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MOS E21: "I am the tea"
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Welcome to Moms Off Script, a podcast for moms who are just trying to figure it out. This week Alan is back with Megg and Mere to share all their thoughts on season 4 of Bridgerton. Hear about their favorite plotlines, top moments, and their Lady Whistledown predictions!
CREDITS: Original content: Megg Abelein & Meredith Finch
Set design, videography: Megg Abelein & Meredith Finch
Music: Matt Beebe
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So now let's speculate because the end of the season, there's a new whistled down paper released, and it is not penalty. The author says, I am a new whistled down. Who do we think it is?
SPEAKER_02Do we each take our pick? Or do we say, because I think the obvious one, and I think they're going to say this is that highest hint is the most likely, right?
SPEAKER_05I haven't seen anything about highest.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05I have a very different opinion.
SPEAKER_02People are just kind of like, oh, it's that's highest synth, like that's the most likely chance, or like the first of it to be. I feel like it's not gonna be the obvious choice. So, like, who do we think it's gonna be besides highest?
SPEAKER_06I didn't even think of highest.
SPEAKER_02You didn't think of high century? No, no, no.
SPEAKER_06I have heard the highest in fancy fan theory. I have heard that. Okay, so what's your guess? Well, I want to hear what yours are because mine are right. No, do you want to hear? Okay, Lady Wesselbone is a very good thing. Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Monsop Script. I'm Matt. I'm Mary, and we are so excited tonight because we have Alan Bad. Hey, what's going on?
SPEAKER_02We're gonna talk about Purgiton.
SPEAKER_03So we're gonna talk about Purgiton again. The actual season that we've now all officially watched, so we can talk about it. Yes, yes, part one and part two. Spoilers alert, if you have not watched, we're going to talk about it for real. All of it.
SPEAKER_02All the nitty-gritty details. That's also good nitty gritty details. Very scandalous details.
SPEAKER_03So, what's going on, Mayor? How was your day? Um, my day was great. It was dominated by the Acatar news that came out today.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_03Did you not hear the ICAR news? Alan, there is a new book coming on October 27th. Wait. And there is that's Avatar 6. Acatar 7 is coming on January 12th.
SPEAKER_04We are getting Acatar 6 in October and Avatar 7 in January. She's busy. Isn't that insane? Isn't that crazy? I know. Did she hint at this at all? Did people know this was coming?
SPEAKER_03No, everyone is shocked.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_03And so yes, and she explained that she's thinking about she didn't say whose POV it is, so we can speculate, but she's thinking about this arc of the story as four parts, and the October release is like part one, the January release is parts two and three, and then there will be a part four.
SPEAKER_02Oh wow, okay.
SPEAKER_03Isn't that crazy?
SPEAKER_02Is it so I know the the fifth book was that one of the sisters, right? Yes. So is is it a continuation of kind of where that one left off? Did we know anything about that?
SPEAKER_03Or is it a timeline perspective? It is a continuation, but it is not necessarily her point of view again. It's probably somebody else.
SPEAKER_02But I wasn't sure if it was like a like a time jump or anything like that.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. But I would assume it is a linear progression of the story.
SPEAKER_02That was awesome.
SPEAKER_03That was the exciting news of the day. Could not function after that for a while. Uh, and I think I might need to do a reread now before after I told to reread. Have you reread it? Yes, I've read it twice. So this would be my second reread of my third experience of books. Would you reread it?
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna be honest, I actually haven't read the fifth book yet. So I haven't read one through four. I'll just read the fifth book, though. I finished that up before the new book's.
SPEAKER_06There you go. Did you not, if I remember this correctly, did you not read the fifth book because you knew there was gonna be more and you didn't want to like end and then have to wait for the next book?
SPEAKER_02So I think I was ready for a new series after the third book. And then when I started reading the fourth book, I was actually reading that in tandem with another series. So I was reading two books at the same time, which I've never done before. But I was just like, was I already kind of had like one foot out the door, and so I like kind of just like took a break from that series.
SPEAKER_03Honestly, the fifth one is so different because it's an SSPOB that it's kind of a good place to break.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And if you pick it up in like September, give yourself two months to read it, it's because it's hefty. It's a hefty book. Then you could go right into whatever's next. Yeah, I'll probably do that. I'm so fitted. So other than the academic news, which was the highlight of my day, how are you both? What was your days like today? I'm good.
SPEAKER_06It was normal, normal day. Pretty busy, went to work, dropped the kids off. What'd you do?
SPEAKER_02Uh just work. Today's my early Friday, so I get tomorrow off, which is cool.
SPEAKER_04When do you get tomorrow?
SPEAKER_02I work at 980 schedule, so I do nine-hour days and then I got the Friday to get off.
SPEAKER_04That's pretty nice.
SPEAKER_02Um, probably need my hair cut because I can't think. Yeah, go to Disney World next week.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh, not actually Disney World, but I'm presenting in uh at a symposium near Disney World.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they have a convention center right there, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you kind of look fresh.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I'm gonna go fresh enough for that because we have our own presentation for work. So Meg, what are you doing tomorrow?
SPEAKER_06Um, I have to get a long run-in tomorrow or Saturday. I have my half marathon coming up in a few weeks. Yeah. So I need to make sure I get those runs in, and I have to get them in before you leave for your business trip. Yeah. What's a long run for you right now? Um, well, so I'm technically in my tape of my block, so I probably need to get in like seven or eight miles over the next day. So split up or continuously? Ideally continuously. Yeah. So we'll see how that goes.
SPEAKER_02It's the New York half, right?
SPEAKER_06I am running the New York City half. That is the yeah, that's something that's coming up. So I will start in Prospect Park, run over the Brooklyn Bridge through Times Square, and finish in Central Park.
SPEAKER_02What's the one that got canceled because of the weather when you oh that was the Manhattan 10K? Yes, that was the Manhattan. Different than the New York half.
SPEAKER_06Correct. Yeah, that was only 6.2. I say only, like it's just a cat. I'll get you ready to all right, my friends.
SPEAKER_03Are we ready to discuss season four of Richardton? Yes. In its entirety. Yes. The whole sweat into it. Yes, let's do it. Let's start with overall impressions. Just give me like, what was your takeaway after wrapping up the eighth episode? How did you walk away feeling?
SPEAKER_06I was very happy at the end of the season, especially like with the wedding being post-credits. It was fun to like watch the credits roll and then like see the wedding. But overall, I think I felt very pleased with the season because the first half I was kind of like, eh, this is pretty predictable. And it just became very like warm. I hadn't read the books, but obviously, like I know the Cinderella story. Right. I also watch a lot of Shonda Rhimes. Yes. So I don't know if it felt predictable for me because I have watched so much Shandeland that there's like a pattern, and it became a very Shonda Rhimes television show for me. Okay. Or if it was predictable because it's a Cinderella story. But overall, I felt like the way they tied it all together and they brought it together was really warm and fun. And I think Yurin and Luke do such a good job with the characters. Their chemistry was so good that it made the show really fun at the end.
