חינוך בצדק (5): חינוך, ריבון וחופש מדוד

יהודה: "לכל בית ספר, סמוי, לא סמוי, גלוי יותר, גלוי פחות, יש איזו אג 'נדה, יש איזו מטרה"

צבי: "כשאדם שואל מהם המטרות הראויות של החינוך של הילדים, השאלה שמייד צריך לשאול זה, מי רשאי לקבוע? "

בין ריבון שמארגן ומסווג לבין ילד שלומד תמיד נמצא המורה שיודע שהוא אינו חופשי, ובכל זאת פועל. 

חינוך בצדק, הפודקאסט של בית ספר מנדל למנהיגות חינוכית בקרן מנדל-ישראל.

בחינוך בצדק, ד"ר יהודה מיימרן וד"ר צבי בקרמן משוחחים על עולמות החינוך והלמידה בהקשרים של צדק. זוהי שיחה מתמשכת, פתלתלה, מצחיקה ולפעמים מעט עצובה על הנושאים הקרובים כל כך לליבם של צבי ויהודה.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:10

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SPEAKER_00 0:36

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SPEAKER_01 1:41

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SPEAKER_02 15:37

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SPEAKER_01 18:04

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SPEAKER_00 19:26

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SPEAKER_01 19:35

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SPEAKER_02 19:37

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SPEAKER_01 20:51

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SPEAKER_02 21:44

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SPEAKER_00 21:54

Uto ya da.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

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SPEAKER_01 23:34

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SPEAKER_02 24:23

Habal Shim Shahta illa pitarone. No, no, nailekalam. Lulaita Mathil, but so deck, in the opsibache litalemi colour yofish, tikva. Viv la cash at Morim Berea Damber Tino It Malasot, the Shimonskim callem, omrimlot tikva. So tikva caramba, but se m'a fienba t'as not yeshbalasot. So, yeshbalas. Putta yevshar, the cache, ze la kni shaba, ta bathil met la kharsha manu, dim si the local bo, meam seina, culla she kolka feti yarta, bo dire, mamore, kolka har be malaso, the lo shaser balaso. A sim ma clot begalgale amangenonim the colka, can be shilze shironia, sh will ze kolbine varim, colbine balakim manim, ken be yafim.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Begalgalea, the strategia. Ken abangonimlo kh.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

Mura, ithila et lobe to groa, stumoratef share bechlet, le stakeel shav law al echitrila shio, ella makarame otoregashebo yele de mar, epota ainara, zarega sheboa mura, yochola, bechlet, bechlet, andilote bagelgalim, la kahatashiu elea vela sodbu kirzona, vele not me meno velenot mailadim, veli caneslatoh la thila sot is a shiva dim to feszehakimze, the kilo mash echol yaot me odnehmad.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Asotomerichiesh ve as the as a bonk nechlash.

SPEAKER_00 27:14

Atan ni fulolo medaberatal im nechlash ribon, or mehuzakaribon yoter ech a regasebakita or fekliotmashmautil la moiv la yeladim, veasha meziu pitwoshele ki la tutktena kazo tia kru intimity kh.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

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SPEAKER_02 28:56

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SPEAKER_01 30:38

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