Life and why we chose nutrition

It is national nutrition month and so we decided to talk about why we decided to do the work that we do. Take a few minutes to learn a little more about Dena and Theresa and some of the memories we share over a 20+ year friendship!!

Edited by Jay Davis

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Happy March, everyone, and welcome to the bend with Dina and Teresa. Welcome back. I'm happy to be back. Yeah, I feel good. It's been a few weeks since we've been doing this, so it's nice to be back together. Yeah, it is. It feels right. It feels so right. Well, how have you tell me about your last past few weeks? How have things been going for you? What have you been up to?

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Well, I wish I could say I've been exercising and weight training, but something happened where I got waylaid. Part of that's been that I'm planning a vacation with my dad, who I've mentioned before is 88. And so we were gonna go to Mexico. And then unfortunately, there were some drug cartel issues there, which you know, when you have an 88-year-old, it's a reason to not go. Yes. So I I feel like if it was just me traveling, I may wait till it calms down because we weren't scheduled to leave until a couple weeks. So I maybe could have gone alone, but I just, yeah, wasn't the right thing with him. Makes sense. I've had the pleasure of rearranging our itinerary and now we're going to Florida. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Okay. I do feel like you're pretty good at the planning of trips. You've done it enough, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

On the one hand, I love doing it. Like I love all parts of travel. I love being at the airport. I I love all of it. Like a lot of people hate that. Now there are times where I've traveled and you know, I get a little sick of it. You have delays, you have long layovers or whatnot. But I pretty much am like, yeah, this is this is all part of traveling. Yeah. You know, it's trickier with my dad because we don't share a room. If we just had to get a hotel room where we had two beds, but we can do that for one night, but we cannot do that for a week or 10 days, or we were going to be in Mexico for two weeks. So that, you know, that would not work. Yeah, that would be a lot of time with your father. It definitely is a lot of time. And then also, but he sleeps more. Oh, sure. And so it's hard to really, we have to have some separate space so he can have his schedule as is and I can be still awake doing what I want to do too. Yeah. So anyway, it but it all worked out, it's all good. We're we're leaving soon and it'll be nice. Good. So yeah, and I'm sure there's been other things going on, but that's kind of what just in the last few days has um been settled.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Good. Yeah. Well, good. I'm glad that you're able to do that with him at that age. And, you know, making those concessions is very kind of you to make sure he gets what he wants and you guys stay safe. So for sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

And you know, he still has the desire. So that's a huge thing. I think um just yeah, having the desire to leave to go someplace warm. Yeah, right. He could he could wait it out another month or two and he'd be in the clear, but sure he yeah, he wants to go.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Yeah, get out of the cold weather and go somewhere warm. I can't blame the man. Yeah. Good. So how about you? Well, so my son is a junior, and we've been doing some college trips. And we're in that planning for college scenario, and it's it's a lot. Man, college is more expensive than it used to be. Yeah, just a little, significantly more money. It's so crazy. Yes. And you know, he'll be fine. He just he wants to go to a really big school, which is a little bit more money, and we're just kind of like, well, that's great, but we don't want you to have debt, right? Like, if there's a way you can get through college without having much debt, and there's a way you can get through college having a lot of debt, we'd like you to choose the former where you have less debt, right? But um, so we did do a college tour, and it was lovely and compact and cost effective. We're Mark and I high-fived each other in the middle of the presentation because they're like, rent here is like three to four hundred dollars. And I was like, we can pay for that, no problem. You know, but this kid is bougie, my son. He is Mr. Bouge, and he is like turned his nose up, like, this is not as good as this school I want to go to. Oh, what about it was not good? I mean, the facility, okay. This is the other thing. We live in a town in Wisconsin where the school is brand new, the high school. Okay, and it costs like many, many millions of dollars. And so they're the school is gorgeous. I mean, they have like a full auto shop in there, they have like a cafe style eatery. It's just it's lots of windows, everything's new, it's beautiful, right? And then you go to a state college that's been there for hundred or more years, and it just doesn't compare, you know. Yeah, just based on the high school, but then you consider that like a big 10 school or you know, something like that. It's just it's big, it's a big city, it's great facility. So he was just like, Well, the gym at Sluts and Shot was amazing. And you're like, I'm sure it was. How about the dorms? They're so much better than this like cell block room. You know, I'm like, well, I'm sure they were, but it you paid for that too. Wow. Anyway, in this process, you know, we've encouraged our son to come up with some options and really think about what is it about the big school that you like? What does life look like? You know what I mean? Just some of those questions, which he's like, nope, I'm good. I don't need to do shit. I know what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

