Microphone Monkeys
Microphone Monkeys is what happens when three microphones are left unattended and the producers don’t check the enclosure for sarcasm leaks.
Hosted by Randy Oparowski and Tripp Dettmering, this panel podcast proudly embraces the fact that none of the monkeys claim to have all the answers—just strong opinions, questionable metaphors, and a deep distrust of anything that requires a 400-page bill to explain. From libertarian philosophy and free-market capitalism to a classical, Constitution-as-written perspective, the Monkeys swing through current events with the grace of a three-legged primate on espresso.
Expect lively debate, self-inflicted insults, historical references that may or may not impress your high school civics teacher, and a relentless belief that voluntary exchange beats government coercion—delivered with enough humor to keep it from sounding like a think tank PowerPoint.
If you’re looking for polished punditry, look elsewhere. If you enjoy smart, irreverent conversation where even the hosts admit they might be wrong (but not that wrong), welcome to Microphone Monkeys—where free minds, free markets, and mildly unhinged commentary all share the same mic. 🎙️🐒
Microphone Monkeys
The AI Rat Crotch Panties Episode
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Once again, Randy leads the Monkeys down a trail of AI, Technology and Weird Stuff to talk about. The laughter never stops... but, it does get a bit philosophical in this episode. So hang tight and enjoy the ride!
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Here we come, walking down the street. Got the gold, no taxes to me. Free to speak and free to trade. Markets have no need for okay. We're the microphone monkeys. People say we're anarchist fungi. So we're too busy being free. Hey, we're the microphone monkeys.
SPEAKER_02Hey guys, this is Microphone Monkeys, and this week we have technology rodents, feet juice, explosives, and emotional regulation.
SPEAKER_01Explosive technology rodents? I'm in.
SPEAKER_02Sponsored by uh Myrtle Myrtle Mania. Myrtle Mania. Wow. This weekend?
SPEAKER_03This weekend Myrtle Mania?
SPEAKER_02That one? That one. That big, exciting. All these wild ass libertarians.
SPEAKER_01Visions, uh, Visions uh Supper Club, or I don't know what they call Supper Club. But anyway, they're uh Donnie Emory and his crew sponsoring a fantastic. I saw the the website and it looks absolutely incredible. What do you guys think of it when you saw all the activities and so on?
SPEAKER_03I was pretty excited about it. I just you know when I see that kind of stuff and they've got the plastic that they put over themselves, I want one of those squirt gun, you know, rapid fire ones. Yeah. The body condoms. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, there's a squirt gun story today, but maybe we could bring squirt guns and squirt some of the uh ladies nearby at issues.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I'm game. I'm open to anything but what's next door. So and wait, aren't we we're kind of sponsored by Ka Canna?
SPEAKER_02Oh, and we're sponsored by Canna? Yeah, Kahn.
SPEAKER_03Ka Canna. I think outta caller. Cocaan! Cocoon!
SPEAKER_02Cacao!
SPEAKER_03We're in hopes that they'll send us free product, of course.
SPEAKER_02And XUM and what were they called?
SPEAKER_01XUM.
SPEAKER_02XUM, the LP's uh Sybin dealer that they uh gave all the delegates. So and uh we could even throw in Yo Kratom at this point. Yeah, Steve Hoffman's the main rep, sales rep for Yo Kratom here.
SPEAKER_00Save my gummies. Keep your hands off my gummies.
SPEAKER_02I I think Robbie Bernstein's coming back down soon. The fire to the Yo Kratom thing. Oh, there we go. But I am today joined by Dark Web Detmaring, aka the Lurch of Liberty. Ah we have the Karma Capitalist, our friend from Oakland, aka Third Eye Atherton. We have Stone Cold Steve Hoffman, aka the Minnesota Maniac. Yeah, sure, you betcha. And we have a very special surprise guest today, a Yeti from Young Americans for Liberty, known to science as the North American Liberty Sasquatch, the AKA Libertarian Chewbacca, we have Ethan Mathis. Yay! Come on, guys. Big round. So glad we are.
SPEAKER_01We do want to give a shout out to our good friend Mafia Mike, who's not in studio tonight, and this is kind of serious. Um, his his wife is having a uh uh surgical procedure at this time, and our thoughts and prayers do go out to him.
unknownRight on.
SPEAKER_02Yes, 100%.
SPEAKER_01All right, back to the madness.
SPEAKER_02Back to the madness. So before we go through our crazy featured stories, I wanted to just go through Ethan's history. He does door knocking, he does activism, he's like a missionary of liberty.
SPEAKER_01Oh, wow. I could I could picture him with the little pencil thin uh tie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I wonder, we I mainly want to ask if there's Ron Paul. Have you been close to being martyred at any of these uh door knocking events or any Yosemite Sam's jump out and start shooting in the air?
SPEAKER_06Uh fortunately not, but I have in been in some sketchy areas. Um Hoffman's neighborhood, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's where concealed carry comes in handy.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Well, tell us share some of your stories with us.
SPEAKER_02Well, like what's the most opinionated people have got, or what are the most difficult debates, or people fight with you, or well no, I mean I've had some great conversations with you know individuals at the door talking about the local races going on, AG race, the governor's race.
SPEAKER_06Um how how can we defeat Lindsay Graham, among other things? Yeah. Um but what a dream. Right, right. Our hopes and prayers. But most people are just as you would expect, kind of apathetic, kind of not really paying attention, just oh, who all is running? Okay, I'll have to I'll have to look into them. I'm like, thanks, yeah, thank you for your consideration. Um a lot of brief encounters. Um but you know, I it does give me some hope, but there's still so much more work to do.
SPEAKER_02Who's one of the most just like authoritarian people you've had to deal with, and maybe one of the most libertarian who's been the most important thing?
SPEAKER_06Like at the door? Yeah, like when they're debating you or when they're coming up and they're Well, so so uh we make it a practice, like you don't debate the voter, right? You you kind of try to meet them where they're at, right? Always try to agree with them. You know, they'll say, like, oh, you know, Trump, you know, he's he's a great guy, he's doing some great things. I'm like, yep, he's definitely doing something, right? He's trying.
SPEAKER_02Can you vote against Lindsey Graham, please?
SPEAKER_06Right, right. Um but carry on. What was the question?
SPEAKER_02Well, what if like when you uh you know, there was a recent story, won't go into details about any of the names or anything, but there's a recent story where a council lady was uh they basically did a chilling effect and trespassed a bunch of oh shoot, I misunderstood.
SPEAKER_01I thought it was a prostitution charge. So it's a trespass charge.
SPEAKER_02I'm sorry. And they basically said you they it was almost like entrapment, and they really don't like that you're in their neighborhood about their tax increases or that sort of thing. Yeah, well, the council people definitely wouldn't want you talking about that.
