Just A Random Day In The Cave

From college ball to the NBA to the NFL, we’re all over the place this episode. Breaking things down, overreacting where needed, and probably getting a few things completely wrong.

Transcript

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Back in the cave.

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14.

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Episode 14.

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We are alive from the cave. It's never gonna stop. Man, and it's also not a real cave. It's not. As always. You know, it's been kind of quiet on the uh offseason news front. Uh we're gonna get into some things with the NFL. One thing I wanted to get into with it being slow in the NFL, man, let's talk some March Madness. Tell me your thoughts. It's been kind of crazy. In a sense. Not really. I mean, Iowa, in their little run. It's a little chalky. I mean, Iowa to the Elite Eight was chalk.

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It's dead. Yeah, like you had Iowa. That was that was that was pretty much it, right?

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Yeah.

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High point won a game against Wisconsin.

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I mean, you still had like some upsets. Texas. Yeah, Texas made it towards the team. Which I mean, you know, we're not talking about like, you know, Cinderella's for real. I mean, these are still, you know, power four conferences.

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I got I got a question. Will there ever be a run like Butler had those two years?

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Man, I mean you kind of just saw that, like, in a in a way with like Florida Atlantic.

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That's true.

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Yes, San Diego State made a run. I don't think like it's going to be like how it used to be.

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Florida Atlantic's probably the most comparable. But that Butler team of Gordon, that team and Shelvin Mack, that team was nice. They were so close.

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Yeah, but I mean, it's you know, you get one of those great coaches in a program like that, it can happen. I just think it's gonna be so much harder to do it in this NIL shit. Because, like, you know, you go out there, think about how many guys from these schools that had these moments in March here, right? And had good seasons as well.

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They're they're just gonna get paid by somebody else in the Yeah, a team like Boston College is gonna come in and pick teams apart. It's gonna no team, like, you know, there will be no Fairley Dickinson. They'll just get picked, they'll be like, hey, here's 600 grand to come play at Boston College. Yeah, and a team like and one of these smaller teams can't aff can't do that. Yeah, right. Yeah, they'll just always get their talent picked off.

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Man, I just like you know, the NIL is crazy.

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It would just have to be, it would have to be a a little school like that that has a donor with some some real fuck you money.

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Yeah, I mean, I mean that's all it takes to like build that, but man, it's just like there was rumblings that that Mr.

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Beast was gonna give like Eastern Carolina some crazy amount of money for their football.

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But if he started funneling his YouTube money in the Eastern Carolina dog, that'd be so sick. Yeah, absolutely.

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That'd be so sick.

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That'd be crazy. Uh and look, and part of the NIL money that he they like he can just do like Beast games with them.

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You know what we're gonna do if we ever blow up? We're gonna get a sponsorship on a college jersey. Ah, bro.

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We're gonna buy a patch. Who are we going to invest our money into?

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If we didn't go to college, it'll be like UAB or something.

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We're just gonna throw a dart and just buy a university honorary alumni.

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We'll just jump schools.

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We're just gonna pick one of those teams we would pick in a like to rebuild in college football at the time where we'll just do it in real life.

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Wherever we don't feel like we have very good listenership, that's where we're gonna do it at.

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And we and just start like a small local radio up there. And it and it's just us, like just a bunch of we're not like just us constantly talking about whatever's going on, like we're reporters. So uh we do commentary during the games, we just just constantly just 24-7.

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I would actually I would love the opportunity to call a basketball game. I don't think I could. I think it would probably take you know, like a week of research. If it was two teams that you knew, I wouldn't.

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I would just be too into watching it.

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Nah, dude.

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From like right up there.

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You could do it. I don't know if I could do I don't know if I could do what like Gus Johnson or Kevin Harlan or Ion Eagle does, but I could do the color commentary part.

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Like talk about the talk about like what just happened. Yeah, like you you wouldn't be able to do like the live stuff.

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Man, dude, those dudes are special.

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Yeah.

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That stuff can make or break a game.

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Absolutely.

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You can have a good game with bad announcers, it's over, and it can ruin the game for you. It can ruin the experience.

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Like, I I feel like from like a personality perspective, I could do it.

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Like, this is no shot at this is this is no shot at Wibbit or anything, but have you ever heard the Oakland Athletics announcer?

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No.

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Oh my god. You gotta go check it out.

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I mean, I mean, like, I'm talking, bro, like if you like small, any of these like small school like games, yeah, like where they have like they're just like their local person doing it. Oh, bro, I could definitely bring a little more oomph than that to it.

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We could we could take over Austin P.

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Oh man. We could make it electric. We could just get it a platform.

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Matter of fact, that'll be our first team we get. Austin P. That'll be our first team. It's kind of local. That'll be our first team we can get.

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Can't exactly uh do it to Hopkinsville Community College.

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Not an option.

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So Austin P, yeah, for sure. We'll say that. Yeah. Bro, we just grow up, we just put a ton of money into it.

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Murray State's kind of a legitimate basketball program, though.

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And well, we're just gonna build like the greatest athletic school of all time.

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Yeah, I'm I'm down with that. Murray State gives us somewhere to start. We can get the football program D1. Oh the races. Man. I promise you. Who you think is gonna win the tournament?

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Uh well, I picked Duke. But man, uh I mean, just from what I've seen, like, it just feels like Arizona's kind of turned it on. They kind of feel like how uh like UConn did a couple years that first year they won the title. They were just beating the shit out of everybody.

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Yeah. Arizona's probably my pick as well.

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Which I mean, this is a I mean, we're watching them in a dogfight right now with Purdue, but I mean, I'm still gonna roll with Duke. I don't think Arizona's gonna win the ship. I think they can. I don't know, man. I feel like they're the best team. Who, Arizona? Yeah. Michigan's pretty nice. Yeah, that's true too. Watch it, it's just like, you know, is that who it's between? Well, yeah, I'm I'm gonna go to the show.

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Is it between Michigan, Duke, and Arizona?

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For me, yeah. Which I mean, I said that coming into the tournament.

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So Illinois I had Houston in there. I'm a big fan of Houston, but Illinois, who is now in the Final Four, has no chance. Is that what I'm hearing?

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I feel like it's gonna take one of those things where where uh Waggler has to go crazy. Like he's gonna need like a 40 burger.

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He's sick.

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He's gonna have yeah, he is. This draft class is insane. It's gonna be nice.

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It's maybe one of the greatest ever. From a death perspective, like very O3-esque.

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You oh man, you think it's gonna be that good?

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Yeah, I do. There's a couple, like, I have a couple question marks. Like, I think Cameron Boozer's a question mark. Really? I do.

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Oh, he's sick.

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It just seems like he struggles with questions.

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Your boy, your boy is a question mark.

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Darren Peterson mark. The largest question mark.

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He's so sick though. He's gonna come out here and pull a kawaii.

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He's so sick though. Management come out here and just pick up a ball and just yeah, like you're not telling me if he was to get drafted to the Washington Wizards. He's got they're gonna be fucking, they're gonna be 9 and 22 to start the season.

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I don't know, bro. They got Trey Young out there now.

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Yeah, Anthony Davis.

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It seems like it honestly seems like some of these teams that are like at the bottom are like building something. Yeah, that's fine.

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That's like saying, that's like saying Sacramento's gonna be building something.

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I'm not talking about like the Jazz. I like what the Jazz are doing.

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Yeah. But like if yeah, but the Jazz aren't gonna get Darren Peterson. I like the thing. It's gonna be the Sacramento Kings. If he went to Sacramento, they're gonna be horrible. Well, Sabonis is gonna be back. It doesn't matter. They're gonna be terrible. It's gonna be Darren Peterson, Zach Levine, DeMar DeRozan. Come on, man. Sabonis. It's terrible. I mean, they're gonna get rid of they're gonna get rid of one of those wing players, but there's really nowhere where he can go to start out where it's gonna be great. You don't say that.

