פרוטוקול פתוח #2: פיזיותרפיה, שיקום ומדעי הקור | גל פימה סדן

בין אמבטיות קרח לשיפור ביצועים לבין שקיות קפואות על פציעות ספורט – נדמה שהקור הפך לפתרון הקסם של עולם הכושר. אבל האם הפיזיותרפיה המודרנית עדיין תומכת בגישה הזו?

בפרק השני של "פרוטוקול פתוח", די כץ שחר מארחת את הפיזיותרפיסטית האורתופדית גל פימה סדן לשיחה שמפרקת את כל מה שחשבנו שאנחנו יודעים על קרח ושיקום. גל מסבירה מתי הקור הוא כלי עבודה חיוני בקליניקה, מתי הוא עלול דווקא לעכב החלמה של רקמה, ואיך משתמשים בו נכון כדי לנהל כאב כרוני ומצבים מורכבים.

בפרק הזה נבנה את הפרוטוקול הפיזיותרפי לקור:

• המעבר מ-RICE ל-PEACE & LOVE: למה הגישה הקלאסית לטיפול בפציעות השתנתה?
• קור לשיקום מול קור לביצועים: איך להחליט מה הגוף שלך צריך עכשיו?
• מערכת העצבים והכאב: איך חשיפה לקור משנה את סף הכאב שלנו?
• הפרוטוקול הישים: טמפרטורה, זמן ותזמון – איך עושים את זה נכון בשטח?

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נתראה בפרק הבא.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Shalom Gal Fima Sadan. Shalom. Toda raba raba podcast. Le protocol pato ak the lost time. Wow. Anisha tef she gali khavira mato bashli. Azpo kwa, kvar yo docha vibe tov, masho mirageshia vohem a mazinim, the shata mim gamla kvote. Iama nakon kim the beer ale mashu di banos sexy vize khamni Liza yo chef becominam comot umanian. She mush beat kerah kelek me b shigrata physiotherap therapy, therapisti, physiotherapy. Any case specifita a like shirch la. Vete ptipole becave boy boy to prelik tat me at physiotherapist movila. Mazebatim and bad kerach.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

Kodam kole physiotherapistit bethomo orthopedi, met homo orthopedia. Um ke vei shel shir, gamma ke vima chronimach, kwahochaim, wasimakuti, holiot, mama, orfyyad ki, na fanoma co ki. As they call it machine or secret.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

Brokimabim the protocol patowa. The mushlamim protocol shela. Mazebe, podcastari food, bishum tura, and bad shav la protocol. Lomika nestleme. Wakinet Lo, Lo, like shinim. Matchodashima, t sik kakak tik tatimatia, tkalasbi.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Ya fe. Ptioche m ptiote miteuna, lomat ptioche and yote chroniot, ze choliote ptiot mi moon, vize choliote, pashote ptiot overuse ka le, shela yom yom, dala kot kolmine, anibidyuk nasati lekan, shha nasati lekan bamonit si prali, sheshla delekit ba shoreshka fiyad vha autoped. Witiala e kolmine tipulim mesuyami.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Animeta la dat eh echh. Itya shafta marchalomani physiotherapisti.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Lo uhze pashute. Ra it mashu inaga, mashu sham laya raiti ba baim sha shal yuta i mi besedi mrali white shmei koevli noa, ifati, ze ze ze ze anilo te hegati lezebal begadole eganu leze, ve as in le mashal ptiate overuse kazoti.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

She's a man yeah. Kanire? Ken, man, yan.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Lokay, bale zambbat az kerah m emnich nisule kayanu lemase, the bechlale omanut mamash mamashe lo manut z derhtipul mamashamash kuduma. Mm kilulifnem measha anakwayusime tipul beko ve gamyesh bem zoimater bemkomo tuter karima la globus anashim ishmashimba praktika zoti kimatal basisom yomi mamashe suhim bambatyot msuhim be agame kirah. B akshavgam bashanima khonoti we trend kaze wellness centers vim e ki ruo imhimu kolmin advarimke leba physiotherapia nahnu bay karmi be tipul bekor e kiti pul mekomi omere mekomila ptiya, the choliote mekomi e akrineka, za khubakarasol, o besho ska fiad o pashut mekomi la evar, velokke mamash tvila beambat keras.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

Yeshgam praktika shele iskolminat kirou, as ish kirou shumekomi leva, yesh ki ruim be khadrim khadre kirou kele she mufalima le de gaz vesh e kiroube tvila, bareta naknu yote yoter brefwa naknosim kirou mekumi leva o etvila bekerah beambatiot kze zelo praktika se nicheset mamash letoh tipulle refui ma ravi adain loida tulai bati deval zadain shayahla o lame tipulla alternativi.

