WNE: Betting the House

Gambling takes, Supplemental Draft talk, two Jonathan Cooper crashouts, and plenty of NFL nonsense. Just another week at WNE.

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We're live in the cave. Episode 26. We're back.

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26 of them things, man. How does it feel?

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Electric.

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You still get the and like the uh, you know, like you still like you still feel just as good as game one.

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The answer's yes. No, it's a it's I want to do it every day.

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Hey, one day, brother. One day we'll be able to afford to do this shit every day.

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I want to do it every single day. Let's do it twice a day. That's the passion I have for this.

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One of these days we're gonna be like a we're gonna have like a TV network, but it's just gonna be instead of it's gonna be like MTV with ridiculousness, but instead it's just gonna be us.

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That'd be hard.

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Just a different podcast every all day, every day.

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If FanDuel can have a network, I think we can have a network. That's right. We're not trying to rob people. We're an Hot Experts Network.

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Oh who a whole bunch of just dumbass sports takes, wrong predictions.

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No, it's not even dumbass.

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A little parallax feature.

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Man, it just it no, it's a scroll on the bottom. Man. All the top picks of the day.

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Speaking of which, speaking of gambling, bro, your boy's been on a heater.

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Man, a heater.

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I smacked nine straight. I'm on nine straight.

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When you're on a run like that, does it feel like you're invincible?

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Uh it makes me honestly like scared to keep betting.

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Yeah, you should be on the body.

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Because I always feel like the next one's like a loss. Like it just feels like the next one's a loss.

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Oh, I feel like that's an that's that's bad energy. I feel like you're throwing bad energy in the in the next one.

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Well, I started feeling that way after about the fourth one in a row. I was like, you know, we should, you know, not be more aggressive.

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You were on fire at four. Think about what you are. I mean, you're a fire.

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It feels like everything I touch turns to green.

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Man.

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I just can't, as long as I don't show you the ticket.

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I uh the start of the World Cup, I hit two in a row.

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Shout out to us, bro.

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And I stopped betting after that.

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We cooked. We cooked. We had two absolute bangers.

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Is that the start of the run?

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No. No, I missed, I missed a couple after that. The start of the run was I I looked up Wednesday, and it was a tie game, France. I just took their money line live with a boost.

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That's a great, that's a great bet.

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And I haven't lost since.

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That's a great bet.

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Brother, we've endured some buzzer beaters. Well, the the the uh well, I wouldn't call it a buzzer beater. The New York Liberty came through for me yesterday on a game-winning shot, like eight seconds left. Man, the after blowing like a seven-point lead in the last minute of the game.

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The WMBA bets. I love the WMBA. The W.

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It feels like gambling on it's a lot easier than everything else. It is. Like it feels like it feels like I shouldn't be able to gamble on it almost.

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What like when you're gambling on WNBA, what are we looking for?

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Just good spread opportunities, money lines, couple, like just a little too much.

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We're not touching player props.

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Nah, we fuck with player props too.

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Well, you like Caitlin Clark 3-3s.

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Nah, bro. The Parallax loves taking her every day under eight and a half assists.

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I don't think I love that though.

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I don't. I don't love that. I mean, it it hits you know, roughly 50% of the time, just like Vegas intended it for it to be. It also loves Angel Reese over 11 and a half rebounds.

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Do we love that?

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We do love that. The only thing about it is it pisses me off because it seemed like she either gets six or like twenty-six.

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Oof.

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Like she either she either just absolutely kills it or doesn't get close.

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That means if she gets a lot of rebounds, she probably missed a lot of shots.

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We love a good me bound.

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Or six. I look, I watch zero WNBA, so therefore I bet zero dollars on the WMBA.

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Oh, it's very mildly entertaining.

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I can't.

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The problem is, is like if it wasn't for the World Cup, that's what I would be watching.

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Yeah.

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Because for some reason, we've got 30 MLB teams playing 162 games apiece, and MLB's not on every single day. Dude, 162 games is Well, these people are playing every single day, and you're telling me I can't turn my TV on and watch a baseball game.

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No, there's at least one on, right? Oh, I guess not. Fox is like the main carrier of baseball now.

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And they're also ESPN said, hey, we're good on Sunday night baseball.

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Hey. They looked at the Colin Cow herded it.

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Yeah.

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Hey, we're good.

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Hey, Sunday night baseball. We're good. Caitlin Clark's here. We don't need you anymore.

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Oh man. That is probably as bad of bad as a financial decision as the Nets or the Sixers' son and Ben Simmons. Man, that was what that was all about.

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Ben Simmons. He's a fisherman now. He's a champion. He's a champion fisherman. Yeah, didn't he go back to college? I know he is a fisherman now. On a college fishing team? Nah, I'm pretty sure he's a professional? Like, yeah.

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That's all.

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It's one of those pay-to-play kind of things. Hey, that's hard. You can do well in those pay-to-play kind of sports. Yeah. It's like, how do you be the best in this sport? You just gotta spend the most money.

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I can get behind that. He's got the money to spend.

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Man, I just can't picture myself enjoying fishing enough to do that professionally.

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It's very relaxing.

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Like I enjoy fishing.

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Like you could get me out there with a J, like get out there, smoke some weed, chill.

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I don't think one would be enough. I'm gonna be out there all day. I'm gonna need like 10.

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Yeah. No, that's fair.

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And then next thing you know, I'm so bored, I'm starting to smoke them back to back, and then I'm just fried and ready to go home.

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We uh I'm stuck on a boat. That's funny. We uh we have some news, a piece of news.

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Let's hear it.

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It's the the spin back.

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Bro.

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He went from So before we get into this, I'm ready to call it.

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I don't yeah it can't like the only thing at this point that's gonna beat that is murder. Like an NFL player has to try to murder somebody.

