The Mindset Economy
From the creators of the successful Evolving Leader podcast, comes their new show The Mindset Economy.
The central question this show explores is:
How will we work, live, and belong in a more uncertain world, where machines can think?
The hypothesis behind the show is that as quantitative work - routine, low cognitive work - is automated, Human Advantage will come from qualitative work - creativity, judgement, social intelligence etc. This show explores the changes taking place; how leaders will respond to creation of the new economy being ushered in by the mass adoption of AI, and how we can accelerate Human Advantage.
The Mindset Economy will feature a broad diversity of voices: from leaders at the edge of this transformation to performance scientists and AI thinkers and social philosophers.
Episodes
25 episodes
'Solutions Won't Come From Those Who Created The Problem', Leo Anthony Celi (Summer Edit)
Dr. Leo Anthony Celi thinks half the deans at universities and half the seats in health ministries should go to young people, and he's got a story to back it up. Back in 2022 during a basketball game that was taking place at the Moda Center in ...
'What Are The Four Real Futures?', Sarah Housley (Summer Edit)
COVID forced fast, sweeping change in a way almost nothing else has, and design futurist Sarah Housley says the reason why is worth understanding properly. Talking on The Mindset Economy podcast, Sarah explains the Overton window, t...
'How To Become Less Dogmatic', Leor Zmigrod (Summer Edit)
Leor Zmigrod won't hand you a five-step plan to become a more flexible thinker, because that would just be another rigid system to follow. Instead she offers two things worth sitting with: question the rules and routines that quietly narrow you...
'What Does Work Look Like In Five Years Time?', Ja-Naé Duane and Steve Fisher (Summer Edit)
Five years from now, organisations will look smaller, portfolio careers will be normal again, and your employer will have a far better read on your mood than you'd probably like. If you listen to episode 5 of The Mindset Economy podcast, you’ll...
'The ROI Of Complaining', Chris Hirst (Summer Edit)
Complaining feels productive right up until you realise it's getting you nowhere, and during his conversation with Mindset Economy co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender, guest Chris Hirst breaks down what he calls the ROI of complaining. His a...
'Learn To Recognise The Signals', Mithu Storoni (Summer Edit)
Mind wandering isn't a sign you're slacking off. On The Mindset Economy podcast, Mithu Storoni explains it's actually your brain telling you it needs a break, and reaching for coffee instead of listening to that signal has consequences you won'...
'Create High Quality Conversations', Amy Edmondson (Summer Edit)
Most conversations inside your organization don't meet a basic bar for quality according to Amy Edmondson, and during episode 4 of The Mindset Economy podcast she'll tell you exactly why. Amy lays out three things that separate a genuinely usef...
'Four Ways To Enhance Metacognition', Nicholas Wright (Summer Edit)
Winston Churchill packed one and a half working days into every single day of World War II and still made time to reflect. In episode 8 of The Mindset Economy podcast, guest Nicholas Wright walks through a handful of historical examples that sh...
'Building Humbler AI', Leo Anthony Celi (Summer Edit)
In 2026, AI is mostly being used to retrieve information faster, and during his conversation with Jean Gomes on The Mindset Economy podcast, Dr. Leo Anthony Celi shares that that's a massive waste of what the technology could actually do. He wa...
'What Hope Actually Means', Sarah Housley (Summer Edit)
"People are not excited about the future anymore." That's the opening line of design futurist and guest on The Mindset Economy podcast Sarah Housley's book Designing Hope, and it's where this conversation starts. She talks through w...
'What Is An Ideological Brain?', Leor Zmigrod (Summer Edit)
Forget fascism and communism for a second. Leor Zmigrod studies ideology as a way of thinking, not a specific set of beliefs, and that reframe changes the whole conversation.On The Mindset Economy podcast, Leor explains what actually mak...
'We're Solving 21st Century Problems With 20th Century Mental Models', Steve Fisher and Ja-Naé Duane (Summer Edit)
Leaders are being asked to solve problems from this century with mental models built for the last one, and talking on The Mindset Economy podcast futurist, innovation leader and co-author of SuperShifts Steve Fisher tells us that makes that poi...
'Strategy Is Overrated', Chris Hirst (Summer Edit)
'Whatever you do, don't turn up and be yourself.' That line got Chris Hirst plenty of grief on social media, but he stands by it. Appearing as a guest on The Mindset Economy podcast, Chris tells us that he can't stand the phrase 'au...
'Why The Brain Can't Work Like A Machine', Mithu Storoni (Summer Edit)
Your brain isn't a muscle, but we've been running our workplaces as if it were since the 1950s. Neuroscientist Mithu Storoni traces that mistake back to the Industrial Revolution, when the idea of efficiency got applied to assembly lines and th...
'What Psychological Safety Actually Is', Amy Edmondson (Summer Edit)
Psychological safety isn't about being nice, it's about permission for candour. In this short extract taken from The Mindset Economy podcast, Amy Edmondson (who built her career studying psychological safety) explains why. Learning is never com...
How the Brain Shapes War and War Shapes the Brain with Nicholas Wright
How much of global conflict is driven by our own biology? In this episode of The Mindset Economy, we are joined by Dr. Nicholas Wright to examine the "brain-war" connection through the lens of neuroscience and military strategy.We explo...
'How to Stop Automating Broken Healthcare Systems' with Leo Anthony Celi
AI is not failing because of bad technology. It is failing because of bad questions.Dr. Leo Anthony Celi, critical care physician and researcher at MIT, has spent ...
'How To Lead When Nobody Knows What’s Coming' with Chris Hirst
What does leadership look like when nobody really knows what’s coming next?In this episode, Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are joined by ChrisHirst, former global CEO and leadership advisor, to explore how leaders andindividuals m...
How To Stay Human While Technology Shapes the World with Ja-Naé Duane and Steve Fisher
The rules that got you here may be the very thing holding you back.Ja-Naé Duane and Steve Fisher call them super shifts, fundamental changes so significant that many of the assumptions underpinning how we work, lead, and create value ar...
How To Create Conditions That Maximise Human Impact with Amy Edmondson
Most leaders say they want candour. Almost none of them have it.Amy Edmondson, Harvard professor and the world's leading researcher on psychological safety, argues that the problem isn't culture, it isn't trust, it isn't people. It's th...
How To Create Hope with Sarah Housley
The greatest risk of the AI era may not be losing our jobs. It may be losing our ability to imagine something better.Futurist Sarah Housley has noticed something troubling. As AI advances and change accelerates, many people are ex...
How to Keep Your Mind Open with Dr Leor Zmigrod
Intelligence does not protect you from dogmatism. In some cases, it makes it worse.This is one of the more unsettling findings to emerge from the work of Dr. Leor Zmigrod, neuroscientist at Cambridge and author of The Ideological Brain....
How to Stop Treating Your Brain Like a Machine with Mithu Storoni
For more than a century, humans have tried to mimic machines. First with our bodies, then with our minds. It hasn't served us well.Mithu Storoni, neuroscientist and author of the Business Book of the Year 2025, wants to change the way l...