Eeedith Parsons Physical Culture with Nikki Gayner - Episode 7

Delulu on the Fire Horse & Eeeedith Unpacked

The wheels? Off.

The vibes? Questionable.

The delusion? At an all-time high.

In this episode of That Physical Culture Podcast, Renee and Justine come in hot after a couple of weeks where, quite frankly, the Fire Horse has the girls feeling completely delulu.

There’s a frank (and mildly unhinged) chat about where things are actually at right now. Think less “graceful physie pose” and more holding on for dear life at a galloping pace in the saddle. The girls unpack the week that was, the work that maybe was (or wasn’t), and the general state of play as the season starts to creep in.

Then, in a sharp left turn into something slightly more structured (but not much), we dive into the world of Edith Parsons Physie.

Or as it’s more affectionately known in this episode:

“Eeeedith… no Renee… EEEEDITH.”

We explore what makes EP noice, different, unusual, and what sets it apart from the physie systems you might be more familiar with. Expect opinions, observations, and a few moments of “oh… that’s actually very interesting.”

If you’ve ever felt personally victimised by your own motivation levels, questioned your life choices mid-routine, or wondered what’s going on over in EP land, this one’s for you.

Saddle up. 🐎

ps. We lost the ending of our interview to a technical glitch. We welcome thoughts and prayers.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Welcome back to that Fizzy podcast where you've got two fizzy enthusiasts talking about what they know very little about, the world of Fizzy, and I am your host, Renee Walker, joined by my co-host Justine Rigby. Yo, yo, yo!

SPEAKER_02 0:22

How are you going, mate? I'm a bit worried about you.

We're both a bit worried about each other LOLS!

SPEAKER_02 0:27

It's been a w it's it's been a guys, it's been a big week for our like um You don't even know what day it is.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Yeah, it's been a big sort of March because I even cried in that episode last time we got together. I'm not gonna cry today.

SPEAKER_04 0:43

Are you sure?

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm fine.

SPEAKER_04 0:46

She's you just bitched.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

I double dosed on my antidepressants. No, I'm I'm not sad. I'm just like so tired and overwhelmed. And I thought on the way home in the car, I was like, you know when the snake was shedding?

SPEAKER_02 0:59

Yeah. Oh, I know about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

God damn snake. I fucking hate for the snake. For those who aren't woo-woo, we're all about the work. Um, we got right down. Like, I think a lot of us got right down into the idea that you know, New Year's Eve actually didn't feel like the new year.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

No, I'm all about this Chinese zodiac now.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

Yeah, yeah, me too. Um, and someone, one of my acupressure therapists actually, Sarah, was like, oh, if you I just want to let you know, if you're not feeling the new year spark, it's because just don't even don't even worry about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

But she means like on the 31st.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Yeah, she's like, that's not even a thing. Wait, wait till the 17th of February.

The horse has bloody BOLTED!

SPEAKER_01 1:43

And you know, the fire horse is coming. Bolted and mate. I know that fire horse has come thick and fast for you. That fire horse can just level it down to a trot.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

I know, I know, and let's I'm gonna have to tell the listeners this is how good this fire horse has got our our lung oh my god, I can't fucking talk has got you that it is what are we, it's it's fizzy night tonight, and our border doll just not come in.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

You've gotta know when, like, because I know we keep talking about you've got to go to fizzy and don't miss a night because I'm obsessed with not missing a night, and I know what it's like for newbies when you've missed too many nights in a row and it can really get away from you. So I I keep saying go to fizzy, but I think you've also got to know when to tap out too. Oh,

You gotta know when to hold em

SPEAKER_01 2:34

yeah, of course you do. It's not gonna get away from you that bad. Oh god, it's one night. You did a double episode Oh, I did do double class on Tuesday.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Double class on Tuesday. I know. How did you find Tuesday? Was I there? Yes, I can confirm you were there, because a really funny thing happened to me.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Oh, Tuesday night on my losing it.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Oh my god, so good. You gotta set the we've got to set the scene. So our ladies' glass now is I don't know how many people.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

I I have no I can't feel dead set like 30 people. Okay, so this is good because I have like But I'm really bad at estimating figures.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

It's the same as me. I can't, I have no spatial awareness. So if someone says to me, like I'm with you, how big is that? Like, or how like how many meters? I'm like, I don't know. I can't tell between 10 metres and 100 metres.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Yeah, every time Scott and I walk into a stadium together, he goes, because he knows how bad I am. He goes, How many people do you reckon here? Could be 90,000. I go, 3,000, and he goes, it's about 60.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

I have no idea. So let's go with let's go with it was like 30 people. We guesstimate, yeah, about 30 people. And what I was at the back.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Yes, back, back, back back. And I was standing next to you because it was perfect timing. Back, back, back. You'll have to tell. You tell it way probably funnier than me. I don't know about that. Well, our teacher uh was trying to show us like one of the moves, you put your hand behind your head and like sort

Starting a class action case of discrimination - party of one

SPEAKER_01 4:06

of on the back of your neck at the base of your.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

What do you call that thing? Neck something.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Firm neck. It's probably something firm neck or something.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Primus. Prim arms. Oblique adjacent. Oh my god. Upside down bendy bend. I don't know, all those positions, they go over my head, the names. But um, you know, she was saying, make sure your fingers, the middle finger, meets in the middle. Yeah. And she goes, if you've got um, if one of your fingers is longer than the middle one, then put your hand up like haha, no one will do that.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

And I pointed it, just like, does anyone's fingers not meet? This hand went straight up.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

Straight up. They definitely don't meet. There's a huge gap.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

I was like, excuse you. Excuse you. I'm pretty sure you yelled.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

I called discrimination.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

I was like, is there a HR department? Please at this agriculture club.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

I said, personnel. This is a case of discrimination.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

So I felt like people who are in their class going, what the hell's wrong with her? Well, I kind of think it's touched.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

There's been so many moments where we it just gets so silly. So stupid. So dumb. Um, and there's so many jokes getting cracked that our teacher was like, ladies, people

Strong on recruitment, low on retention

SPEAKER_01 5:30

will start not coming to these classes if you guys don't button it. And we weren't even the culprits of that one. And I know we go real hard here on um always recruiting, but it did actually shock me. I was like, I've got no retention strategy going on here. Like, I've invited all these people to come to fizzy, and now I'm gonna burn them all away by being an absolute weirdo.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Oh, it's pretty funny, but the work is still getting hard, it's harder and harder.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Oh, that dance. I can't. It's so fast.

SPEAKER_04 5:59

It's just what's with the kick, kick,

The dance just gets faster every year

SPEAKER_04 6:01

kicks everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

I know, and there's a couple of girls in opens that were standing in front of us the other night, and I was like, this is just insulting. Like, they just what they look at it and then they do it.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Yeah, I know. What the hell? We used to there with um one of our mates, Kat, she's a she's a novice, and um we're doing the add-on for the contemporary, and we thought, because we're in the opens class, we just thought, oh, it's just like an open scene. And our teacher goes, Yeah. Or die. I just thought we were just like blowing the open. So it's like kiki kiki. No, no, no, in the contemporary, all these bloody saves of turnout business again.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Soft hands, soft hands, soft hands of turnout.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

That's all there is. That's what that whole entire routine is.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Someone's been listening to you.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

Oh, BJ Perr. Maybe I'll just tab maybe I'll need to go to the toilet in that one. Oh, yeah, just in every

Has anyone ever walked off the floor?

SPEAKER_02 7:00

single it'll be like my HSC for doing maths all over again. Am I just doing protest?

SPEAKER_01 7:06

Just get up to exercises and go Nah.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Nah, nah. Yeah, no, I'll get to floor. Oh yeah, floor. I'll get up off the floor drill. Yeah. I'll pretend I need to go to the toilet. And then I'll just come back at the end of the soft ballet hands.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Sorry, I was busting. Sorry. Imagine that.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

I was like, no, don't stop. No, no, no, no, no, don't trouble yourselves, don't stop the whole comp.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

An interesting question for the um for the podcast listeners. Has anyone seen someone leave the floor in the middle of a competition? It must be dire, don't get me wrong. But I would really love to know when you've seen someone just I mean, I guess injuries, right? Like someone. I reckon I've seen a girl crying because she hurt herself on the floor.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Oh, was it me? Do you know what I saw? I saw someone um a fizzy club commented on their TikTok today. I can't remember what it was. Their whole class did a Bridgetton.

Bridgerton vibes are alive and well in 2026

SPEAKER_02 8:07

The whole class. It's just so funny. That Bridgetton thing, that step, oh my god, that step was so funny. Guys, I can't begin to tell you how funny. Like, we'll go. We went in, so I had said to Renee, we've got to do this Bridgetton TikTok viral thing. And she's like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

I was like, I don't watch it. Well, I watched the first season and then it just got all a bit silly. No one's having sex that often.

SPEAKER_02 8:38

Oh far out. Real bathtub scene. Anywho's if you no spoilers, but you haven't watched her and grow. Yeah, I've missed quite a lot. Anyway, so I told Renee this is what we're gonna do, but we ran out of time before class, so then we went into class, and then the brid then the Bridgetton step came out.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

That was insane. I'm so fucked. Because she sent me the real Bravo and we were laughing, and then we did it. Oh, and she goes, Okay, we're gonna do the next eight or sixteen now, and we're like, all right, and was like, and then we do this, and I my head has never fucking spun so fast to find you in the room, and I was pointing it out to him and like, oh my god, and we're every we're just like kept going, Bridgetin, Bridgetin, and everyone's like, What are you two talking about?

SPEAKER_02 9:29

So we walked out in that little side room and was like, Alright, set it up, and everyone's like, What are you doing? And then we did it, and then like the girls who are still there was like, you two are such idiots.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

Yeah, and they also had to hold the camera for us. Yeah, well, they hold the camera, they're like, Shout out to Anna, and she was just like, Oh, do I have to? And I was like, Yes.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

I'm booked in to go

Taree Great Lakes Physie... we're coming for ya!

