The Foreshadowing

Commanders teasing old looks, Rams copy-pasting jerseys, Ravens can't miss, Zay flowers calling out practices, Will Anderson gets PAID, Dexter Lawrence gets traded,   and Nashville lands the Super bowl 2030.

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We're live from the cave. Episode 17.

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Seventeen. Gene show me a soda.

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Bro, we're getting up there, dog. Quick.

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Seventeen. That feels like we've put in some work.

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I mean, we've put in kind of quite a bit of work.

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I mean sweat equity.

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I I don't think sweating yet.

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Well, look, there might not be any real equity. But we can always tell people we got sweat equity.

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That's right.

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Into this.

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I'd rather have a lot of sweat than a percentage.

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Oh.

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I mean, yeah, you get a percentage of zero.

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We're doing it for the love of the game. That's right. We do it for the love of the game, not for the money.

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At least for now.

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For now. We're gonna get there one day. You're gonna look up, we're gonna be somebody. Barstool or our email is we're not experts1 at gmail.com if you want to get active.

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Man, Dave, you really have an opportunity to get in on something great.

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I'm gonna change Barstool's life.

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For the worst. Ah, you remember when he sold it and then bought it back for a dollar? It's a G move. If he said if he signs us, it will only be worth a dollar.

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We'd lose billions. He'd be like, it'd be like who like Conor McGregor. Who the fuck is that going?

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He's gonna be like, Well, how much do you guys need to quit your jobs currently? He's like, I'll give you half of that.

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I need 20 million. And now look at us. We done signed a $10 billion deal.

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It'd be like Brandon Aubrey. No, he has like 20 mil guaranteed.

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Man.

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Let's get straight into the news then.

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There's a lot that's been going on, man. What's your favorite movie?

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We're gonna start from the smallest to the biggest.

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Okay.

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It's the Brandon Aubrey news.

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Look, I feel like it's a great move. I I don't know if this is the smallest move. I feel like this is a bigger move, man. They're changing the game for kickers. These used to be two million dollar players.

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He got a check.

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Honestly, it feels like the it it really does feel like the Cowboys got a good deal. As crazy as that sounds.

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I would have paid Brandon Aubrey a check.

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I'd have paid, I'd have paid him 10 for sure.

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He's definitely a difference maker.

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I mean he scores a lot of points for a team that can't get in the end zone.

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Yeah.

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I mean, Dak put up some.

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I mean, I was about to say they did pretty well last year. But I mean he still scored a lot of points.

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I think we were talking about this when they were initially saying that like he was demanding $10 million a year. Like the value of having someone with the leg that he has, it's it really like kickers like him, they don't get enough credit. Yeah, no, it's or you guys gotta get to the 47-yard line and you can trot him out there and feel good about it.

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It's a solid move, especially if in the near future they change it to like the UFL rule where after behind what is it, 60 yards is four points.

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Then he's gonna opt out. Like now the price is 20 million dollars.

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Yeah, so shout out for he's at least in the he's in the bronze club of the bag collection agency, especially for a kicker.

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He's in the gold club for a kicker.

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Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Shout out to him for getting the bag. I'm a big fan of a man that gets a bag.

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Someone said something to me today, and it was the craziest thing. Yeah, I laughed so hard they said, bruh, how can you not pay Micah Parsons, but you can pay Brandon Aubrey? I said, bro, is there about a $40 million a year gap between that?

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Yeah. I don't know. I probably would have paid Micah.

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Well, I would have paid Micah too. I wouldn't pay Micah $47 million coming off an ACL. Just me. That's one of those things that's concerning.

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What about Will Anderson? Would you pay Will Anderson $50 million a year? Because that's what he got paid. I feel like we feel pretty differently about this. Oh, I love it. I know you love it. I I love it, one, because I called him the best defensive player in Food. You feel validated. I not even I not even that I necessarily believe that, but he's definitely paid like he's the best player on the defensive side of the ball in the NFL.

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And I think we talked about this a little bit when it first happened. You go around the league and you just say, all right, let's just look at the highest paid in every one of their positions. And outside of maybe two or three, I think we went over, that I looked at that I thought about that may actually be the best at their position.

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Yeah, he's just resetting the market.

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And I think that's the thing that I hate about it is it's just like for me, if I'm on like the owner's side of the table, like granted, I get it. He's younger, he's had two great years, he's trending up, he's a great player. Not saying he's not worth it with the cap. Cap went up and everything like that. My thing is is I just can't go to the negotiating table and pay somebody a significant amount more than the best at their position to do that same thing just because it's time for them to get paid.

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Yeah, but if it was time for Miles Gareth to get paid, he would he would get a similar type bag, if not more.

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Yeah, that's that's fine, but I would be like, look, how about we just pay you what he's paid because he's the best?

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No, because you got to reset the market.

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I do like it for Will Anderson because, well, I mean, it's essentially a five-year deal, but you know, it's only a three-year extension, so he's gonna be due to get a bigger bag again.

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Shout out to that.

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I like that for him doing a three-year extension.

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Well, you don't like it for defensive ends, but we're gonna love it when it comes to running backs.

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No, I mean, it's a I mean, it's big for edge rushers. I mean, you pay an edge rusher that kind of money because of like the premium on the position.

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Yeah. But I mean, I'm just saying that since the cap went up, like, you know, players like the the running back market's the one that's gonna be the big reset. Because when Do you think they go up? Oh, Jameer and Bijan are gonna get they're gonna get paid.

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But that's gonna be more so like I don't think it's gonna reset it from a standpoint because one way you're gonna be able to look at it and you're gonna say, yeah, you pay this type of talent for a Bijan or a Jameer Gibbs or whatnot, and obviously they're worth it. Yeah, but at the same time, you look at Jameer Gibbs' case is a little bit different because I feel like if you take Jameer Gibbs off that and replace it with any other good running back, he's still gonna produce their team's still gonna be good. How many of these are like standalone that don't have the rest of the roster around them that's just as good? Like the Eagles are just as good without Saquon as they are with them.

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Yeah, but we're not gonna be able to do that. I mean they won a Super Bowl with Saquon, but I'm fucking nuts.

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Yeah.

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But I'm saying I think the running back's a premium position, though. Like it should be.

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It should be, but it's not.

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I know.

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I feel like good running, like the elite of the elite running backs have a bigger impact on it with a good team. Like you look at B. John Robinson and you take him off that team, and I feel like they're the worst team in the league.

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They're three four-win teams.

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Yeah.

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They got like they're projected like seven and a half wins. I think like three and a half of those.

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I'm not getting I'm not getting burned by the Falcons over again. Like, I've been so high on ever since Desmond Ritter's second year. I think every year I've been like, oh yeah, the Falcons. They're making they're winning that division because all they are are this.

