Welcome to Eclectic Herbal Wisdom: Meet Chris & Mel

Meet Chris Alstat, owner of Eclectic Herb, and herbal educator Mel Mutterspaugh, two herbalists who found each other through their shared love of plants and are finally sitting down to do what they've talked about for years: share stories, wisdom, and a whole lot of herbal passion. 

In this episode, you'll get to hear from Chris as she shares about her Japanese heritage, the influence her mother's garden had on her childhood, the health crisis that changed everything, and how a chance meeting in Tokyo led her to Eclectic Herb, a 40+ year legacy of organic, freeze-dried herbal supplements rooted in the Eclectic Physicians tradition. Mel shares the moment Lungwort Lichen literally appeared at her feet during every coughing fit from bronchitis. 

You'll hear why they're both obsessed with nervous system herbs right now (hello stress), what it means when plants speak to you, and the one piece of advice they each give over and over. This is science-rooted herbal education wrapped in friendship, stories, and a whole lot of plant nerdery. 

What's in this episode: 

• Why Mel and Chris started this podcast and what you can expect 
• Astrological profiles: How earth and air signs shape their herbal practice 
• Early plant memories: From Japanese gardens to backpacking trails 
• Chris's path to owning Eclectic Herb via healing crisis and chance meeting 
• Current favorites herbs: Milky Oats for chronic stress and Tulsi for daily balance
• When plants speak: Lungwort and Chestnut Bud appearing exactly when needed 
• The most important herb advice: Trust the plants & find what works for YOUR body
• What's coming: Victorian herbal history, astrology, expert interviews 

Herbal Terms in This Episode: 

• Trophorestorative: An herb that nourishes and restores a body system or tissue to normal functionality over time (like Milky Oats for the nervous system) 
• Doctrine of Signatures: A traditional concept suggesting 'like treats like'—the color, shape, or texture of a plant can hint at its medicinal uses (like Lungwort Lichen for lung conditions) 

We'd love to hear from you!  

What early plant memories shaped your relationship with herbalism?  

Have you ever felt guided by a plant or "nudged" toward a remedy intuitively?  

Full show notes & transcript: eclecticherb.com/blogs/eclectic-herbal-wisdom

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:03

Hello and welcome to Eclectic Herbal Wisdom, where we share stories from the roots of plant medicine.

SPEAKER_01 0:09

I'm Mel Mutterspa, clinical herbalist and herbal educator at Eclectic Herb. And I'm Chris Olstha, herbalist and owner of Eclectic Herb. We're so glad you're here.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Whether you're brewing your first cup of metal tea or crafting your own complex herbal remedies, this podcast is for you.

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Any episode will open the pages of Herbal Lore from the archives of the Eclectic Library to the living wisdom of today's herbalist. Together, we'll explore how parts have supported people for centuries and how they continue to do so now.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

You'll find stories, science, and soulful conversations with other brilliant herbalists, all sharing real-world insights you can bring into your daily life and your practice.

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Because herbal wisdom is timeless and it's meant to be shared.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

So come grow with us as we rediscover the living legacy of the plants.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

And I am beyond thrilled to do this podcast here with you now, Chris.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

I know that feels really right. The timing has been building up for a long time. And I'm so excited to be finally doing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Yeah, it really has been building up. It reminds me of like how many times you're like, come visit my library. You've got to see all of these books and these beautiful remedies. And I could never make it to you. Yet now we get to do this podcast together and share all of those books and all of that wisdom with so many other people. So I think it's kind of a win-win.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Yeah, it's super exciting because I've known you for a long time. So it's really nice to sit down and finally do something like this together and share our knowledge and wisdom with everybody.

Astrology And Identity

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Yeah, absolutely. I'm so, so excited about it. So I thought for our first episode, it would be pretty fun to just take some time to talk and let people get to know us a bit. Because if these people are going to be hanging out with you and I, then they might want to know about who we are, why we care so much about the plants and what brought us to this work in the first place, right? Yeah, exactly. Cool. Well, I'm so excited to get to hear more of your story on this episode. And I thought that since we're going to be sharing a lot of herbal astrology throughout this podcast, that it'd be really fun. So to like share one another's signs. So, Chris, what's your sign? I'd love to hear your sun, your rising, and your moon, and what you feel like really clicks with you.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Well, I'm a Taurus and I'm a fairly typical Taurus, loyal, reliable, that slow, steady, hard worker that just keeps plotting towards the goal. I think still Taurus is like luxury. They can be a bit stubborn. I've definitely got some of those traits. My rising is a Libra. Libras are all about social justice and standing up for the downtrodden, which fits me pretty well. I grew up with a single mom. She was Japanese, her English wasn't that good. So definitely felt like we were downtrodden. And I felt like I had to jump to her defense a lot. So I can see where that Libra rising comes in. And then Moon and Virgo, another earth sign, meticulous, detail-oriented. Like to get things done, bit of a perfectionist. Kind of sums me up. How about you, Mel?

