פרוטוקול פתוח #7: לשבור את לופ הדיאטות: סיפור ההצלחה של אסף | ד"ר עילם ואסף

כמה פעמים ניסיתם לרדת במשקל, עשיתם הכל לפי הספר, וזה פשוט לא עבד? או גרוע מכך – עבד לכמה חודשים ואז הכל חזר עם ריבית? רוב האנשים תקועים בלופ נצחי של דיאטות, תסכול והאשמה עצמית, כי המערכת הרפואית והתרבותית ממשיכה למכור להם את הקלישאה המיושנת של 'פחות קלוריות, יותר ספורט'.

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Dimaslome. Mm-hmm.

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Shishim. Shishin kilo.

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Shishin kilo.

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Beshana.

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Bashanahona.

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So Zavad, Zavad, Safu Ben Adam Shou, okay.

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You've been there before. Okay.

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Guy Yatar Hadasha.

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Two team.

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Aval Malik.

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Anima Horecha.

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And anima mention a girlhameshut and gamamami. Matara, a gamhelecmata. Zafaketele mishak. A faketele mashushu kilomanian mashushumadger gamuti. La lotana mishka villi roteri daviton rotetashino in Villa Vinci Fame Mutrimberidac a Goof as then is biruli. Canipabidi shten it saw was tomorrow one it's our than holy shovera zen tam. Nahon. Husbarisham. Shesh Matsav sh a gufkulor, Yeshmukumoton rukaz mechan. Shab Shams the Lostam of Ciclarep shovek. Vaz in a Tamakishal but a ken I do a goofnit at seva her than a time. Bagish is girl after Bagish was barlika, the matu and kill Zangasha, Timina? Legietashelo dieta, she no dieta Ungesha Li Lasaf. Nachon. Lolach, velolo, velolof specific ma anitzarich ungashli. Ani satishini. Because a shishin kilo bagav launchila and kamachodoshim achre kivol, and betali caval, and you came to shishil, shaving or chinaim, shnekilobiim, sloshakilobs voim, bashukazi, schlosash voat. Ani volobedita. Ali mu led it streamish.

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Because anyha, expensive, um, shwil, whereas Baragash and Ahn, Mashu Khazarati, as we're linear alba magim.

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Mm-hmm.

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So verbad.

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As Vaniomareth Ma atalo medma ke Stadi shall asaf.

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Okay, as an egilachka. Kedishtuhala Tetlotamaan ne, shoobe metsehoto bof and she. Okay? Zelo lota mid the mitna kezlat varima physim vabrutiim. Lefamimze amont micha shil mental, amon e lol lehet neged, amon lethizukim hiuvim vize lyotze agdaabedem shel yotmetapel. Yotmetapel toftahavla vin mefabenadam, shelha me to palchha mefu magia.

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Mm-hm.

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Vrakaza ta mechapesehla telotapita on. O mechapesehla azolo. Imta otidame fulagia u magia tata tabedot. Tabedo to baderech loyoshitovpula, loyeta tashtita tipulitazo, che zefzulachad be badehazot beyachad. Mm-hmmika.

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Ken. Okay, madim. She la lesium la saf ni lecha khora le matai shabbenasanvehad. Okay. Lo la sana shabba kabido. Anachnu anilaka gidla mazinim, sh loimutanu ba youtube, sh anachnu kta core t simple. Okay, shatef sh po karita.

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Okay.

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