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Yeah, they're the Jets of the South.

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Man, I wouldn't even say that because they're not horrible.

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I don't know.

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Like they're a good, they're a okay football.

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Before Kirk Cousins came in there and turned it around, they were pretty horrible.

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Yeah. Well, uh, that's not true. They were they were the eighth pick in the draft.

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Yeah, but I'm just saying at the end of the season, they won like four games in a row when Kirk Cousins.

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My boy took over.

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Yeah.

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Right, but that just goes to show like all they need is competent play from the QB position to not be the worst team in the league.

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Yeah, right.

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I mean where it makes you feel like if they get good quarterback play.

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You gotta you got a guy.

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Right.

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You got a guy. But my point with that is You got a guy in Bijan, you got a guy in Drake London, you got a I don't know.

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But you can pay a running back when you have a good team around him.

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Right.

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And a quarterback. Like a good running back, like like we saw Ashton Genty last year to the point where everybody's like, oh yeah, Ashton Genty. Like we are we aren't acting like we weren't super high on Genty up until he played behind the worst offensive line in the NFL.

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Yeah. He was a terrible. Fantasy football-wise, he was still the running back 12.

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Yeah, still solid. Right. And everybody looks at it and it's just like, oh my god, he's not valuable. I gotta trade Ashton Genty plus something to go get a Jeremiah Love.

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Yeah, that's crazy. Like I mean, I get Jeremiah Love's probably gonna be, I don't know if he's I would say better.

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Bro, I think Genty's prime for a top five year.

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I like Genty. Yeah, I'm not I don't argue with that. I think Jeremiah Love's that good, though.

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I think he is, I think he's do you look at Jeremiah Love like we're gonna be looking at him, like how we look at McKenzie. B. John or B. John Gibbs. You think he's that caliber?

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I do.

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I can see it. I don't know if I agree with it, but I can see it for sure.

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And it's not even that Ashton Genty's not on that level. He just hasn't had the time. I mean, he had one year. He had one year on the worst team in football. It's just not fair. Right, too. They had nothing. They had nothing in nothing good offensive.

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Yeah, it was terrible. They had two brought Bowers.

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They had two players. Two players that were worth the fuck.

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They had three for some of us.

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Who?

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Because they did have Geno Smith. Geno Smith. You are, you'll never be able to not be the Gino Smith guy.

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That's true. We're on to we're on to greener pastures.

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Hey, what if Gino goes and lights it up in New York, dog?

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You'd be happy, me too. We'll both be happy. Well, hey, look, it's in our best interest. It's in our best interest that Geno Smith is good for both of us.

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Look, I feel good about Garrett Wilson at least. I don't think they're going to be good as far as winning, but like, you know, getting a Geno Smith a guy that is capable of at least throwing the ball is good for a bad team. Because he's at least going to be throwing the ball a lot, and a lot of those are going to have to go to Garrett Wilson.

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Like I said, if there's two guys that want Geno Smith to be good, it's you and I. It's you and I.

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Hey, well, I've got a little bit more, a little more riding on it than you. Because not only do I have the fantasy perspective, I mean in the midst two, one half of the way to being right about something crazy. Like I'll Gino back to the Jets. Now he's got to do is take them to the promised land.

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But you want that'd be the craziest story ever. And then I might die.

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The CIA is gonna come get me.

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That would be the craziest story of all time. How about this? How about this? The commanders drop some new unis. How'd you feel? Beautiful.

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The black jersey sick.

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Yeah.

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The helmet with the spear is sick.

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Sick.

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I wish they would have put it on all of them.

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Bring back the red skin.

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I will say I don't love it with the W.

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Yeah, it's not the same. I love the jerseys. I love the jerseys. The white jerseys are sick.

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No, I just I just love the jersey. Yeah.

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I think it's just a great, like, I'm not a big fan of traditional jersey. You know me. I'm not, that's not me. I'm an Oregon type guy. Let's get some shit out here. It looks fresh. But that jersey, that jersey's just classic.

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I wish they would go. Like, I'm like, I'm with you, bro. I wish they would go back to the Redskins.

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Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous. Well, well, you know, like it was one of the sickest logos, maybe ever.

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Not only that, what's crazy is did you see, I think it was like maybe like a year ago, where like they started like petitioning to switch it back to the Redskins, like Indian tribes are or some shit like that.

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I hope that's true.

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No, that that is a true thing that happened. I don't make up fact.

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They should have done it.

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They should have done it. They should have. The problem is, is when they went away from that, it was just in a period of time where you know everything was offensive, dog.

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Yeah.

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Like, I mean, the Cleveland Indians, they're now the guardians.

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Trash. Stupid. Their logo, hard as fuck. Hard as fuck. What are the best logos in baseball?

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I thought that shit was dope. Personally, me, if I was an Indian, I would say having a football team named after me is probably pretty fucking lit.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

Yeah, right. Look, let's not act like the Seminole tribe in Florida, like they don't just be running shit. Then people's got casinos, they be getting checks. They literally have an Indian on a horse run out in the middle of the field and spear the middle of the field. Don't nobody say anything about that.

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No, nothing.

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The Chiefs because the Seminole tribes, like, yeah, bruh, cool. We got a college named after us.

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And the Chiefs. Even the Chiefs.

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Dude, yeah, that shit. That shit's lame as hell. Man. Man.

SPEAKER_06 13:35

That's not offensive. I mean, it's it's not. But the Redskins. I mean, I I guess I get it why it would have been offensive in that matter. Like at that time period.

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It's still sick.

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Right.

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It's still sick. It's still a sick ass. It was still a sick ass logo. They had the fucking the best jerseys. They they yeah, I'm glad they went back to those.

SPEAKER_06 13:58

The Ravens dropped another uni.

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Yep, the Ravens dropped a uni. I like the helmet.

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I like the red eyes in there. It's probably like the both alternates.

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I mean, a lot of people think that they're the best jerseys that have dropped.

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That's nuts.

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I I don't know if I disagree, bro. The both of the alternates are sick. I just they're sick, bro. It's just look, my take on it is it's kind of hard to fuck up purple and black.

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Right. It's too hard.

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It's two great colors. They go great together.

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Facts.

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You know what I mean? Like it's kind of hard to fuck it up.

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And I like how they do, like, I like that they're doing the all black on like the like on a night game. Yeah. Like that's dope that they're doing that. Honestly, honestly, maybe this is a hot take. I see shit like this, and I'm like, damn, bro, that that alternate helmet so sick. Why couldn't we just made that the regular one? Yeah, for the I mean, outside of that, they didn't really change much.

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They didn't change a lot. And I think that's what I did. But they still look good.