SPEAKER_02I was pleasantly surprised by it. I thought that it was better than I thought it was gonna be, but I had pretty low expectations to begin with.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I think we both said in the last episode when we did a proper tradition that Brigandis was kind of low on the list for both of us. So we both had pretty low bars.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So I wasn't like super amazed by it. The first few seasons I felt like tons of tension growing between the two characters, and there was like a really high intensity to the story that I thought really drew me into it. There was tension, there was kind of that back and forth of like, is it gonna happen, is it not? But it just didn't it didn't hit as hard as some of the the like the first few seasons did for me. It didn't have all the drama of the third season with the with with the whole whistled stuff going down. It did well, they didn't crash and burn, they didn't like completely ruin the the season, but it wasn't like they knocked out of the park and like made it amazing. I will say that I thought what pattern uh you're in. You're in. I thought she was amazing as Sophie. Yes. I thought her performance was by far like I mean, it was the best of the season to me. It might have even been one of the best of the series so far for me. I thought she just nailed the role so well. And I loved her as Sophie. I thought she did amazing.
SPEAKER_06One of the other things I felt was the story, not only was it predictable, but he was just such an idiot. There wasn't a moment where he was just not thinking clearly, and he was just one, how did he not know that it was her? Yes. And two, when he at the end of episode four, when he asked her to be his mistress, it was like, You're an idiot. Collected face. Like it was just like everything that he did in Does that happen in the books? Yes. Okay, it's a big plot point. It's a big plot point in the book. Okay, but everything that Benedict did was like, you're fucking more. Like you were just what is happening right now? And that's why I think by the end it felt so warm because he finally came to and like wasn't an idiot. Because I do think he is one of the more relatable siblings. He's not put together improper. He has to like find himself. And I think we all go through that like phase of like finding ourselves and like discovery. So it was cool to see him at the end kind of be like, okay, pull it all together.
SPEAKER_03I felt like overall my enjoyment of the season increased as it went on. In the beginning, I felt like, oh, it's a little campy. It's a little like, oh, you don't know who she is. Like, come on, bro. Like, come on. But the second half, especially like the episodes four through eight, I felt like it really ramped up the drama, not just in Benedict's story, but in a lot of the other stories that we're gonna talk about. And I think that collective tension as a whole made me enjoy it much, much more. I think it went from being kind of like, oh, we're just kind of frolicking at the cottage and we're flirting, to like, there's real stakes here. Like, I actually love you and I want to be with you, and I can't. And how do we make this work? And that I found much more interesting than the first half. So the first half was fine, but I think it improved as around. The bath scene was so yes. We will get there. What I would like to do is go through kind of each plot line and talk about each one because I think they all brought something really powerful to the story. So if you'll indulge me with that, I would love to start with Violet and Marcus. Their storyline was so good. I am the tea that you will be having. I almost fell off the couch for that. Violet, I am the tea. Oh my god. And we talked about in the last episode how we both love Violet. We would love a spin-off for her. I like we bought her story. I feel like she really shined this season and the conversation between her and Benedict towards the end of the season, where she's like, You remind me of me. And I was really kind of a rebel, and like, you know, she didn't want to follow the rules and those stubborn, and you know, how she is wanting to lean into that a little bit more. I loved that arc of her kind of rediscovering her femininity and her sexuality and who she is outside of being the mother, like 10 out of 10.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I think too that like line that she had with Benedict at the end, is where like that relatability gets brought back. Where now not only is Benedict relatable, but Violet, who has also been relatable the whole time, like is tying that piece together. I also loved the T line because I feel like it was so significant to every generation watching. Yes, because it took like I am the T, right? So it took this Gen X slang word, it took this British word that just means T. It took like it took the meaning of tea that has so many different meanings amongst different generations and like pulled it all into the same sentence. Like it literally meant every form of the word tea down to like the tea that's in your cup right now to every slang word that it has used. And that was just like such a clever line. I Shonda nailed that line. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Probably writers on that one.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, for sure. And and Violet delivered.
SPEAKER_03What did you think of Violet's arc? I know she's a character that you we've talked about before.
SPEAKER_02I kind of agree with you guys. But it was cool to see more than just one dimension of her, to see her as an independent person who is seeking romance, kind of seeking a redemption or seeking love after death, right? Is that the right term for it?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, love after loss.
SPEAKER_02Love after loss. Cool to see her kind of go through that and experience with that's like see her hesitation through it. And I think it was cool to see her. She's such a motherly figure in the whole story, the whole arc like that's just her role. In this new kind of phase and this new shift that she's going through, still her her mind was still on her kids. How's it gonna affect her family? How's it gonna affect her kids? And that's like a lot of the big uh riff that kind of happens with her. She doesn't want her kids fighting down, she doesn't want to interrupt their seasons and have it be a thing. And it was cool, cool just to see her be able to do something different, but still at her core be the mother and the the caregiver to her kids that she always always been.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and I think that point brings up like that first initial part of the breakup where she was really thinking about her kids, and it kind of got her to a place where she was not necessarily embarrassed, but she was like, What are my kids gonna think? I need to work through this to protect my kids before I move any further with this relationship.
SPEAKER_03I had such mixed feelings about the breakup at the end because I was loving their relationship. I loved how Violet was exploring this facet of herself that she hadn't been with in a while. And I loved that it was maybe going to evolve into something more formalized that she didn't need to hide anymore. And I loved that Violet was saying, you know, I wanted to rediscover myself and who I am and who I was, you know, back in the day and like to get back into that a little bit. And I'm not sure I'm ready to settle in with you that might preclude me from being able to do that exploration. But at the same time, I don't necessarily love the thought of like this person, you can't be with a person and enjoy yourself. Like, I was very conflicted about it. I was like, why can't you just be with him and do that? You know, like I don't know why your relationship with him precludes you from exploring who you are as a person. And I think the reason it's that weird with me, and maybe this is unfair to say, because I'm not in Violet's shoes and you know, I'm speculating here, but she also has been on her own for a very long time. I was in her family, my children's been very preoccupied with that, but she's been on her own for so long that I was looking forward to her finding a new romantic outlet for herself. So I had very mixed feelings about it.
