Episode 20 - You asked… We Answered-Part 2

You asked… and the therapist and the wildcard delivered. Jen and Vit answer your questions with a mix of professional insight and unfiltered honesty—covering mental health, life, and everything in between.

The Therapist & The Wildcard is a mental health podcast hosted by The Wildcard, alongside The Therapist, where real conversations meet professional insight—and nothing is off-limits. Together, they dive into therapy, grief, healing, relationships, emotional chaos, and the moments that make you laugh, cry, or ask, “Is this normal?”

Some episodes go deep. Some go sideways. Most do both. The Wildcard brings the unfiltered conversation, lived experience, and humor people are

usually afraid to say out loud, while The Therapist grounds the conversation with clinical knowledge, compassion, and perspective—without killing the vibe.

This podcast isn’t about having it all figured out. It’s about talking through the mess, naming the hard stuff, and finding meaning (and humor) along the way. If you’ve ever laughed through pain, questioned your own reactions, or wanted therapy talk without the therapy voice—welcome. You’re in the right place.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the Therapist in the Wildcard, the show about grief, mental health, and all the messy stuff in between. One of us helps people heal for a living, and the other probably needs more therapy. Together we keep it real, raw, and sometimes ridiculous. Welcome to the therapist in the wild card. I'm Vit. Hi, Vit. What are your credentials? Certified grief coach, psychology student, widow, and wild card.

unknown 0:33

Nailed it.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

I'm Jen, the therapist that helps her recite her lines. Reminds her she's a widow. You know I love you.

unknown 0:45

I know.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

All right. Love ya too. Following up on some questions from our viewers. Oh yeah, part two of viewer questions.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

My phone's cute on the thing. Okay. Why do I feel like I'm either too much or not enough, depending on the day? And how do you start to regulate that?

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Deep.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

Alright, repeat it one more time. Why do I feel like I'm either too much or not enough, depending on the day? And how do you start to regulate that?

SPEAKER_02 1:30

It really depends on the context, I would say. But I feel like that individual may not be really self-confident. Like, oh I know. You know what? Oh, I know. You know who asked it? Yes, I do. But you know what I mean? Like, if we don't feel good enough about ourselves, right? We feel like we're too much. We feel like we're not enough. We're we're not confident in who we are. And that happens. We all have days like that, right? Like our self-esteem is lower. We're not as confident about ourselves. If I have a bad day in sessions, I think I'm the worst freaking therapist ever. You know what I mean? Like, do you? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

I've come home crying before. I've always wondered how that works. Because, like, there's some times in grief group that I'm like, I got this. And there's other times where I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

I don't got this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

So that's normal. Totally. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

But again, that goes to personal self-doubt. Right? So this person, depending on their circumstances, could just be doubting themselves and who they are. Maybe they're struggling with a loved one, right? And they're they're not feeling good enough. Maybe they are struggling socially. You know, as we all start to get older, it's harder to make friends. And so we feel a little more isolated.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

You know, our circles change. And that could be a big part of it too, you know. Um, I don't know. What's your take on this?

SPEAKER_01 3:02

I don't know, because like, I mean, I have the same. Like, you know, some days I am on top of the world, and other days I'm like, eh. But like in Grief Group the other night, I thought I was, eh. And then I do like, I reach out to people afterwards, just like, and they all like loved it. And one of the women like reposted it and was like, this is a really great group. I just joined it.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

So I was like, I love where this conversation is going. However, after getting murdered. Oh, you're back, huh? Okay. Alright, so where were we talking about? Uh he checked the trash. Like, maybe it's here. I wish you could get this. He's no fool. Okay, so where were we? We were talking about.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Oh, like I thought I was like a shitty like leader or whatever, facilitator the other night. And then had people like, yeah, this is a good group. I really liked it. One woman shared it and was like, This is a really good group. She's led her own type of group before. So I was like, Oh, okay, not that bad. Right? But I don't know. I think that's also like just a part of life. Like you have your ups, you have your downs. 100%. But how do you like regulate that so you don't? I don't know what I'm asking. But do you know you know, right?

