פרוטוקול פתוח #8: הורות מיוחדת, אוטיזם ויציאה ממשברים | אפרת צרי

איך מנהלים חיים כשהמציאות טורפת את כל הקלפים, ואיך הופכים את נקודת השבר הקיצונית ביותר למנוף של צמיחה, חוסן ועשייה? בעולם שבו הורות מיוחדת או אבחנה של ילד על הרצף האוטיסטי נתפסות לעיתים קרובות דרך פריזמה של קושי ורחמים, הגיע הזמן לדבר על הכלים הפרקטיים, המדע והמיינדסט שנדרשים כדי לייצר הורות מותאמת ומנצחת.

השבוע ב'פרוטוקול פתוח', אני מארחת את אפרת צרי – אמא יחידנית לתאומות בנות 14 על הרצף האוטיסטי. אפרת, ששימשה בעברה בתפקידי ניהול בכיר בתחומי השיווק בבנקים, מוסדות פיננסיים, חברות אנרגיה והייטק, לקחה את כישורי הניהול והאנליזה שלה אל תוך חקר האוטיזם. כיום היא משמשת כמנחת הורים למשפחות מיוחדות, מרצה, ומחברת הספר 'שברים עדינים' העוסק ביציאה מחוזקת ממצבי משבר.

בשיחה חדה, מרגשת ומלאת תובנות מעשיות, אנחנו מפרקות את עולם ההורות המיוחדת:

מניהול בכיר לחקר האוטיזם: איך הכלים מעולם השיווק וההייטק עזרו לאפרת לפצח את אתגרי היום-יום, ולמה ההורות הזו דורשת מאיתנו להפוך למנכ"ליות של החיים שלנו.

הורות מותאמת על הרצף: מהם הכלים הקריטיים שמשפחות מיוחדות חייבות לאמץ כדי לייצר סביבה תומכת, מקדמת ומאוזנת מבחינה רגשית ופיזית.

פרוטוקול יציאה ממשבר: מתוך הספר 'שברים עדינים' – איך המערכת הביופסיכוסוציאלית שלנו מגיבה לטלטלות, ומהם השלבים המעשיים כדי לאסוף את השברים ולצאת מהם חזקים וחיוניים יותר.

התמודדות עם השחיקה היומיומית: ניהול הסטרס, רגשות האשם ושימור ה-Wellbeing של ההורה בתוך המרתון התובעני של גידול ילדים עם צרכים מיוחדים.

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פתיחה והיכרות עם האורחת

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Bruhima bay mle protocol patua, ayom yesh li orachat wow the shem frat sorry. She be et se mimigiabihama lamoto shivok veyait dmuyot ha boltot beoterbe o lama shivok Adlifne ke khameshru shana? Afilo phot afilo phhotlifne shaloshanim. Adlifne shaloshanim nachod. Lamrot sha elveyerden bnot arbaisre. Nachod. Regan itzharega la akel ki zaomersha jingalt legamre.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Ani me de bertitah adlif ne shaloshanim ni alti shivukisanakashivuk bhivrot aitek, shhez khivrot sh of dog.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

She za adlif nashelo shan is a kilo built in it passethly? Cat.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

The adlif nashalo shanim.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Okay, atem teheftavino lama my mind is being blown, karrega. Binosaf la reka me odma odmar shim, shela shivok, at emichidanit, baartly ot emihidanit ve e vet teomot lolamchod. Vet negadeto ta mamash at beat smih nachod levad. Veh sh twist valila.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Yesh twist valila, sh uigia dekarovla dekarovla leida stomeret zelo, zelo shia yaize it kufate nachat kazot vas pitom gia twist de lawigia mamas samukhla laida.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Mitohavana, sh yeshpoit modidut imorut akherit orut le yeledim tsahimi uhadim. Shtamne kutat.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

Maz samukhla laida.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Aymet anichhoshevet shha filush wu'aim liftnea leida, ba khatabdi kot, khadarofime rim gabava marlit ishmei ani koshev shhe kholiothesot bebdikoat ki yesh ubar aleph, ve yesh ubar bet, shekadula ymb shemot, ubarbet zubar, zotia hell yamim, de daberale, yesalabarimba, shel batzada garoua chez Pigour sichle, ou batzada naim shel ze lotu kali mathematika.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

Brokima baim le protocole. Podcast albriu, karla k hem, diet, velo trendy munim chole, theim, protocol patoach, a hat chuta, cykl belotan. So, anda, no ad shav the protocol.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