SPEAKER_06I think that in that space, like I totally understand why you're saying that she's been on her own this whole time, but I almost disagree where she's been on her own this whole time, but she has spent so much time devoting her time to her children with that scene that we were just talking about in that space where she breaks up with him the first time or they go their separate ways the first time because she's embarrassed or doesn't know how to act. She's now giving herself permission to explore that piece of her. And she shouldn't necessarily settle down with the first person that she decides to be with after her husband. After being alone for all this time, I think within loneliness, you explore so many different facets of everyone else's life that you have to give yourself permission to explore your own life. And I don't think that we've seen her do that yet. So I'm excited to see where she goes with it. I liked the breakup. I thought it was really it it came full circle for me in the space that, yep, she got to do this thing, she let herself go, and then she questioned it and ultimately came to this decision that she she could have that if she wanted it. But maybe that's not what she wanted.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I wonder if she'll come back to him at some point once she's done her self-exploration. Because it's not like she did anything wrong or like there were any red flags about him. Like maybe she'll go on this exploration and circle back. I don't know. What did you think about the breakup?
SPEAKER_02Well, I guess just one of the points that you made, like for what the show is at the at its core, is it's a period romance. So like the period that they're in is a time where if a woman if a woman decided to be with a man, she no longer was really free to find herself in her residence. I think Shandom's kind of like really respecting the Julia Quinn universe that she set up because in that universe, if she decides to marry Marcus, now she is his wife. She's not her own person really anymore because of the period that they were in. It makes total sense for the you know, our time, what we're in now, like we that's how we would we would visualize it. But to respect the period that it's set in, it's very much like the women become the wife of the husband, and they're that's that's their role and that's what they do. And it kind of made a lot of sense that she would be afraid of that in that kind of setting.
SPEAKER_03So you've convinced me. I feel much more comfortable with it now. That was the argument that I needed. It was like it's not like present day where you can be with someone in a total center relationship today. And it's like, no, you're literally owned by your husband once you've married them. Like you cannot be your own person and be married.
SPEAKER_02How do you feel about the Francesca arc? Because I have feelings about this, and I really want to know what you think about it.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. On the whole, I was completely taken by the whole story. I thought her acting was incredible. I loved the portrayal of someone who in grief turns to structure and needs to do something, and like I can't process, like, I need to just like worry about the biscuits. Like, I just thought that was such so true to who she was and her upbringing. I was like, that made so much sense to me for how her character would behave. And then the final breakdown between her and her mother when she finally cracks and says, You have eight of him, and I nothing. Like, I'm gonna cry thinking about it right now. I I almost started crying the second you said it. Stop. Like, I I had tears pouring down my face watching that scene and the funeral where she's just standing there taking it, and then they're like, Do you want another moment? And then she's like, No, I have to go, I have things to do. And my heart was just breaking for her. One of the best scenes I've seen in in a very long time between her and her mother there. What did you think?
SPEAKER_02I was very surprised. I wasn't expecting her to be really in this at all. I thought they were gonna set up Aloise or like another show. They're really setting up Francesca a lot. Yeah. I thought it was amazing. I thought Francesca did an amazing job. I thought the scenes with her were very, very powerful, very strong. I love her character and I love Lord Kilbarton too because they are like that kind of quiet and reserved type.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so like you kind of don't really know what they're thinking and what they're feeling, and like they're trying to kind of kind of keep it in and not really show, and then when they do break, it's very powerful.
SPEAKER_07Yes.
SPEAKER_02Um, I love that about them. One thing I I loved about the books was that you know, she didn't um she miscarried in the books.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_02And I thought that it was interesting that they left that out.
SPEAKER_03Did they though? Because you know, she thought she was pregnant, and I wasn't sure if it was she was pregnant and she miscarried or she just never was and she was wrong.
SPEAKER_06I think that with that, because you mentioned that to me after that that she miscarried in the book. I think it was left up to the audience's interpretation of what happened. So I think if you read the books, you might either know that she had a miscarriage or you might be disappointed. I think if you didn't read the books, it's up to you to decide did she have a hysterical pregnancy or did she have a miscarriage? Or was she lying? So there's like one of three options for the viewer who didn't read the books. Right.
SPEAKER_04We also have to talk about the pinnacle.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I saw a TikTok or a tweet or something that was like, we all know Sophie knows about the pinnacle.
SPEAKER_03That arc was so funny to me. And her conversation with Penelope, where she's like admitting that she doesn't know what it is and doesn't think she's ever had one. And Penelope's like, what? Like the horror on her face as she's realizing like she doesn't know what it is. No spoilers, but like Francesca's arc, I think, is going to be that much more satisfying knowing that like she wasn't in a super fulfilled sexual relationship, like knowing where it goes.
SPEAKER_06Oh girl, she won't get it. Yeah, her skin is gonna be spicy. That is so funny. That the pinnacle thing was just cracked me up. And her talking to her mother about it.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, that was so funny. Yeah, so everything about Francesca's storyline from the humor in the early part with Pinnacle and her relationship with John, and oh, they were trying to figure that out. I think she was trying to be honest with him, and he was calling her out a little bit to be like, you don't have to pretend. Like they were trying to figure it out, and they had that last moment. They were at one of the parties where they kind of stepped out and they were looking up at the moon together. And obviously, having read the books, I know what's coming until they're setting up his death. And I just felt like this is kind of their last moment together, like this, and then to have her lose him and everything that came with that. We also have to talk about Michaela, right? Because she is John's cousin, she comes into the picture. There's some initial tension between her and Francesca. We don't really know why or what that's about, but they come to me extremely close, and then she just at the end of the season. What were your reactions to her as a character? I liked Michaela's character.
SPEAKER_06I thought that she broke the tension necessarily. Like, so on screen, Francesca and John were introverts amongst extroverts. As the viewer, you don't really know if that is because they're trying to figure out their love or like whatever, or if they're just comfortable with that. And you see a little bit of tension there because of it. Michaela comes in and she's fun, and her and John have fun, and then you know, Francesca decides to like figure that piece out, or like kind of go all in on that and sees the fun and excitement. So I think overall her character was fun and she brought a lot of light to that relationship and allowed John and Francesca to explore their relationship a little bit more. Unfortunately, like it was cut short, and I think they were just having this breakthrough. And I think Michaela's presence allowed them to have a little bit of a breakthrough in their marriage.
SPEAKER_02How did you feel about this death?
SPEAKER_06Once again, Shondeland predictability, unfortunately. I think Francesca was kind of always a lost soul. Right. So like we see her in season one. We don't we barely see her. She's like off overseas. But I think his death, while it didn't come as a surprise while watching the show, I liked that they put it in this season because I think it added a little bit of color. It added a little bit of a distraction from the Sophie and Benedict like flatline story. It ultimately sets Francesca up for this life of like learning about herself. Where I think, like I mentioned before, they were her and John were very into each other and very happy. But I don't know that she had explored more of herself. And I think that his death is going to ultimately bring these silver linings for her and allow her to explore who she is and figure that all out. Yeah. What about the scene with Eloise and Francesca where they're doing the examination? Eloise is holding her hand and you just see Eloise empathizing and feeling every moment of that.