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I I didn't think that it was possible to beat what James Pierce did. But now he's like practicing. Like he like went and did his physical, like he's like he's probably gonna play. Like James Pierce Jr. Like he's probably gonna get suspended, but like he's back. Well they're they're treating it as if he didn't it didn't happen. Which is crazy.

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Well, I mean he you know he wasn't found guilty of a crime. He just gotta make it through his what is it, pretrial diversion?

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Yeah, d divert it.

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They're gonna divert it. We're like, hey, we're gonna divert this. Forget about the fact of what he did. This guy won the almost one defensive rookie of the year.

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Hey, James Pierce Jr., if you're listening, whatever you're paying your lawyer, double it. That man needs a raise.

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Yeah, that's nuts.

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He that's he probably also needs a referral to Jonathan Cooper. Oh my god. Yeah, we might have the new crash out of the year.

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Oh no, he's yeah, he's absolutely the crash out of the year.

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So, as you guys might remember on episode 25, we spoke about how Jonathan Cooper and his girlfriend both went to jail for some good DVs, some domestic violence. There was then uh what is it emergency protective order? Yeah, an EPP put on her, and we wake up one morning and he's got four new charges. He uh but he also apparently like uh harassed her by like repeated phone calls. Yeah. He uh look, I'm not I'm not trying to be hyperbolic here or anything, but I mean she she had a spell on, bruh. Man.

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The pussy had to be incredible, it had to be out of this world. A spell she's done some things that no woman on earth would ever do to him again for him to crash out again. He said, fuck it, I'm gonna get another DV.

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I want to know the person in his like who does he hang around? Like who put he obviously didn't tell anybody right? Like he obviously didn't tell anybody because if he would have told somebody, they'd have been like, hey, maybe you shouldn't do that. It's a bad idea.

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I'm nah, bro. I'm gonna just call her. It's all good.

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Yeah, but apparently it wasn't just one or two or three or it was like a bunch. I don't know how many exactly, but enough to get harassment. I don't know what that constitutes as.

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Like, I just can't see myself doing that as a normal person, much less a multi-million dollar athlete.

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Uh like, do you think I I don't know.

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Like I've gotta be an ego thing.

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Right. Like he's like, I'm Jonathan Cooper, the defensive end for the def for the Denver Broncos. Like, you're not gonna tell me he's got a god compact. Oh my god. What if he was like, you're not gonna tell me no, Jesus Christ. He's cooked.

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Yeah, I mean, you know, as if the one wasn't bad enough. Like, what do you do now after the aftermath?

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Can I take back my Denver Broncos playoffs?

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Nah, bro. Nah. You should have listened. I'll give you a chance. I'll give you a chance.

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I can't take that back. No, you can you can take it back. I'll get I'll give you this is your opportunity because this is like a huge loss. Yeah, this is a massive loss. I mean, he was a dog.

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Yeah, I mean, but I mean, do you think he's gone? Do you think it's over for him? Like, I mean, he hadn't been cut yet.

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No, he I don't think I don't know. I mean, if like some video came out of him beating the shit out of him.

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It just seems like as long as you're not like in jail for a long time, you have an NFL career. Like they were literally talking about like Henry Ruggs getting out of prison if he would have got out and been like, yeah, we would have we'll give him a tryout. That's crazy. It's like once you're in, you're in, you're in the brotherhood. We gotta give you a chance, unless you're Colin Kaepernick.

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He uh you wouldn't he didn't beat a woman.

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You would have thought he killed one.

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Man, it was just a knee on the field.

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Somebody was told to do. You see what happens, Colin Kaepernick, when you listen to the man.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, we get who he was. You know, you thought you were making a good idea. This man is still uh an employee of the United States government.

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Dude, I the whole Jonathan Cooper thing so odd to me because you spin back and you beat her ass again when you shouldn't be there at all.

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Is crazy. And the double D V is crazy.

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Yeah, the double DV is crazy. Like you didn't learn your lesson.

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There was no lesson. Is it bad that my first thought when I saw the headline that he had done it to somebody else? Like the other girl that he was cheating with, like neither of them knew.

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Yeah, did we bring out the last episode about how she went through his phone? Yeah, okay, yeah.

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And but when I saw the headline, I was like, oh, neither of these girls like knew about each other. So like he went to her thinking everything was gonna be good, and then they got into it and beat her. But he was not, and I was like, he did all that other shit, and I'm like, bro.

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Yeah, he's a classified to me as a weirdo.

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Yeah, not not somebody I'd want to be friends with.

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Yeah, he uh he's cooked. I don't think he gets cut unless video comes out. Like, I think that's like the ultimate.

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I just I mean I guess a guilty verdict on both sides both of them wouldn't be enough. Like like you've been convicted of doing it once, getting out and then doing it again.

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Should be, but I'm saying like if you remember, like if you remember correctly, when the whole Ray Rice thing happened, like they weren't like wasn't shit gonna happen until the video came out.

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Nah, he got suspended at first.

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Was it two games?

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And then the video came out, they're like, whoa.

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They're like, oh, he's done.

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I mean, I just feel like, you know, maybe I'm wrong, but I just feel like that is what every NFL domestic violence looks like.

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Yeah, dude.

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I mean, just naturally, bro, these motherfuckers are jacked. And it ain't like they out here with, you know, God, dude. I wish they're out here with some petite model looking chick that that you know can't do nothing. Listen, you blow on her, she's gonna fucking fly 10 feet away.

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NFL players, I promise you this. If you need an advisor of any kind, I will be your guy. I promise you I will never tell you to go and beat your girlfriend.

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Man, we won't allow you to.

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I uh I will go.

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You just call me and tell me you're going to do it, and I'll just call the cops beforehand.

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Yeah, right.

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Like he's gonna beat her ass if he gets there.

