Yeeted Rivalry
Two loons from the Heated Rivalry Fandom, join us for yapping about queerness, music, and micro-moments that scratch your brain.
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Yeeted Rivalry
Got a Wet Leg? Sounds like a montage problem.
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Welcome back, Yeeters!
We are officially onto EPISODE TWO of Heated Rivalry. Kicking it off with the Wet Leg montage. Let's watch these idiots pretend not to like each other for two whole years and yap about it.
Fic Recs:
Liz -
The MILF Theory (And Why the Internet Got It Wrong) by pucksandpower
https://archiveofourown.org/works/76676306
Nat -
The Shopping List by wonderlessinviolet
https://archiveofourown.org/works/80813431
Hello everyone. Welcome back. You have found us again. We are yeeted rivalry. Natalie is here and Liz is here. Say hi to Niza. Hello, everyone. Hi. How are you? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. We are so excited to be here.
SPEAKER_04Good evening, if you're listening to this in the evening.
SPEAKER_02For us, it is Sunday, March 8th. So we are going to say happy birthday to Kit Connor, who plays Nick Nelson and Heartstopper, if you do not know.
SPEAKER_04And I have worn my true rugby shirt in honor of Kit Connor's birthday.
unknownNice.
SPEAKER_04Bless his bisexual representation heart.
SPEAKER_02Poor baby, you shouldn't have had to do that, but no kidding.
SPEAKER_04Ugh. Stop demanding things of people. No shit. We'll get to that one later. We will definitely be covering that. Don't start. Especially children. Okay. Thank you. Good night. Also, we have bracket, what did you call it before? Bracket. Bracket chat. I don't know. I don't know. You called it something cute. And I thought it was a good one. But for those of you who are invested in the bracket that we're doing for the vocal stems, we are making good progress. We are into the semifinals, the sweet 16, if you will. So keep your votes coming. And I and by all means keep, I understand that it's a struggle. I mean, yes, there have been some upsets. There have been some wicked upsets. Sorry, had to go full boston on that one. But you know, keep voting. And when the championship around comes, we will be releasing bracket two. So hopefully some other favorites have shown up in bracket two. And then we will have the ultimate contest between the two winners. So stick around. Yeah, maybe we can do this every March. Ooh. Any repeat winners. I love that. Yeah. Are you still are you still going to be talking to me next March? I hope so. I hope you're still talking to me next March. Aw, that was romantical.
SPEAKER_01Oh, puppy. Puppy, I love you so much. Love me. I just want, I just want to be loved.
SPEAKER_04All right. You goober. What was your most recent reheat?
SPEAKER_02Oh my most recent reheat is I watched the entire show with my mother-in-law.
SPEAKER_04The play by play. If anyone missed Natalie's updates of her mother-in-law's reaction.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it wasn't a full play play-by-play, but it was but still.
SPEAKER_04There was some there were some absolute gems in there of her reactions.
SPEAKER_02She was great.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Also, I need someone to shout out to me because my mother-in-law could never I oh I loved it.
SPEAKER_02We watched the first three episodes uh the night before, and then in the morning she was just like, whenever you're ready to watch the other, oh my god, that's so cute. And I was like, Why is that a right now?
SPEAKER_04Right now. Now works for me. Let's do this thing.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, that's so sweet. So it was uh it was really lovely. I think my favorite part was uh um, I don't think I posted about this, but it was when uh David finds them in episode six. Spoiler alert. Don't want to ruin the show for anyone. But it happened and she was like, I thought you said I thought you said something like this wasn't gonna happen. And I just didn't say anything. Right, right. It's just like just there's like 10 minutes left in the episode. Yeah, just you're fine, it's gonna work it's gonna be fine. I do I think the only thing I said was it's romance. Remember, you're fine. You read it, you know it.
SPEAKER_04Happily ever after.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this is you're you're gonna be taken care of by my mother-in-law. Really quick before we get to your reheat.
SPEAKER_04No, go.
SPEAKER_02Oh, all the books.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god. And I learned just before we started recording this that Natalie has read Heated Rivalry and the Long Game. She hasn't read the other books. And when I tell you the other ones are so good, I'm so excited.
SPEAKER_02I know that um Irina was like always like live posting when she was reading like role model and stuff. So I'm very excited to uh to do that and be able to post about that.
SPEAKER_04Be very careful when you say Irina's name. You know how she gets.
unknownIrina. Good morning. How are you doing? Good morning, Irina.
SPEAKER_04Oh well. I hope you're not cooking anything right now.
SPEAKER_02I think she is. I hope she's learned by now not to cook while she's listening to us.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, just don't. Um, but I would like to know spoiler-free from anybody if you feel like Nat needs to be prepared for anything. I will say that mine of of the remaining ones that you have, I'm quite partial to role model because Harris. And I can't I can't wait for you to meet Harris and then all of a sudden stop calling me Boston Lizzie, and then you're just gonna call me Harris for like the rest of days.
SPEAKER_02Nope. Not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_04No, is is there a bug? Natalie is searching for something. Is something flying around?
SPEAKER_02No, there was there was like a like a sound, but I guess it's gone now.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I'm fine. All right, all right, and she's back. So my most recent reheat is this morning I had to rewatch the montage that we are going to cover because in the shower I was like, wait a minute, and something occurred to me, which we'll get to. So I did right before this. I have to rewatch the montage and see if I was on to something. I think I might be. Stay tuned. I know, suspense is building. I like that. Just for you, baby. Just for you.
SPEAKER_01I like it. That's okay.
SPEAKER_04All right, what do we got next? Are we ready to dive in? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Let's go. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_04All right, baby. So the song choice. I mean Do we need a moment for the song choice?
