مشورة

فن الإصغاء.. هل نسمع أم ننصت؟ - برنامج مشورة الموسم الثاني مع ياسر الحزيمي | الحلقة الثالثة والعشرون

مشورة Season 2 Episode 23

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فالإصغاء جسرٌ للفهم؛ فهم الآخرين وفهم الذات.

مهارة تقرّب الناس، وتؤثر في القلوب، وتبني الكثير من الدروب. لكن في عالمٍ مليء بخطف الأضواء والتنافس على لفت الانتباه، غالبًا ما يتراجع الفهم.

في هذه الحلقة نتحدث عن فن الإصغاء، وعن الفرق بين السماع والاستماع والإنصات والإصغاء.
فالسماع عملية ميكانيكية قد يدخل فيها إلى أذن الإنسان ما يريد وما لا يريد، بينما الاستماع قرار يختاره الإنسان بين المنبهات من حوله. 
أما الإنصات فهو درجة أعمق من الاستماع؛ سكونٌ للجوارح وهدوءٌ يفتح باب الفهم.

والإصغاء هو ميل الجسد والاهتمام الكامل بالمتحدث.
كما نتوقف عند فكرة أن الاستماع الحقيقي لا يقتصر على سماع الكلمات، بل فهم ما وراءها؛ فالكلام فيه منطوق ومفهوم، والمستمع الجيد يدرك ما خلف الكلمات والمشاعر التي تحملها.

وتتناول الحلقة كذلك مراتب الاستماع؛ من التجاهل، إلى التظاهر بالاستماع، إلى الاستماع الانتقائي، وصولًا إلى الانتباه ثم الاستماع التعاطفي الذي يُعد من أعلى مراتب الإنسانية، حيث يحاول الإنسان أن يستشعر موقف الطرف الآخر ويضع نفسه مكانه.

كما نتحدث عن أثر الأحكام المسبقة في تعطيل الفهم، وأهمية إعطاء المتحدث قيمته واحترام حضوره. فربما يكون هذا الحوار هو اللقاء الأخير بيننا، وربما تكون لحظة الإصغاء الصادقة بداية لعلاقة أجمل وأعمق.

حلقة تناقش أيضًا أسئلة مهمة:
كيف نصغي للآخرين بصدق؟
ومتى يكون التعاطف مفيدًا ومتى لا يكفي وحده؟
وكيف نتعامل مع الأشخاص الذين يكثرون من التفاصيل أو يجدون صعوبة في التعبير؟

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We have to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_03

What happened in? What happened in? What happened in? What happened?

SPEAKER_06

But I know what my girl was name and a spoken.

SPEAKER_03

Well inside deraja tunak. Bus in the testem el mutadit. Al istima Karar Tajinnub Jamia Mushat Utterkiz al Sotwahad. Fahia Amalia Maksoda Akliya. Almunabiat Halek Wattukar and Testament alwahadmanhan. Tulgilbagi Utrakisfiwahat had estima. Al Insat Raliban Yati Baadaba Aw Baada Harak. What didalki kula Azzawajel? Waid Sarafna Ilaikanafaram min aljini yestamiun al Quran Falam Mahavaruhu Kalu Ansit Al Insat Sukunul Jaware Ta Mahwal Isra Al Isra Mailumbil Jased. Fain mal Jasaduk The Khalti Mal Halatil Isha Fa'indanasama Tikar Sot Bilakast Fum Mustimah Illun Tah Minhadil Aswat Sot Fa'in Hadat Jawariq Aktir Hudu anusukunan the Khalti Marhatil Insat Fa'in Milta Ila Master Sot Fahadhul Isha. Al-Istimah Ayadun Isharatun ilal Htimam Tlamatpanishni Intilatembi Lamalatis Mahaditi Intilatem bi Alami, Wala Ahlami, Wala Afkari, Wala Ahzani, Wala Al Fabri, Fadanu Amminat Tahmish, Aladilayar Dat Tarafil Akhar. Al Udun Alway, Hiat Tariq al Aqsar, Likalbil Insan, Andima, Yesma, Weiltakat, Tilkil Isharat, Tilkil Hamhamat, Tilkil Alfab, Wa Krama Banas Satur, Wayakrama Half in Nas, who al Lidiyam Tilikil Muayar al Alia, Wutta of Il Jamil, Mal Akarin, Laytajil Insan Ma'a, ilutasrih, utasrih, hadtayufhan.