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I mean somewhere like Washington.

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Like if Cameron Boozer ends up in the right place, I think he can be good.

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Where's the right place? So so like who like you don't think that they're who's gonna go there and be good like anywhere they go?

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AJ DeMont, stuff. He's sick. He's sick. It doesn't matter where he goes. He's got that dog in him too. Something you wouldn't say Darren Peterson has. Does not nah. You'd say that he lacks dog.

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He wants to just kick it. He wants to get paid. He wants to be a member of the BCA. Yo, he is well on his way to being a member of the BCA. He is well on his way.

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Oh man.

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But uh really all of these freshmen are on their way to being part of the BCA.

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Acuff is sick. Yeah.

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I like him a lot. There's a world where he should be the number one overall draft pick.

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Man, this this draft class is unbelievable.

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The Kingston Fleming kid from Houston, sick.

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Very nice.

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He's sick.

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There's a lot of people that are gonna, you know, like it's one of those years where it's just like, damn, like not even being the worst teams, not even like a few.

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Dude, that's just a freshman or something. Like you're not gonna look at me and tell me Bennett Starts ain't an NBA point guard. He's a lottery pick. My man's an Iron Man.

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He's played every he played every bit of like the last like every game, I'm pretty sure it was. Probably. Iron Man. He's a dog. So come out here and be like a like a Peyton Pritchard.

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He's an absolute dog. He's a lottery pick. And that's I mean, that's just one. That's just one non-freshman.

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You're gonna have some international players.

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Yeah. There will be some international players.

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And you then you're gonna have like Bryce James. He's gonna pull a Bronny. The Lakers have already been.

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He's gonna be like, I want to play a year with my brother and my dad. The Lakers have already identified their second round pick.

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They'd probably be able to get him in the undrafted free agents if LeBron tells him to.

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No, they gotta make sure they get him.

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No, I mean LeBron's gonna leave LA and then wherever he goes, he's gonna sign a deal. He's gonna be like, all right, I'm gonna sign for a little bit of money, but like you also have to get Bryce and Bronny. And we all have to start the first game of the season.

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I mean, if I was LeBron James and I wanted to play with my kids, I'd probably do some shit like that.

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Yeah, I absolutely would too. The problem is, is we don't know what you know. You're picking up Bryce James, who probably sucks. Ronnie's coming around. Ugh. That's crazy. You see, uh, I mean, shit, he was the first person in NBA history to get an assist from his dad.

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That's true.

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You know, when you're the first person in NBA history to do something, you gotta be pretty nice to do it.

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You know? You know who was nice in the NBA and then turned out he wasn't? Who? Cam Thomas.

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Yeah, uh, what happened with him?

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He plays zero defense.

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He wanted to get the bag.

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He plays zero defense. It doesn't exist. It's a like there's a real problem with the NBA.

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Yeah, it's pre-trash.

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The NBA has a real issue. And it's a shame because we sit here and we watch the tournament every year and we're like, this is electric. There's no reason the NBA shouldn't be the same way.

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Yeah, it's well, you know, when you're getting paid a ton of money, and it's like, you know, when you're the good teams are good and the bad teams are bad, so it's like all you gotta do is get there.

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Yeah, is it like a talent discrepancy?

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I don't even think that. It's just I mean, in a way, yeah, obviously, but it's just like for me, I think it's part of it's the product, like what the game has become.

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Yeah, it's it's you can't even call it a three and D game. Man, it's a three and three game.

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Yeah, that's it. And I'm just like, I hate it. Like, analytics have just ruined the game. Where it's literally like it's either gonna be a layup or a dunk or a three.

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Yeah, and that's dude, and I used to be a huge NBA guy.

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And then you got teams, it and it's and it never fails. We'll be watching games, there'll be four or five minutes left, game will be tied, team comes down, hit a three. What does the team come do soon as soon as the run up the court next possession, fire off a three?

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Yeah, I know. It's miss.

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The team gets a rebound, come down, next thing you know, it's another three.

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Here's the perfect example. I was watching the Pistons and the Hawks the other night. And the Hawks went up, it was to they're up like 22 at half. And in the first three minutes of the second half, the Pistons walked.

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Osborne. Yeah. The first three minutes they were winning by like the seven-minute mark. Yeah. And then the Hawks come back and ended up winning the game. In overtime, yeah. I was watching that game too. It was nuts.

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It was ridiculous. They should have never even gotten that close.

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Yeah. It used to be there. Like I remember a time in the NBA when a 17-point game was over. Like now you'll see a team be up 15 points in a quarter and be down 15 minutes, 15, 3 minutes into the next quarter.

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Man. Yeah, it's not a great product. It's nuts. Yeah. It's not a great product. Come on, NBA. Like you're clearly not an expert either.

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Yeah, and it goes, but it go, I mean, it's it goes down everywhere. You know, part of it is just AAU basketball.

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Yeah, well, look, the real problem is like you don't see it in the, you know, like you don't see it in the NFL. Like you don't see it in the NHL. Like the disparities are not that large.

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Yeah.

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From the worst teams to the best teams. Like the worst team in the NFL from the first time.

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From from like even like even if you know when you're talking about not even competitive from a sense of like a team going like three and fourteen. Like they're not out here getting 20 pieced every game. Right.

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Yeah, no, there's absolutely like those teams carry the opportunity to win the game every week.

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Yeah. Yep.

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You don't feel that way. You don't feel that way when the Washington Wizards are going up against the Celtics.

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Right.

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Like you don't. Like if the if the Wizards were to win that game, they would call it an upset.

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And that's why I think that's why I like the NFL so much.

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Yeah, the parody. It's great. Yeah, and we're, you know, like there are three and fourteen teams every year. Like there's one of those teams every year, two of those teams every year. But those teams, unless it's the Jets.

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But just think about it. You really don't ever feel like that. Think about how much, like how often, like, the the playoff teams change on a year-to-year basis.

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Yeah. Every single year in the NFL there's a worst to first.

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How long it takes to go from worst to first in the NBA.

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It doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. The closest thing you have to it was what the Pistons did last year.

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Yeah. But you know, they were building something, you know. Right. There's gonna be a long time. Like they were into that a long time. Like the Patriots went from a four-win team to the Super Bowl. Right.

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Yeah, that would never happen in the NBA. Never. I wouldn't say never, but it would never happen. I would be confident in saying never.

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I'm sure it's happened.

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But like that same thing could absolutely happen in Major League Baseball.

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah, it could absolutely happen in the NHL. Yeah. Like, you know, it's weird that it's the only sport that you don't think it could happen.

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Uh but yeah, but you know, we are an NFL podcast, so we'll get into some things.

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Allegedly.

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That is true. We try to be an NFL podcast.

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Look, they made it hard.

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You know, it's been a slow week, man. So we're gonna look into some things. You know, last week we talked about, you know, we had our like pre-draft predictions. Have you thought about anything? Have any changes from anything?

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No. If I was the Titans, I still like drafting Jeremiah Love.

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Yeah, I saw a mock draft that doesn't have the Titans drafting Jeremiah Love.

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I've actually read a report that says that the Titans have kind of cooled off on drafting Jeremiah Love.

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I wonder, you know, you just hear so much noise around the draft. Like, you know, it's hard to sit here and say, you know, what's real and what's not real.

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You think it's definitely done on purpose? It could be all smoke screens and whatnot, but it's definitely done on purpose, just for the simple fact that if we knew that the Titans were gonna draft Jeremiah, the odds of us watching it as intensely on draft night isn't gonna be the same. Yeah, right.

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I yeah. But I mean, it's just like what's the same thing. Even though you know, like you know who the number one pick is. Right. But outside of that, like you don't know who's going where and in what direction.