SPEAKER_01 9:48

to um foster.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

Oh, you are good. Yeah, I haven't done a good I haven't done an away interclub. Oh, you didn't come to Bonnie Hills. No, because I had literally just joined. And my first year, now I think about it now, right? I literally had joined and I had been there for I'm going two months at a push. It was like, you came to the interclub? I'm like, Are you yeah? You would have been like, are you serious? I was like, fuck no. I arrived four weeks ago. B don't know the work, and B, not going to Bonnie Hills with a whole bunch of people don't even know in 20 days. Yeah, I was like, mm-hmm, nah nah nah nah nah nah. And then it was the same year that I got asked to you do I wanted to come on the wine tour?

SPEAKER_01 10:29

And I was like, When anyone, I was like that too.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

I was like, I don't know anyone. And then and then the our interclub was on my birthday. So everyone just thought I kept like avoiding them. I'm like, oh no, I can't I can't go to that interclub, it's my birthday. Yeah, all right. All right, um so after the break, we actually had a such a fun chat. Bloody hell,

Nikki Gayner... can't get enough

SPEAKER_02 10:52

she was funny. Fire out Nikki Gaynor.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

She can come back anytime she bloody likes. She she can move into my house if she likes.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

How great is she? So, Nikki, yep. So your hero, Matt, um, our big chat to Nikki.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

She didn't even drink. I know! She's used to it. Yeah, we were drinking and she was sober. She'd been at work as a teacher all day and was killing Renee's basement. Yeah, still so bubbly, so engaging, totally sober.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Hats off to Nikki. I know, she was absolutely amazing. So um make sure you stick around after the break because we um do another, so we're doing a deep dive into EP this app, and we learned some like really cool things didn't know before, even though you know your PhD in a I reckon like people will be surprised.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Yeah, I reckon so too. Unless you do EP, she's had some great information.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Oh, exactly, and so much fun. So make sure you tune in and listen to that after the break. This episode of that physical culture podcast is proudly brought to you by Instinctive Health.

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SPEAKER_01 12:14

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SPEAKER_02 12:39

Okay, on today's episode, we have a very special guest from EP and from Tugra Lakes. Is it Fizzy Club? Yeah, Tugra Lakes Fizzy Club, and we have Nikki Gaynor here with us. So to intro uh Nikki a little bit, so Nikki, as I said, is from Tugra Lakes Fizzy, and she is the daughter of EP president Louise Phillips, and who is the lead teacher there at Tugra Lakes. Um, Nikki has been doing Fizzy since the womb we're here. I have. This is her 33rd year of fizzy, and she has never taken a break.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

You've never had a year off. Never one year. Wow. Girl. Sorry, when did you start? I was three. Oh God.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

My God. Seriously, without injuries, I'm going, is it without injuries?

SPEAKER_03 13:27

Uh, I mean, I had a couple of knee issues for a few years, but I kind of just went. Just powered through out through it. That's how you do it. Well, sure. That's how you do it.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Uh, she was a double dipping diva for a few years, doing BJP.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Oh, cool. Yeah, as a teenager, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Yeah, uh, she is a self-described herself as fizzy adjacent skills. She's the club hairdresser, the makeup artist, the photographer. She teaches the teenagers and primary schoolers as well as assisting the ladies with Louise. What I did want to share, which you neglected to mention to me, that um your mum actually shared a story of when you won um the extended section, that you are so beloved by everyone in the community that you got a um you were cheered by all the clubs, not just your own club.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

So that's how well loved you are. It was a very special moment. Um, it was a sectional champion, so we'll probably get into it, but they it wasn't a grand final, it was like a repercharge for BJP ISU. It's amazing. Um, yeah, it's amazing. Incredible achievement, one I never thought I would get. Um, it was a very, very special day. I actually didn't hear the reaction um because I had Louise over in the side of the stage watching and screaming the house down. And it it

The day she did good

SPEAKER_03 14:37

Mom! Yeah Josh! Honestly, I I thought because we had a few of us in that final, like it wasn't just me from my club, we had a few of us. So I assumed that one of the other ones had won it because they always did. And I was just kind of the background one that kind of toddled along for a little while. Um KG, the photographer, has an exceptional photo of um me looking at my number going, oh my god, we need to see that I'll find it and I'll send it to you. And my my teammate Christy, shout out. Um, she was just standing there going, Oh my god, oh my god, who is it? And then saw me walking past, and it was like it's just a really lovely moment.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

So was it one of those things where yeah, when they call out your number and you're just like, did do do it. 1000%.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

My number doesn't get called out, and that's absolutely fine. I don't do fizzy for the results, I do it because it's because I love it. Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

I always know my number. Do you never do? Absolutely camped out for a jump. I'm like, I'm gonna light hit the ceiling if this happens.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

I don't know my number, even though I think I know my number. It doesn't matter. I don't really need to do my number half the time. Um, so you've been doing fizzy since the womb. So what is your earliest memory of fizzy that you can remember?

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Okay, so it's not actually me doing fizzy, which is hilarious. Um, my very first memory

First mems of the phys phys

SPEAKER_03 15:51

of what fizzy like existed to me as was that mum used to have to take me to teachers class on Monday mornings.

SPEAKER_05 15:57

Of course.

SPEAKER_03 15:58

Because dad was out working, my sister, my older sister was at school. It was a Monday. Oh, Monday, yeah, right. Because a Monday, it's still on a Monday. Well, it had only changed to a Saturday in the last maybe five years. Yeah. Because people realise that we work and don't have Mondays. Um so yeah, it was a Monday morning. And so I remember getting in the car with somebody else, I don't know who the other person was, and we'd travel all the way down, and there was one day that it was super late that we got back, and by that I mean it was probably like seven o'clock, but I was four, so it was super late. Um, and so I was sitting in the car and I was sitting going, Mom, I need to go, like I want to go to bed, Mom, I want to go to bed. I'm a four-year-old. Um, and so she's sitting there going, but I need to figure out this position or I'll teach it wrong. It's like, but you've got it written down and you've been doing this forever, you're fine. Can we just get out of the car? Get out. And to be fair, I don't have to chase Louise out of competitions anymore, but we do have one in our club that we have to chase out every single time because she's just a big yapper.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

Um we all know that.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

Yeah. So Miss Mel, Miss Mel, who doesn't teach with us here this year, but has been teaching with us for a long time, um, she's the one we have to chase out of competitions. I'm pretty sure she listens, so she'll found out. Shout out, Miss Mel!

SPEAKER_02 17:04

I love that. I love how that's your earliest memory, too, of course. She's being dragged in teachers' clubs.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

She sounds like us.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Yeah. Knows how to yap, and then we get in trouble from like the other class that started and we're so loud in the background.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Also, how many times have I stood out in the car park in the dark? Honestly, pop-up chats are fine. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

It's like we're the best bands have.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

It's like a little party out there. Is that what happens with your club? A thousand percent. So we have classes that end on Monday nights, they end at nine o'clock. Um nine o'clock? Yeah. But yeah, so our seniors are going go from 9 30 to no, sorry, 7 30 to 9 o'clock. Um and so usually when we come out Don't don't mind us. Kind of technical error.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Do you mean throw my pen? There we go.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Um, yeah, so 7 till 9 for our senior. So 7 30 till 9 o'clock for our open seniors. Um, and usually we're walking down, and it depends on whether or not mum's got her car for the night. Yes. If she doesn't, we can get in the car and we can have a chat on the way home and it's fine. But if she has her car, we're dead set chatting there for the next 20 to 30 minutes. I love that. Before we even think about getting in the car and going, oh, I just have to go to work in the morning. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Do you think there's a bit of confusion, like how you guys I mean, we all just call ourselves, you know, whatever, fizzy club. But then we're different codes and you don't normally it's not like we're like, we're, you know, the entrance BJP fizzy club. It's all just called fizzy. Yeah. But then it's quite different.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

It's super different. Um, so the way I talk to everybody else that is around me and has no idea what they're doing. Um, I explain it like footy codes. So I don't know the difference between rugby or um NRL. Couldn't tell you the truth. Um I know that they're both football and I know that they're different, but Lord help me if you ask me to tell you the rules. Yeah. Um, but if I was in the game, I would know the rules between the two different life. Totally. So I can tell you the difference between BJP and EP because I've done both. Um, but I also know that Apta and Burns and United, they're all different. I couldn't tell you anything about what they're doing, but I know it looks similar to what we're doing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Yeah, totally. Totally. Um, so in saying that then, so what changes have you seen? Like, I know we just did our history episode and we've kind of spoken about EP before, but as someone who has literally lived and breathed it their whole life, what kind of like changes have you seen throughout the years?

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Um, so EP very much prides itself on being traditional fizzy.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:24

Um as much as as we can. We try to stick to this core as we can. But in saying that, we are still pushing every boundary that we can have. So while we focus on strength and poise rather than flexibility and flair, um, we've seen changes in the music in the different moves that are coming through. And that's because we have a bunch of younger choreographers now. We don't have just have the one person. Um, like it used to just be Edie would do it all, and then there'd be two or three teachers that were doing it, maybe, and then it's extended a little bit bigger. But now there's a whole group of people that are performing um for choreography teams, and then there's a choreography board separate to our regular board. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Yeah, and if you found that people um have been quite receptive to that considering how long EP has been around for.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

I think everyone likes having something a little bit different. Yeah. Um, so I did the ladies' rhythm last year, um, and it was the one of the first times that we've shifted the way that we do rhythm, which I assume is similar to swing or relaxed

EP chorey is evolving and we're here for it

SPEAKER_03 20:20

for BJP. Okay. Um so it's all it's our soft one, it's our flowy one. Yeah. Um you can smile through it, we get a little pretty, it's lovely. Um, and so the structure for EP fizy is always whatever you do to the left, you do the same amount to the right, and they're usually one after the other. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

Um, there's no deviance on the or the thing that like for us in BJP, between the left and the right, there's usually something in the middle. Yeah, we don't have that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Wait, we're talking about when we reverse it, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Of all the people who are not following me. Yeah. So when they go, all the stuff you've just done. Flip it to themselves, flip it.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

Then they something like like fussy in the middle.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

And you're like, Yes, I've seen a few of those going, oh, there's like eight counts that don't go with anything else. I that that would mess with my head. But I love that you've got it. It does.

unknown 21:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

We can confirm it does do that.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

Fantastic. Um, so then I screwed everybody over by doing 16 counts to the left that just weren't repeated ever. And then 16 counts to the right that were not the same as the first 16. And so we had a 16, a 16, and then a left and right for the advanced ladies would do an extension of a double. And so everyone that did it, except for our elementary ladies, so our very beginner ladies would do the first 16 left and right, but nobody else did. And so while it was a very new concept to everybody, and they all lost their damn minds the first time that they tried it, we got to about the middle of the year and everyone started really enjoying it. So we turn up in interclubs of people come up and go, Oh my god, that rhythm, it's so beautiful. Thank you so much. I did it. Um and then we get to the end of the year and everyone still loves it. You know how you get to the end of the year and you're over it? Yes. That didn't happen with this rhythm. Everyone was like, Yes, let's do it again. Yes, I had a couple this year um in my club go, Can we just do last year's again? Like I know it and I love it. It's really beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

And I mean we all know that you guys won the music

EP won the music this year

SPEAKER_01 22:03

this year. We did. They actually slayed it. Oh, smashed it. Oh, I wish. Because you guys can like you're tapping into retro like tunes.