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Oh because how many times have I played this song? How tired are my children of this song? I don't care. Nope.
SPEAKER_02It really I love it too because I I knew of wet leg, uh, but I wasn't really like I had never really listened much to them. But my friend, that is the reason why I even watched the show at all. Shout out to you, Ariel. Nice to see you. Thank you. Um, she loves wet leg. She's a fucking huge fan of them. So when we were live texting while I was watching it, that started, and I was like, Oh my god, it's your favorite band. So I got I like got so excited for her that it was like her favorite song. And then I after listening to the song, I was just like, Oh, okay, this song is like absolutely excellent. Yeah, oh my god. And now it's like one of my main like rotations for the song.
SPEAKER_04So it's getting like kind of anthem level notoriety. Yep, I feel like it comes on, like you know, they're a handful. I feel like at this point, any song comes on from the soundtrack and people are like, oh my god. But this one in particular, this one and I feel like my moon, my man are very like you just immediately get the visuals.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, and the montages just, you know, they they're so close to everybody's heart, I feel like, because it's you know, we're we're cutting through a whole bunch of time.
SPEAKER_04So I do love, I feel like the expert level time jump and covering a bunch of this time is there is a visual, and I need somebody to tell me who had it. I will try to look for it on threads, but someone did like an infographic of the time jumps and the scenes, and it was beautiful. I mean, aside from being very informative, as it should be, it was just lovely, like a nice like flow chart. And for those of us who are visual learners, it was very helpful. And I imagine that they would have to do that in production or something to map out what things were being covered. So the first, so all the calling cards of this, by the way, is it fucking called a calling card? Or am I just making that up?
unknownI don't know.
SPEAKER_02I feel like if you know, please tell us.
SPEAKER_04Please tell me because I don't I'm making things up. Um, so they're all centered. This is one of my very important critical things I'm keeping track of. So they're all centered and it varies. Some of them are on black background, some of them have the actual scene. This first one is this first one, Montreal.
SPEAKER_02Um running around the corner, fully like full-on, long sleeves, hizzle socks. Yeah, not wearing any fucking Reeboks. What are they?
SPEAKER_04No, dude.
SPEAKER_02Like new balances.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I feel like he's wearing a hoodie.
SPEAKER_02Hoodie full on, long shorts. They're like baggy shorts.
SPEAKER_04But my favorite the headphones. The like over it just the security of the like being outside, noise canceling, the and it's I don't think you ever see him other than the gym scene from the first episode. Right. You don't really see him with earbuds, which is I feel like it look can be a sensory thing for some people because having things in your ears like a weird thing. But I just love that Pookie Bear is out for a run. Maybe it's just a warm-up, but he's got these like honking.
SPEAKER_02They're not that big.
SPEAKER_04They're big for running. I am sorry. I'm not a runner.
SPEAKER_02For running, I guess, but you have to also think about what the time of the time it was. Like, sure, wasn't it around the time when like the like beats by Dre headphones were coming out? And like that thing was like where you were like you had you got like the cool over-ear headphones, and it was like the thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I feel like I feel like it was the equivalent of like carrying around a boom box back in the day. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's like I always try to remember that when I see something, and I'm just like, what the okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04It was it was 2011. Yeah, so we will accept it. But the the juxtaposition of him and his his headphones, and then you see Ilya running in front of the building that has now become well.
SPEAKER_02First, you see him run through the trees, which I think is is cute because it's like he's between two trees and then runs out, and he just looks so cute. He's like, mmm, mm-hmm. I think it's funny because he likes his little pinkies out when he's running.
SPEAKER_04It helps him balance. The pinkies are very important for balance.
SPEAKER_02I think it to me, it shows how unserious he is about all of it.
SPEAKER_04Completely.
SPEAKER_02He's doing it, but he's not, he's yeah, he's yeah, very in.
SPEAKER_04And like, what is like Shane is again, I will go back to he's listening to his affirmations, or he's, you know, Lord only knows he's not an EDM type. He's not what did they say in the book? Rachel said in the book, they either listen to um actually this is in role model. I think Harris mentions it. She talks about Harris interviewing other hockey players, and when they're asked what music they listen to to hype themselves up for games, it was either EDM rap or Mumford and Sons.
SPEAKER_02What are the fucking odds that Connor was on as an hour?
SPEAKER_04That was Mumford and Sons. Babe, you think they need a promise? Babe, that was the first thing I thought of was I was like, is Rachel a prophet? Does she or did they do it on purpose? Right. I know is somebody there on staff deep in the game changers world. We need to know who you are. Tell us. Reveal yourself. Yes, reveal yourself now. Uh so yes, so his unseriousness. But Ilya, what I mean, he's he's listening to like whatever the fuck he wants. He could be listening to an audiobook, but he, yeah, like you said, he's just out there like having a good time. He's like, Well, I have to go for an X mile run before I can do my other workout.
SPEAKER_02So here we go. And I feel like it also is similar to what you said in the first when we were talking about the first episode when he ends up in the gym. I think a lot of it also has to do with getting away from his fucking dad and his family. 100%.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, it's it's an escape.
SPEAKER_02He doesn't care, but he's gotta do it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and he can finally be free. So it's like you see that in his run, and a lot of people talk online about how cute his run is and like the little jump over the puddle of We're not there yet. We're not oh, baby, baby. I know we're not don't I listen. The threats, did everyone see that? Did anyone no?
SPEAKER_02It was so fast.
SPEAKER_04No, she's very speedy. So also I like the comparison between just what they're wearing, you know, Shane being a little bit more buttoned up in Ilya. His outfit rarely changes. Sometimes he has a hat on. That's really the extent of it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the sleeveless, always the sleeveless, always the sleeveless.
