E17: The Polo Grounds Shaped History & Rally Monkey!!

A rally monkey that only appears under strict rules, a capuchin celebrity from Friends, and fans waving stuffed primates like it’s a sacred rite. That’s where we start, because baseball’s superstitions aren’t just funny, they reveal how the sport builds meaning out of moments. Then we jump to a place where the weirdness isn’t a gimmick at all: the Polo Grounds, one of the most important and most bizarre stadiums in MLB history. 

We walk through the full Polo Grounds timeline, from its origins as a polo venue to its forced moves across Manhattan and its long run as the New York Giants’ home before the franchise heads to San Francisco. Along the way we keep the baseball history and trivia coming: how the Metropolitans connect to the later Mets, why the deadball era changes how you should imagine the game, and how one ballpark ends up hosting an absurd mix of baseball, football, and major New York rivalries under the same roof. 

The heart of the story is the field itself. The Polo Grounds is famous for extreme stadium dimensions, short foul lines, a cavernous center field, playable bullpens, and corners that turn routine hits into chaos. We also hit the unforgettable and sometimes unsettling milestones tied to this park, from Willie Mays’ The Catch and the Shot Heard Round the World to tragedies that pushed safety and rule changes. If you love classic ballparks, New York Giants history, and the strange details that make baseball feel alive, this one’s for you. 

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Transcript

Rally Monkey Origins And Rules

Jerry 0:01

Today we look in our first pitch at the unofficial mascot for the Los Angeles Angels, the Rally Monkey. Fans love that little guy, even bringing their stuffed monkeys to games to wave around.

Brooke 0:15

Okay, where is it? I know you bought one.

Jerry 0:19

Well, duh, of course. You can't be shocked. I picked him up the other day. Rally Monkey. He's pretty cute. He's very cute. So the Rally Monkey first appeared in the 2000 game when the Angels were behind the Giants five to four at the bottom of the ninth. And the team's video board operators took a movie clip from Ace Ventura Pet Detective and used the monkey and put the term Rally Monkey over it. Well, the Angels scored two runs and one. And you know teams and their superstitions. So after that, the team hired Katie, the Cappuccine Monkey, who you may remember as Marcel the Monkey from the TV series Friends, to star in clips. And sometimes she holds a sign saying rally time. The Cappuccine Monkey jumps around to the song Jump Around from House of Pain in 1992. Jump, jump, jump. Do you know, Brooke, that Capuchin monkeys are named after the Capuchin monks who wore brown robes with big hoods, and the Portuguese explorers in the Americas thought the monkeys looked similar to the monks.

Brooke 1:34

I'm surprised the monkeys, the monks aren't named after the monkeys, since you know, monkeys were there first.

Jerry 1:41

No, the monkeys are named after the monks. That's right. The monkeys got there first, but they couldn't get their act together to get a name for themselves.

Brooke 1:49

Sounds about right. You're hitting off baseball trivia, by the way.

Jerry 1:52

Well, you know, Capuchin is also named after the Cappuccino.

Brooke 1:57

All right, bring it back.

Jerry 1:58

Well, I still think listeners read our podcast subtitle, Baseball History and Trivia, a number of ways.

Brooke 2:04

Yes, I guess I should have said baseball history and baseball trivia.

Jerry 2:07

Yeah, you should have specified. So the Rally Monkey gained even further fan track traction during the 2002 World Series runs when the Angels beat the Giants four to three. In game six, the Angels trailed the Giants at home, and in facing elimination, they were then down two games to three. But in the bottom of the seventh, down five-o, out came the rally monkey. And Scott Spiezio, oh gosh, no. Good one. You got it, crushed his famous three-run blast that sparked the comeback. The Angels then scored three more runs in the eighth to win the game and tie the series.

Brooke 2:45

Well, I'm a believer.

Jerry 2:47

There are rules though.

Brooke 2:48

Oh.

Jerry 2:48

You don't want a monkey graphic popping up all the time. No, no, you don't. So the monkey only comes out when the Angels are trailing by four or fewer runs in the sixth inning or later.

Brooke 2:58

Yes, I guess that's because she can really make a difference then. Yeah, isn't it? Did you know she has her own Topps baseball card?

Jerry 3:04

I saw that.

Brooke 3:06

I see that look in your eye. Don't even think you're gonna get a baseball card with Rally Monkey on it.

Jerry 3:12

Oh, but that would be great for my collection.

