You think there is enough...butt stuff? NEVER

Greetings Yeeters! 

Get ready for BUTT STUFF! We finally get to talk about Ilya and Shane’s first penetrative experience….and it’s FUN.

We also highlight the other podcasts that have been created because of Heated Rivalry. CHECK THEM OUT!

HR centric Podcasts

Believe in anything 

Loon call 

Tonsil hockey 

Everyone deserves sunshine 

Since Rookie Season 

Long Game 

Craving Rivalry 

Radio rivalry 

Heated yapping

Fic Recs:

Liz - 

Corner Of the World by berrycluv

https://archiveofourown.org/works/76752371

Nat - 

Take One For The Team by burlesquecomposer 

https://archiveofourown.org/works/80564976

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Listen to me, yeeters. Are you ready for yet another episode? This one is good because we are well into episode two. Woo! And guess what we get to talk about today? But stop!

SPEAKER_00 0:22

But stop! But stop!

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Stop! I'm so excited!

SPEAKER_02 0:30

So I I have to say that Nat, right before, say hi to Nat. Hi Nat. Hi, I'm here. Yay. Um, before we started recording, Nat said, wouldn't it be funny if when we finally meet in person, just because so everyone's clear, we don't live near each other. We live many, many states away. That if all of a sudden we got in the same room and we were just like nothing. Like, we can't shut the fuck up when we're on video calls, but you know, in person, we're like, oh god, what do we do?

SPEAKER_03 1:03

We can't shut the fuck up when we're inside. We're outside. We are so scared. I'm so scared.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

I'm just a tiny baby. All right. So uh before we get started, let's mention our bracket. So we we are into bracket number two. Things are getting real. I apologize. I apologize, first of all, for my many typos because listen, it is a character flaw.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

It's not, it's adorable, it's endearing. It's endearing. Everybody, everybody makes typos.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

I have many qualities, and typos is one of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

It was my responsibility. I should have known. I should have proofread.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

You should. I'm sorry it's it's okay for letting you down. Natalie, I forgive you. Thank you for that. You are forgiven. So I understand that everyone has strong feelings about the matchups.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

And the winner of bracket number one, which was to my cottage this summer.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

That was, I mean, it's kind of predictable, but also not because there were some really good ones in that the semifinals, they really could have gone either way.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

So I think that was the thing. It was like, if if will you come to my cottage this summer didn't make it to the final, I think it really would have been more of a toss-up. But yeah, once once that was in, it was like, nah, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Yeah. The one that just finished that finished at 51, 49%. I think Natalie is gonna look. I was slightly devastated. And I I have to confess to everyone, I don't think like a single one that I have picked has has won. Like I'm always like underdog. I like the offbeat ones, apparently, that less people like.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

So the Mr. Real Estate versus you can't do math. Is that the one you're talking about?

SPEAKER_02 2:54

Yes, and I am devastated because Mr. Real Estate, the way that line is said, goes through my soul every time. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

But what? You can do math?

SPEAKER_02 3:08

I I don't give a fuck about math when he says Mr. Real Estate. I don't. I just don't. At anyway, all right, fine. So we're gonna keep going with the bracket. We love it. We love your love for it. Hopefully, all of our typos are gone. Please ask for clarification if there are any, you know, if you need to know the scene or the reference point. And uh before you know it, we're gonna be into our sweet 16. It's gonna be so much. Just wait. I know. So good. So good. So, Natalie, what was your most recent reheat?

SPEAKER_01 3:38

Do you have a can? Ah, son of a yes, I do. I was actually gonna be like, oh, I got a big one. I got a baby. It's a baby sun drop.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

Oh my god, you're gonna like shoot that back in like a second. It's a baby. It's a time at baby sun drop. I got my my classic. You ready? Every time. Every time. All right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, I just got it all over my notes. I'm a hot mess. All right. Full sugar soda. Yeah. Oh no. Natalie's drinking full sugar. I would I would like everyone to buckle up, please.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

We are in trouble now. All right. So most recent reheat. I gotta be honest again. I still have not watched a full episode.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Really? It's been a while. I mean, but but you have other shows that you are committed to, which we all respect.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

We all respect. Yes. I am I am a heated rivalry super fan. Obviously. But I watch a lot of TV. I uh I watch all of the each of the shows. So all all of the each of the shows. Yeah. I mean, I even have an I even have an app that I use to keep track of all of my TV shows that I'm watching.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

I love this. What are you kidding?

SPEAKER_01 5:02

What app? It's called TV Club Stop. Yeah. And like it even gives you like a watch list of episodes that are out, and then there's a schedule, so it'll tell you like when episodes are gonna come out of stuff.

unknown 5:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

So like watching the pit right now, I'm sure a lot of people are so good.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

This is a whole universe. I had no idea existed. I am I'm a lover of subcultures.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

I love a little like I I love when people have like niche things that they're really into. And even if it's not my thing, I love hearing about when it's their thing. Like I love gaming culture. I'm not a gamer. I don't like I can't sit down and play anything.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Well, I love watching clips though on Instagram and stuff. I love that shit. Send me all the clips. There was that clip that I shared today of that guy playing uh I don't even know what game it is. It's some PC game, but he's like, wait, come here, I gotta ask you something. He's like, Will you come to my cottage this summer? Oh my god. Magic. So fucking funny.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

So cute. Oh my god. So yeah, like I I mean, share share with me. You can share it on the pod account or share with me. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

And anyone, anyone listening or watching, if you want to talk to me about TV shows other than heated rivalry, you are more than welcome to. Yeah. Hell yeah. But all of that to say, I have not watched an entire episode. However, again, just like last time, I have been watching many an edit, and my favorite thing that I think I watched was the edit that my mother-in-law sent to me yesterday. The wholesomeness of this, I cannot lie. She sends me an Instagram link with a bunch of hearts, and it is a link to an edit of Ilya's Russian monologue.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

And it's like, you know, so it's an edit. It's got a bunch of like, you know, different clips from the show, and it's over a Max Richter song. And I think I've seen it before. Okay. But it's just, oh my God. Just so gorgeous. The music. I love that song anyway. I need to look up and remember what it was called, but oh, I was like, girl, what are you doing? She sent it to me in the morning. I was like, are you trying to make me cry? What is it in the morning, Laura?