SPEAKER_02 4:26

Like, how do you regulate so you don't have like the extremes? The extreme of I'm too much, I'm not enough. Yeah. Right? There's no there's no easy answer. Part of it is being okay with who we are. Nobody's okay with who they are.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

But well, because there's times where like I think you're annoyed with me.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Well, that's right, right? Like the assumptions that we make about things, we maybe that person is assuming they're not enough, or they're made to feel like they're not enough, or they're too over the top. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 5:02

It's all about personal perception, yeah, and how other people perceive you too, because I'm sure I'm over the top for some people.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

Right. You know what I'm like? I agree with what you're saying, but it's also how they portray it and how you interpret it, right? Because there are times when you've called me and you're like, what's wrong with me? And I'm like, you're just a confident person, it's okay. Which is crazy. Crazy. But here we sit. You know, so I think it's just different depending on circumstances. A part of it is kind of understanding who you are and who you want to be, right? Like, what are you seeking in life today, tomorrow, next week, next year? I mean, if you feel like you're not enough, who do you need to be more for? For you personally, for your family, for your friends, for your boss. Like, who do you need to be more for? And if you're too much, why do you think you're too much? Somebody tell you that you're too much? Probably not. Right. Most people don't say that, right? So it's how we interpret something.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

It's all about perception. I like that. It's how we interpret what's given to us. So that person, person, person, person, person, person should maybe do some some values inventory, see what they like about themselves, what kind of D, right? Some value inventory. You know, why don't they feel good enough? What is going great? What isn't going great? And maybe those are the areas of life that they focus on for a little bit. You know, if we're not enough in our marriage, then that's where you need to be focusing, right? I like that. Have you ever seen like the life balance pie? Probably not. It's it's like a recovery thing. Um, but you know, you create this pie of the things that are important in your life and you kind of rate like where you're at and where you want to be, right? So let's just say my marriage, I'm at a two out of a ten. I need to really work on that. But at work, I'm an eight out of ten. I'm good. I don't really have to focus on work right now. I need to focus on my marriage. Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

That makes sense. I like that. It's all it's all about perception. You just gotta break it down. And a lot of us perceive ourselves not correctly or nope.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

And that's the thing, you can practice like standard exercises of like looking in the mirror and telling yourself three great things about you. You know what I mean? Like do those like affirmations and stuff like work? The more you say it to yourself, the more you believe it. The more like negative messages you give yourself, the more you believe it.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

I'm gonna start looking in the mirror and telling myself I'm skinny. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

That's delusion. That's another whole topic. You're welcome. But you know what I mean? Like, just like, and I think we've talked about on here is like when you grow up, you're growing up with the messages that you're given. If you're given messages that you're not good enough, you're not pretty enough, you're not smart enough, then you grow up believing those, right? So, how do you change that thought?

unknown 8:25

Like that.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

Like that comes up all the time in sessions, in groups, and like all the time. Yeah, that just hit something. The wheels are turning now, right? Yeah, because you don't know any different. That's what you grew up and you're always told. You know no different. And this is why people in a lot of abusive relationships, too, they don't know any different, right? And so that's why it's a pattern of behavior. Until you learn to change it and be confident with who you are and have those successes, it's hard behavior to change. How are you feeling about this?

SPEAKER_01 9:01

I feel like you just needed a mic drop.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Boom, neito drop. Just kidding. Oscar's right there. All right, I like that. Okay, well, hopefully I answered your question. An bit answered your question.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Sure, that was more of a you question. Someone said, where do you see yourself in five years? Am I gonna be graduated by then with a master's or not yet? I might be.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

You should be. There's also a hand in the background.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Working for serenity.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

That's what I was gonna say. I was waiting for you to say that. I was gonna say that. Working here in this office building. My personal space.

unknown 9:50

Not this room.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

This room's off limits. Well, I guess we'll find out. Just kidding. But yeah, I working as a therapist.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

What do you like? I kind of know, but do you want like private practice? Do you want like community mental health?

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Do you want like macro level like political stuff? Well, whatever. We're gonna need you to calm back down because I ain't there yet. One of my classes that I could have chose was community psychology. And I like it. So I don't think that's for me. That's that's the one I chose. I think I chose forensic. I would have too instead. Um, okay, what's macro?

SPEAKER_02 10:37

That's like um not direct therapy. It's more of like the greater no. I know you're not interested in that. You have no interest in that.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

I need one-on-one.

SPEAKER_02 10:49

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's where you're that's where I see you. Like in one-on-one or running groups. Yeah. Both? Both. You know, family counseling, couples counseling.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

Private practice, though. Does that mean I'd be your competition?