SPEAKER_03 22:13

I think it actually stems from the fact that we started choreography two days ago. Like we our email to get our to put our option on. Yeah. So the form for us as choreographers to um like suggest, hey, I'd like to work on this exercise came out, yeah, Monday. Wow. Is it for this year? For next year.

SPEAKER_02 22:31

Oh, for next. Okay. I was about to say, what do you learn? For next year.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

So all of this stuff that's going on right now was made this time last year. Last year.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Do you guys do what BJP does and like put a call out for people to put forward their suggestions for music? Sort of.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

So it goes out, yeah. We do have a few call-outs for music um that goes onto our socials sometimes. Yeah. But it's more likely to come from the people that are choreographing. Yeah, I mean they've got to put Yeah, and it does depend how you choreograph, because I work very much with the music and then figure out the counts later, as opposed to other people that will choreograph the counts and then figure out how to make it fit to the music. Yep. Just different vibes.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

I think musicality comes first for you. For sure.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

Yeah. Yeah. If I my body doesn't want to go that way, then I'm not going to put it in a routine. No, it doesn't make sense. And it no one else is going to want to go that way either. Not at all.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

And do you do certain levels that you choreograph for?

SPEAKER_03 23:17

Um, so the every new EP choreographer will start with our five to eight year olds. Okay. And they'll start their work their way up. So I started with um the five to eight stance. The first routine I ever choreographed was a five to eight stance. Um, and that was about ten years ago. Um, and it was to uh the Lego movies Everything Is Awesome. Oh, I love that song. Oh my god, that is gonna be so stuck in my head. It's honestly the biggest earworm.

Everything is awesome

SPEAKER_03 23:43

Um and to the like I've got um one of the girls in our seniors this year, she was five at the time, and so she can still do the whole thing when that song comes out. Yeah, it's really cute. She'll turn up like, remember that dance but yes, I do. I I made it. What a what a party troop. Yeah, I know it's fully corrupted. To be fair, I have some crazies in my teenager group. Um, if I'm allowed to, I'll shout their names out later. Um so I have um Bella in my 16s

Shout out to Bella in the 16s

SPEAKER_03 24:11

this year, and she is insane. Um, to call her committed is actually a little bit of an undersell on her. Um so she will know every grand champion for the last 30 years. She will know what place they got, what colour they got were wearing, and the dance or the best routine that they did on that day.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

She's like the walk in Wikipedia, she's our errand.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Honestly. She's also a bit like um that Australian cricket player they call him Mr. Cricket, because he knows everything about cricket, like all the stats.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

She's she's Miss Fizzy. Yeah, she is. She's insane. Um, and she's a beautiful soul as well, so that genuinely helps. So she's been with us for 11 years this year, 10 years last year for her, and she's just kind of gone down the rabbit hole. Every time I have her a class, she's like, if I put this much effort into math, I'd be a genius.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Okay. Well, yeah. Where's math? Who needs math? Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

That's what my husband says about my job. He's like, if you put this much effort that you put into the podcast into work, we'd be millionaires.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

Yeah, well, I thank you that you just like to hang out with me instead. Free work. Um, just oh sorry, I'm just finding my place. Sorry, I went on a real good tangent. Oh, we oh, we love a side quest. We call them side quests. We love it. Before I I want to speak to you about routines,

Routines, let's deep dive ladies

SPEAKER_02 25:19

because you know, this is my Roman Empire when it comes to EP. But can you explain to me from like a seniors to ladies, what is the levels? Because I get really confused when it's, you know, um the extended section. Like walk me through it.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Sure. So our 17 to 20 year olds are our intermediate seniors. So you ideally you would have worked your way up through fives to 16s and then gone into interest from there. But if you're starting fresh as a 17-year-old, you're an intermediate senior. Oh, that's what you start. Automatically, yeah. That's the way you go into the side. That's where you start.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

Intermediate senior.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

Yeah. Once you get to 18, which is why anyone starting at 17, we kind of just tell them maybe hold off a year. Because at 18, you can choose to be a beginner lady or an intermediate.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Okay, so there's one section for seniors. Yep. That's it. So you all go in the bottom.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

I start an intermediate. So intermediate to you there for 17, 18, 19, and 20. 21, we move into our open seniors.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

And so that's you can stay in open seniors until the end of time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Um similar to us. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

Yeah, so but we don't break our seniors up into age groups like you do. I think it's just because of numbers. We don't have as many, so we don't need to. Um, so you can be anything from 21 and over in our open senior group. Okay. My mum did open seniors until she was well over 40. Stop. Um my auntie did the same. I think she was for I I'm gonna I'm gonna get in trouble, I'm sure. But 42, maybe 43, before she moved out of open seniors, and then Melissa Bailey went to 44. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

Just think about that, right? Like you're you're just doing your thing over here, and there's 21-year-old just right next to you. Yeah. Crazy.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

Absolutely crazy. What little mix f misflexy next to you. It's 21-year-old that bounces when she falls over, yeah. I can see why on that last year of seniors you'd be like, just hang out and you can do beginners ladies.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Yeah. Uh so yeah, anyone that's 17 and just starting at brand new, never done any dancing physio or whatever. We kind of go, you know what, maybe have a year where we register you but don't compete. Yeah. Yeah. And then you can do the year ladies for a year, and then we'll put you in as an elementary lady the first year. Um so after seniors, you can then we don't say down because it's not, it's moving across to extended ladies. So the extended ladies group is just as strong as the open seniors in terms of how even it is.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:27

So we're we're not as flexible as the seniors because they're insane. Um but in terms of time on their side. They've got youth on their side. They do. Um yeah, so when you look at the extended ladies as a group, it's very even at interclubs. We're usually the hardest ones to judge at interclubs because we have to learn the work faster.

SPEAKER_05 27:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

Um so extended ladies do the uh exercises and lunge group of the seniors. And then we do the deportment, the floor drill, and the rhythm of the ladies. So we've kind of mixed the case.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Oh, so you like a mix.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Yeah, I think I think it's similar to the elites that you guys used to have.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Yeah, okay, so there is a big petition going on in the BJ Tobey. To bring it back because I feel like it is that hybrid. Yeah, it's a hybrid motto.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

It's very much hybrid. Because I I believe um from people that we've spoken to, there's a big um there's a big change in the work between seniors and ladies. Huge. And like people are kind of like, I don't want to do that work.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

That's actually exactly why extended ladies were created for EP. So that started in 2008. Oh, okay. And my mum and my auntie were one of the first two to go over in that first year. Because they were doing seniors, because they were still in seniors in 2008, crazy. Um for reference, my mum was born in 63 and my auntie was in 65. Like they were well up there. Oh, that's awesome. Um, yeah, so the extended ladies was born for exactly that purpose. There were so many seniors that just did not want to go to the ladies because they didn't feel like the work was challenging enough. Yeah. I say that the ladies' floor drill, I can't sit up

Ladies Floor Drill can absolutely jog on

SPEAKER_03 28:59

straight to save my life. Doing the ladies' floor drill takes it out of me. Because sitting at a long seat is the bane of my existence.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Oh, I get you. It's your lunch. Yeah, I get it, don't you?

SPEAKER_03 29:08

Yeah, oh, it's my lunch for sure. I do five lunges before doing a floor drill.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

I thought I was sitting up so straight the other night, and our teacher was like, Renee, sit up. And I was like, oh yeah, I'm doing freaking as straight as it's gonna get.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

Die. We had a class on Tuesday, um, because Tuesday has our beginner night, beginner ladies' night. Um, and we were talking about the long six. We have a huge amount of elementary ladies this year, which is amazing. We love it. Oh, that's cool. It's so cool.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

Yeah, so you've seen them lift up too.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

Yeah, like it's chokers. It's chokers, we love it. Yeah, it's so good. And they're hanging around. Yeah, and they're sticking with it, which we love. By now, I reckon we would have seen a bit of a drop-off like in previous years. And I'm like, I still can't get a space on the floor yet.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Yeah, so they're sweet.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

We had to we had to move our beginner ladies class. We were in a community hall, we had to move it to a high school hall to be able to fit with it. It's it's amazing, it's so exciting. Yeah, cool. Um, yeah, so we're talking about long sits and how to move, and I was telling them how to am I allowed to use body anatomy. Oh my god, go stunning. So I was talking about rotating their hips, and I was like, for visual learners, you need to put your vagina facing the floor.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

100%. It's a lot of people. Yeah, that's right. Roll it that way.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

So then and they all went, oh and one of them that's been teaching that has been doing it for over, like, I think she's doing it for 50 years, but she taught for a little while, she had a big break, and then she came back. She's like, you know, I have never heard it said that way, and now my long suit is so much better. Like, great. There you go, every morning.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Women helping thank Nikki for that. Everyone, get you get your Vijay Jays onto the floor.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Onto the floor, roll it over. I'm gonna have to come up with a saying for that.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Oh, you will. There you go. But you can't trademark it because it's Nikki's, so you'll have to always give her credit.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Get your cooch

Get ya cooch on the couch

SPEAKER_01 30:45

on the table.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Where do we get to? Stunning.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