SPEAKER_06 14:56

So when you look at the only team that did a rebrand, like new jersey, I feel like if you're gonna do that, we're the ones that did a rebrand. Let's change the logo a little bit. Even not even necessarily changing the logo. I would have been cool with it saying, like, okay, we're gonna introduce this new logo instead of making it an alternate jersey. How about we make that the new primary and then take the classic logo as the alternate?

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Right. Just change it up a little bit.

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Yeah, freshen it up a little bit.

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I don't mind just the new jersey. I think there was I think there was five, yeah, trash. Those are definitely the worst.

SPEAKER_06 15:35

The Falcons were trash, those are definitely the worst. I kind of here we go, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Before there was five, but here's the fifth, and it's the Rams. Oh my god. They changed literally nothing.

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So it's actually nothing.

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Yeah, I know. They changed the logo.

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What did they change the logo to?

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It's like all yellow.

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What did that what did they have before?

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Like little like I think it was like a white, like it was like a white interior with a yellow outline. But it's literally like a all yellow instead of that.

SPEAKER_06 16:12

That's so fucking stupid.

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So fucking stupid. It was so fucking dumb. That shit. It was the I saw a bunch of the memes that were the Spider-Man meme pointing to the Spider-Man. You know that meme?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's I saw that a whole bunch. I dude, I saw that they dropped, I was like, oh shit, the Rams dropped new uniforms, but these are gonna be fire.

SPEAKER_06 16:32

Yeah, that's what I saw. When I saw so that was the thing that went through my head when I first saw it. I was like, they said new logo, and I was just like, what is it? And I was like sitting, bro, I'm sitting over here probably for like 20 minutes.

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Yeah.

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Trying to figure out, and I finally gave up.

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It brings me back to it brings me to my bigger point about the whole situation.

SPEAKER_06 16:52

And I so they literally just took they literally just took the white out of the LA and made it yellow.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's all it is. The jerseys didn't change a fucking bit.

SPEAKER_06 17:05

That's so fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Yeah. Why would you get people excited about it?

SPEAKER_06 17:09

They've changed it like three times.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Yeah, but I guess you could do that. Here's here's here's what bugs me. You want to hear what bugs me? This is my this is my big this is my big thing.

SPEAKER_06 17:18

They did so they could have done so much more with that.

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Go back to what St. Louis had.

SPEAKER_06 17:23

Like the gold versus the yellow?

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Yes. Them shit, the navy blue and the gold, them shits with the game. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 17:32

I think I do kind of prefer the the ram.

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It was an actual ram as the logo.

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I would have liked for them to do which I mean the original change was fine, but like I'm cool with like uh No, for real.

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Look up a picture.

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Was it the all did they have an alternate logo?

SPEAKER_02 17:49

I don't think so. No, but just go look up the old Rams uniforms.

SPEAKER_06 17:53

No, I I remember them. I think I prefer the old Rams logo higher color, like the royal blue and the yellow over the navy and the gold. It was kind of dull for me. Dude, the dull was. But I do wish like the logo would go back more to that. Like modernize it a little bit, like make it an actual RAM.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

Yeah. Yeah, they could have done way more. I guess we can't put them. I guess we can't put the Falcons last on the list just because they at least did more.

SPEAKER_06 18:23

I mean they didn't change their logo.

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Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_06 18:26

They did the same thing, except one of them only changed the logo, and one of them only changed the jersey.

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Yeah.

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They were like, we're just gonna have a red jersey.

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At least you change, yeah, that's trash.

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And they changed the font a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Yeah, and you can't even do red on red, no color rush. That's dirty. What the color rush?

SPEAKER_06 18:47

Yeah, they're gonna go all black, the throwback uni, the throwback unis.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Why is all black okay? But you can't go, I can't go all red.

SPEAKER_06 18:53

They don't let you do why can't they do all red? I mean Or they're you just saying that they didn't.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Yeah, they didn't.

SPEAKER_06 18:58

That's not like one of their definitely all red logos.

SPEAKER_02 19:00

No, I'm just saying like unis, but yeah, like you remember when uh the Texans with the red helmet. Like chrome down. Yeah, that bitch was sick. That he was sick as hell. I uh, you know, what about let me see here?

SPEAKER_06 19:19

Player news. This is the craziest thing for me. I feel like this is about to take a pretty good chunk of time to I feel like we're about to go in on this.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

What? The Bengals trading the 10th pick for Dexter Lawrence.

SPEAKER_06 19:33

Insane.

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Like insane in a bad way.

SPEAKER_06 19:36

Yeah, I mean, look, I get it for Sensi trying to like, alright, we're just gonna do something. You gotta do a move like this if you're Cincy to get somebody that's proven to help gonna help your defense versus taking a chance on like a prospect. But uh the 10th overall pick for an interior defensive lineman's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

And he'll be 29. Look, my first in the upcoming season.

SPEAKER_06 20:00

My first thing that I thought of was when the they traded that to the Bengals. My my initial thought was, damn, why couldn't the Titans have traded Jeffrey Simmons for that?

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Would you have done that?

SPEAKER_06 20:11

If I I mean I would fucking try, like, don't get hold on. Don't hear what I'm not saying. Alright. I would trade Jeffrey Simmons for the 10th pick in the draft.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Right. But not the 11th?

SPEAKER_06 20:25

I would probably trade it for the 11th. 15th? No, probably not.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 20:31

Really? Really? So there's a fine line. Like the 10th, like absolutely. Well, for me, it's like, okay, it's a defensive tackle. Especially one you're gonna have to turn around and also are paying a check to.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Oh, they paid him a check. So they paid, well, they pay him five less million dollars a year than they could have paid to Hendrickson.

SPEAKER_06 20:52

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Who got like 20 cents?

SPEAKER_06 20:54

That's what I don't love about it is you're trading that asset, and that's what makes draft picks so appealing, is you're getting a blue trip prospect at a cost-controlled price.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

Right.

SPEAKER_06 21:05

For a long time. You got five years of a the draft slot of that's gonna be what six, seven, eight million dollars?

SPEAKER_02 21:11

You could have you could have kept Trey Hendrickson, gave up five extra million dollars, and still had the tenth pick.

SPEAKER_06 21:18

Right. Which I get it. I mean, you could if you were the Bengals, you couldn't have re-signed Trey Hendrickson.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

Why? Just because the way they did him?

SPEAKER_06 21:25

Yeah, I think it makes him look fucking stupid because why didn't you why didn't you just trade him when you had the chance?

SPEAKER_02 21:31

Yeah, when you had some chance.

SPEAKER_06 21:32

You let him when you let him go for nothing, you're like, we're gonna run this back one more time. Like when y'all realize when he was a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Yeah, like he was really gonna like he was gonna really make the difference last year.

