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The 5000 Year Leap by Cleon Skousen
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Shannon brings to life a book that should be a timeless classic. This is the first of a series of offerings from Cleon Skousen that she hopes to introduce to us.
The nation the Founders built is now in the throes of a political, economic, social, and spiritual crisis that has driven many to an almost frantic search for modern solutions. The truth is that the solutions have been available for a long time -- in the writings of our Founding Fathers -- carefully set forth in this timely book.
In The 5000 Year Leap: A Miracle That Changed the World, Discover the 28 Principles of Freedom our Founding Fathers said must be understood and perpetuated by every people who desire peace, prosperity, and freedom. Learn how adherence to these beliefs during the past 200 years has brought about more progress than was made in the previous 5000 years. These 28 Principles include The Genius of Natural Law, Virtuous and Moral Leaders, Equal Rights--Not Equal Things, and Avoiding the Burden of Debt.
Well, good morning, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Bookworm Mom. I am excited today because we're going to do something a little different than we've done in the past. Each week we've previously done a new book. Um, but we often talk about older books when we're referring to information in the chapters of the new books. And so I kind of want to do a little bit of a deep dive into a guy by the name of Kleon Sculson. Um, Cleon was a FBI agent, a very interesting guy. Unfortunately, he's not with us anymore. Uh he passed away in 2006. But I just kind of want to give you a little brief breakdown. Um, very popular author. He's a great speaker and a teacher. He's lectured pretty much in every state and across the province of North America that you can think of, over 60 countries, um, very much a student of history, a scholar of law, and uh his specialization were you know principles of freedom, the U.S. Constitution, economics, ancient history, and of course scriptures. Um he was a Mormon.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04Scalsen was born in uh Canada, but to American parents who were working there, so he's a U.S. citizen. Um he actually went to um college in San Bernardino at the junior college there and got his bachelor's degree in theater and performing arts, which seems like what you know what's a crazy background. Uh then he got all kinds of scholarships because he's very good at it, he was very encouraged. But then he leaves California in like 1934, starts working as a government aide in Washington, D.C. How that didn't break him, I don't know. That's right. And ironically, he found that work incredibly boring.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So uh boring is not the word I would have used, but fine. So after you know, being bored as an aide in D.C., he decides, you know what, I'm gonna join the FBI. So he does, becomes this FBI agent, works there for 16 years, and really gets heavily involved in the study of the Constitution, uh, obviously looking at the foundational fathers and what they did and how they developed the Constitution. Uh so he goes back to college, gets his law degree from George Washington University, uh, and then you know, practices law in the District of Columbia, and then the District of Court appeals, uh, and also before the Supreme Court. So this guy was not just some mediocre attorney. He was a pretty impressive guy. Then, because of his background uh in acting and obviously his expertise on the subject of communism, uh, he was then asked to return to California to eradicate the communist progressive influences in Hollywood. So this is about the time him and the Red Scare, all of that.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_04So he gets back out there and he's trying to help uh eradicate communism from the Hollywood uh environment, the media, et cetera. During this period, he actually had a very, very close relationship with some prominent individuals that you're gonna recognize, including Ronald Reagan, Walt Disney, Walter Knott, Cecil B. DeMille, John Wayne, and Art Linklet. So this guy had a pretty profound impact on Hollywood. And if you remember, Ronald Reagan was the president of the Actors Guild at that time. Screen actors guild. Screen Actors Guild. So he then maintains that friendship and basically is a mentor to Ronald Reagan on the Constitution before and during his presidency, uh Ronald Reagan's presidency. So pretty impressive. Then he accepts a position at Brigham Young University, and you know, he establishes a security and police force there and uh BUIU student alumni organization. I mean, this dude is so impressive the things he's accomplished. I'm spending a lot of time talking about him because we're gonna kind of talk about his books in the next couple weeks. Okay. But um, Time magazine did a special on