SPEAKER_00I imagine it's even difficult to get them to talk about top politics. You know, I thought you were here to sell me a magazine. No, yeah. No, I do want to confess one thing.
SPEAKER_01Stephen uh, I mean, there has been this uh Ethan has been secretly um one of the I want to say creative uh contributors to Liberty Crack Media for years. Oh um, and he has done it through his uh his own little it's uh Drug for Robots, is that what's right. How how would people get to see some of your content? Because it's really good.
SPEAKER_02But um I, you know, videos like editing like military stuff, yeah, almost like a documentary promo type thing.
SPEAKER_01Where where would our listeners go and tune in to see some of this incredible stuff?
SPEAKER_06Uh mostly YouTube is where all my stuff's at.
SPEAKER_01Right. You have a YouTube channel, and it is called Drugs for Robots. Drugs for Robots, everybody.
SPEAKER_02Which ties into AI and Michio Kaku. And Michi, that's a next level, drugging the robots. No, no, no. That's right. That's a curveball.
SPEAKER_01That's right. You we uh Michiu Kaku is the drinking game that people play on uh for microphone monkeys. Jimmy Page looking physicist.
SPEAKER_02But there there's it it's basically you guys are strategic enough that you don't have any wild interactions.
SPEAKER_06We try to keep it brief and uh you know, meet the voter where they're at, don't argue with the voter, don't debate the voter, just uh at the very least, you know, hey, we're just informing you, reminding you of the election on such and such date, and asking you for your consideration, you know, Bob Smith, the candidate or whoever, right? That we're knocking for.
SPEAKER_03Do you ever get like I mean, we used to get this where they do these Christmas carols in Oakland and everybody in the neighborhood, or some of the people in the neighborhood, get together and they'd go and knock on the door and they do the carols. And we had this lady once that she just opened the door and she looked at everybody and she just said, Oh, hell no. Yeah, do they do they do that? Do you get that?
SPEAKER_06I I've got some of that. I've got people, you know, peeking through the blinds, like, you know, barely crack open the door. Like, who are you? What do you want?
SPEAKER_02Has anyone called wildlife control, confusing you for a bear? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Not yet, not yet.
SPEAKER_02All right, well, going into the stories this week, the first one is cosplay models selling feet juice at California Anime Festival. This sounds like something you used to be involved in back at California.
SPEAKER_03I do the Comic Cons and then some of the video game festival stuff there. And you know, the feet have really got a smell. That's what I gotta say.
SPEAKER_02Because it's hot, it's there's no air conditioning. The pheromones, the fungi.
SPEAKER_03They're standing in that outfit all day long. I mean, they're probably making bucks off of that because you're getting some real stink.
SPEAKER_02You see, this is this is a business model we haven't considered for Liberty Crack for the June-July situation. There's all these girls on Yopon, there's all these sweaty feet, it's hot and humid out. We have a business idea flowing here.
SPEAKER_01We're carrying people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we're carrying people, and we need to raise money. Does it say like how well this individual does? Well, it's like an OnlyFans thing. So basically, uh the Fanime Con in San Jose. Yo, perfect.
SPEAKER_03Nice and hot, nice and dry, and just terrible down there. Nice and sweaty. Yeah, the traffic is good too. Like you get outside and it's just instant smog. It's perfect for sweaty, stinky feet.
SPEAKER_02You mix you mix in uh cosplay Asian girls' sweaty feet with uh yeah, it's getting this is a guarantee winner.
SPEAKER_00Sounds like a foot fetish festival to me. I believe so. Where do I buy my tickets?
SPEAKER_02So the female cosplayers are selling glasses of fruit juice steeped in their own feet. Oh. So anime conventions can get pretty wild, but when's the last time you attended an event where models were selling actual foot juice?
SPEAKER_01Hoffman's house.
SPEAKER_02Hoffen's house. It's all these women in his basement, he can he's selling it out with his own defense. Uh despite the product's unconventional nature, the $10 to $15 price tag wasn't enough to deter potential clients. And according to multiple reports, the foot juice sold out within an hour.
SPEAKER_03I bet at that price with inflation? Oh man, that's nothing.
SPEAKER_02That's less than a lunch. And you see the pink hair.
SPEAKER_01This is the foot juice you usually buy, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00Foot-infused beverages, yes.
SPEAKER_02This is a business model. Oh, you see, she's dripping it into the guy's mouth. So that says a premium price. See, this is probably talking about the Myrtle Mania. Myrtle mania.
SPEAKER_00Coming to a retirement community near you.
SPEAKER_02So, how are we going to monetize this?
SPEAKER_03There have to be nobody wants your foot juice.
SPEAKER_01Not mine, but there's a lot of we're trying to get this thing monetized through uh LibertyCrackmedia.com project 2027, but we're still and you're offering this stuff.
SPEAKER_02Foot premium part of Project 2027. This could be a fundraiser.
SPEAKER_00We might have to adjust our business plan. Yeah, there we go.
SPEAKER_02You know how many sweaty girls walking up and down Yopond right now? Let's go count wasted features. I think on Craigslist we could find some of these. We could get a partnership going. Oh, there we are.
SPEAKER_01Now maybe we could get a government grant to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02A learning center. We have a special quote center. But the second story today, just to keep things flowing, uh, a boutique is selling lingerie with real taxidermied rats sewn to the crotch. Why? Why the rat? What's the is this some sort of weird fetish with the well, this is in Australia, which you're very familiar with. You know how they are, those wild ash average beats.
SPEAKER_01Something has got to feed the pussy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know. This is the only thing to absorb those summer, sweaty summer juice.
SPEAKER_03You all were thinking, and I was the only one that came out and said it. Come on. I was not thinking.
SPEAKER_02We're starting with the feet juice, right?
SPEAKER_03This is just going further downhill or uphill, I guess, from the feet. But yeah, maybe up.
SPEAKER_01What would you rat? Why a rat? Okay, what what animal would you um? I'm not even gonna put it.
SPEAKER_03I'm not going here with this on the karma side of things. No. I'm curious though, the rat. Like, what do you think? Why Ethan?
SPEAKER_01What animal would you put in there?
SPEAKER_06Uh, none of the above, but in this economy, I guess I wouldn't put anything past anybody doing whatever it takes to pay the bills.
SPEAKER_02This is outside of the box entrepreneurship, okay?
SPEAKER_01I think Atherton would put in the emu.
SPEAKER_02I I just complicates the karma situation. That's right. This is the flip side of karma. That was a bad idea.
SPEAKER_00I came home from work one day, and my second wife had two white rats in a box. We had been talking about getting a pet. Uh, that was not my idea of a pet, but uh as a curveball.