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Like, please don't.

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I need y'all there so he doesn't go to jail.

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Like I get a percentage. I need that. I get a percentage of his check, okay? Like, I don't need this check to go away.

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Man, this shit starts adding up. I also can't be known as the guy that represents these type of guys.

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It's bad for business. Yeah, I gotta drop him at this point.

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Oh, enough about the but enough about the DV, though, man. Cool news. The NCAA must or the and Brendan Sorby must have listened to the city. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said fuck going back to school, actually.

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Well.

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We're going to supplemental draft.

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I mean, is did he say fuck going back to college or was everybody like gonna burn down Texas Tech if he played?

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Hey, man, yeah.

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I mean, didn't Texas be like, yo, we'll play you?

SPEAKER_03 14:42

No, I think Texas said that they didn't want to play them, and then Texas Tech was like, we'll buy out the team that you're playing and our game to play you.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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Hey, flex your muscles. I uh Texas Tech's supposed to be nice as fuck again this year.

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They got way too much money. Brendan Soresby also has, I mean, to gamble 90k on on you know, table tennis.

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But showed the amount of bets that he had, it breaks out to roughly just a ten dollars a bit.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying he was betting a thousand dollars a bit. I'm just saying.

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Would have been cooler if it would have been the high roller.

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Yeah, like high roller backup QB.

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Yeah, yeah. No, it's the age of NIL, so he got some kind of bag. The hard.

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What if he look, he's gonna get sponsored by FanDuel. He's gonna be like their face athlete.

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If you're an NFL GM, so he's going to the supplemental draft, and the way that the supplemental draft works is a team gives up their 2027 pick of whatever they choose. Yeah. And if a team doesn't choose the, so if the Titans wanted Brandon Soresby, for example, and they were like, hey, we'll give a second up for that, and no one else gave up a second, the Titans would get Brandon Soresby. Is that correct? I believe so. I don't, I mean, if you're maybe if you're the Jets, I think the Steelers. The Dolphins, the Steelers.

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How do you feel? I wouldn't give up. Do you think he gets a chance?

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I wouldn't give up a first, though.

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I mean, I don't see a team giving up like a few. Especially not like this draft like a six or a seven.

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No, it's over. I've I've read reports as high as seconds.

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There's no way.

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I mean, he's a big thing.

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I feel like that's just such a big risk.

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Before all this shit happened, I mean, he was a fringe first-round quarterback prospect.

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But you got something that's weighing a little heavier on the game. It just feels like for me, it's just it's not that I think he hasn't learned from his mistake. I mean, you know.

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I don't.

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I don't think he does either.

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I don't think he learned, I don't think he learned from his mistake. No, I think he kind of got him out of this by paying for it. They went to a judge, bro. This is how crazy the NCAA is. They went to a judge to file an injunction. The injunction gets denied. They're like, fuck it. We'll find us another judge in Lubbock who we're gonna pay a check to to say yeah. So they do it, they file another injunction, go to the judge, judge approves it. How is that like where what what are we doing?

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Yeah, how do they even like who how do you even go from one accord like, all right, I'm gonna go from then not this city, but we're gonna move it to this city.

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It's the same thing with Trinidad Chamberless playing quarterback at Ole Miss.

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Yeah.

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It's just kind of.

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It's just like, bro, you're just trying to get the bag one more year before you go off into the real world because you know, Trinidad Chamberless ain't getting drafted.

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Dude, I kind of like Trinidad Chamberless.

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I mean, what's the case?

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I don't disagree with you.

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But I think with Brendan Soresby, I think it's hard to give up that kind of draft capital with like it's not necessarily the the gambling part. It's just like when you when the involvement of your own team, even if it's for betting, like even if you're betting for your team.

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Yeah.

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Like it's not it doesn't look good for like the integrity of the game bringing someone.

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And there's really only one person in the history of sports that gets away with it, like gets a pass. It's Pete Rose.

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Uh yeah, but I mean he was also betting for the gangster. Yeah.

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And he was great.

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Yeah, they weren't out here, you know.

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It's not like Brendan Soresby's great. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Like Brendan Soresby's not Peyton Manning in college. And I don't mean like Peyton Manning attention.

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I mean, Pete Rose got banned until after he died.

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I know. Some hater shit.

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Like they banned him. He didn't get away with it. But they didn't get a pass. Like, people just loved him because he was sick as fuck.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Yeah, no, I'm saying he gets a pass in my book. Fuck the other people's books.

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I mean, I like people that gamble. So he gets a pass. I respect it.

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Do you think Calvin Ridley reached out to the Titans and was like, hey, look, this is a guy.

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This is a somebody we should look into. I bet on that guy.

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He's like, I love Cam Warden though, but this is a betting man. I like someone that's gonna bet on us. He's like, he'll take 33% odds. He'll take 45% odds. Look, he's a gamble lean man.

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Hey, man, you think somebody that's betting the way that he was betting, bro? Like, he was definitely just betting on casual. What's the next colored car that's gonna drive by?

SPEAKER_01 19:43

I got five dollars on red. What'll really determine how I feel about Brendan Soresby is if I saw his win-loss rate.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Bro, what if he was like one of those guys?

SPEAKER_01 19:54

What if he was sick with it? Yeah. It kind of changes my opinion a little bit. You're like, hey, you chose you're choosing the wrong career. Yeah, maybe you need to be a professional better. I look, I get it. I just think that you know he getting caught first off is crazy. Like you you weren't gonna take any precautions. He like had a bookie. It's like he had a bookie. Shit, it was almost like he was the bookie. Right. Yeah, it's fair too. Oh my god, that'd be fantastic. My my my opinion would also change if he was the bookie.

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Bro, I look at him like, bro, nah, my man's just like him with the mafia.

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He's crunching numbers.