him and claimed that he ran a model police force that eliminated all sources of systemic crime in Salt Lake City. Uh, he wrote a bestseller, a bestseller at that time, the Neked Communist, which we'll talk about that uh after this book we're gonna talk about today. Just, I mean, an unbelievable career uh for a man who dedicated his life to this country. And um he is just um uh a preeminent source, if you want to know anything about the Constitution, law, our founding fathers, et cetera. So the first book that we're actually gonna take of his is the 5,000 year leap. And it's the 28 principles of freedom. He actually wrote this book in 1981, so it's an older book. Um, so you're gonna have no problem finding it. And once again, folks, if you were in the studio, you'd see uh the book is once more a porcupine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_04Uh multiple paper uh tags in there with little words written on them. What my goodness, this is you gotta make sure I talk about this, gotta make sure I talk about this. Um, he just is probably one of the best authors. Um, I'll tell you, I was in um, I think I was in Italy actually, and I picked up his book, and it was on Kindle, and it was The Naked Communist, it was the first one I read of his.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_04And my husband's like, Are you ready to go? We're going to a wine taste. I'm like, one more chapter. One more chapter. He's like, I ain't got time for a chapter. I should get five more minutes. So it was just that compelling of a read. Oh my. But this book is more of a breakdown of our founding fathers. So he starts off at the very beginning with some really great quotes. And, you know, it seems fitting that you would start the first quote from the president of the United States, who was first, George Washington. So George Washington had the following to say The power under the Constitution will always be in the people. It is entrusted for certain defined purposes and for a certain limited period. You hear that, Lindsey Graham? Limited period. To representatives of their own choosing. And whenever it is executed contrary to their interest or not agreeable to their wishes, their servants can and undoubtedly will be recalled. So I'd like to see Lindsey Graham recalled along with a host of others.
SPEAKER_00Amen.
SPEAKER_04My goodness gracious, we we have fallen away from that adage. The second quote that he gives is probably even my favorite, actually, and it's Thomas Jefferson. It says, We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_04And then he goes on, all tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Let's go back a little bit and talk about that majority who participate. I mean, in the last primary, I think here in Ori County, we only had like eight percent turnout to vote.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And typically, if you're lucky, you get 12%. Folks, that is that is embarrassing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, there are countries out there that would love, you don't think the people on Iran would love an opportunity to have a free and fair election? How about the people of North Korea?
SPEAKER_03True.
SPEAKER_04You know, they'd love to have that. And we don't take advantage of the gift that our founders gave us to get out and vote. And ladies, you know, 1920 didn't mean nothing. Come on, we we now have the right to vote. What are we doing?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So we got to show up to those primaries because I think the primary is even more important than the general election.
SPEAKER_00Amen. It really is.
SPEAKER_04It is it's gonna determine the caliber of candidates you have on the ticket. So it's it's imperative that you go out and vote in the primary. And the next primary here in South Carolina, while we're talking about primaries, I believe is June 9th. Is that correct, or is it June 11th? I think it's June 9th, is the next primary. So it's an important one. We're gonna be electing our governor. Uh hopefully a new U.S. Senator. We've got several people running against Lindsey Graham. Um, I'm throwing all in for Mark Lynch. So let's see if we can't get some folks to get in there and vote Mr. Lindsey Graham, the warmonger, out of office. Okay. All right, so back to the book. Um, the next quote is from another favorite of mine, Daniel Webster, of course, you know, famous Webster dictionary.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04He says, It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. Whoa, hell is paved with them, right? There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind masters, but they mean to be masters. They think there need be but little restraint upon themselves. The love of power may sink too deep in their own hearts. Man, that is so true. People, politicians make promises. I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. And then they get in office and they don't do any of those things.