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I can tell you this. I just don't need the the Titans could draft Jeremiah, that'd be awesome. But if the Giants were to draft him, I would be just disgusted.

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Just devastating. Dude, they said uh Scatabo's gonna be back for uh like mini camp.

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Yeah, of course. He had dog. He also said that he didn't believe in CTE and then had to apologize.

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Oh, you know, before we start getting into too deep, I just thought about something. I don't know, you know, if we want to consider this a crash out. Alright. It is kind of crazy.

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It involves Clifford allegedly Puka Nakua. Yeah, you could probably put this in the crash out category. For sure.

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Uh so Puka Nakua allegedly bites a woman and makes a comment. I'm not gonna say it. But you know, we know what the comment is at this point. How do you feel about that?

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I mean, it's not a great look.

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This is this is like how many of these recently? He had to dance.

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Yeah, well, he was kind of coerced into that.

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He lied about he lied about taking uh what her name? What was it, Sydney Swingy on a date?

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Yeah, that's fine. That doesn't bother me.

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I mean, you know, biting a woman.

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That's that's crazy.

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And and then saying that allegedly.

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Who knows?

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Do you see that?

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There's a good chance, there's a good chance it was sensual. Consensual.

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The bite?

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Yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying. I shouldn't say that. I do know that his cam came out and said that they were gonna they were gonna sue for defamation afterwards.

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Yeah. And it's just one of those things, man, it's just like when I saw the picture, I was like, how'd the back of his teeth get like imprinted in her skin?

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They got some fucked up teeth, man. It's all those hits shifting his teeth.

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So so let's just say, you know, for the sake of this conversation that all of this is true. Right. What happens with Puka Nakuba?

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So I'm pretty sure if the anti-Semitic comments are true and he bit somebody, I'm pretty sure it would turn into like a hate crime. Which would then carry like actual legal trouble.

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Right.

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Because this is just a civil case. So it's just strictly for money at this point.

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Ah, okay, gotcha. Yeah.

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So there's no criminal charges. But I mean, if it were to be true, I would think maybe criminal charges could be filed. I don't know.

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But like wait, I feel like if you go the civil route first, you're not really looking for the criminal side of it.

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Yeah, right.

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You just want to get the bag and then you're cold with it.

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You're here to try and join the BCA.

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Right. You know, I mean, you certainly like does this affect his contract, how much he gets paid? Like, does this, you know, give you any red flags for Puka Nakua moving forward?

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I don't know. I mean, probably not. Not for the Rams, at least.

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Man, I just think the thing with it now is if, like, like, of course, like I said, if all this is true, but think about how many crazy wide receivers.

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Think about how many crazy wide receivers. Antonio Brown got multiple bags.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

Yeah, but did he say anything about Jewish people?

SPEAKER_03 21:56

No, but he definitely has like an attempt to murder charge right now.

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Yeah, well he's also not in the NFL anymore.

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This is true. But this all occurred from the NFL. The craziest thing Puka and Kev's Gadaboo have said is that CT isn't real. That's a threat.

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It's a threat. It's a threat. Yes. How? Bro, because you know, this has been a now you have to ride with it. What then it's not real? No, like the like well, all the stuff that the NFL's done with the CTE over the years. So like now you have to protect that.

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Man.

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You got people calling it out and fake, and at the same time they're making comments, anti-Semitic remarks, and and you know, biting people and things like that.

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You know, you if it is true, does Puka's lawyer come out and say that he has CTE to beat the case?

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I mean, yeah, we look at I mean we look at the concussions. You know, we say he's a could, you know, this could be a direct, this isn't the Puka Nakua that we knew when he was, you know, a good boy.

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You know? Is this how Puka beats the case?

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Undiagnosed concussions in the NFL.

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How funny would it be if that was how he beat the case?

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I mean, you know. And then now you turn around, they kick him out of the NFL, but he sues them for like $200 million.

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And then he goes and joins his brother in the UFL.

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Oh, he'd be Oh, bro. Look, I'd wa I'd watch the UFL just to watch what Puka Nikol would do to them people every week.

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It would depend if he could have somebody throw him the ball.

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No, I mean, I'd still want to see just how bad he's cooking these people. Oh, it would be like I feel like every on-target ball would be caught.

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Absolutely.

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How many games a season do they play?

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I think what, like eight games, I think.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Yeah, he's putting he's putting up 1,500 yards.

SPEAKER_03 24:02

They just had I think they just had three new teams joined, so it'll probably increase about.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

How do you feel about the UFL?

SPEAKER_03 24:09

I watched part of the Dallas Houston game today.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

Dallas's QB was going absolutely fucking bananas.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Yeah. I didn't watch any of it.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

He had like 355 and 3. He played at Western Kentucky. Shout out to the Hilltoppers. Hell yeah. They had a dude. I don't know if you remember Greg Ward played for Philly, wide receiver.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

Yeah, he was crazy. Yeah, I remember he was going crazy, so I could only imagine what Puka would do.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Go insane. What do you think about the idea?

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Of what the UFL?

SPEAKER_01 24:49

Of no, what if the NFL invested in the UFL and traded it almost like a like a G League?

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Like a developmental.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Or like a minor league system for the MLB.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

Yeah, it would probably be a good idea. I to be honest with you, I think if they keep going at the rate that they're going, I think the UFL is going to end up being a decent product regardless.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

You think so? I just think.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Look, the football that I watched today, it wasn't the greatest thing I've ever watched, but that Dallas team like was playing like legitimate offense.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Yeah, but think about the difference in think about well. You want to know because now when I say it this way, now I think actually like the the G League, like a development league transitional thing wouldn't actually be terrible because think about the difference in the level of like play from like the starter to a backup.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Yeah, it's a it's a large gap.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

Could you imagine? You know, like these people that it's gonna take someone coming from the UFL and being like a superstar.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

Yeah, well, I mean, there was that kid that the Vikings just signed the defensive line. He was sick as fuck last year.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Um I mean, like where it's gonna take someone coming and being like a like a Hall of Fame caliber player. Yeah, I mean that's like somebody that comes out of college, goes undrafted, goes to the UFL, eats.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

I mean, it kind of happened, it just wasn't the UFL. It's kind of happened twice, but it just wasn't the UFL. Didn't Doug Flutie, was it Doug Flutie?

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Well, yeah, uh was it a War Moon 2?

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Kurt Warner? Didn't he play with the CFL?

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Yeah, I'm talking about the UFL. I'm talking about today.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

I'm just saying, like, it's happened before, so I don't see why it couldn't happen now. Yeah. I will say this though. This is what this is like the craziest thing. Is like the passing and the the wide like wide receiver, like that seems to not be as large of a gap as like running backs. Yeah. It just like the running backs in the UFL are fucking trash.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Probably the line plays probably awful.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

Yeah, though lines, it's not great.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Probably terrible.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

It's not great, but it should still be easier to run the ball. But the running backs in the UFL just suck.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

Yeah, I just I just I don't know. I I just feel I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

They're terrible.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

I guess the cool thing about it is is you know, it's one thing. It's just because it's spring, you gives me a chance to watch it just because I love football.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

But like I'm saying, like, if you put Saquon Barkley in the UFL behind a bad old line, it's not gonna matter.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

He's gonna be the six. Yeah, but if we're talking about an NFL superstar versus a bunch of records.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

Yeah, but I'm saying like there have been wide receivers from the UFL that have made it in the there's been quarterbacks that have come. PJ Walker is one of them.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

He's turned into a backup quarterback in the NFL.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

I want to see one of them come from the UFL and be a Tom and then turn into Tom Brady. That's crazy. I mean, maybe not Tom Brady, but that caliber of quarterback. Yeah, Kirk, Kirk Warren. Sam Darnold. Sam Donald. The new Sam Darnold.