SPEAKER_04 6:09

Ken.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

Zeloma shu sh animishta meshit bo bayom yom bihlal batipul bet villa, mamash le me topalim aniken holiot amlit lechhelecmem. Lechelik mem the holatim Avaltipul beko kshalat smo var mekomi anaknosi mamon okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

Ani boin boyganit ma ked beze var lama defial khomita difi home alkoprina acutit ve kiloheimse ma coti oroni legambre.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Kodum call mama cutit, kodam kolanya tril bekor. Okay. Lorra canis tumeret anachunatril sh nia bekor biglal shtia cutit, yesh kolmine dwarim shekorim sviva e varas. Yeshta lihle dalekit sh ue mofia be kama symptomim. Stomat deleket niet ke ezo kham imnefihut, imzrimada mkberet vekev, ve korim shama kolmine dvarim gamberamat mamash atta stomanete mechole deleket korimleze, mamash tzito kin bonim kele, e shame zisarakazot mod gdolas viva evarze ekewapsiya, sedana nahnu dim sha nahnu pot'im evar a goof u se daleket akshav. Begedol deleket zitalik uloshli liken deleket himaf sharet la gufe letaliheri puy a val, kodem kol ikovet, shhez ktan base. The mgbil, et a tif kud. Vedavar seni iminim sheket kwar, ktatio termida izman ima mash mashpiala tifko chelanulera azomeret imesh mi shush nakatakar sol shelo, shhez ptia kuti, tkany akshaavu nakatakar sol shelo. Ve u yat sliakhli drohala regel, kedwa kika shoveneka, u la tri drohala regel shouv ma atomerek. Ken na khalutin aval ad a delekit azoti vanifi kut we kolmashori kol kahmashmauti, at kade shu i manami ze lotovli. Mmza ni kenrota lo widota.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

Aza as a core zebma de varishon, kedele widet a delekit kadele goromlo lalekit.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Lorakze, gam yeshla ako infectu anti delecti vegam yeshla effectu male sh kev bache kulanu koli kilw shalit kaberleze. Batah e umamasheshu numbneskere dimout ba by zo, ve maf shelo mamashla lechete lidochal regal veze khele kmashmauti bahlamashelo shelaneka, thohanyan.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Ate my light asi po shelaneka a imunim shelish an yosaimat'mi ha mon shanim esrim shana sviva devarze a kar kolkar kritili le khze kar sulime sheli. Biglala shnota esre shele shekilo bemete gambat seva ayusham cominese purim sviva karsulaim a devarishoncha siti a neca zela inta regal. Shom yom shlosh, gam gam ima shha ta meritly elevate, elevate, elevate. Ach shavat meritly mashush kilo a wow. Kilo aitit kal lechet, aitit kha le karel mashikana city. Ken avalas kha vashti, vishuvanim develifne strim shana, khait as lekare l' khvosh kin. Vela lechet.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

Kin. Aqshaftiri, yholio chali kha bat khalai te lomatima vale fotness yat mishkal. Matomare ken vel ve kele shalev ara mashel regel stomit aramashle regel e kenha shova ki kwaha kvida bse me oze le kolanoslim la redet, bitunkom shlim use viva kar sol shubemele mi frak shwe e unamuh, distali vetahtit kwahak wida, vit so ternifi huve ter kev, mmitsuyan sachla reme t regal legambre, avalzhle shaleveze. Zelohad mashma yershav keholgam sha she loye giui la varze shen ifga, giru shel e shu lachatz adin, the kakhlo yuterz malitoshesh. Ken.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

Ken.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

Ken. Az as azle shelatehad varishon chanhunaser hepsiota kutiot ziko, agav gamek shrotimlachirsah kanimla migrash Maer Merke de leseemeta machhatit athanilo abal abal devarishon samimlaim spray kar kar kal shim lem tak tac tac, ve kadim stomerete, canaf share ta odde khatisha revasha ni lo dat ma za karisa verde dibura khe zelega beye ptiota kutiot as Zemashani tia devarishon le mishimagia visitigam le naten, Mama sh barigaimarishonim, but a kotarishon ota ba bayam mimarishonim. Okay. Veb of lifargam adchodish. Stomet adchodish maptia andina se la trilbekiro.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Kilo a protocol hayomi, batipulba ptiya, and yatrilbekiro, adchodish.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Abalanisama e the bisiman shela, stomat bakama mimri shonim, andihadmashmaitlaim, lamitupalim, tak shivu tana su ki rugam la vota shte, ru, ki ubathalaya yatir kev, nali sha nahunigabese le lama zekore, a vardem shelosh the coat, yofimuletam shihuze.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

What le kamazman?