SPEAKER_00That's true. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, when I ran this last time, people asked me, you know, what are you gonna do? And I said, Listen, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna make you any promises for anything that I cannot do by myself because I'm one vote, and one vote is not gonna be enough to do everything that all of these politicians are promising they're gonna do. It's not possible. I'm gonna stop slavery. I'm you know, I'm gonna stop this, I'm gonna stop all the people coming across the border, I'm gonna stop tax. No, you're not. You're one vote.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You may vote the right way. So my promise was I will vote according to the Constitution and according to what the majority in my district want. Now, sometimes that majority may go against what I personally believe, but as a representative, you don't put your beliefs before the people you represent because that's that's the incorrect attitude. But far too many of our politicians put the interest of lobbyists and themselves before their yeah, you get it. And then the last one actually comes from the Federalist. If you don't have a lot to do and you're really bored or you need something to help you go to sleep, read the Federalist. Just kidding. It it is can't it they can be interesting, but also a little bit dry.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, these essays are a compilation of works by Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison. So this one comes from number 51. It says if angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficult difficulty lies in this. You must first enable the government to control the governed, and in the second place, oblige it to control itself. And I think we can all agree that when we stepped away and let government control itself, the wheels came off. Uh yeah. That's putting it mildly. So then he lays out um these 28 principles, and each each principle is a chapter. It's not a giant book, though, so don't panic when I say 28 principles, because let me go. Let's see here what we got. We skip past that. It's 310 pages total. Um that I don't think that's a tremendous amount of pages to read. But um, it's just so well done. He talks about, you know, Cicero, he goes back and says, listen, he talked about how we have to have good people versus bad people. And that doesn't just mean good people in this in the voting block. We also need good people to serve, virtuous people. Right. And we've gotten away from having virtuous people in office as well as virtuous people in the voting community. We've got to get back to that. I don't know exactly how we re you know, re-rebirth ourselves in that regard, but we definitely need to. You know, Benjamin Franklin famously said when he came out, and they said, What do we have? Well, a republic if you can keep it, kind of thing. And so we are on the precipice of losing the republic based on things we are doing.
SPEAKER_02You're right.
SPEAKER_04Now, there are lots of people that argue whether or not we are a Christian nation or not a Christian nation, whether we were founded on Christian principles. And of late, I've heard some crazy things that we were actually founded by Muslims. Have you heard that? That one was uh Wow, okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh there's a guy by the name of Alex de Tocqueville who came to the United States, you know, a Frenchman and said, What is going on over there in America? I want to know more about it. So he comes in 1831 and he was so impressed with what he saw here that he actually said that it it he wrote what is considered the best definitive study on American culture and Christianity and the constitutional system that's ever been published, or certainly published in that time. The particular book that he published in was called Democracy in America. And here's kind of what he says just a little bit. On my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention. Let me read that again for those folks who say that our religion had nothing to do with the founding of this nation. A foreigner from France came to America and said, on my arrival in the United States of America, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention. And the longer I stayed there, the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this new stage, rather, new state of things. So it wasn't just American citizens who said, no, we have a Christian founding. It was others who came and saw and noticed and said, Yeah, this is this is an observable, provable thing. Um the book goes on to break down things like racism and and how it was effective and not effective and what you know, what it should be, what it shouldn't be. Kind of one more one more tap onto the Christian country thing. Uh we had a judge, the New York Spectator, August 23rd, 1831. Um the judge had the following say the presiding judge remarked that he had not been before aware that there was a man living who did not believe in the existence of God, that this belief constituted the sanction in law, that which gives binding force of all testimony in a court of justice, and that he knew of no case in a Christian country where a witness has been permitted to testify without such belief. You know, back when we would swear in the Bible, so on and so forth. Um, so I think that to me kind of puts it to bed, this whole idea that we don't have a country built on Christianity, that somehow it was built on deist. Now, I'm not going to tell you that there weren't members of our founding fathers who were not themselves deist, who believed in a God, but not in a particular Christian God.