You know, he doesn't reflect.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

No, no need, not really reflective, which I totally get. I mean, this is like what I I the one thing I wanted for my children at this age is to be open-minded. No kids are open-minded at this age. What am I thinking? They do what they want to do. So in response to that, we've hired a coach to help us with the process.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

Oh, to help you guys.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Well, really to help Luke with the process and to take us out of it, right? Because we don't think we're idiots. We've never done this before. We know nothing, according to my son.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Uh, okay. I was like, well, you both went to college very successfully, and it was a different time. Yes, it was a different time.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Well, I just finished my master's, so it's not like I'm that far removed from any of this stuff, right? But in any event, a coach will be the third party and the buffer that we need in this process, and so we're doing that. Yeah, I'm curious. Did Mark suggest that being the one with the lawyer background? No, my husband does not want to spend money on anything ever. But this is the thing. What I've learned after you know, 20 years of marriage. I suggested this two years ago. I suggested this one year ago. But you know, the more my husband thinks it's his idea, the more likely we are to do these things. And so at some point I presented something like, oh yeah, man, it would just be nice if there was, you know, somebody else that could kind of help manage some of this stuff for us, you know, because it's like we've asked Luke to do these things, and like, oh man, I yeah, I wonder if there's anybody out there that can do that. He's like, Oh yeah, I wonder. And so then he kind of started looking at it. And then we came up with, well, I can find a couple people. And the same company that I've been looking at for two years is now the company that we've hired to do this. So can I just interject some thoughts?

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Yes, you did manifest it. You did manifest it. You just yeah, you had to play the cards and let it come at the time where it was more present, like now it's happening. So now the action is gonna take place. Yeah, exactly. But you have a lot of forethought, you're you're an out-of-the-box person.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

I'm also like a bit of a worry war, you know. Like as another example, Mark and Luke went on the college visit to the big school. I was like, I'm not gonna go because I I'm gonna drive everybody nuts. So I didn't go and I had to work anyway. Um, and so I think the reality, like the numbers is what like kind of made both Mark and Luke be like, oh, that's a lot of money. And so then also I'm like, well, Luke, if you want to go to this school, you need to start working a bit more. And this is like during spring break where he had no shifts that he was working, you know, just like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Anyway, it's a process. Fascinating. So has the work with a coach already started?

SPEAKER_01 9:23

It has, yes. Okay, yeah. So it's, you know, I I don't know that Luke loves it, but I'm hopeful that I mean, the at the end of our first conversation, this company was like, our goal at the end of this is that you have five or six schools and that there's at least three of them that you're super excited about. You know what I mean? So it's like, I think it'll be good. And it's I'm happy that it's not us doing it because he he would just think be even more annoyed with it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Yeah, yeah, there is that sense of parents don't know anything. How have they survived this full time by yeah, sucking up the idea that, like, oh, I didn't know anything at that time and now I'm getting payback? Totally, absolutely, yes, totally at fault.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

But that kind of brings me to like, you know, we don't have any like mind-bending facts that we're gonna present today, but so I just thought it would just be a nice opportunity for us to talk about like what is it about nutrition? Like, how did we choose our paths?

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

You know, I know like my husband, he went to school for one thing, and that's exactly what he did. I had a far different path than that. So that's my question for you, T is how did you become a dietitian? Wow.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

Yeah, okay. I get to give the long answer. Medi, medium, medium, medium.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Although we do have an editor, so I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

I just um, yeah, I know people too who uh went to school for one thing and that's what they did, and that's what they do, that's what they will always do. And I think that's amazing. I know. I've been a little bit of a wanderer in more than ways, more ways than one. So I think nutrition started for me at home, and it started actually with food. And honestly, I think if I did it over, if I went and majored the same thing, I would have put more of my emphasis on the food science piece.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

And well, because I like let's explain that for nutrition, you usually get a nutrition and food science degree, so it's a little bit of both. So we do learn like the science of food and cooking and and that type of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