Brooke 3:14

Yeah, I'm starting the show.

Jerry 3:19

Hello and welcome to Fungos and Fastballs, the podcast of baseball history and trivia. I'm your host, Jerry Dynes. Let's jump into today's episode. Today, we go back a bit to a historic stadium of baseball, the Polo Grounds, the home of a number of professional baseball teams over the years, as well as other teams with other sports. Most significantly, though, the New York Giants. I've got my San Francisco Giants shirt on today. But the New York Giants called it home until their move to San Francisco in 1958. Though an oddly shaped stadium with quirky distances that created some unusual fielding distances and situations, the stadium hosted many pivotal and important moments in Major League Baseball history, as we will hear later. Now, when people talk of the polo grounds, the image is typically of the third polo grounds that we'll talk about in a little while, which is often compared to a bathtub, remodeled after a fire destroyed the stadium in 1911, at least part of it. So really one could say that's the fourth polo grounds.

Brooke 4:27

You get me confused already, but uh you I hear the word polo grounds and I think of uh a long football type field with horses and guys with mallets swinging them around.

Jerry 4:38

Yeah, I mean, and you'd be right. Stadium actually kind of got its start 30 years earlier in 1876 when it was built for, well, polo. Makes sense. It wasn't the polo grounds, capital P, capital G either. That wasn't the name. It was just called the polo grounds, uh, little little P, little G, because hey, it was designed for polo.

Brooke 4:58

Yeah, and listeners, go figure, but this is our second episode talking about polo. We mentioned it last time in our Chipper Don't Jones episode.

Jerry 5:06

You wouldn't think we'd mentioned polo so much, but I'm a little bitter, as I mentioned before. I'm a southpaw, I'm still I'm unable to play polo unless I play with my right hand, which just isn't happening.

Brooke 5:17

Sorry, I guess we'll have to sell that horse I got you for your birthday.

Jerry 5:20

Oh. Well, very soon after the polo grounds came about, baseball clubs and teams really start playing there, and no polo was played at subsequent versions of the polo ground. We started getting baseball when the New York Metropolitans started playing there in 1880. Are the Metropolitans or for short Mets?

Brooke 5:42

Huh. I I guess I never thought about what their full name was. Is does that mean the football jets or the Jetropolitans? No?

unknown 5:52

No.

Jerry 5:52

Oh, very funny.

Brooke 5:53

Uh, I guess because the airplane on their helmet, they're just the Jets.

Jerry 5:57

Well, those 1880 Mets name was used in '61 for the expansion team, we all know. The original Metropolitans had great financial success playing at the polo grounds. And so that franchise was offered a spot both in the National League, but also the rival American Association, which is different from the American League. That hadn't happened yet. The Mets accepted a spot in both leagues. Because of commitments to both leagues, the owner of the Metropolitans decided to join, have the Mets join the American Association and formed a whole new team to join the National League. And that team would be called the New York Gothams, which soon after in 1885 would be called the New York Giants.

Brooke 6:44

These names, Jerry, these names. I think I'm going to develop a game for our guests. Okay, you ready for this? It's called Where'd They Come From. And I think it'll folks will take a current MLB team, and they have to figure out where their previous location and their names were. Because this is this is crazy. And the weird thing is now we've got football names. We've got Giants and New York Giants and two, yeah, got football.

Jerry 7:10

Yeah, I mean, we talked about Seattle and of course moving to uh Milwaukee.

Brooke 7:14

Milwaukee.

From Manhattan To Coogan’s Hollow

Jerry 7:15

Some teams from the early National League in the 1800s have a lot of name changes. Yeah. And place changes. Well, both of these teams, the New York Mets or Metropolitans and the New York Baseball Giants, would actually play in the polo ground. So let's get back to the polo grounds. By all means. So the original polo grounds was located north of Central Park in 110th Street and 6th Avenue. Now we've lived in Manhattan many years. Many people have visited Manhattan. If you've never been there, it's kind of tough to visualize, but hopefully you can look at a map. But it's like a it's like a rectangle, except it kind of bends at the end, but at the top it tapers. And so maybe it's not like a rectangle. I'm not doing a good job on this. But the best thing is the grid-like streaks, which are very organized, avenues vertical, streets lateral. It puts cities like New Orleans, DC, Boston, just to shame. They're so disorganized. Very easy to get around. And the polo grounds was at 110th Street. Kind of like the Bobby Womack song across 110th Street.