As an mathematical as an auto sham, but

מהייטק ושיווק לאימהות יחידנית

SPEAKER_00 3:12

puzzle and puzzle, wow.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

Okay, uh, we be jingul, she madim with the girmoli, largisha the hoof and it's a podcast, the khatzi partly sparchal beta ut a hotline shel isra le orim le la dimalaretse fautisti. Nah. Beta utwit kosher alike.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Beta utou karmatica lobarur adayom echara.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

We wit kusher, ve ater gasht, s'helecmash li hochilach, bele de berito, nahud. Vezania marty, anithata kshaba podcast. Okay. As boy boy na na na vinata sipoye yoter la omek.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Azanikta soper, e kmocha mart behle ze tril mize rzitilyot e ima, ve bader cheli ikhlateti bi comp chot al yhidanit miprirah, a masasheli la rut aya mukav, uloya pashud, zek kolpam lifdokat kama ni rota vechen kse sof soft nichnasti le rayon veze salah, miprinati boto rega, shumda varlo echolaya lištabesh. Klum yoter lo mishtabesh. Lihora, yagid mishua al masa marnu kodev, sze ze shuwaim lifnea leida sekwa mishhuwa rim gabava ma rega, y choli yo cheshlanu po ruut taheret le yeledim tsahime ykadim. Ani zuhat guva shali boto rega, ani boto rega marti velomi tohha krasha elamitohemunasha kolya besedr, amarti. Okay, azi loteda matematika, kolbesedem meb shahima la besia kwach. Ani khoshevich kolash na taima re shono chela uruut, ib kola itgarib shayusham mileida shelpagot, dereh pagiya, derech pchinashela ihurait patruti shelia hen, ani khoshevich kolash na taima mw kavota ele, lerega, lerega, loif sakti lamin, sha koli ebesed, velamrot kola ta' khaziota s khorot, bayota kaziot s khrot leh ashtna ta'ima ele, shafilula gicha ada yom yesh kolm mina ta' khaziyot, ulayze mashu shumeya kedotivo noteli ta' kohot val anima gisha niroa bbacheli, kodeb koleta potencijal, vea khak e ta' koshi, beoda maarech etwa nashima krib shot fimo ta'wa yme ta' koshi lif na potenzial. Vea akzakazo chela potencijal ima she dqfawtakam kadima inimceta yombe makom harbe harbe yotov mata khaziot la mocha makomot mukav.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Matai kibaltita'vqhana Rishmit.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

Afchanașela imikurit pathuti raftrumi shem no raga dol, zacem, zaya ba talah, zaya kharesh lo shachodashem shiganu le makav pakim ammo zotti elda, xhafanashela ikuvit patruti raftrumi. Zesem me od me'od meyem, ze shem sha talloyo de alasimeta etzba alma, vemishama ithil masa xelbdikot bilti nigmarot, x'leavin mefonovim akxejim. Ksaf zelorak neurologim, zegam kolminei marachot meta boliot, veli fdokimenxam tismonet, veli fdok, kol kakar bere kivim, mikevanchamareka genetis el av loyjadwa, azla leħet veliv dok bekol kakar bekivunim, x'e kolda varkaze, ze masabifnet smo, xha t lokakte ta' scenario a gorwa beoteer, waat khozeret hora la emunazo, ċato meret kol besedr, al dazo taftiat kulam, waat machzikaitze kolazman veza awruti gam levad, eh teħfne daberal miya tafut isham awale awruti levad, mistofajdwa rah la totem xjeli, anni zuherech gamayez shu shelav, xani bahharti le mannen etabdikot, kizayya masab bilti pos sekxana kmevelim be bate kholim. B'gilej m'autziri, bgile mozziri mxha oda kot, shanni ej ma shelah, vana kukolazman's vibdikot, webdikot kedila dat, ma yeshla. Besofoshil

הטוויסט לפני הלידה והחרדה

SPEAKER_00 7:55

davar, anachnu bikar shalal nudware, vebez shu sela, panitila neurologi twa marty boy, zagemdeba ru xi yala rezef, waze mali na kon. Bezagila martze. Anu ħshu chamati la zbegil khameshesh, aze mrali? Okay. Ya mrali, naħon. Ava kokakha bebdi kotodesh anulas so chizzahiphod da khufla nu kariga, kia anahnu, kanahu alze vib kabelet kolak michot veze titriz. Bebemedhiti ba'amla tzata, a xi kwa loja kħholtioter ki axonut khevratit, axonut batik shhora chela, imas viva, be nay aita kharigay yoter mikol koshi fizia kher xi ayala, be xiama e klatitila lechet li ifun x'liahela la spektrum vi ja kenu fena ħad ma smait a la spektrum autisti, be tifkud benonina muh. Atifkuda kognitivi me odgavo. Me odma odgavowa kuts mize matematika ba kut, za distalkulia, sh' lo shajh lautese. Batifk kuda yom yomi shela dvarima pshutiim shelachla argenta yom, shalechle la argenta goof bitnuot, kola dwvarima elezba benoni namoh, kolela vana situatha khivratit. Mi prinata koladamshi pak shabba rechho vrchav, u kha verxela. Ima zmi nautama baita, okay, viga mi khulala lehtalem. Zabarama zochhosra wa nashela situatia.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