SPEAKER_01So she she had two two white rats in her box? White rats are supposed to be super clean.
SPEAKER_00In her box. Oh, yeah, no. Not her in a box. Oh, okay. Okay. I just she wasn't trying to replicate the uh Off C event there.
SPEAKER_03You thought she's coming on with a beagle and I heard a rat story on and I don't know who wrote this, but in and I told Trip about it when we were playing some golf.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Anyways, the this guy was saying that they threw they threw a pig carcass in a well. Okay. As you did. As you did, and all the rats went down in the well, and they ate the whole carcass down to the bone, down to nothing. And then, then, then afterwards, all the rats started killing each other. And he just waited there. And there was one rat that survived, and its eyes were all blood, just blood red, and it was just ripped to pieces. He took that rat out and let it go because he realized that that rat had learned how to eat the rest of the rats and it would spread within the rat colony. And then and then the metaphor was this is where we're at right now. He got you feeding off each other, each other. He's running back and attacking each other, and you're running rabbit, ignoring all the real problems. Rats, are just like the rats.
SPEAKER_02Definitely a ruthless type of species. Well, really, in Central Park, they're like freaking squirrel, like big fat, almost like a cat.
SPEAKER_03It's kind of cool, they don't have any birds of prey. So they get what they they bought it, man.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well they bought their ticket. I have a crazy rat story from a larger company I won't name that I worked for as a property manager, and they had like 800 units, including some slummy area units. And I went to do a showing and I went into the door and opened it, and the showing was in like 15 minutes, and a rat ran across the kitchen floor. So I just improvised and showed him a unit that was already rented to get him away from the unit. And I came back and I shut the door, and I heard after I shut the door and I looked back, and the rat's tail was stuck in the door, and he was hanging. He was hanging down his real long tail as a rat.
SPEAKER_03How big was that?
SPEAKER_02Y'all bigger than a cat type with his tail? Yeah, he wasn't New York City big, he wasn't Ninja Turtles big, but he was uh those Norwegian roof rats are they're big boys. Well, check this out. I was like, oh hell no, I'm not touching that thing. So I went out the back door and I kind of I felt bad while I was driving away that you know I left him in the door. So I came back and opened the door just to let him go, and another rat was eating him. And I had to sit there and wait. This big slimy tail and big fat.
SPEAKER_03Wait your turn? And this and this you want in your underwear skinned.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's makes sense. When you were a roadie in the 80s with Ted Nugent, didn't he have you wear this stuff all the time?
SPEAKER_01Cat trap fever, man.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, rat rat scratch.
SPEAKER_06Hold on, let's back up a second. For those who are at home and just listening in and can't see, when Randy talks about these rats, he held up his hands and it was something about the size of a cat.
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SPEAKER_02In New York City, they have the Ninja Turtle ones. So I went to the American Museum of Natural History, and it's just big fat fucker just going into behind the building. And then I was walking through Central Park, and another one just like a little monster. It's like, oh my god, that's freaking nuts. So freaking nuts. Well, and and but check this out. This is where it it gets interesting because this could be another uh this is kind of a Joe Exotic school of lingerie, but uh an Australian boutique called Rat Gizzard Oddities has gone viral for a line of women's lingerie featuring actual taxidermied rats sewn directly onto the fabric. The brand, which has spent years crafting curiosities and oddities from preserved animals, posted the first pair on Instagram on October, and predictably the uh the internet went wild. The creator named them longer rats because clever. Yeah, pretty clever little pun there. Was this out of India Times again? No, this is Australia. You know these fucking wild, it's just like the South. You have these wild ass Irish doing all this crazy shit. Australia's like a no man's land. Uh, the pieces aren't technically meant to be worn, but customers have been wearing them. For skeptics who assumed the whole thing was a stunt, they notice that they're actually being purchased. A pair would be 137 US dollars. So right on the crotch part of a lingerie.
SPEAKER_00So purchased by women who just want to be left alone.
SPEAKER_02This might be outside of the box, maybe in uh in this time of year.
SPEAKER_01Father's Day is coming around the corner, and so we've got more gift ideas from microphone monkeys.
SPEAKER_02We do the taxiderm rat underwear, you have them wear them, and then we resell them. This is all we there's a lot of ideas do in here.
SPEAKER_06It it's really brilliant uh marketing because you know that's a niche. That's a hell of a niche, and they have captured that market.
SPEAKER_02Captured in more ways than one. They captured live rodents and then uh captured the rat crotch market.
SPEAKER_00So hey baby, you want to come up to my room and see my etchings? Whoa, never mind.
SPEAKER_02This isn't a pet. This would be like a Myrtle Beach style. This is like a Joe Exotic Myrtle Beach Safari. Yeah, you know, this is we have all these ideas.
SPEAKER_03They're probably great with pickleball.
SPEAKER_06That's such a leap of logic, but I think you can see it though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, these are the logical deductions we do on this podcast. But the third story, keeping in line with borderline sexual uh themes, yeah, in Hoffman the sex machine.
SPEAKER_00A man call me the chick magnet for nothing.
SPEAKER_02A man practiced iron sand palm kung fu for 20 years and has three inch thick palms. He he claims it was from his palm kung fu. What do you claim? He's spanking the monkey or like what he he might be annihilating that monkey at three-inch palms.
SPEAKER_03Wait a minute. After you've got you got a go daddy site, right? You know, for those looking for the rat undies.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. We'll we'll have the the Ted Nugent school of rat undies and his private resale market.
SPEAKER_01And the and the uh and there's no relation between the linguini hanging between his legs, yeah. Angel hair pasta.
SPEAKER_00So check this out. That monkey is dead by now.
SPEAKER_02That shit has been choked down for a while now. So martial arts master Zhang Longjing.
SPEAKER_03This is made up as this is poetry. This is real art.
SPEAKER_00That's one hunglo's brother.
SPEAKER_03Oh man. You could throw in the Irish thing, it was so white you couldn't see it.
SPEAKER_02It is Zhang Longjing. So Longjing has his own workout routine, he does. So he's been practicing ancient kung fu art of iron sand palm for 20 years. He's gearing up. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's geared up. His his palms are twice the thickness of the average adult male. 53-year-old Zhang Wong Jing has been obsessed with kung fu since a young boy. But in 1998, after meeting the master of iron sand palm, he realized that his technique was wanting and dedicated his life to it. After more than 20 years of hard work, he is the master of the ancient art himself and has his thick hands to prove it. Oh, look at those poppies. Yes. Look at that.
SPEAKER_03Hey, you know, you know, you know what comes to mind? You they could model those hands, they could do like a fabrication of them and put them on. Those Chinese robots, and they can go around slapping kids.