SPEAKER_01 12:57

As as as a mishane m n protocol me do yak shall kamazman sakhli share him kiro, but si vsr the coat, the mole kwa m speak.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Kirou over the coat, we as mam shikimim sha protocol.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Legambre. Veamza over it a khod, so mit ka anikwa an yet siachimum. Okay as khma.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

So yesuchroni e kev delekit chony teder delekit mifraki la mota ele, vanimargi shab actually shya uh berich i khama andhomlam the yeshar ki ruhane gamimish kwaarbashani madelecta.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Kia home ube m kwar sham. U kwar shamasat masha kelha.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Umodi shesh kane de shi toleut shil delek te shisara knuhe. Vimla fritotakmasimanimgum sh deleket, sh the home zigam Kev viva like al Kiev, so merit anilorota la gid besidevi, shelagof bonitenla e la sote chella ni rekamazmanzi kahlo. Anilmeret, anirota eta effectim a khiuwim shla deleket, vanirota natrel eta shlili eta effectim to the cave, azani kenya sim kiru vanir tiotak beti food kedela klim ma hero t. Kenir tseota himaneka o leket wow.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Ken.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Love balance.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

Okay. The superhesov ki anikochevich gamate mash physiotherapist in Pamambo.

SPEAKER_05 15:01

Mm.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Ulaye de boyoteranuha, if you're a debo shel kilo uh zoz.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Kodum kolm kolisha gili tek shivi andi sowel me ko. Ani kvarmis.

unknown 15:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

O korlotovli, the lobalibitov, ani anni lobato sheni dehitola kivuna zihlal, the varichan, o kor show mamash, mamash, lom, mamash kar kilo. Vedavar sheni, meal sloshaho the shimma de brim kvar, a lese kev show. Sedar as a food me the beretal kevsheni mshah termish loshaho de shim, umkar kev chroni. Kwlof po mishu kze bring kwaral kev chroni ze kaveshek warbofen a kroni o termatimlo chimum, avale avalani tetimamitupalva nahunena se.

SPEAKER_04 16:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Bazani anifneote himum ki peshut m manisancheli z anashim termit khabrimleze vido zerla mve. Kize mazrimle sham dam ki can bigal kol effect him shalhimum me mazrim damar peta shrim.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Zekat kmo lit sora ta effec la delekate mi kadash.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Lo video clockya na kumisham shimpa rakbehim mum rak behele kmafian kad shel delekat.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Avanti.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Kilun.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

Superman yan zekilo kol de varsha tomeret vet sama ni khala e la tzorega. Vesha verakala de varash.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Umye gikikal phyotherapia. Ban ani. Ani kwain.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Okay, as beetsem atroa bekor ke mamax ozer la le shipura tifko shrir o a gid o mifrak o whatev a kiro maf shella notifkood. Zbsem ma agenda sham. Velo ridita wafhatat ke vim kilo zer la tifkood. Na kon. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

A shella al man achnu e de beiras to merit. Yesh a mona mone kni sa le technika shel kirou beola motas sportba sportam mikzoi athletim ki rotiimle otimlach zirotam mer le.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

Ken. Na kon. Shamsamimetakasef shell dokita mikkar velak kor del om.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Karim ma mash by far can kilo shanis takaltia le al mikkarim bezmanakharon, zemetwaf kilu akola kolakol sport atletika, we sh odmihkarim shame de brimal dwari mikhi mm. She al mahalotronio twal nefesh, shaani me kawashela nuzman lagat beze. Mamash ki zekedaye.