SPEAKER_06 21:41

Right. Maybe if Joe Burrow would have been healthy all season, but like the moment we knew Joe Burrow was out for a significant amount of time the next the next day I'm waking up and I'm saying, All right, who's trading for Trey Hendrickson today?

SPEAKER_02 21:52

I I think it makes the Bengals better.

SPEAKER_06 21:54

Definitely makes their defense should be better.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

They they have went and got some pieces.

SPEAKER_06 22:00

Dude, you gave up a first round pick.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

I don't love it.

SPEAKER_06 22:03

Gave up, you traded the 10th pick. And then gave him what a three year sack?

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Huh?

SPEAKER_06 22:07

He had one sack last year. No, he had half a sack. Half a sack.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:10

I uh Which I know that's not a defensive tackle thing.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

But I mean, he was also getting grilled for not being great against the run. He had a down year last year. Look, he's I don't love that he's old. Durr. I mean, he'll be 29 going into the season this year. I do think it makes an immediate impact, which to me it just feels like it's the Bengals going to Joe Burrow and being like, hey, we're trying. Look, we signed Brian Cook and Boyam off Jonathan Allen and now we traded for Dexter Lawrence.

SPEAKER_06 22:43

I'm expecting this defense to be significantly better.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

Their defensive line should be.

SPEAKER_06 22:48

I mean, that's like the key.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

Their secondary, I mean they probably still trash. Yeah, they have no corners. Do they have any corners? Cam Taylor Britt? Is he I I guess he probably still there.

SPEAKER_06 23:00

Yeah. But did they get a Wouzier back? Did he go back?

SPEAKER_02 23:04

I don't know. If he did, though, it's not like that's another like it's nothing special. It's it's just, you know, like there's a lot of work to be done in the secondary at least.

SPEAKER_06 23:16

Right.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

The defensive if you have a good defensive line, like that's cool. The Titans had a good defensive line, and they fucking suck.

SPEAKER_06 23:24

They had a good defensive player online. Jeffrey Simmons was just that fucking nasty.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:30

He's the best defensive tackle in football.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Maybe so.

SPEAKER_06 23:34

He's a fucking animal. I'm excited to see what Jeffrey Simmons does.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

Yeah, now that he's a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 23:40

But like now that you've got some help up there and you've got a defensive minded coach, like I'm expecting Jeffrey Simmons to have like a defensive player of the year candidate type season.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Yeah, wait till they draft, wait till they draft my boy, David Bailey.

SPEAKER_06 23:54

Look, speaking of David Bailey.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

Wait till we draft Arville Reese.

SPEAKER_06 23:58

Speaking of David Bailey.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Sonny Styles, J Bud's favorite.

SPEAKER_06 24:02

I'm gonna be hot.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

I'm just playing.

SPEAKER_06 24:04

I'm gonna be so hot when we're doing this, and that's the pick. I might fucking break your Mac. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 24:13

For Sonny Styles, I'm gonna be over here excited.

SPEAKER_06 24:15

I mean, I just don't love it, bro. You don't love it. My thing was is with it, like, and it boils down to I just want Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Can we can we talk about Zay Flowers? Can we talk about this?

SPEAKER_06 24:28

Yeah, how do you feel about this?

SPEAKER_02 24:30

So Zay Flowers. Yeah, go ahead. You want to do it? Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 24:34

No, you got it, because I don't have my notebook.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Zay Flowers went on a podcast, and he said that they were so injured because of the way John Harbaugh ran practices. He said that they were they were going hard all the way up to the end of the season. How do you feel about this?

SPEAKER_06 24:51

Well, they can only practice in pads like what is it like four times?

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Yeah, but apparently then not every team does this. Not every team practices in pads.

SPEAKER_06 25:00

They saved it for the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

Do you do you think me personally, you want to know what I thought personally?

SPEAKER_06 25:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

When I heard this, I was like, bruh, Zay Flowers seems a little soft.

SPEAKER_06 25:12

Yeah, I don't like that at all. I mean, people get fucking hurt all the time. Like you see people, you see people tear their ACL non-contact.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Yeah, constantly.

SPEAKER_06 25:22

Like Malik Neighbors fucking tore his ACL jumping in the air.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

On his first pass from Jackson Dart.

SPEAKER_06 25:28

Man, crushing. Some of us can overcome that kind of life. Oh, man. But but like, bro, every fucking how many people have we seen you just get laid the fuck out and get hurt? Like, bro, it's football.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

It's football, dude.

SPEAKER_06 25:44

And not only that.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Like, I'm not saying, like, I'm not even saying you should be in practice and trying to kill each other.

SPEAKER_06 25:49

And here's the thing, I don't want to fucking hear that as a Titans fan because there was like a two-year stretch. You remember when the Titans went back to back seasons with like the most players injured? Like played in a game in a season.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Yeah, I just think it's kind of crazy to blame it on John Harbaugh.

SPEAKER_06 26:08

Yeah, blame it on the coach.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

He blamed it all on John. He's like, dude, we're terrible. And I'm expecting Because we practiced hard. That's such a crazy thing to say.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:19

I mean, we've seen team, we've seen we see every team. But what is injury?

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Injury's gonna, you know, like if all your good players are injured, it's gonna result in you probably not being very good.

SPEAKER_06 26:28

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

So he's just essentially, he's just essentially, yeah, right. Like he's just essentially saying that he went too hard. You I feel like I feel like if they were going too hard, like Lamar would have said something.

SPEAKER_06 26:39

Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

You know what I'm saying? Like when if you're like when your superstar of superstars isn't out here being like, yeah, you know, I don't like a football player saying that we're working too hard. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 26:50

That's brutal sport.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

That's a crazy thing to say.

SPEAKER_06 26:53

Insane take. Like my as a coach, I'm hearing that and I don't like that.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:01

Because one, one, I hate, I hate when these when people have so much shit to say after somebody's gone.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Man, he definitely wasn't saying it when John Harbaugh was there.

SPEAKER_06 27:12

Right. Even as like the coach, even if you're Jesse Mentor, I don't like, I don't like we're hey, look, that's beyond us. Like, we're past that. This is a new era, new regime. Like, we're moving differently now. So why are we talking about that?

SPEAKER_02 27:29

Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_06 27:31

Why is anything with John Harbaugh even the top?

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Why didn't you go to John Harbaugh and say this?

SPEAKER_06 27:39

Yeah, he's a bitch. All right, bet. Sunday, when Sunday comes, Rashad Bateman's gonna be lined up in your spot.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

I promise you. I promise you this. JSN, he wants JSN money, Zay Flowers does.

SPEAKER_06 27:54

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

I promise you. JSN has never complained about practicing too hard. He's a dog. He's a dog.