What do we get to do? That's going to be extended down.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Yeah. We'll see how quickly we can get banned off TikTok and lucky on the editor.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

I'm usually the one.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Please leave that one in. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

So funny.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

So we got to extend it. Um our ladies' pipeline, they all kind of lead up to the same spot. So our ladies' pipeline starts at elementaries, and you can start at 18 there.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:09

Um, so you spend three years in elementary ladies, three years as a first year lady, three years as a second year lady. So there's nine years of beginners. Oh yeah, it's great. You get a nice little lead-in.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Nine years! Yes. We're intermediate, and I only started yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

I'm telling you, EP. Know where it's at.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

We do take um previous physi experience into our account. We put you in age group. So if you've been, we have one that joined us from BJP, she moved from Hunter's Hill up to us. Yeah. Um, and so she came in going, I've done two years, where would I sit? So she came in as a third year elementary. She had one year there, and then she jump up. So you kind of fit in where you fit where you finished. Um, yeah. So by the time you get to end of second years, if you've started at 18, you're now 28. Wow, you've had the time to kind of build up and understand what fizzy is, and the work sort of gets a little bit longer. This is what it's about. Um, yeah, so from there you go into advanced ladies, and that's kind of how you jump. And then you that's and then that's your training. From there, you can jump to extended ladies or open seniors however you please. So if you're in opens, extendeds, or advanced, you can jump around wherever you like, so long as like if you jump like the work, you can jump into that age group. Yeah, yeah. There used to be some rules about how long you could stay there and whether you got stuck for a year or two. They've taken that away. So if you are doing advanced ladies but you really like the open senior work and want to give it a crack, you can just hop your body.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

Within the year?

unknown 32:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Oh. So you get you we don't have to finalise our registrations until August.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Oh, that is a hack. Oh. We have like we've we've got a deal on at the moment. 35. Yeah, because we we're running the show. We've got a special discount

Special discount just for you!

SPEAKER_01 32:42

for BJP at the moment. Register before the 31st of March and get $40 off. Yeah, we're doing girl math. Yeah, we have to lock it in. We have to lock that shit down. Yeah, no, we we've got a bit, we've got a bit of time. And also, if you do open seniors, you have to roll on into open ladies. Oh yes, yes. They do extra work. Yeah, right. Like, and so a mate of mine did one year of open seniors when she was like maybe 21, and then she came back as a lady um in her late 30s, and she was like, damn it.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Oh, and because they recognize it, right? Like Yeah, they say that.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Yeah, she's like, now I have to do open ladies, and I don't really feel like it.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

We've got a few of those rules rules too. So if you got up to seniors and then you came back after it, sorry. Let's try that again. Um if you got up to and a senior age groups, intermediates or open seniors, and then you took a bunch of years off and then you came back, you might be a second year lady, you might be an advanced lady. It depends where you finish. Yeah, yeah. So you don't start back at the bottom if you've had that much experience.

SPEAKER_05 33:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Um, just so it's fairer to the elementary ladies. Like you've got to be a good one.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

If you've really only just freshly stepped into physical culture and you're up against this person that's done it for the 20 years as a kid, but then have decided to come back, like that's not fair.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

We've talked about this at length.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

At length! Because they come straight back into novice. Yeah, no, we're not at all. We only get one year to be a beginner, and I'm telling you, I've only feel like I'm finishing beginners right now. Well, maybe I should have over and gradual novice free.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Yeah, 100%. Double dipping D very.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Oh Lord, if I had the time. Apta is the same. They count all of your experience. Yep. So does United.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 34:28

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

I love it.

unknown 34:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

If I had the time, I'd come and try it out. But the podcast is my second. Oh my god, I think.

SPEAKER_03 34:35

You should still do it, it's fun. Um, yeah, so I think our most absolutely beloved age group is our veterans. So we have Oh, is this like your masters? Yeah, so when we when we hit advanced advanced ladies, you can either be, well, everyone that registers as an advanced lady is automatically enrolled into open advanced ladies. And there's a separate competition for those that want to compete to go to town hall for the top 36 this year. It was 36th last year, it was the first year they've ever taken 36 ladies to town hall. Very exciting. Um three heats instead of two. Um, and so there's a separate day for that. And then if you don't compete in that, or if you don't get to town hall and you want to try again for something else, you go into a sectional group. So that's where we break our ladies into ages. So there's 30 and under, 30 to 40, 40 to 50, 50 to 60.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

And this is what you're referring to as like the repercharge.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

Correct. Yeah. Um, so they get to get another crack at it. There's a bunch of places there, and you can become a sectional champion.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Oh, okay. So this is like what

Sectional Champion... such a great idea!

SPEAKER_02 35:25

uh Montana was explaining to us about the divine. Yes, div one, div two. Yeah, another crack.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

But it's on a separate day for us. I have to have to do it on the same day, which is wild. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

I reckon you might need to pull your mic just slightly closer. Is that alright? Yep, that's heaps better. Okay. You're a little bit quieter than us.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

Yeah, so our masters are 60 and above, and we actually had to divide that into 60 and above and 70 above because we had too many ladies. Oh, that's like what a crazy concept that there are too many women in the 60s and 70s that we had to split them.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

It's incredible.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

And have you found that that's because people have joined?

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Yeah, so we've got a lot of people that have just come back to physi going, this is fantastic, because our veterans don't have to do floor drill.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

I want to be a veteran. Yes. You should see, honestly, our floor drill this year. I even I was like, I'm like, are you expecting 70-year-olds to do this?

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Well, I can't even do it. Maybe I need to put on some like prosthetic aging.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Get a little fake birth certificate, mate.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

I'll do it. So yeah, we've had some good time with our veterans. We have, I think we have one of we did have the biggest veterans class um as Togo Lakes for a long time. Um, and then we had a whole bunch of clubs like open their veterans up, and they've it's honestly such a big group now, it's insane. Um we have teams of veterans ladies, we've got all this good stuff going. They just do a little bit less of the work and no floor drill. But we've got these absolutely exceptional women that have been doing physics since they were in the womb like I was.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

I bet they crush.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Oh, they absolutely slake. Yeah, every single one of them, they kill it.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

It's one of those things that like you almost just get better as you get older. Like, there's not really a massive setback at being older. For sure.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

I think especially in fizzy. Yeah. Because you kind of perfect your craft.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

Yeah, muscle memory, like unless your memory starts failing.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

Even then, we've had so many ladies go, this has helped keep my memory hurt. Oh, a beautiful lady in our veterans named Sandra, and she has um Parkinson's, absolutely beautiful human. And her doctor said to her, Whatever you're doing, keep doing it. Because it's keeping your progress progress in this horrible disease. It slowed it down.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

That's incredible. When we did the history episode, every time I said, you know, and then someone died, everyone was like in their 90s. Yeah, everyone's killing it. I know it's a blue zone. Yeah, that's what we're calling it.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

It's the blue zone of the fitness. Okay, so let's chat about routines. Routines. I just get so confused. Now, one of the ones I can't remember which episode we were, and I said to Renee, write this down. I need to understand why they're two marches, and are they back to back? How does this thing work?

SPEAKER_03 38:05

Okay, great. So uh we have our long march, which is getting us onto the floor. So we come from wherever side stage is on that time, we march on a diagonal, yes, up the side and then across the back and stop. Okay. And so that's the time where your the judges are getting your number and judging your march.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

So you only kind of do like the one lap, so you do a really long.

SPEAKER_03 38:22

It's not quite a lap. The first line needs to be, um, it's horrible being the first one because you've got to count. Um, when you get to that front corner, it's got to be around 15, 16 steps.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

Somewhere in that realm, so that everybody gets through and the music hasn't stopped halfway through your margin.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Oh no, I'd hate to be first.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

Um so by the time you've finished, you've done maybe a maximum of 55 to 60 steps.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Um,

Marching out and marching to deportment

SPEAKER_03 38:43

and then that you get to stand at the back a little bit. It's a little bit awkward, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

I've watched it, I'm like, oh, those poor girls are just sort of standing there, just waiting for the next thing to do. Honestly, most of us are breathing because marching takes a minute.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

Most of us just died in quietly. Correct. Um, and then we move ourselves around the floor to do our march deportment. So they are back to back, but by the time you finish, there's about a minute between stopping and starting again. Um, it used to be the long march was way longer as whenever the judges decided you could stop.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Or stop or like on like you know, like um oh, you know those game shows where they hit the buzzer and they're like, I've had enough. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

Honestly, that's the vibe.

unknown 39:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

Um Yeah, so we had Yeah, so it used to be whenever they felt like it. So that was just a three-minute long track, and you just marched until they said stop. Stop it. And this is suck. I'm only talking about my time because there was a time before my time where you had your deportment, and I actually did do this for a few years. Deportment was built into the marching. So you'd march around the room and then you'd do your deportment around the room.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

Okay, so what is the difference between marching and deportment?

SPEAKER_03 39:47

So deportment is kind of like the warm-up or the cardio. Oh the first routine. Oh deportment.

SPEAKER_02 39:53

Yeah, right. So, okay, so but where's the second march then?

SPEAKER_03 39:56

Like that that is your second march. So your first march is marching and standing at the back.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:00

And then you spread around the room and do a little march before you do deportment.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Oh, so the second march is like just to get us to our our little spot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:06

Well, yes, but it's also 64 counts of marching. It's a proof of a bit of march. It's uh we look, we march the most and we march the slowest. Ah it is slower, it is very slow. So most marches sit at about 92 to 96 beats per minute. And it's not a fist right. You're just folding. It's it's I'll use my not Gabby hands. Um it's it's

It's not a "fist"

SPEAKER_03 40:26

a relaxed hand. I don't know if I can make that into It's a relaxed hand, people. It's a relaxed hand, it's not a full fist. Oh, so you wouldn't even Gabby out to get that right. But when you've got a kid, it's a like for the kids, it's a full fist. Oh, that would be teach them that. Um, and there's still a lot of ladies that march with a full fist, but I find it strains my arm and hurts.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

So I don't know, it's hard to make your arm look relaxed when you're tensing it.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

Well, that's the other thing. We don't have relaxed arms. Our march is strong. We have strong knees, strong arms the whole way around. So there's nothing in the relaxed.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

It's really like um original fizzy. Original fizzy marching, yeah. Like closely linked to military military.