SPEAKER_02 7:21

I love you. Thank you so much. Do it again tomorrow. Do it again tomorrow. 8 15. Oh my god. That's so beautiful. I I did I believe I said at some point on threads today. I was like, I can't do feelings right now. I'm not ready for it. And I think we need to put a pause on it because people keep throwing bricks. Mm-hmm. Roll hard. No one's kissing them. No one's kissing them.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

It's a lot of observations, and I'm lying right now because I love every single one of them.

unknown 7:54

Keep going. Keep going, please. We love it.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

But it hurts. It hurts. Baby. It's oh God. All right. Sorry. So my reheat. My most recent reheat was um. Oh, I did I again, I gotta do five. I did I I watched five the other night. Um, and if you Oh, was that when you had it on the projector the other night? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Yes. Oh my god. So awesome. I'll have to like slice that picture in here that you say the projector.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

So I we have a like a slanted wall in our bedroom or a slanted like part of the ceiling, and it's legit like a probably like 12 foot wide by 10 foot high perfection. I mean, that's the way those scenes were like made.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

Perfect for butt stuff. Perfect for butt stuff. But honestly.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Oh god. If we if this was like a job, we would very much get fired for like this thing situation right now. This this would be like a display.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

We'd be on it, we'd be on a pip.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

100%. It'd be like a 30-day. We wouldn't even get 90 days out of that pip.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

They're already moving the goalposts. They're already they're already they're working trying to use out. Yeah. Uh but yeah, five and six, I really I need to do a four, five, six reheat. So that's something that I think I'm gonna do um maybe this weekend.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are reading Game Changer.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

I am all right.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Does that make you want to watch the skip episode at all? Are you oh very nice. Look at how look at that. It's right there. Modeling. Oh, here we have Natalie with a copy of the Game Changer book by Rachel Reed.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

I'm on page 141.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

On page 141.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

This is my bookmark that I bought.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

Very nice.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

It's made of wood.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

And we're about to discuss some wood.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

Bringing it back. Perfect. So where we left off was right after You Come Here, No, You Come Here, and we get super hot, sexy kisses.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Is that the sound? So that's can we get for a moment the kissing? I mean, I I realize uh is it Bella who is doing the kiss of the day? Yes. Hi, we love Bella. That is some incredibly important work. And I know lots of science. It's completely for science. And I cannot tell you how many times I have gone back for science to make sure that I have uh referenced the correct thing. It's very important. These in particular are very good because they it's it's like this it's two years and they've the waiting is just excruciating for both of them. And you can tell that they finally both understand that the other has been wanting the same thing. And and all kind of like chirping aside the like come here, no, you come here, the competitive the sweet competitiveness in that exchange is just so beautiful. And I like that it shows Ilya just being like a little bit like vulnerable to and in like a playful, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

It's well, I feel like he started that. Sorry, I feel like I have like a hair that found it, it's got it.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Ah, first try.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Don't you hate that when it's like a tiny fuzz or something that's like on your eyelashes? It's like a fucking kill somebody. Yeah. Um I gotta be careful, I can't say those things. Um that kind of started earlier, I think, because whenever he uh he's like chirping him about the pillows, and Shane says, You're such an asshole, and he looks at him and he says, I think maybe you like it. Oh like I think that was the start of the like of him being like more vulnerable. He's like, Alright, I'm here. I'm about to get up in them guts, bro. Let's go. I think maybe you like it. I think you'll like it more later.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

I'm about to show you some things you're gonna like. Give me that asshole. Stop it. No, you're so no, I will never stop it. We did cover this in the last episode, but it is worth mentioning again. This is top-tier Ilya look. Oh the deep V shirt, the curls, the lighting, A.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

And I think it's also top tier Ilya look when he has no more clothes on. Well, I mean, yeah. Because the hair is good. Shout out to hair and makeup.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Shout out to grooming for this show because yes, yes, please, thank you. Could I have another?

SPEAKER_01 13:13

Um we switch to the bed. We got some kissing, alias kissing him, and then we have our next very obvious check for consent.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

There is no let's let's do let's do checks. Consent check. Consent check. Consent check. I'm making a little list.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Um so he uh he asks what you still want, and Shane says, Yeah, get up in there. And then he does not say that for the record. I know that he's like, do you think do you think he's like putting his dick like up on him, or is he pushing it down between his legs? I can't tell exactly what he's doing there.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Um, I think it's just a matter of it because like he he lifts himself up and does something with his hand and then says, Don't worry, it will fit. Um I don't think he's necessarily moving it one direction or another. I think it's just a matter of it's there and it's about Well, I know that it's not actually happening.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

I just mean like what are they what are they trying to imply? Um I wanna know! Is the dick on his is it on his tummy or is it on his butt?

SPEAKER_02 14:35

I wanna know. No, I do not think it is on his butt. I think just like geographically, I think it's on his tummy.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Um and maybe that's why he said don't worry it'll fit because they're both looking at it.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Exactly.

unknown 14:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

This is pre- this is pre this is like pre pre-fraudage.

SPEAKER_02 14:52

Oh well, exactly. And I think that like that we're like needing to be.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Like they just they just met. Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

And at this point He's like, here, hello, put them together. Hey, what's up? Nice to meet you. We should maybe let me introduce myself. Hello.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Um, I'm about to I have a feeling we're gonna be forced together very soon.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

This is gonna be a very close situation. This is very, very important. So no, I think that it is very close to a fraudage situation, and that's probably why Shane looks a little like nervous at first, and then when he looks down, he sees it, which prompts Ilya to be like Don't worry, it will fit.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Don't worry, it will fit. And the way that Shane looks, because like as soon as he says it, you can barely see him through the little like triangle of his arm and body. Yes, but he looks so fucking baby girl. He is just like I'm like, bro, what the fuck are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 15:54

It's so sweet. Oh, he does. Oh my god, I just paused it on that.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

He's like, oh he's like, oh right. He said, Don't say that to me. Don't tell me it will fit. I know it will. I've been practicing.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

And in it's important to note that in the book, he he talks about or mentions that he had like tried to watch a little bit of porn to kind of like get himself right, and he he could not even go through with watching the porn. Like it was a little, it was just like too much for him, set sensory overload, whatever. So he could he can conceptualize, he know he gets it, yeah, but he couldn't go through with the full like research packet, as it were. Um the incomplete research, however, he is still ready. I'm gonna need you to do a still shot and include that in the video because that that pause of his face in the little triangulation of the arm is absolutely top tier.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