SPEAKER_04No complaints. No complaints whatsoever on the sleeveless. Yep. We get our first text exchange. Yep. Boing boing. So are you still mad about Vegas? And these little two, these two little idiots just grinning at their phones.
SPEAKER_02I love that it shows Shane like slow down and look at his phone, and then it cuts to Ilya, who has stopped. Stopped. Full stop. Yes. He was like, you know what? I'm gonna text.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02This this baby.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely. So here is my discovery of why I had to go back and watch this is the color of the text bubbles. Now everyone, stay with me. This is my disclaimer.
SPEAKER_02The color of their their like names, like the respective. Okay.
SPEAKER_04My disclaimer is could I be wrong? Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Shut I can fucking spit it.
SPEAKER_04Do I give a fuck? I do not. Spit it out. So Ilya's text bubble is or rather Lily's text bubble is pink.
unknownPink.
SPEAKER_04Jane. Ladies and gentlemen, the hair splitter. And Shane or Jane's text bubble is green. I have decided that those are related to the color of the bi flag and the gay pride flag. This is true. Right? But they needed to contrast enough to make sense visually. Oh, we did forget. Don't interrupt my don't interrupt my breakthrough with your can of sorry, go, go. It's okay, fine. It's fine. So I think visually they needed the high contrast of two different colors. But the reason that Ilya was given the pink is the bi flag, and the reason that Shane was given the green is for the gay pride flag. I agree. Okay, well that was easy. Yeah. I was expecting. I don't know what I was expecting.
SPEAKER_02I mean, my only argument would be that it doesn't look green to me. It looks blue.
SPEAKER_04But well, but the to be fair, the gay pride flag is a series of like blues and greens.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what I was saying. It would it would work, it would work either way. So that's why that's why I wasn't gonna I I was not going to split hairs. I wasn't as you say. It is too late. Yeah. You have splitteth the hair. All right, grab your can, open it. We fucked it.
SPEAKER_04Fine. All right. We fucked it. Sorry, everyone. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02We got too we got too comfortable. We got too confident.
SPEAKER_04We did. We did, and we forgot. That sounded really loud to me.
SPEAKER_02I didn't hear it at all. I don't think anybody ever hears it.
SPEAKER_04Me either, but the with the symbolism is important. So that's my theory on the text bubbles. And the suspension of the difference in time is just kind of accepted by the audience. Yeah. Like they wouldn't be out for a run in daylight at the same exact time getting these texts, but we're asked as the audience to just kind of suspend that understanding of time.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it it's it could work still. How? Well, if you think about it, it's only like six hours, six or seven hours ahead.
SPEAKER_04So if Montreal to Moscow? I mean real time research.
SPEAKER_02What time is it in Moscow?
SPEAKER_04Oh, nice.
SPEAKER_02Right now it's six p.m. in Moscow. Okay. So like Ilya could be out for his evening run while Shane is out for his morning run and they're valid.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Dirty, you dirty bird. I didn't even mean nude. I like it.
SPEAKER_04I like it a lot. So okay. So I I stand corrected. It could be conceivably it is. I don't know why in my head I thought it would be a much bigger time difference.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Because sometimes I mean depending on what time it is, it is. Right. Right, exactly. But it's not, it couldn't be. But there's that like sweet spot.
SPEAKER_04Oh, we know about sweet spots, babe.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's like with Will and with Alexandra, like Will's in California. So Will's like Will's like staying up late and then about to go to bed, and they're like getting up and starting their day. Right. So they can have a conversation, but they're living different days.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Which is great.
SPEAKER_02That's wild.
SPEAKER_04So side story. Side story. I used to travel for a job. And back in, oh, actually it was 2011, which is where we are in the heated rivalry universe. I missed the entire June 8th. I did not experience because of time differences in the flights that I was on. Just lost the whole day. I lost an entire day. And once I figured that out, I was like, what does it all mean? I couldn't. It was the most I was like, this is my precious. But it's it, I'm telling you, it's, and it also brings me back to my other fandom. I wouldn't even call it fandom necessarily because I didn't participate, but in the West Wing, there's a really great episode. The West Wing. I know, I'm sorry, you're welcome. But people who watch the West Wing will understand. They're all trying to figure out where the president is and what time it is. And CJ, one of the characters, just goes, guys, there are clocks on the wall. And anytime I try to figure out a time change, I'm like, yeah, like you can just you can just look it up, honey. Honey, you're fine. Just believe it.
SPEAKER_02I don't even have to type anything. I'd just be like, ah.
SPEAKER_04Oh. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So anyway.
SPEAKER_04Um, the text bubbles, Ilias.
SPEAKER_02So mad about Vegas, and then not mad about anything, and the cute little head shake and smile when I love.
SPEAKER_04I took a screenshot for you, and I'm gonna ask you to put it in the video of the pod because the little smiles that they give each other are precious. Also, do we really think that Shane's not mad?
SPEAKER_02I don't think he's I don't think he's mad.
SPEAKER_04You don't think that okay?
SPEAKER_02No, I don't think he's mad. I think I think that this is the first time that he is feeling that conflicted feeling of jealousy but also pride.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Say more.
SPEAKER_02Well, like the way that he feels when he watches Ilya win the cup. I think that this is like the beginning of that. I think that I think that watching Ilya win the cup is when he's finally able to start identifying those feelings. Right. But I don't think that I don't think that he's mad that he lost. I think he's I think he's because he's competitive, I think he's like, fuck you, like it should have been me.
SPEAKER_04It should have been me, bad. Well, no, but but I think the reason Ilya's asking is that he he's suspecting that Shane is mad that he kissed him, where somebody could see. Oh that was my interpretation of it. Oh like I thought you were talking about like him losing him when oh no.