SPEAKER_03 41:04

Absolutely. And that's it's one of the core things that I'm yelling as they're marching around the room every week. Knees, tight, knees, knees! The whole way around the room.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

It absolutely speaks German. So then what's up to deportment, which is our warm-up? I'm loving this, I'm learning.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

Oh no. So our deportment um goes into exercises, and that is three to four run-on exercises depending on the age group. So kids will do three or four, seniors and ladies will do four. Um, and so that kind of moves through like a breathing exercise, and then we'll do something that's more um like lateral and bendy based, so we might do a few arches and things. Then there'll be one that's kind of like a toe drill, so it's a lot of pointing and sharp legs, sometimes a jump in the kids' ones. Thank God they don't make ladies' jumps. I would probably quit.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

And you've been doing it for how long? 33 years old. Jumping is not for this lady.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

This lady does not jump. It's definitely not for anyone who's had children.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

Oh god, no. Yeah, maybe that's awesome. The tails everywhere hold up.

SPEAKER_03 41:57

And then our fourth one will be strength-based. So it might be um, there might be like just some trunk forward bends where you're using your core strength. It might be some leg height, it just depends on what the choreography has done on that particular period. Yeah, right. So where's the lunge? That's coming. But that's that's just one routine. That's just exercise. That's the two and a half minute.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

It's broken up into like four quadrants, if you like. So that's our that's our big one.

SPEAKER_03 42:17

That's our two and a half minute. Wow, so that's that's the the doozy of the that is the doozy. That's usually the separator. You usually watch to see who's got the stamina to make it to the end of the fourth quarter.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Okay, so it's that. So we've got marching, deportment, exercises. Now what are we at?

SPEAKER_03 42:30

And then we move to rhythm so we can take a nice breath, we can smooth it out a little bit. It's our pretty one. This is where we get our rhythm hands. Have you done the dog trick for rhythm hands? What's the dog trick? If you make a little dog with your hands and then make him open his mouth and then shake it, you end up with a perfect rhythm hand.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

Oh, that is a hack for you, did it not? I know, but can you imagine me on the floor in the middle of like just finishing him like, sorry guys, I just missed it in my dog hands.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

Dog. I know. The other way I teach it to the kids is that the energy is only in my middle finger.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

I know. See, this is and we come back to it, people. This is this I'll do it. Yeah. It's there. If I could chop off any other finger, my fizzy career would have been fine.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

But I You really picked the wrong one there, didn't you? It's really hard to like hold it tight. I can't. It just stands out, mate.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

It all comes down to fingers. No, the the puppy trick is what I teach the kids. So they open the mouth and give it a shake, and it usually relaxes. Um, Louise will teach it as petting your cat. Stroking a cat, you have to be nice and pretty and calm. She'll put that into their heads. Soft kitty, soft kitty.

SPEAKER_02 43:37

Can you just remind just at the start of class, whenever we get into contemporary kitty, yeah, just go, do it.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

Soft kitty. Perfect. Creepy. Um, yeah, so rhythm is very flowy. It's as best they can, they'll put it to a waltz piece of music. So it's a three, four, or six, eight time. Okay. Um, so it has that sort of movement to it, so you can get a little bit more in terms of musicality. So you still can't change timing. You can never change timing in EP. Yeah, it must have time. But you can flex it a little bit. You can add a little bit of Louise likes to call it light and shade. A little dynamic, a little light. Oh, she get along well with our teacher. Light and shade. So you can kind of play with it just a little bit in terms of you have to still be at the right spot at the right count. But the way you get there might change a little bit. Yeah, heavy light. There's heavy light lights.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Yeah, we've heard that on repeat.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Yeah. So yeah, there's a little bit of ex extra there, but not a lot.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Yeah, nice. Okay. And then and what's after?

SPEAKER_03 44:32

And then we do get to Florille and I cry a little on the inside. Um like no. Pretty much. Um, yeah, so floodrill, there's either two or three of those depending on the age group. Um there's nothing really wild and exciting about that except for the fact that we don't have to get on the floor and die. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we try to be as core core muscle strength as possible. There's no splits, there's no flexibility. Well, there is a little bit like things like basically reaching and touching your toes. Yes. But there's not the depth of flexibility that I see in Aptor and BJP rejection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

Yeah, pancaking. Uh oh, still have nightmares about that.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

That's right. The the our seniors will have a sit astride past a 90 degree, so they'll they won't be at 180, but they will go past 90. Two majors will someone sometimes go just past 90, but ladies will always have a 90-degree angle on their legs, and that's it. That's it. You're actually not allowed to go further.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

I love that. Love that.

SPEAKER_03 45:21

And that's all our our juniors as well. So five to twelve, no one go further than 90. Which is actually a real struggle for a lot of our juniors. They just split because they're spongy and stretchy. I know.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Can we just normalise the 90-degree split, everybody? Let's normalize that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

Just bring it in standard code.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

Yeah, it's like that's all that's expected of us.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Yeah. Uh the seniors flooded this year is delightful. I love it. Uh, as soon as we get a full video of it, you should absolutely wash it.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Oh, amazing. Yeah, we will. Yeah, awesome. I want to come to Town Hall. Honestly, do it. I want to such a good time.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

We're going to kind of talk about teams as well.

SPEAKER_01 45:53

Do you reckon teams? Do you reckon we can get a VIP box with some drinks?

SPEAKER_03 45:56

Mate, if there was, I'd be in it. Um we actually we actually do have special seating for our um life members. So we have a few honorary, just for one year. Just for one year. I love it. Um, yes, we do have special seating for our life members that get a specific seat in town hall with the best view. Oh, that's not true. I don't know if they're gonna waste that view on us. To be fair, everywhere in town hall is the best view. Oh, okay. It's such a stunning location, and everywhere that they allow us to sit because they have things bad about, of course, they do. Um, it's just so beautiful in every possible way with the big organ and the organ and the timber and the. Yeah, it would be stunning, I must admit.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Is that in the um centenary hall? Yeah, the big main part of town hall. So my ancestor built that room. That's so fun. Yeah, Arthur, um, oh yeah, he built that room. There's a whole book about it. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Well maybe he can maybe you can hook it up. Yeah, hook it up with that. That'll get you down. Surely he's got a seat somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

I'll go, I'll backdoor it with the town hall crew.

unknown 46:56

You'll just see us there.

SPEAKER_03 46:59

It's beautiful. Now, if you do get to go, which we don't they don't tend to tell us if they sell out. I don't know if they have or if we just never have sold out. Um, but the best place to sit is up the back near the photographers.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

So the photographers got the best.

SPEAKER_03 47:12

Yeah, so KG will always sit um with Renee, who are the two main photographers, um, and they'll sit in the centre of the back, and essentially the spotlight is there as well for our grand final, and that's the best spot to sit out. Oh, there we go. I've got a question.

Is Renee a Physie name?

SPEAKER_03 47:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

Is Renee not a very fizzy name? It is exceptionally.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

We have two in our ladies' class alone.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

I don't understand what's going on since we started the this account, podcast account. You know, like growing up with this name, I never went to school with another Renee. Like I did you? Nah, not in my year. I was very unique for a while there and not not so much now. I reckon you've named German as muck out of the 80s.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

I suppose you've only you never met one when you're Jessica or Sarah, though. You're not like Sarah S, Sarah F S.

SPEAKER_03 48:01

We have actually got a thousand Sarah's. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

They all came out of the 80s and 90s. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Just since doing the podcast, because we don't have another Renee at where we are. Um, I'm just like, God, is Renee a real fizzy name? I feel like I've found my people. Yeah, yo, you're destined.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

You're destined to come. All right. So we've got floor drill. So floor drill, and then we get up and then we do our lunch group. So our lunch group can be two or three groups, and everybody from nine-year-olds up will have a lunge group. So the sevens and eights, five, sixes, and sevens and eights have a point and jump instead of a lunge group. So they'll do a more agility-based sort of thing, and it's very cute. Um, but then from nine-year-olds up, we will put in a lunge group at the very end before they dance. Um, and so that's all about leg and quad strength. Um, and the older they get, the more they have to put in balances as well as the lunges and kind of go between the two. Um she hates balanced as well. If you have access to a video of the Yarrowara senior lunge from last year, get it.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

I reckon I could get it. I'll just ask her. Is it your mate at Yarawara?

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Yeah, she is.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

I'll ask her, I'll ask her for it.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

All the senior teams are always beautiful. Um, but the choreographer for that lunch group was in that team. Oh, that's a cheat.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

I should also find the um this is how much I don't like balancing. It's like I just I hate lunge in, and then I especially hate a lunch into a balance. That's probably my worst nightmare in um the open teams. No, in the open teams for um, oh yeah, in exercises. There is in our in my team, I like you see me, I'm the only person who falls out of it.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

And I was like, It's all about breathing.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

I know I've had this, yeah, it's the breathing, and I've

It's all about breathing... breathing out.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

got told the visualization of like my f our friend Jen. She's just brilliant. She's always getting me to visualize furniture. Yeah, she's like, right, you are a chair, you're a chair, now you're a table. And I'm like, yeah, no, I get it. No, I just can't do it.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

She must also teach drama.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

Oh, Jen, she's a uh chair.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

You're a chair.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

You're a chair. She's um a dance, like she's dancer by you know, trade and uni and stuff like that. So I often would say to her, How do I how do I stick it? So, but it is true. She's like, you've got to breathe, hold your core, you know, yeah, all these kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 50:11

And I still fall out. It's breathing out, not breathing in. And that's what gets people. If you balance breathing in, everything tightens and nothing works. You've got to breathe out so that the muscles you're not trying to use relax. So a slow exhale. Slow exhale when you're trying to bend. Breath exhale.

SPEAKER_02 50:26

You could do lunging. No. I'm never gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 50:28

Isn't is your issue a knee or a hip problem? Hip. I can't square my hair. Can't square your hips? Yeah, good. I love that. I love that for you. I love that. It's honestly it's the most common issue we have. I'm a common.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

Common is my. I'm common as my I can't do it, Nikki. You have no idea. Like, it is this ongoing joke where we are that I'm like, why? Uh and like our get down at the moment, like our teacher's like, all right, swing your legs around into a lunch. I'm like, because we can have like a choose your own adventure to get down.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

Um, and I as soon as I looked at the thing, they're like, choose your own adventure, how do you get down? I went, well, I shan't be getting down.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

I won't be any lunging. I love a good lunge get down. Has anyone told you the headlight trick?