SPEAKER_02 11:06

You're not gonna work for me.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

How does that work? If I have my own private practice, or I'm just working for your private practice. You just work for my private practice. You don't need your own. What if I wanted my own? Is it if I do my own exact competition? Dang. Is that what that would be? Yep. I don't know. I see how much you work, and I don't know if I want that for myself. I'd rather just work for you, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:33

Take the money, go home. That part.

unknown 11:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

I mean, I can help you with some shit, it's fine, but right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

All right, so five years. You're gonna be a master's graduate, even though five years ago you never even thought about it. Bro, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

And I want my PhD afterwards. And then sky's the limit, because like, what else can I do after that? Another PhD? Period. More certifications? I'm sure you'll find something for me. Not a problem. Sure, we'll figure it out. All right. Do we think that question was just for me or also you?

SPEAKER_02 12:18

Five years I'm still gonna be here. It's from your administrative assistant. Oh, Isabella. You're not gonna be my admin assistant anymore. You're gonna be working here full time with your master's, adding on to serenity.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

What is she in school for? Or what is she?

SPEAKER_02 12:37

She had a bachelor's in general studies, but she's really about like the holistic yeah, because remember, she was here and did like that meditation for us, and like, yeah, she's definitely about that.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

I'd love to see her get her master's degree, and you can because you can like integrate that.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

Okay, yep.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

All right, there you go, Isabella. Get to work, we're all working at Serenity. When did you realize you wanted to turn experience into a passion for helping people?

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Oh, go ahead, Vin. When Jen was like, you need to do this.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

Yeah, no. You definitely I don't think if I or I don't think, or I think if whatever. If you weren't in the picture, you wouldn't be here. Yeah, I don't think I would be where I am today, right? For sure. Um, because you kind of like helped push it and like you believed in me. You were like, no, you can absolutely go to school, and I'm like, no, I'm fucking 36, 37.

unknown 13:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Like it's too late, and you're like, no, it's not, and you're like, I've done this, this, this, this, this, and this.

unknown 13:55

Right.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

Well, and that's the thing, right? Because you were genuinely curious. You I think you were like, Oh, I'd like to do what you're doing, you know. And I'm like, great, you can do it. And then you asked about like social work degrees, counseling degrees, PhDs, like you genuinely explored like this as a possible career path.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Yeah, I think I always like wanted to go to school. I was never the person that people thought I wasn't going to go to school because I always had the good grades. I was always, and then my senior year, I had messed up my ankle really bad. I told I wasn't gonna walk again, blah, blah, blah. So naturally, I was like, I'm just gonna take a year off, and everyone was like, Don't do it, you're not gonna go back. And they were right, like I fell into nannying. I mean, I was already sort of into it, but it was more full-time, more like in-depth nannying, and it just kept going.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Right, and it was comfortable, and why step outside your comfort zone? You had a good today job.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Yeah, and then I think after Chris died, that stability, because in nannying, the kids typically outgrow you. Some families will keep you till they're in high school, blah, blah, blah. But the typical family, they don't keep you that long. Right. It's a good point. And I think with losing Chris, because like that was the second income, like it's stable, not that mine hasn't been. I've been a nanny for 20-some years, but it's just it added significant value to your lifestyle. Yeah, and at 37, it was like, do I want because what am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 15:37

Like what am I doing for the rest of my life?

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Right. Like, do I want to raise or help raise people's children for the rest of my life? I can't even have my own kids. Right. And the answer is no. Like, I love kids. I absolutely love what I do. Right. But can I imagine being 55, 60, taking care of children and playing on the floor and running around and this that no, yeah. So yeah. And I do and are you laughing?

unknown 16:12

No.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

I thought it was two. And I I genuinely enjoy helping people. Right. And I don't know, just you know.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

What was the question? We do digress just a tad.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

No, we were on topic. What when did you realize you wanted to turn experience into a passion for helping people? Oh, there you go. But that didn't happen right away after he died either.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

No, that was a good solid year because you started classes in that sept September of last year, right? Yeah. So it was a one year.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Oh, he died in September. Yeah. So I'd say that was a solid 10, 11 months, right? Yeah. And then, you know, classes started and right.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

You know, but a lot had to fall into place. A lot transpired in the last 18 months for you. Like a lot of bad stuff and a lot of good stuff. But everything needed to fall in place for you to be able to do this.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

You know what I mean? And not everybody has that opportunity. You know, we talked we answered one question earlier about the sadness cycle, right? And like you've been given opportunities that a lot of other people who are in your position wouldn't necessarily have.

unknown 17:42

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

You always bring so much insight. I love it. Happy to assist. I just want to like dig into your brain sometimes. It's a bad idea. Interesting. Well, we all have our past. All right.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

That was another one.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

We did this one. Who's more likely to forget they're being recorded? Wait, who do you think, Steve?