Baz atel zeta focus begil shekvar jecholaya lifgua ba o lifgoa bachli ot, beetsem itmashikorek yholea chilo e vina. Aval ani chlara k leta air ezergish lachha mart okay, aketa hevati, zekilo, anithashniaritra kezbeze.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Anirotasaperehzayaki zebsem biglashem tio mot mhsolo to bezefer, ve amla tzash elatftiela itabegan shel khiduhmiu khad, avalam latza gurfela tevet, benan xia mikto pratiem ve benan xha miktoa sh livrutanu bit patruta yelad, ve bagan, aitah la tahad mashmait, laħtista mizgeret regilaim sayat, at kedekah ze uta potentiala kognitivivi. Okay. Okay, ba safasha devarima yubo to bezefher, ava la vuriya el, ama reħet, akita, arbaim yeladim, mora, mazarihla asot bazmanaze, ayak moiza khol xha ħokze xilo tsihlita taf ked betuhko. Ve' aż, gama murim xela, xha namba imahinu kameju ħata, bezefr khadax, kula mayu morim tri, ba'etem nelzukażwa li kola khota kedelita vehla ta' mazzovim. Wow! Va sitwacja ażot, xi el dabe kita' alef, nimda wert karegal jarden. Sliqa kol azman le agija, ve leagena li jaħel, ve la zbirota. Yamdamul kitax le ma jaħel ve e jarden slijha ve izbira, ma yeshle jaħel, bdiga xi kulam kolasman xalua vel ma yexhla, ma eeshla, lama jkaha, lama jxjona, lama jaħere. Va ażod l'ojtalan nuta kotere la spektrum, aż gamabru azrega yo testit, ba salaze, l'ajtalan nsungušban kasy yo tistit, aza taloja kola git ken, mica chenjait na gutme odit na aguċela rezef, ve laħen ayapoze dissonans kaze xha gam anahnu la zbiret jaħela sviva, zaatalih mukav afuri ke im, ve me od mukavli jarden ki a kota, beze jispia dramatit al-kulanu. Velachen aniomere chia noseshila afhana, vezegav khelek ma'arza xeli, xha niomeret yesha na shim shek sheme kabliemeta afhana, o lamam kores ki exputa ibuče la fantazja, ve shela razon, le damianala, eta yele cheli, l'omedba universita, meki mishpaha, khaita khaimam melehim, levela grid rega, rega, rega, rega. Mamizew yemesugal lasot bofena tzmahi, ma ma shma'uchela dwareze, veze eshputa'alih, shel evel ala fantazja le khaluti, l'huma azot, yesga metrega afhana, x'ye poterle kha kolkachar be beayot be ze s'yehla jele chha en shem, wa thosmat sehla zbiroto, wa tama gisha ta' a mikrophon shelola o lam, a ta mzbirita shunucheloze, ava elcha shemavarze. Wha ni so khelchik shani kibalti tafhana shelala la spektrum, zemprinatia ta' misiba. Mesiba le hol dabar sof sof yeshle zeshem vanihulala gid my yeshla. Zamin ad.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Sipo shel yardin sh omedit mulakita aleph. Anim vinaaki abacheli hayome sanya met kita alef ve meprinati obariti kanire lotaskimiti a valikatantonitoresh