SPEAKER_02Him being mad at Ilya, thinking that Ilya like was jealous or like mad that he won or something. I follow. I follow. Okay. Yeah, but no, I think I think what you're saying makes more sense.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02But I is and that's why he walked away.
SPEAKER_04Right. And in my head, I'm thinking, okay, it's like drunk Shane in the moment, definitely mad and had some like heightened emotional responses to it. But then maybe after the fact was like, thank fuck he kissed me. Because damn, that's all I got going for me right now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, dude, that that makes so much more sense. I'm such an idiot.
SPEAKER_04Um no, no, you're not, you're beautiful.
SPEAKER_02You're perfect, but that makes so much more sense though that he would like respond that way and why Ilya would like smile and and like shake his head. So he's just like, okay, we're good. Right, we're good.
SPEAKER_04So screenshots of the smiles forthcoming. So next we get fall 2011 and the hockey shot. I do have to mention briefly that, and I know it's been pointed out multiple times that the crowd shot because it's CGI. It is kind of fun to like pause it and find people repeated. Oh, yeah. I get such a kick out of it. Um, but I found in one screenshot I found the Same person, like three different times, but they're in like slightly different, like clapping, cheering poses. And I thoroughly enjoy it. Uh, the opposing team. Uh, so Shane makes the shot, and on the opposing team, you see you see a defender who was barely trying to say barely.
SPEAKER_02If you actually start paying attention to the hockey, then we start getting into some trouble.
SPEAKER_04But it's yeah, don't it's don't look too close. It's okay.
SPEAKER_02We love you guys. You did the best you could. We love it. We love everything about it.
SPEAKER_04But he does after Shane makes the shot, the guy just like half asleep, he just goes, Fuck. Stop. I want to see that. So great. And he's like barely exerting any effort, and he's like, What a bummer. Like, I can't believe he made that shot. I'm like, dude, you were not even like trying. It was that was such an easy shot. And I say that as somebody who can't even ice skate. Um, then you you get a shot of them sitting on their respective benches, and Shane looks over at Ilya.
SPEAKER_02And he ain't looking at him.
SPEAKER_04And he ain't looking, which I would have I would have guessed that it would be the reverse. So it's interesting, it's like after Shane scores, it's almost like he wants to like check in.
SPEAKER_02Right? Like he wants a little like validation of like well, it's also um uh I learned this um more specifically from reading Amber Rose's um intimacy coordination breakdowns, but the the eye contact is you know a way of of communicating where they're both at. And that's always at this up to this point, that has been the way that they've started conversations is through eye contact.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02And so for me, I feel like the fact that Ilya is not looking at him right now is him kind of trying to be like, you walked away, so I'm not gonna look at you right now. Like, you know, you made your choice, and we're texting and whatever, yeah. But you know, I'm he I think he to me, I feel like it's very like he looked at him when they were on the ice. Oh, yeah, but not trapped in it. Yeah, yeah. So he like he wants he wants to feel Shane looking at him, but he's not gonna give, he's not gonna give it back to him right now.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. Which is why I found it weird. I felt like it was like flip-flopped. Like I almost felt like as seriously as Shane takes hockey that he would try to stay in the moment, much like that initial face-off they had where Shane is like super focused on the work that he's doing and Ilya just can't stop looking at him. I just I would have assumed it would be reversed.
SPEAKER_02Well, I for something that shows that Shane just can't, he can't help himself.
SPEAKER_04I mean, who can blame him, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Honestly, who can blame him? Um, I forgot to mention during our first kind of text exchange at the beginning of the montage. Ilya is an emoji user. He's an emoji user. Shane. I know. Shane is not, Shane is not an emoji user because there is two. He has. Has he? Yeah. How many?
SPEAKER_02Uh I mean I know at least one that I can think of right now in episode five.
SPEAKER_04Well, later. That's but I mean, like up until this point, oh he like the comfort level of knowing somebody well enough to know kind of their interpretation of what their emoji is. But I just imagine him getting like the little kissy face with the heart from Ilya and being like, what does that mean? Was that a proposal? Where where does that kiss land? Seriously, like it's the interpretation that you need sometimes. Because how many times have you used an emoji and people are like, mmm, what? Not I mean, not very often. Seriously.
SPEAKER_02I guess I guess you need to work on your emojis.
SPEAKER_04My emoji game sucks. I have other strengths. It is not in the land of the emoji, but let this be a lesson to everyone. We need to pay attention to when Shane feels free enough to start using emojis.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So we cut to the locker room after the game, and we get another text coming in from Lily. What's a girl to do on a lonely night in Montreal? Lily. You can see Shane look around. He's like, Did anybody see that? Nope. Okay. Nope. Throws that back up there. And then we get Ilya just like arm up fucking. Sir. We're getting left on red hard. But that's fine because you wouldn't look at him.
SPEAKER_04So that was deserved. That was absolutely deserved. And it's I made notes here about how focused Iliad could not care less that other people are around. He doesn't care if somebody's coming and looking over his shoulder. He decided on this Jane and Lily thing. So he feels he's fine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But in this moment, it's he just needs contact with Shane. And I wrote to myself, please be thinking about me like I'm thinking about you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02I think I shared a post where it was just like, I love you, or look at me, look at me, stop looking at me.
SPEAKER_04Yes. And you just feel it in that moment. Like Shane can like compartmentalize it and he can put it back up in the cubby or on the shelf or whatever. And Ilya's just like, I need to know that you're in this moment with me in real time. Um and it's just like it's it's a little like heartbreaking. Like he's trying to put himself out there, even though it's definitely some chirping happening. Yeah. Um but he just he wants him to like be there and flirt with him. And Shane is a nervous little puppy. Yeah, he's just a baby boy. He's just a baby boy with soup in his belly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04He is belly soups. Belly soups. So then we get winter.