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He's like Adam Sandler.

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But like, Brendan, what do you do in your spare time? He's like, I math. He's like, I do a lot of complex math. He's like, he said, I just sit in my apartment and I I just think of odds all day long.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

No, I mean the odds could be there, bro. Like, some people, you know, we're not gonna say your name. I had a bookie. Yeah. I had a bookie, man. We used to go get those uh the football cars. Yeah, those were spreads.

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Yeah, fantastic.

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Shout out, shout out my guy.

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I uh I never hit him.

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I helped him. I helped him.

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Yeah. I man.

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I mean, I helped him as a customer in ATT after he got like done, bro. He got cooked. He was telling me about it. I was like, aren't you the I used to always get them from like someone who would get this? Yeah, right. I remember. And then I helped him at ATT one time. I was hooking up his internet at his house. And he was telling me, he was like somebody hit. Yes, nah, hit him for like crazy bread. Yeah, we're gonna be able to do it. Like hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oh my god. Like back to back. Oh my god. Yeah, he was like. He was like, I couldn't do it. I would have left running his folk because my man had bread. Now he's just in like his little like one-bedroom apartment. Living on. So I was like, bro, you should bring him back. He's like, I can't. He's like, I can never do that again after that.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Man, that's crazy. That's what got me in the sports bedding. Me too.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

You know, that was like the only option that we had was picking the spreads. So I used to really like try to get surgery.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

It was it spreads, though. I feel like it was moneyline.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

Nah, it was only spreads. Like the only options were picking who to cover the spreads.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

Oh man, that's what a great thing. We did that when I worked at Coors.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

You had to pick at least three.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

When I worked at Coors in Colorado, we would always pull our money together and do a card every week. It was pretty cool. I actually enjoy that quite a bit. I mean, yeah, it's just, you know. It's like old fashioned. You feel good.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Bro, if I lived in like like here's the thing. If I if I lived in Oak Grove, I would probably go place my bets at the Oak Grove Casino.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Why? It's just something about like Oh, doing it in person? Yeah. Yeah, being at the machine.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

Going and getting your money, picking your money up in person. Yeah. Like, fuck that. Send that money to my cash app. Like, I want to smack it. Cash. Yeah, I would have felt like the man walking in there with my $100 bet and smacking them for $10,000 and like, give me my money, and I'm walking out with these shits in stacks.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Me and uh me and the wife are going to the Ceno on Saturday. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:24

Can I tackle on?

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

Oh man, I've been on a fucking hater. I'm bringing the vibes to the Ceno. More the merrier. You know where I'm going. Where I'm the blackjack table.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

I don't know if we're gonna go to Evansville.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Oh we should. I'll drive.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Oof. That's enticing. We could just go to Metropolis. We can.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

And go to the pick up a package while we're down there.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

Go to the store.

SPEAKER_03 23:53

The health food store.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

The store.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

I'm down for whatever. I like gambling. So I'm gonna go gamble.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Yeah, dude. It's a lot of fun. The last couple times I've been to the blackjack table, though, brother, I have been just robbed. You know, you know, it's because you weren't there with your boy, dog. That that time we went for my bachelor trip, though. We had a good night.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

I kid you not. I think I can only remember two times I've gotten up to it from a blackjack table and lost money. Man. One was one night on our cruise and the other one was a long man. Probably like my first time at the casino.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

Yeah, buddy. If I went on a cruise and there's a casino. If I go on a cruise and it's there's a casino there, it's gonna be a real problem.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

Nah, you think that, but like you would only you don't want to spend your whole day at the casino. I don't know, dude.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

I I quite enjoy the casino.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

They will cry your ass.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Oh yeah, they're in there to get over.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Because you know, especially if you're on there with the drink package, you're just out there getting housed, like just making bad decisions. I look, I got on the cruise ship first night, didn't didn't even like I wasn't paying enough attention because I was just enjoying the cruise so much. Right. First night we walk in, win a couple hundred bucks off $15 minimum hands. You know, I'm not trying to go too crazy in this casino.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Right.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

Run up a couple bit. It's a you know, I didn't realize come back next night, do same thing again. Cool. Well, last night I didn't realize I sat down into like the auto shuffling table. Right. And I never paid attention to that because I I usually never do that. Like I like hand shuffle. Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

And buddy, they cooked me quick.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Oh, hey, here's a question. Is the is the casino on a cruise ship open 24-7?

SPEAKER_03 25:50

No, it's not. It's only open. I'm pr I think it's only open when you're at sea. At sea.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

Yeah, but I'm saying like like there's multiple, like there's days at sea, correct? Like it takes like a multiple days to get away.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

Like, I don't know if you can go like 24 hours type shit, but like the majority of the day, yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Like that's what that's like the type shit I would be willing to do.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

I was going, I think I was going out there to like two, three.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

They're like, where's where's Raleigh at?

SPEAKER_03 26:18

Bro, those cause bro those and the casino's big as fuck for real. Is it like considering it's on a boat, it's pretty fucking big. Yeah, and and look, it's big enough to where they have a smoking and non-smoking casino.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Hell yeah. And you always have action.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

It's big enough to where there's there'd be it'd be dumb, and there you can still get in and sit down and play.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

I love that. It's nice, bro. There's a couple different things.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

We were supposed to go on one this year, but next year we're absolutely going on.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

I mean, we could still go on one.