So yeah, thanks for clarifying that. So I think that honestly, uh, because I loved being in the kitchen, I didn't know always what I was doing, but I like to play in the kitchen. And so I I think that, and of course that still holds true today. But anyway, so I started getting interested in actual nutrition ideas probably as a preteen. I distinctly remember it was the time where you're supposed to everyone was like, drink skin milk. And I convinced my mom to change to skim milk. And I started drinking water like more regularly. Uh I stopped drinking soda. It's probably how I should say it. I don't know that I started drinking a lot of water right away, but I stopped drinking soda. Okay. And not that that you know, I still like drank juice that was basically like soda out of the vending machine.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Because, you know, options at school were different in those days. Oh, yeah, for sure. I remember, I mean, I grew up on soda too, and cookies.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Cookies, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

That's hilarious. I grew up on french fries when my mom wasn't home. My sister and I would either make French fries for lunch or we'd make uh chicken tenders for lunch.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

And that was it. Sometimes we made both.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Oh yeah. Oh, big, big day. That was after swim lessons or something. I had a lot of spaghettios and hungry man's and pexy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

So in any case, in any case, I uh I started getting a little bit interested in nutrition. We would get these magazines at home. We had a lot of reading material at home, always a lot of magazines. And so I would just take all that information in. And my mom actually, I credit her with me becoming a dietitian because I'm a freshman in college and have to decide my major. And I'm thinking about many different things, which makes sense to me now because I like a lot of different things. Yes. And I can see how I'd like to do any one of them. And she suggested, why don't you become a dietitian? I'm like, what's that? And she's like, Well, you talk about nutrition all the time. So why don't you do that?

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

And I was like, Oh, that's a thing. Yeah. And it happened that the school I was attending, the university I was attending, had had that degree. Yeah, because a lot of schools don't have that degree.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Usually there's like one to three in a state that carry that particular major.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

So, anyhow, so I I enrolled more formally in that program and got going. And then also what happened was um my mom was sick when I was in high school and continued to be sick until she passed away. But I did find myself shifting not just from food preparation and being interested in the science of it into like healing with food. And I distinctly remember one time going to a co-op. I mean, I was not raised where there was a co-op. We just had, you know, the local grocery store. Yeah. So I remember stopping at a co-op. Um, I was going back home to visit on a break, and I just like bought all these organic foods and I was gonna save my mom, basically. Right. Because at that time I was entering into my clinical classes and you know, learning more about how nutrition affects health and uh disease level, I should say.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

So yeah, that's where all that went. And so then I really ended taking the clinical route, and I do believe that was in part because of my uh experience at home and trying to help care for my mom to an extent. So that really shaped uh going into clinical nutrition and I had a couple of uh kind of beginner jobs, and then I spent 10 and a half years in I shouldn't say my first jobs were beginner jobs. My very first job was a beginner job where I did all sorts of things. My second job was like inpatient and mental health was a big part. I had the mental health unit. So I got interested in mental health and then moved into uh my 10 and a half year tenure at an HIV infectious disease clinic. Very cool. And that's really what I did. And I was like the only dietitian doing that in the state full-time for that that time period. And yeah, I look back very fondly on those years and then, you know, made a career change. Ultimately, actually looked at going to law school, looked at uh getting a public health degree and that uh master's or PhD in public health, but ultimately became a Pilates teacher. I love it.

unknown 16:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

And but because movement's always been part of my life too, which I think we've talked about in the past. But yeah. Yeah, so that's kind of my long story. Yeah. On that, uh there was just a lot of influences, but and I'll always be a dietitian at heart because obviously I've been like that since I was a kid. Like that's it was it's in me, it was within me. I just am doing something more different as my primary vocation.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love that. And you? Well, my path is a little different. You know, I mean, I college was a struggle for me. We I didn't grow up with a lot of finances, so it was like on me to pay for school, you know. So I uh I mean I still got down in five years, and what happened was I joined the military in order to help pay for school. And the job, because I was working at a restaurant at the time. So my recruiter was like, why don't you do food service or you know, become a cook. And I was like, Okay, you know, it had certain benefits to it that I was looking for too. But it was the the unit I was in was a medical unit. So I actually went to it was medical new like working in a hospital. So I went to regular cook school, and then I went to a school to talk about nutrition. So I started learning about that, and I was like, oh, this is great. I love all of this. This all makes a lot of sense. Food was always a huge part of our life growing up. I mean, I know I talked, we did grow up also in the same time frame, right? Lots of processed foods and things, but you know, we didn't have a lot of money growing up, and my mom always made sure we had home cooked meals. When my father passed away when I was eight, then um, you know, it was just kind of her and I. Despite having a big family, there my siblings are much older than me. So a good part of my life was just my mom and I at home. So we did do more processed foods, but as a family, we would get together and you know, have all the foods and traditional German foods and things like that. So food's always into my life. So, any in any event, I met you kind of around the time I was joining the military, and I was like, Oh, I didn't know that a dietitian existed. What is what is that? That sounds really interesting. So it's always in the back of my mind. I got through school by kind of at some point, I was like, I need to get out of here. What major can I get that gets me out of here with the credits that I have? And MassCom was it. Folks got that together.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