SPEAKER_03Eloise's journey this season has been really interesting. And I don't know what she's going to do next. Do you know what she's going to do next? No, they're not. We don't know. It feels like Francesca is the natural place they're going. And Eloise needs a little bit more setup, but I can see the seeds of where they're going with her. And I love how they're taking this person who's like, oh well, I'm Spencer and marriage is marriage is stupid. And helping her go on a journey of realization of maybe it's not just like I'm too cool for this. Maybe there are some benefits to a loving, happy partnership. And her experience watching Francesca lose John, watching Hyacinth and her excitement for her debut and what that looks like, and then helping her through Hyacinth, you know, we'll talk about Hyacinth in a second, but helping her through her feelings, her reunion with Cressida and seeing how Cressida has changed in marriage and with a good partner. All of that I think is culminating into a place of her feeling a little left out, honestly, of this experience. And I don't think she was expecting to feel that way. I think it's easy to say, I'm too cool for this whole marriage mark when your other friends are also not married. And then when they all settle into this way, I think she is feeling left behind and is not sure how to process that. I don't think she's fully processed it yet. That's why I feel like she needs another season to like finish that arc to arrive at a place where she maybe is open to that fully. But I love the seeds of where we're going.
SPEAKER_06I agree with that too that she needs another season to like figure that out because now she's also lost Benedict. Benedict was like essentially her partner in crime. And I don't think she loses him, but he's her partner in crime. He's the other spinster, right? Like he is just doing his own thing, isn't gonna settle down, he doesn't have to settle down. I think over the next season, if they don't do Eloise's season next, we're gonna get to see her watch Benedict be in love and get excited about like, oh, maybe this is for me. I mean, I don't know, I haven't read the books. I don't know what is to comfort her, but I think Benedict is gonna play a big role in kind of her development there.
SPEAKER_02I think the big thing with Eloise for me is that I feel like with her story to kind of kick off, it needs to have like a trigger, like a kind of a big thing happen that like sets her off to like realize that she wants to find somebody she loves. And so like they kind of already missed the boat with that and with that in the Penelope, right? Yeah. Like it's not like she lost, you know, Penelope's married off and she lost her best friend, and that's like her trigger to get out I can find somebody and like kind of do something impulsive. So like I'm kind of curious like how they're gonna try to set it up in a future season, or maybe they're gonna go a different direction.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I wonder if like it's gonna be like, you know, Francesca's gonna find somebody and choose gonna lose Francesca, and that's gonna be like her like I have to make an impulsive decision and do something about this and like kind of set off her story, or if it's gonna be something else, but like I kind of feel like I'm missing that right now. I'm like not sure where they're gonna go with that and how they're gonna step it up. So I'm curious to see like what's gonna push Eloise over the edge to realize that she like wants to just kind of do something and find somebody.
SPEAKER_06So I know you've said this, you guys said this on the last episode about how Hyacinth and Gregory are getting older, and it might be interesting to see like how they play this out. And I have seen talks about Hyacinth and Gregory getting recast or like what that's gonna look like. But I'm wondering, do either one of you think that they would combine a season? Do you think that maybe they're setting up Eloise and Francesca to both have?
SPEAKER_03I don't think so. That both those stories are so good that if you try and pack them both in a season, I feel like they'll both suffer. I think they both deserve their moment. And I would be sad if they pulled it together.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. I I think so too. It might feel like Francesca's been kind of like having her story develop, but I feel like where she is now is like pretty early on in her story. 10% of where we're so there's so much more for like her to really like to happen.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, absolutely. So much more for her, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Wow, yeah, like yeah, it doesn't feel that way, but like it it does feel like we've just started her story, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Wow, yeah. Back to Eloise, though. I think just from a business standpoint, Claudia Jesse is so good. I love her. She is phenomenal. That from a business standpoint, keeping her like fresh and like they need her.
SPEAKER_03Can we talk about the one where Benedict is doing his like tour of the town looking around for his silver lady and he keeps throwing her at men to like cut the stuff? And the guy is like kissing her hand. She literally like gags as he's kissing her hand.
SPEAKER_06I was like, girl, she is all of us. So funny. I just love her.
SPEAKER_03We have some delicious treats that have been looking at us for this whole episode. We have scones.
SPEAKER_06I made scones for Bridgerton. You need to scones, right? Bridgerton scones. They are the Betty Crocker Bridgerton scones. So this is gonna need to make it to the socials. Dig in. Because look how gorgeous.
SPEAKER_04Dig in.
SPEAKER_06I mean, they're delightful. They're boxed scones, so I didn't like fold in all the butter and do all the fancy things.
SPEAKER_03But these are lovely. So let's talk about Mrs. Mumbridge, the Mundridge family, but particularly Mrs. Mumbridge. Yes, there's her lady. Mrs. Mundridge. Okay. Yeah. She is the new lady in waiting for the queen. What is a lady in waiting? They're just like the queen's baddies. They help her out with everything.
SPEAKER_06Like, do they wait to speak? Is that yeah, what are they waiting for?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I don't know what the term lady in waiting comes from. No. They're like on call for the queen. I think it's like the whatever the queen needs, they are waiting at her beckon call. That's why I'm determining it. I could be completely wrong. Mrs. Mondrich is brought into the Queen's inner circle by Lady Danbury because Lady Danbury is trying to move on with her life, essentially, go on another adventure. And she recognizes that her place with the queen is important. She needs to bring someone new into the fold. And she identifies Mrs. Mondrich as kind of that person she thinks can be, can fill her shoes essentially for the queen. And she struggles with that role and what to tell the queen, what she knows, what to facilitate, when to push, when not to push. And I really enjoyed her dynamic this season. I thought she was a really interesting character who's not in the books. I think that's why I liked her so much because it's not something from the book, so it wasn't unknown to me. What did you think about her?
SPEAKER_02I mean I love Lady Danbury, so I'm not a little sad at the thought of losing her to like go on her expedition and stuff. I'm sure she'll come back at some point, but I'm not sure if they're right there off because of the character or the act that plays Lady Danbury or if it's just part of the arc that they want to go on. But I do think she's cool. I love her husband for some reason. I think he's just like a really cool.
SPEAKER_07The little punching thing again.
SPEAKER_02The little punching thing I do. Yeah, the thing is super horrible. I kind of like just the dynamic of them, how they're like they work part of the town and they kind of got it, they got into it, so they kind of give it an interesting perspective on like outsiders looking at that, kind of now are like the insiders.