SPEAKER_05 28:03

It's like any of these head down, he he shows up with his hard hat and his lunch pail.

SPEAKER_06 28:07

It's like any of these great players. Right. That's how you you don't fucking become great by not working that hard.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

Yeah, you don't just wake up and say, The great players, the great players are like, yeah, we're still hitting.

SPEAKER_06 28:20

I'm showing up early.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 28:21

I'm staying late. I can't wait.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

I can't wait to get this work in.

SPEAKER_06 28:26

Man, they woke up 6 a.m.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Zay Flowers is waking up dreading his day. He's like he's like me.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Yeah, he's like me.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

He's like, oh man, I gotta go to work today, bro. You sound like a fucking bitch, dog. He's got millions of reasons to work that fucking hard. Man, bro, you only gotta do you only gotta do this for a couple months after year. Ask, ask, ask the Marine.

SPEAKER_06 28:51

Man, I bet I bet a Marine would love to just go up and pack.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Go ask the cashier at your local grocery store.

SPEAKER_06 29:00

Man, brother, I'm working that hard to grab water on the bench on Sundays, bro. I swear to God.

SPEAKER_04 29:07

Look, I swear to God, you over here complaining.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

It's just a crazy thing to complain about. Man, when you're getting paid in a earlier in the offseason, you're talking about you want JSN type money.

SPEAKER_06 29:17

Like, buddy, you're not even half of that. Man, bro, for and I I don't like paying the I don't like the JSN contract. Imagine, imagine what I would say. Here's what now look. It would have sounded better if he said I want Alec Pierce money. I would have been like, okay, I think Zay Flowers is better than Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

It's more relatable.

SPEAKER_06 29:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

I don't think Zay Flowers is better than Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_06 29:43

What?

SPEAKER_02 29:44

No, absolutely not. I don't.

SPEAKER_06 29:46

Yeah, you're gonna have to give me some evidence to what do you I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

The fact that probably Alec Pierce had more touchdowns last year than Zay Flowers has had his entire career.

SPEAKER_05 29:56

I mean, it's hard when you look, the Ravens offense isn't exactly designed for wide receivers to succeed.

SPEAKER_06 30:04

Okay, they're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Oh, but Mark Andrews can.

SPEAKER_06 30:07

Buddy, he's built for that. You get down the players when your drives are designed to get to look, we don't want a 60-yard bomb. We don't want 30. We want to get down to the nitty-gritty, two-yard Derrick.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

That's not even true, bro. Like Zay Flowers would catch bombs all the time. He just wouldn't get to the end zone.

SPEAKER_06 30:26

Right, because his quarterback ain't leading him far enough. Throwing it up in traffic.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Too little.

SPEAKER_06 30:32

That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that because I do like Lamar Jackson. That's not a quarterback thing. I agree. He's too fucking little to not be Tyree Kill fast.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

Yeah, right. That's and and this is the thing, is Alec Pierce is what 6'3, and he's running a 4-3. He's as fast as Zay Flowers.

SPEAKER_06 30:51

I don't like Alec Pierce, though. He's not a route runner. You just you don't like Zay Flowers over him because I can I can get Zay Flowers over here. You don't like Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Say it. Say why you don't like him.

SPEAKER_05 31:02

Because he's a white wide receiver. Is that what you wanted me to say?

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Yeah, that's why you don't like him. It's we don't like. There's a reason why. There's not a ton of them. You didn't like Julian Edelman. Edelnut. You didn't like Wes Welker.

SPEAKER_05 31:18

Look, they had the qualities that you like in a wide receiver. Quick but not fast.

SPEAKER_04 31:24

You don't, you don't like uh you don't like my boy Lad McConkey.

SPEAKER_06 31:28

Quick but not fast.

SPEAKER_04 31:30

Look, Alec Pierce is fast, but not fast.

SPEAKER_06 31:33

You got your exceptions to the rules, buddy. That's the reason. But that's part of it. Because when you look at their games, Alec Pierce isn't a 12-15 target guy. He's not a catch me a slant over the middle and make something shake. He's not a chain mover.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Can we make a better trick pony? Can we make a bet right now?

SPEAKER_06 31:54

Depending on what it is.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

I bet you Alec Pierce has a better season than Zay Flowers.

SPEAKER_06 32:03

Yards, receptions.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

I mean, Zay Flowers will have more receptions. A lot more. I don't even know if it'll be a lot more. Let's not go crazy. I I I think I have I think I have Alec Pierce probably around the 60 range right now.

SPEAKER_06 32:18

That's that's 60, 70. That's disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

It's gonna be a very Mike Evans stat line.

SPEAKER_06 32:23

That's disgusting. A seven a $30 million. Think about what you just say.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

You would pay Mike Evans that. I'm not saying he's that. I'm just saying he's that type of receiver. So that's probably where it's.

SPEAKER_06 32:35

Mike Evans is miles of the receiver.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

I'm not saying he's Mike Evans. He could be. Hey, look, bro. Look, look, you don't know. He could be a yacht. A yacht? You don't know. You don't know. He could be a yacht. I know it's Zay Flowers.

SPEAKER_06 32:54

He might be a fucking jumbo.

SPEAKER_05 32:57

I'm taking Zay Flowers over Alexander.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

So we're gonna are we are we gonna make the bet? I bet he has more yards and touchdowns. And I'll give you the 30 receptions more that he'll probably have. Than little stupid bullshit ass bubble screens he's gonna catch.

SPEAKER_06 33:14

I would be willing to bet. Here, let's just make it simple. Let's just make it simple. Alec Pierce is the expaid receiver. I guarantee you he does not finish with a season comparable to what he's paid to have.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

That's not that's not what we're doing.

SPEAKER_06 33:31

Take his contract.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

No, no, no, no. That's not what we're doing. Because if Zay Flowers gets paid more than Alec Pierce does, you better come in here fucking.

SPEAKER_06 33:41

I'm gonna come with the same energy.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Hot.

SPEAKER_06 33:43

If you are a receiver getting paid that kind of money, you have to perform the way you are paid to perform.

SPEAKER_02 33:51

The bet is is Alec Pierce gonna have a better season than Zay Flowers. Bro, he didn't last year.

SPEAKER_06 33:56

He didn't last year.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

He did.

SPEAKER_06 33:58

No, he didn't.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

He did.

SPEAKER_06 34:00

Okay. In where? In touchdowns only. That's literally it. It's pretty important. He didn't have more yards or receptions.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

How many yards did Alec Pierce have? 1,063?

SPEAKER_06 34:12

And Zay Flowers had 1,200. And double the catches.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

What did Alec Pierce have? 40?

