Yeeted Rivalry
Two loons from the Heated Rivalry Fandom, join us for yapping about queerness, music, and micro-moments that scratch your brain.
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Yeeted Rivalry
Are You a Hunter? or a Skipper?
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Hello Yeeters! We are SKIPPING on into episode 3, where we meet the most essential couple and see the most essential story to the progression of Shane and Ilya's relationship. Without SKIP, we have no cottage.
So come along with us as we explore the story that started it all.
FICS:
Nat -
The Hottest Cold War by Vee (Vera_DragonMuse)
https://archiveofourown.org/works/78232066/chapters/205061921
Liz -
Blizost by princepixel
https://archiveofourown.org/works/80586441/chapters/211645091
Oh my God, why did that scare me so much?
SPEAKER_03It's been a long time.
SPEAKER_01I know. Been a long time. Shouldn't left you. Left you. Um What up, gang? We're back. We're back. It's fine. We're fine, guys. Everyone relax. Hey everyone. Just it's okay. It's been a minute and we don't know. We we don't know how to do the talking.
SPEAKER_03But welcome back to Yeeted Rivalry.
SPEAKER_01Yay, yeeted.
SPEAKER_03We got Liz here. Say hi, Liz.
SPEAKER_01Hi.
SPEAKER_03And then me, your favorite co-host.
SPEAKER_01It's true. That's accurate. That's an accurate description.
SPEAKER_03I feel like I would like everybody to know that I have a Slim Gym here. This has been a hot topic of conversation.
SPEAKER_01It has been. I just I don't understand the love of the Slim Gym. I know a lot of people who love the Slim Gym. Yes. I it just does not.
SPEAKER_03My other favorite thing is at the very top of the packaging, it says it says grip and rip.
SPEAKER_01Ew. That's terrible. There is nothing. Sometimes you gotta grip it and rip it. I know, but not in this context. Oh god, if Gerard was in here, he'd be like, that's it!
SPEAKER_02Dude! Dude, that's totally it. Please take a break.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. Anywho. So we are back. Thank you all for being patient. And Liz is gonna crack her soda.
SPEAKER_01I am because Nat Nat ran out. It's fine. She has her water. I have my water. She's hydrating. Here, here we go. Oh, that was a good one. That was a really I'm very proud of that one. I need everyone to know that I'm I'm I'm having a peach and clementine San Pellegrino.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_01And I feel like this is my fancy seltzer. This is my high class seltzer.
SPEAKER_03You should have put it in like a fancy wine glass.
SPEAKER_01I'm not that glassy. Trick yourself. Trick yourself. Treat yourself and trick yourself.
SPEAKER_03All right, y'all. We're we are here. Now we can dive in. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01Go take care.
SPEAKER_03What's your reheat? I know the answer. You don't have a reheat.
SPEAKER_01So I know. I well, I confessed, I confessed to Natalie that and I I had some like pent-up guilt issues, which go catholicism. She's fine. She did. She talked me down. So technically, my most recent reheat is watching the first part of episode three, which is the episode we're going to talk about this evening. Um, and I was bemoaning the fact that I haven't reheated the show in so long. But then Natalie, my faithful companion here, talked me down and reminded me that some shit's been going down. I had school vacation week, I've been sick, demands of life, whatever. Not a ton of time to sit down and watch old shows, new shows, anything. So I have forgiven myself and moved on.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_01Natalie, what about you, my love?
SPEAKER_03I also had not watched anything in a long time. However, earlier this week, I did watch episode five and six. And it was lovely. And I was posting on threads while I was watching it. And I just was like, you know what? I'm just gonna post like I used to. Bringing it back, baby. Take that. Suck it. Um but yeah, can confirm if it's been a long time since you've watched it and you watch it and they do love like nice things to each other. It gives you the tummy feelings again. It does. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I what did I see? I saw just like a um a clip or something that someone did, and it was Shane having gay panic. And for like the him looking at his reflection, and I did like I had that like little moment of being like, oh, it's baby boy, my baby boy's so nervous. And it was it was nice. So I feel like I I don't know. I'm I'm almost excited to like do a full rewatch and see. I just want, you know what I want? The thing that I want, the moment that I want to hit the same as it did the first time.
SPEAKER_03Hmm.
SPEAKER_01You want to guess? The club? Fuck you! I'm so mad that you guessed it. Um probably because we've talked about it too many times.
SPEAKER_03But when the beat dropped for that tattoo song and like the The Sean of Ilya walking towards the door, like just it is I am sorry.
SPEAKER_01And I when we get to this episode on the podcast and I trauma dump the impact of that song on my life. It's gonna take us like five weeks to get through. It's gonna take it. It's gonna oh fuck me, it's gonna take forever. But I that that high that I had when I saw that scene and heard that song, I will be chasing that the rest of my life.
SPEAKER_03Oh I I think I literally just sat there like this. Yes, I did I the whole time audibly gasped after that.
SPEAKER_01I well, I just I lost it. So we need to focus this evening because it's time for skip. It's time for skip. And if you are a skipper of the skip, you're not invited. Yeah, you're just invited.
SPEAKER_03No, no fun yapping for you. Go away.
SPEAKER_01No fun no fun yapping. Listen, I respect all your choices, I really do. However, you can't skip the skip.
SPEAKER_03You can't and I and I will say for skippers of the skip who do want to continue to listen to our show. Yes. My hope is I'm not sure where this is going.
SPEAKER_01I'm very nervous. Go ahead. It's gonna be fine. You're so pretty. Your hair looks so cute tonight. Go ahead. It does. It's like very it's like a nice skip.
SPEAKER_03I hope that going through the episode with us helps you learn to appreciate the skip and understand why you shouldn't skip the skip.
SPEAKER_01Do you know what I love about this? What I love that you're being very thoughtful and trying to help others. And also, I love that you think that we can do that for people. I think that's so optimistic of you. I mean I mean, who knows?
SPEAKER_03Just who knows?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03Maybe our enthusiasm for it will make them understand.