SPEAKER_04 28:09

That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

The problem is you can't go from the UFL, get a chance as a starter, and come out and see ghosts. You know, you know, you won't get a second or third chance. Yeah, he got that first round.

SPEAKER_04 28:20

He got first round privilege on that.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Yeah, that's the only thing that gives you a chance. That's why teams believe in you know all these other quarterbacks now because of one. Yeah, it's Will Eddis. Sam Darnold, Sam Donald's gonna, bro, like here's the thing. I feel like nowadays we're we're gonna see it happening so much. Yeah. I mean, especially when we're talking about teams that don't have like higher draft picks, or when there's not as many good quarterbacks, or like if you don't feel comfortable with taking a risk on one of these quarterbacks, because it's worth the risk, though.

SPEAKER_03 28:55

It's worth the risk. Because what's the worst that happens? Yeah. You score the guy.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

But I think the thing with it is now everybody you like you when you look at it and it's just like, oh man, this guy goes from so-and-so to so-and-so, and then you automatically compare him to Sam Darnold. Yeah, like wait till that's what's happening with everything.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

Wait till Will Levis gets traded to the Green Bay Packers as a backup?

SPEAKER_01 29:21

I don't know. You know, the Titans are gonna absolutely have to do something with Will Levis.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

If you are, you know, well, I guess it's over for some teams. I mean, if if is there a team that you out there that you would see could like taking a flyer for Will Levis?

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Yeah, the Jets.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

Yeah, I mean, you know, you don't get a quarterback option. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 29:45

No, I read that the Jets, I read the Jets were interested in Ty Simpson.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

I mean, that that could be an option for them at what they have 16-2. Yeah. Definitely not taking him at pick two, right? No.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

You can't.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

They're gonna be an interesting team. Like the draft is actually gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

I think you read that the Cardinals were considering Ty. I think Ty Simpson's definitely gonna end up working his way into the first round.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

I didn't think that he was ever not gonna be a first round pick towards the end of the season. I don't like him. A lot of people do like him. Dan Orlovsky.

SPEAKER_04 30:25

I know. He's he's he's gonna be. He thinks he's better than Mendoza. He's going to battle, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Yeah, I mean, some things are just outlandish.

SPEAKER_04 30:33

He's going to battle for him.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

You know, I don't want to say some wild shit like that just for some clicks. There's just no way you can watch that and and and and come away with that.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

Well, he's better than Franklin.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yeah, and and the thing that he was and the thing that he was going off about the most, which was hilarious to me, was he was like, he was just stuck on, he's like, through through three quarters against Ohio State, they had six points. And they were like, Yeah, but they scored, and he did this, and he did that, and he was like, Yeah, but through three quarters, they were down six points. He only scored six points. And like he just kept going off about it, and I'm just like, bro, like I get what you're saying in that in that moment, but like you can't say that and then completely ignore the fact that like one, they won that game. He made some huge throws during that game, like, and even you know, they were so good that he didn't have to have those kind of moments, but that's more of a testament to one, how good that team was and how well he played consistently all through the year. But when they needed him, that Penn State throw, incredible.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

Yeah, it was a catch too.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

He showed up in the moments in the natty, showed up.

SPEAKER_03 31:45

Yeah, I think he should be. Against Ohio State. Like, I don't even think it's a question. He should probably be the number one.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

I you know, is he do I look at him in the same light that I see some other recent quarterback prospects that have been taken number one? Like, is he on their caliber? No, which granted that doesn't mean shit. But at least as a prospect's perspective, like I said, we have already I've already said I would take Cam over him. Yes, I would take Caleb Williams over him. I would have taken him over Bryce Young.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

Caleb Williams, that's future MVP. Caleb Williams.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

Yeah, I'm taking Caleb.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Trevor Lawrence as a prospect, way better.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Man, Trevor Lawrence.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

You know, we can go on back, but you know, that doesn't mean anything as a prospect.

SPEAKER_03 32:29

Trevor Lawrence, regress or impress.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

I've I like Trevor Lawrence. I'm well, I won't say that I like Trevor Lawrence. I'm swayed. He he showed me a lot last year. He likes him. He likes him.

SPEAKER_03 32:46

He's got the Justin Butler stamping from the show.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

I think he's the best quarterback in the division coming into the season. Yeah. And I don't it can't particularly be close. I mean, that's Trevor Lawrence had like a really good year last year.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

I don't feel like that that's that hard to do.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

It's not, but I mean, if we just looked at last year alone coming into this season, like Trevor Lawrence is a top ten quarterback for me.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

Okay. I don't necessarily disagree. I can't make up my mind whether I like Trevor Lawrence or not.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

Yeah, it's just hard, man. You see moments.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

You definitely see moments, and you're like, I see why he was drafted number one.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

I think the thing for me that I look at Trevor Lawrence now is when you look back, okay, yeah, he had that horrible rookie season. That first half of that second season was rough. But he lit it up the whole second half of that his second season. Was that the year? That was his second season, right? Yeah, when they came back and walked the Titans down for the division and then walked down the Chargers. Yeah, beat the Chargers. Yeah, and then the first half of that next season after that, they were like eight and three, and he was nice, they got hurt, he got hurt, and he was bad after that. And then was it like and then last year? So for me, it's hard to feel like I have more evidence to say that Trevor Lawrence is good than to say that oh last season was fluky or he's trash or he's mid or however you feel about him.

SPEAKER_03 34:19

I know that when Trevor Lawrence joined the BCA, you weren't a big fan of it.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

I wasn't a big fan of it, but that was come before he's done.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

It doesn't look as bad now, does it?

SPEAKER_01 34:29

And and not only that, I like it. I like him too because he has weapons around him still offensively.

SPEAKER_03 34:35

He does.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Like it think about how good this wide receiver core is going to be if Brian Thomas Jr. bounces back.

SPEAKER_03 34:44

If you were a Jags fan, like how mad would you be that you only get six home games a year? Uh yeah, I'd kind of be hot. Like, that's gotta be like that's the most fucked up shit.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Eventually they're gonna force the Jags to move over there.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

Dude, if I was a Jags fan, that shit would piss me off. Yeah. That's gotta drive up prices.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

Got to. Not only that, I mean, here's the thing. When you do that, you know, you're losing two. There's no way that they're both home games for them, considered.

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Yeah, like they get the revenue from them.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

Well, well, yeah, that I would say that probably, but I'm saying like both of their games, they they're not the home team, are they?

SPEAKER_03 35:25

In London?

SPEAKER_01 35:26

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

Yeah, I think they are considered the home team.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

If they do now, that is dirty. I figured it would at least be one and one. But it they would almost they would have to be.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

Everyone else gets eight home games.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

Yeah, or at least let them have their logo on the field.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

And don't they I think they do it back-to-back weeks?

SPEAKER_01 35:46

I think that, yeah. That's dirty.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

It's so dirty. Do you know the NFL like so we kick off on a Wednesday this year? That's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

And it's the it's at least it's the Seahawk game.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Look, and we say like we say that it's lame now, but I mean look, when when it's when it's here, we're gonna be like, oh my god, man, we got football on Wednesday. He's so hyped.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Yeah, I mean, that's gonna be cool.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

But then come Thursday, you get the Melbourne game.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

I think it's gonna come on at 5:30 Pacific time.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Yeah, so it's 8.30 our time.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

That's a late start.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Or 7.30 our time.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Well, that's a normal prime time game. I'm cool with that. Yeah, that's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 36:29

But for me, yeah, I think that's in the morning in Australia.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Yeah, I I just hate that they're you know like it's a game played in the future. Yeah, it's gonna be Thursday there, but Wednesday here is funny as fuck.

