The Naked Capitalist by W. Cleon Skousen

Shannon discusses the book The Naked Capitalist by W. Cleon Skousen,  In her review, she cross-references other reads that are listed below.  Listen and go on the journey as she takes us all down the rabbit hole of politics, history and the quest for power.

Warning to the West by Alexander Solzhonitsyn

The Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhonitsyn

The Road to Serfdom by F. A. Hayek

The Creature from Jekyll Island by Edward Griffin

Live Not By Lies by Rod Dreher

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Good morning uh or good evening or good afternoon, whenever you're listening to the podcast here. It's morning for us. Um welcome back to another edition of the book Worm Mom. Today we're gonna wrap up our um three-part discussion of a gentleman by the name of Cleon Scosen. Um the final book in this segment that I've been doing is called The Naked Capitalist. We previously did The Naked Communist, and prior to that we did um the 5,000-year leap. A lot of naked stuff going on here. Yeah, yeah. Poor mom. And of course, have nothing to do with actual nudity. You know, just like the naked truth, the real truth, no covering it up, no hiding. So yeah. No covering up what communism is, and then and this is him shedding light on what's going on in the capitalist world.

SPEAKER_03 0:54

Not a picture book, folks.

unknown 0:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

And what's interesting is this second, or this last book rather, uh, in the series is really not at all what you would think it is. Because when we talked about the naked communists, he basically broke down all of the all of the fallacies and and things of communism. So you would expect that to be something of what we would would see in the book, The Naked Capitalist. But really and truly, it's 144 pages, so it's not super long. Uh, for anybody out there that sighed when I said that, come on. You can't read 150 pages, you got problems. Although that is a problem. We don't have young people today, don't read.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Adults don't read. So anything over, you know, a sound bite worth of information is, you know, oh my God, it's so d oh no, you've got to read, folks. You gotta make yourself read. But the book, The Naked Capitalist, is really a review of a much larger book called The Tragedy, excuse me, called Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Dr. Carol Quigley. And that book is 1,300 pages. Yeah, it's a thick book you have here. Big old, big old book. Um, and so 144 pages compared to that is quite different. And if you were in the studio today, you would see that I have a plethora of other books laid out here on the table. Because today we're gonna talk about um tying things together and how when you start reading, or at least if you're like me and you're reading for research, not just reading for pure pleasure, which that's a good thing to do as well. But I don't think anybody's gonna pick up Alexander Solsenissen's book, Warning to the West, for pleasure reading. Reading this because it's a warning of what is coming if you don't get things straight. And then we've got over here Rules for Radicals, uh, Sololinsky. We've talked a lot about that book. Um, I actually had to buy another copy. I'd loaned my original copy out that had all the little tags on it.

SPEAKER_03 2:46

Yeah, radical wouldn't give it back.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

I didn't get yes, dirty rascal. Um, and then uh another good book uh by J. Edgar Hoover, uh Masters of Deceit: The Story of Communism in America and How to Fight It is another really good book. And of course, uh, those of you remember the first uh episode we did, we talked about uh Cleon Close's background as a FBI agent, uh, 16 years, worked very closely with Edgar Hoover. Now, I don't Edgar Hoover gets some some negative press, if you will, and deservedly so. There's some things he did that I don't agree with, and but then is there any person anywhere at any time, save Jesus, who doesn't have things about them that are not perfect?

SPEAKER_03 3:30

Eric Swalwall. Oh swinging from the bottom of the deck.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

I mean, you know what I'm saying, really. But um, so just got some really good books out here, kind of want to talk about because as we get into this particular book, I think it's gonna spill over to all the other reading that I've um done. Now, my reading was primarily focused on dealing with communism, the threat of Marxism, and specifically coming from China. So that plays a pivotal role. And uh, so I'm gonna read a little bit from chapter one. Uh, starts off with a quote that I think is pretty good. Uh, the chapter is entitled, Who is Trying to Take Over the World? And the quote is quote, I think the communist conspiracy is merely a branch of a much bigger conspiracy. Now, who among us has not had a conspiracy theory come true lately?

