2 Guys No Credentials

EP004 | My Therapist Thinks My Personality Is a Podcast Bit

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My therapist thinks my personality might just be a podcast bit, which feels less like a breakthrough and more like a problem.

In this episode, we talk airplane etiquette, parking lot behavior, and the slow collapse of public decency. We also get into Justice Roberts, airport pajamas, and the general disappointment of sharing space with other people.

2 Guys No Credentials — strong opinions, no credentials.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to Two Guys No Credentials.

SPEAKER_02

We're two completely unqualified people talk about nothing.

SPEAKER_00

And everything. Like we know what we're doing. Spoiler, we don't. Well, you know, we can't all be perfect.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's that's true. Oh, this is my story. Uh okay.

SPEAKER_01

We'll cut everything out that we started with.

SPEAKER_02

This is my story. And um, it's so funny. So I I saw my therapist this morning, um, and we're talking about we're just getting to know each other. She's new. And um we're kind of talking about, you know, uh me being grumpy and uh like you know, not very happy about things, and just all in all, like have a negative attitude towards life. And um and like I'm seeing her to get help with this, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So he starts asking me, like, well, are there any things like that you find um that that you find satisfying that you do? And I was like, well, my relationship, like I'm very satisfied with like how I contribute to the relationship and this and that. I said I also do a podcast with my buddy Jeff, um, and I find that really satisfying. And uh she's like, oh, well, I'm just curious, uh, what's the podcast all about? So I started telling her, like, I kind of go into like my regrets for the week and what things I hate, um, and kind of give sort of like a comedic satirical um perspective on things happening in pop culture, and she's like, Oh, so this is just your shtick. And and I said, No, I'm here to improve those things, it's not a shtick.

SPEAKER_00

She needs to watch the podcast to absolutely understand that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was like, it's not a shtick, like I'm here for help, but thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, so does she subscribe or what? Yeah, she'll she definitely will be. So that's my story. I'm so glad I remembered it.

SPEAKER_01

That is really funny. It's also amazing that you forgot that that story was centered around how our podcast satisfied you while doing the podcast.

SPEAKER_02

I got a lot of my mind. I'm losing my voice right now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, I hear that.

SPEAKER_01

It's a distraction. That is funny. Well, it sounds, but it sounds like it's you know, this is a therapeutic thing for you, which is cool, man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I it's really cool. I I really enjoy doing this, and I enjoy even as frustrating as it can be going online and like doing the edits and stuff like that. So I yeah, it's it's really cool. I don't hate it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this is yeah, I don't hate it either. I thought it was gonna be, I mean, it was gonna be a lot of work. I thought it was gonna be a lot more work than it actually is, um, which is cool. That's the cool part. There's some things that are you know that we have to take care of and and and kind of do, and you just gotta kind of buckle down and do it. But um I thought it was gonna be a lot harder to come up with things to talk about. I was nervous about how it was gonna be just even us interacting, like kind of do we have enough to fill the time? And so far we've pretty much gone over our time uh every episode. So yeah, it's been this has been really awesome. I hope we can continue to build this thing, man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, me too. I'm excited. But you too. This is my shtick. Maybe I'll just see you as a therapist instead of seeing her, because obviously she thinks I'm making it all up.

SPEAKER_01

I I will gladly take your money. I don't care. I already do when we roll dice anyway. Oh, we didn't do any of that this weekend. Isn't that so weird? Um, like we have these traditions that we always do. It's always cooked together, which we did do. Um, but we didn't do like we didn't like play any games. Aside from like, you know, Pong in the garage uh in that game room. We really didn't do like any of the normal stuff, which is in one way refreshing that we can kind of keep it different each time. But um, I don't know why this trip felt like it went by so fast.

SPEAKER_02

It really did. Well, it was a day shorter than we normally do, I think. I think we do an don't we usually do an extra day? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? You might be right. We might normally do Wednesday to that Sunday, um, which we should do next year. Let's let's let's spy that extra day in. Because it was it was too quick. I mean, really by the time we get there and settled in, and everyone, you know, it's by the time you get in, it's all different times, so you really lose that whole first day anyway. Um then it's just like you one full day, and you know, I know the girls usually like to go out and do an activity that kind of takes away from some of it like going to that uh brewery, uh as much fun as I had there because I got to see everybody. Um you weren't really able to talk to anyone because it was too loud with the music playing.