SPEAKER_01Bitch, you don't even know my enthusiasm.
SPEAKER_03I also think, too, that the people there's a lot of people that have never read the books at all or know anything about the books. And so I know that for me, when I first watched it, it didn't really make sense to me at first because I was like, what is happening? So I can understand why some people may might be skip a verse in initially if they don't know anything about the game changer universe.
SPEAKER_01However, you it's grow up, grow up, grow, grow, grow up, grow up, we cannot have one without the other. Exactly. And I feel like we should say right up front, first of all, wait, hold on. I have multiple things. Oh Jesus. Have you finished the book? No, I haven't even picked it up. Oh my god. I understand. I get it.
SPEAKER_03Some books just do that. Some do that. Well, and it's sitting on the shelf in front of the couch, like it's in the left built-in, and I look at it every day. And I'm just like you asshole.
SPEAKER_01It's mocking you. I understand.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Everybody, I just got to just over the halfway point of reading Game Changer, and then all of a sudden I couldn't do it anymore. Also, I think too, I think it was a lot of what was going on because like I had all that shit going on with Gerard in March.
unknownYes.
SPEAKER_03And so I like it kind of like took away my time. I didn't really have the time to like sit and be like, I'm gonna go into another world with my little book.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Ooh, this is happening. So I need, I actually need maybe you and I should do like a mini book club because I want to actually read the physical book because I've only ever listened to it. And we all know how much respect I have for audiobook narrators. Because I do. Our good friend Nat has done dipped her little her little pinky toe in some narration herself. Um, however, the game changer's narration leaves some things to be desired. Uh, and I would like to read it with like the Scott and Kip show in mind instead of whatever.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's I'm not even I won't even go there because I do not want to hear Kip's accent. We've talked about this before.
SPEAKER_01We did, I know. It's just it you can't unhear it, is really what it is. And again, okay. Also, oh look, yeah, I have oh, what?
SPEAKER_03I have compression socks on.
SPEAKER_01Oh, why? What's happening?
SPEAKER_03Do they feel good? Yeah, they feel great. Yeah. So Gerard bought them um for his his injury. Uh, and he bought an extra pair to have as like backup, and so I was like, I want to put them on. Oh man, they feel good. Yeah. I'll send you the link. You should buy them.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh, that sounds great.
SPEAKER_03You can wear them all day.
SPEAKER_01I used to I um I used to since we're going off on a side quest here, so I used to do um a bunch of traveling for work, and so I would be on like 25 hour flights and whatever. And that's one of the like things that you can do because you don't get to like walk around and whatever as much. So I would have on my like little like compression socks, and I had my little like fanny pack of like extra moisturizer for my face, and you know, you just you do those things when you have to.
SPEAKER_03Lotion lotion is clutch. It is clutch.
SPEAKER_01I mean, that now I see people who wear like the under-eye stuff. Um I mean you you poke fun, but you get off a flight that's 24 hours, mm-mm. Mm-mm. Your skin is gonna pay. Ain't no amount of aquafour is gonna save you. So you gotta get moisturizer up in there.
SPEAKER_03So back on the fact that I can't finish the book. Oh yeah, up there. I my goal is to finish the book before we finish the episode here.
SPEAKER_01I like goals. Okay. So you have like six weeks left. You're good.
SPEAKER_03You got plenty of time.
SPEAKER_01You're good.
SPEAKER_03But all right, so episode begins, and we hear Von Vonnie talking about ice cream. Yep. Um, they complain about, or he says something like don't I think it's Scott that says it. Like, isn't it weird that we're getting ice cream in the middle of winter in Russia?
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes. Um, yeah. So when they first sit down, I don't know if this is gonna make you mad or excited, or nothing. Uh the fleece, the legendary release the fleece. Um there's a reflection of Shane in the glass of the restaurant.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. The payoff of the face you're making. Oh come on. You don't get to go from making that face to fucking saying that you think you no, don't steal my thunder. You didn't know it. You sit there and go.
SPEAKER_03You just found out, oh my god, it's so cool. Oh my god, I hate you. Reflective.
SPEAKER_01I take back everything nice I ever said for the last 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so we're at the Olympics. We're at the Olympics, and now we're seeing the conversation that was happening outside um the shop, which we saw at the beginning, or not at the beginning uh in episode two. And then they decide that they're gonna go talk to Hollander. So they go in.
SPEAKER_01I'd like to remember, I want to remind everyone that I when I saw the stills of this, that I thought that Vonnie was Kip. Because I had no context. And I was like, I was like, first of all, the backwards hat on Kip doesn't make sense. Second of all, why are they low-key matching? Like my brain could not make it into anyone else. But like Scott would absolutely not be in a scene with anybody. Asshole. Anyway, go ahead, please. No, you're good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but then they cut immediately to the conversation about Shane's friend. Like they kind of cut over all the initial conversation that we see in episode two, and then Vaughn makes his like cute comment, so sweet, like fucking balls of steel man. Like, I just won't pinch your cheeks, buddy. I mean, what an ally, right?
SPEAKER_01He's just so like super cash about it. Yeah, and he's got his cutie backwards hat. Yes, he's just like, I love him. Let's go. He's like, I'm gonna go to battle for you. Meanwhile, Scott is having gay froyo panic. Mm-hmm. Full on. The the eye, I mean, the eyes like darting around. Come on.
SPEAKER_03He's literally like, oh shit, can they feel it?
SPEAKER_01Did I order the wrong thing? Sh, this did I wear my gay shirt? Oh no. I wear my gay shirt every day. Did I wear the shirt that just says gay with an arrow pointing up?