SPEAKER_03 4:26

Ah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

I mean, the joke now is I need new conspiracies because all my old ones came true. That's right. Um, so the above statement was made to Colson several years ago by Dr. Bella Dodd. Uh, she's a former member of the National Committee of the U.S. Communist Party. So now that you know that she's a former member of the U.S. National Communist Party, let me read that quote to you again. I think the communist conspiracy is merely a branch of a much bigger conspiracy. All right. So that plays into dun dun dun in the 60s and of course early 60s, late 50s. Um, let's see, somebody was assassinated. It was a pretty big president at the time. I think his name was JFK. Anyway. Um, so perhaps this is an appropriate introduction to a review of Dr. Carol Quigley's book, Tragedy and Hope. Dr. Dodd said she first became aware of some mysterious super leadership right after the end of World War II, when the U.S. Communist Party had difficulty getting instructions from Moscow on several vital matters requiring immediate attention. Um, a lot of people don't realize we already had Soviet spies within the United States during the war, not just after, and obviously the lines of communication, because when World War II ended, what essentially began was the Cold War. Yeah. Almost immediately after. I mean, you think about the Berlin Wall.

SPEAKER_03 5:49

And the theft of our nuclear secrets.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

Exactly. All of these things started taking place. So we already had Soviet spies in the United States. Um, so the American communist hierarchy was told if you have any questions uh of any kind of emergency nature, you need to take those questions to one of the three designated people at the Waldorf Towers. And Dr. Dodd noted that whenever the party obtained instructions from any of those three men, Moscow would always ratify, which just means they'd always approve them. Um what puzzled Dr. Dodd was the fact that not one of these three contacts was themselves Russian, nor were any of them active communist. In fact, all three were extremely wealthy American capitalists. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

And she goes on to say, I'd certainly like to find out who is really running things. Now Closen says, you know, I observed a number of strange developments which seem to point to a conspiratorial control center much higher and stronger than either Moscow or Beijing. And again, now he's at the FBI, so he's actually investigating the communist trade at this time. So this is something that would have been right up his alley. He says, for example, and this to me, this should jump out at every American. And this is where I why I brought all these books in, because I think people really need to do a deep dive and do some homework that they haven't done. And most of these books were written some time ago. Um, but again, for example, when Harry Dexter White, who was the under-secretary of the U.S. Treasury during World War II, let me say that again. This guy's name Harry Dexter White, Under Secretary of the United States Treasury during World War II. So I don't know, Tripp, would you say that's an important position? Yeah, I think so. Somewhat important position. Um, he was discovered by the FBI to be a Soviet agent.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Incredible.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

The White House was, of course, immediately informed, and the White House at that time would have been Mr. Truman. But instead of being fired or arrested, as we would all expect, Mr. Dexter White was appointed as the new executive director of the United States mission to the International Monetary Fund at the United Nations. He was given a substantial increase in salary, and Edgar Hoover was stunned and amazed. Attorney General Herbert Brownwell stated publicly that President Truman knew that White was a Soviet spy when he made the appointment. Wow. So why on earth?

SPEAKER_03 8:20

It tells a lot about Truman.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Yeah. Why on earth would our U.S. government and our president be okay with having a Soviet, a communist spy in such a high and prestigious and important position, and then put him in another high and important and prestigious position within the United Nations. Now, the United Nations was, you know, kind of a thought at that time. It wasn't fully um created. And so I want to tell you right now, everybody needs to get this book. It's an older book, so it's not not super easy to come to come by, but I've got a copy. It's called The UN Record: Ten Fateful Years for America. It's written by Chesley Manley. That's C-H-E-S-L-Y, Manley M-A-N-L-Y. And he also wrote the book, The 20 Year Revolution. He basically lays out that the entire conception, creation, uh, et cetera, of the United Nations was 100% communist. Yeah. All of it communist. Um, from its inception, communist. Now, let's go back. Who was our president? Truman. What did he know? He knew that Mr. White was a Soviet communist spy. What did he do? He put him in charge of the United States inception into the United Nations, an already known communist person going into an agency that is, was, and will always be a communist entity, and yet we send how many billions of dollars do we send to this inf oh my god. Anyway. Infuriating. Um so folks, I mean, I I don't I don't pretend to know everything, and and I know there are people out there that would listen to this podcast today and say, oh my God, she's this conspiracy nut, whatever. What I'm telling you is that you can read books from all manner of people and they will guide you to the same information. Now, for libertarians, this is all important because uh a very significant event took place on August 25th, 1945. Now, this is a couple of what about two, three weeks after the full ending of World War II, after the dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima Nagasaki. A captain in the what was then the uh Army Air Corps, what currently today would be called the Air Force, a young captain was killed. 27 years of age, uh, was killed. So the war's over. Originally his family was told he was killed by a stray bullet because our government suppressed who really killed him. Turns out the people who really killed him were the communist Chinese.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