האבחון הרשמי ומסע הבדיקות

SPEAKER_03 13:17

vana vehimla ve mashu loigunni let support meelda kazot ktana anditohaimi bemet ika ezabenadam, ikahadayom odmanien kiesh po dualiut, kimitza dihad, ivanikhoshevet yardani yel dame tko eset.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Beseda, vanih koshevcha kashila la olam mukaza mon ba mashabim shit yyehe. Ki mala sotibala ulam kvarim khoser shel mashabim ki anaba, yeshrak ima, ve pitoma ima zotga masuka mons viva khota, az yeshpu mitza dehadli kihatak rayut ve ve ve ve yoterat smaut baytargenu chela, memitacheni yeshpu kaas, kas kolazman al ze shel eknit fakti, mme mkelek lafim betrilatah. Ani khoshevet chebeze shu e makom afikat anilobikastimirden of pamla zbiretya hell. Ani khoshevet xi koestalea babajt. Masht nikra koestalea balev koestalea babajt. Avak she zeme giah, lemim shaki maulama kitzon e shagirami spara khachal, i megennale, vita zbirota, viti la khem lemana, viosaj zenobish vilatzma, yosajza bihel ki ima margisha she shaolam lotta midhogen avuriel ve elatakiliblit modedita, as yosa bimkuma, vanirwaize ad ayom kehoshe kalega inaramid bageret vkoulano e shano mit bagriba bite asakhodeme mazomer uvechholzot, imanil lon nim tset vex na situati a filumul khavirimba telephon, shelyeh, yardenya rishona, shhetzema khedr shela, shikoto khedratum, vetilachhem avuri, vezega mashia stasha kita alef, tio mere, shimashegaramla la sotte zebami mena, ve msa pere, sheba kataf sakot, ep tsahkualihel, vi niksha, vei Amralem shef sikkulit shoqi zutohota, ve Lotzukhkim al dwarimkele, ve azakakh Yamrashi Rutzala Zbirmazit Trahime Yu Khadim, ki rotaze Yeladima Khirim Ya vinu, Sheyash Benenu anashim, shek tzatyotarkashelaim, ve tzat mitnagi macheret, vzelosi balit trokalem.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

Zoyarden si basanibo. Ani ya hell, andi koshewe chegamiash mashu ba hell, shu mod lovable.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

The tomeret mishit so heka yoma liha hell kshaana knu behevrao beze, zailadima ktanim sha dine, od ella em inerenti ta' khele kazeh levaset etat guvao tomatit, okay, awalieladimba gil shelabanocheli emlotsuh kimali ali mi khlim li rata, mikulim la gidma, awal emlotsuh kimalea, inib tatlama sabet sofim be mizgerechel tzamej chz tzhahime yu khadim, yal tala shir ze khada, vrimab ma'am memim, yal tala shir etashir Michel be the erf siyum shelaem, wow, ve yal talevad ki kol tzamid abduch il tzamid losharim, veloze, zi al talevad, ve mehlitu, bi kol shavota gil, gavka elesha yuita bkita' alef bo tobeta sefer, aluva mbduma chorea, ve shahu yachadita ked la tetlaq gav ki ilvada la bama, ve k shemigul mishelem tzakula jahel, za toba yasba mašhu me od lovable sheh. Ajwece yel la dimba gil s'illa, ve me everleze ken mehhilim ve ken yodimla tetleze tabakom. Efoze pogeshotanu s'elo mehilim, o not ne sherut, x'elom i rimim rega t'rošhlista kelmiya adam sh medmoulam ve az omrimla lo almashu vin ikneset laatraf m'otkashela khileta eta zama zen kh. Beoto rega, beoto rega sh uu lo e vin rega mabbi kashti ve mia benadam sh medleado, ibo tashniata gidlo, miya tabihlal, metum tamehad, mata ose, misamutrapo, an ilosoferitotra ve kola de mass.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

Merit bidu ket mashakulano khoshvim. Ken, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Yo merit bidukit kolmasulano khoshvim, le losjum meh mesanenim, ve ba sniya she msayti ommerit sliha loit kavanti. Zotomerit she Agavanira e tiet zebeleve. Ken. It'slicha. Na khod. Ali khoshyevich aldazot, omerit slicha, yo tramikol mi la kherit. Zebashuut ki loop shhezga mi tzadihad goreble kalikwech ba lev kolazvan, a avanazot shognitja s'ila i mevina sh mashu lobesede, ba it na gutilo e khulale yasemede. Aza bhnoakash, zenuakash el kjyoti ta' disonanza zevani khosheveci ii khuvayze me'od me'ot kazak. Velakena sliha zot asliha, bide pawani yomeritla ezereheshla sliha mine meret kolka chorbe pamim. Sabat adigamena sala fhitet tasliha gambišvila, aval gamli famim aslihhay na shuma sma'ut. Vani vanimedabati tala erh sheba slijha, ve ani khoshevech gamma ni kho tetli famim, l'hshov, x'eshla s tlitabem komot om nawze koreli pachotmila khirim, ava gamani chotetli famim, laksov xeshla tlitabam kumotele, vemitacheni, imani lahzik, ta makomaze sha ni mela medit o ta vena khavehek, azlati yeshemit kedmut, azanib azanibetohze.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

Vetwait kadmut. Kholasman. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Kolasman, kolasman aniwait kadmut. Vanitoa, khashuwli lagedze. Zenishmakilu akolepi epi vaniodati ta dereh veze anitoa arbeba dereh kmu orim kirim, bze besed. Zemasho seta uruchilanu kolka zakavito waze sha nahu to'im veme ta kn. Sha khumezaim tataoyochilanu, wa kumeta knimotang. Mho shiv