SPEAKER_03But then we hear the song opening for the first time. Oh, so good. As it zooms in on Scott. But I do have to say, when I was first watching the show, because Gerard and I like we binged, you know, the first the five episodes, um, because we were going through them so fast, you know, watch the first episode, watch the second episode, and then the third episode starts, and it's the conversation happening again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03And I remember literally think sitting up and saying, Did did I rewind it? Did I what happened? And I literally had to like pause it and look at the screen and be like, Episode three. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Right. Well, because there was also the teaser where they didn't release the name until a certain point of the release of the show. So they had released the titles of each episode except that one. And so there was all kinds of like speculation and stuff online about what the title was gonna be, and did it was all asterisks, and it was okay, is there an asterisk for each letter, or is it just kind of like uh generic notes? Did they ever figure that out? Um I don't remember, I'm sure somebody would else would know the timing, but I want to say it was maybe a couple days before that they released that it was called Hunter. And so everyone had emotions and feelings about the fact that, okay, so it's gonna be a Scott Hunter focused episode. What is that actually?
SPEAKER_03And then they changed the name to something else because now it's it's all believe in anything.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, I'm so wait. It is it is because of the song, duh. Yeah. So what am I so yeah, so then I guess maybe it had the same number of letters as like the asterisk for Hunter. But at any rate, um But yeah, so people having like feelings about the fact that it wasn't an episode focused on Shane and Ilya had to have a moment. Had to have a little debrief with I mean, so did I, honestly, because I was like, wait, what do you mean there's six episodes and I don't there's like one, and one of them isn't for them. And one of them isn't for but I need But it's like it is for them.
SPEAKER_03It is for them, it is for them, you guys. It is we do not have cottage without skip. Correct. You must skip to the cottage.
SPEAKER_01Was that like a vampire accent? What did I just even do? I don't know. That was not good.
SPEAKER_03I was making an accent to Gerard last night too. I was like, okay, it's gonna be fine, don't worry about it.
SPEAKER_01My so my children have started to try and do like a Russian accent because they because of it's all it's YouTube. I blame YouTube, and I gotta tell you, they're pretty good. It's a little it's a little unsettling. Like they'll come in and ask for food. I can't do it for shit, but they'll come in and like ask for a snack or ask for help with something, and I'm like, you gotta let them listen to Ilya. Motherfucker, how do you know how to like have an shit?
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. So zoom in on Scott and then another cut. Time time change four months ago, and we get this beautiful fucking shot of Times or uh not Times Square.
unknownOh god, I love it.
SPEAKER_03Beautiful shot of Central Park in the fall. The colors are incredible. Like, oh my god. Every time I see that shot, I'm just like, I'll just pause it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's that it doesn't look real, and the only disappointing thing about it is that you have to be up high to like truly enjoy it. Right. And I feel like I would love to know. See, this is more like me being a like statistics geek, but I want to know if like the Empire State Building has more visitors in the fall because people want to see the leaves.
SPEAKER_03You know, we could probably find that out.
SPEAKER_01Right? I feel like it has to be online somewhere.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna geek out about that later. Yeah, why not? Why not? Cut over and then we start hearing Man in the Crease running their fucking mouth again talking shit.
SPEAKER_01Why does it all the fucking time? I just I can't like I hear the guy's voice that does Man in the Crease and it fills me with a little bit of rage. I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't matter. Doing it right, whoever you are.
SPEAKER_01Yes, like as soon as I hear it, I'm like, oh this motherfucker. Like I can't um I would like to point out I have here in my notes, hold on. Where is it? I thought I I thought I wrote something clever. I don't think I wrote anything clever. There was a lot of discussion when the show came out about Scott and his run.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, I literally have that of it written here, like his running. It's so good, but it's so funny.
SPEAKER_01And this and this is what I have to say about that. I want every single motherfucker who has to criticize that gorgeous human specimen running.
SPEAKER_03I want your bitch ass to put on that outfit and run look and run and run full speed.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_03They weren't like, just make it look like you're running. They were like, you have to make it look like you are outrunning the shit that these people are saying to you.
SPEAKER_01Listen, this this is right up there with that. Like, I think the Olympics would be better if they had like an average person competing against an Olympian. So we really had an idea of how oh how talented they were.
SPEAKER_03I have an idea sitting on my couch. I'm like, couldn't be me.
SPEAKER_01Could not would never be me. If that dude, he would first of all, he would smoke me. He I he'd be a block ahead of me. Second of all, dude is made he's made of like marble.
SPEAKER_03He's like a all right, all right, Twilight. Calm down.
SPEAKER_01I'm sorry, but like criticizing somebody's run, I can't. You're dead to me. Yeah. I'm over it. Sorry, that was my little diatribe on the run.
SPEAKER_03So after his Phoebe run. Oh my god, not you.
SPEAKER_01Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_03That was funny though, you gotta admit. That was a good one.
SPEAKER_01I like that one.
SPEAKER_03I feel like that's the funniest way to talk about it because it's like it's so unserious. You're right, because like because the way she was running was so unserious, and the way he was running probably felt so unserious when he was doing it, you know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, but I could never, I just never I couldn't. I just couldn't.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01First, first of all, I wouldn't have been able to put the shirt on. The shirt was so tight.
unknownI wouldn't know.
SPEAKER_03You didn't you didn't realize they poured they poured him into that.
SPEAKER_01You know what he looks like? He looks like one of those like the soft serve cones that's like dunked in chocolate. That's what it looks like. That is legit. Oh my god. I cannot imagine that that was comfortable to get onto his body. Anyway.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I digress. He ends up in front of straw plus berry. And you know what sounds good after getting roasted on a podcast? Some of the some fruit water.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Oh god, the accuracy. Oh my god. So good. Um, did you notice that when he pauses in front of the building? It was probably already there. I don't know that it necessarily would have been intentional, but right above straw and berry. There's a little yin yang. Little pieces fitting. Together.
SPEAKER_00I thought that was cute.
SPEAKER_01Isn't that nice? Yeah. Yay! Yay for two sides of the same coin.
SPEAKER_03I also love this because this scene is the beginning of the game changer book.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03Because Kip is asleep and they don't talk about this, but Kip is hungover as fuck. Fuck.
SPEAKER_01Not good. Hung over at work. No bueno.
SPEAKER_03But it's funny because him sleeping, Scott clearly finds it like so endearing.
SPEAKER_01Completely.
SPEAKER_03Because he likes chuckling, he's looking at him, and it's just like you're adorable.