Brooke 8:24

Where's the mute button here? The song's like 50 years old, Jerry. You're not endearing us to the younger hip crowd that we're trying to get. It's a good song, though. It's a good sound. Yeah, yes.

Jerry 8:36

Well, as I was saying, 110th Street is in the high middle part of the island, really at the top of Central Park. And it was getting to be prime real estate back then. So when the New York City's street system expanded, it led to a forced relocation of the team. And that's when you get the second polo grounds. And that was at a place called Coogan's Hollow, which is in Washington Heights, much higher up, 155th Street and west to 8th Avenue, right near the Harlem River, north of the island. So the weird thing about Coogan's Hollow is it was a really a large cliff or promontory. And you would look down, and there would be a Coogan's Hollow right there where the stadium would be built.

Brooke 9:24

Yeah, I saw it on the map. I've seen some pictures, I'll put them on our posts, how uh people just could stand up at the top and look right into the stadium. Yeah. There's actually a road that went up there that they just park along the side of the road and just get out of their car and watch for a while.

Jerry 9:38

Yeah, you could watch games for free, which you know, I don't think was the intention of the uh the the New York Giants.

Brooke 9:45

No, probably not. It's funny when you look at these old photos, everyone they're in suits. You know, the women are in their full dress outfits, but all the men are in their suits, they've got their hats on. It's such a different time.

Jerry 9:57

They dressed up to go to the game. Exactly.

Brooke 9:59

I just think they wore that all the time.

Jerry 10:02

Well, interestingly, in this version of the polar ground, the center field was actually shallower than the left or right center. The depth of the fields did not matter as much. We were in the deadball era, so deep outfield outfield hits were not really as much of an issue.

Brooke 10:19

Could you explain what deadball is? Because I think there there may be a listener out there who doesn't know, and I'm thinking that, you know, thinking about that listener who may not know what deadball means. So, okay, for that listener, wink.

Jerry 10:37

I know you know this, bro. Yes, I do. But for the listener, uh in the first 20 years of the 20th century, especially, uh, pitchers were dominant and there were not many home runs. The focus was on small ball, steals, bunts, you know, getting on base. You know, the most home runs, for example, in all about 20-year period in the American League was sixteen. So sixteen runs a whole season by the wonderfully named Sox Seabold, Sox S O C K S. Of course, the dead ball era would end abruptly, with the emergence of one George Herman Ruth, or Babe Ruth, as well as the banning of spitball and other rule changes we'll touch upon a little later.

Brooke 11:19

Okay. Well, that listener, I'm sure, thanks you. Well, you're welcome, listener.

Jerry 11:24

But it wasn't long until the polo ground had moved again with a third version built, just right next door. And that was known as Brotherhood Park for a while, but basically everyone kind of just still called it the polo grounds. The second was renamed as Manhattan Field. They had they had track and field events and other sports there. But in 1911, a fire affected the stadium. The polo ground polo grounds was remodeled, reconstructed, concrete, steel. It was renamed as Brush Stadium, but no one called it Brush Stadium. Everyone still called it the polo grounds, and the name stuck. And that is where the New York baseball giants would play until 1911, all the way until 1957, their last season in New York. It's this stadium that was the home of many teams and so many events. In addition to baseball and football, there was college football, like Columbia University games, multiple Army Navy games. There was Gaelic football, soccer, boxing, all kinds of things. And in addition to the New York Giants, the New York Yankees played there actually in the early 20s before the house that Ruth was built, the house that Ruth built was built. That's Yankee Stadium.

Brooke 12:36

You actually, if you were at the polo grounds and looked across the river, you could see Yankee Stadium from there. They were just uh well, I guess a long home run away.

Jerry 12:47

Yeah. Different leagues, of course. You know, the Yankees were in the American and the Giants uh were in the national even back then, but still, you know, intercity rivals, you know, a lot of jealousy, a lot of fan bias in there. But right across the river. Right across. In addition to these teams, two Negro League teams played there in the 30s and 40s, the New York Cubans and the New York Black Yankees. And that meant that for several years, three baseball teams, including the Giants, had to share the field. So scheduling must have been something. They also shared the field with the New York football giants, who played there from 1922 to 1955. And then after that, the team moved, the football giants moved to Yankee Stadium. So you had the football giants and the baseball Yankees playing at Yankee Stadium. It gets very confusing. But it's uh it's fun, fun stuff, fun trivia.