SPEAKER_06 34:20

47 catches, like a barely a thousand yards. And what, eight touchdowns?

SPEAKER_02 34:25

He also lost his quarterback like week eight. But that's okay. That's fine, but obviously not.

SPEAKER_06 34:42

I'm just saying, bro. Alec Pierce is not who the fuck you think he is. So make the bet. Make the bet then. I will bet. We can bet Zay Flowers has a better season than Alec Pierce yet again. I will bet that.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

You want to bet it?

SPEAKER_06 34:58

Yes, for the people right now.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

20 bucks.

SPEAKER_06 35:01

20 bucks. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

Fuck it. Let's do a hundred. Nah, do you want to do a hundred?

SPEAKER_06 35:05

Do whatever you pick. I'm going to win the bet. I got cold hard cash. Fuck it. Do it for the house. Like, that's how good I feel about it.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

My car for your car. Bro, I'm making the bet. 100 bucks. That's how good I feel about it.

SPEAKER_06 35:20

100 bucks, bro.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

Because Daniel Jones is going to be back week one.

SPEAKER_06 35:25

No, the fucking.

SPEAKER_04 35:29

You don't think so.

SPEAKER_05 35:30

But do you need a do you need a spread with this?

SPEAKER_02 35:34

I don't. I don't know. I don't think that you're taking into account that like I think that you're right that they paid him an obscene amount of money, but that's gonna come with an uptick in production.

SPEAKER_06 35:46

Is it? Absolutely. Why?

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Because it has to.

SPEAKER_06 35:49

I guess.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

You traded your other decent wide receiver. You have another guy that's already.

SPEAKER_06 35:55

I'd be willing to bet they got look, another hot take. I'll bet another hundred dollars that that Josh Downs sees more of an in uptick in production from Michael Pittman leaving than Alec Pierce does.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

I mean, he'll definitely see, I mean, percentage-wise, probably.

SPEAKER_06 36:14

I'll even go a step further.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Say it. Say you think Josh Downs is gonna have a hot better.

SPEAKER_06 36:19

This is the hottest take.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

What? I'm gonna bet.

SPEAKER_06 36:22

I'm gonna bet you this is the hottest take of it. He's gonna have a season that's in line with A.D. Mitchell in New York.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

Who is?

SPEAKER_06 36:30

Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Okay, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 36:33

Guarantee it.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

You want to bet $100 on that?

SPEAKER_06 36:35

No. No, but I'm gonna go that far and I will stand on it.

SPEAKER_02 36:39

Put your money on it.

SPEAKER_06 36:40

No, I don't feel good about it. It's not a good bet.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Put your money on it, bro.

SPEAKER_06 36:43

The odds on that would be like $100 to $200. Like I would bet $100 to your $200.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

We straight bet around here, bro. We're not pussies. Nah, buddy.

SPEAKER_06 36:51

You you have not used parallax except one. I had to beg you to do that.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_06 36:56

Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

That's crazy. That's crazy as fuck. That's crazy. You you're not betting it because you know it's not true, so you shouldn't say it.

SPEAKER_06 37:06

No, I'm not betting it because I don't feel strongly enough to bet on it. Because you know it's not true. If I had, if there, if there was like you have to bet on this one way or the other.

SPEAKER_02 37:14

Like, what do you think that look? Like, we obviously think that that Alec Pierce has two separate ceilings. Like, you obviously don't think if he has a ceiling season, that his ceiling season's what I think his ceiling is catches, 1200 yards, eight touchdowns. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 37:31

I don't see his ceiling. You how much better do you think he's gonna get? What is his ceiling to you?

SPEAKER_02 37:36

I if his ceiling probably like 13 and 12.

SPEAKER_06 37:42

That's a 30. I don't know. With maybe 65 catches, 60 catches, like a 60 catch guy is not coming out here and he has the highest A dot in the league.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

It's absolutely possible.

SPEAKER_06 37:58

He's not dropping 60. You showed me a 1300 yard, 12 catch guy, 12 touchdown guy in the history of the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

It might not have happened yet.

SPEAKER_06 38:07

You telling me this nigga's an anomaly?

SPEAKER_02 38:09

I I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_05 38:10

Come on, bro. It's fucking Alec Piers.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

Wait, what? I gotta look up Mike Evans' numbers. He's never done that? No.

SPEAKER_06 38:18

Because Mike Evans is probably better than what you're giving him credit for.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

That's crazy. You're right. He had one season and which was 96 catches. The rest is 74, 71, 67, 70, 74, 77, 79.

SPEAKER_06 38:34

And which one of them is fucked 60 and 1300?

SPEAKER_02 38:38

He didn't do it.

SPEAKER_06 38:38

No, no, I can tell you.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

He didn't do it.

SPEAKER_05 38:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

He didn't do it.

SPEAKER_05 38:42

So you're telling me that he's gonna be a Mike Evans type of guy. And to do that, you have to do something that Mike Evans did not do.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

This is crazy. This is actually crazy. Mike Evans had 96 catches in 2016. It was his second highest yard total ever.

SPEAKER_06 39:00

Yeah, he probably had what do you have? Probably about 1,400.

SPEAKER_04 39:03

1,321.

SPEAKER_06 39:05

So you're telling me.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

He had 96 catches.

SPEAKER_05 39:11

I'm gonna give you a chance.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

I'm not going back on it.

SPEAKER_06 39:15

That's so fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

I'm not going back on it. I'm not.

SPEAKER_06 39:18

I can't.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

I like Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_06 39:20

We're losing, we're losing people. People are gonna listen to this and be like, yeah, I don't want to listen again because Raleigh's dumb as fuck. He sounds like Skip Bayless. I sound like a Skip Bayless ass sports tape.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

It's just cause I like it's because I like Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_05 39:33

It's because he's white. Say it. It's because he's the same reasons that I hate Alec Pierce. It's the same reason you love him. You want to see a white receiver be that guy.

SPEAKER_03 39:54

That could be me out there.

SPEAKER_05 39:56

Little did you know that you had the worst ankles this woman has ever seen.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

It was never meant to be.

SPEAKER_05 40:04

He didn't have a chance.

SPEAKER_06 40:05

Never meant to be, uh anything, anyways, bro. You kind of got me out of character for a minute. I'm kind of hot.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

You shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_06 40:16

That's racist. My man said Alec Pierce is good.

SPEAKER_04 40:19

You're the one that does like you're the one that don't like him because he's white.

SPEAKER_06 40:23

I don't like it's not, I don't like him not because he's white.

SPEAKER_04 40:26

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 40:27

It's not because he's white.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

It is very much. No, it's because he's just you don't support, you don't support white recipients.

SPEAKER_06 40:34

I don't see color, brother. I am I'm literally biracial.