Oh, yeah. Which was great. That was a popular degree. I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

A lot of people with MassCom degrees. Yeah, for sure. And I focused on advertising and and I did enjoy all of those things as well. And uh good skill to have in life, I think, of how to market yourself and your things. You are good at that. Thank you. Yeah. When I had my first child, we moved to New Jersey, and I was a stay-at-home mom for a while, and I was going crazy. I'm not gonna lie. It was not for me. Not for me. It would have been better, I think, if I had like a lot of friends that had children, you know, just kind of being on your own though, that was terrible. To move, to move at that time is yeah, juncture in life. Yeah, for sure. And I just I was like, I want, I don't want to do marketing anymore. I don't want to do that. I really, if I want to leave this sweet little thing behind while I go do something, I want to love what I'm doing. And so I just like did that assessment of what do I do in my spare time? Well, I cooked and I read a lot of cookbooks, but I didn't just read cookbooks, I read like cooks illustrated, right? And like oh my god, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 20:13

So many copies, and you know what? I love to read recipes. I will sometimes, because I still love cookbooks, I will just open up a cookbook and read recipes. Same. I mean that's geeky. I'm super geeky that way.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

So go on so much the same. Yeah, no, but I was like, I don't just like to cook, I love to learn about the food and why does it do this and what's going on and all of the things. Yeah. And so there was a school in New Jersey that had a program, and I was like, I and then I looked at like the financial side of things, and I was like, found out I had um some education benefits still left that were gonna cover things for me. Actually, it was an a GI bill that I didn't even know about since I had I left the military at this time. And yeah, in any event, I got the numbers and I showed my husband, and he's like, No, you're kind of all over the place, right? Like you jump around, much like you're saying, right? Like because you are interested in things, I'm the same way. I'm not just interested in one thing, I want to know and do everything. Yeah, and I was like, You're supposed to be my supporter, and so finally he's like, Okay, do it. And I've never looked back. I love every aspect of it so much.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

So, yes, I've noticed that about you. You definitely are are all in in a very, but not in that narrow view of being all in. You're all in with a big view of things, which is cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Yeah, and I've always wanna learn more, right? Like, oh, well, what about this? This is a new drug. What does that do? What's going on there? How can we do this? And I just love making nutrition simple for people. I think that's my what I love most of all about what I do is like when they come into my office, they're like, Oh, this is so overwhelming. I'm like, okay, it's it doesn't need to be. Gonna show you tricks on how to make it easier. And by the time they leave, they're usually like, I get it. This is great.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

I wanna say, if you don't mind, I didn't realize that when you were in your early military career that you were doing food service and nutrition stuff. I don't remember that. But I guess I didn't meet you then. You were Yeah. You had were already working in advertising when I met you, right? No.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

I was so I met we met when I was just about to go into the army. So our friend that we met, we I had taken some time off and worked in a restaurant. That's where I met her.

unknown 22:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

And then kind of right before I was leaving, we did this road trip nonsense. And I was gonna be doing the military. So it was like hospital, I think it was hospital food service was the actual title. And so really the nutrition school was super basic, but it was like how to puree food if you are in a mil um medical field hospital and somebody comes in with a broken jaw, you know? Sure. But I did get to go to cooking school, which is super fun, right? So for three months, I learned how to cook, and you know, we can joke about military things, but they did have like a competitive team of people that would actually, you know, they were our teachers of of how to cook, and it was it was really interesting. That's so cool. It was really cool, and it's like what I loved about it in the military was and I didn't always do that. I mean, I I ended up working full-time for the military in many other capacities, not not ever, none none of which were cooking, but in my young years, it's kind of like the heart, right? So you're you're there to also not just feed soldiers, but you're there to kind of give them hope, you know, and like be a good part of their day, right? So some of the soldiers go out and do do whatever, but they come back and so you just try to make it fun and I don't know. I enjoyed it. Yeah, that's how I looked at it.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And you still do you do parties? Do you host parties and cook for lots of people?