כיתה א׳ בין פנטזיה למציאות

SPEAKER_00 20:10

sha yeshze madri kato riim o kol ima kerecheltoa and the warkazan heyakazot vani mudatla taoyochili, vani kopa mumerit lets me, se besed rani ta'iti, the sort ima tato vachaken.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

As eight suman losa eight dmut beolama shivok, shanim algabeshanim, bata sact in kolmine revadem shla de vareze gidalt e chabanaut ma lifnasha loshanim.

unknown 20:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

Ani koshevet rega, anni khoshevet kolmashevart vazani mvinashekilu rega at loss miz asit a shavet a kat.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Bakara Ani koshevi chzmoita kulano ithilba korona. Okay. Ari koza ze shel kulanu ba baita niti ba sha nima laat's mait ehti beuchi vukive beta maiti VP marketing by outsourcing, avo a be mwodgufim gdolim. Veholti le shelevet avodavita bite. Once ailadim khazrua baita biglakola korona was gareim gulimotkashele shelevbin chadvari, vesashi nusha city letovata aaitek. So veret la tetma abbayt, velakhat misra, ba shalavazegemnasti metapele, cheta gurita nu, avo yel kedesha nyuha sotha baima yam' odmod mayan. Masha karalif de shelosha nam ze kutti, niftera, akhemavak, ilo ava lagita milama avak, kaza niagid a khare sh it modeda. M Sartana Shad Vei niftira Veze Shavvaroti Miprinati igamita mon ruahmi tahat lambifasim Shelly ki me ever leze eita ishet miksoma di mba mema shyasta ibenai aita la sete ta naim le echo rutri kaleot. Wow ve kola dilemo cheli, ve cola ksha i vecoze kami daiota yayta avouri gam batkufot yayta avouri sham belatetli etayad velagili fatato sa pochla tosa madim. Zewashkaralif nashelochani v nifte ravezé varoti, ve magbeleze, gamme ayagalpituri metzlenu ba bahevra, vaniya tati ba sev e varishan m'prinata mankalu azata davo khi tovavouri, m'prinatiwa satadavar khipa kotovavuri kiliot bevel vehusere tasukka zeliskoa. Bashalava zhe, tali maskorit ki a yunek madimela i baitekwatoli maskori. Zammer dehmada val Zelyava kotma kiramli lola tetmaer velasother. We ma komaze klaatitilit maserla ya tsira, we betem katafti t sefher, shbarima dinim, sh sefher sipuriem shubu dashla koti nalakahla klichtovata.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

Khati shana. Zas sefher. Michel ba video asze animachikaidze anihad regaly shool ma mizot ba ba cover.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

As betsa masha karali za yuli kolminayonotla cover, ve az laila i hadito routish to fatze akma misiut, shemula e naim sheli a vision, ze shil ta yesetri shonamish dota khamishim kize s shamo dot'matit, ve zean di ruta bereca shil aforkhol a la ala sefer. Va laktiv ki pastiba internet muna. She akiko vale ma sha ni margisha, natatio taki referenz la la meaatsevet, ve'filu ta' pantonim shalatsevani natati la meaat sevet, atke de kah, berof shi ayali ba ruoba vision bi pridati kibaltio tombilemala ta' vision zala.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

Zumalach, lachem shalet.

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Yeshpo ezu di mionze loitaze mashu shela kahti, peme te zeve u uklali, masheken, ani otagidriga mashuala sefer. A seferum mu gdashla khoti, ula tzuv, khashuwli la gin, u sefer ma odoptimi, u sefershemedaber, ala nashim shemit modedimi kolm minematovemashburba kim shelem, vechem yotzimi meh, echem yotzimi zebahu zakim, ekorela ymashu tov, the modani, modba khiov, li rote tahhioviv bokholdava, dafka bomakom sha ali kikasheli rotahiovi, vezerak masha me za kekedze audiota Bemakbil Zlachtma ma'amakim Libzotahiovi, Mamashka. Ve veotomakom shyeti mhus seketbu, masnikra, shumdawala mpialah la tochelah, milvad a libaamu kazo chelmatro tzala sotala, ve shamir gasti shenhachon lila lehit lil moda drachatorim, le mishpahotmi yu khadot, mishpohti miladima la rezef, kieshli malatet. Valotha smorzet la tzmia nitz khalatet. Vezemasha citi be mesha kana kheti la madeti adrachato rib, be makbeleze la karti ta'anche la sefur kadima, voy fakti oto, tzeti oto, citi gam kampete head start shi ayam odmozlach. Anni magisha nila gamwe baye uucheli, anni me la vamishpoh kotot lehime yu khadim, ali m otkashela sotama varze u wayali na kon mi pinata intuitio twa rege avaluga mayali me odmu kav mi pinat mm kama energia li la tetkan ni m ocho melta energia li la banan. Vegileti x'bezhum stirah le hefekh, yma nima tikala zo l'orechad le tiveta, tetla yele k dolbachon, a tabita m energiumit, la bano chele.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Yesh kama tzavim shorim shaurim betem margishim shi trijhemeta khvanazot. Khadad varimarishonim ze breggaaf khana. Wa fantasi lo shamnich beret woofilu loyo de sapele saba wisafta karega. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