SPEAKER_03 36:43

Uh no, it'll be Friday there with Thursday here.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Well, yeah, my bad.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

But yeah, it's a game played in the future. It's just weird. I'm not we've talked about this before, but I'm I don't think either one of us are the biggest fans of the all these years, like all the time.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

I'm not a huge fan of the amount that they're doing. You know, it was cool when it was just one or two.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

But now it's like, you know, six, seven straight weeks.

SPEAKER_03 37:10

They're like, we've grown the game.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

We haven't I don't has it grown anymore here? I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

They're like they're like, we've grown the game, we need to add an 18th.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Man.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

So we can put more games overseas. Yeah, they're gonna move the Jags.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

They're gonna make a deal, they're gonna just start a league over there, and they're gonna make a deal, they're gonna make it like soccer, where you the worst team in the league, you get the relegated instead.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

It is kind of crazy that football's never caught on anywhere else.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Yeah. Especially with how many people are around the world.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

Like nobody wants to throw on pads and hit each other.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Yeah, you know, you'd think that'd be a a sport that Russians would love. You feel like they'd be pretty good at it. Yeah, right. You feel like I mean they're out there wrestling with bears and shit.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

Yeah, like training as kids. You would be like, hey, this could probably be a sport your guys pretty good at. Right. And if you maybe like you wouldn't have a great overall team, but you would definitely create like great middle linebackers.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

They won't do it because they can't drink vodka.

SPEAKER_03 38:22

Oh, they can.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

You absolutely spike the Gatorade cooler.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

You never saw that clip with Marshawn when he's talking to Tom or Payton Manny. He's like, Yeah, I took a shot before every game.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

No, we need to do it. We need to have a kicker. What was the movie? Was it the uh was it the replacements where they had the kicker smoking a seed?

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Yeah, man. That's a cool thing.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

They need to have some shit like that.

SPEAKER_04 38:45

Shame Falco.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

They need to bring that, incorporate that. Take away the the no-fun league.

SPEAKER_03 38:53

Dude, John Wick's amazing. That dude was a professional football player. The Boba Yeaga.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

The Boba Yeah was out there throwing darts, brother.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

Well, what was the other one that had my the the parody that had my boy ACL tear?

SPEAKER_02 39:12

It's a seal Terry! ACL tear, get out of there.

SPEAKER_04 39:17

Oh, bro, where he gets hit by the bus. Oh god, what was that movie called?

SPEAKER_03 39:24

Hey, that shit was funny, dog. Yeah, he steps on the gets hit by the bus, but he's alright, then he steps on a sunflower seed. Tears ACL.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

What was that movie, man? I gotta figure it out.

SPEAKER_04 39:36

Oh my god, dude. That shit was funny.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

I'm gonna I'm gonna think about it again. And I'm gonna think about it and figure it out. No, I gotta look it up now. And then we'll get into the next topic.

SPEAKER_03 39:46

Just just do you do you do you have do you have a Super Bowl pick yet? Are we gonna do that? Are we gonna do like our Super Bowl picks before the season? That's what we should probably do.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

Yeah, I mean we can do it pre-draft.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

We already picked the oh, we just picked the conference championship.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

Yeah, we just went conference championship division.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

The Bears and the Bills.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

Those oh man. It's gonna be a good Super Bowl, dog. It's definitely the Jets.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

Outside of that.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

It's definitely the Jets and the Rams. The Jets win.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

Oh, I figured out the movie name. The comebacks.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

The comebacks. I thought it was that.

SPEAKER_04 40:30

I didn't want to say it. Yeah, the comebacks.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

But I mean, we can get, you know, this is all pre-draft. I'm sure, you know, we'll evaluate this again after the draft, which I mean that we'll and then, you know, probably after throughout training camp as if injuries and stuff like that come up, or you know, as cuts are made and teams make pickups and stuff. But I'm cool with giving my Super Bowl pick right now.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Send it. I don't want to know who's gonna play. I just want to know who you think's gonna win.

SPEAKER_01 41:00

I've already told you. We already know who's gonna play. We made those, we literally made pre-draft picks last week.

SPEAKER_03 41:07

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 41:08

He said, I don't want to know who's gonna play. I just want to know who's gonna win.

SPEAKER_03 41:12

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean I believe that.

SPEAKER_02 41:14

I'm going with the Buffalo. No, I'm not. The Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams.

SPEAKER_04 41:21

The Bears.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

I don't know why, bruh.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

I just I'm a big fan. It's I'm not even saying, not necessarily that I'm a big fan. I just believe that he's about to go crazy.

SPEAKER_03 41:36

On top. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:39

It'll be You think last this next year is gonna be Mass Stafford's last ride? It'll be him and Puka's.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

So if they're gonna win the Super Bowl and Puka's gonna say something crazy. He's like, I quit. I'm retiring anyways.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

He's like, I'm gonna go become a NASCAR pit crew member.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

No, he's gonna cancel himself. He's gonna say it.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

He said, Y'all wondered what I would do if I ever got this moment. Well, it's the end of the ride for me anyways, so he's gonna go be a WWE superstar. No, he's gonna be an anti-Semitic. He's gonna he's gonna say something derogatory.

SPEAKER_04 42:17

Man.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

One thing I wanted to get into before we wrap this up. I saw Yahoo Sports. There was an article that came out where someone had ranked the offseason. Alright. We don't have to necessarily go all through the list. I'm just I'm gonna go through the top five, and I want you to tell me how you feel. Alright. Number one, they do.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

No, no, no, no, no. Start from five to one. Good.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

Five to one. Alright. Number five is the Carolina Panthers.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

Okay. I see that.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

Number four.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

I'm actually surprised that they're not higher, but I guess I need to hear the other four.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

Yeah. Number four, we've got the Denver Broncos.

SPEAKER_03 43:03

Okay. That is surprising.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Number three, they've got the Tennessee Titans.

SPEAKER_03 43:08

Okay. I love the Titans.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

Number two, this was a little surprising for me. The Los Angeles Rams at two. Okay. I I get it. And then number one. And this, they did say that this is because of my boy coming back. It's the Raiders.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

I knew it. I knew it was gonna be the Raiders. Their defense should be good.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

On paper, it should be a lot better. Their defense should be good. They did address a lot. Is there anything surprising about the top five? Anything that you don't like? Anybody too high? Anybody you think is missing?

SPEAKER_03 43:46

Yeah, the I think the the Broncos thing's a little bit surprising. I know that they were out there trying to get a running back and they ended up settling on J.K. Dobbins. You can't love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Yeah, the health. Don't love someone who's literally never healthy.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

And it it's it's not like RJ Harvey came out in his time and was like, oh my God, the kid's impressive.

SPEAKER_01 44:11

Yeah, they also didn't make like a ton of like outside free agent moves.

SPEAKER_03 44:16

They lost some. Yeah, lost Trey Greenlaw, lost John Franklyers. I think it's a bit surprising that they're.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

I mean, they're putting a lot into the Jalen Waddle move, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

It makes sense. I you look, you legitimately, I don't feel like you ever know with Sean Payton.

SPEAKER_05 44:34

Right.

SPEAKER_03 44:34

I wouldn't be surprised if they went and drafted a running back fairly high. Like I wouldn't be surprised if they took a second, third round running back.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

But is there many of those out there?

SPEAKER_03 44:48

Probably get like Jonah Coleman from Washington.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

There's not a lot of elite running backs out there.

SPEAKER_03 44:55

I mean, look, I'm not saying I'm not saying elite. I'm just saying like using high draft capital on a running back.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

On a running back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:03

I don't know, man. I mean, there was so many rumblings about they were trying to get Brees and then that didn't work. So then they went after Kenneth Walker and then that didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

I wonder why. Was it a money thing? I feel like Denver would have been would be way would be an attractive place to go as a fan.