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Oh, I love that. That it really makes sense the more I'm getting to know you. So I'm a Libra son, and we Libra sons tend to be charming. I think that the one thing that I really pick up is a bit of indecision. It goes with that social justice. Like we are always wanting to be fair. And so I take a lot of time like assessing this way, and it could be this way, and this way is good for this, and this way is good for that. And then it leaves me wrapped in this world of indecision. My rising, I'm like a half a degree between Scorpio and Libra. I've always thought that I resonated mostly with Libra, but just recently, uh, somewhere I read that I might be a Scorpio rising. And then my moon is in Capricorn. And what I know of Capricorn moons is that they tend to be just natural leaders. And I don't know that I've ever resonated with that in my younger life, but the older I get as I become entering my wiser woman years, I'm like, oh yeah, you are a natural leader. So learning as I go.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

I can certainly see that leadership quality in you. And I think it's great earth and yeah. It seems like a combination of our signs.

Early Memories With Plants

SPEAKER_02 5:02

Yeah, I love it. I love it. So obviously, eclectic herbal wisdom is going to be a podcast about a lot of plant stuff. So I would love to hear from you, Chris, just a little bit of your earliest memories in the plant world and what brought you to the plant world.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

My earliest memories are of my mother. So as I mentioned, she was Japanese and we didn't have a lot of money growing up, but we had this fabulous garden. She did the best that she could. And to this day, she still wins gardening competitions. And that goes back. My grandfather was a champion dahlia grower in Japan. And then my grandmother used to grow garlands of flowers for the temples over there. So we grew up with this fabulous garden that produced a lot of our food. And I just remember things like Japanese pickles everywhere in the house and making things like Nato and the rice cooker. And these things were really unusual. But I think it really introduced me to the world of plants, and that's where I got my first love for flowers. She was a master grower. We had these indoor plants, and she said, This one's quite rare. It's really hard to grow. And then she managed to grow it. And the even the smell of the house inside was full of flowers. That's my first memory of plants.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

How about you? That is so cool. Like it's just a beautiful story, I think. I love I love that connection, even with your grandparents and such. I think that's so beautiful. I think for me, I was the little kid that was always outside playing, making mud pies, kissing worms and frogs, and just getting dirty and muddy. And I was just always obsessed, I think, with nature. But I don't know that I really recognized it way back then. But then as I grew into an adult, I found that like I had to be immersed in nature no matter what I did. And so yeah, I started getting into herbs when I was a backpacking guide and wilderness therapist because I had gone to school for outdoor leadership and environmental and experiential education. And at that point in time, this is the late 1990s and early 2000s, and I was so lucky to be hiking for a living and walking up beautiful mountains and taking these people to places that were very sacred and special to me. And yet they would carry their backpacks and first aid kits filled with toxic, nasty junk. And yeah, who was right. It really, really chopped my hide. And at that point, I just had this dream and this vision that one day we would have natural first aid kits and the backpacks and camping gear of everybody that loved to play outside. And that was like this little seedling of a dream. And little did I know at that time that I was indeed starting my path as an herbalist, whether I liked it or not.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Yeah, that's a cool story.

SPEAKER_02 7:59

Yeah, it's it's been a long journey. So yeah, that's just like I think that's where it began for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

It's wonderful.

A Health Crisis That Changed Everything

SPEAKER_02 8:08

Yeah. So, Chris, I think one thing that's fascinating about you today, hearing of your heritage with your Japanese and New Zealand family. And now here you are, you're the owner of Eclectic Herb. And I would just love to hear a bit more about that story. Like, how did you get to this incredible role with such an amazing company that has such a profound impact on other people's health?