Brooke 13:42

Yes. And not even baseball trivia, but trivia.

Jerry 13:47

Well, essentially, eventually, the baseball giants would move to San Francisco, as I mentioned, but the polo grounds eventually became the home of the expansion New York Mets and the new American Football League team, the New York Titans, which would change their name to Jets.

Brooke 14:05

So if my memory serves me correct, these new New York Mets must have had a player, Marvelous Marv Throneberry, that we did an episode on.

Jerry 14:16

Yeah, you must have been listening.

Brooke 14:18

Paying attention. This stuff, again, it's sinking in. Every time I get a new memory, something's falling out of my ear. There goes a phone number I needed to know.

The Bathtub Field And Wild Distances

Jerry 14:26

Well, the last game in the polo grounds was in 1963, and that was between the New York Jets and the Buffalo Bills. A year later, this historic stadium was demolished. They had a wrecking ball painted like a baseball. It was actually the same wrecking ball that was used to demolish Ebbett's Field, the former home of the Brooklyn Dodgers, four years earlier. The wrecking crew at the time, you can see pictures of them wearing Giants jersey and its jerseys in honor. And in its place, a public housing development, the Polo Ground Towers were uh built in its place. I still think actually there are housing there. Now it was the unusual design of the polo grounds that made it memorable but also frustrating, and the site for a lot of fielding challenges. It's tough to convey on audio. I'm sure Brooke will post an Instagram picture.

Brooke 15:17

I will.

Jerry 15:17

First of all, the baseball field was at one end of the football field that many people played football on, and it was bordered by rectangular walls, kind of like you'd think a football stadium was, not a baseball stadium. So you had rectangular walls. I'm doing my Vogue here for Madonna. And a more modern song than Across 110th Street. Much in 1990. So still we're we're not capturing that younger demographic. But because of the field and the rectangular walls, you had these foul lines that cut off very quickly at on the right field 258 feet, on the left, 279 feet. Meanwhile, the the center field was very deep. Now, by comparison, the shortest right or left field wall today in the MLB is 302 feet in Fenway Park in Boston. These were 258, 279. And I mentioned the center field dropped all the way back at its maximum to 483 feet. Now, today, the longest center feet wall field wall is in Comerica Park in Detroit, 420 feet. So this is 63 feet deeper than the longest center field today.

Brooke 16:31

That's just crazy. That's crazy. Guess not a lot of home runs there, but I think you'll cover that later.

Jerry 16:36

In fact, just now, thanks. Sorry. Well, because of these weird distances and differences, very alliterative, uh, there were cheap homers if you hit it close to the foul lines, but only four people ever hit center field homers. Trivia alert. So those four people were Luke Easter in the Negro Leagues, Hank Aaron, uh, Lou Brock, who we know from our first episode. And on two consecutive days, Joe Adcock. So there you go. Impress your friends with those four batters. To make things weirder, uh we'd mentioned the short foul lines, but if you continued up the walls on the side, there were these nooks in the corner, and they were like 440, 447 feet. That's where the bullpen's were. So if you hit it just left or right down the foul line, you're hitting the bullpen. Well, guess what? The bullpen's were in play. Oh, that's weird. So can you imagine playing that? No. Also, way beyond the deep center field wall, there was the team clubhouse below the scoreboard. And guess what? If it hit off the wall of that, it was in play. There was also an upper deck that at one point hung over the field, the fence, the home run fence. And so technically, if you hit it up into the upper deck, it was a shorter home run than if you had hit it over the field. So if it sounds crazy, if it sounds complex, it was. But you know what? Uh fans loved it because it was such a field that had been around forever.

Brooke 18:15

I could imagine though, when you're changing out your pictures, yeah, it's like, okay, bring in the new guy. It's like three minutes later as he's walking, walking, walking, walking all the way down the basically the length of a football. It's like, oh, time to go to the bathroom. Let's go.

Jerry 18:28

And although sometimes you did not get a lot of, again, deep center field home runs, you got a lot of triples, a lot of inside the park home runs if you're hitting to those nooks. So it made playing there very different. Uh, just as when we did that episode on the Green Monster, playing off the Green Monster is is presents uh fielding challenges and a certain expertise, savoir faire. And that's the great thing about baseball. You know, a lot of these fields aren't standardized. They have they have different, you know, different nuances. But quirks to them, exactly. You're right. So many iconic moments of baseball occurred in the polo grounds, and many of these brook, they deserve and will get their own episode.