SPEAKER_03 26:48

I've got too many trips planned this year.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Too many trips. Damn.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Anyways, back to the sports side. Brendan Brendan Soresby took us down another path that we like to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

The gambling side of it. Man. Did you uh well before you move on, like you don't think I mean, I think someone's going to give him a chance.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

I don't think someone's gonna give up like a second or third round pick.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Like, I think it's gonna be a team giving up like a fifth, sixth, I think the better question is is if somebody does give up a second round pick, I think your main candidates would be like the Dolphins, the Steelers, the Jets. You know, there's probably another team out there.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

There's more teams out there for sure.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Like if they do give up a second, somebody's gonna believe in them. With the draft as good as it's supposed to be next year. I mean, you're talking like they're talking like this draft next year is an all-timer.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Well, if you're giving up a second round pick and you're on a team that's bad, you're still in position to get that, then like if the Cardinals believed in Brandon Soresby, like could you see him starting into the season? Yeah, I mean, if I believed in him and I gave up a second round pick, he'd start. Oh, I mean, your team fucking sucks. That's true. And you know, I mean, he's got a little chip on his shoulder. You gotta see what Carson Beck's got. I I feel like Carson Beck might end up temporarily pulling a Russell Wilson without the Super Bowl, but like I think I think he might come in and be alright.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

That's the Miami fan in you.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

Yeah, that is.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Yeah, I get it. I get it. It's only right.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

It's only right, bro. He sold me for a natty, so you gotta come to the league and kill. I mean, I don't claim him as a Miami guy. I mean, he's he came here as like a grad transfer. Bro, what? He took you to a natty. He's a fucking Miami guy. It's okay. He was with Georgia. He like his entire career until his last year was Georgia. It doesn't mean like when you think of Carson Beck, you're gonna think more of his time in Georgia than you can.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Yeah, he was a Miami hurricane.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

He drove at Lambo from Atlanta to Coral Gables at 130 miles an hour. Nah, he's he slowed down. He slowed down when he got that orange and green on.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

That man drove it a thousand miles an hour. He drove a spaceship there.

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Hey, uh, did you see this is actually from like yesterday, I think. Did you see uh Joe Burrow?

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Y'all my god, please tell me you're gonna say that he said that this team feels like the 2019 LSU?

SPEAKER_03 29:29

Yeah. Let me get your take on this first. Well, how did how does that make you feel?

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Yeah, like are they gonna play in the national championship? I don't like I don't like I think they can.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

Like, I get what he's trying to say, but my first thought when I heard that was like, damn, bro, like the 2019 LSU would have been they would have went 0-17 at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

I swear to God. I just I guess I guess they just had elite vibes, right? Like that team must have just had elite vibes. It was full of elite players.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

You know, so look, I think we both have already put the pressure on Joe Burrow this year to have a not just a good statistical year and be healthy, but we need to see some winning.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

Yeah, well, I mean, look, the it's they're not wrong, right? Because when he's healthy, they're normally pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

The last time we saw Joe Burrow healthy, he was missing the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I guess that's last year.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

No, I'm talking about the nah, he was hurt last year. Talking about the year when they gave up like a their defense and giving it away.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Oh, yeah, but I mean he threw for what 5,000 yards and 50 touchdowns. I mean he did his part. Yeah, facts. You're not gonna put Joe Burrow out here on defense. I mean, shit, it looked like it. I'm just saying, like, he did his part. I don't know. I it's a crazy statement. I it's not, I guess it's not really that crazy. It's just stupid to me than anything. I think it's a dumb thing to say.

SPEAKER_03 31:09

I mean, obviously that's something to say. I just feel like the thing is, is like, obviously, like in the locker room, I feel like every team this time of year feels like that. Like, you don't think the Cardinals aren't sitting over here saying, oh yeah, we suck.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Right. They just watched Marv have this crazy one-handed catch in practice.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

Like, oh yeah, he's what's my boy from the Cardinals when they asked about the Rams getting the getting Miles Garrett, and he said, I mean, they gotta deal with us.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Ha ha Mac Wilson Jr. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

You did say that stupid shit.

SPEAKER_02 31:39

But that's gonna be real easy to deal with.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Yeah, like that's dumb, but like that's not nearly as dumb as my boy saying, uh my boy saying that Michael Wilson's gonna be in the Puka Nakua role.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Who said that?

SPEAKER_01 31:53

The head coach. What's his name? LaFleur? What's his first name?

SPEAKER_02 31:57

I'm about to put Marv on the trade block. That's who we're putting in the Puka role, Michael Wilson, bro.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Yeah, you didn't know that?

SPEAKER_03 32:05

No, I didn't hear that.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Brother, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

Imagine Michael Wilson being a 12, 15, 17.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

First off, it's just not I don't know how realistic that is when you have Trey McBride. Yeah, it's like the Rams don't have a Trey McBride. And if they have a Devontae Adams, yeah, but if you had a Trey McBride, like he's gonna see a lot more targets.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

Facts.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

You know, like you tray, like, yeah, Trey McBride's just a tight end.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

He's that good that would so a comment like that would make me want to trade Trey McBride.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Yeah, but you don't act off impulse. Don't do that. Like, just because I don't know. Like, I I feel differently about this because like one, I think it's I feel like it's a stupid thing to say.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

I actually just hyping him up to the like saying shit like that is now he needs to be like, hey, I'm sitting out because like I need to be paid like what Puka's gonna be paid, because that's the role of it.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Yeah, well, that's true. Here's the real problem. One Michael Wilson isn't like he's good. I actually I do like Michael Wilson quite a bit.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

Yeah, he ain't no fucking Puka Dakota.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

No, he's not. He is he good? Like, could he be a top 24 receiver? Maybe. I think so.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

Like I think he's if Marv becomes what you would think that they would almost be trying to force themselves to do.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Yeah, I know. It is an odd thing, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 33:33

It's just like the fact that going into year three. I don't watch Marv, and I'm like, oh, like this guy's just not that good.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Yeah, the talent's definitely there.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

So it's like you you would almost think we would be praising him and saying we're gonna put him in that role this year.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Yeah, but what if he doesn't give you anything to do with the case?