Ze shelav me odmu kav shi tzarich regaleakelo to, vela vino toveta ma shmawiot, wo lukeh zman kolha zmanche uut zarichwila dvaraza. Zanekuda hače bedrklal orimar gishim yo ter tzarih lif

מה עושים ברגעי התפרצות

SPEAKER_00 27:40

not, velavin yo terla omek ma'om retafrana, legabe jele shelayem kiya retefu rezef urachhav. Nekudash niya y nekuda sheba ani kurete z meshulash sheba ata nimzabi situazia, xeshba kahal, zato meret ata ha jeled vekal, ba situaze yut miklal xlita. Laurea x' elo yele dib tzuhimi uhadim, an yagizza shalava ze yeled, nishkava la ritpa vi okea ba kenyon, bjegish na ta'im, wa takilu, le rega mum, ekadwa zayatzami meneni. Az laurele yele dib tzuhimi ukhadim, yesh amon ma tzawim kale sh mi gijim lejtim mimakom tzafui, ve lejtim fti'im bemeachuz. Veze shalav, shawre marge u wasama shu lotov, kiasviva sho fete toto al-kinuh. Veze loh yoshev al-ħinuh. Zebihlal loh kashur l-kinuh, za kashur la koshi sila yeled, vela echolechelo le vasete tat'obitoha situacija. Ve'ima naħnu ki orim extannu tafkicha, ħadma smait ken. Aim ta' midna maleta tafkichelanu, loba twah. Ava le fachotha na khuneda shenisinu. When ye pachoti ma ashma, we pa'hoti ma tushati skul azot, sha na khumechanhim ku kotovetailadim, ma xhaasbiwam sha diretlanuklazma.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Matafkich la oreb rega kaze.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

Awrebarega kaze, uuuu tzikla vin shloshadware. Ajad ayeled karega, nim tzabe metsuka, ulosel licha, dafka, bihlal. Wansa ta snyao milat'michatamantra azot me mevinche zeloh, ulos e zhelicha, elaza mitsuka selo, linchom, esan sniot linchom. Litkofefila yeled, le dberil of begova naim, vele shakeflo sha ta mevine ta' koshi. Uansa ta me shakeflo sata mevine ta koshi a mata rash ilcha, le fachot binekudata ma bacheli, i karega, lenatrelet rasha reka. Waraasha reka echulim li ota ka'al, emi khullim li ota muchharet bakanut, emi chholim liot mishiba matnas, baboko, l'enatrel eta veli tzora vuros viva yoter termegena. Bi shum panim wa offen, zelo a shalav, shebani matrilala le khane koto, velagidlo, lama taw sali zetamid, lama za korele kabe komoti bouriiv, lama ta' yeletof babajt, lama etse safta ta' mit na ega heret, lama itiyata o sekaka lo. Shum davami ma sha ta wcele la medita yeled la pama baa, lo ikrebos manaz, lo itha alo tedher. Butwa rega, kolma sha treh la sod, zelargia eta situatya bemikud ala yeled. Huba mirkaska rega. It situatya n'a teh barega shahrey, veqsaniomer barega sha khrei and e kshovli modle sayeg. Zeloikabasnyash ni kastia baita v nigwa situatya, ze chole ghwa khare.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Arega khrei akavana, ze sha yeled nimtabether shuye chholak shiv. Vef sharle na tehita situatia, lahov, z gabycholagia mimeno. Lavovela gid ima atzukhere chainu bazaze paratti, kenen iso kherit. Adi rota la gid lachmashu legabe. Az yesh, ma komle na il siach aim zeloikot pam, bebashrot pam. The kanirai kreo d'bepeamim, ve kol pamil tasiah visavita kheret Aval az yet apazot, a palmazot khazak. Vzeikrep kot mashmoti, venagid ezekf xi situatya zot avwa, ktzata kheret. Vakakholo, zelo, atzlachot tsachot, tzlachotat tzlachotat tslachot, ksheesh ezhi yatzlacha yele dihola yavatzlacha be naizasha yele di iechola yala khilta situatya betsua xi ipachot zmatita voro zot be nayatzlacha.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