SPEAKER_04 40:37

That's okay. Your uncle ruck is just got a little prejudice. Your uncle ruck is. That's all.

SPEAKER_06 40:43

Same reason why look. Don't get it twisted. I like Cooper DeGine.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

No, you don't. At the end of the day, you were probably the guy. White cornerbacks shouldn't be a thing.

SPEAKER_06 40:54

No, bro. I loved it. No, because he it's no, because Cooper DeGene's actually good.

SPEAKER_05 41:00

I don't like the one that they trot out in Denver. Riley Buzz. Hey boy, beginning to, I'll never forget. No, bro. I'll never forget when Cooper DeGene bought them the relevancy, and everybody's like, oh yeah, there's one in Denver too. It's pretty good. Then he played the Beagles.

SPEAKER_04 41:18

He got torched. It's not fair because he had to play Jamar Chase the whole time. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

I'm pretty sure Pat Sertan was Pat Sartan out that game. It doesn't even matter because he did get torched.

SPEAKER_05 41:33

He got fucking torched. They were like, whoever he's on, that's who we're going for.

SPEAKER_04 41:37

Dude, there's a great story about why he wears long sleeves. Do you know why?

SPEAKER_05 41:43

They don't want him to find out he's white.

SPEAKER_04 41:45

No, it's it's him that does it. He's the reason that it happens. He's like they he always got judged because he was a white corner.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

And he should have been. He should be judged. He's terrible. He'd be out there getting fucking abused. I must.

SPEAKER_04 42:02

They do, bruh. They'll just target him over and over and over.

SPEAKER_06 42:06

There's just some positions that you just want. Look, there's the exception to the rule.

SPEAKER_02 42:11

Look, did you know? Did you know Reed Blinkenship and Cooper DeGene have a podcast called Exciting Whites?

SPEAKER_04 42:22

Oh my God, bro. I've never listened to it, but I bro. I hope it's I hope it's great.

SPEAKER_06 42:29

Man.

SPEAKER_04 42:30

I hope it's great.

SPEAKER_06 42:31

But you but you know, there's certain it's just certain things, bro. It's just like, look, that's the reason why you see all of look, just think, here's the thing. The best white wide receivers just ended up being tight ends. Because they just couldn't be built good enough to be wide receivers, just not fast enough. Can't jump high enough typically. Here's the thing. You got a wide receiver that once runs a 4-6, 4-7. Oh my god, it's terrible. Your tight end runs a 4-5, 4-6.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Man. You're like, that guy's fast. He must be over the moon for Kenyon Sadiq.

SPEAKER_06 43:13

Oh, yeah. I like him. Uh bro. If the Chiefs get him, dear God. We're going on another run.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Are you trading for him in fantasy?

SPEAKER_06 43:21

If he goes to the Chiefs, I'm going to try to.

SPEAKER_05 43:24

Except there's going to be somebody that beats me to it. He's going to trade the, he's going to undo everything he did good.

SPEAKER_04 43:34

Oh, man. You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful with those athletic freaks, man.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

If you watched, if you watch John Gruden's Corbett QB camp, he thinks Taylor Green's gonna be the sickest.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

He said, he said, I had a chance to coach Randall Cunningham. And I messed it all up. He said, I can cry right now.

SPEAKER_04 43:57

Hey, bruh. Hey, I I came away watching that clip of John Gruden talking to him. I said, damn, he might end up being sick.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

Man.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

He said his potential is the best quarterback in the league.

SPEAKER_06 44:08

I just don't see it. Is it actually gonna be uh Chris Ola?

SPEAKER_02 44:13

I was thinking, I was thinking to myself, I was like, man, I might need to get in early.

SPEAKER_05 44:18

Oh, he'll be in he'll be an undrafted free agent.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

I was like, I might need to get in early, man.

SPEAKER_06 44:24

I mean, you you got in early on some some other people, you know. You were early on the goat.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Crash out king, maybe.

SPEAKER_06 44:31

You were early on Puka Nako.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Yeah, that's a good one to be early on, man.

SPEAKER_06 44:37

We got one last thing. Before we get into the draft, man, you know, this this isn't really any news, a noteworthy thing, except for people that are Titans fans. Nashville will host the Super Bowl in 2030.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

It's pretty exciting.

SPEAKER_06 44:50

How do you feel about Cam Ward going to winning his second Super Bowl back to back in Nashville?

SPEAKER_02 44:56

That would be awesome. I enjoy the fact that I won't be able to afford to go.

SPEAKER_06 45:02

But the good thing is we'll at least be able to go to like now we'll have to get down there early. We're gonna have to take some vacation for it, but we can go for Super Bowl festivities in Nashville.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Dude, is it crazy that none of that really excites me? Like, I want to be able to go to the game.

SPEAKER_06 45:17

If the Titans are there, I'm gonna be there.

SPEAKER_02 45:20

Like, I want to go to the game.

SPEAKER_06 45:21

Even if I mean, bro, look.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

I know a way to get us in.

SPEAKER_06 45:24

Bro, look, all we gotta do. By this time, bro, surely to God, we can save up five grand in four years.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

It's gonna be way more than five grand.

SPEAKER_06 45:33

Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

It'll be way more than.

SPEAKER_06 45:38

You gotta think, bro.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

That's gonna be some bullshit.

SPEAKER_06 45:41

All we gotta do is leave down there that day, as long as we're cool with getting having to leave early as fuck to get down there. Like 6 a.m. to head to Nashville to get there. Like, we don't have to pay the expenses to get a hotel and all that shit. Yeah. So literally all we have to buy is the ticket.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

Yeah, but I would rather take my five grand to the casino.

SPEAKER_06 46:02

Well, look, here's the thing. Here's the save five grand against the wall up at the very top. We'll we'll save five grand the night before the Super Bowl. We'll ride up to the casino. We'll put five grand on black.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Man.

SPEAKER_06 46:18

And we'll double it. And then at that point, we went to the Super Bowl for free.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

And if we lose it all, we'll just do a 10 grand get even or get even worse. And we'll be out 20 grand. And it'll be a bad day. No, look, to be honest with you, this is how we get in.

SPEAKER_05 46:39

I promise you that.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

This is how we get in. For real. We just we gotta get on radio row.

SPEAKER_06 46:45

Man, I was just about to actually go there.

SPEAKER_02 46:47

We we gotta get on radio row. That's our goal. We have a we have an attainable, we have an attainable goal.

SPEAKER_06 46:53

Look, it was this really is a potentially obtainable goal.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

100%. It is 100% an obtainable goal by 2030. We can find our way to the Super Bowl by the park.

SPEAKER_06 47:08

We just might have to get a little edgy, bro. We just might have to get controversial. We might have to say some shit to go viral.