SPEAKER_03What did you make of her standing up to the queen at the end there when she kind of made her monologue to her about why she should be giving Sophia and Benedict a chance?
SPEAKER_06I felt like she didn't have anything to lose in that moment. I feel like Lady Danbury gave her this opportunity. But to Alan's point, like they weren't part of the tongue. Like they kind of made their way in. And I thought it was a really beautiful sentiment for like young women being able to be empowered to speak and say what they believe. And I think she was setting up another young woman for having the life that she deserves. So I think it just came back to like womanhood and allowing women to feel powerful and empowered in in their place, whether it's their place to speak or not.
SPEAKER_03That's what I loved about it is she had the audacity in a good way to be like, this is the right thing to do, and I will speak truth to power and tell this queen, who can be difficult, what she needs to hear in this moment. And I thought that was really cool.
SPEAKER_06Going back to Lady Danbury bringing Mrs. Mondage in as a lady in waiting because she wants to go off on this adventure. What's the dynamic there? How do we feel about the Queen and Lady Danbury?
SPEAKER_03I said in our last episode that I wanted more female relationships where there wasn't so much like tension between them. Like I didn't love how Penelope and Eloise's story had been adapted, that they were mad at each other. Like that's not how it was in the books. And this is exactly what I wanted, right? This dynamic of two women who love each other deeply, who care for each other and want best for each other. But there's also this power dynamic in play and what does that look like? And Lady Dan Burry wants to live her life, and the queen wants her to live her life too. But this is her best friend, and how does she let her go? And when is she challenging to her as a friend versus when is she challenging her as her queen? I loved the dynamic between the two of them. And the moment at the end where she doesn't even really say it, but she lets her go. And the emotion in that I was already a hot mess by that point. So I'm getting tears streaming down my face. I thought it was excellent.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I mean, I felt the same way at that scene at the end. And I loved like the push-pull of the relationship. And they they were, they just they're they love each other, and that's kind of what it came down to.
SPEAKER_02Part of like what I really like about the whole queen story is how they're really showing like her vulnerability and kind of showing how there's like a soft side to her where she's already kind of feeling that you know her husband's close to being God and she's losing him, and now she's losing her best friend, and like she's um trying to use like her authority to like keep her to stay. And I thought those parts were always like so funny where she's like, I'm your queen, I command you to stay up, you can't leave, type of thing. Yeah, and you can really feel like the pain and in when she's saying that stuff where like she's like, I don't want to say this, but like I don't know what else to do. I can't lose you, I can't lose my husband and lose my best friend at the exact same time. I thought that was just a really interesting side of the queen that they're kind of showing because she is supposed to be this you know, all authority, like perfect figure kind of thing, but they're really showing that she has flaws and that she is struggling. And I thought that was a cool um dynamic that they they show up with her.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you brought this up earlier, like not really knowing where they're gonna go with Lady Danbury and the Queen based on like Mrs. Modric being brought in. Do you want to hear the have you heard the fan theory? Yeah. That the Queen is out and Lady Danbury's gonna come, like the Queen's gonna die. Lady Danbury's part in the next season is huge. Where does this come from? I don't know. I don't think we'll come up with these things.
SPEAKER_02That is a very shot on the twist, though.
SPEAKER_06So, but you know where the fan theory comes from is if you've watched Queen Charlotte, which I have not. I have. I'm the only one of the three of us I think that's so. I think it the time the way the timelines match up between the shows, there's like something in Queen Charlotte that in 1918, which is when Sophie and Benedict season happens, something happens to the Queen, and the Queen dies in 1980, or 1880. 1818. All the times that I just said 1918, I've been in 1818. Okay, so in 1818, in Queen Charlotte's story, she dies. Okay. Well, no, no, because here's the here's the part is like she's not in the books, right? So maybe the writing of Queen Charlotte just got off track with the timeline. So now the fan theory is like they're just gonna write her out. She's gonna die.
SPEAKER_03I would be she does have a broken heart. I would be very shocked if we lost Queen Charlotte.
SPEAKER_06What's the name, King Henry? Maybe the king dies and Lady Danbury leaves, and she's just oh, that'd be so sad. Like, like the notebook. She just let me bring it back.
SPEAKER_03Let me let me bring us back to a happier note before we will walk away from Queen Charlotte. I loved the dress position from the beginning of the season where Lady Danbury is very nervously asking her to leave, and she just goes, No, to the end, where they're both crapping up laughing at the ball, just like cattling between the two of them and that dynamic, like they're back to how they're supposed to be, and everything all is right, and I just love that kind of out from beginning to do. The ball capling scene was just so funny. It was really, really good. So now we need to talk about Araminta and Posey and Rosamond.
SPEAKER_02Yes, can we pause real quick? Did you know Arametta was did you know that before this is the show?
SPEAKER_04No, I didn't.
SPEAKER_02I literally didn't know until the last episode, and I was like, you know that's Cho Cheng from Harry Potter. I'm like, no, it's not. Yes, it is. That's not Cho Cheng, and I had to look it up because I was like, it it's it totally is. I couldn't like picture her as Cho Chang, but that was she was transformed to me.
SPEAKER_03Like, I mean to me completely transformed, and not from a like, oh, she looks so much older now. Like, nope, Cho is a like kind of innocent, sweet, sweet character in Ermin J.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I was like, I couldn't place the two personalities together. It was wow.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so she was phenomenal as Airman Judd. Oh, absolutely. Nailed the evil stepmother trope to the T from the moment she walked onto stage. I was just like, oh, she's just nasty. She hasn't like she got this look like she has a stink on her nose all the time. She has her preference for Roseman. You just want to kick her in the butt because she's the worst. And her whole obsession was these stupid shoe flips that weren't even real. And when she gets Sophie at the end, and you're just like, no, no, no, no, like you can't win. Oh, she she was a character I loved to hate. Yeah. And Posey was the character you loved to love. And at the fall when she has her little dance together with whoever that was, I was just like, yeah. Posey was the actual diamond of the season.
SPEAKER_06That's she honestly.
SPEAKER_03And her and Eloise, I was like, this is a connection I did not know I needed when they had that little chat, and Eloise just, you know, gave her a little bit of confidence to go over and chat to that guy. It was a 30-second interaction, but I was like, oh my god, Eloise and Posey was the friendship I needed in my life.
SPEAKER_06Oh my gosh. And when Sophie walked into the tea room and Posey caught her eye, Hallelujah. So funny.
SPEAKER_03It was so good. We also need to shout out Urine and the actress we plays Posey's TikToks because they are they're so good. Spectacular.
SPEAKER_06They're hilarious. We're gonna do our best to emulate some of them. They're prime Gen Z. Do you guys remember when she bonked her head out of the glass? And she just like played it.