SPEAKER_04 18:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Vem batiot kerah. Aval rova mikkarim, and vutaim al atletim bekolminesug sport, kolmikka ushoelatma echani a kolis tamesh beut kerah ki zemashakoreh, bišwilach zirita sportayaze yoterma er le itoshishoot, la zoro ymu tosheshu la goufelo. Are gamun yesh nezek nohan. La shir.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Lo koshulptia, shoot lobi la immoon.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Ken. Hadmashmaid. Yesh nezek mishni la rikma. Ula ye atte you dat leberel zetov mi meni ve e akaka kemoti mlagi abalmah zirota. Gamit beramat rikma sumat mamashio dim l'ramata ta'im batlome vinna ezemhkarim kilo yesh l'ramat atta ve asamanima biochimim ve gambatusha trusha subjectivi chela sportai.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

Ze maleta shela kamaim tslihule da yekze shelhaim ambatia aksifala ko betem mesha peret etatifko de shri o kmosha mat o shame ma kitaita ke evsem em ze mashem meshaper kilo ze oze oze ki az maamek karim amkram swa limitze betem em shualimidze vem nichnasim le raamat a madadeto tsaabe k subjektivi doms shipur be mirhak kfitsa klia lasal diuk. Wow!

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Sprinteam imun ekcentri an koncentri aneobi si bolet embot kimet koladvari mele ki pashut kim khayabim la datat mamak ziri tesportaim shalam yo termaye na yesh yesh mashushu ki mathad mashmay or mashuseralatma? La chalutin, kodem kolaniag sh kola matara shela mikkarimele, zelivdok ma zere laito shoot shela sportai shella athlete ve az yesh shnehalakim bede kala mikkarimele mga mbotkime bitsuim stomaret ma mashle ramata merhak shela kfitsa, veagova shela kfitsa, ve mbotkim sakanekaduregal Madadim Kharim, ve tennis ve ve Madadima Shnimim the markerin biochinim. Kwala ma sale kreatinin kinaz, okay. She ue madaj shanachnu to be pirukshl shri, soinan ve Saf shelle keev to haka handi de bell safele kev ki the olamah abal kolminem markerim biochimim. Masheroim begadol ze shemiprinat a markerim biochimim ayduyot emishanot stomaret yeskan infect antidalakti mesuyam yeshkan shipur kreatinin kinaz u Khozeer Lamadad Ativ ishelo la baseline shelo, ktzatioterma err mächerim otodo var gam im akahim tunit. Lobitzura mashmoutit, dam ksha mashwim, tzurati toshishoot, stomaret be mekkarim sheme, mechalkimlik woutzot, mrim akrea emosimezhu, behklale, oymoon o sprint fizy, ve az Mumrim, Ashav Kwuta Shragil, Aksav Kwutahim Khom, Hshav Kwutahim Coron, Latim Totovot La Sportim itosheshum Cor Kilo Latim. Okay dadawa is on chanihula gidito, kilo a markerim bi ochimim emuterto vim longet.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Biglala hype hametoraf, ze khashov mochik shinyabon de beral mabe metro embame karim. Kiya hype u metoraf.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Ken.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Okay. She tvila be maim shelben Hameshad Malot, Lemech Eserat Hameshis Redakot, Itavila nutzaotia footba markerim ve tvila shel be erek SRAT Hameshis Redakot be temperatura she swiv khameshis Rada Kot, itavito tzaio tertova. Temperatura shia swivma? Ah, Kamesri Malot. Okay, okay. Itavila nutova e meprinat athusha subjectivitai. Like, can the gam agavaim lifdok aimbate kirchyvi and the mm? Zomer, anilo yo dat sviv ezem malot bedirkla lossimet ambatit kirak, val similefameshri maloot, zeloma od namoch ani veme toha Bene Hadesh remalot, but zeloma moh.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Kilo bishvilizen a moch, bishwilis remalot anisama swe anirozare ga lavin maze tipul kor shoutov.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Tipul koroshu tov ehit anachmida bot bikal tvila be maim beseder ki zemashosimba aretz vizigam atipul kora shakhiak ve showom debota tipula comishanahnosimba physiotherapia.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Okay, kim. As as as okay, as anirotala dat anni, mama shovli ma batuach vemaya il vema e kiat atamarkni kodem tipul bekar shoutov, ve nitkati ala ala milato mazha u merbetsem.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