SPEAKER_01 24:02

I do love to host yeah, have so yeah. If I I mean my family doesn't really travel to where I live so much, but um, I would love it if they did. But yeah, I have friends over frequently and and cook and I love to do that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Yeah, I don't do it frequently, but I do do it. I like to put together odd groups of people. Yeah, because that's really my being single and not having kids. I don't have like friends from my kids, I don't have couples friends, I don't have that kind of circle or circuit. Sure. So for me, even when I lived in Minneapolis, yeah, I'd bring together the hodgepodge of people. And um, I do that still here, uh where I live now, but not to the same extent, a little less often.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Well, that's one of my favorite memories I have of you. And that is, yeah, um, your two friends and I, you had hosted us at your place in Minneapolis. And I think we all stayed overnight and we we went out from your place and you cooked for us and you made steaks from a cook's illustrated recipe. I remember all of this so clearly, and I was just like, Teresa's so cool, she's so amazing. Was I living in my apartment at that time? Yeah, the upstairs one with Lady where you had to curtains a certain way every day.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

I remember that what a great detail to remember.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

I totally remember hilarious. I loved your little shower. You had like a little squeegee, you were so like precise, and I was like, I'm getting a squeegee. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

I was perhaps what you would call an influencer. Oh my god. The original influencer, yes. That's so awesome. Oh, yeah, good memory is like I love one thing I love about friendships, or just any people that you've known a long time is like the different things that people remember about the exact same little time capsule. Yes. I just think that is so much fun. How some people blank out maybe an entire scenario, or someone remembers something like having to have the blinds halfway down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

I totally feel about that. I think I perseverated on that fact that God, would I like that or wouldn't I like that? Is it too much?

unknown 26:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Oh, so funny. Well, that's great. So the gist of it is is that, and maybe like because you're in the thick of college preparation for your first, for your oldest, you know, there's that desire to really help guide your kids. And it's just like you almost can't screw up as long as you're doing it with love and intention and not for yourself, you know, and what you want. I think that like my mom, you know, she saw something that I was just oblivious to because I was also super high anxiety and you know, just always wound up about stuff. And so she saw something that I couldn't see because I was very myopic, I was very detail-oriented, and she could just pull me back and be like, big picture here. Why don't you try this? And sometimes what we love to do doesn't need to be our job, but sometimes it can be. Yeah. It can serve purpose and career, but they don't have to go together.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You can have some separation or it can be what it is that you do. So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

Yeah. Awesome. Well, good luck with all of that. That's fascinating. I'm glad that Mark came up with that idea. I know, he's so smart. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

So what would I do with that in? One time my sister was yeah, I'll tell this quick story. Okay. She was at my house and I was like, Oh, we should do this, Mark, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, No. And then I asked a question, and then he was like, Well, maybe we should do this and this. I was like, Yep, that's a great idea. And my sister looked at me and she's like, That is exactly what you told him should happen. I was like, it's better if it comes from him. She's like, I don't know how you do it. So that is so awesome. Sometimes I drop F bombs at him because I'm frustrated, but other times I'm just like, eh, I'm just gonna let it go.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

Yeah. Save that F-bomb for something else.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

Yeah, stockpile them. Yeah. Money, funny. So where do we go from here? I don't know. Okay, so the point of all this was, you know.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Yeah. Well, it's National Nutrition Month. That's one of the points. Yeah, that's part of why we wanted to talk about it. National Nutrition Month. Yeah. So we're talking about our history of nutrition with nutrition.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

By nutrition for nutrition.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Yeah. So that's where we started with this. So that kind of takes care of like mind and soul a little bit. So that's kind of what's on our mind. And, you know, I feel like food for us is soul and talking about our story. So, how about body? What's going on with the body?