SPEAKER_00

Matilwald Timam, Idahi Rabi Anni Muratayibhas Alan at Nidinihas.

SPEAKER_03

Shefal istima Lima wara al Kelimat, Hadanua Ami Kjiddin, Wara ki jiddin, Taramudai Miliga Gulik Shay, Yibrahil Kelma. L'anal Kalam, Fihil Mantuk or Fihil mefum, Al Kalamufi Lukatil Arab, Mantokun Wam of whom Atikmital, Haluj Fikita billahi, Jalla Jalalhu, Ayah, Tadul Ala Anar in Sam, Maya Drab Obuhumma Fiaya Laujid Aya. Wala kinallah Azu Jalkal, Fala Takullahuma, Offin, Wala Tan Harhuma. Fahad al kalima al mantuka of Tadulu ala shayimin ahar anama huwa alamuf aidan haram. Fel kalamu mantuk u mafum. Felmayati ahadigulik shay terkal fahad al mantuki mafum, evidentligatil mafum, gidar tatafa almawta ta'am al ma'buki, ukum ta mustemi an Jaidan al Musema al Jaid Yefamawara al Kalimat. Lakanhal istima Martaba wahida al Jabla, Heyamajmu atmarat, wahat, Martabalula, he martebatut tajahul, whoa ta'mmud adam al istima Tammud Tajahul Tagranigat al Musran, Mamala Ajid Anamanias Mali, Wala Ajid Manusrili, Fashurbinur Min Adam al Hamia, Lambalatl Tarf al Akhar, Adam Liktirath, Kulwa Ashia, Tukhi Masha'ri, Fahtar Alla Atakillim, Allah an Atakillem, Wala Ahad Yasmali.

SPEAKER_06

Alabatir Nafsi, Shahs, Muraqizl Kenimat, Limawala e Klimat, Hinaq the Al Gaz, Id Antra, Fadim Walk.

SPEAKER_03

What Tajahal noen, Imma and Ya Tajahal, Bimahakhut Tajahul, Waimma and Ya Tajal Bishai, Limujarit Teshahul, Lematkilimahad, Wana Gatashufu Gathaul Yangishil Al Khert allify Toba, Madesh Wamun Shagil Bishhe, La is Takal in Shahal, Anna Ida Shiftwahad Bah Tarika Yajban Ascut, Lamami, Mutajahil Temaman, Ahadum yet tajalakin bi Karaatrisala Jawal, Yani Hadi Akal Alakal in Shahalaw, Tajahalakarami, Ila Sheyin, Alalakalfi Maslahatu, Fet Tijahul Nur, Mma Fih Sheilah, Hona Yjban Asmut, Of Shay Yes Teku Bitali Ascut L Alat Tar Akab, Yentaim Maushraletuma, Yan Tabheli. Had the Nord Aww, At Tajul, and Nur Athani, Wat Tarah, Any Taraharl in Sanb, Imma Mujbar, O Mujamilan, O Muta Atifan, Wa Tarahar and No Is Temeli. Akin Ahyanisil Muncharil Hyanan Mushatat Ayanan Aslan Huwa Muncharil Bihwar Dahili Fahada Yatarahar and No Yustameli. Fin no Ali Ahseman Wahul Mustawa al Intikai Wal Mustam al Intikai Illi Ismaqadisma Ismaqal al Ma al Adza aleti to himhufi hadithik. Fahuala yatafal illa indal asha aleti to nasub or letium in hetimam. La yuhimmuhu, fil hadith mashar kuhtimamatik la knihumhu fil hadith ehtimamatu mashar. Fayakfiz, wa raqis, we sahithik, wa yesalik, fima you read, la fima to read.

SPEAKER_07

Ananafsusha any lam my kunfi hadith mum anama ekter asmani fajat mobul mumhum anam fajat mini chet ma magdart asma mother.