I told you he's fucking baby girl in that movie.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

I do love I do love those posts on threads where they're like um who's baby girl and who's daddy, and it's like and they're always just so good and so accurate. And I always hate I always hated the term daddy until this show, and I was like, oh no, it's actually right.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

Gerard, Gerard fucking hates it. Yeah. I remember when we were first dating, I said it as a joke one time, and he was like, nope, mm-mm, no. And I was like, whoa, okay, we're sorry. Shit, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

I said I said it to Jen once, and she was like, the fuck you say. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

You should try it again since she's so much better at laying pipe now.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Oh my god, I I oh my god. I also so I told I told her that we mentioned the laying pipe thing after her, you know, going off on the construction outside the house. And she was like, Wait, you talked about me on the podcast? We love you, Jen. I was like, Yeah, babe. I was like, I'm married. Yeah, I talked about you. My wife. Yeah, you're I'm your wife. And she was like, Well, well, I mean, I mean, I guess that's okay. I was like, all right, well, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Half of your half of your existence legally belongs to me, so I get to talk about you part of the time if I feel like it.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

I was like, what what's gonna happen exactly? Like, I you could be making it up. It could be a fake person. It could be that is true. Her name might not even be Jen. Is it one end or two? Who knows? Nobody knows. Nobody knows.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Who knows?

SPEAKER_02 18:35

No ends. All right, so we have wait, before we get too much further, I also wanted to point out how important it was that before the come here, come here. I know I'm going too far back, but I'm allowed. That Shane's little thumbs are in his pockets.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

They're always in his pockets.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

No, but always. He just says it's so good though, because it's like his little security thing. He's like, I'm gonna hold on to my pockets, and I'm just holding on for dear life until I can get my little thumbs up around his little face. Oh, which he does. Which he does. So I'm sorry. Sorry, we're triangulating, we're baby. Did it come through? Honey, my love, my delicate flower. Did it come through?

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Well, remember last time it didn't come through because I had it on a different setting. So now the microphone's on a different setting. So I think it should have caught it. I think you made up for it.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Yay! Oh my god.

unknown 19:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Oh my god, the devastation. So, as you were saying, moving on. Um, so we've asked for we've got one consent check mark, and then we lean over and they are getting the condo. Wait, hold on. No, no, no, no. Before that, we had the butt shot.

unknown 19:52

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

The butt shot is my god, the butt shot. Is that I mean I'm surprised that the fucking cameraman was able to get it over.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

Right? Like, how does that even and again? I know I've said this before. Where do you buy pants? Do they always have to have pleats? Like, how does it I don't like it's j it's so lovely. There's no denying that. We there is no density.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

If anyone is listening to us that also has a dump truck ass, let us know how you buy pants.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

Can you imagine somebody? Can you imagine somebody like writing in or like call like if it was Colin and they were like, hello, hello, I have a dump truck ass, and I would just like to confirm that uh yes, it is very hard to buy pants.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Uh and I if you can find out where to buy them, please let me know.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

I mean, pants are notoriously a hard thing to buy, who no, no matter who you are, because they're terribly made and inconsistent and whatever.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Oh god, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

It's awful, especially for it's terrible. Um but the butt shot, and I remember there was an interview where they talked about what Nothing, go ahead. You're good. Sorry. Uh there was an interview where they talked about you know their comfort level with each other and with their bodies, but they were also conscious of like the camera people and the lighting people, and when they're like making adjustments and stuff. I remember that. Hudson was like, I don't want you to have to like like look all up at my butthole just because you have to adjust the light.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

And I mean, that's legit. Like that's that's very considerate. I mean, thank you for your service, and but also, I mean, that's their job, right? Is that they are the lighting people and the camera people and yeah. I'm sorry, I have to interrupt. Did you see what I made my name on Zoom?

SPEAKER_03 21:46

I did.

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Nothing. I had to ask for it. I had to beg for it.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

I had to They're missing. What do you want me to say? I can't find you. You're gone. Okay. So but that is funny because they are missing in the comments.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

They are missing. Nobody knows. They're gone now. So Shane Baby Girl is getting supplies.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Yep. And we know from the books that it is lube and condoms. But the reason why I chuckled a second ago is because when he leans over as he's reaching, the only thing that you can see on his nightstand is a box of tissues. Stop. It's the only thing that you that is showing. Oh my god. So it pants over, and you just see his headband or his headboard and then a box of tissues immediately next to the bed.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Oh Shane, baby, with your priorities. Yeah, he's uh I got I gotta clean it up. I gotta I like I like my jobs clean. Um we do have we also have reflective. If we're we're still visiting the mirror reflective situation behind the headboard, there is it's looks like it's like marble and it's like reflective surface, which we count. I'm counting as reflection.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

And we get Ilya with a little chirp about well, we get Shane being a little overprepared. I know just break them apart, my dude.

unknown 23:26

I know come on.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

It's perforated. It's they come if it's a thing. You and they you know it's happening. Right. I I can't believe, quite frankly, that it wasn't I mean, it would wouldn't have worked in the moment, but like that it wasn't like a full box. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Like you had to like open the full box or like take the cellophane off, or you know, like I bet you anything, it is the box, and that Ilya just reached in and grabbed one of the the ribbons of condoms.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

It's like this latter.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

Are those like magnums? They're gold.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

I don't know. I can't tell. No, I can't tell.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

I mean, we know he's we know he claims to have nine inches, so.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

Oh lord. Oh yeah. Oh, I didn't realize you got such a good look at like the label. Did Magnum pay for product placement? We need to know.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

I don't think so. I think you would have been able to very clearly see it if so.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

I mean it for all I know it's like a York peppermint patty.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Oh, and then we got him flipped back over and we got some super, super sweet kisses, and then some face grabbing.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

I love when he just like Well, he yeah, he like pushes him back to the pillow. He's like, I gotta get to work.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Well, yeah, but he but he does that. So he pushes him back on the pillow and then he kisses him, and then he takes his hand and he like he like you know runs it like this, and then right before he goes down, he just goes the single, the single, like one last one last little squeeze.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