SPEAKER_03So so well. Oh my god, they were so great. And then Roseman deserves a mention as well. She was, you know, the classic evil stepsister. She was so insufferable. But she played that part to a T. And Posey was so lovable because Roseman was so miserable. Yeah, like the juxtaposition between the two of them was excellent.
SPEAKER_06And then when she announced the dowries at the end, when she said how much her dowry was versus Posey's, like that was a moment of like realization for her of like, yeah, I know I've always been the favorite, but like, holy shit, like this is not okay. We've seen the Cinderella story. We know how the Cinderella story ends, and now we've seen that on screen with Bridgerton, but Aramenta has now moved in next to the Bridgertons. I think we're gonna see more of Benedict and Sophie in the next season. So interested to see if they keep Posey and Rosamond along and bring in that like sister bond that they never got to have. Because what is the story of Cinderella beyond the ending?
SPEAKER_03I would love it. I'd be surprised if they kept the three of them around and then they made cameos next season. I feel like it wrapped up and you're kind of meant to just use your imagination for where it goes. But I would like it personally, but I don't think it's gonna happen. You're the Shonda expert. What do you think? I think I might come back.
SPEAKER_06Okay, I think posing might come back.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I kind of wonder too, like, I feel like we've speculated on this before, but there's always like um at the end of the books, there's like the epilogue where it's like set in the future. I'm like, I'm so curious if like probably not gonna happen because you know the series is taking forever to actually film and put all the seasons out, but like I would love like a season after the last child where it's like the epilogue. Yeah, all the epilogues, and just like here, you know, here's everyone like 20 years from now or 10 years from now, and like see kind of wherever it's gone. I don't know if they can make a whole season out of it that would be a little more.
SPEAKER_06Like a reunion episode.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like a reunion episode, exactly.
SPEAKER_06I think that would be hard because I think one of the things that you talked about all season, like I think at least once an episode.
SPEAKER_02Where is Daphne? Francesc Francesca's husband died, and she was not at the funeral. That's so funny. Okay, why was she not there?
SPEAKER_06I mean, Anthony wasn't at the funeral either.
SPEAKER_02I'm just gonna say, But at least he made it into the the the scene.
SPEAKER_06He was mentioned as like he wishes he could be there. Yeah, that's fair. I love what they did with Anthony how the first three seasons he had like his bushy hair, his mud jobs, and this season they just gave us John the Boot. John the boots here. Yeah, I'll get what you want. Okay. Here he is, his wife and his adorable baby.
SPEAKER_01We're back to filming what could die. Yeah, truly, truly.
SPEAKER_06He's on Broadway now, right? Him and Ariana Grande are reviving a show. I don't know if it's opened yet, but that's what they're doing. Yeah, so we're going here. Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER_03So let's come to the stars of the show. Sophie had his outfits. I know we didn't want to talk about President, but I was happy to see her come back. I was surprised that was not in the book, so I was surprised to see her come back as Lady Penguin. But I did like write Halloween's little book, Reconciliation.
SPEAKER_06I just every time she came on screen, I couldn't help but think of the Hunger Games. We know. Wait, did we did you figure that out? She was not in the Hunger Games, but she should be cast as Effie Trinkett's like younger self in the next movie.
SPEAKER_02Oh, is that like the girl who like um they called speech out in your face?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yes, right, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_02I see what you see now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So yes, Creston's outfits award the star of the show, but what I was actually referring to was Benedict and Sophie. What did we think about their chemistry, about their storyline, about their acting?
SPEAKER_06First of all, the acting I felt was great. In the first half of the season, they weren't given a good enough storyline for the level of their acting. Oh, completely great. Right. I think that the second half, and even in the stairwell scene, I think the acting came through there, and that was like the first glimpse of what the two of them could do on camera, like together, and the chemistry and the acting that they could do. And then the second drop was phenomenal. I thought that they the acting was great, the chemistry was great. They really pulled the story together. I love when we we have these tropes, but they kind of take them in different directions. And where is it gonna go? You know the underlying story, you know the happy ending, but how are we gonna get there? They did a really good job, like kind of twisting it a little bit. I liked the, you know, when she kind of snuck in and found her will and how Posey got her the information. I was pleased with it. I was definitely more excited about the second half than the first half with um that their storyline.
SPEAKER_02I thought the acting was great. I thought the story was, you know, I kind of said earlier, like I thought it was just okay. One thing I did really like, and I kind of like this about the book too, was that you know, it starts off as a Cinderella story with the glove and everything, but like about halfway into it, you kind of realize like it's really not about that anymore. So, like the lady in silver that Benedict is chasing sort of becomes like something sort of in the background, and it's not really like you know, Cinderella is all about like, all right, is he gonna find Cinderella and last separate and finding the girl that fits it and stuff? And it becomes less about like finding this girl that fits the mold of his mind, and more just about like, I love this woman in society and says I can't be with her, and I want to be with her, and how do I work through this turmoil and come to the realization that like even if it's gonna cost me, the love at the end of the day is worth it. And I like the departure in in the in the season and in the book that they kind of took from the traditional story. So the real story is very well known, really well done, but like you have to put a spin on it and you have to make it something more than just the story of they had this one moment together and it sparks flew and everything was magical to like, okay, this is real life, and like that's not how it's gonna work because that's a fairy tale.
SPEAKER_06I like that a lot. I think when we talked about Elvis earlier about needing that like that fire moment spark that sparked for Benedict was the lady in silver, and he didn't need to find her. That moment allowed him to find himself and say, like, oh, this is something that I really want. And oh shoot, I met this other woman and she's incredible and I love her. Sophie never had to be the lady in silver. I mean, obviously at the end, there was that little piece of the storyline that created a riff there. But whether that riff was there or not, if he had never discovered it, he discovered that he wanted to be in love with this woman. And he was.
SPEAKER_03I completely agree with your thoughts about how the first half of the season, they weren't really stretched. It was kind of cute, they were flirting. I did love a scene where he came out of the river with his pants kind of like on the side there, got a nice little V action going on. Like, I oh we also have to talk about the bath gem scene, right? Because in the second half of the season, wait, wait, actually, I'm getting out of myself because the stairwell scene, I agree with you completely. Phenomenal. Like that was how the first half part of the season ended. And I was like, Where has that been? Yeah the whole time. Like that was what I need. Not from a sexuality standpoint, but from a chemistry standpoint. Like on this, oh here we freaking go. And then cut to black, and now good.
SPEAKER_06Right. And like Daphne's season, that catchy was. Right there at the beginning, you see Anthony and Kate like having that push full of attention, like it was all up front in all the other seasons. It took Colin and Penelope, it was pretty much right there for them to find. Yes. And yeah, it took a while. It took four episodes.