SPEAKER_03

Wahuna kathir minan nasfiadal mustawa. Kathirman nas and titsolif metan. Togulart nowena uligena sayara sadma hadith kibir umranem andl jembalmatamflani of the halt matilani male gadagulukil hadith, gadagulukna ben sharna, gadagulukhnem salatna musriba, kil hadamak hemma kil matam. Tet and the baban mas yetafal da kal hadithik bin tika mimma Yhatem mubihi walaise mimma, you shriuk ant, had a wahadman mustawayat el mustawa, al in tikai wa the sarahas luk, muz e jiddin, eda canut tarafilli maak, sadiik, au zojja, au zouj, au ach, au ab, au um, au ibben and tady ma'abha tariqa wa daim, you maris listima al inti kai binisbeti li haditi kema. Wal mustawal afdalmen, w mustawal intiba. Felayudhir, I no minute ta' of inemayintiba, yestima, low ultelahu aed ma cults say read laakin hulu one minal mashar. Wa kannnik a maam tabib gad to gulemushkiltik, who ga adisegil, bikulter kisbess huager mutefahem out muste erli mokafik. Haiu minhu, who alistima at ta'at of takamas. Mustawat takamas, wamin ala mustawayat al in sanifilestima, and tisteshir mofa parfil akhar. Lamit kalimli and shafurhan, ajanfsi abtisimlashuri, lemait had ditli kefa hua uherj ashurbiani harara tadl heraj, lemait hadith an alem, fan ashurfida khilibi marara, kamaya shurhua, wahadi a la maratablistima.

SPEAKER_04

And fi and this ol and lihu taut of hell uh l tat of yetab asmasfadze my guilt, well mumkinikun hajas albia, and fina's met and t shkilakir uh mumkin zikun wea mum telaka salbi further nafsifik.

SPEAKER_03

Fahel minal matlumni in it out of ma ta sukraik and ta'out of shain, fira tamiya, wa head, al iktifa but ta'out of adhata uh ta'out of macubasan barba marah and yet out of mak as eluk and to fasil hadith elisarlik from badalic would jiha naden fima felt wanna say hafima satifad a liktifa bit ta'out of fakot like hul mashak dunya hal had an no sahell jobla Madaj Ila Sabur Taj Aristima Taj Sabur Ahamel Ashia Ida Matusbur Bitsekib Zemat Sekkib Ay Mahta Matabra Bher Mohem Tawil Mumel Laitanas Mahtimamek Nahian Jessama Hadin Sekba Basumahtivi, Basen Adnisma, Halas, Natadahar, U Mashi, Al Istima Alfa Al Wal Muathar, Yabda Bas Sabr, Tayib Karfamusel Sabr Indi, Makola Daiman Nitkurha, Ebenal Jozir Himallah Ya Kul Mantabassar Tasabar, Al Istima Mujid Akhar Minil Hadith. Mujid Lenil Amiliat Laklian and Titstihdim hatna Alistima Kifir Jiddin Alfers at Turkez Muhawalit al Fahim at Tokit Damil Amamekil Tabir al Waj, Muhawlit Adam, Al Mukata, Kebjimah Nefs and Tatibua Watuqata willsahul testedric will kitr. Shiflemanta, suksayara, tumsikhat, caf in teru waged, willemitkun interraqib, daimal in san Iliakud Il Mashad, Fia Alakati Muayana, Yes Temta Akhtar, Munasal Akhar, Wakadalika, Fiamalyat al Hihwar, Lit Killem, Ashal Alahman and Yakuna Munsa Jayid. Alwahdeman l-ashia litusama, or istima bishaqal Jaidl Acharin. Isn't Hua Izahat al Aqkam al mabdiya. Isma'alikid damik, waqa us dakunnas. Labas, isma'a waqanik awul marat chofa. Isma'awa kan who wachir kalimat saykul halikakani salaamy hajtim ta jahla kullien. Wahdi il-ashiah fia mali itil insat will istimah heel ehtimam ala qadhrih timamik yakunu in satuk, ta'timam biman, ala qadhrahti mamik bil mowur qataluja akin ghrib, yakun in satikl, wa ala qadrhti mamik, bil insan, yakun stimaklihwalaukan muduh layanik. Faidar itnifsikla tunsit liwalidik, farajh, qadur walidik indik, il asul hadalukan mudu ibnik, w modu walidik, uhwalikal insan al-aziz, binisbalik, laisalahu kimah, fa'lakal, filmuta hadith, ijallahuqima, wastimala. Thayilujik ubuqulla ummakulla khuqulla tuflekulla ayan kan. Lus sashart and had alkalam, had al muqaf, al hiwar li bankum, hual hiwar al akhir, tisma'ulamatma. Uftisma abgalbuk. Leh Moli anil hiwar muhumullah mohem, li anna shaqs al ansar virayat alhammiya. Wali annalan of man an algaq ba'den, l'imadala atabir kullahba, i jita kellimk kattakuniya al lahl akhira. L'imadala u fakir, an nani asna ma'ak min khilal istima qisat najah alaka u ta' mikli alaka fa asmaq bitarika mumtaza watak kulma astatiye min mashar wantiba, fitil kellahbal abira lintatubra, titkelem fiha, bi sh bihaddin nabar had alkelam muhem, ulagr muhem, anamehimmani l-kelam, an ahimini ant uli dalikan asma'lek. Ishil Maharatil Basita Sirya alimukin intit sewiha filahba t tawasul. Awalan Damil Jesedadi. Al insani gat kellem, Jade kun en dik daam Jesedadi bi ma'ana and tukbila ali kema kanif andbisasallem bi bikullika, bi wajhika, udubdatisma leho. A Damal Jessedi Yeshman and niktukbil al in Sam bikulike, and nikmatan shakal bi Aishe Watandu ile. Itnane, ta'abir wajik, labu dinnik in to shek kil wajik, bima tanaseman maalma ukadne tawasul il basari. Mil ashia al muharjjefya miliatrisima u tawasul basari. Badum ratan tisma wahad wit killem Titwahagmat went with the yunuk. Hen Idanavartahu Aidan Wakafil Haraj. Fakifa natifa'al Milhilarit Tawasul Basari. And then mustawayat. Emma inni ashurf of Mabane Ayun Wahada Mustawa at Tawasur al Watak canikul Hihwarjad wa ima an Amvor Mabin Jebhate Wafema Wahadul itsawul woulddi had a halabin nasi and Burun Bihadika. Dutlahda kinte sol of my wahad, Feniksa tentakil minhuna ilahuna fi hadil mantika. Hadil musta wasami. Mustah and tumvur minal min hadil mantikawa asfel Wahadi and Abaratlifia Haraj, and the mate had it and nepsifimantikat elem Munkit Nazil Yunik. Mathatanik fena hadla is dadil alharajende.