Tovas korum koltipul bekar shoutov, kwadum koltipul mekomi u une? Tipul mekomi e tluka te icep, o e sunfrost, otefet oto be maget, we manihala evar the kochama, moidauto, margishashek varpakotkoev, okay. Amon, tipulbet villa shame karomer o yes viv khadisra khamesra mallot and yoda chesha sim tvila be malote muhot, and yodat me, yoli Finland, okay, nloida fo, yara gil le temperature m to vlim be me, kerach vehuleve, nikhevet la gitche ba lama zesherach and standardisati and shov the protocol uh a protocol yakid or a true shasheloh. Lavinete mamashemati pole shoot. I mumisem it, mashani prototermale, sababa.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Ole moula matzlema bat y kera sim ka vekha veka, ifha okazekaris mati ve kolkach ma min beze kol khaim sh los of a wim sviva devarase, shani omeret kilo wim hof a mar a rega Boshnya Bosnia nikarta khora a wimhof a marze, the devar shani shoroveh.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

A shnia boniv doke ba tsura, anigamrozala gid, var no saf, she mata beshigrati munim, bata koshevle khlisa tm batiot el shigrati moon. Zedafka pachot na konstomatashimbatut kirach, veshuva nimeda beret khab shniya, alohlucia, msweyemit. Psedaran nimedaberet, al-atletim, shotim, la sot mbatit kerach, le chemit o shishuriit. Okay. Sedar then him deberet. Okay. Zelon yen kon la kniisita it mbatut kirch kihelek mishigra, mashia hole feelu, letafu hot, me moon me hypertropia. As as batsem matai.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Be o note ta kaut. Okay, dafka off season, khatas man litoshesh veli ba note me kadash me odme odmah show. Mamash legabit uh protocol me do yak a dainze la ve by stream shana ako shebiko the mammash sevele Bishwan is a debatium. The martilo the k shiv mash korelli be choref, the sepo me te banglose botel khab. It's bot a choref shelly that it's a machorovka neve Koran Koream it's bought a chore it's a machore. Cole choref, shekar be metless galgalot ve em votli, ve corangamyod the lotteruts, the be metamiti, viznhmad, shirak we holistoff kelim kira ma shele and kfafot, we ma'amashu ba bar regular yemanit, she called yemin with the stare glime, aval be my god. As a can canachon lasim gorbain. Zoze? Mr. Ber shurbain za devarto. Lotri kolashanala, lehadak kaffe, mr. Aval. Konte la podcast. Bidluk. Ani uh lama yon merited calls eh? Kun call Mr. Ber shit be medi barty me khavirato vash raumatologi thira dhamrali, tobiashta k sokill re no akol kilo vazanek.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Aval imi mra.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

Azot. Ania martila tek shivi, ani lola kit la v kenet me, tatriliat. Legamra. Aval, aval shaval ani kolas kolashi tofe za obetem kede la gide ani isha, israelit gum. Oh, khveram shotafla no marli loze tapelah ba kolze azor lahve. Ni khnasi n mhkarim, bez man noze man, atkam better up to date. Weenoti vikamovan shalafti zekol sihaito, mumlat linashim. Than ismachmark al dateatehim bihan nich nasla mekkarimalze, aval ken ken zemashu sha la.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Super vekim or sote aval a sa madalo lomga ved Asteria zani anirotala gid kodem kol shola mekkarim sha ni debatel embat letim e the gamhatabiko. Az m zmitofetomerete ki zegamehata biko a la mekkarimele Zhned varim shon nim legame tipul be sporta eat, ve tipulbe sporta e z lota deva. Thiri yesholam shalem shel reformik dareit anye loika neselav ki ze perikakher, la halutin. Avale yeshonut miswemit lifamim can lifamim terve lifamim pachot andihevet la gichek shani mhipasti mekkarim shenasime la frid, nasote le shelambatiot kera kal nashim, leumat gvarim andavarkaz.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

Okay, o lefahote ani loma tati. Kilo, yesh mihkarim sholai, mihasim rak lenashim, wez rak le gvarim a balan, lokayemet.

SPEAKER_01 35:23

Nahon vik grega. Nahon, azle machal yesh mihkarim shemedabrim alce ale effect lambatut kerah, he la khar sartana shah, itzel na shim. O bekeve mi frak jareh, itzel na shim, o berat mraumatoidratritis, delekete prakim, shhi bihlal bi karma khalash el na shim, o askashali la gidlachalze, tumetani anni loy cholab mamash bitsuwa kilo ani loy chholab bal balev sheli la gidlah shonut. Ani loi that lagidlah khze. Okay. Aval ani cholala la gidlach sh yeshabet chumim barefoa shem pashut lo nikkarim na shim. Az azeot ya holiot.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Eh me odmodyh shhevlia gav, ki ani kolayom mitasekat be la vinat mkareim, be bez mana chon ma yot seh shav ma ma machonek shav gum to fot, gaminon shel t. Sh the pashut mchh.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