SPEAKER_03 33:51

The new head coach could have came in and said, hey, look, part of the reason why the last regime failed is because they had a Ferrari sitting in a trap house and it didn't didn't even take it out of the driveway.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

You I mean you say that, but like I think you made a good point some weeks ago about Parker Washington, and I think I ended up disagreeing with you. The the further we've gone on, though, the way that they talk about Parker Washington and Jacksonville makes you think he's about to be the guy. It could very well be the same situation in Arizona with Michael Wilson. Like Parker Washington just might be good.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Same thing. And I know you like Parker Washington. I don't hate him either.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

I mean, this tape's pretty I don't hate Michael Wilson. I just have Marvin fantasy.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:42

So I don't I need I need Michael Wilson to real biased. I need a sac, I need a sacrifice. I need him to be a 700-yard receiver and Marv be the guy.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

Yeah. Well, look, you know, the we can put there's two things that we can put on dumb shit to say. One, the Bengals feel like 2019 national champion LSU football team. That's crazy. It doesn't really make sense.

SPEAKER_03 35:11

I mean, it would I can understand it. I mean, he did play with Jamar Chase on that team.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Yeah, right. That's fine. Congratulations. Like, it would be better to me if you felt like this was was it year two? Was it year two they went to the Super Bowl? Yeah. Yeah. Like it would be better if you were like, yeah, this feels like my year two.

SPEAKER_03 35:31

Right, because we're at least comparing it to an NFL team.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Right. Like, this feels like I don't know what year was that?

SPEAKER_03 35:37

21?

SPEAKER_01 35:38

Right. Like it would be better if you were like, yeah, it feels like the 21 Bengals, not the 2019 LSU. I don't even is Ed Orgeron, the head coach.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

Go Go Bengals. I mean, go tigers would fit in Cincinnati. Yeah. Go tigles.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Shit, Coach Obeck.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

And then another dumb thing, like, you know, on the list of dumb shit to say is Michael Wilson's gonna be the puka roll.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Yeah, it's fucking insane.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

I guess he's just gonna run. I guess if that if that means anything to me, it just means that he's gonna run a lot of over-the-middle routes. A lot of the same shit he was already doing last year.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

Yeah. Like I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

But if you go and look at his production, a lot of it was when Marv was out.

SPEAKER_03 36:26

Yeah. Like and when he was decoying with my fantasy season on the line. It didn't matter. In my starting lineup. Yeah. A man told me in our dynasty group chat that I that Derrick Henry's not gonna be able to and I quote, save me this year.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

I mean, I guess technically they could be right, but if you look at the man, it doesn't look as if there's a fall off.

SPEAKER_03 36:57

Well, I think my issue with it is the fact if you look at my roster and think that he's a save. What on save what?

SPEAKER_01 37:04

Right. Like he's just saying that because he went crazy. But like he could very well do that again.

SPEAKER_03 37:09

Like, I don't my point is I mean I expect him to do it, especially in the dynasty playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

Well, you can't not expect him to do it because he's been doing it for so long. Yeah, and like you like people have been expecting the drop-off. Yeah, right. Like the way he takes care of himself, like you like he people have been expecting the drop-off to happen since he was like 28.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

Yeah. He got that injury, and they were like, oh, he's cooked. And then they and then like I think the thing is is like before he left Tennessee, everybody's like, he's washed, he's washed, he's washed, and he was still eating on that terrible roster.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

They're like, he's just too old now. Yeah, he's I mean, he's Derek Handy. It worked. Good move on them. Oh, here you go. Here's something else. And I mean, we don't have to go much longer after this. Did you see the coach of the year odds were the released? No, I didn't. There's three names in there, and I think all three will be interesting to you.

SPEAKER_03 38:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

You got John Harbaugh.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Okay, that is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

Here's the one that I think you'll feel like is a surprise. All right. Jesse Mentor. Oh. With the second highest odds, I believe.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

I I mean that I feel like that's more of just like a I makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah. It makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 38:27

Like he'll get a bump. He'll get a bump just off the fact that they weren't a playoff team last year if they make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 38:33

That, and I mean, it's like they have a good roster. Yeah. Like the path to them going to a Super Bowl is there. Like, you can see it. So I mean, yeah, like it makes sense. And then third was Robert Sala.

SPEAKER_03 38:49

That is very interesting. I don't see the Titans winning enough games to for them to be coach of the year. Like, I feel like for him to be a serious coach of the year candidate, the Titans would at least have to be a playoff team. I think like I don't think them going from what pick or from what three three and fourteen to seven and ten is going to make him a coach of the year.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

Yeah, and that's what we're projecting. But I think it, you know, me personally, like it I it makes me feel somewhat validated for feeling that the the change is coming.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

Yeah. I d I certainly feel good. And I'm not sitting and I'm not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Because Vegas doesn't oh you know, like we know this, but the people listening might, Vegas doesn't miss a lot.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Facts. Like they do not miss a lot.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

This is weird. I'm looking because I I want to end the show on this, and you know, I don't think you can because you're not a fan duel guy, but I can now. Looking at some s early season, I'm gonna I'm ready to put my my preseason superlatives ticket in. Right. And the comeback player of the year is very interesting. Who is it? Who the give me the top three? Take a guess. Well, I'll just I'm gonna give you three and two. So number three is Kyler.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

Jaden's number two.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Daniels?

SPEAKER_03 40:13

Jaden Daniels, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

This is so funny. Third, or the fourth shortest odds is Aaron Donald.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 40:22

Pending comeback. I mean, I feel like I would take him. If they said he's signed, I'm I'm putting him on here. But the the shortest odds is Patrick Mahomes. I mean, I guess he didn't, he missed a game.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Yeah, and they weren't very good last year.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

Yeah, so I feel like you're just saying if the Chiefs are back and he's and he's they have a good year, he's gonna get it by default. And like I don't think that nothing that he did justifies a comeback. Like he played the entire season. He just wasn't great.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

That's a fair point. I don't even know if it's that he wasn't great. Like their offense just wasn't great.