SPEAKER_05

Andil henu hadnosabi and do mishkilhu rehabishtimay. When to kill emtbhus uh modu at the wasulbasari, nimatalan low had kill me a job ma anadra, okay who kulma another how will gefliself how will Yani said I say uh will ma another bayona. Fa wishal halma.

SPEAKER_03

A shukaralik at Tawasul Basari Hadefulla Wasila Wasila and Yahlikem. I the had in Wasila Asbahat wasila, Likat al Hihwar, that's the same. Had a shakes may have the hadinad let another. I did Al Qaeda Shekelam, Tarraf and Hatiajman a mammak, Ta'am al Mahouf and Lehtiaj. I did al Qaeda. And San Heb uh Solfman Solf and San Tarafinas may have bit kellem, have begun to kell them. Has to kill just a man to solve. Like the maticaleman and killer. What if the crap in another or the road another? Are you done?

SPEAKER_09

Uh and a so I kept at Tamil my nice literature fasil. I know any j and a shelf and Timer Jade. Let you and a shovel and he was Temmer Jackinukal and me Hyan Yani Akata. Hannon Ziada and Luzon.

SPEAKER_03

Oh Akata. Montas I was saying Arif, Alan Dimushkiro Lulla, Halana Kat alkalamullah. Arifumatarif. Lena Hyanan Igulunli wanama atarif. La Igulkan shafnafsi will ask Musemaj. Fa qaida nukar hadman at Tabrir Adu Tahir. Ident bit berri la anablax and Musemajid an anana, Fabestimer in Sanukat alkalam. Fan a washay arif thumatarif behad in Mushkelemujud and di, Feda Araftu, Tumataroft, Abdel An, Fiamalyatl Islah, and Yabda Ajah Had Nefsi, Daiman Ayahada Alashan Inte Tukumha Jah had Nefsik, Jah, Jihad, Jah, Marram Rutan U Taratu Arba Uhhamsi Kunadil Janil Adulfa ila ulfa, Sir Adia binispelic. Uta dekkeru, annak and namba muntat hadith ile, leday mushkila fifen il isttima fa'lam anna ladeika muskilafifen al-hadith shukaralak.