SPEAKER_01I realize.
SPEAKER_03I understand. But I mean if you're if you're really fucking tired and you're really hungover.
SPEAKER_01But like, really? But wouldn't your ass tip over? Real I just logistically, just from a physics standpoint, I was imagining that was not plausible. Also in the books, do you remember? Because I do not I don't believe it's art that Kip is study. I I want to say it's architecture in the books.
SPEAKER_03I don't know if it's architecture, but it's definitely not art. It's I don't think it's art school.
SPEAKER_01It's yeah, because um I remember in Common Goal, Kyle is studying art. And that's the connection that he has with Eric, because Eric collects art and Kyle is going to school for I think, if I'm correct. I'm missing your arm, your arm is disappearing on the video. Um but I I wondered why. I mean, I guess it's because of the gallery scene. Like they end up going to the gallery together, so it makes sense that he's you know an art student. But I thought in the books it was architecture.
SPEAKER_03I feel I'm so dumb because I literally went downstairs to get everything and I was like, I gotta grab my book. That's all right. And I just have this from last time we recorded.
SPEAKER_01That's all right. That ain't no thing. I mean Do you have the information? Mm-hmm. These can be burning questions that we answer next time. But yes, yes, yes. I was just curious. So he wakes him up. Like me being there with my cough.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. And he asks what he's got. And then Kip says, what is it? Like very, very average smoothies with deeply stupid names or something like that. I was like, that's that's clever. That's cute.
SPEAKER_01That's it's clever, and also that definitely describes every smoothie place I've ever been in in my life. Is so true.
SPEAKER_03That's that's their shtick. Um Scott Scott also says, I'm easy when they're talking about what to order.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, We know, sir. Say it again, but slower. Hello.
SPEAKER_03Yes, please. Also, when he asks about what he what he gets, he says that he adds banana. The extra banana is something that happens later with Scott ordering it from him at a later date. But uh it's add banana. Blue moon over Brooklyn does not come with banana. Stop asking them. Stop going into straw plus berry and saying I want the blue one with the banana, because you're just confusing them.
SPEAKER_01Have we have we established is it straw plus berry or straw and berry?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Do we can't tell us? I don't know. I don't know. I feel like it's never said, so I would kind of like the answer to that because saying straw plus berry messes with my mind. I just want to call it straw and berry.
SPEAKER_03I mean, straw and berry sounds better, but I also could see somebody just being completely insufferable and being like, no, it's boss.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. I mean, shit. Babe, the number of things that people are gonna be insufferable about. Oh god, she's eating a slim gem. Snap into a slim gym.
SPEAKER_02Snap into a slim gym, grip it and rip it, baby.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Lord help us. Um, I love in this this little moment that Kip is sneaking little looky loose. Like, sorry, um, that he just like can't help himself. You see his little like eyes dart, and it's because that shirt is poured on. So what else would he be looking at? Obviously.
SPEAKER_03It's it's sticky, so his eyes are like look.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, must look.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but it's I was magnetized. What do you want? And then Scott saying his name with that with that hard P.
unknownUgh.
SPEAKER_03Like theirs will be later.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_01It's like a runaway train. You missed you missed me. Indeed, miss you. I missed you so much. Um, I also love I we're gonna talk about the name thing in just a second, because I have some things to say about that. I love that they both have scruff slash facial hair. I love it. It just I love I love a nice scruff. I feel like that it's like not forced because I feel like sometimes they do like the forced scruff, and it just looks like it's that like stage makeup.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's because you're the the characters that you're trying to portray aren't realistic, and right, and in this, it's it's all it's all very approachable and realistic. So to me, like instead of having to like make somebody like look gay, it's just like these are normal human people. Yes, and I love it, and I love yes, that's what all that's what all of us are, just normal human people, normal people living their lives, walking around.
SPEAKER_01In the book, in the book, Scott is described as blonde hair, blue eyes, uh, could be a model, could be a firefighter, could be, I forget what the other things on the list were. And fuck it if I care if he matches that description, because that is the new Scott Hunter for me. And it's just like with Shane and Ilia, aren't there eye colors supposed to be swapped or something like that? Swapped or something like that, yeah. Um so I do love the scruff. Can I get on my soapbox about the kip and the way he says it? Thank you. Go ahead. All right. I hate the hard P only in this setting. Other settings are perfectly fine and acceptable. But the har it just it gave me the ick. Like the way it it felt um uh it felt like the way like a teacher would say it like if he was in trouble, to me at least. That being said, my friend, and I know you know this feeling because I've experienced this in my life recently, that there's some people who can say your name and it's like neutral and they're just saying your name and who cares. But there's some people who when they say your name, you're like hello. Yes, and that's how Kit feels when Scott says his name. And I find it super adorable, and it re- it it they talk about it, right? Like they talk about it in subsequent scenes that they've kind of kept count of how many times he said his name. And then he talks to Elena about the fact that Scott knows his name and has said it, and he's like, and it just like go, I just can't get it up. And I'm like, yes, honey, I understand that I it's driving me insane, I deeply understand that. Because like my best friend calls me Elizabeth, and I'm like, and she always has, and it's fine. Certain other people call me Elizabeth, and I'm like, I need a minute.
SPEAKER_02Elizabeth.
SPEAKER_01Not you. Get away from me. Not you. Oh god, here she goes. Go ahead. Try it again. Try it again. Elizabeth. Nope, didn't do it. Nothing. Elizabeth. Now that worked.
SPEAKER_03No, but don't isn't your favorite name Lizzie?
SPEAKER_01No. God no. Have we met? I literally, literally, that is that is my gift to you. I allow you to call me Boston Lizzie for the shtick. But otherwise, the name Lizzie is the worst.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but Boston Lizzie's so funny. Boston Lizzie's super funny. It's so good. So good. So good.