And then one last little adorable book. Yep. And the last little like titty squeeze. I also love that like Shane grabs his hand when he's like doing his little titty squeeze. He like he grabs Ilya's hand because in the books it there's a moment, I think it happens later in the books. Um, maybe it's actually the tuna melt scene where there's a hand grab and it's a much more pivotal moment. Yeah. And it's and in a book, I I think it works more um dramatically than it would in a TV show. Um, but it's it occurred to me when I watched this scene. I was like, oh yeah, in the book, he like notices that Ilya grabs his hand and or that he grabbed his hand. Um and now, ladies and gentlemen, we have the main event, and Shane does not know what to do with himself. Well, is it the main event? No, it's like precursor to main events, I suppose.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Well, I feel like this is a good time to talk about the difference between the book and the show for this. Because for me, I so when I found when I watched the show, the episode five had premiered, and so I like speed listened to the book because I was like, I want to know what happens in the cottage before I watch it, because I was like, I want to read it, I want to know, I want to know all this stuff. So I listened to the whole thing, I listened to the whole cottage part, and I was like, this is so fucking funny. Like when he eats his ass, that whole thing. I was like so excited. I was like, I don't know how they're gonna put it in, but it I think it's gonna be there. And so for a long time, I didn't think that this that's what this was, yeah, yeah. Right. And so I had to be corrected, which I'm happy to be always be corrected if I'm wrong. Please, please, God, tell me if I'm wrong. Um so, but yeah, in the book, this that doesn't happen at this point, right? And in the book, it happens at the cottage when they first get there. And Shane is not on his back.

unknown 27:15

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Not his Shane is on all fours, and he thinks something else is about to happen. Yeah, Ilya is uh tongue deep in his uh butthole. Uh, and Shane is about to come. And so he doesn't want to rub against the covers, and so he jerks back and he butts Ilya in the fucking face. And I know that they didn't they couldn't put it in there, but oh my fucking god. So good. So sad that it wasn't in there just selfishly because I wanted to see the ass smash into the face. And I know that Connor would have just been like, it would have been so fucking perfect. It would have been so good. Incredible. We love you, Jacob. We we we trust you, and everything was perfect. Yes, everything was perfect. But all about to say, I think that that is such a funny thing, and I'm glad that they changed it the way that they did. Oh, this works so well. Um but yes. He's eaten his butthole. Eating his butthole.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

Um and kind of tough though. The angle's so weird. The angle's really strange. I mean, like that's where I mean, that's where the knees belong. And yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah. So shout out to overarching just representation of queer intimacy in shows. Because uh prior to this, I mean, I uh generationally everybody's gonna be in a different place, right? In in terms of the exposure that you had and how you were raised and what you were permitted to consume, and then even as an adult, what you desire to consume and what you don't and the accuracy that of what you see here is just so beyond anything that I ever thought that queer people could could have.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Um and not in a like raunchy and disrespectful way, which I think is a lot of times how queer culture and especially queer sex is defined. Um fetishized. Oh my god. And it's like clearly being enjoyed and celebrated, and it's it's just so so lovely. And I I think back to like the the me, because that's my frame of reference is my experience, right? And obviously, I'm well, not obviously, because what the fuck do you people know? But I'm a cis, I'm a cis woman, you know, and my experience was super limited by religion and socioeconomic status, and this was never something I mean, if you have not used Urban Dictionary as a result of some of the things that happen on this show, then good on you. Because I I seriously, because there are I feel like there are a lot of things that in this show that people have learned, and I think that that is great. Like there is no shame and no expectation that everybody should should know what fraudage is, or that everybody should know the oh even as a woman, like why why would I why would I have intricate knowledge of that exactly, exactly, and so yeah, yeah, I don't know. Is is as long as there's no shaming around it and we're all open to learning about it, it's it's just making it better for for everybody for for learning.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

I love learning that shit. Whenever I see something, I'm like, what is that? And then I learn like, what?

SPEAKER_03 31:18

What that's what that is? Oh my god, who? Well do it again.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

I think I think you texted me about something, and I was like, oh, I didn't know it by that name. I knew it by this name. And you're like, that one's so much better.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Man, what was that? That was good.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

I feel like it was the um it was I knew it by it was called Supermanning.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

Oh, what did I call it then?

SPEAKER_02 31:46

I forget what you you called it probably, I think what like more it's like more mainstream it's known by.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

I don't know, let's not get hung up on let's not get hung up on it. At any rate, um so so anyway, so I just the queer representation of intimacy is so necessary and it yeah, it's handled with such like grace and and like reverence. And I think that that's the thing that was super apparent for me watching it is you can you can just tell that the person that made this knows what he's talking about, understands the right way for it to be communicated, right, and does that like he didn't let anybody tell him to do anything differently, right? You know, he was like, this is what it's gonna be, and I mean that I think Hudson and Connor talked about it in an interview where they said that he was very explicit about everything. He was like, I'm not going to assume that you know anything. Yes, yes, so I'm gonna tell you everything.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

Right. So, like I'm gonna explain this is how it feels. Like, I don't need to know anything about you personally or experiences you have or haven't had. This I'm gonna lay it all out for you. And they took that information and used it and we got this fucking and performed it accurately, you know?

SPEAKER_01 33:14

Like it's well, yeah, because like when it when it cuts to him asking again, consent check, he says, still okay. And Shay nods. And then we get to see which we obviously know is Ilya Genabinam Guts. Why do you have to say it like that? I don't know. I don't know. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay, baby. Uh I know. Um, and yeah, you can say anal sex.

SPEAKER_03 33:45

You you can penetrative sex.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

There it is. She did it. Thanks, Tiff. She said it. She said it in the new episode of Radio Rivalry. Nice job. Within the first minute. I was like, it was perfect. Uh so Ilya's in there, and then you get to see Shane's reaction, which I think is perfect. No, no notes. Do it again.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

So um also, so this silhouette when he asks, you know, is it still okay? And he says, yes. The cross dangling. Of course. And catching the light. Brilliant just an amazing detail of the connection between them and you know, kind of Ilya's vulnerability just being, you know, both kinds of vulnerability. Yeah. Whatever. Um but his the the way uh the way he keeps checking in is is I don't know. It just there's something about it that like breaks my heart because the way he says it, it uh to me it seems like he's expecting a no. There's something about the way he delivers those lines. Is it he's expecting it any minute for Shane to be like, that this is too much.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Yeah, to change his mind.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Yeah. And trying to get ahead of it. Yes, and that it's not about like the the sex act necessarily, but that it's Iliad, it's too much.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

And just the the weight of like he also knows this motherfucker will have a panic attack. So he's like, Bro, are you good? Bro, bro, bro. You good?