SPEAKER_03 18:18

Uh Vit.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

I really do.

SPEAKER_03 18:22

Yeah, we do it all the time.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

I'm way more self-conscious than you are.

SPEAKER_03 18:26

Back again. Vid is back.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Back, back, back again. But I think that goes back to like you have a little bit more on the line as well. You're a licensed therapist, you have clients, you well, you're also a little more free-spirited. Wild card. They're wrong. Yeah. I mean, I'm a little. Yeah. You're right. Trying to. You're gonna defend yourself on that one or no, you're right. Okay. What else do our viewers want to know? Did we do this one? How do you know if you're actually healing, you're just distracting yourself? I don't think we did, but I think we had one like similar.

unknown 19:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

You scare me. What is something the other person says all the time? There it is. So here's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Here's the thing. What does Jen say? For sure. I say for sure too. But no, you're for sure. You don't say this a lot on camera, but take the win. I don't know how many times I heard that in therapy. You're right. Take the win. Take the win, Vit. Doesn't matter how big the win is, you freaking take it when it's there. Take the win. It's actually like in my journal. I was reading it today and I was like, Yeah. What else do you have?

SPEAKER_02 20:03

For sure, is like one of my biggest ones. For sure. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

The thing is, is you guys say that all the time.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

The thing is.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

You see, the thing is.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

The thing is. But the thing is. Ange says you clock my shit a lot. Do you feel like I clock your shit a lot? Not until I watch the episodes. But like when I'm listening to them, I'm like, damn.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Sometimes I do because I know I can with you.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Yeah, but then you all you do it in such a way though that's like I don't really until I'm like listening and set up a pitch. And I got Ange in the background, like, damn, Jen.

SPEAKER_03 20:45

But she usually gets you to come out with what you're really feeling and thinking.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Always. She lives inside my head. It's weird.

unknown 20:54

Mine too.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Today I literally, was it today? I don't know what you're gonna say. We'll just say it was today. It was today or yesterday. Okay. I literally opened a note to write these down in my phone. And I swear to God, as soon as I hit notes, she texted me and she was like, Topics for tonight? Literally. It was weirdly weird. A cord.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Yeah, you live in my head. Creepy. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

I don't know. This one's hard to answer because it's what topic would make one of you extremely uncomfortable to talk about publicly.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Seriously? That's what it says. Did you put that down there? No. Should have. You're right, you should have. You you'll talk about anything publicly.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

There's a couple things that I've shied away from. Would you like to share the topic or well like dating after losing someone?

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

I haven't wanted to talk too much about that. Not dating at the moment. Just throw it out there. Throw it out there. What about you? Me. You yourself and I.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

I I don't know. I haven't gotten too personal with stuff. I mean, I think I feel like I did a little bit today, but talking about like the kids and the trauma, but a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

In due time.

unknown 22:40

All in good time.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

In due time. We still have the shocking thing. We said that though, right? Yeah. We're gonna come back to that. Nothing's really shocking. The most shocking thing is that we're here. Literally. It still shocks me sometimes. How has your friendship changed since starting the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Well, it's grown. Yeah. I've relaxed a bit more. You have. I'm really proud of you.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Like, I've really kind of come along.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

You really have. Yeah. I'm super proud of you in that aspect. Because less than a year ago, I couldn't even get you to go to dinner. You're right. You were like bugging out. Every time I mentioned it, you can tell inside she was like twitching.

unknown 23:33

Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Yeah. Oh, my mic, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Don't touch the mic.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Um.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

What so what would make us uncomfortable? Conversations? No. Topics?

SPEAKER_01 23:46

How has our friendship changed?

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Oh, that one. Um. Yeah, since starting the podcast. I think it's definitely grown. You know, you've learned more about me.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

I've learned more about you. Because I knew a lot about you. Right. That might be one of the biggest things. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Yeah, we've grown. You've grown to love Oscar. I know. There's that.

unknown 24:18

There's that.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

There's like.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

There's that. There's that. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

But yeah, like I know some of your family. Like I know, like, there's just a different understanding of you.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Yeah. Outside the therapy realm, if you will. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Fair enough. Yeah. I like it. I love it. Solid. Good questions. Want some more of it.

unknown 24:44

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

This one's kind of along the same lines. Okay. Has the podcast ever changed how you see each other as friends? I don't think so. I don't think so either. No, but it's an interesting question. In a good way. It has in a good way. Because it's been able, it's allowed me to see you in a different light. Right. Um. So yeah, I think only in positive ways, no negative ways. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably one of my most stable friends.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Thanks, Ben. One or two.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

I am stable.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

According to the wild card.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Doesn't take much to be stable around me, but you know.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Exactly my point.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Okay. This is the last one. Alright. What episode was the hardest emotionally for you both to record?