SPEAKER_01Sometimes when I feel like speaking in the third person, especially on threads, I refer to myself as Boston Lizzie. You should. It's enjoyable. Do it for the bit. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03100%. It's like when I it's like when I told you when Gerard when I was talking to him about Lizzie, the other girl that I know. And he was like, that's not no. And I was like, no, Liz would murder me. I love it. And he was like, yeah, I thought so.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I love that he knows that. He's so sweet. Bless his heart. I think I referred to myself as Lizzie at one point in front of the kids, and they were like, who? Like they finally just acknowledged the fact that I have a name that's not mama. And then they're like, they hear Lizzie and they're like, who's that bitch? Because she she'll live. Not her. We don't know her. Get out of town. Um, yes.
SPEAKER_03So that's my that's my soapbox about the kip. Um understandable. I think to me, I look to me, it seems like Scott is really taken aback and off guard. I don't think he expected to have whatever feelings he's having looking at this person behind the smoothie counter. And I also think that Kip is not really a super common name.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03And so I I feel like all of those things together would could culminate in him awkwardly being like Kip.
SPEAKER_02That's true. You know, I will give you that.
SPEAKER_03And then I feel like that's something that you would do, and then you walk out and you're like, fucking, why did I do that? Oh, yeah. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Like, god damn it.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, you could say that shit shit.
SPEAKER_01I literally every interaction and walk away. And I'm like, that was not my best. Not your best work. Not my best work ever.
SPEAKER_02All of my work is my best work, baby. Oh god, shut up. Oh my god, here she goes. I'm so exhausted. Someone help me. Someone help me. Oh, I'm like the I'm the worst now. I'm just like, yep. I did that. Good job, me. That was done. The thing you said. Okay.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01Here we are. Still here.
SPEAKER_02Did you get it all? You want me to say it again?
SPEAKER_01Louder this time, or yeah, all right? Okay, good. Um, so the bl the the smoothie conversation and the consistency of said smoothie, I am convinced that the smoothie that is in the blender looks decent. The smoothie that ends up in the cup that he passes off.
SPEAKER_02That's smoothie has been sitting out.
SPEAKER_03It's horrific. It's so I just if it if it was a real smoothie, oh my god, it had been sitting out for hours. It it was a smoothie As I said earlier, it is fruit water.
SPEAKER_01They they exhum chunky fruit water. Oh god, that's so terrible. But I it it does that's one of those details that just fills me with rage for no good reason what like at all. Because I'm a lover of the smoothie. I love me some fruit mixed with happiness.
SPEAKER_03I can't waste all that money on a on all those smoothies, bro.
SPEAKER_01Honey, then my dudes, add some fucking potato flakes and thicken that shit up.
SPEAKER_03That's fair, right?
SPEAKER_01Come on. I can't.
SPEAKER_03Well, just seeing it like some put some oats in there, some nutritional yeasts.
SPEAKER_01Something. God, anything. Oh, it's just painful. At least I got the the color of the blueberry smoothie, right?
SPEAKER_03I literally have this as a note in all caps. It is not a great smoothie. That is something because before it it says leaves a massive tip. Because he was like, he leaves the tip, and then Kip is like, Oh my god, you can't do that. And he was like, he was like, it's a great smoothie. And I was like, it is not false. No, false. That is inexperienced. One of the first ways that we know for a fact that Scott is interested. That is a shit ass smoothie. That is a shitty smoothie, and he lies. He lies. And then he walks out, and we get our first girl.
SPEAKER_01A girl. So good. I cannot say that word anymore without hearing her in my head. And I love it. It's plus also, where the fuck was she? Like, I love that she just comes out of nowhere and was like there for saw the whole thing.
SPEAKER_03If I remember correctly, in the book, one person would be working the counter and the other person would be in the back doing prep. Okay. And I wanna spause I I know that later in the book there's a time where they go in and there's an employee that closes and like doesn't do any prep. So they end up having to always do a bunch of extra shit. So maybe it was something like that where she was in the back and then she heard the little dang of the door and probably came out just to like make sure that he didn't need help. Right. And then she's like, girl.
SPEAKER_01The delivery is so girl. Ugh. Give her a ribbon, a plaque, a something. Give her a give her a smooch. Give her a little smooch. Because that because then we don't we get a second one? Because then this is the guy. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, the guy in the admiral's hat and the hoodie. Yeah, he comes in, he's just like, what was that for? Oh my god, and then you get her like doing a little her little like a girl a girl. Oh my god, she's so good. And so and I love I love their little friendship. And as little as little as you see of it in the show, you see a lot more of it in the books, and you see some of it too in um uh Maria ends up being is friends also with Kyle. And so you see you learn a little bit more about her in Common Goal. And I just I just love her. I love her as as a character, and I love that she does not give him a fucking inch. Like she's all about like celebrating with him and stuff, but then otherwise she's just like deadpan, and she's like, No, yeah, like please, I don't have time for this. I was like, you're the best, please be my friend.
SPEAKER_03Fucking love you, and it's also fun too when you like make when you make a friend like that through work, yes, you know, yes, right, because like I have so many people that I made, so many people that I've become friends with because we worked at the same place, and we have been friends for way longer than we ever worked at that place. Yeah, oh yeah, like I have so many friends like that. I have so many friends where I have been friends with them physically for like the shortest amount of time, but they're and I like like I have a friend, her name is Gabby. We worked together at a brewery and we were only friends for like maybe four or five months, and then she moved to Atlanta.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I see what you mean.
SPEAKER_03Okay, and that was 10 years ago. Oh, wild, and you're still friends, still great friends. Oh, that's so cute. And I but I have a lot of people like that where it's just like I was friends with them, but now I have I'm still friends with them. But it's also when you make friends where like you're able to just support each other and just go live your life. Like, I don't need you to call me, I don't need you to talk to me all the time. If there's a time where you there's something that makes you think of me, hit me up. But otherwise, I'll fucking cheer on you on, call me if you need anything.