SPEAKER_02 35:37

You okay? The sheet's about to get real dirty. Use your words, please. Talk to me, talk to me. Um, also the nose profiles in this yeah, look, side profiles.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

You guys can all suck my dick, okay? Both of you.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Fuck you and these side profiles in their perfection. And fuck. I'm so mad about them. Like, why is that fair?

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Why is it not? It's not, it's just not. So we cut to them fucking full speed ahead. And we get one of my favorite little moments that I did not notice until recently, which is is Illi or Shane's foot in the top right hand corner.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

Yes, this is why my name is Shane's missing.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

Oh my god, you're right. Jesus Christ. Oh my god. Right? But I mean, I knew his legs were in the air. I mean, I guess I don't I guess I didn't know if his feet were in the air. I knew his legs were like pulling up, but I thought maybe they were just like bent.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

But I mean he's got no he is like he is in a full this is like a 3D immersion experience.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

This is surround sound, this is it for him. He he wants the full ride.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Well, and speaking of surround sound, this is the first time that you hear Ilya's necklace clinking. I didn't hear it until I watched it with headphones for the first time on my laptop. And I went nuts. I got on threads and I was just like, I can fucking hear it!

SPEAKER_00 37:31

You're right!

SPEAKER_02 37:36

Um, also, how many people I need to know? Maybe, maybe we need another poll about this. Before that when this episode first came out, and before we knew songs and Peter Peter and the brilliance of the soundtrack, how many people tried to find this song?

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Oh, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Because I know, I know I did. It like it was a like just this haunting, perfectly matched the the vibe, the mood.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

Um I remember when I tried to look it up and I couldn't find it. And then I remember when I watched it again thinking like this must have just been made for the show. Right, right. But it took me trying to find it and not finding it anywhere before I was like, okay, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

Maybe, maybe they have someone who can do that. Maybe they have people who write music. Who also produces a soundtrack.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Oh god.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Oh god, we're a mess. Um the the language that they had, I I think it was um Shayla did an interview and she talked about kind of the language that the actors had for when they were out of frame, when they were like, okay, like when I touch your thigh like this, that means penetrating. Um and just like Shane's reaction when it's clear that like Ilya has passed a certain point.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

And he puts his head back. I feel it. Yeah, I felt it too. I was like, Oh my god. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

We're gonna recover. Ooh, ooh, that was a good one. Anyway, his his face and his reaction is both like more subtle than I was expecting, but also exactly what I was expecting. It's like he's trying to like still keep it close to his chest, but like also can't help it. So to him, to Shane, that's a big reaction.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

Um, and you can tell that Ilya's like, you know, he's like, be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. We're good, we're good, we're good, we're good, good, good, good, good. Well, lots of stims in this episode today, you guys.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Sorry. Yeah, we're fine. We're totally fine.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

So yes, we get our next consent check. Uh-huh. Still okay. We're up to three. And Shane gives a quick nod. He says, Pisa, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

unknown 40:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Yep. And again, I maintain, I feel like Illia's just like thinking that it it's gonna be a no.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

I really do. Flips him over.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Oh, Shane.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Mm-hmm. And this is number four, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Natalie Joy. Natalie. So, and he so he does the thing. Mm-hmm. No, I'm giving you the look. Don't try to look away from me.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

I'm still giving you the look.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

I'm not I'm focused over here. I'm doing something.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

I'm doing something.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Yeah, me too. I'm busy. Oh, but the these shots, like once Shane flips over, these are my favorite shots. I mean, I like the I like the face-to-face ones, but I'm how come I don't know. I think I think maybe just the way that Ilya looks. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. And then so we get another consent check. You already did that one, right?

SPEAKER_02 41:44

I already did. So we did one before he flipped over onto a stomach, and now another one. So yeah, after he in air. Yeah. And so is this the one where he says Jesus Christ? Yes. Yes. He's like, stop fucking asking. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Just can we just make this make this a thing?

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Like I remember now why this is my favorite. Why is this your favorite? Because they they come at the same time at the very end. And so that the part where he's just like, Are you?

SPEAKER_02 42:14

And then Shane's like and he's this yeah, and this is where the um the subtitles weren't right. Was that the general consensus? Is that Shane says I'm coming?

SPEAKER_01 42:27

I don't think it was the subtitles weren't right. I there was just nothing there. Okay. And so I don't think that you can hear it. I don't think you can hear it well enough to where it it would have like justified putting it on the screen. Got it. Um, but it is there. It is not any of this I want to please you shit in episode four. Okay. It's there. He says, I'm coming.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

Right. No, I agree. And he says, Oh god! Oh my god, I think I just peed my pants a little when you did that.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Oh my god, that was very shocking. Oh, it's so fucking hot because he's just like, Are you?

SPEAKER_02 43:11

Yes. And you can I feel like he's proud. I feel like he's proud of Shane, and I feel like he's proud of himself. I think he's also kind of thinking that it's not real. Well, yeah, right?

SPEAKER_01 43:25

I think yeah, then that thing's the oh god hollander is yeah. He's like, is this actually happening? Am I about to fucking do okay?

SPEAKER_02 43:33

Yep, yep, there I go. And in the book, I do I remember the line in the book that it's from Shane's perspective that he says something about Ilya um fucking with the confidence of a sex god. And I'm like, I mean, he ain't wrong.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

And people want to say he didn't have his first male to male encounter until after he met Shane. No. No, no. No. Sorry. We're we're being very confrontational today. We love you all. Everybody's right. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

Everybody's right. Everybody's wrong. We can all stay together. So coming together.