And this gentleman's name uh has lived on for decades in a group named after him called the John Birch Society.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Uh so Captain John Birch uh obviously didn't live and he didn't start the society himself, but it was named after him because he was one of the premier intelligence guys, uh, highly decorated, and our government did not want anybody to know that the communists had killed him, which is interesting because what about the domino theory? What about we didn't want communism to spread? Why are we not working with Shang Kai-shek and the nationalists in China? This is in 1945. Now they don't take the communists don't take over China until 1949 fully. That's when Shang Kai shek leaves, goes to the island of Taiwan. Um so again, why are we working with the communist?

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

I I anyway.

SPEAKER_03 11:58

Oh yeah. So um and we withdrew all of our uh air support, uh which we had had throughout the entire war.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

And if we had maintained that, they would have very easily have the the communists were were basically beaten um in China. And then, as you said, we pulled out and left them kind of hanging, and things didn't didn't go well from there. Now, make of that what you will. I know what I make of it. Um my thought process is we left them uh hanging out to drive. And I don't understand why we did that, but for anybody who thinks, oh well, you know, we didn't really um have any role or any pivotal um part in what happened in China, it's just not true.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

That's um that's correct. I agree with you a hundred percent on that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Yeah, so there's another good book you need to read uh by Edgar Snow, not Snowden, Edgar Snow. It is the classic account of the birth of Chinese communism. It's called Red Star Over China. You gotta read that book. Um if you want to kind of understand a little bit more about the Treasury and the things that are happening within our government in terms of um well, we should just ask Donald Trump because he knows everything. I'm sorry, that was me being sarcastic. Um there's a book written by Edward Griffin, and it's called The Creature from Jekyll Island, and it's not um it is not fiction. No, it's it's nonfiction. And it is, again, this is one of those books as you can see, I've got a little, it's a little porcupine. Um I I read this book and I read this book twice because it one first of all, I will tell you folks, this is not an easy book to read. I'm not gonna kid you, because you it it does require a little brain power to get through it and understand what's going on. But the basic story is this uh it was 1914, uh, a group of very powerful men got together and created the the Federal Reserve, and um we've been captured to them ever since. Uh there were six men. They attended the the first meeting on Jekyll Island. This is where the Federal Reserve System was conceived. Um, these guys were Nelson Aldrich, uh Republican whip in the Senate, chairman of the National Monetary Commission, father-in-law to John D. Rockefeller Jr., uh Henry P. Davison, senior partner of JP Morgan, uh A. Pyatt Andrew, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Franklin Vanderlip, president of the National City Bank of New York, who represented William Rockefeller, Benjamin Strong, who was the head of JP Morgan's Bankers Trust Company and later became the head of the system, and Paul Warburg, a partner in Kuhn, Loeb and Company representing the Rothschilds and Warbugs in Europe. So I mean, bum, bum, bum. Oh, yeah. Very conspiratorial. Um, folks, the facts don't lie. As you're reading through this and you start, I mean, if I if I had the time, and and I may do this at some point in time. I can't do it now because you know, we are getting ready to move to Hawaii, so we're we're boxing up things. But if not, I would literally have one of those walls. You've seen it in the movies where they got the conspiracy guy and he's got string and you know, little pegs and a wall, and the string is going to hear. I that's what I would do because these books create a web of connections.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