SPEAKER_01Yes, you know that's like that's peak adult friendship learning, I feel because there I have a handful of people who I have that kind of like relationship with where it's like you don't have to talk every day, it's fine, it just things fall back into place. Um but then there are those high maintenance folks who even into adulthood are like if I don't hear from you every day and if I don't know what you ate for breakfast, are we really friends? And I can't the answer is no, no, the answer is deeply no. Based based on your definition, no, no, it's not happening because I don't have time for that shit. No, I love you so hard, but I want to just I will say that's one thing that I did learn from my parents.
SPEAKER_03They they were always like that, just not pushy. Like even when when I was in contact with them and they would come down to Florida because they would come to Florida for their vacations, so it was kind of like a mix of like their vacation and then also being able to see me. Um, but they would go and my dad would text me and he would be like, We're here, we'll be here for six days. You know where we'll be, we'll be on the beach. If you guys want to get dinner, let us know. If you want to come, let us know. But otherwise, that's where we'll be. We love you, and like that's just always how they were. They were never pushy. It was like you live your own life, you have your own shit going on, you know. And so that's just that's just the way that I've always been. And so it always was weird to me when I would see people with family where they were like, Right. The reason to do this, I'm like, I have excuse me.
SPEAKER_01Right. So the reason I'm making the face that I'm making is because I also know the other lore that goes with that particular.
SPEAKER_03So this didn't happen until I became an adult.
SPEAKER_01Well, sure. Yeah, but like even the fact that it happened while you were an adult, I feel like Well, I was still doing what they wanted ultimately. I mean, that's fair. I just I don't know. I I guess I would have thought they would insert themselves more into wanting to like be in. I don't know. That's so interesting.
SPEAKER_03No, because my mom hates my dad's family and was like, we are never gonna be involved with them at all. Yes. So that's fun. So yeah, she was like, I don't, whatever, but anyway.
SPEAKER_01Um, I did write down yearning right after. Oh, wait, I wrote blender smoothie, kind of okay, cup smoothie equals death. That's what my actual note says. Yeah. I feel like I feel like that's people need to know that that's what my note was. Um, and then I wrote the eye contact, the yearning. Like there's already a little yearn. I know. You yearners.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03And I mean, sorry, no, that's good. Because then that leads into what when we finally get to see the kingfisher for the first time, the inside of it at least, and they're sitting at the table and or at the bar, and he's like making them look. He's like, Look at the screen, look, that's him, that's him, that's him, that's him.
SPEAKER_01And so it's just like, even from there, you're just like oh, honey, and like his little face, and like he and Kyle make very quick eye contact where you can tell Kip is looking at him, like, don't fucking judge me for wanting to watch hockey. Like, slow your leave the TV on, do your thing. Also, I have a good potential trivia question for people who need trivia questions for human rivalry. Trivia, and it is what is the mascot of the team that the admirals are playing on the TV.
SPEAKER_00Hmm.
SPEAKER_01Right? Just like a weird little like detail, I feel, you know.
SPEAKER_03I mean, it makes sense. I the funniest one I ever heard was how many stalls are in the Las Vegas bathroom.
SPEAKER_01Damn it, I should have gone with my gut.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna say three, but two are two are closed. No, one is closed, two are open.
SPEAKER_01Okay, all right.
SPEAKER_03Um watch watch me be wrong.
SPEAKER_01People are gonna be like, she's wrong, she's wrong! You guys I'm wrong about everything. I know. Same. Um so but the answer is it's I believe it's Anaheim. Uh and it's the hammerhead sharks.
SPEAKER_03The hammerhead sharks.
SPEAKER_01Hammerhead sharks. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And in real in real life, it's the Anaheim ducks.
SPEAKER_01What a terrible, terrible mascot. Ducks. Quack. Quack. Quack. Quack. That was very aggressive. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_03That's I just uh but we get to see Kyle and he's such a sweetie.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, I love Kyle. He's so cute. That shirt he's wearing, that's the shirt I want. I mean, I realize that everybody loves Ilya's club shirt, but I love Kyle's little bar shirt.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's adorable.
SPEAKER_01It's adorable. The pattern. It's perfect for him. His his cutie little arms.
SPEAKER_03And I want to say there was some an interview with the actor who plays. Kyle, and he was talking about how he he only had like two lines, two or three lines, in like the entire series. And so it was like, How is he supposed to communicate all of the things that he has to communicate with that? And how he he did a a take, and then uh Jacob came over and was just like, Okay, so I actually need you to, and he told him like all of the lore.
SPEAKER_01Totally, so I need you to put all of that into these three words, yes, and I feel and as somebody I really liked Common Goal as a book because I really liked Kyle as a character. I feel like he did it. Oh yes to God. I feel like he 100% did it.
SPEAKER_03I mean, obviously I didn't know anything about the stories or the books, and I even was like, Does he?
SPEAKER_01I mean, yes, exactly. Right. Like, what's that? Just the the way he said hey kip or how whatever the line Hey kid. Oh kills me. Kills me. I can't.
SPEAKER_03We love you, Kyle.
SPEAKER_01We love you, Kyle. I hope that Kyle is getting more air time in season two. Because I hope so. I enjoy him.
SPEAKER_03I also do and I feel like they all will. Hopefully, Jacob gets to make everything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And I yeah, I hope that um I don't know.
SPEAKER_03If they don't get if they don't get crucified first for all other shit. Anyway, so they start saying thank you, Kyle. Thank you, Kyle. So sweet, we love it. And then they score, so we get to see Scott's drought of scoring finally end. He's celebration. Two. Two goals.
SPEAKER_01Two goals in the game, y'all. But then he ends up scoring.
SPEAKER_03Look at him go.
SPEAKER_01I know.
SPEAKER_03One one fruit water, and he's scoring a bunch of goals.
SPEAKER_01Oh fuck, I love you. Oh my god, you and your fucking so and so we go into we leave the bar. Oh wait, hold on. We can't we we can't gloss over.
SPEAKER_03Well yeah, we have the good the good one where he's like, shut up, make him gay.
SPEAKER_01That is a really great line.