SPEAKER_02Yep, our next jump. So we go from summer 2011 to winter 2012. I learned through trying to figure out the timeline because I started getting distracted, like confused because I remember when I first watched it, it said summer 2011 and then it says winter 2012. And in my in my head, winter begins at the end of the year. So I was like, this is like the end of 2012, but it's not, it's the beginning of 2012.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I see what you mean. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Sorry. So it took me a second. Once I realized that, I was like, okay. Because at first I was like, this is way more time. Like, holy shit. But no, this is like maybe seven months. Right.
SPEAKER_04So right. We're not like jumping years. Um, shout out to the airport shot and my low-key complaint. And I've said this to you, is that some of the cutest looks that we get from Shane and from Ilya are in like such short clips. And this is a perfect example, is Shane and his emotional support, you know, leather jacket, circle. Yeah, the hoodie and the so adorable, and we only get it for a short span of time. It's it's a crime.
SPEAKER_02Do you think that that's Connor sitting behind him? I do not. I did look at that. Everyone says it is. And I mean, yeah, I don't. I just don't think so either. And I've seen people say that the guy standing behind him is like a priest. It's not, you guys, it's a dude wearing a collared shirt that's unbuttoned at the top, and he's wearing a white undershirt.
SPEAKER_04It did give me clergy vibes.
SPEAKER_02It's not.
SPEAKER_04It's not, it's not. All right. I'm gonna have to. I promise you it's not. All right. I grew up Catholic, so I have I know, but it's not.
SPEAKER_02I promise. Okay, all right. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get yelled at for that.
SPEAKER_04But but it does, it does create a layer of kind of stress for Shane.
SPEAKER_02I guess I just don't I just don't see Jacob bringing some sort of religious aspect into this like that. You know what I mean? Like and and and every choice that they made was intentional. And I just I just don't I just make that response. It makes no sense. It has no place in the story in any way. And if everything was intentional, yeah. And that because by saying that, that's saying that the every other like out like uh every other like costume choice that the costume designer made. Like if we're if we think that everything was was so specific, why would that why would that be kind of thrown away? Exactly. Why and why would she throw that in there? Right. For what for what reason? You're at the fucking airport. Where does a a priest fit into that? How many priests do you see at the fucking airport? Priests fly. I got priests not family. I'm not saying that they don't, but you know, it's just like I'm totally messing with you.
SPEAKER_04No, oh god, second one. Good lord, she is threatening to punch me.
SPEAKER_02So we get our first uh innuendo.
SPEAKER_04Do you want to come while you're in Boston? Do you? Do you? I mean, I do. And I'm in Boston. I did. See? And we're fired. Uh and poor Shane just not getting the innuendo, you know, like, which is classic, right? Like that is peak neurodivergency of reading something literally and knowing, wait a minute, there's something a little off with this sentence structure. And you get Ilya, presumably at his house. It is just his house. He's in his kitchen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We also named like a fool. We get his first. I it's I don't know if it's his first, but we get uh an a little eyebrow raise where he's like and a little a little tongue, a little bit of a tongue out.
SPEAKER_04You do. No, yeah. Not like out, but he like bites on it. I promise. But he's this this is kind of the the interaction that he wanted back in the locker room. Your cat is what?
SPEAKER_02My cat started yelling at me. I was like, what is that sound?
SPEAKER_04What is happening? Uh but yeah, Ilya is kind of reaching out, and in real time, he's getting some reaction. So you see him light up in a different way. You know, he's not begging for it as much anymore. He's got Shane on the hook.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I see the tongue now.
SPEAKER_04You see it.
SPEAKER_02He got he goes, Yep.
SPEAKER_04Baby boomy.
SPEAKER_02You piece of shit. Stop that.
SPEAKER_04You got it bad. Also, shout out to the French press that's on his countertop. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's a nice one.
SPEAKER_04It's a really nice one. It's the only way to live, and that's really lovely for people who have the time.
SPEAKER_02So he says use Google Translate, go back up. Okay, so it's in this moment when when Shane leans back and crosses his arms, that is when you can tell the most that it is not a priest that's standing behind him. You can clearly see the buttons unbuttoned and that it's just an undershirt. Got it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Evidence, evidence. Presented. Please pay attention to Natalie. Uh I should maybe I should take a screenshot of his. You should take a screenshot.
SPEAKER_02Motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_04My Mariafama. I know things. So then we switch to spring 2012, and we're seeing Shane watch the playoffs at home. And you get a and I have screenshots of this for you as well. You get a shot of his phone. And you see it.
SPEAKER_02Did you hear that? Did you hear that?
SPEAKER_04What?
SPEAKER_02No. I burped, man.
SPEAKER_04Oh, nice.
SPEAKER_02It was a big one too. And you didn't hear it?
SPEAKER_04I didn't hear it. You gotta burp every episode, babe.
SPEAKER_02Uh I mean you saw it, but it was not there.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's fine. So Shane's Shane's phone, and you see that the last text message exchange was about the Google Translate. Do you want to come in Boston? So it's clearly demonstrating that there isn't a lot of in-between conversation casualness about it. It's very like pointed, I want to get some action kind of situation. But he's sitting there, and I love the um the television is right above the fireplace. And then later in this episode, the fire reappears between the two of them, but we'll get there.
SPEAKER_02You're welcome. And the weird thing for the texting, and I guess the only thing that like is confusing to me is that Shane puts Lily in quotations. I felt like that was weird too. Do you want it to be a secret or no?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Are we are we really doing this? Yes. I don't understand. Right. What is this?