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04But they all pretty much carried the same beliefs and virtue, the same principles that you would find in, say, the the Ten the Ten Commandments found in the Bible. And that's where they derive their deist views from. So they may not have embraced, say, Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, but they certainly took the teachings and the written gospel into account when they made their decisions, when they put into place the things that made our country what it is. Thomas Jefferson, uh, you know, obviously wasn't, I think he would consider himself a deist. But it's also clear that when he's writing the founding documents, this guy had a true sense of a grounding of virtue of God that that he understood men need to have a center. They can't just be about self. They have to put, you know, a being above themselves. So I think that's um that's critical. Um he also goes on to talk about welfare. And um he basically says it's unconstitutional. Welfare isn't, and I cannot help but agree. Let's see here. Um he says uh here's some highlights from the writings of our founders. Let's see, do not help the needy completely, merely help them to help themselves. I think uh one of the uh Benjamin Franklin quotes was uh what was it, build them a hammock, no, a safety net, not a hammock. So you know you don't want to be comfortable, but you catch them if they're gonna fall. Uh give the poor the satisfaction of an earned achievement instead of rewarding them without achievement, which again goes back to we don't want to just give them free cash for sitting on their buck and doing nothing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Allow the poor to climb the appreciation ladder from tents to cabins, cabins to cottages, cottages to comfortable houses. Where emergency help is provided, do not prolong it to the point where it becomes habitual. We have that as a problem right now for sure. And strictly enforce the scale of fixed responsibility. The first and foremost level of responsibility is with the individual himself, the second level is the family, then the church, next the community, and finally the country. And in a disaster or emergency, the state, under no circumstances, is a federal government to become involved in public welfare. What? Yeah, wait a minute, we're doing that wrong. The founders felt it would corrupt the government and also the poor. No constitutional authority exists for the federal government to participate in charity or welfare. I mean, that is, folks, that is absolutely there. You can't justify the federal government handing out dollars to anybody in the United States, and I'll even go one step further, giving charity to these foreign nations. It's ridiculous. Absolutely. It's not constitutional and it needs to stop. We need to roll back in, let's really focus on what America First truly means. And it doesn't mean how many billions can we give to this country and how much can I scrape off the top?
SPEAKER_00It's like I'm listening to Ron Paul.
SPEAKER_04Really? Truly.
unknownYou are not that wrong.
SPEAKER_04Um, he talks about the greatest right of all is property. And this is one I could beat this drum until my last breath.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04We have um gotten away from the concept of property because truthfully, you and I, we may have a home, we may have a vehicle, but as long as we're having to pay a tax to the government for owning said property and said vehicle, we don't own it.
SPEAKER_00No, we're renting it.
SPEAKER_04We're renting it. And so, you know, some of the things they said is that all men are born free and independent and have certain natural, essential, and unalienable rights, which folks means they can't be taken away from you. They're God-given, um, creator-given, whatever you want to call it. Among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties, that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and find that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness. Now that's from the wonderful writings of Mr. John Adams. So right now we have we have issues. I've seen certain states, like I know Florida's pushing for a lifting of property rights. Um, Nancy Mace came and spoke here a few weeks back, and I spoke to her about it because she said, Well, I'm gonna try to take away uh income tax. And I looked around the room and you know, I'm 55, and I was literally the youngest person in the room, and I said, I don't really think this applies to the people in this room. We're all retired. And so a better application would be to get rid of property taxes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And um certainly personal property taxes. And she said, Oh, well, that would be really hard to do, and you know, you'd have to go through uh through the legislature. And I thought, well, did they change it? And you can now just wave a wand and get rid of income taxes without going through the legislature. Yeah, like I that answer fell pretty flat for me, and I kind of rebutted it, and then she wanted to move on as one might imagine. So um I I don't disagree with her on getting rid of income tax. Quick quiz note Do you know when income tax became a thing or why it became a thing?
SPEAKER_00Uh I believe, no, I believe it was World War II that they they uh put it in as a temporary measure.
SPEAKER_04Temporary, yeah.
SPEAKER_00To fund the world. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So we've been funding World War II now for how many years? I'm telling you what. Um the 11th principle is probably one of the ones that just pops out to me. Um, especially for those of you who tuned in to the episode I did on the uh the fictional book called Revolt. Oh this one kind of hops out.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_04Uh the principle is the majority of people may alter or abolish a government which has become tyrannical.
SPEAKER_00There we go. Yep.