SPEAKER_02I thought you were gonna do like a Hollywood Walk of Fame. You went a little darker with it.
SPEAKER_06It looks like he has edema in his hand.
SPEAKER_02He does, but it's all choking chicken meat. That literally looks like a chicken leg.
SPEAKER_00Parents used to say, if you keep doing that, you're gonna go blind. Now they can say, if you keep doing that, look at this picture here.
SPEAKER_03Again, why? It's kind of like the Radandis. It's like, why?
SPEAKER_02He said he practiced 6,000 times a day. There's no secret. The more you practice, the better you will be.
SPEAKER_01I struggle doing it twice a week.
SPEAKER_03Maybe the communist Chinese government paid him to do this.
SPEAKER_02It's hard to say. This is part of the private spontaneous order you can't control. Things like this just happen out of nowhere, and you can't predict it. But uh Will did say he's been working on a strength training lately. It's only two times a week now, but he he's he's working on it. Well, tied in to uh emotional control. See, I'm the king of transitions, and in man enraged by divorce filing, tears down the family home with an excavator while his family's still in it. Wow.
SPEAKER_06It's like Killdozer 2, the sequel.
SPEAKER_02This is Killdozer 2, the sequel, the angry single dad edition. So a Pennsylvania man was so outraged by his wife's divorce filing. See, if he would just practice proper kung fu, you'd have your angle.
SPEAKER_03Or knock a domain's hand. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02Seems half of Pennsylvania's immerle. A Pennsylvania man was so outraged by the divorce filing that he got in an excavator and started tearing down their own house with his spouse and two daughters in it. He caused so much damage that it screwed up the foundation of the house and they have to tear it down. 48-year-old Eric Peersois. His wife told him that their marriage was over and she had filed for divorce. She didn't exactly expect a positive reaction, but she also didn't expect him to literally bring the bring the house down. However, after a night of drinking, the man did just that, using a construction excavator to partially demolish his own property.
SPEAKER_00You see, that's a problem. He was on alcohol. Now, if he would have had some gummies, he would not have done that.
SPEAKER_02He could have meditated by the river like this he does.
SPEAKER_00Hey Dave, are you home, Dave? Hello. Oh honey, you can have it. Oh honey.
SPEAKER_02He did I didn't think of the killdozer angle on it, but he definitely did. This is killdozer divorce edition.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's right. I like that edition.
SPEAKER_02Right on the near the anniversary of uh the killdozer guy, too.
SPEAKER_06Right. And I mean, he's also uh you know preemptively uh taking steps to prevent his wife from getting the house, which is that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_02Yeah if you take out oh we'll just blow the whole fucking thing up with you. It's like I am legend.
SPEAKER_01His wife's boyfriend is going, well shit, that didn't work out the way I thought it would.
SPEAKER_02He'd cause so much damage to basically a third of the house, they they will have to uh uh uh uh uh demolish the whole house.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, keeping families together, one kill dozer at a time.
SPEAKER_02If uh, you know, we we've had some stories about you know ugly divorce proceedings going wild, and you know, this this is a novel way of dealing with it. Sometimes you have to think outside of the box. If he would have just fled to international waters after, he wouldn't have to deal with all the uh reckless endangerment charges either.
SPEAKER_03So nobody nobody got injured, correct?
SPEAKER_02No one's injured. Yeah. Yeah, just just the wife is crying about uh she doesn't get the house now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And the other man that he's not getting additional property.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he might leave now. They they don't get the five-bedroom now.
SPEAKER_00But I don't know why why would anybody get upset over a divorce? I'm always saying I haven't had so much fun since my first wife left.
SPEAKER_02It's not that bad. It's not that bad. Yeah, divorce is good, it frees you up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, some sometimes I miss my stuff and my money, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I will say this does sound like a mafia mic situation. Yeah. Uh yeah, so that's basically all I have for that one. But I thought that was interesting enough from base or uh it's a feel-good story.
SPEAKER_03It's a feel-good story. It's a feel-good story.
SPEAKER_02That is like live vicariously.
SPEAKER_03And it brings, you know what, it brings the community together. It does. It does, it shows social responsibility and action.
SPEAKER_00A good marriage counseling story. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Tying into being proactive. A man builds an autonomous AI-powered water gun to keep pigeons away. That's a great idea. I thought this was interesting from your angle because you are the bird specialist.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, you know, pigeons and spray guns work work really, really well to get them away. So that makes total sense.
SPEAKER_01But why is it AI powered?
SPEAKER_02To aim it or what to identify the pigeons, see when they're close, yeah, and to set fire on them.
SPEAKER_01And it and it says, okay, that's a blue jay. I'm not gonna hit the blue jay. I'm gonna hit the bigger.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's that's my uh my neighbor. I'm not gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_03Pigeons are really, really smart too. So on top of it, they get hit a bunch of times. They're not coming back.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they'll remember that. They're not. So he said uh in the article, tired of having to deal with pigeons pooping on your balcony, a resourceful man built a do-it-yourself AI-powered water gun that recognizes pigeons and shoots at them upon identification. It's amazing what modern technology can do, even with everyday problems we struggle with. So, case in point, a tech savvy Reddit user built an autonomous water gun that recognizes pigeons with his AI software when they approach his balcony and they start shooting jets of water at them immediately.
SPEAKER_03But I mean, you remember, we invented the pigeon. I mean, we bred the pigeon to be what the pigeon is. It's not a natural occurrence. They're they're bred to be alongside us. They do tricks, they do tumbles, they brought messages. People have been breeding and raising pigeons for I'd say probably thousands of years. And they've been completely modified to fit us, and that's why the dependency towards us they're naturally bred to be near us, so we can get angry and upset. Oh my god, a bird. But we we did it to ourselves with the pigeon.
SPEAKER_01Well, what about seagulls? How come they're always hanging around us on the beach?
SPEAKER_06Look, if it flies, it spies, okay.
SPEAKER_01There we go.
SPEAKER_03There we go. There it is.
SPEAKER_01There it is. The truth bomb has been dropped.
SPEAKER_02The truth bomb has been dropped. Russia. Are we gonna go to the none of this is real again? We know Russia is now putting brain implants in pigeons. Sure. Strapping drones to their chest. We've discussed this. I believe I discussed this with Ethan. That's true. Yeah, but in World War II.
SPEAKER_01In World War II, the Russians were also the geniuses to strap bombs to dogs to try to blow up German tanks. But unfortunately, they uh they they were you know very limited in money, so they trained them on their tanks, but their tanks weren't moving because they couldn't afford to burn up the petrol. So when they got out in the field, the dogs uh saw the smelly uh you know uh diesel German tanks, and instead either ran under the uh Russian tanks that they're familiar with, or they ran back to their masters.