SPEAKER_03Yes. But when we got there, we got there. So that stereo scene when he put his fingers over his mouth. Oh my god. And then I'm just forget about that. I'm still thinking about that. And then we have the bathtub scene where she sneaks into his room. She's a guest in Bridger's house. She sneaks into his room. They have that whole moment together. And she slips her hand behind her back. I'm done. I'm done. I can't even. I can't even, right? So, like all of that was steamy to a hundred, like to the nth degree. But also, it felt like a little reprieve because everything around them was not working out, right? Like Sophie's in trouble. Aaron Mentor's coming after her. Everyone says they shouldn't be together. Nothing is coming together properly. And she stays into his room, and for that one little night, they just had this little bubble of like, we're just gonna pretend everything is fine. And I'm so glad they got that moment, right? Because it wasn't a season for them where they had that again and again and again. There weren't opportunities like that. There were so many obstacles in their way of just being together. Yeah. Having that one moment in the season where it was like they just got to be together and it was everything we ever wanted. Thank you. So the last storyline we have not yet touched on is Penelope Richardson and Lady Whistledown. And we have to speculate about who our new whistledown is, but before we get there, talking about Penelope, her relationship with the Queen, her desire to retire from her whistledown and move on from that. What do we make of this?
SPEAKER_06I think we've really talked about how the Queen is about to lose her husband. She's now about to lose Lady Danbury. We see the Queen having a lot of losses. And she's gonna lose Whistledown too, right? So we see kind of see this recurring theme with the Queen of like this is a moment of her life where she's kind of continuing to lose pieces of it. And that's really sad. And I think that plays into the whole having a hard time letting Danbury go. It ultimately plays into why she realizes she can let Lady Danbury go. But I think for Penelope, we see that scene where she's in the mirror, and you just see this young kid that she's no longer that kid, right? She's no longer that person. And I think what you see in that scene, or at least what I took from that scene, was really like she doesn't even recognize that girl anymore. She's grown up so much, and what she needed out of Whistledown, she's gone. Whether she had to come to that realization by people flooding her drawing room to like ask her to be in Whistledown, or if she just came to that realization one day where she woke up and she was like, I don't even, I don't even recognize that little girl in the mirror anymore. Like I've grown up so much, I don't need this.
SPEAKER_03I didn't take it so much as she didn't recognize her, although I think that's a valid interpretation. I take it more as like, you would be so proud of yourself if you could see where I am now, because that version of Penelope needed was that was all she had was this one way where she felt power. Yes. And she doesn't need it anymore. She has an amazing husband, a loving family, a child. She's fulfilled and happy. She has happy relationships with Eloise and others, and she doesn't need whistled down in the same way. And I felt like when she was looking in the mirror and looking at her past self, she was like, You would be so happy if you knew where you were gonna be. And I can set this thing down now because I don't need it. It's not the only thing I have anymore.
SPEAKER_06You know what's so funny about both of our interpretations of that scene is we took through like what she saw in the mirror so differently, but we both got to that same place. She doesn't, she doesn't need whistled. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02I think one of the things I really liked about Phelps in the previous seasons was that she was always kind of the wallflower type and she was always very insecure. And she even says at one point, too, but like essentially she was able to be whistled because she wasn't visible. You know, she just nobody really paid attention to her, nobody really noticed her. And it was like really sad, like that that was the person that she was. And to see her now in the season where like she's she's not that anymore. She's she's figured out a way to grow and figured out a way to be herself and be confident and to have this role in society and this role as a wife and as a mother, and um really take that on. And like you guys said, like she doesn't need whistled anymore because she's not this invisible person, she doesn't have that insecurity, like she's really found who she is and the person she wants to be. And like now she can kind of just get rid of whistledown, leave it in the past, and be this new I don't like kind of what where her spin out was was like, you know, she can go and write a new story, write new books, and kind of like present this new side of herself in a in a way that doesn't have to be private and doesn't have to be a secret at all.
SPEAKER_06I loved also that this is another recurring theme of this season is this strong, empowered woman where she finally was just like, I'm not doing it anymore. Like you can tell me that you want me to do it, but I'm I'm not gonna do it. So figure it out. And I think that again, recurring theme we see with Mrs. Moderk, we see it with Lady Danbury, we see it now with Penelope being able to use their voice and stand up for themselves, really.
SPEAKER_03We have to talk about Penelope's pirate outfit and Colin's outfit of the game. Best costumes of the masculine. Oh my god, they look so good. Those promo photos came out before the season came out with like everyone's outfits. I was like, girl looks incredible.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god. I didn't realize when the promos came out that it was a masquerade, and I was like, why did they do that to Eloise's hair? Okay. I thought that the whole season she was gonna be like that. I was like, oh goodness, gracious.
SPEAKER_03So now let's speculate because the end of the season, there's a new whistled down paper released, and it is not Penelope. The author says, I am a new whistled down. Who do we think it is? Do we each take our pick?
SPEAKER_02Or do we say, because I think the obvious one, and I think Darren has said this, is that high synth is the most likely, right?
SPEAKER_05I haven't seen anything about High S.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05I have a very different opinion.
SPEAKER_02People are saying, like, oh, it's that's High Synth, like that's the most likely chance, or like the first of it to be. I feel like it's not gonna be the obvious choice. So, like, who do we think it's gonna be besides Hyacinth?
SPEAKER_06I didn't even think of Hyacinth.
SPEAKER_02You didn't think of Hyacinth?
SPEAKER_06No, I I have heard the Hyacinth fancy fan theory. I have heard that. Okay, so what's your guess? Well, I don't think what yours are because mine are right. So I'm here, okay. So Lady Whistledown is actually Cressida now. Plactois.
SPEAKER_03I like it, right? I don't hate it, right? Right, she wrote a fake whistledown, and she poses whistledown. Now, I don't think this is a spoiler, that there's no rebirth of whistledown in the books. So the fact that Cressida is not a character in the books, and this doesn't happen in the books, lends some credence, I think, to your theory that yeah.
SPEAKER_06My other stretch that if we were gonna write it on paper and fold it up today and see next season who it is going to be Posey. I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER_01Listen to your theory of uh them becoming a more recurring cast or the that family recurring as a I love Posey to death, but I don't think there was enough evidence that her character has the literary eloquence.
SPEAKER_02I don't think she's smart enough as a person.
SPEAKER_04Maybe it's Rosmond.
SPEAKER_01Also not the way to be for it.
SPEAKER_06Of the two of them. Okay, it's a it's a doing.