SPEAKER_04Now that was our justification for declaring independence anyway. But I would say when a government starts to take away your right to own property, which is an unalienable right, um, then they are basically moving quickly towards tyranny. And we need to certainly uh put that back in check. So I'm I'm all for stopping that nonsense because if you take away some of that money, they won't be able to fund endless wars and welfare projects and uh illegal immigrants putting them up in hotels and fraud and all the things that we have going on in multiple states. Here in South Carolina, Minnesota, California, you got what childcare fraud, um, health services fraud, hospice fraud. I mean, fraud is just rampant, and um we've got to get it back under control for sure. I think letting this continue to spiral out of control is not helping anybody. Um the 14th principle is gonna hit back again on that property aspect. It says life and liberty are secure only so long as the right of property is secure. And folks, again, you know, I've seen too many stories, I'm sure you have as well, of people who've had property and they've wanted to, you know, build a smaller house or build an additional house for one of their children.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And they go and they have to get permits. And the permitted office says, Oh no, sorry, you can't build that. Excuse me. Is it a safety issue? What why why? Why can't oh well we just don't want you to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04What? I'm why you know. I understand if someone comes and says, Well, I want to put in this factory and I'm gonna build this chemical and it could be potentially poisonous for the environment, I understand having some restrictions on that. Or, you know, your house is next to a church or a school and you say, I'd like to open up a brewery and start selling alcohol or whatever. Ah, sorry, you know, we have problems with that. But to tell someone who's got thirty-two acres of land or two hundred acres of land, there's a I'm Referring to a specific story of a woman who had 32 acres and she wanted to build two small homes on her uh property uh within a five acre area of the 32 acres for her two children. And she was told, nope, can't do it. Why? Um or you have eminent domain, which has been uh oh my gosh, it's it's it's unconstitutional how they've used that. You know, they're coming in and taking people's private property. Now, initially that was designed for the railroad. Okay, they want to put a railroad through, and farmers said, You're not putting it through my land, blah blah blah. And so the eminent domain, they took it because it's gonna be in the best interest of everybody to have this continental railroad. Well, now it's become this extrapolation of, well, you have these houses in this area that's beatsfront property, and it's really pretty. So we're gonna take that through eminent domain, and then we're gonna sell your property to these mega corporations who are gonna come in and build these huge hotels, and that's gonna help the economy because it's gonna bring in jobs and blah blah blah. But no, you don't have the right to do that. That is not what the Constitution intended. And people need to start pushing back against that.
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, even locally we had the problem with uh with our downtown. They were they they wanted to grab grab the old iconic buildings from downtown because they th that said they were deteriorating and so on and so forth. No, it wasn't. It was because they wanted to, like you said, give it to some brother-in-law that had a uh a contracting company or something.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and that's problematic because that that's when you get into what we saw um two years ago, I guess it was, where we gave over a billion dollars to a foreign company, uh car company, to go and build a factory up in uh near the Charleston area.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Folks, we we we shouldn't be picking winners and losers. No. Now, if you want to make it such that the regulations are inviting two companies to come here and build because you're not gonna charge them exorbitant taxes or fees because they're a company, that's one thing. But to give them a cash handout is absolutely absurd. I mean, it's infuriating. At the time, I was a small business owner and I thought to myself, if you would split that up, they could have given, I think, I think I figured did the math on. It was like over$100,000 to over 26,000 businesses across South Carolina could have been given money. Oh, yeah. With that amount of money, I could have hired but two people, um, which is way more than what they're gonna hire.
SPEAKER_00It drives me crazy when you've got these uh communities that are building these enormous sports centers. Because the other one is four years old. I mean, it it costs billions of dollars. Right. It doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_04No, you know, no, uh 15th principle: highest level of prosperity occurs when there is a free market economy and a minimum of government regulations. Talking to you, Mr. Mamdani. Highest level of prosperity occurs when there is a free market economy and minimal government regulations. So, folks up in New York who are now suffering under the rule of a communist dictator, congratulations for voting in your demise, you foolish, foolish people.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's it's I've grabbed the popcorn. It has been entertaining.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, um, I particularly like De Niro, who was a big supporter of his. He's actually now complaining. I supported him, and now he's trying to raise taxes on me. I'm thinking, great. Glad to see it. That's right. But initially, of course, Mandani was like, oh, I'm just gonna raise taxes on the wealthiest, and now it's like, well, people that make$750,000 or have properties valued at$750,000. Name a house in New York City that is not worth that amount.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Come on. You just about can't find those in South Carolina here anymore. I mean, they're getting they're getting out there.
SPEAKER_02True.