SPEAKER_03That's always a good that's a good one.
SPEAKER_01There's always unintended consequences.
SPEAKER_03This doesn't work your way, does it?
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_03Another great ape failure. Nothing to do with the weather, people. The weather's fine. Statistically.
SPEAKER_02Statistically, it's fine. The most libertarian HOA move of all time, though. Well, that's true, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, along with tearing down the house with your own excavator. Yeah. That's more vigilante, justice.
SPEAKER_03Pigeons, pigeons have a long history of war in us. Oh really? Yeah, we've been using them in war for a long time.
SPEAKER_02Messages and stuff, yeah. All sorts of stuff. Communications. Well, they learn property rights the hard way.
SPEAKER_00So if we eat a pigeon, it's not a pigeon, right? It's a squab, right?
SPEAKER_03They do that in Spain. I almost had that mistake. Yeah. Squab.
SPEAKER_01Squab. Squab.
SPEAKER_03It's gotta be something oily, oily scenario. Greasy. I didn't I didn't do it.
SPEAKER_01Two and a half men. Squab. Squab. I like the name of the squab.
SPEAKER_03I thought about it for a minute. I'm like, okay, we've already got the snails. Why not just go with the pigeon?
SPEAKER_02Well, we talk about strategy tactics with libertarianism and doing it small scale. This is an HOA move. You could do it anyhow. Sure. And AI is so all you need to get is a Walmart squirt gun, some sort of AI-powered Chinese robot thing, and you're good to go. If a Reddit user can do it. But I just thought that was a private defense slash libertarian HOA story. So that's that's a good one. Talking about uh another, it could be considered visual anti justice. A fireworks truck catches fire in Tennessee Highway and all the fireworks explode. So you have to double check with Mafia, Mike, and Will and may see what they're up to. It's in Tennessee. I didn't know if this was retaliation. Uh a truck carrying uh firefighters in Tennessee had to respond to an unexpected early uh 4th of July scene after a truck got fired on a major highway with a and the whole entire load of fireworks went off, triggering a spectacular uh display, video of the scene on Interstate 75 showed a cloud of sparks and rockets emerging from a trailer. Sounds great. The truck was hauling with a stunned crowd watching from the overpass. The Tri-Community Volunteer Fire Department said the trailer was full of fireworks, all of which became involved in a fire explosion incident.
SPEAKER_01And then the Hooties announced that they were responsible.
SPEAKER_02This does seem like a Timothy McVeigh slash Hamas move.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's because you're in Lebanon. Yeah, we're gonna take we're gonna take out you know part of I-40. See, this crazy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this could send a message though. Maybe you come to South Carolina, buy a bunch of fireworks, or go onto a reservation, stock up an entire U-Hall and fireworks, go to City Council or the HOA or whatever, not advocating this. No. In any way. This is not advocating. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It reminds me of uh V for Vendetta, how he blows up Big Ben with uh in the Parliament building.
SPEAKER_02This is a Guy Fawkes move on this one. Right. What's more American than blowing up a bunch of fireworks on the interstate?
SPEAKER_06Right.
SPEAKER_02On the interstate, send a message. So, you know, right into July 4th season, too. You could shut down I-95. Ah, yeah, there we go. Theoretically, I I want to do the Brandenburg Jeremy Kaufman test.
SPEAKER_01But how can I get to south of the border then? The cultural center of South Carolina.
SPEAKER_02I know, I know. But uh that that was basically the full stream of uh stories this week.
SPEAKER_03Well, no, no, it can't be because I heard the war is over.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the war again? The war's over again? Yeah, it's over again. India just threatened today because apparently U.S. ships bombed and killed three Indian commercial ship people going through the hormouths. Is that an act of war? Probably. People weren't scared.
SPEAKER_01We're gonna shut down all the 7-Elevens, you sund the beaches.
SPEAKER_03No more curry for you? No more curry for you. What why are we killing people again? I keep forgetting. It's hard to keep up with this this. Which is what you do from time to time. Oh. Because then yeah, who wants it? What? You aren't American? I'm American. I think we should blow up things because I like the cost of it, and the costs are good to spend.
SPEAKER_02Well, here's the thing: when Israel needs an enemy to f annihilated, and they've wanted it for India's their enemy now? I guess it now you get India, Pakistan, all of our friends. It's all wrapped together.
SPEAKER_03Well, those guys don't even like each other, but okay. I know. Maybe they can all come together and hate everybody.
SPEAKER_02Well, here's what's funny: because we're friendly with India and Pakistan. Pakistan is more a neutral power that's been trying to negotiate with us through Pakistan. Yeah, that was nice. Yeah, and that worked out well. But in Pakistan has nukes just like Israel.
SPEAKER_03So does India. So why okay? We're killing their tradespeople who perform commerce.
SPEAKER_02We're two days away from a peace agreement, Darren.
unknownSheez of God.
SPEAKER_02Can you stop being a dubby downer? What you like? Two days away.
SPEAKER_01Just because people are getting killed doesn't mean we don't like peace.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. We've got to kill them during the peace talks to send a message.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's why Israel helps with Lebanon. They they help interfere with.
SPEAKER_03It's a real estate deal like Cuba.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. This was gonna go just like Venezuela, okay? So just calm down. It's gonna be fine. You know, I feel it in my wallet. He's playing 16D chess. He's 11th dimensional hyper chess. That's right. So this will be fine. Lindsay says it's an act of God. Well, Lindsey Graham, our great senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, was in a New York Times story. He went like a dozen times to Israel coaching them on how to persuade Trump to do the Iran invasion to begin with. So I'm glad all of our South Carolina tax dollars are going to sending Lindsey Graham to uh the Middle East.
SPEAKER_00Here's one thing I don't understand about Trump's war strategy. So here's Iran. They launch a bunch of ballistic missiles, let's say 50 ballistic missiles, on Israel and all Arab neighboring countries. And Trump responds by saying, I'll get you. We're gonna extend the ceasefire for another 60 days.