Oh, Ron Paul had several like little talks or podcasts uh just about the uh conspiracy of uh Jekyll Island and what they they did to us. But he he did a fantastic job of it. And it's a it's a if every if anybody looks it up, it's a younger Ron Paul. So it's yeah, it makes it a little bit more energy to it and so on. So um yeah, but that is it, even though it's a dry subject, yeah, it's a very important one for people to understand because a lot of people misunderstand uh the Fed the Federal Reserve and its role in our in our destruction of our economy.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Absolutely. It's it's critical. And who it destroys versus who it helps is also a pivotal point, which kind of goes back to again the book Um The Naked Capitalist, because he talks about Kleon uh Scosin talks about the fact that you would expect that we'd have communists within our government doing all this destructive stuff. Well, a lot of these capitalists were pushing for a socialist system. Um the other day I was listening to a guy, his name is Um Robert Pape, um, and he is an expert on bombing, on the U.S. government using bombs in in warfare. So he's had extensive commentary on the war in Iran and the mistakes that have been made and why bombing alone is not gonna be successful, so on and so on and so forth. Thus far, he's right. He's been 100% correct. We've bombed them back to the quote unquote stone age, and they still have the power, regardless of what our president says and what our navy says and what anybody out there says. Folks, you can say whatever you want. Do we have a superior navy? Of course. They don't even have a navy, their navy's at the bottom of the ocean. Right. But guess what they're still able to do? Attack ships that come through the Straits of Hormuz. So we cannot guarantee safe passage to every vessel going through the Straits of Hormuz if Iran doesn't want that to happen. And that's just a fact. I mean, you get mad all you want, stomp your feet, call me whatever you want to call me, uh tell me I have TDS, whatever. I don't care. Right. It's a fact. They can use drones, they can use small arm fire. I mean, literally a fishing boat is all you need to go out there and drop a mine, and if a boat hits a mine, you have to anyway. So that's that's a problem. So pretend all you want about who has control of the Straits of Hormoes, but the bottom line is this yes, United States can certainly put in a blockade and prevent any ships from going through the Straits of Hormouths. That's true. That's a that is a true statement. But you know what else is equally true? Iran can continue to attack ships that go through the Straits of Hormouth. So it's just it is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

And it's not even Iran, it's just these uh uh remnants of the Hezbollah IRGC, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Right. Um and it and of course, if the IRGC does not recognize anybody who's representing Iran and the talks happening in Pakistan, then are we really talking to the right people?

SPEAKER_02 18:08

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Because the IRGC had several million men uh in their force. So and that's who that's we're getting off on the I'm sorry, I start getting the blood pressure up, but I just think it's frustrating when people will come on and say, Oh, you can't criticize the president. Yes, I can. Yes, I can. And it doesn't mean I'm a Democrat because I'm not. There's not a Democrat alive that I would vote for. Not one. They're all nuts, they're all they have been captured wholly by the communist regime. They're all communists. There's no Democrat who's not a communist. Sorry, all of them. Every last one of them. Now, there are some who may break free from that thought process, that um socialist communist dogma. I do think it's possible. Fetterman has a he has a possibility, but what people need to understand, because I've seen people say, oh, we should vote for Fetterman, you know, he should leave the Democratic Party and become a Republican. Please understand, 92% of the time he votes with Democrats.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

That means only 8% of the time does he vote with Trump's agenda.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

I mean, even Lindsey Graham has a better voting record than that.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

And he's when he shows up.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Yeah, when he's not in Israel doing their bidding. I'm sorry, this is turning out to be an ugly podcast. I do apologize to those of you listening because it's not normally where we go. Um, but to have a greater understanding of all of the things that are encapsulated in this book, you need to read other books.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