SPEAKER_04The quotation mark threw me for a loop because I was like, you of all people are like wanting to be very careful about this getting exposed. And weird choice. Weird choice just doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_02Like why why'd you put her name in quotations? Oh, uh I I I make jokes that her name isn't really her name. What what sir?
SPEAKER_04No, sir. Stop it. Yeah, don't do it. Uh oral fixation.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. Literally both just do that.
SPEAKER_04Jesus Christ. Oh, what a mess. But the fact the fact that they are both doing it is such a beautiful choice that it's like it's becoming more real, it's becoming more tangible for both of them. Uh, this interaction, that it's not just these flirtations, it's I feel you all over, and I get tingly, and what the fuck is going on? Um, the fact that Ilias is, I mean, what else does he have access to? But the fact that it's his necklace is just lovely and such an emotional connection for him that it's like approaching, you know, we have the whole like who fell first and all that business, but it's very symbolic of love for him, that it's something that he carries with him, and here he is interacting with this person that he's starting or already really cares about.
SPEAKER_03And he's like, I gotta chew it.
SPEAKER_01Owen was just for you.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Getting these microphones, you are going to lose your shit when you hear what that sounds like.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, holy hell, holy hell. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_04Well, I'm I'm a mess.
SPEAKER_02Natalie is fine. Well, then we get one of my favorite text messages that gets sent in the whole thing when he says, Yeah. Well, Shane says, See you next year, asshole. And then Ilya says, Promise. I still want that asshole. And yes is proper grammar. He's like, it's proper grammar, but this sentence isn't.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but this one that one was this one, not so much. Not so much at all. And then we get Shane doing the dot dot dot.
SPEAKER_02And he says, I think we should, right?
SPEAKER_04This is like such an I like this parallel between um this scene and Vegas when he deletes uh his text message in the elevator. Totally different vibe. But same thing. It's like he can't in this one, he can't keep up. And in the elevator leaving Vegas, it's like, oh, he's kept up. Like he just he that's a huge leap for him, huge vulnerability. And he's like, Oh, oh, now I can keep up, but my feelings have caught up to me. And so I liked that there if that's a parallel that was intentional, I liked that he deleted this text and was like and tossed his phone and he stops chewing on his drawstring. Like up until then, he's kind of like actively chewing on it in his mouth, and then once he kind of panics, he tosses the phone and just kind of stops.
SPEAKER_02It's an omen for the tuna meltdown.
SPEAKER_04Oh, the heartbreak. Oh, I don't want to talk about that scene at all. It makes my butt okay.
SPEAKER_02If you're listening, um Shane says, I think that you should, and you guys tell us what you think he was gonna say.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I like that. We gotta we gotta post that and get some responses because I I would love to.
SPEAKER_02I want to post it and we'll say, I think that you should tell us what he said, what he would have said, right answers only. I don't want to do the wrong answers.
SPEAKER_04No, the wrong answers has not been working.
SPEAKER_02I want I want right answers only. Yeah, seriously. I need to know.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so they're they're little grins when they're texting back and forth. Amazing. And then we move into fall 2012, and Shane is sitting in the hotel room with Hayden. Hayden is very clearly not playing a game to me. He's like reading something on his phone, and I like to think like reading a little parenting book that Jackie sent him.
SPEAKER_02You know, he's or uh no, I guess it's still too early. I was gonna say, or he's like watching the like they have like a camera at their house.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that's even cuter. Oh, yeah, it might be. I mean, conceivably, I guess they could have, but I just love that like Hayden is sitting there completely unassuming, whatever, and Shane wearing his signature long sleeves for security. Yeah, he's wearing long pants too. Is he? Yeah, yeah. And you see again a shot of Shane's phone where the last interaction was I want that asshole. And he gets the two eight two eight eight six beacon, which for those who don't know Boston, Beacon Beacon Street is a fairly like common name, not just in the city of Boston. It's kind of it's used all over the place. But yes, I shrieked. I will share with you actually the photo that my friend Sarah sent because when she watched the episode, she's like, I had she's an architect. She's like, I had to look it up. And so she she found it on Google Maps, and it's like a an old mill or something like that.
SPEAKER_02That makes sense. You don't want to put an address where people are actually gonna like go where somebody lives.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Um but uh what's that? And he says, a place where you can get what you want, and he says, What do I want? You little you walked right into it, Shane. But it's not even about walking right into it. He knew that. He knew, but but like I don't think he knew he was gonna get a dick pick, but I think that no he he's he's baiting, but honey, things are escalating, yeah. But he's that's what I'm saying, he's baiting. So it's like bro, bro, you're you're wanting to you're wanting to like dip a toe in. So you can't act surprised.
SPEAKER_04No, honey. Also, the theories around the dick pic. Did the actor who played Ilya get sign off on what was used? Do we give a shit? I mean, I don't give a shit, but I've just seen it discussed online. And I'm like, wait a minute. Assuming you give a shit, you're also assuming that it would fucking matter to anyone.
SPEAKER_02I have it paused, so I'm looking directly at a dick right now, in case anyone's wondering.
SPEAKER_04Alright. Her head is tilted for those of you listening and it doesn't look like a picture.
SPEAKER_02It looks like a painting.
SPEAKER_04Okay. It looks like a painting.
SPEAKER_02Well, and I think because you only see it for like two seconds, I don't think this is actually a picture of somebody's dick.
SPEAKER_04You think Ilya sent a picture of a painting of a dick?