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Oh, I know. Do you know which one?

SPEAKER_01 25:50

I think I know.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

I would say the suicide one.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

I was gonna say that one. Yeah.

unknown 25:56

That makes three.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Yeah. That was a that was a tough episode for sure. Diving into a lot of personal feelings and that one was hard.

unknown 26:07

That was tough.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

And I think it was even harder for me to re-watch it. Yep. Because filming it was one thing. I was kind of in the moment. Right. But then having to listen to it and watch it was really admit where you were. Yeah. It hit me differently than when we were filming it. Which a lot of these episodes do. Like when I rewatch them, yeah. I'm like, whoa. But yeah, you know, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 26:41

So in saying that, like that one hit you and made you rethink some stuff and everything. Do you have a different perspective on people who are suicidal now in the process and how you would approach it?

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Yes, but not because of the podcast. Probably because of personal experience, in my opinion, to you.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Well, yeah, not because of the podcast, but like suicide in general, just because of my my experience has but listening to your experience and then realizing what you went through.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Because you don't internalize it when you're going through it, but you listen to it afterwards.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

I've taught him well. I don't know. I feel like it has. But I never thought about it until now. So it's like, you know.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

Well, you just said like it was is hard to watch it again in what I went through and everything. So if you went through a hard time in the future, I think you would reassess that situation a little bit differently than you had in the past. You wouldn't go into the death spiral.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Yeah. But I also think experiencing someone who committed suicide after I went through what I went through also showed me a different side of it. Because when they did it, it was very much like that was selfish as fuck. Like, why did they do that? Um so then when I go back and look at my reasons, that it was also I was being selfish. Like I, yeah. Suicide affects a lot of people around you. And when you're in, and that's what kind of messes me up because I've been there. So when you're in that moment, you don't you don't care about the other people.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Um, but then being on the other side of suicide when someone committed suicide in my life, it was like, how could they do that? Right. Which kind of messed me up a little because I'm like, I thought I understand how they did it, but then it's still like, well, how would they do that to me and us? Right. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

It's a messed up topic, man. Like there's no easy way to have it, but that was that was a very difficult episode for sure.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

And I can even say that I probably wasn't fully honest to the extent that I could have been in it.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

I don't think I realized how much it affected you till after. Do you know the night I'm talking about when we were gonna watch it? We're puzzling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough, tough topic.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Yeah, it's not nobody's proud of where they were, the thoughts that they had. Right. But what? I'm here and it's good. I know I have that sticker on my um my whiteboard in my office. Still here, still strong. Or still strong, still here. I don't know. Period. One of the other. One or the other. It's fine. But it's a good reminder. All right. We fight our battles. We do. Okay, so can we end on a happier note or like here? We go, get some jokes in.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Hey Vit. I once got in a fight with a broken elevator. It was wrong on so many levels.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

Don't laugh. No, I love it. Give us another jokes. Oh, she wasn't a fan of that one. I wasn't. Give me another one.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

Hey Vit.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

What do you call a cow with no legs? Ground beef.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

I knew that one. Oh, that's a good one. Not you raising your hand. I was like, baby.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

Hey Vit.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Yeah, Steve.

SPEAKER_03 30:57

I don't play soccer for the sport. I'm just in it for the kicks.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Oh my god. That was a good one. We ended on a good note.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

That was the best. The good the good note that we're ending on.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

Well, now that you're being a buzzkill, no. Sheesh. All right. Hit us hit it home.

SPEAKER_03 31:17

Hey Vit.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

Yes, Steve.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

I only know 25 letters in the alphabet. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Dude, I should have known that one and I didn't. Did you? No.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Alright, well, that's a wrap. Now you know a whole bunch more about Vit and I. Keep sending the questions in, we'll answer them. I like that to the best of our abilities.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Yeah, no promises. That's a wrap for the therapist and the wild card. One of us brings the therapy and the other brings the chaos. Together, we'll be back with more laughter, healing, and everything in between.