SPEAKER_03 40:59

Yeah. Part of that's because of the man driving the ship.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

But I do have it also doesn't help, like, when you know your star wide receiver is either hurt or beating his girlfriend or speeding.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

That is true.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

You know.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

That is true. Or hurt.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

It doesn't help that your tight end's 40 years old dating a superstar and doesn't really give a fuck about football anymore. That is also true. Like it doesn't help when you don't have a running back.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Like you're running out. Their starting left tackle went AWOL out of the blue. Is he even back yet? I think he's back. I think he came back last year. But, anyways, here's my four, my four superlows that I'm going to pick because I'm not going to touch comeback player of the year. If you had two touch comeback players, I would probably take Jaden, but I would wouldn't feel good about that because I expect him to maybe get hurt again. I uh I got a sleeper. Okay. I guess it probably wouldn't quite qualify as a comeback. I was gonna say two if he starts, but I mean I don't know if they would give him like comeback player of the year for that. Right. But here's my ticket, man. We're going NFL MVP. We've already discussed this. Caleb. Caleb Williams plus 1500.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Right. We're already getting rich.

SPEAKER_03 42:22

We've got Defensive Rookie of the Year, Ruben Bain, plus 550. Alligator. Hey man. When he snatched his hat, I was in.

unknown 42:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:35

He didn't stop to take a pick, I was in. He was a little biased here. A little bias here. Part of this is because of the Jeremiah Love committee. I've got Carnell Tate, rookie of the year offensive.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

I don't think it's a bad bet. Plus 650. Is it what's the is Jeremiah Love number one? Jeremiah Love is number one. What is it like plus 450? Plus 430. Plus 430. Damn, I'm good. I don't think I would. They're obviously gonna feed him. Like you can't not feed him. You draft him, what, fifth overall?

SPEAKER_03 43:13

Right.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

You gotta feed him.

SPEAKER_03 43:15

Got to. I expect a big year from Cam.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

I think the only thing where I think the only thing I think the only thing that concerns you with Jeremia Love is like touchdowns.

SPEAKER_03 43:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Like he's he'll definitely be in between the 20s guy.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

And then I've got oh, there's one more I'm gonna put on here. I didn't put on here. Offensive player of the year. Another one of my guys, Mr. Robinson. Bijan, no Dijon. Really? I've got him in there. He's actually got the second highest odds. Who's first? Jameer? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Yeah, that makes sense. It's kind of crazy that Bijan's second. I don't expect that Falcons team to be very good.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

I f I feel like it might be better than what you think.

SPEAKER_01 43:58

Do you think Tua Tua makes that big of a difference.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

I mean, I feel like, bro, I just feel I feel like part of Tua's decline other than the concussions is just like the exhaustion from that culture, that team, like the like, I mean, part of me feels this way because I mean, like, you ever listen to like his post-game interviews last year? Like, he was in there talking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

Yeah. I uh the crazy thing is it's not like could help him. Like you can't sit over here and be like Mike McDaniel lost the locker room, though.

SPEAKER_03 44:31

No, they didn't, but I feel like there's a I feel like there's a lot that goes into that.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

It just got stale. Yeah. I think it maybe just got stale.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

And he's going in there and he's got a good mind in Stefansky.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

Right.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

You got Drake London, you got Bijan, you got Kyle Pitts coming off of a big year.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

We don't love Kyle Pitts.

SPEAKER_03 44:50

And then I'm gonna put my I'm gonna put my last leg on here. You're gonna like this. Defensive player of the year. Will Anderson Jr.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Yeah, I think buddy, he is a dog. I know that what I said earlier in the year would be considered blasphemy. But I I think I believe it. You think he's the best player, defensive player in the league? Like maybe not now. But in a year, maybe two. Like I I think he's gonna be the best defensive player in the league.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

You did. So if so I'm gonna put my stakes on him. And if he doesn't get it, I'm going to just remember a wise man once told me, based off of what you said, you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Well, look, you can't. I mean, it's not like I can it's not like you can get any money back from me.

SPEAKER_03 45:50

I'm not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

Yeah, I'm just early. Just early. I'm just early, brother. I'm never wrong. Just early. Especially with draft picks.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

Do you want to hear what this five-legged?

SPEAKER_01 46:02

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

Alright. $10 pays out $696,000.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

Let's put let's put $100 on it.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

You want to go for $6.9 million? Like, let's change our lives. My max wager is $14.36. Because the most you can win is a million.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Yeah. That's foul. First off. Fuck you, family.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

I mean, I'm honestly just content with a dollar for 69k.

unknown 46:34

Like I'd be thinking.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

I feel like I don't need to waste a whole $10.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

Who says it's a waste? Like Carnell Tate could like I think you're Who don't you like? Your your sketchiest pick to me is definitely Ruben Bain. I uh Caleb Downs has to be pretty high on that list for rookie defensive player of the year.

SPEAKER_03 47:01

He is he actually is fifth.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

See, I think that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

Ruben Bain has the second highest defensive rookie of the year odds.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Who's first?

SPEAKER_03 47:11

David Bailey.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

Oof. Yeah, I wouldn't touch David Bailey.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

I like Ruben Bain.

SPEAKER_01 47:17

I but see the thing is is like my favorite edge rusher out of that class was definitely David Bailey.