SPEAKER_03Because he's just like, nah, he's probably straight. And they're like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_01Just like work your magic, my dude. Shut up, make him gay. Jesus Christ. Um, and we don't want to gloss over the short bus joke from Sean, which Natalie and I talked a little bit about before we did our recording when we were just like going over stuff. And I think we both agreed that like it's is it a tasteless joke? 1000%. But is it also accurate for a group of friends in what like 2013 sitting around acting a fool to probably say something off color like that?
SPEAKER_03And it being so quick and passing and no one even batting an eye about it. Doesn't make again, does not make it right.
SPEAKER_01No, does not mean it is endorsed to be Jacob, don't Jacob, don't do that again. No. Um, but I do like I think that's honestly how friends would like talk to each other and probably kip, kip short for Christopher? Like, why? But my dudes, my dude. So I went to elementary school and I've known others since then. I'm glad about that. Shut up. I fuck off. Me and whatever. Um with a kid whose name was Christopher, but he went by stove.
SPEAKER_03Stove?
SPEAKER_01Swear to god.
SPEAKER_03I've had like tofers. Stoaf is dumb. Yeah. And I'm not sure. If you're listening, you're dumb.
SPEAKER_01But I I just remember, I mean, I remember being so little and somebody in like they're like, oh, you're so and so and their kids, and this is Stoaf. And I was like, the fuck is that name? And I'm in like third grade.
SPEAKER_03It's like, is his dad Stofers?
SPEAKER_01Does he like mac and cheese? I it's I just so and I I mean I have a name that has a lot of nickname options. But they're not my name. Do you know what I mean? I'm not that right? How did they decide on dope?
SPEAKER_03I don't know, I'm just gonna call you Zab.
SPEAKER_01I I mean okay. I would honestly, I would take that over so many other things that Elizabeth is shortened into.
SPEAKER_03Oh we love you, Elizabeth.
SPEAKER_01Oh, here we go. It didn't work again.
SPEAKER_03No, it's not I went away.
SPEAKER_01Closer.
SPEAKER_03I'm not trying to. Okay. I know.
SPEAKER_01I know. You're you are a little, like a tiny.
SPEAKER_03No, I don't need to. I can say whatever I want. And it'll work. All right. All right. All right. Do you want to go to the next scene or should we cut?
SPEAKER_01Um, I mean, I feel like we're I feel like we're good. I feel like we can we can stop here. Yeah. And then we'll start up, we'll start up with the next scene.
SPEAKER_03Back at the back of the smoothie. Back at the smoothie shop.
SPEAKER_01Back at the smoothie. At either straw and berry or straw plus berry. I feel like we need to weigh in. Maybe this needs to be a poll. A little pole. Straw and pull. It's gonna be a pull. Just wait. It's coming for you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. All right. So we are well into episode three. We're skipping on through skip. Skip-a-doo.
SPEAKER_01Skippa-do. That's pretty good. I think it was like sit like six or seven minutes. That's really good. We might need a math update. So we'll have to tag hook it up, baby girl. Our friend, and and get a math update. Because we've had guests. We've had, you know, we've had like some things happening. We also took three weeks off. We did take three weeks off because sometimes you need to rest your body. Um so we have our little update about our fundraiser, which is small but still exciting, is our postcard with the Goodnight Cottage. Good night loon. I don't I feel like calling it.
SPEAKER_03I think Goodnight Cottage is good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because Goodnight Loon is actually a book that exists. So, you know, copyrights and whatnot. Uh, but we have original art by our friend Megan. And we love you, Megan. We love you, Megan. You're so talented. Um so keep an eye out for that if you're interested. Um, you can donate via Venmo. I realize that that's like a US specific thing, but we are more than willing to work with you if you are overseas somewhere and you would still like one.
SPEAKER_03Yep. I mean, as long as you we have the Google form, right? Yep. Yeah, fill that out. I mean, if you if you can't donate through those channels and you can donate to something that's like local in your community, yeah, just do that. Right. Shoot us the screenshot. We're not trying to like gatekeep anything.
SPEAKER_01We just no longer and also if you just want some if you want some joy and you just really want a postcard, send us a DM. Yeah. And I'll send you a postcard. It's fine. You are worth the cost of a stamp. And then some so I won't make it happen.
SPEAKER_03We love you.
SPEAKER_01We love you. You so beautiful. Um what else do we have? Do we have fics? We do. You have fix, right? You have one? I I have a fic. Uh let me bring it up.
SPEAKER_03I have one that I have just started, but it is very, very long. But it was yeah, it was recommended to me by Sasha, and she's told me about it, and the story itself is is really cool.
SPEAKER_01So I love it. What do you think? What constitutes what constitutes very long for you? Tell me, tell me what it is.
SPEAKER_03Uh it's 10 chapters.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so I've got seven chapters.
SPEAKER_03It has 11 or 116,000 words.
SPEAKER_01Motherfucker, that's a long one. Wow, I thought I was mine, is uh 3300. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So mine's 100,000 words.
SPEAKER_01Good god.
SPEAKER_03But it's called The Hottest Cold War.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, nice title.
SPEAKER_03The summary is once is a mistake, twice is terrible judgment, three times is enemy action. After four times, it might just be something worse. Or what if Scott hooked up with Ilya during the summer of 2010 entirely by accident and then kept doing it on purpose? Oh shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Interesting.
SPEAKER_03And it's good. It's really good. Yeah. Because Sasha told me about it, and I was like, I don't know. It was like, no, I promise, I promise. She's like, the way that they do they do it, it works. And I'm like, it works. And I'm gonna take your words.
SPEAKER_01Um, so the the one that I have, the tags alone just I find enjoyable because when when authors write their own little tags, it just makes me giggle. Um I'll be honest with you, I don't know if I don't know what the title is. I don't I feel like it's a made-up word, or alternatively, it's a word in Russian or something that I I just don't know the I maybe I don't know the reference, but it's B-L-I-Z-O-S-T. Don't even want to try to say I I can't even begin. The summary is and it's a little, it's like a little fantasy. So stay with me here. Uh after a bad hit knocks Ilya's consciousness out of his body, literally, Shane finds himself sheltering the soul of his decade-long situationship in the back of his head. Turns out it's a lot harder to keep secrets when you share a body.