SPEAKER_02So as soon as it happened, I or I was like, oh, it's hyacinth. Because like all signs to me pointed to hyacinth. Just the uh like the way she was speaking. There was a couple things that happened in the season that I was like, it kind of held in it to be in Hyacinth. But I always thought it was like too obvious. So then I started thinking, I was like, okay, so it's if Hyacinth is the obvious one, but the twist would be to pick somebody who's not her. So then I was like, okay, then who else would it be? So I eventually landed on Sophie. I think Sophie is late whistle though.
SPEAKER_03It's not a bad guest because she does have access to she's the maid.
SPEAKER_02I think that was kind of kind of the reason like people were saying hyacinth was because like Sophie kind of showed her like when they brought her to the um the ball and stuff and they hit her as a maid, like Hyacinth kind of figured out like, oh, I can kind of hide in hide in disguise. Okay. Um so like Sophie would kind of make sense in that sense because she has that like underground network of like maids and servants that she knows that she could get like the you know the tea from and stuff. And then I also kind of feel like Sophie is this outcast or peripheral for for the from the the main ton. So like she kind of like has to make a name for herself a little bit. So I could kind of see it being sort of like a thing to play into her character, but all right.
SPEAKER_03You want my prediction?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, violent.
SPEAKER_03That's pretty good. I could be so rebel. She wants to stir the pot a little, she's rediscovering a part of her past. We know she's very eloquent and well spoken. She's very well connected. As a single woman, she's not, you know, I won't say she has the invisibility factor because it's violent bridge of ten, but you know, it's not she's not attached to a man, she can mingle in a party.
SPEAKER_02And like no one would suspect her anybody, which is her invisibility cloak. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03She has her connection with um who's her house manager there.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I can't think for me, but yes, but they're very close and she could know the goings-on. I think my official guess, again, if I had to write it on paper and log it away in a time capsule, I'm gonna guess Violet Bridgetan.
SPEAKER_02That's a good one. I'd not consider that one that's good.
SPEAKER_03In our last Bridget episode, Alan and I lightning round did lightning rounded each other. Yeah. He surprised you. Yes, it was phenomenal. Uh, but you never got to do a bridget and lightning round. I have not been a bridge and lightning round. We're gonna rectify that rod that you have been done. Throw it at me.
SPEAKER_06Throw it at me.
SPEAKER_03All right, here we go.
SPEAKER_06Favorite platline this season.
SPEAKER_03John and Francesca. If you wanted to marry a Bridgetan boy, which one would it be? Really? Favorite Bridget and kid. Favorite Bridgetan. Oh. Sophie, what would your palm palette color be? Purple. Which Taylor Swift song would be the crescendo of your love story? Long live.
SPEAKER_04Favorite?
SPEAKER_03It's good. Favorite Cinderella adaptation. Oh, ever after. And favorite Chandaland series.
SPEAKER_06Um, Grace Anatomy.
SPEAKER_03Although Grace Anatomy?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Or Scandal's pretty good, but we're currently watching Grace Anatomy, and that's probably why the like predictability of Shawna's feels so raw. Yeah. Because we are like deep, deep in it. We've been watching Grace Anatomy for like over a year.
SPEAKER_04Well, I never watched Grace Anatomy. Yeah. Not a big medical drama person. The problem is once you start, you can't stop, and it's 22 seasons long. And what is your favorite Cinderella adaptation?
SPEAKER_02I literally know the one.
SPEAKER_04Just the original?
SPEAKER_02Like the original one.
SPEAKER_04Really?
SPEAKER_02We were talking about this, yeah. Like the whether I know Cinderella and then this this one and this Purchase one, like then we just obviously you know the Hillary Duff one. Um I don't know if I ever asked her about very much.
SPEAKER_03Chuck Michael Murray, the real winner of the Cinderella adaptations is the brandy surgeon.
SPEAKER_06Okay, I'm not gonna disagree with you in the fact that I believe. Like the singer? Oh, yeah. You've never seen it? I don't think that the brandy version is an adaptation. The brandy version is Cinderella. Cinderella.
SPEAKER_03That's fair. It's not an adaptation of Cinderella story, it just is a nap. I will say, last week on the way home from dance class, my daughter gets a stamp at the end of class. And then that week she found Cinderella's slipper. Yeah. And every week Teddy says, What stamp did you get? And she said, Cinderella's shoe. And Teddy's like, Why? Because he didn't know the story. He doesn't know he's never seen that movie. Why would he get a stamp of shoe? That doesn't make any sense. So we're driving home 20 minutes from the dance studio. I'm like, Do you want to get a story of Cinderella? And they're like, Yes. I was like, great. If you don't have to listen to Pokemon or Frozen or Nikonjo, I will tell you the story of Cinderella. So I really drew it out and I gave them an audiobook of Cinderella from my own brain on the way home. So that night, you know, we have dinner, we watch TV. After dinner, we're there allowed to watch 15 minutes of TV. It just says, I want to watch Cinderella. So I pulled up Disney Plus, I did it Cinderella. My options are the original 1950s Cinderella, the 2015 adaptation of Cinderella, which I could not place in my brain. I was like, I have no idea who's in this movie. I can't picture it in my head. Or Brandy as Cinderella. And I was like, the answer is brandy. The answer is brandy. The answer is brandy. So we put it on, and my brain exploded with nostalgia. I have not thought about this movie since I was probably 10 years old. I had no idea it was in my brain. And as soon as Whitney Houston came out with screen and goes, Impossible.
SPEAKER_05I was like, Oh my god, become a golden cabbage.
SPEAKER_03Impossible. My brain, like I've been singing this soundtrack all week because I can't get over it. And it it's when did that come out? I have to say 2001. Yeah, early.
SPEAKER_02Because I remember Cinderella being a play at my high school, and I remember hearing that song and being like, this is not a good thing.
SPEAKER_06It's Roger Hammerstein's Cinderella.
SPEAKER_02It's so much like the Broadway version.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, Roger Hammerstein does Cinderella on Broadway.
SPEAKER_03It's Brandy, some guy is the prince. I don't know who it is. And Whitney Houston. It's a notable. It's a notable Asian actor. Yeah. I mean he's great. Yes.
SPEAKER_02I'd like to see that now though, because like I remember the play in my high school, but like I it was you know a high school play, so it wasn't like crazy production. But like I'd like to see like a version of it. Yeah, a version that's like not the I was in the musical.
SPEAKER_06I'm Cola in high school. Well, were you? Um, I was in the cast. Yeah, entable. I have upstairs. Yeah. Oh my god, that means to see the light of down. No, it does not. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Amazing. I think we need to do social. Yeah, you can find us on MobLScript on TikTok and Instagram.
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SPEAKER_06Tell me that you've seen ever after. Yeah, Meg needs some solidarity on this one.
SPEAKER_03We're we're not there.
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