SPEAKER_02 51:16

No? For your hips? Oh yeah, yeah, pretend you're in headlights. Yeah, you're a car. I've like, I just crack, crack. Crack, crack. I just can't do it.

SPEAKER_03 51:23

It also could be that you're crossing your feet. Um, so when you take a step forward, if your heel is in front of your other toe, there's no way you're ever getting a square hip.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Oh maybe. Oh, maybe that's what it is. God, you've got the tip. Oh, mate. I mean, I've been tending for 20 years.

She's got the tips.

SPEAKER_02 51:37

I've been hiking on speed dial. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 51:40

And then we've and then we're bringing up the re dance. With our dance, yes. So everyone, all juniors and seniors do a dance. The ladies do not do a dance, which saddens me because I'd love to. But if you brought a dance into the ladies' syllabus, they would quit. So not a not a common e-bate. Maybe on commoner eBay. There is no dance for ladies at all. I would love a dance personally, but which is why I still choreograph them. However, um, yeah, a lot of ladies, a lot of extended have moved to extended because of the senior dance.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

Because they get senior. At least the originals.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

A little, like the originals that moved over was because of the dance. Now there's a whole bunch of different reasons to move. But yes, a lot of them originally would move from seniors to extended because they didn't want to do that dance anymore.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Yeah, no, I'd I always struggle with the dance, but I'm not a dancer. Sure. I've never done dance.

SPEAKER_02 52:25

We've already established you are dancing.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

We are a dancer.

SPEAKER_02 52:28

She's a dancer!

SPEAKER_01 52:33

Um, do you ha have in EP um what is it we called it? Make your own adventure. Oh, choose your own adventure.

SPEAKER_03 52:40

To get down or so they tried that for a a little while.

Choose your own adventure

SPEAKER_03 52:43

So we do have issues with our floor drill. Um, because not everyone can get down on the floor. Everyone can get down on the floor. There's knees, there's hips, there's elbows, there's everything's an issue. Injuries. Um, yeah, that's right. So we have we have tried a couple of different ways. There's been years where we've said, okay, you have these two options. So there's a a knee-based option and a lunge-based option. You choose which one works for you. Oh, gotcha. Um, which works to a degree. Um, the issue that we sometimes face is that the choreography gives you that option at the beginning, but then you have to get on your knees later. And so it really doesn't actually matter that how you get down because that is our problem that we can't get onto our knees. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:18

My mum's got two fake knees. Yeah. And like she actually can't, she's not allowed to kneel on the show. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:24

So every year the ladies' floor drill is probably the hardest to to get through choreography just because they've got to be aware. And because we want ladies to keep doing it. Like, we don't want you to stop just because we've got one thing that you can't do. Yeah. So we we try our very best to go, okay. Well, let's how can we do this so that the most people can keep doing what we're doing?

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 53:41

Yeah, totally. And so I as far as I'm aware, I've only seen a little bit of this year's floor drill. I I think this year's is probably the first that we have don't have to go onto our knees at all.

SPEAKER_02 53:49

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

Um, I think I can't be 100% sure, but we'll see how we go with that. Um, so that should bring a lot more back in.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

Oh, cool. Okay, great. Now I'm gonna leave teams till last because I know that this is the speciality of you.

SPEAKER_03 54:01

It actually really is.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

Of course. Um I want to know though. Costumes. Yeah. Performance wear. Oh, the bling, the letards, it's actually the best. Get to make your own.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

I personally make my own.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

So

Let's talk bling... finally!

SPEAKER_02 54:15

you don't buy with the bling.

unknown 54:16

No.

SPEAKER_03 54:17

Well, you can. You can. So we have neon and grand active and um Shima Lair Tards and Just Bling does her own as well. Like there's a bunch of different companies that do do that. They do them, actually. Um, and you can buy them like that. But I'm a weird body shape and size, and as a plus size girly, it's hardy anyway. Yeah. Um, and it's just a hard to hard time. So I make my, I'm a textiles teacher, so I know how to make my own anyway. Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

So you make so you're like patterning, your sewing and cutting the light crop.

SPEAKER_03 54:42

Yeah. It actually became a real problem because I went, my grandma taught me how to sew when I was 12. Um, because she would always make our letters. She was just the one that would make our costumes every year, which was great. Um, and so she taught me when I was 12 to start learning how to sew. And by the time I was 16, I was making my own.

SPEAKER_05 54:56

Amazing. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

Yeah, and so I would always pattern my own and make my own, but I would never actually pattern properly, and it would drive her insane. Um, it's pretty much. It's all right, it's fine, grandma. It'll fit, it'll work. And the insides of my letters are no one's business, but it's not anyone's business. Not a single person's business, and they look horrific, but the outsides are still.

SPEAKER_01 55:16

Textiles was my best subject in the HSC. Love that. And I also was thinking about the inside. I was like, oh, if I made my own, it might look alright from the outside. There's a wonderful technique called bag lining.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

Oh. And then you can't see it at all. Oh, great. You're so clever. Thank you. Wow. Um, yeah, so I make my own. Um, and then when I went into textiles teaching, I'd start doing with patterns and cotton, and I can't sew with cotton to save my life. Wow! Because I'm so used to it. Lycra to me. Very hard. Yes. But you don't know any better. You're like, oh well, that's right. So when I put cotton patterns through my sewing machine, I'm expecting it to move and I'm expecting it to stretch and to wheel, and it doesn't. It doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

And you've got to use different um needles and needles. Everything everything's different when you sew on lycra.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

You know what you do really well, RuPaul's drag rays, because I laugh every time when they go in, they go, I can't sew. I'm like, guys, this thing has been going on for 20 years. Have not learned a bloody sewage.

SPEAKER_03 56:15

And honestly, it's not that hard. Sewing is not that hard. Oh, it's says me. I try to stitch. I well, hand stitching is a pen. We don't do that. No. I can't draw, I can't I can't draw a straight line, I can pattern, I can sew the as I said, the insides is no one's business.

SPEAKER_02 56:30

But they look beautiful. And you and you get to bling, you guys just get to go on and just do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_03 56:37

Absolutely, we can do whatever. There's a couple of rules. So the the main rules for lai tards

The rules on said bling

SPEAKER_03 56:41

is that you cannot have sheer mesh below your bra line.

SPEAKER_02 56:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

There's no cutouts in the midriff slash lower back area. I got in trouble for last year. I'll tell you that story next. No bad. I should. Um President's daughter getting in trouble for a little time. Oops. Um she saw it as her fault. Um she let it pass through.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

You'll be alright.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

Um yeah, so you can't have sheer mesh below the brow line, and any mesh that is below the brow line that is coloured needs to have heavy rhinestoning on it, so you can't see skin through it at all. You can't have a single strapped lair tid, so it can't just be a one side. If you have the look of that, then you need a sheer mesh on the other side.

SPEAKER_05 57:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 57:18

Um, and then our skirts can't be a wraparound style skirt, they have to be like the four-gore skirt that we you see on all of our things. And they can't be see-through, they can't be mesh.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

So it can't be like a like a ballet skirt. Can't be a ballet skirt, correct.

SPEAKER_03 57:30

And it's sewn on, right? Mine aren't. You can. Yeah. So some people do, not as many anymore because you can't sell them on to somebody else once you've seen them. Oh, okay. Because everybody's waste in a different spot. It's very hard to sell that on to somebody else. Um, so I don't. I just own my own skirts and they're separate, and we use the pins on our numbers to course. So that's how you secure it. And the modesty skirt is compulsory, right? It is compulsory and we love it. Oh, you guys love it. We love it. There are so many ladies that say when all the other fizzy were fizzies were only letards that they would come to us because of the skirt.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

Yeah, I'm always this person. I just would refuse to wear a latard because my butt eats everything. I was like, that thing would be up my.

SPEAKER_01 58:08

Oh, mate, you have to put so much fake tan on for me to get out in a latard. Yeah, straight let's do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:14

Yeah, but you're also wearing stockings, but it goes up.

SPEAKER_03 58:16

Honestly, we're wearing so much more clothing to a fizzy comp than we do to a beach.

unknown 58:20

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 58:21

It's so true.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

Well, we've got full pants on, like leggings on.

SPEAKER_02 58:25

Yeah, we we've gone the other way. We're like, I'll just cover everything. We'll just cover it. So can you please tell me the story of how you got in trouble? The president's daughter got in trouble for sheer.

