חינוך בצדק (3): בין האידיאל החינוכי למציאות הקונטקסטואלית

צבי: "אנחנו תחת בתי ספר שמטרתם המרכזית הוא לא לשרת את האדם, אלא לשרת את הריבון וצרכיו"

יהודה: "לא ייתכנו אלפי סיטואציות חינוכיות שאינן משרתות את הריבון אלא מסייעות לקידום האדם? אתה תסכים איתי שכן, נכון?"

הפערים בין האידיאל החינוכי לבין המציאות הקונטקסטואלית — מי אחראי ולמה שינוי אמיתי כמעט בלתי אפשרי. 

חינוך בצדק, הפודקאסט של בית ספר מנדל למנהיגות חינוכית בקרן מנדל-ישראל.

בחינוך בצדק, ד"ר יהודה מיימרן וד"ר צבי בקרמן משוחחים על עולמות החינוך והלמידה בהקשרים של צדק. זוהי שיחה מתמשכת, פתלתלה, מצחיקה ולפעמים מעט עצובה על הנושאים הקרובים כל כך לליבם של צבי ויהודה.

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SPEAKER_01 0:11

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SPEAKER_02 2:33

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SPEAKER_01 4:48

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SPEAKER_02 7:43

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SPEAKER_01 9:48

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SPEAKER_02 16:13

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SPEAKER_01 18:15

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SPEAKER_02 22:01

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SPEAKER_01 22:17

Dialogue.

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SPEAKER_02 29:30

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Lama Kevin Sugal.