So I've talked about this book several times. It's called The Gulang Archipelago: An Experiment in Literary Investigation by Alexander Solsenis. Now, this guy doesn't write a book based on stories he's told. He writes this book based on stories he lived. He was there, he was a part of this whole horrific experience. And so he's got photographs in here. Um, I mean, detailed, intimate stories of what it was like and escaping and getting out, all of the things. You you have to read this. This is a gripping book to tell you a little bit about what his life was like. And I've already read to you the title of his other book, Alexander Solsenison's Warning to the West. Um, and in this, it's basically a compilation of speeches that he gave across the United States back in the late 70s when he was freed from the gulags and allowed to come to America. So starting in June 30th of 1975, uh, all the way up to when he's actually speaking to the British in 76. Just a tremendous amount of speeches that, I mean, folks, it's not a thick book, this is not a thick book. I think this is even 150 pages. 145 pages, okay? You anybody can sit down and read 145 pages. You gotta read this. It is just um, I'll just read you one little one little thing out of here. The most frightening aspect of world communist of the world communist system is its unity, its cohesion. Uh, Enrico Berlinger said quite literally recently that the sun had set on comintern, but not at all. That's communist internship. But not at all. It hasn't set. Its energy has been transformed into electricity, which is now pulsing through underground cables. The sun of communism today spreads its energy everywhere in the form of high voltage electricity. Quite recently, there was an incident when Western communists indignantly denied that Portugal was operating on instructions from Moscow. Of course, Moscow also denied this. And then it was discovered that those very orders had been openly published in Soviet magazines, Problems of Peace and Socialisms. I mean, so I'm just that's just one little segment. So this goes back to when he opens up his book talking about the fact that at the end of World War II, when the Soviets had difficulty getting messages to their uh agents in the United States, they had these three capitalist guys that they had set up as their go betweens.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

And these guys recognized what everybody who's ever championed a Ca communism should also recognize. True communism means everybody's equal. And it what is the great line in the uh the famous book Animal Farm? Uh all animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others. Which there's a movie coming out, it's animated that's supposed to be uh based on that book. I don't know whether it's it's not.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

Okay. I I was like, I I did I just saw the poster, so I don't know whether it's a true representation from uh Angel Studios, which does often have great things, right? But the problem is that the spin is not uh on uh seeing the evils of socialism and Marxism, yeah, which is what Animal Farm was always it's instead uh it's on uh authority and you know so it's more a book about author uh movie about authoritarianism, which is not what communism is, is it because they they fool you into thinking everybody's gonna sit around a campfire and sing kumbaya when it's all said and done.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

And the the the theory is an individual or a small group of individuals, an oligarchy, if you will, will help take over all of the businesses and take it from the rich bourgeoisie and and you know and bring it down to the proletariat, and everybody gets to live equally and we all each according to his needs, and blah blah blah. Okay, and then at some point in time, when we've reached this level of equilibrium, equilibrium where everybody's equal, right? They'll step down from their high positions of authority and just meld into the general population and become like everyone else.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

That's never happened, and it's never going to happen.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

No.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Um the latest example of this, what I call sheer nonsense, is Elon Musk is uh piping this dream out that once AI takes over all of the jobs, the menial labor jobs that currently are being performed by humans, we will all be able to sit at home and love on one another and just enjoy the fruits of our non-labour. And the government will send us checks. And now he started off by calling it uh UBI, a universal basic income, and he realized that word basic was offensive to most people.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

Because it sounds a lot like welfare.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

So this is this is a forwardist. Um I I talked about on um on another podcast we had uh the the uh we have some forwardists uh that are member of the forward party. Yeah, forward that are and this is something that Andrew Yang has has put forward. Uh and um yeah, we already have that. It's called welfare. Yeah, yeah. And it don't work.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

It don't work. Well, and then he goes on, he changes it from universal basic income because that basic word was kind of offensive to everybody. Now he's calling it universal high income. And so I've you know, of course, he he gets millions of responses, if you will, or commentary. But I have asked multiple times define what high means. Does that mean we all live in mansions, we all drive Teslas or Porsches or 9-11, you know, or Mercedes or whatever?

SPEAKER_03 25:03

Or is it do we only get the basics of what we need?