SPEAKER_04Um 18th principle: the unatable rights of the people are most likely to be preserved if the principles of government are set forth in a written constitution. Plenty of countries attempted this without a written constitution and they did not succeed. Um 22nd principle, a free people should be governed by law and not by the whims of men or judges who decide, well, he had a really hard upbringing, so you can't really blame him for murdering those three people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know. Well, it's really crowded in the the uh jails right now. So it's terrible.
SPEAKER_04We're just gonna let him we'll give him another chance. But ma'am, this is his twelfth time. Well, he won't do it again, right, son? He won't do it again, no ma'am.
SPEAKER_00He's unlucky.
SPEAKER_04Right. Uh and this is something that we need to address quickly because we are not producing enough citizens to replace ourselves.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04The 26th principle, the core unit which determines the strength of any society is the family. Therefore, a government should foster and protect its integrity, not break it down by trying to create non-familiar uh organizations like transgender men and transgender women. And uh just it's ridiculous. Okay, we need to encourage people to marry and have children and and do it in the way that is gonna be beneficial to citizens.
SPEAKER_00It doesn't take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
SPEAKER_04That's right. Two virtuous, somewhat intelligent parents. Um and the last one that I'm gonna end with, it's not the last principle, but is the one I'm gonna end with, is um the 27th principle. And I I end with this one because this one, this is gonna get us. It's like, what's gonna get us in the end? I think this is gonna be it. Debt. The 27th principle, the burden of debt is as destructive to freedom as subjugation by conquest. As we watch our national debt spiral over the trillion dollar mark, I I cannot help but imagine all of our founding fathers and mothers saying, What happened? This is not what we meant. Benjamin Franklin, here's a quote Think what you do when you run in debt. You give another power over your liberty. That is exactly right. I mean, just to jump to China real quick. The uh what is it called? Uh uh not bricks, but um their road initiative that they were they were pushing to spread China, whatever, philosophy, ideology, ideology, whatever, around the world. What they would do is they would go in and say, hey, we'll give you a loan for XYZ and you know, we'll help you out. And they would give these loans knowing that the people they were giving the loan to couldn't afford to pay it back. And then they would basically secure that loan with property. And so, you know, a year, two years goes by, as expected, they're unable to pay. And so China says, Well, we'll just take this now. This will be it. And so that's kind of what they were doing with their road initiative. And so we need to understand that that is something that um Trump is pushing back on that with his push in Venezuela and throughout uh South and Central America, even um with the Panama Canal, etc. So there's a lot of things that this book was written in 1981, it is now 2026, and I can't I can't think of one principle that he covers in this book that is not relevant to today. So if you want to pick up a book that that reads like it was written last week, pick up this book, The 5,000 Year Leap by Cleon Skawson, and you will not be disappointed. Uh, you may be frustrated to see how far we've fallen from what our founders intended.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_04But it is a great starting point. Uh next week we'll pick up another book that uh Cleon has written that is just as gripping and maybe even more uh timely. Um I'm amazed how the number of books I've read in the past seem to just be applicable today. And again, it feels like this must have been written last week, or they must have written this at the end of last year.
SPEAKER_00So it's it's a timeless read, it really is.
SPEAKER_04Correct. It is a timeless read. Um and I don't know uh how you get a guy who starts off as an actor, you know, and he leaves and goes to DC and he's like di dabbling in the politics and he says, I don't like that. And then he goes into the FBI and does law enforcement, and then he goes out and gets back into Hollywood again.
SPEAKER_00That that sounds like a great movie, too.
SPEAKER_04I mean, it really does. It really does. And again, you know, passed away in 2006. So we lost uh a legend in 2006. Uh his son has written uh a couple books as well, but um, so we'll we're gonna cover him for the next couple of uh episodes anyway. I'll just tell you some great books to read. But folks, thank you for tuning in. If you enjoy this, please like us, subscribe to us. It's free, it doesn't cost you anything. Share this with your friends, and then check out uh Liberty Crack Media. There are tons of other fantastic podcasts that I think you're gonna enjoy if you just give it a listen. Pop it in your car, listen to it, let us know what you think. Comment. We love to get your comments, suggestions. You got a book you think I should read and talk about? Be happy to do it. You've written a book, call us, we'll get you on here. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_00Well, thank you. And this has been another episode of The Book World Mom.