But two azam batut kera kloze the trum shha mikkarbo martilahbe maumitra kez, yesh khalek modgedol batletim e a kalakim termine nim sholo da te olamota keva chroni ve nefeshra deberalemkhat vene. Lom lomomitra kzimani be metati mashu tov mihkan badita mekan, betakale mehkarim to vim, bekitwe ete mechhubadim ve shoovze o laitakhliikanesla, o lamare fwa mig dareit vilt mum.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

Anni ani kanesla. Ani shatef kiet marshali, sh itmal zaya dude chilach. Atem kanireloshevetem rakshuk mazinim a valgal v rightate. We ani be metal ve mitarefit bikarov, we martin. Khako at sofa podcast. Pasho thako at sofa podcast we sala gidar shav, velamakolze ki la podcast, akrei, anda na volze. Anakunikaneslaze, vena vin ma.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

Superman, supermanion. Ani an anegid shiken ma shek shatut kirak venashim, ki ze mahalat nashim, zekata le endometriosis. Ken avaval avale shov game ze lo anagilahma. Pashout ze akav sholya kotanu la nusa shenishel anu shella tipulle bekev. Ztipul bekev. Bekev. Tipul ashpa shel ambatut kerah altipul bekev. Okay. Vebetem ksha tomerat endometriosis asim shabutkim bederklal stomerat masha nachnuchkarim lirotme. Ma bal masha naknuim, the shama de tutza z cave. She the besedami pinati. Kemze goamaklargi shhetov zemeule. Mach patlichlal. Stomerat anakhnu dibano la markarima biochimi maele gamba mikkarim mumanim ve mushkaim vechor divima pinzeta la madadez azraim the shino y katan sababa ital atleti. Vagav u muugdarba s agdara shel kev y agdara shell trusha shell mm beot kama shoote aha kanilotrobal bema masha ta trusha subjectivit de matrilka. Ken ki kev u subjectivi. Az shama ish kt mehkarin ki endometriosis rehem rehem rakl nashim val.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Manyan agava Satana shaadve endometriosis zegam me khlusa shim odnisha la khokreim. Kevanche hemtsaim ar babeb de kot vem gam kulkach rotsot chwa shem chotmot alaishu. As as ve as anachnuloro imbeme mkareim go fim alousia e klalit. A betak lokale shema shvim, stom. Babi mhadloba mbatiot kerach. Anisma mek tat la la nefesh.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Look, animargisha anhnuboffen tivigol shot la kevachoni. Yeah, ki yeshe dafka mashaim bambatiot kerach veroimi fe she yeshpa khiwit al kev chroni. Kev choni kmosha mano, the kev sh we holioter mishlo shahodashim, we holiot kev sheled shri, okay, mother kev sheled shir, the kwevlia gavaton, kwevli kovin kevim shama ko shelem umashele dumashir, vizigameholiot kev chroni khmole mashal, masha dibartalav, the kev sh u kanir anilo that myesh la kaval o imkenaz u the nishmak mobolamota uharumati delakti del shel delakot chroniot. Okay, visham, anahu gam nich nasim le fibromyalgia le delekit prakim em delekit shigronichele shela mudashidran, kilo dispondilitis mulaya filu tare shet mzeoterma la moto neurologi aval avale bagadol masha nahnu roim, the shima metupal, umit khaber lako matlihhimle khaberoto lako, az yeshaam effect to effect hhiu vi al kiv. Masha nahnu waimbehkare ma masa, zeshekodem kol, a koch, kumashama codemuk we physiologi m shekorimla nuba mifashim