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Well, I remember when I was 19, I had kind of a significant event and I had this pelvic plane. And I remember going to the doctor, and a lot of herbalists have a similar story. But I went to the doctor and the doctor said, Um, there's nothing wrong with you. You've got a bit of a UTI. And I said, Well, I'm in a lot of pain. And then the doctor said, Well, there's some pain meds, and women just have to kind of put up with this, and it's not that bad, so go away. So I called up on Monday, that was a Friday, caught up on the Monday, I said, I took all the pain pills and it's still really painful. And then the doctor said, Well, there's your problem. You took too many pain meds, and that's why you're sick. And I was pretty young, I was a bit of a naive 19-year-old. And then my best friend's mother got concerned and she whisked me off to a gynecologist. And the gynecologist said, You have a like a mass, the size of an orange, and you're gonna have to go into surgery and get that removed. It's on your left ovary. And I'm just like, so I had to go in pretty quickly without having time to think, and then ended up with this like pretty ugly scar on my abdomen. It looked a bit like a C-section scar, but I was pretty young. And they removed an ovary and then peeled the other one. And basically, my fertility was a bit questionable at that point. And I was just left wondering, is there something I could have done differently? And I also didn't like the way that I was treated, didn't like the scar, was very ashamed of it, and I started looking at herbs and different treatments back then. And my journey kind of took me to Japan because I'm obviously of Japanese heritage. And then while I was over there, I met somebody who talked about being a naturopath. And I thought, what is that? So I went back to New Zealand specifically for the purpose of going back to school, went to naturopathic school, and then went back to Japan again, was walking down the street and saw something that I used to teach English to. And he said, What have you been doing? And I said, Well, I went to naturopathic school and I'm a naturopath now. And he said, What's that? And no one had heard of it. And he said, I've built a healing hotel. Do you want to have a clinic in my hotel? And I said, sure. And then started, and he gave me four staff, and he said, Here you go, training as naturopaths too. I thought, okay, I'm not explaining what this is very well. And I felt a bit out of my legs. So I kind of set it up like a spa. We had some herbs, we had flower essences, and then somebody called up one day and said, I think there's another naturopath. He's coming into town, he's staying in this hotel. Why don't you call him up? So I thought, okay. And I called up, and the person was Ed Allstatt, and I'm saying, Hi, are you a naturopath? And he said, Yes. I said, So am I. Do you need any help in Tokyo? And he said, Well, I'm looking for some restaurants. I said, Okay, I'll show you around and went and meet him. And that's how I met my future husband, who happened to be the founder of Eclectic Herb.

SPEAKER_02 11:07

I love that story. I mean, I'm sorry you had to go through the pain of the ovarian cis and that whole kind of traumatic event at such a young age. But I think that you're right, it is a common story, and that so many people are left lacking when it comes to our allopathic medical system and feeling unheard and just automatically given, like, go to surgery, go to surgery. Here's these medications, but there's no true answer to the healing. And the bright side of that is that it does bring people like you to the world of herbal medicine and more natural healing. And I think that's that's the good piece of it, right? And yeah, so I love that you, I mean, I hate that you had to go through the pain, but I love that you are now here today continuing to help other people. And I think that is really, really, truly beautiful. So thank you for continuing with that.

Meeting The Founder Of Eclectic Herb

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Yeah. I think there's lots of women out there and they just they give their power away in that situation, and you don't know what to do. And that's how I felt. And it's it's nice to know that there are other methods, and I'm kind of grateful now. It's part of my story, it's part of who I am, and it brought me on this beautiful journey to this country, and therefore I'm grateful for it and actually thankful today, even though at the time I wasn't. Now I've got a beautiful child, familiar with herbs.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

Yeah, it's always so fun to like just reflect back on those stories, even the hard times. So I would love to hear from you. Uh do you have a favorite plant friend?

SPEAKER_00 12:50

I have many, and my favorite keeps changing. So at this moment, I think it's definitely Milky Oats. What I love about that is I think if you're the type of person that is just chronically stressed and it starts eating away at your soul, and you're just like, oh, I'm feeling depleted. But you try to take a relaxing herb and it knocks you out, so you can't do it because you have to keep going, you have to keep working. Milky Oats is a restorative herb and it just brings nourishment to the nervous system so you can keep going and you actually feel like sustenance from it and you feel nourished. It's for somebody that works a lot, they take on too much and they can just never seem to get a break, and their body won't let them rest. It just kind of resets you gently so you can rest without being one of those herbs that knocks you out and puts you to sleep. So I think it's definitely milky oil. So we used to grow it on our farm and it was it was really cool. You when it's when it's at peak, you would just squeeze the herb and you'd squeeze like this, and it would have this yellow, this white sap that would come out, and that's when it was perfectly ready to harvest. And if you go past that, then it dries up and it's not effective. So we used to take those that freeze-dry them, and it just it keeps the beneficial properties with the herb, and it's like a beautiful way to take it and preserve it. So it's really cool.