SPEAKER_02No, I think in the show it is supposed to be his dick, but I think that the picture that they actually use, I don't think that's an actual photo of somebody's dick. Oh, yeah, right. And I would agree. Yeah. Right. But I because at first I was like, what picture did they use? And now looking at it, I'm just like, it doesn't even look like a photo, especially because earlier we saw the video of Ilya on his phone and it was like perfect.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So why wouldn't why wouldn't the dick pic also be like that?
SPEAKER_04Maybe he blurred it out to create anyway, anyway. Moving on, Shane gets flustered.
SPEAKER_02And I also love that the music cuts out.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god, so good. Like, Hayden's gonna know. What the but then it's great because Hayden exchanges like a little look and he was like, he's like, I don't care. And then Shane's little smile when he picks his phone back up. You're like, he knows that he has to delete that, but he's like, I'm just gonna look one more time.
SPEAKER_02I love that Hayden's like you okay?
SPEAKER_04Are you good?
SPEAKER_02Are you good, my guy? And that's what Aiden's like panic delete, panic delete.
SPEAKER_04I can't. I absolutely can't. Thanks. Thanks, Lily. That's that's a really great. Well done, Lily. Uh, then we get Shane rowing. I did see online I don't know anything about rowing. But I did say somebody on see somebody online was irritated that he didn't have proper form. I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_02Are we gonna talk really about proper form in rowing when you have all of the footage?
SPEAKER_04That's valid. That's totally valid. Expecting. Yes, exactly. Like we're not we're not terribly focused on row, but he doesn't have earbuds in. He doesn't have headphones in.
SPEAKER_02He's got eyes on the phone right between his legs, which is where Ilya belongs, by the way.
SPEAKER_04Thank you very much. His address is not 2886 Beacon. It is right between Shane's legs. Thank you. Uh and then Ilya, you get is he on the bike? That's what I guessed. Yeah, he's on, yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's on um, it's weird though. It's not like just an exercise bike, it's one of those ones where like oh that's okay.
SPEAKER_04Because all I could think of was like old school Nordic track because he was like his shoulders were moving and his hands were moving, and I was like, What is you don't see the machinery, which is fine. And then you get him a back, a back of the head shot looking at um one of the commercials that Shane is in.
SPEAKER_02He's everywhere, and we also get the uh the beautiful uh nine goals next week, why nine? One for each inch of the dick that you want, but we all know thanks to Rachel Reed, that Ilya is a liar.
unknownOh no.
SPEAKER_04Is he perhaps expanding the truth?
SPEAKER_02I believe so. Oh no, I believe what they call it is uh stretching the truth. Yep, yeah. That was my favorite though. Somebody posted about it and they were like, is it really nine inches? And she commented and she was like, Ilya is a liar. And I was like, that is the best thing I could have ever fucking seen in my whole fucking life.
SPEAKER_04Like that's the entire response. That's that's literally that's all she said. Ilya is a liar. He's a liar. His liar liar told you that. Yep, absolutely. Uh and yeah, so the the fact that Ilya sees him in the commercial is very it just like Shane is always on his mind. Like he can escape texting him, thinking about him, and holy shit, I'm just trying to work out.
SPEAKER_02And he's where his head is in ref in reference to 100% Shane's placement, not that he's done and he's moving.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh. Uh-huh. We we love some visual symbolism, people. We love it. We do. We are here for it.
SPEAKER_02So then our next time jump was in 2013.
SPEAKER_042013.
SPEAKER_02Yep, spring 2013.
SPEAKER_04Shane fully geared up in hockey gear, ignores the text from Ilya.
SPEAKER_02But just if Boston wins this round, I get to fuck you next fall deal.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm. But then where does Shane end up? So in full gear, he ignores it. He's in the zone.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he can't. He's like, can't do this.
SPEAKER_04I can't, I can't face this right now. But when does he respond?
SPEAKER_02Once he's back home in bed. He's got no shirt on. Now he can. Maybe he got nothing on the bottom. Maybe Ilya's gonna reply right now.
SPEAKER_04I don't think I don't think it was that.
SPEAKER_02I mean, then he says, what do I get if Montreal wins? And then Ilya says, same thing. Same thing. Same thing, baby. And I love that because I think that I think it's cute because Shane is so competitive. Um so it's like everybody wins. Yeah. No matter who wins, everybody wins.
SPEAKER_04Everybody wins. We stand together at the top.
SPEAKER_02We do.
SPEAKER_04So to speak. All right. So that that's our montage. Yeah, we made it through the montage. We made it through the montage. So next episode we'll pick back up after the opening title. Yeah. I think we're ready.
SPEAKER_01We made it. We made it. We've made it.
unknownWe've done it.
SPEAKER_02So we can uh switch over to our fix for the week. The week. Do you want to go first? Since you have your laptop now and you can use your phone and you can read it yourself. Everybody has a laptop now.
SPEAKER_04I have a laptop now. My computer was straight busted. And you're welcome. And so I was functioning primarily on my phone. And so now I can be a real participating member of this podcast instead of just free riding on Natalie's fame. And I can actually be helpful. And that includes being able to read my own little synopsis because I have two screens.
SPEAKER_01Look at you go.
SPEAKER_04I know it's so important.
SPEAKER_01What is your fic? Let's hear it lay it on.
SPEAKER_04All right. So my fic is, I'm bringing it up as we speak. Um, I won't read the whole description, but mine is called The MILF Theory and Why the Internet Got It Wrong. Okay. A plus title by Pucks and Power.
SPEAKER_02Nice.
SPEAKER_04Nice. I like that one. So the partial summary is in which Ilya's boyfriend's mother keeps adopting him, the internet keeps assuming the worst, and Shane Hollander is having the worst month of his entire life, at least until he does something that breaks hockey forever. Highly recommend. It's pretty it's a pretty brief, uh, it's not too bad. It's 13,000 words. So check it out.