SPEAKER_03 45:20

Absolutely. Well, look, you have no idea how bad I wanted Brees Hall to go to Denver.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

You really want him to go to the Chiefs. You were an advocate of that last year at the trade deadline. Yeah. Look, and they tried. The Jets are just wanted too much. And then they and then they just kept them in jail.

SPEAKER_03 45:39

Yeah. Well, don't worry. They said they want to get a contract done before the NFL draft, and then I'll just be sad for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

Would you like to see? Would you like to see uh like hear some other notable? Yeah, give me the top ten. All right. Number six, the New York Giants. Okay. Seven, the uh 49ers. Number eight is the Washington Commanders. Number nine's the Dallas Cowboys, and number ten is the Bengals.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

Yeah. I mean, I think all ten of those seem to line up in my book. The Commanders, Bengals, and the Cowboys all tried to address defense.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

I feel like that's kind of high.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

For who?

SPEAKER_00 46:26

For the for the Commanders.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

I don't know, man. They made a lot of defensive signings. Not that I know they signed like a cornerback that was like the worst statistical cornerback in the league. But still, you know. They got a warm body out there.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

I mean, the I I I kind of like what the Bengals did to replace Trey Hendrickson. You know, they went out and got Jonathan Allen, Brian Cook, Boy Mafey.

SPEAKER_03 46:51

Yeah. I mean, I They'll probably draft defense in the draft.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Yeah, once again.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

Once again. Or an offensive line.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

I mean, you know, putting that putting them in the top 10 and like not taking into account, like, are we taking into account the subtraction of Trey Hendrickson?

SPEAKER_03 47:09

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Like, it's almost like they're going into it with the city.

SPEAKER_03 47:12

Who are the next five?

SPEAKER_01 47:14

So number 11's the Steelers.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:17

The Patriots are at 12. The Browns are at 13. Number 14 is the Lions. And the Bills are 15th.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

That's actually a little bit surprising.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

Think the Bills are too low?

SPEAKER_03 47:32

I mean, I would think that going and getting DJ Moore and move the needle a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

I wonder how they're like compiling this list.

SPEAKER_03 47:42

They did lose like a lot defensively, though.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

Yeah, but I mean, I feel like when we're looking at the when I look at the Bills team, you know, like they're gonna go as far as Josh Allen's gonna take them, right? So like the DJ Moore edition, like I feel like should weigh heavier than it would be had, you know, of the Browns had picked up DJs.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

They definitely right. Oh man, that'd be terrible.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Like if it's weighted that way, then okay, then I understand it. I mean, the Bills haven't really necessarily had a great offseason. I mean, outside of the DJ Moore edition, like what else do we really like love? You know, they fired McDermott and replaced him with Joe Brady. You hate Brandon Bean, the owner's an idiot.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

These are all fair points. Who who are the bottom five? Who are the worst five teams?

SPEAKER_01 48:28

Let me pull it back up. Number 32 is the Minnesota Vikings.

SPEAKER_03 48:34

Even with going again, collar. It's kind of surprising.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

They've got the Falcons at 31. That means the first thing that they mention about this is big, the losing first round pick, essentially, James Pierce. Man. They don't love the two with pick.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

Agreed. Both of those.

SPEAKER_01 48:53

The Falcons didn't sign anyone for more than $10 million total.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Yeah, I got a bunch of one-year deals that probably won't mean anything.

SPEAKER_01 49:01

The Jags, 30th.

SPEAKER_03 49:03

Yeah, they lost a lot.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

Packers at 29.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

This is kind of surprising consider the considering the amount of moves that they made. The New York Jets at 28.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

Yeah. I think they just it's the Jets, man. They set a precedent. Like it's uh they don't love Geno Smith, huh? That's how could you?

SPEAKER_01 49:28

I mean, when they don't have many, I like Geno Smith more than I do, you know, Justin Fields. Yeah, or Mike White.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

The Bucks are at 27. I meant I get it. Well, they do sign Kenneth Gainwell.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

Yeah. My brother's pissed about that, by the way. Why? Because he's like, man, they just keep bringing in running backs for to compete to take away from Bucky Irvin.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

I mean, that's true. Fancy. Bucky Irvin, Bucky Irvin had a lot of problems.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

Here's another surprising one. The Los Angeles Chargers at 26.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

Yeah, I think that is probably a little bit surprising.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

The Eagles are at 25. Cardinals 24.

SPEAKER_03 50:15

I feel like the Cardinals should be lower. Like they should be lower.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Is that a bad offseason?

SPEAKER_03 50:21

Yeah. They're another one of these teams that I'm bro. Jacoby Brissett's going to be their starting quarterback. Yeah. You like Jacoby Brissett. Yeah, I like Jacoby Briskett. Because he's going to go out there and feed a wide receiver.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Would it make you feel better if they get Ty Simpson?

SPEAKER_03 50:38

No, not really. One thing that I heard that was good. It's like would they restructure James Connor? They signed Tyler Algier. They have Trey Benson. They got like four or five running backs on the roster that you like can't cut. Yeah. Like you drafted Trey Benson in the second round and then went and signed Tyler Algier and restructured James Conner's contract.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

I'm glad I got out of the Trey Benson market.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

That just doesn't make much sense. Yeah. I just feel like it's a waste of money. I they signed a bunch of one-year deals with players that are going to be meaningless.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

None of them amount to nothing. They didn't really do much. I did read an article. They have Nathaniel Hackett as their OC.

unknown 51:22

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

Like, what did they do in the offseason to be at 24? When does Todd Downing come back as an OC? Probably. Todd Downing's probably back at the Jets as soon as they fire Frank Reich.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

One thing I did read good about the Cardinals for me was they said we expect Marvin Harrison to have a much better, like, like they're going to use him more. I mean in better ways. As they should. Like they said we're going to see him get a lot of like motion and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

Which is great. You look at Marv and you see when he plays well, like, yeah, this kid could be special.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:15

That's never what's bothered us. What's bothered us. His usage is weird. What's yeah, but what's bothered us is the fact that he might lack some dog. That is true. And I, you know, it's hopefully it changes. I'm a Marv fan. I believe you're a Marv fan. I am, I'm invested in Marv. So I let's hope that changes.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

And you know, and here's the thing. I think the thing that's like it's hard when you see all these other receivers like come in and make an impact early in their like earlier on earlier on in their careers. And you forget sometimes that like think about how many of these great receivers it takes for a year or two blossom into that guy.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

I feel like it used to be like a two or three year deal all the time. Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

When you drafted a wide receiver. And you know, you have seen a lot more come in more recently. That are just sick. That are yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:18

But I mean, Nico Collins was a three-year guy. He didn't break a two-year three.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

Right. It doesn't happen every year.

SPEAKER_03 53:25

No. I think it'll happen this year. I mean, it's not like Omeka Abuka was a superstar. Right. He was for like the first part of the season.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

Right, yep. So, you know, and and but you feel good about Abuka coming into this year. Yeah, especially. It is a disappointing year for Marv, but it seemed like once he started to like figure it out, he got hurt.

unknown 53:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

Like when it was finally starting to come together, we were starting to have some more consistency.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Look, Jacoby Brissett will be great for Marv.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

He's gonna well, he likes Michael Wilson.

SPEAKER_03 53:57

He he likes Trey McBride as well.

SPEAKER_01 54:00

Yeah, so you know, maybe Marv need to change the scenery.

SPEAKER_03 54:04

Trey McBride's definitely the number one target in that offense.

SPEAKER_01 54:08

As he should be. I mean, he's he's sick.

SPEAKER_03 54:11

Sick.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

So but you know maybe the best tight end in football. If Marv comes out, if Marv comes out, what what kind of season do you think Marv can come out and have?