Favorite Nervines: Milky Oats And Tulsi

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Yeah, I love milky oats too, and I have always liked that whole process of squeezing that little pod and getting the milky goodness out of there. And I've always taught my students that you would have to do the tincture method with it while it's nice and fresh. And it wasn't until I discovered recently that eclectic herb has freeze-dry notes where I was like, oh my gosh, that's totally a way you can like retain those tropa-restorative properties, those nervous system supportive properties. So I think that's so beautiful, especially for the people that are out there that don't want to have alcohol or can't have alcohol for one reason or another. So I love that. And it is, you know, you said, for somebody that is doing too much or maybe depleted with their nerves. And right when you say that, I'm like, is that every woman today? Or is it just business owner women or you know, mothers, or you know, that's I think a lot of us can relate to that and really benefit from having milky oats in their life. How about you? Do you have a favorite hit? Yeah, I I've got a lot, as you might imagine. Yeah, it's uh it's always such a hard question to answer. But lately, if I have to narrow it down to one, lately I have really been loving Tulsi or Holy Basil. And I feel like I could teach a decade-long class as to why, but I love to have it in a T form because it's simply delicious. I love to have a tincture of it. I love to have the capsules readily available, but it also is incredibly supportive for the nervous system. It's really beneficial for the digestive system overall. And it helps me to just feel a bit more balanced and able to focus when I'm at work. And gosh, it's just a lovely, lovely, lovely plant. I love it so much. Again, I could talk about it for days, but I don't want to overdo it. Maybe one day we'll have an herb of the month that's Tulsi and we can really get down on that. And milky odds for that matter.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

And like you say, it's very good for the nervous system. It's even like the nervous system herbs are what are needed right now. Everyone just totally stressed out.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

I definitely agree with that one. It's like, when in doubt, let's see how you are in your stress levels. Let's work with you in that way. And the great thing about that is like things, well, Milky Oats is something I find is more of a long-term kind of helper for the nervous system. Whereas, like, if I sip something like Tulsi or Linden, I can instantly be like, oh, thank you. That is the sigh of relief I really, really needed. Yeah. We're so fortunate to have so many great plant friends out there, I think. Definitely. They're always so wise, you know, the plants, especially when you take the time to listen to them, to observe them, to cultivate a relationship with them. And I wonder, and maybe you have an answer, maybe you don't, but has there ever been like a really important lesson that you feel you've learned from the plants? I have one.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

It's a little bit esoteric, but I think if they come to you in a dream, or if if they come to you in some way that's a little bit different, maybe listen to the message. I feel like there was one herb that my late husband showed me. He showed me it once. And then I was out walking in the woods and I had a thought of it. And then I looked down and there's the herb at my feet. And I thought of him. I thought, is he trying to send me a message from the other side? I thought that was kind of cool. And then there was another type, this was a flower essence, but I kept persistently dreaming about chestnut bud. Chestnut bud is for someone who fails to learn the lesson, and then life just keeps putting that lesson in front of them over and over. And I thought that was pretty cool. I dreamt about chestnut bud. I didn't listen to the dream. I should have gone out and taken the flower essence chestnut bud. At that point, I went out and took it and then thought, yeah, then why does life keep showing me the same? So I'm just not learning.