SPEAKER_02What's that all about? You know, here's the thing. I think honestly, uh it's like Napoleon. We were just talking about Russia. Yeah, the little guy. Russia is also hard to go into. And Larry Sharp, who've spent a guest on here, was mentioning this is kind of like a Napoleon move. He was doing Austerlitz and he was this genius, and he was a military genius, but he stretched it too far going into Russia into winter, overextended himself, and the whole Jenga Tower collapsed, where he ended up exiled.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So we we need to find an island. That's what you're saying.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think that's part of the Cuba transition. Let's go ahead and let this die out, and then we'll uh and Iran uh has they use that as a negotiation tool. So it's basically when you rip up the Iran deal, which had them under 3% enrichment, they started opting it as negotiation, but they never enriched and created a nuclear bomb. They've been using that as negotiation. That's a tactic. And it now it's turned into Netanyahu setting the terms. So until we invade and get all the enriched uranium of whatever was there, uh the war's not over. And Israel keeps bombing Lebanon and getting involved in the middle of everything. That's why there was that story the other day where he was screaming at Netanyahu.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's a it's a it's a very uh soap opera like thing. It really is. It is, it is. It's definitely a lot of drama. Lots of drama. And they time this stuff for the markets too. Like today's a Friday, so there's got to be something to roll out for the markets.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's hard to say. Unfortunately, for how the pendulum swings with this, this might be the beginning of it going super hard, hard. Oh, Afghanistan 3.0. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm concerned about the midterms.
unknownOh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the midterms uh eat I I'm really concerned since there's only two choices. I'm really concerned about the outcome.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, and you always have a Scott Horton mentions this all the time. There's a very large risk when it scales to this level of having domestic incidents. Oh, it's so which would triple escalate the whole thing.
SPEAKER_03There was that gas pipeline that just kind of blew up over there near Ukraine and it was mysteriously done. Yeah. Do you think that sort of blowback is possible? Or I mean, are we we're just dealing with people who are subpar intelligence so that they don't know how to do those kind of things.
SPEAKER_02Well, here's the thing that's scary. So we occupied the Arabian Peninsula, which was the leading reason we got attacked all through the 90s and on 9-11. Um, do you but they would never do that? Well, yeah, just it's it's scary how this is escalating.
SPEAKER_03And the power plants aren't, you know, they're fully taken care of. Right? I mean, because our infrastructure is on par with like Asia. So there's nothing that could happen to our infrastructure. They put so much money and effort into it from the $39 trillion they've accumulated in debt.
SPEAKER_06This is sarcasm coming from Baron, right?
SPEAKER_03Of course. It's hard to tell some people. My whole feeling is how can I give them more so we can screw this up even further?
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's part of uh we can't even Israel has what, two or three hundred plutonium bombs like we dropped on Nagasaki. They are not, they're the only country on the planet Earth who hasn't admitted they have nuclear bombs, and the only reason we can fund them is them denying it because we can't legally fund governments that are in violation of the non-proliferation treaty. Yeah, and they started building up nukes right as Iran and Egypt were signing the non-proliferation treaty. They started the Middle Eastern nuclear arms race by them building them up in the 60s. They threatened to deploy them during the 67 war.
SPEAKER_03What's a treaty, dude? I mean, it's kind of like all the buffalo that died. What's a treaty?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. APAC funds every member of the U.S. Congress. Now, what are the chances that we're not gonna fund Israel?
SPEAKER_01Except for one, but that was uh never Trumper, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's gone.
SPEAKER_02There's only one left. Yeah, well, one person who uh didn't have the APAC agent come in, all of a sudden uh they they spent $30 million to get rid of it. It's a fair election, dude.
SPEAKER_03I mean, it's all on the blockchain, it's verifiable. Miriam Adelson has our best interests.
SPEAKER_02That's why she hates the U.S. I mean, who forces? She's not fond of home.
SPEAKER_03Whoever come up, whoever came up with work permits and no voting rights and no benefits? Who came up with that? Well, check this out. I mean, we can't have that. I mean, we're look, they're so upset now about all this immigration thing that they're up in arms about geese that won't leave. Seriously.
SPEAKER_01They need aid.
SPEAKER_03They're up in arms about the geese that won't leave. The immigrant geese from Canada aren't leaving. So this is what you go back to Canada? No, it's a real problem. We got to kill the geese now because we've run out of options and we're done killing people. Who's there gonna be the leadership? That's where the water gun comes in and AI. We can do it adapted. Oh my god, we could have like we could modify lawn mowers with spray guns to chase the geese.
SPEAKER_05And that's all I got to say about that.
SPEAKER_02The immigrant geese, we gotta chase them down. Yeah. Did you guys follow this Carmelo Anthony thing? Hong Kong key? Not really.
SPEAKER_01Oh man.
SPEAKER_02I just started hearing about that. Yeah, I well, I mean they found him guilty. Yeah, but that was a big stabber.
SPEAKER_03There's so many stabbers, it's just like I can't keep up with all the stabbing.
SPEAKER_02Well, what in the UK was it the one where the That was Ireland? Or is it Ireland?
SPEAKER_03Ireland. Is Sikh a Hindu thing? No, Sikh is they're they're different than Hindus. I mean, it's the same.
SPEAKER_06But they're over there in that part of the world.
SPEAKER_03They're in that part of the world. They share similarities, and the knife is a very symbolic thing for them. I mean, they they're they've been warriors. That's why, like when you look at the Indian Army, it's mostly Sikhs. They're they're the warriors. Right. But hey, guess what? There are crazy people everywhere. I don't know if you've noticed. They come in all shapes and sizes and they're freaking nuts, and they do things. Well, they have to. So we gotta go, we have to have a rule of law that says when you hurt and kill people, uh, there's punishment. And that doesn't disqualify whatever locality you're well.
SPEAKER_01The riot in Belfast, uh, the people want to uh secede from Great Britain and join Ireland.
SPEAKER_03Well, they've been doing that for our whole lives.
SPEAKER_01Not I mean, this is the first time Northern Ireland is this is the first time the orange have been uh going with them. This is you're you're you're confusing the the green, but the orange have been.
SPEAKER_02No, I get I get the whole I get the whole concept, and this has been going on for a long time. Murray Rothbard had a thing on the whole United Ireland thing about if you could do all of the Northern Irish sections, whatever counties or whatever they are in Northern Ireland, and have them like vote one by one. But unfortunately, it's so mixed. I I think that's what they're talking about each other, they're all talking.
SPEAKER_03Each other, but roll back here a little bit, just roll back a little bit. They've got all these people migrating to a tight community there, okay? And they come in and they don't obey the laws, and then the laws don't punish them because of collective guilt. That's a huge problem when you have people that get the benefits of harming and don't be held responsible. Don't be held responsible. Now you can divide that like the rats eating the pig. You can divide that and go, well, it's X person, it's all the X-people that do this. Or you can say the crime and the violence is what is wrong and hold that accountable. They're not, they're wimps. They're wimps, and that's why their city's burning.
SPEAKER_01I think what's significant of North Ireland this time is that the you have both the Protestants and the Catholics that are joining in saying, this is unconscionable, it's not right. Uh England is not is not supporting what we need here.
SPEAKER_03Neither are there courts. Neither are there courts. And it's collective guilt. It's like this whole crusader guilt. I feel really bad for being a colonial. Were you a colonialist? Were you alive then? So get over it. If somebody harms you, harms their property, it's really simple. That's breaking the law. Doesn't matter who you are, where you're from, you're breaking the law. Get over it. Do something. Well, it's if they're attacking your children, and if they're attacking the elderly, hold real a rule of law.