SPEAKER_01 25:07

What we need, each according to what it is, or do we all get to fly first class on vacations to Europe and do we have a second home in the Maldives? I mean, what does that mean? Right. Um, because there are people who have that ability now, and I will not believe for one millisecond that those individuals are gonna give that up and give up part of their pie that they worked for, that fairly that they worked for, yeah, and give it to individuals who have not worked for it. I wouldn't do it.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

If I've worked my butt off, which I have, and so we have things, materialistic things that we have come into possession through our hard work, and I'm not gonna relinquish those things because somebody else who isn't willing, able, or capable of working would like to have them.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Not doing that.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

So that to me harkens back to something that we've been talking about communism. So if you want to understand how it is that a capitalist, which that's what Elon is, he's a capitalist. I mean, this dude, he's like the perfect example of it. I mean, you know, not even not even American born, uh, comes from Africa, South Africa, moves to the United States, gets his citizenship. I mean, and he's done tremendous things. I'm not don't don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the guy. I think what he's done with X has been incredible. Tesla is, you know, a genius uh company that was initially thought to be, oh, he's wasting his time and his money, this is never going anywhere, and and that hasn't been the case. I mean, he's got the market share on EVs, um, and what he's been able to do with space exploration is staggering. Yeah. This idea that he's kind of pushed off setting up a colony on Mars, and now he's looking at setting up a colony on the moon, a lunar colony, which makes much more sense to me in terms of having that happen in your lifetime. Um but again, I I go back to what communists always refer to as useful idiots, useful tools. Yeah. And I think sometimes that there are capitalist pigs out there, and I'm using that word, and and the negative connotation that the communists mean it has, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Who have been pulled in, sucked into this communist world and told, oh, we're going to make you the capital people at the top, and you will help everyone achieve the greatness that you have achieved. And they say, Oh my, that'd be so great.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Because I do believe that Elon genuinely wants to help everybody. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, he's made that very clear in conflict after conflict, where he's put his satellites up so they could have access to internet and you know, uh destructive area, he's given money. He's very philanthropic in that way. I so I I don't believe for a second that he has in his heart some vile duplicitist um reasoning behind why he does these things. But I do think in a lot of ways, people like him can be manipulated by this communist monster that convinces them what you're doing is for the greater good. Yeah. Um Bill Gates is another good example of that. Yeah, I think Bill Gates is a little more duplicitous. I do think he has a pretty big evil streak in him. Yeah. Um so I we're we're kind of, you know, I'm not giving you a true uh breakdown of that book because again, it's a review of another book, but I think it's important for you to read it. But there's another good book. It's called Live Not by Lies. Uh it's a manual for Christian dissidents written by Rod Dreyer. It's it's a New York bestseller. This quote actually comes from, again, Alexander Solsenis. And this guy just, I mean, it's so important. Um any book, any speech, anything that you can get and read from him, I think you should read anything Alexander Solcines has put out, you need to read it. Uh, in terms of more on the creature from Jekyll Island and understanding economically, socially, what that book really plays into. You can't get away from reading the book The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek.

SPEAKER_03 28:52

That is truly a must-read.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

It's a must-read. It's a must-read. Thomas Sowell is another excellent economist who himself was uh released from the dogma of communism. He was initially a socialist, Marxist, whatever, broke away from that, you know, had the epiphany like what? And since that time has been just a beacon of light for um what we need to have occur. And yeah, I think Thomas he's in his 90s now, I think.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Um, you know, I I don't want to see him gone anytime soon. So again, these are just a few examples of of books that you have to read. Another one, uh, Socialism, the economic and sociological analysis by Mises. You allude with Mises, uh on Mises. You folks, you gotta read these books.

SPEAKER_03 29:40

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

You do. And I know that makes me sound like a giant nerd. I I embrace it.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

But these Austrian economists are are fantastic. There's a new there's a new book out too, and uh can you believe it? I'm actually gonna be bringing a book up. So it's uh The Triumph of Economic Freedom. It was uh published last year, and um it is kind of a a wake-up call to everybody of the positivity of capitalism if you let it work, if you let it, if you let the markets be free. Right, truly free. Truly free, yeah. Which hands off, let's say yeah, yeah. So if people want to know more about it, they just want a taste of it, uh Stoss will just put out a video on it yesterday, I think.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Oh, John Soss is awesome. Yeah, he's a diehard libertarian as well. But yeah, good guy. I've got a couple of his books at home as well. Um, so so I know this has been a different podcast and that I haven't specifically gone through the book, but I just want you guys to understand there are so many books out there that kind of all are interwoven. They create this wonderful basket of knowledge. And I think each book is dependent on the other book, dependent on the other book. So you should never just read one particular subject or one particular author on a subject and think, well, that's that's a definitive I don't the only exception that I will give you of any book that I would say is the definitive written knowledge is the Bible.