Listening To Plants And Lessons Learned

SPEAKER_02 18:27

That's that's really funny. Like, I the lessons to be learned when you were saying that, I was like, gosh, apparently I need some chestnut bud or something. And like when I think about lessons that the plants have taught me, the story is very similar, is that they are there for you when you need them, if you take the time to listen. And it takes me back to like one of my first herb walks with an elder herbalist. And they had taught us about the doctrine of signatures on that trail. And I had learned about a lichen. So technically not a plant, but fungi and algae coming together and taking a lichen to each other. And I definitely spent time teaching kids outside, and sometimes those silly little things will come out and about. Often, actually, not even sometimes. But, anyways, the lichen was lungwart. And I had gone to my first like herb conference where I was like, oh my gosh, these people are amazing. It was a Brighton Bush herbal conference. Oh, I love those. They're the best. Let's make it happen again. Please. Anyways, it it was amazing. And I went to that and I was like, oh my gosh, these are my people. This is like something I want to do. And I immediately enrolled myself in my first like in person herb school. And a few months later, maybe like three or four months later, I had gotten my first case of bronchitis ever. And I am the type of person I get really miserable if I don't get to go outside. Like if I miss a day of outside time, I'm like, what is wrong with me? Why am I so mad at the world? And I wasn't able to go outside for like three weeks. And my partner, also named Chris, was like, hey, let's go to the river and see if you can like walk around. And we went to the Salmon River up in the foothills of Mount Hood, Oregon, where I live. And I remember like I was still very sick. And I would take five or 10 steps and I would have to stop to catch my breath. Or I would just be like coughing really hard to the point that I'm hunched over. And each time I would do that coughing, there would be a lot more lichen at my feet. And I probably did that somewhere in the realm of five to 10 times before I was like, hey, this thing might be talking to me.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

Oh, wow. That's so cool.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Absolutely. And then I just took a little bit of it home and I made a little tea. And I drank that tea. And within 30 seconds, I was able to take my first deep breath in over three weeks since I had gotten the blood.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Oh, that's amazing. I love stories like that.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Yeah, I do. Like the realness. And just again, it goes back to that piece of like those plants are here to teach us. I think United Plant Saver shares a sticker. I actually have it on my computer right now. If you listen, they will teach you. Oh, that's beautiful. Isn't it? And I'm not sure if it's rosemary that maybe said it or not, but just a beautiful lesson. And there's so much truth in it, as you shared. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Lovely. I think sometimes when you're starting out with herbs or being a beginner herbalist or something like that, it's hard to find the confidence to believe in the plants, especially if you grow up in a very much allopathic family or something like that. So I think it's important to have trust in the plants. It's like the oldest form of medicine on the planet. Every culture has had a history of using plants. And so you have to believe in the power of the plants, too. I think it's important. And confidence in yourself to take them and heal yourself.

Practical Advice For New Herb Lovers

SPEAKER_02 22:10

I think that is a very true perspective. And on that, like it's what derives a bunch of skepticism in the world of herbal medicine today. You know, the allopathic world came around and took things by storm. And, you know, we all started to quickly rely on the instant fix pills and these cute little, we got you covered right here. A lot of this wisdom of herbal medicine was erased from our history from our history, essentially erased from our history for quite a while. And it's so lovely to see the resurgence of this information happening today. I'm so grateful that you and I get to share these kinds of things on this podcast and with the guests that we're going to bring in and to learn from all of those brilliant people is just it's magic and powerful. And it needs to happen. And so to have that immediate confidence in the plant medicine without having a little bit more trust and knowledge, like I understand where people do lack that, you know, it's not what we're necessarily raised with today. I was not raised with it. And I am so grateful that the plants were like, hey, you, you're coming with us. You're going on a journey with us for the rest of your life. So I think that's that's really fun. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really curious. Do you ever find yourself giving herbal advice to people? And if you did, do you find one thing other than this one we just chatted about, the lessons they've taught us? What do you tell other people over and over about herbs?

SPEAKER_00 23:53

I think the biggest thing is if I'm outdoors and if I'm on a walk, I get a bit nutty. I'm sure you'll like this as well. But you walk, you see all the plants everywhere. Like you see here in the Pacific Northwest, there's lots of metals around, and there's like in the spring, and then hawthorn, elderberry, and it's just beautiful to see them all. So I think the biggest piece of advice I give is how to pick your own herbs, and how so many of them are just foods, even especially in spring when you come up with like the minus lettuce and the chickweed, and you can pick the metals and you can steam them, and there it's just an abundance of food and medicine out there around us that people just aren't even aware of. So people are just walking and not even aware. They're on their phones, they're listening to music, and then just everything around. So I like to point out all the plants growing, just generally in nature. Might be a bit annoying for people because I'm pretty slow to walk with, but I think it's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

I want to go on a plant walk with you, Chris. I love it. We should do it. Let's make it happen. Absolutely. We should do them on a regular basis. Honestly, like at least quarterly would be a fantastic thing to do. I just did a plant walk in my community last weekend, and it's the fall right now. We're recording this in November. So the things like the nettles and the miners lettuce are definitely asleep at this moment in time, but there's still so much medicine. And it was so funny before I was getting ready to do the walk. I told my partner, like, oh, I've got to, you know, check my notes and make sure I know what I'm talking about. He just laughed. He's like, anytime we go outside with you, you're like, oh, they're schmikatoo bottomita. And that was way of like the Latin names that I'll spout out when I go on a walk. And yeah, I know like it's been so long since I've taken people on an herb walk. And it was it's such an intoxicating feeling to do to share that information with people, and they're so thrilled to learn it. So I love that's the piece that you would give to people of their advice, like get to know the plants around you.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

How about you? What's your greatest piece of people advice that you like to give people?