At ma viraita meser azemot boro, kiksha tumeratli sha yeled matlahla khileta su ani ani morgi shhaita t'slacha. Ani morgišash zatslacha atzuma.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Ket velifami meshle za gamehirim. Ani yesh yes si pur bestefer, she bo be etzeb mea konechelihel meva keshet mi meneni, xi tia shoshvina xi la bachatunaki enla akianim yo tertiri mwela zabi ruta xi elti soshvina, xe vaniom eret jah. Kola tsafahu sita zot, eze xoshvina itiyeh, tit parek sha mal kulam. Awani meva keșhek mi meneni, vi mit khanenet vani omret, boto bokerani omet wwala, ulajnia misugelim la sotezavura. Vani ruzza, vani bukhere cheken, vani ma zbirali ya el mamo smoċelio xoshvina, vanon tatila lifnot meta khalzeh wwa emlifne zrak boto boker, vanachnu ek shemegiame fikave ma zbirama la sot, zani mazbirali elba milem silila, vani umeret la vanju sala ni shimwot lifneva ħusivet kola khanot, xha sitwazia lottienefitza. Awalma korega emet, brega emet, a muzika mathilalit nagen, wa la kutzhotlitz od ima prahima ele, le kivuna khupa, we el kofeti lo zazaza, ve' az anima vinax kasot pumashu, azani no gat ba leko teret ve ki osala tnuazot be mint shikufkaze mame supemeita nulasot. Ve elomit balbelet, ve no tenet li makaba mezzah, shimashio tzelipo, anilomamina, khatkerin. Aqsaf kola naim shilakala len. Kola jnaim shilakala lenu rana kwaamu watlach nis karigata, slikhaita, eta etakala pnima, ta kala vita

החתונה שהפכה לשיעור בבושה

SPEAKER_00 33:50

khatan, vani margishaita elbon, etabusha, eta loida tezemilimodla tetleze, vesorefli ba mezzah pove adomli, vani mit kofeftelev, vaniumat layael, islanut of kid, yafotlit kademle kiwuna khupa, poina se dze biyachad, van inotenet layad viomatli ima sliha, ima sliha ymasliha vanino tenet layad, vana khu kotsote, vana khu vroteze, van yumeditawitah tla khupaxhihasiwa katan vakala, vani magisashi ešhli po tahat kirenoze. Vze tartemashma. Vaniodace shetalach nudze. Shasinoidze.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

Wow metachama shake of Lotsi Pitish Yoville Hadkarin the Maliv.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Athushot Boto regah eliah la zbirotam, zekmo na kon atwekiraize shitabit hul meme sh e kilo at Pitoma ruma, but yutlachov, kaza margish, at Pitoma ruma, viash ka'al, vakala zelomek kilo tahmitza de khan mi tsachni, hukullo mistakel, alaik atkarega mrkaza injani. Va yel dakokia fa, vi khamuda, we metuka, vezeva afred lomza pešhi, temimena shedaze, shinota la kmakash, ma lamay natnali beza metang, e kheasti la gatba lekotere t'shela. Zoit asi ba xi natnali reflex, reflex, gamloit ka'naz, gama yasli ħasli kale k koladereh. Ve anni ani zo kherecham ze sikuti, aharkah, ba e becha marty, xha ni hefla gidla kalashek sho i metseret ta khatunashi utiu e ta keta ze ki. Ani loiti ta si serret ani bikashti ani aimecha yom z kvalomi shaneli. Imotiu loziu bo torega ket bo to rega z be od mod ki lo ki anid bayashti bi elakan lor tzeti shezei yalia hell shikilo shikaka. She kuf shelit na good. Zayabeshu ma komodifne shik ki balti shez khele kmimena. Ani khoshevet, kilo ani sitili man nama situa tio ta'ele, avalayom ani photni mnat, kore, anime vinavu laiz zea meser, scheze shela, veze mi shi, veze lome idalaiklum, lome idea kloom. Zotomeret, she mato zeshomera yele du loker tisa bikusheli zabidiuk ze.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

Zegam bemete lila medi a itna gotazot e gam shoov zelohi ze vinci kaya be matzav shel kolazmane yeshmin kotev lekan the kotev lekanchu kolazman cham nahut. Vze lokal as legesim ima vana ve ima khemla gam kshe kolaurim katima ze lorakorim e alarezef the jeladim. Kvar by default logvoa as gam yeshpo Messer Khazak Leurim Vegam audio ter Messer Lorim Newchadimita Kesher Vitkashrimai a pratim shellinim tsaim bareshette gama instagram.