SPEAKER_03 54:21

I mean, if we're guessing it today, I think he has I don't know. I would guess that Marv probably has a thousand to eleven hundred yards, seven touchdowns, somewhere in that range. I don't know if it's something where you'd be like, oh, it's you know, it's definitely gonna be better than what he had this year in his rookie year. And you know, I think you'll be pleased with that.

SPEAKER_01 54:48

You think he puts up a I think so you think he just he puts up a thousand?

SPEAKER_03 54:52

I think he'll definitely see some more short area targets. He saw a lot of downfield stuff. So I think that he can maybe get to the hundred catch range. It'll be it'll be for to me, it'll be anywhere from like eighty to a hundred catches, a thousand eleven hundred seven touchdowns. I'm I'm somewhere in that range.

SPEAKER_00 55:17

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

I don't know. I guess we'll kind of well, I'll have to see. That's not a bad year. Yeah, it's not, but you know, it and if that's his year, if that's his year, do we just look at Marv and say, okay, like this is his ceiling? Like at this point, like year three, if he doesn't have like a big breakout season, you would get marv as a few.

SPEAKER_03 55:38

Is your breakout breakout though? 1200, 13?

SPEAKER_01 55:42

I mean, for me, for me to say that I believe in Marv, like reaching the potential that we thought that he had coming out of college, like I need to see him 1,310 touchdowns at least. 100 catches.

SPEAKER_03 55:55

I mean, I think that if he gets 100 catches, I think that's absolutely in the in the realm of possibility. I think you you get your 1,100 to a thousand. I think you get your 1100 to 1,000 around the 80 catch mark. Like if he can get 80 receptions, I think that's where you are yardage-wise.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

Well then at that point, you know, you don't believe that Marv is one of those guys.

SPEAKER_03 56:18

Yeah, but there's I mean, hey, look, you say that, but like, depending on how many, you know, like if Michael Wilson is what I mean, he turned into Jerry Rice for Christ's sake.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

Yeah. I wonder if he got drug tested after that.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

If he if he is actually that good, then you know, that's a one-two combo. You could absolutely there would be a reason why he wouldn't get a hundred catches. Yeah. Because Trey McBride's gonna have an insane amount of targets, too. And you have to. Yeah. You gotta feed him.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

Well, that's true. Look, and I'm here's uh this is crazy. I'm surprised that this wasn't the 32nd ranked. What? The Miami Dolphins are at 23. That's a fair point. What is the thing?

SPEAKER_03 57:06

Yeah, like how are the Chargers? How are the Chargers below the Dolphins?

SPEAKER_01 57:10

And what in what world is the only move that you made was really signing Malik Willis and then getting rid of literally everybody?

SPEAKER_03 57:18

Yeah, you gain some draft capital.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

Like, I mean, I guess what I guess what you're looking into account is is one thing that they would have noted in the article is it says this is what a rebuild looks like. I don't know if I don't know if like the re how are we gauging the rebuild around Malik Willis.

SPEAKER_03 57:40

Tear it down to the nubs.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

Is it like it's a win-win, we either get a quarterback or we we're gonna get a quarterback instead. Like, is that how we're viewing this? Or yeah, gotta be like I don't know how I feel about a rebuild that's centered around Malik Willis.

SPEAKER_03 57:54

Yeah, because you know, if you're keeping Devon A-chan like you said you are, you get you're paying a running back. Right. And he's gonna break the market. You have no. And the only reason he'll break the market is because Jameer Gibbs is gonna break the market. Yep, and B. John Robinson's gonna break the market. So then you're gonna have no choice but to pay Devon A-chan that type of money.

SPEAKER_01 58:16

Yep. Like And you know, he deserves it.

SPEAKER_03 58:18

He does, he has been a very productive back, but some people have a problem with drafting Jeremiah Love at four. If if B.S get their contract, I mean that that drafting Jeremia Love at four wouldn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 58:33

Right. But I mean, I I'm on that side of the table. Kind of all in on the Titan. You're drafting Jeremiah Love. Number 22 on the list is the Texans. I don't know if you want to talk about that.

SPEAKER_03 58:44

That makes sense. They signed a bunch of they signed a shit to the offensive line, but these next two are kind of surprising.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

These kind of feel a little low. Well, I guess in Baltimore's case, at 21, it makes a little more sense with the hardbog losses. But, you know, the you you added Trey Hendrickson. You know, you lost Tyler Linden Baum.

SPEAKER_03 59:07

And Max Crosby.

SPEAKER_01 59:09

Yeah. Well, I mean, you kept your two first-round picks.

SPEAKER_03 59:12

So did you see Trey Hendrickson came out and said that he was looking forward to playing with Max Crosby?

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Well, he's not. Did he get the news yet?

SPEAKER_04 59:25

Well, before he failed the physical.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 59:28

He said that he was looking forward to playing with him.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

Hey, bro. If if like if now if that is true, and they were the and Baltimore was coming out and saying we're gonna go and get Trey Henderson and Max Crosby, I probably would have put them over the top in the Super Bowl. That would have been two elite edge players. They would have been sick. That would have been disgusting.

SPEAKER_04 59:50

They would have been so sick.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

Yeah, that would have been disgusting. Oh man, it almost makes me mad that if that I want that to be true. Number 20. I don't know how you feel about this because we liked the trade, but the Kansas City Chiefs.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:06

That's where they are. 20? 20. Is it because they lost a lot on defense?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

It says the the start of it, it says it's fine to like what the Chiefs got back in a trade for Trent McDuffery. For Trent McDuffie, but Kansas City just lost a former all-pro corner.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:22

Yeah, it seems like they're always losing all property.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:24

And then they all and then it says they also lost corner Jalen Watson and safety Brian Cook.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:30

Yeah, it's true too. They're gonna need a new secondary.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

But I mean, I guess, granted, I mean, the only big move, I guess, that they made was Kenneth Walker. I think that's a huge move. That is a huge move. I feel like the you know, especially when you look at the Kansas City with Spags, like you know that defense, they've had a have a track record of replacing these players. Like they've been not paying these corners for yeah, you know, this is no surprise at the end.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:57

Well, it's also like if you have Patrick Mahomes, you feel like you can win without a great defense, anyways.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:02

Well, right. And I mean, he's kind of shown that you can do that. Yeah, like if you need a quarterback to go and put up 30 every night, but you don't think Pat's gonna be back week one, but somehow Daniel Jones is. So But you know, like what they're gonna use in this draft, like they're gonna find some corners, right? They're gonna get schemed success for this defense. Like it's they're they've just been playing at such a high level for so long, and they've been replacing these same players that they're letting go for so long. You just expect them to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

The good thing is, is it's not like finding safeties and corners is impossible, right? Like it's a position.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

You find those, especially, and a lot of times you find those guys in the third round.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:43

Yeah, right. Like what was Trent McDuffie?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

Uh like a third round pick, right? I believe. Maybe, or maybe did he get drafted higher?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

I'm not sure. I don't know where he got drafted, but I don't even know where did Brian Cook get drafted? He's probably like a fifth-round pick.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:56

Right. So, I mean, you know, and that's and you want your defense to be like cheap, anyways. Right. Like NFL.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:06

Like you would rather spend the money on offense pieces.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

Like, I mean, right. Like a great offense can make up for a bad defense more than well, we say that, and there's the Bengals.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

They had a historically bad defense.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

Like, more often than not, a great offense can make up for a bad defense. More so than a great defense can make up for a bad offense.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

I guess they lost the Kansas City, also lost a tackle and lost their left tackle, didn't they? Or the right tackle. Yeah. Juwan Taylor.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:36

Mr. Fallstart. Yeah. A lot of penalties.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

Moving on. You got the Colts at 19. I don't understand how paying Alec Pierce $116 million and Daniel Jones $88 million is considered good, especially when you consider that you lost a lot. You lost Michael Pittman. You lost a lot. You lost Quiddy Pay, Braden Smith. Uh, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:06