What Excites Us About This Show

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Yeah, I don't know if I like to give it, so to speak, but it is one that I give often because it is so important. But not every herb is going to be for you. And what herb works for you or your sister or your mother or your neighbor Linda or your uncle Jack is not necessarily going to be the herb that works for you. And they're not always going to work the same with everybody. And as we see this beautiful resurgence of herbal medicine, there becomes a lot of poor information online, and it becomes really hard for people to navigate through. And if not hard, kind of dangerous. So just remembering, like you were saying pick the herbs for you, and you were speaking about going out on the walk and getting to know these plants. And immediately in my head, I was like, well, pick the herbs that work well for you and don't just believe what you see on social media or even what we're saying here. Like we might talk about an herb and bring up things that it does for us for you.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

Okay, so John's hold take that for depression. It has a lot of other properties as well. So things like that drive me nuts to yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

I bet we could bring it on that for a while. Sure is a good thing we podcast. Love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. So yeah, we do have this podcast, and I am so thrilled because I know we're going to, as we get like cozy here and we're sharing a little bit about each other and getting to know, wanting to get to know those that are listening to us. I would love to hear some other things from you, Chris, that make you really excited about this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

I'd love to share what I know about who's been immersed in the herbal world for such a long time, and to be in a company where I make remedies every day, grow the plants, harvest them, see what they look like in the different stages. I'd like to share some of that with everybody. I think also some astrology things. Maybe someone will have something that can help them. I think that's what I'm excited about. Oh, and my library, I forgot about my library. I have an amazing, incredible library. It's a herbal library that has all the eclectic position books in it and some historical things like call paper, lots of things from the Victorian times, and some of the knowledge from that library I would love to share as we go on.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

Yeah, those things really excite me too. Like, really specifically, is the history of herbal medicine. And I know that you're very, very into that. And so I know I'm going to learn a ton in these conversations with you. And I'm rather obsessed with learning about herbal medicine and with sharing it. So hearing those historical aspects is going to be really, really fascinating to me, and finally getting to dive into those books that you've been inviting me to for so long.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

So many people have been just forgotten to history. So I have an incredible library. There's some videos of it on social media, but a lot of people in those books. Some of the women, some of the first female doctors, female published, from Victorian times, the voices to bring them back, things like that would just be really exciting for me.

Community Invitations And Next Episodes

Closing And Important Reminder

SPEAKER_02 29:24

Yeah, I'm really thrilled for that too. And the astrological pieces. Like I've always been a distant astrological lover, like really fascinated by people's signs and things like that. But to bring the herbs into it makes me so excited. So yeah, how fun. I am absolutely thrilled to be here and that you came up with this idea for this podcast. And for the listeners, for those of you watching this, we would love to hear from you what you want to hear on this podcast. Because another thing, just to interrupt my own self, very excited about in this podcast, are the guests that we're gonna bring on, because they all share so much wisdom and knowledge that you're sure as heck never gonna get from Chat GPT. Like there's so much to be said about people that actually work with the plants and understand them and work with people and the land and all of that. So yeah, some of the things that get me really, really excited. Yeah. So in a nutshell, that is a quick intro to me, a quick intro to Chris, and would love to hear more from you guys as we continue to share stories, hear again what you want to hear about, and hope that you love the show. Thanks, everybody. Yeah, thank you so much, guys. We'll see you again soon. Also, don't forget to follow us at eclectic herb on social media. We're on Instagram, we are on TikTok and Facebook and all the places. Of course, you can head to eclectikerb.com. And then in our next episode, what are we talking about, Chris? Okay, yay! Yeah, our next episode is all about our herb of the month. So, yes, you will be hearing about those things, and we will also dive in very, very soon to our Sagittarius season episode. So thanks again, everybody. Thanks, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in to Eclectic Herbal Wisdom. We're so glad you spent this time with us. If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love it if you share it with a friend who might appreciate it as well. And if you have a moment, leaving us a review really helps other plant lovers to find the show.

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