Chelsee Mena is a BCBA and co-founder with a strong love for clinical excellence, leadership, and calling out the chaos with a little humor. After years of working in ABA and leadership, she’s learned that a lot of hard conversations are not actually about the conversation; they’re about ego, avoidance, poor judgment, and people talking like experts before doing the work or looking at the bigger picture. On Pairing Gone Wrong, Chelsee brings honest insight, practical perspective, and a healthy level of sarcasm for clinicians trying to grow up professionally without taking themselves too seriously. 

Matios Berhe is a BCBA, writer, and professional overthinker with a strong interest in behavior, systems, and why people keep doing weird things and then acting surprised by the outcome. He brings a thoughtful, analytical, and slightly unamused perspective to topics like behavior analysis, measurement, and real-world application. Matios is passionate about challenging lazy thinking, questioning the obvious, and having the kinds of conversations that make people pause, reflect, and maybe realize they were a little too confident.