SPEAKER_03 47:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

I I don't know. I would probably take Caleb Downs. Plus 850. I think that I the reason. I just think that the reason behind it is that like they're gonna be a good football. Like his impact could just mean more. Like there's a chance that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers aren't great. I think they will be good. I'm just saying that there's a chance that they're not.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

We know what the Jets are. They're Super Bowl champions, according to you. No. And if that's the case, David Bailey probably wins.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

I think the thing that works out in some players like David Bailey and Ruben Bain, especially when you say that you think Tampa's not going to be good. I didn't know I'm not saying that. That means that they're going to be trailing, which means, oh wait, no, that's backwards. I lied.

SPEAKER_01 48:12

Yeah, like he wouldn't have as many opportunities.

SPEAKER_03 48:13

You would need them to be winning. Right.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Which I mean, they also have the opportunity to do that too. I just don't like nothing about that division excites me except the Saints.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

I mean, I just feel like Ruben Bain, if he comes in, he gets a 12 10, 10 to 12 sacks.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Yeah, he's yeah, 100%. Which is, I mean, look, you got Vita Vey in the middle.

SPEAKER_03 48:34

I just feel like, I mean, part of it is if just looking at the college tape, if if you didn't know Ruben Arms, like Ruben Bain's arms were short, he should be the number one overall pick by a mile.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

I uh well, the thing that he also has on his side that makes it not a bad bet is the fact that he's got Vita Vea in the middle. I mean, that guy, he's drawing two every time.

SPEAKER_03 49:01

Yeah, but Vitavea is holding out currently for a new deal.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

Yeah, he wants to get paid. He will get paid. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

He's a dog, he's a very large human being.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

I I don't think that you have to worry about that. I, you know, with with Ruben Bain being able to just go one-on-one most of the time, probably. Man, it's gonna give him a better opportunity. If David Bailey's sick, he's gonna get chipped and doubled.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

Yeah, because they don't have a lot over there.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Right.

SPEAKER_03 49:29

They got a future Hall of Famer Tavondre Sweat.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

Yeah, as long as he gets under 250, brother. 350. 350. 350.

SPEAKER_03 49:36

It doesn't seem like he's going to.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

He's worked as well.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

I think also part of it too, and the Reuben Bain side that makes me feel good about it is he's also going to Todd Bowles, who is a defensive head coach.

SPEAKER_01 49:47

Yeah, a great defensive head coach.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

So that makes you feel better on that too. So like that's that's kind of my logic right there.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Well, brother, lock it in. Let's get rich.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

$10 for $696.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Might as well put the other $4 on there.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

$14.34?

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Yeah, why would you not want a mill? Hold on. He definitely wants a mill. Because it's not like $600K's night. Life is. Lock it in.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

What is about eight months from now? Nine, seven months from now.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

Seven, eight months from now, guys. This podcast is gonna be the biggest thing because we're gonna be in the play-for-pays, pay for play world.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

Your life could completely change. Buddy, I'm in. Your life could completely change. I'm gonna go put it in.

SPEAKER_03 50:41

I don't know if you can parlay them on DraftKings.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

It's okay. I have a fanDuel account too.

SPEAKER_03 50:45

Are you gonna put $14 and 34 cents on 36 cents on it like I did?

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Yeah, well, I'll put a $20 bill in the in the DraftKings and then I'll bet the $14.35.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Double it up.

SPEAKER_01 50:59

I actually won't have to bet as much because I might take Caleb Downs as my rookie defensive player of the year. Yeah. That way it gives us just better odds of us one of us getting rich.

SPEAKER_03 51:08

Fuck, dude, this is a ticket.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

Bro, if this motherfucker hits, bro.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

That's a good way to end it. That's a good way to end it right there.

SPEAKER_03 51:21

Gave y'all a great ticket. If you heard this, I'm gonna repeat it one more time. MVP, Caleb Williams. Offensive player of the year is B. John Robinson. Defense is Will Anderson. Rookies of the year, we're going Carnell Tate and Ruben Bain Jr. $14.36 to become a millionaire.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

Man, that's uh that's a great way. That's a great way to end it.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

If you if if you're not gonna bet it with me, at least send me some positive vibes. Fade it. Because brother, I promise you, if I hit a million dollars, I'm walking into work the next day, I'm shitting on a table. I'm gonna walk in, I'm gonna say, fuck every last one of y'all.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

You would do that for a meal?

SPEAKER_03 52:09

For a bro, for a million dollars? I would do it.

SPEAKER_01 52:13

I'd do it for a thousand.

SPEAKER_03 52:15

I can't do it for that much because you know. I mean, shit, I'd probably do it for a hundred K for real. I'd do it for it'd be enough to get me out of my job where I can, you know, at least find a job I like.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

Yeah, it buys you like a year.

SPEAKER_03 52:27

Yeah, it buys me a year, and then it also gives me time to find a job that I like.

SPEAKER_01 52:33

Right. You can be frugal. Yeah, be super frugal about it.

SPEAKER_03 52:37

I'd probably put I'd probably put like five to ten of it in.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

Go invest in the SP 500.

SPEAKER_03 52:43

Live live off of the $8,000 I would get on average.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

Yeah. Well, man, that's all I got. You got anything? Nah, man. Just episode 26.

SPEAKER_03 52:56

Shout out to y'all for the support. Man, like, share, tell a friend.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

Yeah, that's it for the cave.

SPEAKER_03 53:03

As look, we just want to quit our jobs.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Yeah. You guys can help us do that. We're uh we're we're getting closer to football season. I think, you know. We're getting closer to having camera. Oh, gee, we are. We just gotta get rid, no. And cameras are expensive though.

SPEAKER_03 53:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

I had no idea until I looked it up the other day. I said, God damn.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

Yeah. We we thought we thought we were gonna come out a lot cheaper than what we were going to.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

It turns out I was like, shit, we're gonna have to spend some money. Yeah, hey, look, in time. Yeah, brother, in time. But then we'll see y'all on the next one. Yeah, episode twenty seven coming soon. Soon.