Brooke 19:09

Okay. I'm I'm paying attention.

Jerry 19:11

Putting that out there in advance. Because many of them, as you'll even guess from brief summaries, are so important in the history of baseball.

Brooke 19:18

I don't want to I don't want to tell our listeners, but I'll tell you. Yeah. I got rid of the notebook. I went digital.

Jerry 19:25

Oh, wow. I went digital. Oh, so we have a digital list.

Brooke 19:29

Yes, it's digital.

Jerry 19:30

So this running gag we've been doing for two months is kind of over.

Brooke 19:33

Well, we can still use the term, but in case I think some couple people came up to me and asked me if I literally had a notebook, and I and I did. I told them I did, but it was just getting out of control.

Jerry 19:43

We've just got too many ideas and too many hopes for episodes. I know. We're like plotting out a seven-year course, so stick with us. What? I'm plotting out.

Brooke 19:52

Okay.

Jerry 19:52

Well, first of all, the polo grounds hosted 13 World Series. In fact, it is only oh, another trivia. It's only one of two stadiums to host an entire World Series. You know, as people know, but if you're new to baseball, you know, it's played alternately at the at either of the team's parks, which means, yes, there were two teams playing at the polo grounds, and that was the 21 and 22 World Series, as we've kind of indicated before, the New York Giants versus the New York Yankees. Yes. So the whole game was played there. Only one other stadium had both teams there.

Brooke 20:30

And I know this one too. You know it? I do.

Jerry 20:33

As we discussed it. The St.

Brooke 20:34

Louis Cardinals when we discussed our World War II episode.

Jerry 20:38

Sportsman's Park. Yeah, trolley series. St Louis Browns.

Brooke 20:48

Right, right. You better, you better keep me because you know, um with this wealth of baseball knowledge I'm getting, I could be, you know, very high up there on the market if you if you were to leave.

Jerry 20:59

Plus, I don't know how to access the new digital nobody. That's at least worth keeping. So other events that happened there. In 1908, Merkel's boner. I'm sorry, what was that?

Brooke 21:12

What was I drinking my water? Watch a mid-zip.

Jerry 21:14

I almost got a spit take there.

Brooke 21:17

What was that?

Jerry 21:18

Now watch that mind. It's one of Major League Baseball's most infamous base running eras. It's featured very heavily in Ken Burns baseball. In the interest of time, we'll save it for another episode. But it's big. I'll put it in the digital notebook. Babe Ruth's first home run as a Yankee was there in 1915. Cool. After he came over from the Red Sox. The only person to die during a Major League Baseball game happened at the polar grounds. That was August 16th, 1920.

Brooke 21:44

Okay. Any MLB game. You're just not saying up until the player.

Jerry 21:48

Yes.

Brooke 21:49

Oh, it was a player.

Jerry 21:50

The only player ever to die in a there have been thousands of other spectators that are so playing. No, I don't. I'm just joking about that. Well, that's a sad pantheon. No, the only player, only one player has ever died during an MLB game, and that happened at the polo grounds. And we're gonna discuss it a lot more when we have an episode on the ball uh itself, the baseball itself. But basically, balls were so sullied by dirt, tobacco juice, scuffed up, and you didn't have night games, so as the lights gone out, the goal was to make balls just unable to be seen. And unfortunately, this one happened to hit this fella in the head. And and so you know, this did lead to important rule changes, the banning of the spitball, and the replacement that seems so annoying and excessive these days of umpires just constantly tossing in new clean balls.

Brooke 22:45

So was he Oh, so he was getting pitched at, so he wasn't wearing a batting helmet.

Jerry 22:49

Right. Yeah. Believe it or not, batting helmets weren't really common back then. They actually weren't fully mandatory in the league until 1971. Really? Yeah, although they had been introduced decades earlier.

Brooke 23:00

Wow. Yeah. Scary.

Jerry 23:02

But uh Ray Chapman, that unfortunate fellow, was not the only death in the polo grounds. A fan, Barney Doyle, keeled over on July 4th, 1950. July 4th. So he's watching the game, and the surrounding crowd suspected a heart attack. But then when they uh they rolled him over, they discovered he'd been shot in the head. What? Yeah. And so there was a whole investigation. This is like a true crime podcast or get her cue poro, or some detective in there. Well, it turns out a 14-year-old boy, not even in the stadium, had found a gun months before, went up on his rooftop to fire it because you know, celebrate Independence Day. That's that's what we all do, celebrating Independence Day by firing guns off.