SPEAKER_03 58:33

So my letter

How Nikki ended up in hot water in '25

SPEAKER_03 58:34

had last year, I'll send you a photo, it was beautiful. Um, it was this beautiful deep forest green, um, and it had on the back, it had sort of a ladder design. So there was a green strap and then a shear shear chunk, and there was four of those. And when I made it initially, I was 15 kilos heavier.

unknown 58:48

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 58:50

And so when I put it on different correct, when I put it on when I first made it, it was fine. And I sent it to Loise going, here's my here's my letter. Is this okay? Like, do I get approval from the president? Yeah. She goes, Yep, that's all good. Just make sure you put bling here, here, and here, but you're sweet. Love it. Perfect. I then put it on three weeks before um competition. And as it turns out, when you don't eat cheeseburgers every time you're stressed, do you lose 15 years? What a woman. I have a degree in nutrition, by the way.

unknown 59:19

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_03 59:20

Just a wild concept that you lose all this weight when you stop eating cheeseburgers. Aren't they the best? Yep. Um, yeah. So I dropped back to a size that I was a couple of years ago, which is great. Love that for me, and put it on and went, oh, the whole thing is too big. Um, and so like I was planning last year to go braless because there was a few Chanet hops, and I'd like everything moves. I don't like it. Yeah. So I was trying to go braless and just tape everything down and it'll be fine. Oh, gotcha. Um, because I did that for a wedding I went to, I taped everything down because the dress didn't allow bras. Like, you know what, that's actually really comfortable, and I don't have to worry about the back fat line. It was still a lot of things. It was fun. Um, but then I I did it for this lair, and it was huge. And so I had to pull it like the layer tide at the back was almost to my knees because I had to pull it down so that it didn't look all bunchy and gross. And by pulling it down like that, pulled it below my bra line. And so we had this beautiful move in my stunning rhythm that everybody loved, where we turned around and faced the back and do this nice big side lean. And all you see is my lair tad coming almost down to my skirt line, which is at my waist.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:19

Oh god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

So Louise comes running out after the heat, and we're gonna have to go back out for a semi. She is running. I don't like a woman can run in heels.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:30

I love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:30

So it's it's not unusual for to see her running, but she's got this look on her face. I'm like, what have I done? Did like something pop out? Did I do something wrong? Did I offend someone? Because I often do. Um and she goes, no, no, your left head's illegal. I'm like, is it? Oh God. She goes, yeah, yeah, the whole thing's legal. I need to so we stood there for 15 minutes with safety. And was just folding into weird spots just to try and get it up high enough so that I could go back out for the second. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

Of all things that I have to worry about today, Nicky. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:57

The bloody outfit.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

Correct. And so when we went back for our sectionals the next year, because I did make Town Hall last year, um, we went to the sectional finals. They're like, Are you gonna like sew it to fix it? I'm like, there are so many seams.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

Nah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:11

I am not pulling this apart. I actually found out, I gave it to my auntie legend lover. I gave it to her with a bunch of green rhinestones and just just do it. I don't care. She's like, Do you want it? I'm like, I actually don't care. Yeah, just make sure that it's legal. You make sure it's legal. The back is none of my business, I can't see it. Yeah. And also I will put a brow around because that will give me back some movement. And those two things made it right for the news.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:30

Ah, fantastic. Well, that's lucky because you can't do that in.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

Really can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:34

Um, yeah, we'll see how this one goes.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:36

You can um pick your own colour then. Yeah. If you can make your own, then you could just go to Spotlight and just pick whatever colour you like because you can pick whatever you like in whatever colour you like. Yeah, I don't love all the colours that we have to choose from.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

You have got every bloody colour of the rainbow in that I'm testing them all out.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

You've got to find you've got to find your colour. Like there's times where you pick a colour and you wear it and go, oh, that is absolutely not good. It's like a plenty of box of Skittles. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:03

Rainforest didn't work. Rainforest didn't work? What colour is that? It's like oh sure. There you go. I love that colour. But I understand. I usually love it, but it just didn't. Rain? I and it and it hit me as I was about to march out. So when you want to hear about it. Oh, fuck.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:19

Rainforest isn't my colour.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

I know I've just worked it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:22

Yellow, I love it. That's when you work it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

Someone throw me a pair of pants.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

No, it's it really makes for beautiful letters and it makes for beautiful teams because our teams can do whatever we like as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

Oh yes, the teams do look lovely.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

This is a great segue.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

Segue.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

So what Renee and I really love. So on our early journey of working out there's a thing fizzies, fizzy codes, um, is we watched a lot of um a lot of videos

The GOAT of all Teams

SPEAKER_02 1:02:48

of EPs as a team.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:50

Yeah. Aren't they wonderful? The precision is next level.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

It is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:58

I mean, that's goals. Like that's goals for any code doing teams, but I feel like BJP, we spend so much time focusing on champion lady, which, you know, everyone's got their own little style and we're like slightly veering off the syllabus compared to you guys. Um so that when you get to teams, you've spent all year doing your own thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:25

Yeah, but I think that's where you when you see teams that are so precise, like just how like just how good those teams are to be able to kind of do the flair in Champion Lady and then and the same as you know all the seniors and things, and then come in and be so precise. So from a team's perspective, is it is it different in is there any differences or similarities with the other fizzy codes?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:51

Like what's the I only did one BJP team when I did it, and it was only for a couple of years, it was a thousand years ago. So I don't have huge amounts of knowledge in comparing it to other fizzies. Um but I think because our syllabus is so structured and we have to be at certain places at certain times, teams theoretically are easier for us because we all have to be the same anyway. Yes. Um however, in saying that, Tugra Lakes is a team club. Oh, okay. So what do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:16

So there are what you guys do better. You are no best teams.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

That's exactly right. And we are usually the ones that submit the most teams. Oh, okay.

Clubs that bank on Teams over stars

SPEAKER_03 1:04:24

Because you're the largest club too, right? We're this year we're not 100% sure. Um we were last year. Last year we were the biggest club. Um who's gaining on you? No, Yahweh, they're one behind us. As of this morning, according to the south. It is. According to Louise, as of this morning, we were one registration ahead of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

Guys, come on, recruit. Always recruiting.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:43

But we also know that everyone that's standing in our classes hasn't registered yet. So we're waiting.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

I feel like I'd be up in the newbie's eyeballs going, you're not going anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:53

You'd be like, hi, welcome to class, Jamie. You're ready.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:56

To be honest, when when you guys said biggest club in Australia, whenever you said it, whatever episode it was, I was like, I actually don't know if that was true. And then I got onto Luis Straight, I was like, did were we? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:06

We were there.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:10

So I did double check it and went, oh good, we weren't lying, that's fine. Yeah, we were. Into the 2025, we were the largest um EP club in Australia. Amazing.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:16

So you guys submit the most teams.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:18

Your teams club. So we will have no almost every year we will have one team in every possible section. Yeah. Um, at least one, if not two. Um, and so for our teams, you have to have six. Um, and if you have nine t girls, you can make two teams. So we can double up three girls. Oh, that's nice. When it's six people, then it's slightly easier to make up. You say that, but then we have classes of seven, it's very annoying. Oh yeah. Um, but yeah, six would be easier than eight. Um yeah, so we can double up three in any particular area, and that can be across age groups. It's just so long as there's not more than three people in that team that have done two teams, yeah. Okay, you're set. Yep. Um, we can also borrow borrow between clubs if there's someone that has only done one with their Or they are unused in their club, we can borrow them and come across. So last year we had an intermediate seniors team

EP can borrow for Teams as well

SPEAKER_03 1:06:05

that had our two intermediate seniors, one of our open seniors, jumped down to help us out, and then we had one from New uh intermediate from Newcastle City and two from East Lakes. And so we were sort of the North Coast club. Yes. And we we kind of got all these girls that wouldn't have been able to be in a team and just made sort of a Franken team. Yeah, that's cool. Franken team. That's right. And they were beautiful and came third, and we were so excited for them.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

And this and often they're not practicing together, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:32

They actually I don't know how if I'll get in trouble for this, but one of them that was from East Lake said, I've actually been to more of your classes than mine. Oh no! Um and so but they were She's a phenom then. She was also doing E12 at the same time, so I get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:46

You just do what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:47

You do what you can, that's right. And so she they were great, they were fantastic together. Um, they were all friends too, which helps. Like you've been working, they're all about the same age, they've all competed with each other for years. So they kind of know. That's right, they know each other and they're all good friends.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

I believe there's a few like rules around like uh swapping or like bringing people in from other clubs. It's not that straightforward.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:09

It's it's it is and it isn't. So you can borrow anyone you like, but as the person giving the borrowee, it shouldn't be your best girl.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:17

Yes. So what okay, I'm so excited about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:19

Oh yeah, that's just one of our questions.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

The best girl.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:23

The best girl is based on 2025 results.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:25

Oh, okay. So you out of your club and your section, if you You're only as good as your last beer. Correct. So I was like, how do you determine that?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:37

So in my teenagers at this point, I have seven 15 and 16 year olds, which is a terrible number, and then I have eight 13 and 14-year-olds. So I can't use one of my 15s because she got fifth at Town Hall last year. So she's my best, she's my best. I can't use her, but I can put anyone else down into the 13s and I can bring anybody else up, and then anyone else can double.

unknown 1:07:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:57

So it's your best girl based on 2025 2025 results, and in groups like the 13s and 14s, because our teams are paired, like they're paired groups, they're not individual age groups.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:06

Um, I if if I have a 15 and a 16 that got the same place last year, the 16 is the better. Oh, because the 15's moved up, so she's she's not as experienced in that space. Insert the doo-doo doo doing it. This is why we have this is why we have a rule book that sits on my phone. Oh, you got it on your phone. I do have it on my phone just so I can double check at any point going, Am I actually doing the right thing? Will this pass? And like the board's on it. If you send through checks, we send through our teams and who's in them.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:33

Oh, god, yeah, so we can check it all.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:35

They check it all and tell you you can't actually do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:37

Katie can't be in it. Sorry. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:39

I'm so sorry, but little Susie's got to go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:41

Yeah, yeah, she's banned. Um, and then in your teams, then, is it do you have any creative license? Yeah, so we do we do.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:50

So we make um our march on. So our 64 counts of marching that we do before deportment, that is ours to play with to a degree. You have to have 32 counts in a straight line. Okay. That is non-negotiable, but then you have the eight counts of well, you have the six the six well, what is it? How math. 32 counts outside of that straight line, and then there's 16 counts between those 32 and when the deportment starts.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:14

Right. So you get to So you can play with that as much as you like. And that's judged. Sort of. Right. So they kind of go, it's it's not a hard judge in here it's just like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

It's not gonna get you the win, but it does make a very nice impression.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

Yeah, okay. Well, yeah, w we talk about this in certain things of BJP teams. It's not like technically judge, but you it makes you look good.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:36

Yeah, yeah. And we we do thrive ourselves pride ourselves on getting uh the most interesting mark march-ons. Um and that's usually me playing around with a bunch of.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:45

I was about to say, I heard this is your forte.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:48

It really is. Um and it does depend on the music too. So we play with the music a lot and see if there's things that we can do in terms of shapes and movement that match the music. Um, and it it's because we're a Teams club. We focus all our efforts onto teams because if we all are getting first place in teams, then we are all first place winners.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:04

I I love that. It I kind of felt that last year um our team got second place, and that's as far as I've ever got in physi.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:15