SPEAKER_01 44:15

Kisses him on the back.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Oh, the kisses.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

We know that there is cum all over the sheets.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

Oh my god. Poor thing. He's devastated. I'm devastated.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Mortified.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

Mortified. Where's he gonna sleep? Not there. Not there. There better be a guest room. But this so this mirrored position, which we've established, is then we see again in the cottage. Also, shout out to the um the color scheme in this particular shot, because they've got like the a bit of like blue lighting on them, but then the complementary orange lighting in the back.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

The duality of the lighting in this whole fucking show just is just killing me.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

Just killing me. But yeah, this this body position and Ilya just like kissing any part of him that he can possibly get like savoring the moment.

SPEAKER_01 45:10

And he's he says no to buzz all dirty.

unknown 45:15

Shame.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

And I love it. Ilya's like, what?

SPEAKER_02 45:18

What? That's the thing that you're fucking saying to me right now? Shut up. No. Like, shut the fuck up. Fuck off, dude.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Like you hired a designer and you didn't get waterproof sheets. How dare you? And then he gives them the kisses, like you were saying, gives him the sweet kiss on the lips, and then says I'll shower now. Yeah. And then we saw people post about this, and then this was a while ago, but yes. Ilya was was still in there. They were hanging out. Yeah. Yeah. So when he goes to like move away from Shane, that's when he pulls himself out of Shane.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

Pulls himself out. I guess I I'm not necessarily contesting whether or not that's true. I'm I'm not I don't argue it. I guess I would have expected Shane to react a little more.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Yeah, let me watch him.

SPEAKER_02 46:16

Yeah, I I like I just watched it again quickly and it uh yeah, he puts his head back.

SPEAKER_01 46:24

He does? Okay. Yeah, he he reacts. That's sufficient. Yeah. Yeah, it works. And then we get the sweet Well, we get a quick shot at Ilya's butt for just a second.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

Oh, fire! Fire Alright, so now everyone, if you haven't had enough of my mirror obsession, my art obsession, I would like everyone to stay seated. Gather around. Gather around the fireplace for my fire obsession. Uh Natalie and I are now going to perform for you Eternal Flame.

SPEAKER_03 46:59

Close your eyes.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

Everyone fucking look in your eyes. Um, so my my gen Xness has been obsessed with the appearance of fire and flame that starts with the lighter clicking in episode one, right? So we have episode one, the lighter click. Episode two, which is where we are now, is there's fire in Shane's bedroom. Nice fireplace, super swanky. Uh episode four, we get fire in the entryway when Shane comes into Ilya's for the before the tuna meltdown. And there's also a reflection there, but I'm not gonna combine my so good. Ugh. Stop in the body shot! Body shot. Uh episode five, we get fire underneath both televisions during the skip kiss scene. So Shane's at his parents' house, Ilya's at home. Both have fireplaces in those shots. And episode six, the cottage, we have them together at the fire pit. So we've got a little tie-in, my friends, with the fire. So this is my formal request. And now, this is the part where we're not actually going to sing the song, but I do have a formal request for someone to make an edit to Eternal Flame. And if you are not familiar with this song by the Bengals, here are some of the lyrics. I believe it's meant to be, darling. I watch you when you were sleeping, right? Who can picture it? You you're picturing it, aren't you? You belong with me. Do you feel the same? Am I only dreaming? Or is it Am I only dreaming?

SPEAKER_01 48:54

So, yeah, someone make the edit. So make the edit if you can.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

That'd be great.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

The bangles. Make the edit to us.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

No. Please do not. That is absolutely not what should happen. So, and if anyone finds other instances of fire, candles, etc., please let me know. Because I like to have a comprehensive sitch. Sorry. Fire lecture over. Yep. Thank you for coming. We love Ted Talk. We love the fire. We're here for it. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

We hear the mus or the music. We hear the shower turn on.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Mm-hmm. She's laying there. Blissed the fuck out. The fuck out. So his little grin. Are you kidding me? With his little grin. He is pleased with himself. Pleased his punch. He feels uh proud. He feels penetrated. Thank you. Right? He j like the little I mean he watches him go, right? He stares at his butt, watches him go, and just like leans his head back and just in the sauce. Right?

SPEAKER_01 50:08

And then Iliot comes back. Yeah, lays down. And I wanna know. Are these the same sheets? Or did I feel like Shane switched the sheets? I think so too. Huh. Yep, I think so.

SPEAKER_02 50:25

I feel I feel like he did. Headcanon. I feel like headcanon, I feel like he switched the sheets also. Shout out to the fire that is in the reflection of the marble behind the headboard. You're welcome. Um so yeah, so when Ilya comes back.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

You killed me, Hollander.

SPEAKER_02 50:41

I'm dead. You killed me, Hollander, I am dead.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

Which is a parallel to you will murder me. You will murder me? Maybe. Get in. And he was like, okay. Now what?

SPEAKER_02 50:55

God. And I like his little like he he like Ilya resituates and is like rubbing Shane's arm and like moves up. And someone I saw someone point out on threads the other day that it wasn't necessarily the kisses that Shane gives him, it was the hand on the heart, and the hand like maybe touching his necklace that did Ilya in, and that that's where like the look of panic comes from. Um I mean, I think probably the combination of it all is probably too much for him.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Um, because he says worth the wait, and then Shane goes all baby girl again, and he's just like, yeah, bitch. Oh kiss it. The kiss on the forehead, I think, is what like really sets him over the edge.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

Yeah, yeah. Can I I have another confession?

unknown 51:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

I hate forehead kisses. I hate them.

SPEAKER_01 51:51

I I'm indifferent.

SPEAKER_02 51:53

Are you? Because I feel like so many people on, especially on the interwebs, oh yeah, are like, oh my god, all I need today is a forehead kiss and a cup of tea or something. I'm like, I would rather you fucking pour the boiling tea over my head than give me a forehead kiss.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

Yeah, no. Jordan might do it sometimes, but it's not like could we give you a forehead?

SPEAKER_02 52:15

It's usually just like being silly or like I'm above him, and I'm just like, Yeah, no, I just get away from me. I can't.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

I think the way that Shane did it is probably the the way that I would like that that would be fine.

SPEAKER_02 52:31

Well, and that's just that like in that context, different. But in like a normal, like every it gives it, I don't know. It's you know, everybody has their icks, and that that's just one of my that's one of my little icks. I don't know. Alright, no forehead kisses for you. Noted. Sorry. So if we ever meet IRL, which won't happen because I never leave my. You better wear a hat. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if I got in public? I just have like a hard hat on. I'm like, hey everybody. And every time you get close to me, I'm just like, ah damn it!