SPEAKER_03 31:00

Oh, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Now that was definitive, but that's also God inspired, so you know, I'm not God, you're not God, there's no God on earth. Donald Trump is not God, uh, despite what his ridiculous female religious advisor says. Um absurdity. I'm sorry, I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate mail off my comments on that, but I don't, I'm sorry. I just cannot, I cannot, I'm not gonna pretend anymore. I'm done with pretending. There you go. So I'm just gonna speak truth. You don't like it, uh, get over yourself.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Speak truth and social.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Exactly, exactly. So uh the book for this week, uh wrapping up all of the things that uh you there's a lot of other books by Cleon Scouts, and he's written several, but you know, the last one again, the the capitalist, uh naked capitalist, is just a review of Tragedy and Hope and Carol Quigley's book basically uh is an argument, in my opinion, an argument for why communism is the way to go. Yeah. Um, and you know, going back to what I was saying earlier about Robert Pape and his his vision of Iran, because I don't think I really specified this. I'm listening to this interview, and I think it was on Diary of a CEO that he was talking, and he was talking about how he didn't the government, the way our country is running is not is not the way to work, and that we should have a different system. And so Stephen says, Well, you know, what system do you recommend? What country do you think is doing it right? And he says, Oh, well, China, China's doing it right. And even Stevens is incredibly, he was like, The communist? He's like, Are you saying communism? And he and he was trying to tap dance around it. And I was like, Okay, here's a guy, yeah, you know, dressed as a communist outwardly, but inwardly he's a communist. Yeah, you know, he's pretending outwardly to be a capitalist, but inwardly he's a communist in every sense of the word. And so like he just pulled, he just pulled the curtain back. You got a little tiny peek behind the curtain. And so now everything he's ever said, I'm sort of like, oh, now I gotta go back and review all the things he said because it's all suspect. Yeah. Um you gotta know the origin.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

He likes the idea of uh uh top-down, somebody on top can make you know uh snap their fingers and all of a sudden that's it's law and everybody has to react to it.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Unless it's Trump. No, he doesn't want it to be Trump because he thinks Trump's an idiot and Trump can't be the guy. Um I don't agree with a lot of what Trump has done recently, but I don't want anybody to have that kind of a power. No, period. Nobody. That's exactly it.

SPEAKER_03 33:20

So I I just I like the idea that we've uh been able to recently dismantle a lot of things, but then again, that's the little bit of the tiny bit of anarchy that I I am looking forward to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

You anarchist.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

Well, you libertarians are all about chaos anyway. Just kidding. That's right. Well, folks, that that is uh gonna wrap up this particular episode. Please, if you get a chance, check out those books, uh, The 5,000 Year Leap, The Naked Communist, and the Nicked Capitalist. You won't be disappointed. They're all riveting reads. You're gonna learn a whole lot, and it's gonna lead you down a rabbit hole just like I have been led down, and you're gonna find some more fantastic books to read. So if you like this podcast, please like it, share, comment, um, send us you know, comments in our comment section. Suggest books, and go on to our main site, LibertyCrackmedia.com. And check out other podcasts. There are a lot of great ones out there.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

Oh, yeah. A lot of fun, and there's a lot of uh what are call cross-pollinating between us.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Diversity of thought.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

That's right. Diversity of thought. I love it. Well, this has been a great, uh, wonderful podcast of the Bookworm Mom. It's been a fantastic trilogy that we've been going through. Yes, and um, yeah, Cleon. I like that name. I think I'm gonna name my next dog Cleon. So uh tune in uh next week and we'll have another fantastic episode. Thank you and goodbye.