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Mm ba perekampo, vanigam aniga mutala git ki talt wa marta lotoho reshit kashere light. Bekamara mot u goremli litragesh kodekol a mikriuchel davar za ostkasele cavle orim vani lomit na devit bakava za karega, anit na davti bo ba var, met kufame ot kzara, ani lomit na devit bo, mikevanch uduesh me khuya vuče sha oot, sheb shaut kriti ot bar domochela erev, ve tzli od yesheta no se shelar dama, velachena nigi ani lobit na dvutozot washna times, eloshanize mispara telefonchili lomu fiasham. Afilo badaktizza, lachta badaqti ki gamit kashartya khakakh ve badaktid ve uit kasherela, ve uamarli anni aloitia ni gati lah fanihayavezra, waza martyo chmani lomitna devechambeloze avanirutzala zoro zbota gidli ma baya, ve boni remanala zor, ve'akhena itti bar de maimi yael, ve'a tzarti etakol, ve ksavtilo, ve' adavara eh ani zuhere

הספר והשליחות להורים

SPEAKER_00 38:55

ani lorutza mkivaja da pratiuche lochule, alorotza agidalmaita asihha, aval ani zuhere kedad varim sha martilo, avalatayodesha ta mera gesho tikiata ma smax besedr, taw sevuda u ritme tzu yenet. Et'sa maalit kashere gav. Ken, et'ama lit kasher, veme everleze vazo marli. Ma bemet, va martilo ken ken a da khui kholeim la tofedze bekatio tertmiha, baqtatio terzberim, vecat yo terze, ava la instinct of psishha, ata ma masho seb sede, uitrhilif kot vuna tali tishto kwarle lom sugalam shikle de ber, we di bati gami mishto. Vena tati la mbsofasi kata telefon chili, ve mit kashwela be mechia vwahar kakah la geche, ma sedibano, emasuvem, panuvem mit kadmuve m, emargi shimma komor beter batuwa. Atyot sati m'a tsa, na khod. Artza'ze shiluf shelit gashmuch el kama khalomot, yachadima, beme ta tzona ze sheli la vire ta messer ala uruta betu khazot leloash ma, ani kchevchamo re s'eloy la dw tzhimiu khadim, shla monri kshota sham, yesham mona mone ulayan busha, kmo shi yesh bet Tsachimi khadim abal yesham amonre gasho ta' shufeti tatzbehak kolazmat. Vaniba vaniomeret, arta shili shlichutle orim, she bava umeret, kodeb kol, atembeseder tfsiku, kolayomli khosal tzmehema limpalte kahua kherit. Yes be met bemet min ad sil dguvoche ħhlot liot, avanazo ch'na khomena trelim, eta ashma, eta busha, et mazomeralai, eta ka'aletrasia reka, shama na kwa echullim liot medwakimba mentoring ezea na chhosim, gamla iladim, ve gamla mixet sofebe tzofeba nuba, bo ta situa tja mmukevecha na khulim tseimba. Az ani kshef ċa sli khuce lize la vovela gidla urima te moussim, beemet, beemet, beemet, et masha te mjhulim, a na khujhulim, le sha peredze, rak im nozzi, et ashma, eta busha, et mazom mera lay, ekmista klimalay, akuza. Dazi regan benechem kheret, ve ore, xi u batuah batzmo ve baurucelo, ayele dyutze rak niskalma da varze. Ki oreshu batuah Baurucelo, gabuter kalo lasimeta gvulot, oreshu batuah baurrucelo, alberter kalo, leatzeret mekomota ele sella sijah, xelaihada le khadi ma jele celo. Oreshi u shelemi matzmo, ve ublija riqshot sham, ubema koma beta batuah le tzaha vajoti ma iladim shelo. Azlama shikulanuloniye sham.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

Todas she taft kolkaha ubema khaim shelach ve mamash kha saft ani ani be me tbemet modalach ve ani tzhala rutzla tzashelach beava. Zamasha ni tzhala sot.

SPEAKER_00 42:14

Ati ba bakwutzari shonashela muzmanim arta karega mamash ba fine tuning shela miprinati y ak shamat khalom ki igam bama le de berba igam sukshel ofa kani kanyo evetze.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

Ato evte storytelling.

SPEAKER_00 42:35

Storytelling, bi khaya storytelling. Vegam khubar la sefer ani khoshevech shabishikamikas sefer ya vin mama kha keloba ofa. Wa barza of slash s'uk vedok todah.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

Todalah, to darabala mfiklam shelano ban consolos, to dash zantem, a tem mazinima shelan la perek protocol patoak. Gam ever la podcast.

סיכום ותובנות אחרונות

SPEAKER_03 43:12

B protocol patoach or body holik tea. Shamanim yom yomim, mekkarim, bekalim prakti.