SPEAKER_02 47:14

Even if it's you did, you already did. You said you hate white wide receivers. There we go. That's the clip. That's the clip. That's the clip. But all in all, man, cool for Nashville. It'll be hell traveling through there considering the roads and shit are already fucked. So hopefully they get checked out. Yeah, I uh I hope that I hope they can get that figured out.

SPEAKER_06 47:42

Yeah, I think it's just gonna be fucked.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

I hope that that gets figured out. I hope the Titans are good. I hope we have a real chance to go.

SPEAKER_06 47:50

Yeah, bro, it's gonna be exciting. I'm excited for it.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

I think it's the perfect timeline, kinda.

SPEAKER_06 47:56

I mean, that gives you time to where you know, and it's funny because as far as the timeline saying, you're saying that because it's like if Cam's good, the Titans have a chance to be there.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:07

The downside of it comes is historically speaking, once you cut the big check to your quarterback, not there. Yeah, it's a little bit harder to get there.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

Yeah. You know, Sam seems uh Cam said Sam. Cam seems uh Cam seems like an unselfish guy.

SPEAKER_06 48:27

Look, I look yeah, he's gonna get the bag. If he's good, they're gonna he's gonna want it all. I get it. And it's I get it, but like, bruh, it's so dumb, especially in Tennessee, bro. Here's the thing a $40 million contract in Tennessee is the same as a $65 million contract in New York or California.

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Yeah, but those two states, what about Vegas or Florida or Texas or Well, that's fine.

SPEAKER_06 48:57

We're talking about football here exactly. Yeah, but I'm saying that I'm saying they want to win where they're at. As long as anybody as long as the Titans are gonna be willing to give them the bag.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

Yeah, but if you're telling me I can't.

SPEAKER_06 49:10

Quarterbacks don't decide that.

SPEAKER_02 49:11

$25 more million dollars in a state that also doesn't have state taxes, I would.

SPEAKER_06 49:15

But when is that gonna Yeah, but that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

Hopefully not.

SPEAKER_06 49:19

Because the Titans will just be like, all right, well, we'll just give you $65 million instead.

SPEAKER_02 49:23

Man.

SPEAKER_06 49:25

The problem is, is if Cam Cam shouldn't take that, he should be a real one like me, and be like, look, bro, I'm not good enough to take us to a Super Bowl at $70, $65 million a year, what it's gonna be at that point when it's time for him to get paid. So I should probably take $40 so we can spend $30 million somewhere else if I actually want to win. But it's gonna end up boiling down to what do you want?

SPEAKER_02 49:50

He's gonna want the bag.

SPEAKER_06 49:53

They'd rather have the bag than the ring.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

I feel him.

SPEAKER_06 49:55

That's why Tom Brady's the goat. And Pat Mahomes is the second goat.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

And Tom Brady still has the highest career earnings ever.

SPEAKER_05 50:03

He played 25 years. He played about 90% of my life.

SPEAKER_02 50:08

Yeah, Kirk Cousins, though, he has not played for 25 years.

SPEAKER_05 50:13

He has gotten it back.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

And he's the second. Shout out to Kirk. Buddy, I think that's all I got. You got anything?

SPEAKER_06 50:21

Yeah, man. Just looking forward to the draft.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:25

We'll be back for the draft. We'll be live and ready to get to it for the draft.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

We be looking be looking out on our Facebook page. We might be doing a Facebook live for the draft.

SPEAKER_06 50:37

Well, we might just be, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

We might release a pod too for the draft. But I kind of like the idea of going live on Facebook for the for the people.

SPEAKER_06 50:49

It's funny because I can't even get Raleigh to make a Facebook post.

SPEAKER_02 50:53

I've made a couple.

SPEAKER_06 50:54

He hasn't in weeks.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:57

He gave up on us.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

I didn't give up. The news has been dry. We were talking about Diana Rossini and Mike Vrabel fucking. For the story. Hey, how do you think she feels that AJ Brown's getting traded to the Pats and she was like the one who broke that story?

SPEAKER_06 51:13

Looks like looks like Mike Vrabel's fucking somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 51:17

She was the one who broke that story months ago.

SPEAKER_06 51:19

You aren't special, Diana. He said, I'll just find another reporter that's giving it up. I I will say real quick before we get up out of here. In hindsight, I feel bad for her.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_06 51:38

You know, being a whore shouldn't cost you your job. Oh, jeez.

SPEAKER_02 51:42

That was the highest.

SPEAKER_06 51:44

Her marriage? Maybe. Understandably. So also we were right on that. Turns out.

SPEAKER_04 51:49

He was the one who hired the private investigator. I see.

SPEAKER_06 51:53

Being a whore should not cost you your job unless you're being a whore for your boss. I don't think. I don't think she was fucking Clay Travis.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

She worked with Athletic.

SPEAKER_06 52:05

Oh, that's Out Kick.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:06

My bad. Sorry, Clay. Apologies. We're not big enough.

SPEAKER_04 52:13

Apologies to Outkake.

SPEAKER_05 52:14

Oh no, I take that back too because I'm coming from a place that has no platform.

SPEAKER_04 52:20

Not yet.

SPEAKER_02 52:22

Wait till 2030.

SPEAKER_06 52:24

Clay Travis is one we admire.

SPEAKER_02 52:28

I mean, he's alright.

SPEAKER_06 52:29

I mean, look, he started Out Kick and grew it to what it is. I want to do the same with Weird.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Yeah, I do respect that. I used to listen to Clay Travis and what was my boy.

SPEAKER_06 52:39

He used to come on a 1045 Design.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

Yeah, I used to listen to them a bunch. Him and PK.

SPEAKER_06 52:44

Wasn't a fan. I like Jonathan Hutton and Chad.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

Jonathan Hunt, yeah. Shout out to them. I think he works for Outkick too.

SPEAKER_06 52:52

Yeah, they do. They have a show. They no longer really talk about the Titans much.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

Man, not big Titans.

SPEAKER_06 52:57

They said, fuck your they said, fuck your actual fan base. We won't. We'll never do that, okay? We're gonna continuously talk about everybody, and we'll always show love to the Titans. And here's the thing just saying, I'm willing to just be a Titans only podcast if we just get love in the Titans community. Or, or I'll be a fucking podcaster for any Team's fan base that shows us love and puts us where we need to be.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Which is Super Bowl 2030.

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2030. We're not experts. It's coming live from Radio Row. We're sneaking it into existence.

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This was episode 17.

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We're going to name this one the foreshadowing.

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The foreshadowing. Maybe. It will foreshadow that into existence.

SPEAKER_06 53:47

As always, man, that's gonna call it for We're Not Experts episode 17.

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