SPEAKER_03Those are fun. We love a little, like, I mean, it's not a body swap, but like, you know. Right. The little, yeah, just Ilya doing a little body snatch. But it's funny because I've never I don't really look at the tags for the fanfic. Yeah. And so you said that, and I just looked at the ones for the fic that I suggested, and there's one tag in there that made me laugh, and it says, no beta, we die like Scott's dignity.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_01Amazing. We do not deserve these people.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and it's written by V and looks like the username is Vera underscore dragon muse.
SPEAKER_01So watch out.
SPEAKER_03Your tags are funny.
SPEAKER_01I know. That's yes. I love, I love a funny tag. I really do. I like I like Scott's dignity.
SPEAKER_02I can't. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01So good. And in this one, I should say that mine also comes with like, you know, a little warning. So so prepare yourself for some some stuff. I feel like calling it forced proximity when you're sharing your soul or sharing someone else's body. You're not understanding. You're not wrong, but is that what it is? I feel like it's a little more than that. A little more. Um, all right. So those are the fix that we have for this week. We we also take recommendations. I want to remind people. Um, I feel like I see a lot less recommendations happening online. Well, it's been kind of tough with fics lately.
SPEAKER_02I know, I know, I know. We know Opal is back, which is good. Yeah, which is lovely. All you Wolfbird fans out there.
SPEAKER_03Little little feral babies. Love it. I love it for you. I'm sorry. I've never read it, but anytime there's something new and y'all go fucking crazy, I'm just like, oh. I feel like um, I feel like the the part in Mean Girls when uh Regina George like has thrown all the like flyers out and she's just like standing there and everyone's fighting. Like, that's how I feel when everyone's going crazy over.
SPEAKER_01I'm so I'm so happy for you.
SPEAKER_03Like, look at them all go. They love it. In about 10 minutes, they'll all be crashing the fuck out over it. And it'll be adorable even then, too. Oh, the accuracy. Yeah, and then there'll be somebody that talks shit, and then they'll attack them because don't talk shit about fanfic.
SPEAKER_01And then the sun will rise again tomorrow.
SPEAKER_02And here we are.
SPEAKER_01Same as it ever was, same as it ever was. Oh, I fucking love that song. Um, all right, so we have to wrap up with our yeets. So what are we yeeting out? Yeeting out, not prioritizing self-care. Yes. For your sanity.
SPEAKER_03So and this is also advice for myself as well.
SPEAKER_01Why is it advice for yourself, Philip?
SPEAKER_03Well, because I have because I've had so much going on in my life, yes, it has been very difficult for me to prioritize taking care of myself. I've been putting everything in in front of my own needs. So that's what I mean, where this is also me telling myself taking my own advice.
SPEAKER_01I am I so we talked about this before, and it's definitely on the heels of us taking a very much unplanned, I don't call it hiatus, but having like several weeks where it just like wasn't working out and the vibes were off, and one or both of us had too much going on that we just needed to take care of. And we would like alternate, talking each other down and being like, my dude, we do this for fun. It's funsies only. There's no pressure, it's mostly just because we like to see each other and we like to hang out with each other, and it's we love this, we love this ridiculous show, and it's so good. Um, but at the same time, you got shit you gotta take care of. So in that same vein, I would like to share with everyone that I found a therapist and I'm so excited. I know.
SPEAKER_03I'm so happy.
SPEAKER_01I know, I'm so happy for me. And now I actually have two to choose between, so I'm a little I'm a little nervous.
SPEAKER_00Um rush.
SPEAKER_01I know. Um, because what are the odds? But you can pay two people to listen to the code. No, I cannot. Absolutely cannot. I mean, should I? Yes, but can I? No. Um, but that that is an example of the self-care. Like I I finally got my shit together enough that I was like, all right, I know I need to do this for myself.
SPEAKER_03And I and if you're listening and you need a you need a kick in the ass, this is your kick in the ass.
SPEAKER_01Yes, or DM us and we will kick you in the ass. Lovingly. Maybe with a postcard. Yeah, yeah. We'll do both. Um, so what is our yeet in, Natalie?
SPEAKER_03Our yeet in, we are yeeting in women's hockey. Because everybody needs to know about the PWHL. Mm-hmm. Because the NHL dooby fucking fumbling this shit. Okay. So badly, right? Just like so royally. Like, I it's the fucking playoffs, and I have watched one game. I'm just like so, ugh, I don't fucking care.
SPEAKER_01But anytime I see posts about the PWHL, I'm just like, so in other exciting news, I am going to a Boston Fleet game. You bitch. Tomorrow. I know. You bitch. I know. And may have paid money that I don't necessarily have, but I'm gonna take two of my kids and we're gonna go. And I have no heated rivalry, anything to wear, but I do have a Shane Hollander keychain that maybe I will just dangle from my ear to try and just walk around holding it up. Hey everyone. Totally normal. It's fine. Come be my friend. No, I really don't. I don't want to talk to people in public. Um, but yes, PWA is a good one. It's gonna be so fun. Yes, and I'm gonna need Siri as Sirius is on call to update me about things that I may or may not understand. Because I did date a hockey player, so I understand a little bit, but probably not enough. Yeah. So we'll see. But go sports ball. I just hope both teams have fun. I hope everybody has fun. Yeah, everyone's just have a good time. Yeah, and we hope you guys have fun. We hope you had fun listening to this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think by the time that you all listen to this, the Met Gala will have already happened. So the cab that crash out would have happened. So yeah, this is us talking to our future self.
SPEAKER_01You're gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're we're all gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_01It's okay. The outfit, monumental.
SPEAKER_03It it's as good as we think it's gonna be, right?
SPEAKER_01Better. Okay. Yeah. All right, better. All right, we love you.
SPEAKER_03We love you. We're so glad to be back, and we'll see you on the next one.
SPEAKER_01Good night, Nat.
SPEAKER_03Good night, Liz. Good night, night loons.