And there's some people that will like I was one of them until I won my like when I won Extended Ladies, I was 20 31. 31, I think. I don't know, somewhere in there. 31, 32. And I have been doing physi for almost 30 years at that point, and I had never I'd made Town Hall once at first 15, and I had never placed above maybe four thirty half class. It's a rough song. So after 30 years of doing individual competitions and not getting the results that everyone expected me to get, because my family were very good at physi. Louise was a senior in placing, Suzanne was a senior in placing, was one of the overall grand champions. My cousin was grand was um in open seniors, sometimes placed, sometimes not, but she was there 90% of the time. And um, so I was kind of the left out one. Yeah, not the two. Which is fine. Like it, I it up ups it did upset me as a late teen. So like 16 to 20, it it upset me because I was sitting there going, like, I'm doing my best. Exactly. And you don't have any sense of perspective at that age.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:12

No, not at all. The winning is the most important part, and then you know, you have a bit of a life experience, and you're like, actually, just being here and using my legs.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

Just existing is kind of important, but being alive is pretty cool. And then I had I had a moment where I was I was 24 and I was on the delightful weight loss drug Jerumine. And so I went from 110 to 79 kilos. Wow. Yeah, crazy. Um, I also now no longer have any glucosamine in my joints, so would not recommend zero out of ten.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:39

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:40

Um, and so I got real skinny and I made this beautiful lear tube that became the reason that the no mesh below the waistline came in. Whoa! But it was me. Um it was it was me and a couple of others. There was a few others on the same year that had done things very similar. Um and so, and it was absolutely stunning, this beautiful deep purple, and um and I still didn't get it. And I I'd done my best and I'd worked really hard and I'd spent extra time with my mum doing private lessons, going, I want to get this right, because if there's ever a point that I'm gonna get it, I'm skinny, I'm flexible, and I'm fit as hell. Yes. Let's do it. On bank and on this year. This is the year, and then I still didn't get it, and that broke me. Absolutely broke me on the inside. Yeah. Um, and then I kind of didn't take the drugs anymore, which was good because you think I speak fast now. Holy mold.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:30

Oh, you're on speed.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:31

Jureminus speed. Which speech and fenomene. So, and I wasn't a lovely person either. If you talk to Louise, that period of my life I was really not a lovely person. Yeah, and so I came off them because I couldn't afford them anymore, they're expensive, and I went from the 79 kilos back to the 110 in three months.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:47

Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:48

And my doctor looked at me and said, Well, it's because you're eating too much, and I said some choice words and walked out. Um he did not get paid. Women's health, right? Isn't it great? Um yeah, so that that putting all that weight back on, and I kind of just looked at myself and like, well, I'm gonna have to keep doing this because I need to do something, I need to move. And at this point, if I couldn't get it then, it's probably not happening to me. And that's actually so fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:09

Oh wow, so that was like a big turning point in the world. It was a big moment for me. Your psychology around it and the way that you thought of what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:15

It turned into the subtle art of not giving a shit.

unknown 1:13:18

Good.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:19

And then you won.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:20

I love that book.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:21

It's so good. Yes, but I think you know, Tina touched on that is when we had her on, is just redefining what success looks like. And as Renee said, it's a hard sport. It's so hard. It's so hard, and being to actually win, you know, even at those top levels, it's crazy. Oh, it is crazy when you think about the amount of people who do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:42

And I mean if I came first place at an interclub, I'd throw an open house party. Everyone's coming here.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:50

It's a good time. No, and I'd see the committed, like we have Melissa Braille at Tugger Legs, and she's the GOAT. She is the only seven-time national champion for EP. Um, we've got a few that can absolutely challenge her that are coming through. They're absolutely stunning seniors, but at the moment she's the only one that has seven national titles.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

I recognised her when I looked her up. Yeah. I was like, I don't do EP, but I Well, she lives down the road, so. Oh, you've seen her on the show. I thought it's like, oh yeah, she must be so fizzy famous. That's why I recognize No, she's just neighbourhood Woolley's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:22

And so you watched the effort that she put in every single lesson, every single year. She was working her butt off. And every single she got something like 33 first place trophies that weren't the open, open, advan, open um, senior grand-grand partner. So she's got a shrine of her. I think so. You'd have to. If she doesn't, she should. But she like she's a legend. And it's and it wasn't because she was naturally gifted at it. She was. She worked her ass off. She worked her ass off. She worked every single, there was not a single lesson that she didn't give 100%. And I sat there going, you know what, I'm not actually doing that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:54

So that's something to yourself, you like. And all the extras you do as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:58

Extras, and she'd go to the gym and she'd work her fizzy out in the mirrors at the gym, and then she'd come back and check things. And she's like except doing strength training.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:05

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:06

And she's she's starting her own legacy. Her mum makes most of the club letards, she's a seamstress. So she does most of our team lets. Um, and her mum did fizzy for a little while. So she got her sister, and then all of their girls are in the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:17

There's so many fizzy families.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:18

And then they roped in like a brother-in-law, like it's crazy. Um, so she's yes, she's exceptional. She's taking a year off this year, which is awesome for her, but yeah, she's incredible, and she'll be back by force, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

I'll try and get her on the show if she's so close. Um, is there anything that you feel like we've missed on EP?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

So either in past episodes or like um, did did I bugger anything massively in the codes?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

I'm not gonna lie, you're saying Edith for an entire episode. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:46

We also just got schooled today of I'm not even gonna attempt it because I'm gonna bugger it. We have got now this run-in list.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

What it because you were saying bajolky. Bajolk bajolky. It's not bajolky. Sure. Yeah, it's bajolky.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:01

So everyone and their dog calls it bajolky, so you're fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:04

I'm like, I'm not European at all. So that one, and yeah, Edith was Edith was good.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:09

I was sitting in my car listening, going, Edith, e def.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:14

So good. Okay, so apart from that, love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:17

Yeah, apart from that was Um, I don't really know, to be honest. Um, I think there was a there was a point a couple episodes ago where you talked about which fizzy was the hardest. Oh, I thought this might come up. Um and

Do we got beef?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:30

I don't disagree that EP is probably the easiest to learn, but I feel it's the hardest to master.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:34

Yeah, yeah. It's like um it's so not probably not the right analogy, but I've learnt this with skiing and snowboarding. Oh no. Where people go, skiing's the easiest to kind of like pick up, but it's the hardest thing to master.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:48

Yeah. So we have this all the time. We'll have BJP girls that have come over just to give it a crack and they'll learn it and they'll go, oh, this is real easy to learn. Then we'll go, yeah, but now you've made 47 technical mistakes and you're only up to count eight.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:57

Yes. So let's and because that's what they're watching, right? That's right. That's what we're watching.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:01

If I say you need a yard, you need a yard. If you're not parallel to the ground, you're wrong. Yeah. One of the like won't get away with it. That's right. Yeah. So last year and the year before, in my teenagers class, we started just be better.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:12

Oh, Peter, you love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:14

Guys, that's wrong with the merch. Honestly, I want to get it tattooed on me somewhere at some point. Yes. Um, so and it got to the point that I didn't have to say it anymore to my teenagers. I'd just turn around when they asked me a question, they're like, just be better. I'm like, yeah, yeah, figure it out. There's nothing I can say, but just do it better. And then the other one is stunning but wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:30

I love that too. We are gonna have to trademark it for we're gonna be able to.

ADPAs gon be out for Renee's scalp

SPEAKER_01 1:17:36

Apta is the definition of stunning but wrong. I'm gonna be in trouble. I didn't do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:44

It wasn't me.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:45

No, it wasn't good.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:46

No, so there's a lot of that. There's a lot of the mastery of EP is something that you can't understand until you do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:52

Because you don't know how much you're doing wrong until you get Louise with a list as long as you're arm, and she beats all of them. She's actually exceptional. Yeah. Louise will watch the floor of 20 girls, and she will have 15 things on each person individually that they are doing wrong. I need we need to be there. Oh, yeah. Do you reckon she'd ever come up with it? Honestly, come watch a class, it's fun. Yeah, we should enjoy it. Yeah. And it's only at Tugra Lakes, where are you?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:13

We're in Berkeley. That's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:15

Hop, skip in a jump.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:17

Oh, there's also a new brewery out there. There is there we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:20

Well, couldn't we just do that? Roll it in. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:23

Come on, honestly, watching her find every single possible mistake is scary. Yeah, um, but it's so it's so invaluable. She's a legend. I love it. Awesome. Um, and it's crazy. And I I aim when I grow up, I want to be her. Um you will be. If I get half of it, man, my goodness. Um, but yeah, I think the reason I started teaching was because she was so good at it, but she only had her viewpoint of it. And my mum, while she's a legend, is this big and she's very little, she's so strong, stronger than any other human in the world. She can just hold her leg at a thigh-high balance and stay there for 15 years. Like she's so strong, and she's but she's little and she's skinny. And so I would be working in, she'd go, we'll just do it like this. And that just did not work for my body. Yeah, yeah. Um, and so I had to learn different ways to make my body move and do what it needed to do to get good at the sport. Yeah, and so I started teaching to be that other body. Oh, I love that. Oh, that's great. So I I can go in and go, okay, well, if that doesn't work for you, that's great. Louisa's probably got three other ways to do it, but if they don't work, come back. Come to me and we'll we'll play around. We'll fix it.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:22

Because I can cheat like nobody's gonna think you're gonna you wait. I'm gonna be you're gonna be on my speed

Computer says no

SPEAKER_02 1:19:28

dial.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:28

When we get so uh sorry to interrupt this scheduled broadcast. Um, you might recall from the start of this episode both Justine and I were living on the edge. Um, so you'll appreciate that when it came time to put all of the episode bits and pieces together, I was just thrilled to find out that our interview with Nikki Gaynor had stopped recording at some point. Um luckily it was at the end, so you got the best of it. I think we went on to talk about potty pics, which we'll put on Instagram. Um, and never fear, we will have Nikki back because she was so easy to speak to, um, so engaging and just such a good sort. Um so bear with us. Uh let's just hope that April is an easier month. Um, and that's life, eh? Uh roll on.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:28

I'm afraid of the dark, especially when I'm in a park and there's no one else around. Wake up the shivers, I don't wanna see a ghost. It's the side that I fear most.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:02

This episode was recorded on Dark and Jung Country. We pay respect to the traditional owners of the lands that we call home. We honor the Dark and Jung elders, past and present. Always was, always will be, Aboriginal land.