ko, feme cave. A ko, zeh. Okay, ze rishon, okay gam shha ni kna simlam butam comi zhenesha meshlanukoltanim koltanimele kimlik wut, yes koltane home, ve koltane magga, ve koltane lachats, ve koltane kor ve k ev, ve emachim lo dialamwah al al feedback, ma periferia. Okay, as ima nier shabel khatz khazak khazak, ala etzbashali, az youfelu koltane a lahat nkhanortaptoim. Ve em yadkenuita mwah, ve gidu, mishu waqshav mafiel lahats ba etzbashelgal. Ve imu yelakat shegover vigo ver, yuf elukoltane kev. Vemegidu ze koev, stomaritesh kan ezhu lahat goverve gover, ve ukoev. Ve moach u itan feedback mesuyam to Mashukazeb seda. Azadabari shon shekesh the koltanim kshebathala, uloma fil et koltanim shela ko. Uya fil defka koltane kev. Okay? Bebigazeli famim, ksha nahumachni mshahmatilim bekor machnisim tad le kor machtikim kera kostan frost. Na khuloma gishim kor li fashim kev ki mamash kev bigazani yomerat lemtupalim shelita vrotash time shalosh de kota rishonot se moima kev, f az you fellow kortanea ko. Vadatem targishi terushat kor, pa hot kev. Mm z gamfelo itemperatura, regam al khesh Nachon. As Adavarishon, Amangano Rishon Zze. Okayze Mumash Koltanimelema viri meta meida ve e yesh re dimutkazotinambnes shele zor, vize kvarozer be bekev an aknudim sh korum al khesh kev veze. Adawara sheni shoro sela num goof ze shhe uu upoel mamash barama mohit stoma chaval abalom da beret palki ro mekumyanim deberet pol ki rue goofiki rutvila ou me shafelet hipotalamus xhe uwe betem misparga inimba moah sha tafkichelem zelishmwa li zunchel a goof ve visu la home baguf Aipotalamus uwe betem beteshi dirh misuyemet gorimlafrash el hormonim bagof, hormonim shel noradrenalin, ve uuh wahraya la maricheta autonomit ve ubetem ozerla la zeneta goof mehadaash gamberama agufani ta periferit koroved gamberamat a moah shumatrele shafel. La kor yesh effect no saf shekuri mla effect ta oromezis. Shamatal zeta. Effect ormezis u omer sha beetem a netinat giru goofless stress mesuyam kede sha goof yaf ilet mangeno nea gana, kvarba goof, weh zero tole izun, asbetem kolma shha mahnisita goofless stress. Sport o se effecto ormezis. Okay, nahon a kmahnisim e ta goofle stress. Lodha midnaim ula lifim kueva filu a shima, lev na na na na na, li dieta, le machal, lifima kmahisimita goof le siroge, mashal, okay. Aza rumezi so effect kore bekol min expecti. Vu koregam biko, okay? Azha kor machnisi a goofle shoo stress, mevukar, khashoo shizi mvukar, kha goof, o maf ealetman geno nia gana shelo, ve niya ani rota lagid tovyoter. Aval zebama s be mi mera matata ta mm kilo vag vagariin, vha mitochondria v kilo, as ze od effect yeshe lako andaklukta dibano la effect antidalakti, kaze la kim tonit. Ve besofosha lavar masha ni rotsagam lagid shmerkarim modia fim sheme de brimal ze shemodidim etot smata kev ve eta saf mimeno matrila kev lifnei va krei ki ru dafka elem karim modia fim. Okay. Vem masha ro im the shem sholo ti pul be e tvvila o tvilak me keraho specifita mekarimele di bol tvila. As viluchilo le kev e ta gwa ter. Evanti. A raf.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Ken shele kim.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