SPEAKER_01That's what they're upset about. Or you're gonna have a problem. Is not letting them do it. Exactly. Yeah. Because he's a collectivist.
SPEAKER_03And it's collective guilt.
SPEAKER_02That is the problem.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's funny because the recent New York City story where that cashier guy defended himself and stabbed a guy and then he ended up getting arrested.
SPEAKER_01What was that stabbing motion you made? Stabbing. Stabbing. You have three-inch palms.
SPEAKER_00So what's wrong with what's wrong with guilt? I mean, every Sunday I go to Our Lady of Perpetual Guilt.
SPEAKER_02You know, that's not a bad thing. Here we go again. Well, so Northern Ireland's trying to secede from Great Britain. Is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER_01That's what some of the protesters want. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's interesting because Alberta has the secession thing. And I saw a letter from Thomas Jefferson the last year he was alive in 1826, where he said he views every single state, this is verbatim, as an independent nation.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Right.
SPEAKER_02And Congress is a construct of an agreement of these independent nations. He always called Virginia his country.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And never referred to the colonies. The Treaty of Paris that ended the Revolutionary War, they said the 13 free and independent states of the colonies didn't refer to any collective of the United States. Right. All in capitals. Right.
SPEAKER_06They were nation states.
SPEAKER_02They were nations.
SPEAKER_00I don't think he was reading too much of uh Lysander Spooner.
SPEAKER_02Well, Lysander Spooner brought it even more extreme down to the person. But it's interesting how uh people hate the idea of secession. And Jefferson wrote the Kentucky resolutions on nullification over John Adams' alien and sedition acts, where he also did the compact theory that these are independent nations. And Hamilton and them said, no, we're all it's it's like a Venus flytrap tip.
SPEAKER_01Well, let me remind our listeners too on the Bookworm Mom. Uh she has uh coming up a uh an episode. I can't remember if it's dropped already or if it's one that's coming up. It's uh uh the uh A.R. uh Salier in his book, the um was it the the The Nation State of Texas, and he talks about the you know the secession and how that's built into their their state constitution. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So it's very uh very they're the only ones that have a complete electric grid for their state, also.
SPEAKER_03I I'm my own nation state and I want to be left alone.
SPEAKER_01They also unceded California uh this last month, and um and it's first time this happened to California for having the most um the most uh uh immigrants. No, no, five hundred uh New Texans. No, no, five hundred uh uh GDP uh no no the house ribs, legislators? Excuse me. No, cross dressers, yeah. Okay, the stock market the top 500 in stock market. Uh they're producing companies. Exactly. S P 500, thank you. S P 500, they've got the most of those companies in their state, and they have the most dollars uh produced in their state. Uh California is absolutely still on the they're they're deteriorating, they're going down.
SPEAKER_03So uh this I don't verify this, but evidently Alabama is scoring higher for middle schoolers in math and English. That's correct. California. Oh Alabama.
SPEAKER_01I can I can vouch that's that is absolutely true.
SPEAKER_00Well, and that's they tax everything that walks. I mean, what could go wrong?
SPEAKER_02Well, it's funny because the last 30 years everyone's moving to the South, and New York City has Mom Donnie going after Ken Griffith. California just said their billionaires tax, so all these competitions.
SPEAKER_03Did the billionaires tax tax pass?
SPEAKER_02I don't know if it passed. I don't know, but I mean they can't even figure out who their mayor is in lots of. Just the chilling effect of that, they lost half of their billionaires in California.
SPEAKER_01Well, Wall Street has now gone to Y'all Street. Uh everything's going to Dallas and Fort Worth. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, that was another mom Miami gift. Dallas. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But well, and that's that's something funny about it's like Atlas Shrugged in practice. Yeah. Because we're so large, we're like the size of Europe, people can adapt to these. And I they can move. They can move. New Hampshire has no income tax. Delaware, I think, has no income tax. A lot of states in the South, like Florida and Texas and Tennessee.
SPEAKER_01Well, let's disaffiliate from New Hampshire.
SPEAKER_03I think it's a good idea to leave the topless gun protesters up there in New Hampshire. Wasn't that their thing? I love that.
SPEAKER_02New Hampshire's also mentioned secession. It's not the free thing. Well, they always do.
SPEAKER_03They are always.
SPEAKER_06I thought it was written in their constitution. They've got some kind of clause. It might be secession.
SPEAKER_03If you haven't seen it, you can find it. If you haven't seen it, you can find it. Derek J's victimless crime spree out of New Hampshire. And it's a documentary during the uh Obama times about the radicals in Keene, New Hampshire. Oh yeah. And Derek J is is funny gay. And he's he's a total gun freak, open carry freak, and he just runs around violating all these ridiculous laws. Yeah. You know, and and goes to jail for it all the time.
SPEAKER_01Kind of like Adam Kokesh doing his dancing at the monuments.
SPEAKER_03It's like that. It's exactly like that. But Derek J is hilariously funny. He's really, really funny. Well, I don't know where he is now. I I would love he would be a great person to talk to.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you guys haven't dated in a while.
SPEAKER_03I'm not into the dating.
SPEAKER_00Let's get back to the secessionist movement. Uh New Englanders are very independent. One of the earliest secessionist movements was the Copperhead movement out of Maine. A long time ago, during the colonial days, they they threatened to secede from the Union.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's a Hartford Convention, and the New England Federalists want it out. It's too cold for me up there. I can't go now.
SPEAKER_01They have an iron head that's running for uh Congress up there.
SPEAKER_03And they don't have any good, they don't have any good barbecue, do they? They don't have any good barbecue. I'm not visiting.
SPEAKER_02Well, Kaufman said we should go up there. It's an entrepreneurial thing for uh open up a barbecue place. BBQ shop in New Hampshire.
SPEAKER_06Well, so so what do we do about all this? And let's invite any of the listeners to uh you know comment and pitch in and stuff like what can we do to achieve more liberty in our lifetime? Can I take the conversation that direction?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. Well, it actually ties into the Kaufman podcast because we talked about organizational theory. So you have hardcore left-wing states like what Larry Sharp deals with in New York, where it's you have to just stop certain things or educate people, but you have the least amount of leverage. You have supermajority states like here in Louisiana, where it's really bad. It's almost similar in a way to somewhere like New York, where all the time you don't have this infrastructure like New Hampshire has. So we're just spending all this time trying to stop things, stop the worst bills, get coalitions with the Army Americans for liberty and everyone else, or we had a Green Party thing with the candidate filing.