SPEAKER_00 53:03

Default again.

unknown 53:05

Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 53:06

I wanted a forehead kiss. And then he says, I should go because he's spooked as fuck. Fuck. He's got feelings. He's he was supposed to fuck Shane and not want him anymore. Yep. It was that was he was supposed to fuck him out of his system. That this was this was not part of the plan.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

He's been waiting for this. This was like the he reached this was it. There was like a roadmap, and at first it got snowed out on the roadmap, and then he waited for two years for the roadmap, and then he finally got there and he did the thing, and now the thing is over, he's supposed to be done, and he wants to stay.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

And in the book, he gets up and he's so freaked out and he's so like panicking that he's just grabbing his shit, and that's why the next shot is them in the stairwell, because he's literally trying to get out of there so fast that he doesn't even have his shoes on. So he gets to the bottom of the stairs and realizes I guess I should put my fucking shoes on.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

He's like got all of his shit. And he's like, Oh, I guess I should put my pants on. He like, he he throws his jacket at Shane. He's like, carry this.

SPEAKER_01 54:19

Yeah. Or Shane grabbed it and was like, I'll carry this for you. Right. I can see him grabbing that.

unknown 54:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:24

And we have the conversation about Sochi, so we're setting the stage for um for the Olympics coming up, and also start seeing Shane asking questions. Yes, much too. Inquiring, yeah. Yeah, inquiring about Ilya, trying trying to get a peek behind the proverbial curtain. You know, and tries to relate. And I think this also goes back to their conversation on the rooftop at the end of episode one. Right. You know, Shane is just another example of Shane just really not understanding where Ilya is coming from, what his life experience is, and even though he's trying to ask questions to to learn about Ilya, it's it's almost like he still doesn't comprehend the weight of what those questions are. No. Because for him, it's not like that.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

No, he just he can't conceive of a difference as drastic as what they're experiencing. He's he's got in his head that you know, you have parents and you know, he can't even conceive of maybe the differences of living in Russia, much less down to the level of what happens inside a family home or or whatever. And he's you know, he still doesn't even know at this point about Ilya's mom.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

Which Ilya very smoothly skirts, avoids.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

Your parents. And he's like, my dad, my brother my brother, or my dad may be my brother.

SPEAKER_02 56:01

Mm-hmm. Just and the whole time keeping himself busy and mixing up his shoes, looking down.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

He's not he knows if he looks up, he's just gonna be like, uh Give me some of that.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

I want some sugar. Um yeah, and when he does, when he does finally look up, it's to be coy. And it's you know, he kind of does his little Playboy stance and leans back. And I'm sorry, but baby girl sitting there and holding that jacket for dear life, please with the hood up. Are you kidding me, sweet pea?

SPEAKER_01 56:42

Oh, that hoodie's the that hoodie color is sold out on at Abercrawby. Oh yeah. I'm gonna get it in a different color.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

I don't judge. Yeah, our friend Max got it in Leopard, so I'm I'm completely on board with that. I'm yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_01 57:00

And then he says, My parents are excited for me, and he said, Excited for what? Bronze medal? He says, You're such an asshole. And we get do you remember when I made you come hands-free? Such a good treat. Such a good treat. And then the sweetest kiss ever, holy shit. And I love the the story of this kiss. I love that it was it was too much too soon, but it also is exactly enough at exactly the right time. Correct, correct.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

Because I I I do remember watching this the first time, and you know, you've registered, okay, this is their first time together, and um you register the panic on Ilya's part. And when you register his panic, and then you couple it with this and the softness of it and the obvious connection that he's allowing the two of them to have. It's like, wait a minute, you just you just panicked the fuck and like ran down the stairs with your shoes basically falling off, and now you're gonna kiss him like that.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

Well, now he feels like he is uh more in control of the situation. He's got the upper hand. Yeah, he was definitely too vulnerable, yeah. Too it was it was too much exposed up there. And now that he's down, he's back in his element. He already just chirped him real quick. So he's like, all right, come here.

SPEAKER_02 58:34

Yeah, yeah. I can give you one of these. Oh my god, such a good trick. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_01 58:38

I'm gonna watch it again for science.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

Just and I can't and Shane says nothing back. He just like two kisses, and he closes the eyes, takes a deep breath, doesn't even hand over the coat.

SPEAKER_01 58:54

I think it's a great, it's another parallel to uh the way that the first hookup ended in 1410. Because remember, he was like, Holy shit. Yes, yes. Like anxious, and then this time he puts his head back, closes his eyes, and is just savoring. Yeah. Yeah. The first time I think was more like, holy shit, I can't believe that fucking happened. And this time it's like, holy shit, I can't believe that fucking happened.

SPEAKER_02 59:27

Yeah, yeah. And that that is a pretty big difference. Those two. Very true. Those two are drastic differences. Yeah, I agree. True.

SPEAKER_01 59:35

Oh, Shane, baby girl. Well, I think this is a good place to stop because next is uh a time jump, winter 2014. So we're gonna this is when we go to Sochi, right? We cut to Sochi. Yeah. Sochi black mold shit. That shit was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

I can't believe it. I know tomorrow. That is tomorrow. That's the next time. That's the next time. So we have to move into our thick recommendations.

unknown 1:00:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:08

Fan, fan, fan, fan, thick, fan, thick. But stuff. Uh do you I'm gonna go first. Yeah, that's cool with you. So mine was recommended to me from a friend of mine. Uh my oh, it's making me sorry, of course. AO3 is asking me to accept. Why does it do this sometimes? So mine is called Corner of the World by I think it's Barry C Love. That's my that's my guess. And the summary is Ilya doesn't even realize when Arthur slips from his thoughts, there's no sharp turn, no clear moment where the article stops being about a little boy who loves reptiles and starts being about the man lying beside him in bed. It just happens the way his mind always seems to find Shane eventually, like water finding its lowest point. Or a character study on Shane's undiagnosed autism.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:02

Oh. Oh. It'll give you feels. It'll give you feels.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

Well, that's that's so funny because yours is like so sweet and nice. It gives you feels, and then mine is not safe for work.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