They'll have a good O-line. They still got Jonathan Taylor. That's another running back that'll be up for a payday.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:12

JT's gonna get a bag.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:15

We're a franchise tag.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:16

Getting to the last ones we haven't spoken about. The Seahawks are at 18. Yep, they lost seven. Seems like they lost quite a bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:23

Yeah, it does. And then they paid JSN.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:26

They lost a coach.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:28

Yeah. OC. You lost your OC's bigger. Losing your OC's big, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:33

You lost Kobe Bryant. You lost Boy Mafe. You lost, you lost some pieces.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:38

You definitely, but you paid the big ones, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:41

So I get it. Retaining JSN, I guess, is I mean Yeah, you don't got a choice but to do that. We'll see how that works out.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:51

If Sam Darnold's the guy, it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:54

It is it is okay while he's cheap. It will be crippling when you have to pay Sam Darnold.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:01

It's crazy that you have to say, like, if Sam Darnold's the guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:05

I shouldn't have to say Yeah, we uh you know it's just one of those things where I should be, I should I would probably I would get drilled over Sam Darnell.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:14

But I think part of it is is there's a difference between f how we look at Sam Darnold at the money that he's paid, so the team that you can put around him versus what is what do you expect of Sam Darnold when you have to pay him the Josh Allen, the 55, this the 55, 60 million dollar contract that you're gonna have to pay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

Like what do you think, Josh, like or what do you think Sam Darnold's stat lines next year?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:40

I mean, it's probably I feel like it'd probably be similar to this year I expect it to be. I don't know if it gets much better. I don't think Seattle's is gonna be back to back. Like I don't look at them and say, okay, this is the best team in the NFL next year coming into next season. I don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:54

Yeah, I agree. You think Sam Darnold, so there's no is there a world where Sam Darnold goes like 45 and 40? It's not to me. He's in MVP conversations.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:06

I mean, I guess he's done it before. I don't know. Once again, it goes back. I feel like if he I'm I wouldn't be surprised if he has a good year.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:13

Is he just a 4,025 guy?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

I mean that's I mean, that's all you need when you can invest everywhere else on your team and build that around that. That's true. The difference is gonna be is like I can't say, you know, Sam Darnold is these guys until they're getting until we see what he does when he has to be that guy. When he has to make up for the fact that you can't pay some other players because you're getting paid fifty five million dollars a year, sixty million dollars a year. Shout out Sam Darnold. And number 17, we've got the Bears.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

Don't know why. Like they should be ranked higher for me because they literally have the MVP on their team. Like going for like that. That's part of it. Like they have it the offseason MVP pick.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:04

From you.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:05

Right. I'm first.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:08

Yeah, I mean they should be at least top ten.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:11

But right. No, I mean you they should probably be up there at number one. Like anytime you have a C an off season where you are coming in from not having the MVP to the MVP, you should be ranked higher. Seriously though. Seriously though. I mean, I you know, that's fine. Uh they you know, they they lost some stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:34

Was 16 the last one?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:36

The 16 is the New Orleans Saints.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:39

Huh. Yeah. I think all that stuff could change come draft night. Yeah. The Saints draft a wide receiver, they'll go up. Yeah. I think they need a a good wide receiver. Their offense will be pretty straight. Like it'll be if you believe in Tyler Shuck.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

Since let's do a little prediction to end the show. Alright. Who's gonna be the first team in the draft to make a dumbass pick?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:09

Oof.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:10

Well like who's gonna be that team that makes a pick that just doesn't make sense?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:15

There's there's a good chance it could happen early in the draft, considering the Browns and the Jets are early in the draft.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:23

And you know there are two rules that can't be broken.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:27

Man. Tell them.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:29

The Jets are gonna jet, and the Browns are gonna Browns.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

I mean, hey, look, the Titans have made some pretty bad choices in in the in the past. This is a new regime. So, I mean, I'm not gonna can't count them out. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt. I mean, the Jags traded like their future away for Travis Hunter at two. I mean, dude, you never know. You do never know. You just hope it's not your team, right? Right. You just hope it's not your team. The the Raiders, dude, they I mean, we're over here talking about they're the number one team in the offseason. They could blow it all.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:07

By what, not drafting for now?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

The they could come out and they're like, I mean, we're talking about the same team that drafted the wrong dude one time.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:18

Like hey, bro, what if they called the Jets and said, Hey, we'll trade you Max Crosby for the number two pick in the draft?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:29

And then they drafted, and then they drafted somebody at one and and then drafted Mendoza at two, so they paid him a little less. That would be overpay somewhere else to pay a little less at quarterback. That would be funny. I don't think that would be the worst move they can make, though. I mean, I wouldn't trade the number two pick in the draft for fucking Max Crosby. That'd be horrible.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:52

Hey, the fucking the Ravens were gonna give up two first for him.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

Neither one of them were number two.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

And then took those two first.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:01

And then they realized they were smoking crack in the office. And and then blackballed them.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:08

No, dude, they made a they made a great they made a great calculated move. Shout out to the Ravens.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:14

Oh, so so your team, so your team to to fuck off the fur their first round pick is who?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:22

It's kind of a dart throw. I've been hard on the Jets. I'm I'm gonna go Jets. He's going the Jets. There's a world where they just take Ty Simpson at two and leave everybody shocked.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:35

That's not happening. There's just no way that happens.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

You're right. There's a chance they draft Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:43

I'm not. I don't know a per a particular team that's gonna do it. So I'm gonna say, here's a high take alert.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:55

The team that's gonna fuck off their first round pick is gonna be the team that drafts Sonny Styles in the top ten.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:02

Oof. I haven't seen any box with him going in the top ten. It's gonna be the Jets.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:10

If they draft him at two, I mean, well, um there's a world where he comes out and he's, you know, him. But my immediate reaction is whoever takes an off-ball linebacker in the top ten, you're a loser.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:27

Reset the market for him, man. They need to.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:30

Somebody's gotta do it. It might as well be the Jets, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:32

Man, they deserve to be a part of the BCA as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:35

I won't be mad if the Jets go defense because I am a Garrett Wilson owner, and I don't need any more competition for him. It's already gonna be slim pickings. It's already gonna be tough scene. Don't need to make it any more tough.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:49

It's not gonna, it's not great. Nothing looks great.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:53

Nothing looks great. Who's gonna be the steal of the draft?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

It's a good question. Whoever. It's I don't know. It depends on where he goes, but I like that left tackle that played Miami. I don't know what his name is.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:11

I don't know if that I don't know if their top ten projected players are steal.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:15

That's fair. That's a fair point. I guess it would be.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:21

You know what? You can save that. We can watch some more femme. Yeah. Get back in the more in some labs.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:27

It's not like it's not, it's gonna be some fucking, it's gonna be that guard from Arizona State. Have you seen him? The dude that was wrestling like Mike Vrabel.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:38

I saw a video, I don't even remember who it was. It was a little wide receiver for the Senior Bowl that was just absolutely cooking people. I'm gonna have to find that out and we'll come back to that. Uh but I don't have anything more, man. We're looking forward to a good week.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:53

Weekend of what are we like 20 days away from the draft?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:57

Nah, we're we're like 26, I believe. 25, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:01

It's something like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:02

Starting to get closer. You know, we're gonna we're gonna start having some news and rumors and stuff start popping off. Shit's about to start happening again, man. It's got to. Something's gotta give us a reason to keep going.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:14

Yeah. Shout out to the NCAA tournament. Shout out to the fans of We're Not Experts.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:24

Man. Episode 14.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:27

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SPEAKER_01 1:12:32

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We want to quit our jobs. That's that's the goal, bro. And we can't do that without you. That's the goal. But you know, that's gonna do it. And we'll see you guys on the next one.