Brooke 23:44

Well, we live in the South, so who knows?

Jerry 23:46

And it traveled 1,123 feet into the stadium downward and killed Doyle. Jeez. Now, now you would think this would have made a bigger hullabaloo, but but actually the game continued on her scheduled because it happened right before the game. And as medics carried the body away, people actually were standing nearby. They fought for the guy's empty seat. Oh man. That is New York City. That's New York City. Yes.

Brooke 24:13

Can't leave. Oh, wow. Poor guy.

Jerry 24:15

Now, our third trivia alert. Ding ding ding. Uh the victim, Mr. Doyle, was once a boxing manager manager of James J. Braddock, whom Russell Crowe portrayed in Cinderella Man.

Brooke 24:29

Always a connection with something.

Jerry 24:31

That's right. Again, not baseball, but baseball adjacent.

Brooke 24:34

That's right. Interesting.

Jerry 24:36

Other big things. Well, the shot heard round the world in 1951, Bobby Thomson's three-run walk-off home run that gave the Giant the National League pennant over their rival Brooklyn Dodgers. Famous Russ Russ Hodges called The Giants win the pennant, the Giants win the pennant. That's going to get an episode. But interestingly, decades later, it was discovered or admitted that the Giants actually used that clubhouse past center field to set up a telescope to read catcher's sign. They'd signal to the hitters, kind of using bells. So a little uh a little cheating going on. Shocking.

Brooke 25:13

Yeah, but that's been going. I mean, didn't they just stop that recently?

Jerry 25:17

I mean, not like the past year, but well, stealing signs has always been part of baseball, but it's how you do it. That's the challenge. And I don't think the signaling device with the telescope and you know, just like just like you you shouldn't use garbage cans and you know electronic course.

Brooke 25:33

Yes, because uh we always joke when we're gastros. When we're why when we're watching baseball, how they all come out with their hands over their head. Yeah, yeah.

What Remains Today And Farewell

Jerry 25:43

Well, finally, the famous play from game one of the 1954 World Series, known as just the catch. Willie Mays's center field over the shoulder catch, one of the greatest plays in baseball history. And again, I'm sure like the shot hurt around the world, like uh the death of Ray Chapman. We're gonna cover these later. Okay. So the polo grounds is long gone, and the Giants have been in San Francisco almost as long as they were in New York. 68 years compared to 75 years. Uh, the legacy of the great stadium remains. And hey, if you're traveling to New York City for a baseball pilgrimage, you can always head up to the Highbridge Park where the stadium used to stand and climb the 80-step staircase that remains as a New York City landmark. That is the only structure in New York there from the old polo grounds.

Brooke 26:32

Oh boy, I'm feeling a little pilgrimage.

Jerry 26:35

Maybe a trip next time we go up. Forget those, forget Broadway and the Art Museum.

Brooke 26:39

Exactly. We are going to the 80 steps.

Jerry 26:42

Though oddly, you can also see remnants of the polo grounds in Arizona in Phoenix Municipal Stadium, where Arizona State plays its games, go Sun Devils. They actually moved the original light poles from the polo grounds there.

Brooke 26:58

Interesting.

Jerry 26:59

And it's those light bulbs that remain in uh and uh over Arizona State's night games. Fascinating. So if you don't want to go to New York City to see the staircase, you can always go and see the light poles in Arizona.

Brooke 27:10

You know, hey, I I I wouldn't mind Arizona. Arizona?

Jerry 27:13

Not right now. But on the lids, it's a dry heat.

Brooke 27:16

Exactly.

Jerry 27:17

So that wraps up today's episode. Thanks always to Brooke.

Brooke 27:21

You're welcome.

Jerry 27:22

And shout out especially to my florist, Timothy, who assured me he'll be listening.

Brooke 27:28

Uh, do you have a florist that you know? Because I don't recall any flowers coming my way recently. Our anniversary's coming. Who knows? Okay.

Jerry 27:37

Well, we're always happy you're listening and hope you'll keep listening. Uh, don't forget to subscribe on your podcast platform. Uh, heading back to the locker room, this is Jerry Dines and Fungos and Fastballs.