SPEAKER_0210,000 more than mine.
SPEAKER_04Hey.
SPEAKER_02All right, what's what's yours?
SPEAKER_04What do you got?
SPEAKER_02Uh mine is called The Shopping List, and it is by Wonderless in Violet. And the summary is Ilya is a menace, and Shane needs his shopping list to stay on task. Um, it was in response to somebody asking for a fic with Ilya wearing um his backwards cap, basically what he was wearing uh when he got picked up at the airport in Ottawa by Shane. So it's very hot.
SPEAKER_04Love. I will be reading that as soon as we are finished here. Thank you very much and good night. Appreciate it. Appreciate you joining us. So check out the fix. Send us art, send us fix. We like we like a good recommendation.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, please tell us about the fix that you're reading that you're loving. Um, and then we also have a cool uh thing that we're working on. It's still a work in progress, but we're still a work in progress, yes. Yeah, give you a little a little update. So, Liz, go ahead. You have that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so the same artist that helped us with logos and with artwork for the pod. Um I spontaneously one night after taking a gummy wrote the version of Goodnight Loon to Goodnight Moon, which if you are a parent, even if you aren't a parent, you're probably familiar with the Goodnight Moon book.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they do it on um uh CNN every New Year's. They write them. Yeah, they they write like a good night moon for like a whole year. Yeah, it's I had no idea. I didn't know it's like an actual book, it's fun.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and in in Minnesota, there actually is in existence a because the loon is the state bird, the goodnight loon actually exists. So this artist has helped us out to format the poem and also create a hotel room image in the style of Goodnight Moon with some heated rivalry hidden gems. So our plan is to print postcards, posters, yeah.
SPEAKER_02We're still working out those details.
SPEAKER_04We're still working out the details, um, where 100% of the money is gonna go to charities, um, which we're trying to determine the specific ones and determine the process to try and make this as easy as possible for folks who are interested in having a little a fun little piece of original art um from somebody who appreciates the fandom and from us because we appreciate you.
SPEAKER_02So be able to do some sort of like digital download also.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, we might be yeah, we might be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02People want to be able to like take it and print it themselves or whatever. So yeah, so yeah, that'll be fun. And we'll give you guys a little um sneak peek on that. We're gonna we'll close the episode with some stuff from there. So yeah. Oh all right. So next we got we're gonna move into the yeats.
SPEAKER_04All right, what what are we yeeting out?
SPEAKER_02Yeeting out, we're gonna go back to back to one we did not long ago. Um we're gonna go back to the demandums. Yeah, you know, like there's I think that I think that it's just it's it's really uh important that we understand that none of these people owe us anything. Nobody. Not Jacob, not Rachel, not any of the actors, nobody. And we are lucky that we are being bestowed so much content pretty much all the time. I mean, I feel like every single day I see somebody post saying, like, can one of them please take their fucking foot off my neck off of my neck? You know, and so that is the case. So just enjoy what we're getting. Like, don't demand things from people. Stop fucking tagging them in stuff.
unknownTagging, I can't.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I understand, I understand that it in some situations it's innocent, and I, you know, I understand it. I'm not saying that, but like, man, some of y'all just really need to fucking act like slow your roll.
SPEAKER_04Also, they're not uh reading your stuff.
SPEAKER_02There's so many of us on threads, it's enjoy enjoy enjoy the community, be a part of it, you know.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and that said, eat in eating in and eat in uh any any potential for like celebrating other people that are doing things within the fandom, but also eating in the patience because we're we're probably closing in on a content drought, and I will actively have to block people who are like, oh my god, I haven't had a new picture of them in over a month, and I don't know what to do. Well, honey, you need to take a walk and drink a glass of water.
SPEAKER_02Try to remember when we weren't seeing Connor when he was finishing filming his project, you know. We didn't there's gonna be some of that, and that's okay. Um, but there we'll be fine. We are we will be we will be fed. We will be fed. There is many, there is many foods. So many foods for you. So many fandom foods. Nom nom nom. Munch, munch, munch if you want. Munch, munch, munch.
SPEAKER_04Munch, munch, munch, munch, munch, munch. Jesus Christ. So all right, we gotta we gotta roll. So to end our episode this week, we are going to share the good night loon poem. Nat, are you ready? Yes. That Liz wrote.
SPEAKER_02Liz wrote this. I didn't I had nothing to do with this. I get no credit other than I'm gonna read it and make it sound.
SPEAKER_04That is true. Well, fine, but you're perfect and lovely, and I can't live without you. All right, are you starting or am I starting? You start it out. I'll start it. All right, are you people ready? Yep. Good night hockey stick and first draft pick.
SPEAKER_02Good night, Shane Sox, and good night cox.
SPEAKER_04Good night, Boston Bear, dragging a chair.
SPEAKER_02Good night, Angry Kitten, acting smitten.
SPEAKER_04Good night, Globelights and Terrace Fights.
SPEAKER_02Good night, foot touches and stairwell blushes.
SPEAKER_04Good night, moon, and good night loons.
SPEAKER_02Good night, slutty glasses and perfect asses.
SPEAKER_04Good night boring and open mouth snoring. Love that one.
SPEAKER_02Good night things and Olympic rings.
SPEAKER_04Oh no. Good night cottage and goodnight frotage. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Good night smoothies, good night ale.
SPEAKER_04Good night hotel rooms everywhere.
SPEAKER_02Good night, moon.
SPEAKER_04And good night.
SPEAKER_02Good night loons.
SPEAKER_04That was just for you all.
SPEAKER_02Good night loons.
SPEAKER_04Well done. Good night, Nat. Good night, Loon.