Stomerit yesh giruis, stamboy na gir bedeh albut ki.

SPEAKER_00 48:42

Kev. Biduk. Anim vina.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

Biduk. Vze zenadir, stomeret chhaumedabrima, nashim shia so limi kev khoni. Vebigel zanikhosha the kilumitye shaval nashim a valzew par excellence. Kenashim so vlotermi machalot khony ya. Mm-hmm. Stomaret kahaze, can? Vim Vikolasman koeblen, ve koeblem termashim, stomaret classy kem khwoni bo. Atipul biko, uyahola zorlain, she have la in pachot, ve mi havla in pachot, manak mekabin yoter, tifkood.

SPEAKER_00 49:23

Na kon vegam echuthaim. Khadmashmain. Tifkood gamo zerlach lama, ve vegama echuthaim zhamanak n chutrin.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Vekom v thechalman yan shat kilu pogatah shav bullba pony, kshatom tchuthaim, kimash eroim, the meat shipur be madadim sh be shipurbe sira lobe madadim e bemaspport al ramata ye foot. Lorak hen, henve, ken avalhote foot. And foot kit so neat a foot fibro myal.

SPEAKER_00 50:06

The mashwach, the loye foot shonat mole. The mashwachel.

SPEAKER_01 50:16

Ken the khosertif cod azeme de broat al shenayoter tova, and pachot kamota balaila, ve emme pachod eefim ve emo termit of kedim, vim yo termit of kedim, azimikolim la lechat yoter. Vikemolchimyo terzeo zer kanach nudim shad advarim ayehidim shrim be machalotkaele the pilot gufanit metuna. Avalimko ev kolazban emloit so me abit as the yazolaim bepilot gufanit metuna, vize male kenoniman e khdash lem she is a lam the lavormi dianim vaterit le baly balilito mahababoke.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

Im the I Fecalam Batia Karachla Benadama specifia? Hide Le Gambre. Le to that lize Iuthem shit foot foina shilo aniloma richash and it's bolbecor. Avalanomerit kilo bidukmashato merit in subjectivitum merit zeha de valcho zerlach lechilz le gambre. Boro, the gamyeshma khalot kmo fibrumga, shalachnu lol legamwivinim. Arefualo legam vina meritze kilo lo lo avalim aliha zere. Ken Vatlomat lihala giaal aliha kirah kavyota kle sham.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

Ken zemadim, zemadim mashaftiri, khashogla gid shekola mehkarimale shem de brimalze, emlomedbrimalambatit kirah ke standalone. Stomerete zelo ma she zelodabare kidi, emkulamishal vimshamtiputul fati, tarihle letapelsham gamme si bti o beze shotipul nafi ki zemahalotka el shya hotle kama o la mot lemachan yomeret ze she dafka k sh lo dat shivi mahouzosh moni mahusma amikkarim medrimalito sheshu shirba atletim veato tzotem kilo dafka amikkarim sheme brim alolamota kevhhoni ve venefesh vize emdafka marim to tzauti madim.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

Can Sham kilo zeme kakhev.

SPEAKER_01 52:58

Zetov, chmei, kilo shov, loletamid velolekulam, andi kosheve chzze mashithla kakata gavma perekase. She zelotamid vize kulam.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

Ve be muvanholistive integrativi, lost and alone.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

Ligamre can ve holiotre levante la halutin.

SPEAKER_00 53:21

La la dacha clearze kayamgam.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

Ligamre. Velenasoto Vigamle sotte liste kela la malot, bet sura e k tethash danisti. Pse da, azimulhim le mishu, vamishwaze, amadriche loida. Okay, la gach mamash khosho.

SPEAKER_00 53:45

Mamash khasho. Bematav Bari, shloshim ve sheshwa keti berg malot, lasimit a goof Bhamas the kitson. Anio evet a deberitah, then you have it.

SPEAKER_01 54:08

Ve Todashe veteta tovanot a miksoyot ve ha khashuvot vegam a de ochilach lorakatovanotirzilos sifien anniotala gid she anachnu ba bashnataim vahetsiya chonot nimtaim be matzav aka klali bamdina ve shumashpia alenu mamash ve yeshamone anashim she me mamashek war movefhanim be kolmine bedikaon bebe karada vebe PTSD ve vehule ve zetipul shougamiholiot tovavuam. Azanahuloni k nasnu e ayom, ale dabera arbeala nefesh, avalani rota giche yeshmehkarim she marim tote to votwihu viot bash pa', uhale dicon a filu anaknuim shabbatit kirak yeshoter serotonin musgorim la freshash yoter no adrenalin vis serotonin, sha to fot negon themashem so. Adrenalin viserotonin. Yesha bedwim shrimlecon, vele charada, umbatit ki, the holaliot uh the holyot gummy shopiton and the shoe man. You know, Pashute Pashuta optia.

SPEAKER_00 56:06

Any shelf be galit, but man she ema physiotherapist e game not cavry as mok me odd we can coeff me odd as karim ve me to cover actual physiotherapist. Anilamati or beh.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Why sim kabasha zeloya tumidaye khofer vihnouni.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

Ah, mustamite? Yesh ka zavar, you tamay khofer vihnouni. Love besti freno, lobu anakun ba keta shel khofer vihnouni. Baketash lano. Aty lat mzelana must speak hofer vekhnouni. Anachun tko li khadetaan. Todabagal. Todababen animave chnechem, benam mefika madim. Vanahun ishtamena, ech tekshibi and lodatimak kokaka bez mali to shesh ki, akasha tat yoledet na knut kovoti podcast kilo. Yala todada. Todarabala mefik, ben consolos, zanim mazinim shelan la perek protocol patoach. Belam shikik elamida, gam ever podcast. B protocol patouach or body holik tea. Shamanim yom yomim, mekkarim, bekalim prakti.