SPEAKER_00What can you do to save more liberty in our lifetime? It's easy. Go to www.libertycrackmedia.com. Hit that donate button.
SPEAKER_02I like that too. Well, and here's the thing where states like New Hampshire are on the other extreme. So they have a whole free state project infrastructure plus liberty Republicans, which we really don't have. It's a very small minority. And the Freedom Caucus here is isolated, they're not put on any committees. It's all there, they have a clampdown on it, and it's all these establishment Republicans. Uh, but in New Hampshire, they have Free State plus Liberty Republicans plus LPNH. So they all work in unison and pressure the non-Liberty Republicans to pass gun nullification laws.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna I'm gonna also uh jump in and and uh focus on what Ethan was proffering. Um all this political stuff to me is garbage. We can put up we can put up all the people that we want to to get defeated in in elections all day long, which is what they want us to do. Um we can keep funding them to go on to these elections, which they take that money and then use that for their primaries, especially here in South Carolina. Or we could sit there and recognize that everything is downstream from culture. And we can sit there and influence by getting more and more liberty-minded people like us to influence our culture. In um, I don't care if it's going to be in doing pottery, in doing uh, you know, uh stained glass windows, podcasts, music, poetry, lingerie, lingerie, lingerie, lingerie. Absolutely. Just all these things, if we can sit there and get liberty into the culture, and then also get it into the educational system, into the independent educational system to promote it, uh, to let people you know go in there and and instruct them. But we've got to also concentrate on getting megaphones. We've got to start seeing if we can get collective people uh like this group, you know, see if we could grow to maybe get a few more studios up, possibly get some uh, you know, radio is dying, maybe get a few absolute broadcast stations or small networks. And then if we could get that, we could get uh the eyes and ears on some of the creators that we have out there. We've got great libertarian artists out there, uh Five Finger Death Punch, um uh uh Tatiana Moreau. We've got all these wonderful people that are out there doing these these things. Um, and we could promote them. Of course, there are you know bands that aren't even doing stuff anymore that was very uh big, like uh oh, what was the uh out of Texas? Um uh backwards. Yeah, backwards.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's more doing the comic book stuff. But you're you're right. I mean, a voice is really appropriate right now, and open lines of communication with people of all different mindsets and engaging with them, not attacking them, engaging with them and allowing, you know, speaking about freedom, freedom to exist, freedom to coexist, freedom to co-exchange is a huge, huge thing in the era that we're in right now. Um I I I like the gorist approach of non-compliance with technology, non-compliance within the market space and really breaking them down by not using their tools, not using their technology, not being a part of their market and creating your own market and co-creating that market with other people.
SPEAKER_01Being in the grid is being part of the collective market.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and you can break this grid in so many ways. And and with AI and robotics coming, we're gonna be able to use these tools in non-conforming market ways that break it, that open up freedom. And I think embracing that is gonna be huge.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, agarism. Read the book, The New Libertarian Manifesto.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00Tell you all about agarm.
SPEAKER_03Well, and one quick thing on Is it Ron Paul? Or is it Murra Ruthbart? It's no, no, it's Conkin. Konkin's amazing. And apply his theories to technology, right? Right? And then you can throw in Hinduism there too, because it fits perfectly with decentralization and just blasting the doors open.
SPEAKER_02Well, and one thing on the bird's eye view, because we all work in the liberty world in differing forms, and you when you're at the fully most effective area, like New Hampshire out of all 50 states, really is where it's like Captain Planet and everyone's working from every direction. Yeah. But one thing, if you look at historically, because you're talking about getting attention, influence, get like Dave Smith. All the most influential persuasive guys in the Liberty movement are not really part of any specific organization like the LP. Yeah. It's Dave Smith, Scott, uh, Tom Woods, Scott Horton, etc.
SPEAKER_01Well, and talk about big ones like uh uh Cat Timf, that's there. Um Lisa Montgomery. Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But a lot of these people can participate. Well, but yeah, they come in, they go out, and and we kind of have to operate like that. Well, and this you see initiatives that have potential and work, get in there and help it work. Don't sit on the sidelines and find an argument with your own team. Get in there and do something. Well, here's a quick example. In fighting is nonsense.
SPEAKER_02Well, here's a quick example. Abolitionists. So we mentioned this on the podcast. When you have something like the Reform Party, which is kind of how the LP in general works, not in like in this state or anything, but just in general, it's where you're doing all this administrative trap and work, and you think you're being productive, but you're not because no one is aware of what you're doing and you're in asilo. When you look at all these successful movements, even non-libertarian ones, like abolitionism, prohibition, temperance, uh, suffrage, whatever, when they went. Yeah. Well, it's just when it goes to electoral politics. Yeah. So it basically you go for you go in like three stages. You go from where you have ideas propagated and you influence and get attention. And once that starts catching on, then you scale up with all of those groups. This is how it happened. And then once you get enough attention and influence, like thanks with podcasts and independent media and Dave Smith, look at the Saran Moore thing. I mean, Dave Smith's all over Piers Morgan, he's all over the place. Affect Joe Rogan, affecting the Overton window, and it puts our ideas out in the ether, and then you get support, then the final stage is electoral politics. And it's always there, and you know it's need a structure there doing that. But if you don't get attention and influence first, you'll go nowhere, like podcasts, like people on independent media, like whatever, and you're not influencing anything, that will turn into administrative trap. And the reform party did that. They had all this money and structure going in with like Rospero in the 90s, but there were no influence behind it. Yeah, so it cut it.
SPEAKER_00How do you talk without breathing?
SPEAKER_03I'll throw it, I'll throw another thing in there.
SPEAKER_00I think my low-level gummy light just went on, so I might have to leave her person.
SPEAKER_03I would like to throw this out with what Ethan was saying. It's like, and I think it's really, really, really true. You gotta start with you. If you don't have your physical health taken care of, and you don't have your mental health taken care of, and you don't have your economical health taken care of, you're a victim in this system. You gotta start with you, you gotta clear that stuff out and you can have a well-oiled machine so that you can be effective.
SPEAKER_00And Rand, the virtue of selfishness.
SPEAKER_02Well, and that's just going out. We're at 59 minutes. Uh we all put a lot of time, energy, and effort in different ways into the overall liberty movement. Yeah. And knowing how you can be effective and get towards this final goal helps everyone get motivated. And Jeremy Kaufman did that one final thing. That he didn't name him the guy at activist in New Hampshire that says if the people who are having fun win. Yeah. And if you get in this administrative trap, you lose. If you're having fun and you're getting attention and you're going out there and getting things done, you have the momentum and energy. Okay, wait, that's called bliss. No goal.
SPEAKER_01And uh freedom markets. Well, that's been another episode of microphone monkeys.