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Well, you know what? Actually, so March is a lot of things. National Nutrition Month, it is the final four, or excuse me, March Madness.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Right? But in the Pilates world, there is March matness. So yeah, Pilates on the mat. I love it. I don't personally do any sort of like gimmicky thing with it, but it's kind of fun. I've seen different ways where you commit to doing Pilates for 30 days, or you do a particular exercise every day of the 30 days in March. Yes. Yeah. 30 days in March.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

So Oh, I think after this you're gonna have to mark no, there's 31 days.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

There's 31 days in March.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Uh maybe for after our podcast today, you can give me two exercises to do. Okay. From March back to Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

Okay. We'll do that off off screen and uh we'll do a video on it though. A video call. Okay, yeah. That sounds good. Is that okay? Yep. Fun. Fun, fun, fun. Yeah, I could do something with that, but I'll tell you what. Although I was one of the first influencers, I'm pretty lazy when it comes to social media.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

I know. As it is, I gotta figure out how to get more movement towards this. Oh, yes. Let me just say my body thing really quick. And that is uh so keeping in the spirit of the fact that I like a lot of things. One of the things my family gives me shit about is that I'm always kind of doing something different physically. And I might have mentioned this, maybe not. But um, you know, like by design, I do a membership at a gym here or I do this there another year. So I change things up a lot. And that's by design. I get bored, I get sick of the same thing. Yep. So in any event, I did find a new gym. It is less bouncy, it's more uh weight training for women, and I'm super excited about it. So and is it twice a week? It is once a week, four to five times a week. Oh, cool. So it's 30 minutes, so it's really quick, and I can do it on 30 minutes. Yeah, that's all. It's perfect, and it's intense enough, you're still sore afterwards, and you move on. So my goal is to try to do it in the mornings, but it fills up a little bit. I love it. Congrats!

SPEAKER_00 31:41

I'm looking forward to when I leave on this little vacation to exercise every day so that when I get back, I I have a clear goal of where I'm gonna go with things. It's it's so strange. I think that I was always so I mean, I'm still driven, but as I've gotten older and have kind of gotten nicer to myself is really how I'm gonna say it. I don't feel that need to push as much anymore. I was definitely a pusher. I was in that category. And it was great for a lot of reasons, but I realize now that I don't need to push in many ways in my life. And so that's actually translated into my movement where but I it's almost now that I miss that. Like, what happened to that? Right. Where did that person go? Because I love to like grind out tough workouts. And so I want to get some of that back, but not but obviously now I'm a little more deconditioned and I have to start, I have to start from the very beginning again, unfortunately. I hate to even admit that. I hate to even say that, but there's really no shame in it. I know. Um the shame would be to like not to not go forward with something and just enjoy myself again with with that.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Yeah, I agree. That like it's part of the you know, I was doing the boot camp situation and I had yeah, I just have some injuries that that doesn't really parlay well. And as much as I want to do that and do that grind, it just really isn't great for me. If especially if like I want to do certain other movements. So I just have to pick and choose my my things. I think right now weights are important for me and um you know, biking season's coming up, and that's really my big passion um to get that cardio and stuff. Uh, and it's much easier on my sore parts. Yeah, right. Yeah, so okay, last thing I want to talk about. Yeah, what's up? Um, astrology. Because I know that's you you know a lot about this, and I know nothing, and this is my story. So Friday, Friday was a bit of a cluster at work, and I like nothing was working. I would get on the computer and that wasn't working, and I don't know. And I had a patient there, and I was like, I don't know what's happening today. And she's like, Oh, Mercury's in retrograde.

SPEAKER_02 34:01

I was just about to say that.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

And I was like, awesome. I have no idea what that means. And she was kind of this kind of person that was all over the place and never really told me what it means. So please tell me what the hell is going on.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

Mercury in retrograde is significant because Mercury relates to communication. If you are a person who will be affected by Mercury in retrograde, okay, I'm not an astrologer. This is what I picked up along the way. Okay. So that's my disclaimer. And so I might get something wrong. No one come and like berate me. Right. Yes. But Mercury in retrograde means like it looks like the planet's going backwards, but it's not. It's just our relationship to the planet makes it appear that way. So uh because Mercury is a sign of communication, you can find a lot of things going awry related to communication, devices, technology, our own community, yeah, our own communication, being able to communicate with people. And so it's a time to uh like reassess things and reevaluate and really not try to force issues. You might try again, let's say something's wrong with your phone. You might just let it sit for a second or a hundred seconds, then go back to it, try again. You know, you just have to be patient and go slower. And if there's something uh related to communication or anything like that, it's a good time to pause and, like I said, reassess or maybe consider how you might say something differently, that kind of thing. Interesting. How long does this last? Yeah, this particular one is lasting two months, and every uh year Mercury goes and retrograde it usually three times a year. And this time, this year, it's all in water signs. So this is a whole nother thing. Oh yeah. We're in the month of Pisces. Pisces is a water sign, okay and the astrological chart. So the next month, the next sign is gonna be Aries. Aries is a fire sign. Okay. So you're gonna find. Let me let me get my notes, people. So it goes, I might not even have it right here because I'm so scattered that I kind of stuck down. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