Not at all. Please make sure you have to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:19

But it was so funny. It was so funny the way that I found it because I had gotten on threads, and someone was just like, This this should be part of like some like threads after dark or something. But I saw it in the morning, so I was like, I'll read this now. Who cares? And it's like first thing in the morning, and I start reading this, and I was like, Oh, and then you and then you sent it to me. I think it was and I started reading it, and I was like, I cannot read this, and I work at home. But it's a shorty, it's not super long, so it's a quick read. Uh, but I uh it's called Take One for the Team. The title is diabolical.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:54

Fucking fucking diabolical.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Um, it is uh it is Shane. It is a dream that Shane has. That's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

That's what you're gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:12

I'm gonna say gangbang on the fucking podcast. Well, I guess I said it. He has a dream about the him about him and the centaurs. And it's really funny because it's obviously a dream. Yeah, so it's not real. So nobody panic. It's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:32

Channeling the Bob New Heart show. That was a Gen X reference for all of you out there. Or what was the other one? Not Dynasty. What was the other one where was there there was a big dream sequence? Who shot Jr.?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:44

What's that show? I don't know. I don't remember anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Somebody will know.

unknown 1:02:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

Will's gonna know. Will will know. Yeah. Uh so yeah, check out both of those. Uh depending on how you're feeling, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

We contain multitudes. We contain multitudes. That is the important thing. That is going to be the new.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

And then so does Shane.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

Oh my god. Uh Nelly. Fucking hell. Oh. All right. Moving on to our yeets. This week, we are yeeting out. That that was my sound effect. That was all for you guys. We are yeeting out the gatekeeping and the fandom.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

The trying to take ownership, the trying to carve, you know, carve out a corner and and keep it all to yourself. Because we have established that we all love when new fans come and start pointing out things that they've seen or new ways to look at things. Um interpretations of new interpretations, new ways to be creative or inspired by the show, the actors, the the people who have made the show, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:01

So we're you just makes me think of that that guy that got kicked out of that bar in California or something, and he just wanted to go. Yeah. Yeah. And it was just like, don't do that. There's enough room for everybody. There's enough room for everybody. Everyone can belong here. Everyone deserves to be here.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

We have chairs, you sit with us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:24

Yeah. Everybody. And do you want to take our yeet in?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:28

Yeah. Madam.

unknown 1:04:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:31

So our yeet, our yeet in this week is um to piggyback off of the no gatekeeping. Um, I wanted to take a moment to highlight a lot of uh or some of the podcasts that exist because of the show. Um I had asked for a list, and you guys were all amazing, gave me a bunch of podcasts. Um, but I wanted to kind of solely focus on the ones that were created specifically because of heated rivalry and focus mainly on heated rivalry. We will do highlights of podcasts that do like special things. We'll do that on another episode. But yeah, in terms of the list of podcasts, there's some that have are already out, some that have been out for a while. Um, where I feel like we kind of are like right in the middle of like where everybody is. Yeah, it's all different, like pacing.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

Yeah. Some people have a schedule. We do not have a schedule.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:23

We do not, we are not professionals.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:26

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

Um, but I just want to list them out really quick. So if you are looking for more heated rivalry content and you want to hear more viewpoints and opinions and all that kind of stuff, there's a podcast for you out there. Yes, in addition to us, or in place of us if you want to find somebody instead of us. Hey, yeah, whatever. Uh, but we have Believe in Anything Pod. We love those guys, they're so great. Uh, Loon Call, Tonsil Hockey, Everyone Deserves Sunshine, Since Rookie Season, Long Game, Crazy. Raving rivalry, radio rivalry, and heated yapping. I know that Radio Rivalry just released their first episode today, March 19th, and Heated Yapping has not released anything yet. I think they just like announced that they were starting.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:16

So starting, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:17

So they don't have anything yet, but make sure that you go and you follow all these podcasts. Um everybody is so great. It's so cool to see how we all have different angles and viewpoints and and different ways that we see everything. And it's it's such a great way to to be able to look at things from a different perspective. Um because this show is changing everybody. Yeah. And and to see how such great ways. Yeah. Yeah. And to see how it's it's spread out across the fandom. I mean, how many was that? Was that one, two, three, four, five, six, eight, eight thousand? It's like it's like ten podcasts that exist just because of this show. Like it's awesome. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:02

So I mean, imagine like that that's I mean, we joke about how much we yap, but there's there's so many important things to be said, and like we have a lot of fun talking to each other, and we do this because we're friends and we enjoy talking to each other and having an excuse to talk to each other, frankly. Um, but you know, that's again like everybody's gonna talk about and focus on different things, so give it a try, and you're gonna find, you know, other perspectives and things that we certainly have missed because I spend way too much time looking at mirrors and fire.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

So and I do want to specifically shout out Radio Rivalry, which is the one that just released their first episode today. Um, they are a really cool idea, concept. It's uh if Heated Rivalry was a 1920s radio show with like sound effects and everything. Oh my gosh. But they're gonna be it's made by loons for loons, and so there's a Google form that if you want to participate and you want to be a part of a future episode and read uh for a character, the Google form is there. Fill it out, let Tiff know what you want to do because this the only way that that podcast can continue is if we all take it. Is if people, right? And I know that there's a lot of people out there that want to either get on their own podcast and yap or in some way be a part of it. And I think that this is a perfect way to do it. So thank you, Tiff, for doing this. I think it's so cool. I feel so I feel like why didn't I know about this already? Um, but yeah, everybody please check it out. Make sure you follow them. Make sure if you are interested that you sign up because they're gonna do every scene. Every scene.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:44

It's gonna be that's so cute. It's great. That's so cute. Oh my gosh, I can't. I'm I have so many scenes that I'm like, oh my god, that one's gonna be hilarious! Yeah, so make sure you gotta do it too.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:53

I d I already signed up, so I'm excited. Oh, did you really? Oh my god. I did it right away. I was just like, dude, hell yeah. That's hilarious. It was so good.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:00

It was so good. That's so great. All right, perfect.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

So, yeah, shout out to all of you guys. Thank you for being in existence and for having the audacity to create a podcast because all of your voices deserve to be heard. Keep going.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

Yeah, right on. All right, until next time. Good night, Nat. Good night, Liz. Good night, Liz.