You know what I have? I have to show you. I just learned to accept it. I have this, um, it's called a remarkable too, and it's an electronic notebook. And it's really great for scattered note takers like myself because you can have like an astrology notebook in here. And then anytime you have a thought about that, you can go to that notebook. Be collated together.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

Yes. So in any case, Mercury's right now gonna be retrograde two months. I think that means it goes to the end. It just started. I mean, just started on Wednesday or Thursday. And then that so Pisces is a water sign, cancer is a water sign, and Scorpio are water signs. So you can expect Mercury Mercury and retrograde in each of those signs uh this coming year. Okay. So that's kind of the short of it.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

So if I'm a cancer and it's Mercury, is it retrograde?

SPEAKER_00 37:12

Yeah, am I totally screwed in July? You're not totally screwed, but you will be more affected by it. Okay. Because because you are a water sign and it's uh effective in that sign. There's there are other factors that come into play. You know, then you have to kind of know your chart more. Okay. But but I think just from knowing you, yes, I think you have a lot of air in your chart also. You have um that out-of-the-box thinking is Aquarian. Okay. And um that need to like change and shift years. Um, you're over here, now you're over here, you're like bored with that, on to the next. That's Gemini. That's also an air sign. Okay. So I I would be curious how strong those are in your chart. Okay. Do you read charts? Is that a thing? It is a thing. I'm again, I'm not like totally qualified to read a chart, but I can probably give you a gist of some important things. Okay. But it's it's like it depends on obviously first thing is your sun sign. So for you, you're a cancer, that's your sun sign. Okay. But you can have your moon is in something, and that means one deal, and then you have a rising sign, that means something. Oh, is that when people are like, I'm a cancer Virgo rising or something?

SPEAKER_01 38:32

Yeah, that could be, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

So a lot of the planets have a home in a particular sign. Okay. But that stuff's shifting all the time. So you could um, so that makes a difference too where your mercury is in your chart when you were born. Okay. So, you know, you might be more impacted if you were born with mercury in cancer, for instance. Okay. And now it's in retrograde. But my understanding is just by the fact that you are cancer and it's going retrograde at that time, you will be affected. Okay. Jeff's my mini astrology as a not a true astrologer. Okay. Yeah. But I I do dabble what you find is it's like uh it's its own. I always like to say like it's its own universe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

So much uh going on. I'll read a horoscope. Oh, it's totally me. But you know, I can see myself in pretty much any of them, right? So it's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

Yeah, and that's okay too. Like, that's why people we all have a more than one thing in our charts. And so that's why those things are relatable because you're not just a cancer. Right. And I think like when when I was a kid, you know, looking through the teen magazines, they have your horoscope, right? You land on your month, and you just like that was all. But there is so much more influence with all of those things. You can see those patterns. Like, at least that's been very helpful for me.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

And it's helpful for me in understanding other people.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:05

I I definitely have to sometimes pause because my energy, my signs definitely are at odds with some others.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

We had some conversation before we started about, you know, really some relationships in our lives that are more difficult than others and how we manage those. So that's part of why I'm laughing. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, this has been super fun to catch up with you.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Yes, you too. I missed you. I was like, oh, oh, I missed you again.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Where are you? Yeah, so this has been good. And I think um next time we're gonna record, we're talking about gut health. So stay tuned for some information on that. But this was been fun, just nice and light and getting to know your history a little bit more. I always love that.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Yeah, me too. Me too. And that's good for people who want to connect with us to know our history if that resonates for them.

SPEAKER_01 41:00

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

You know, because you're you're open for business.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

That's right, girl. Alright, happy day. All right, happy day to you. See you soon. Bye. Bye.