SPEAKER_02

So I agree. I agree. I had I had no fun there. I hated that place. Yeah, and then uh the pizza, like who doesn't like bad pizza? Like bad pizza is pretty good. Yeah, bad pizza's great. I hated that pizza because I don't think pizza should be fancy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I know your opinion about fancy pizza. Um, and I think I tend to agree. I think we don't need to make pizza something it's not now. Do I enjoy a white pizza, for example? Hell yeah, I'm all in. But to me, that's a pizza. It's not super fancy, it just has different ingredients on it. I don't think we need to elevate like when people make sushi pizza, like I've seen that on TikTok. No, thank you. Get out of here with that nonsense.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's dumb. I I don't even know what's dumb. Yeah, dumb. Can't think of anything else to call that. Well, I can't, but I'm not supposed to say it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you can't say it on here and then us be able to actually post it to YouTube.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it it rhymes with fatarded though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, that that might get us flagged. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Um well I mean, the whole thing just kind of went by really fast. And I even had this, I don't I don't know about you, but I had this like um kind of a emotional uh experience leaving. Anyway, I didn't get I didn't like start crying or anything, but um, I was like a lot sadder than I normally am when we leave those trips. And I think it was just because like all of a sudden, like we were all leaving, and I wasn't like prepared for it. And maybe it is because of that extra day that we we didn't do this time. Um, but man, I I love all you guys so much, and it really it really sucks when we have to say goodbye because I know it's gonna be another year before we're all together again. Hopefully, not hopefully you're able to come up in the summer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I like I I was thinking that the other day because Donald was texting me and uh I was like, why don't we just plan a trip where we all meet in the middle or something or just go to Buffalo?

SPEAKER_01

It's not that far of a drive.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think we're we're always happy to host you guys.

SPEAKER_03

It's the furthest from uh from Tino.

SPEAKER_01

It might be Tino now. It used to be James and Emily from New Jersey. They used to be the farthest. Um now it's probably Tino and Meg. But it's still only like a no, I think it's like a six hour drive for them.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, really? I I thought they were a little further above. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, as I've driven to Boston before, I think it's only about six hours.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean three hours is just Boston traffic.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, no shit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Who wants to do that every day? Dude, I don't even know. You know, I did have something big planned, um, but I didn't get to follow through with it because um just everything going on at work with the promotion and stuff, I just didn't get to prepare. But I wanted to do a murder mystery night where like Paige would just stumble into a room and then fall over like she was dead, and she would have a clue in her hand, and I'd be like, and I would be like, dun, dun, dun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, that would be so fun. I would be all into that. It's halfway made, so next time.

SPEAKER_01

Next time, dude. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's not true. I just have to I have to pick a different victim, though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Sam should be the victim. Sam won't want to play anyway. She's really into murder mystery stuff, but she wants to be the person figuring out who's the murderer. So it'd be really great to make her the victim, but she can't really participate.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yes, please.

SPEAKER_01

All right, people. What do you say? We kind of get into this here. You got any updates for us?

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, I know you wanted to talk about the um Olympics.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, man. Yeah. Uh like obviously everyone knows now, but uh US took gold uh in both men's and women's hockey. Um, and obviously, I feel like hockey is the biggest sport of the Winter Olympics. Like, that's that's like the crown jewel, right? Um so it's really cool. No, no, you don't think so? What is it, curling?

SPEAKER_02

Curling.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I mean, I do love curling. Uh to me, that is my favorite of the Winter Olympic sports. Uh, but thinking like generally globally, the way people react to the different sports, I feel like most eyes are on like uh men's hockey team. Um, and then the women's like dominated every game this year. They won a game 16-0, and that is unbelievable. Okay, they they they absolutely dominated. Um, but I thought was really interesting was both the U.S. uh men's and women's hockey won the gold medal game in overtime, shooting on the same side of the ice.

SPEAKER_03

Incredible.

SPEAKER_01

Which is kind of neat. Like for them to both win gold is crazy. The men's haven't won gold since since 1980 in the miracle game. Uh although it wasn't even that wasn't even the game, by the way. Most people don't even know. When they played Russia in 1980, that wasn't even the gold medal round. That was just to get to the gold medal round. Yeah. And so that was but it was so yeah, what's interesting about the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02

I just know that Kurt Russell was in with playing, right?

SPEAKER_01

Isn't that yeah, his hair yeah, his hair feathered and lethal, dude. I think yes, he's a handsome man. Yeah, um, but the hype of that game in 1980, the reason it was so big is the U.S. invited the Russian team to play at Madison Square Garden weeks before the Olympics started, where Russia dominated that game like 10 10-2 or something like that. But the US learned how Russia likes to play the game, and they learned their mistakes, they learned how to defeat them. And so when they got to the Olympics, um, they were able to pull it off only to go to the gold medal round. And I think that's just so interesting that everyone focuses on that game because that's even winning the gold. So I don't know. Really, really cool. I'm really happy uh that they finally uh got to take it over Canada too, which is really cool. Um now being so being in Buffalo and so close to Canada, we love our Canadian people, so I could not have lost in that game. Um, I do feel really bad for Connor McDavid, the best player in the world, possibly ever. Um, and he cannot he lost two back-to-back Stanley Cups, followed by the Olympics. And that poor guy just cannot buy a win.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know, gotta move to America.

SPEAKER_01

Gotta move to America. Well, it's it's so interesting, too, because we uh the the Sabres were so bad at the time when he was drafted that we uh got in the draft lottery, like the second overall pick. Uh so we we wanted Connor McDavid. We we took Jack Eichel, who's also fabulous, on the U.S. Olympic team, scored a couple goals. Uh unbelievable. We almost took Connor McDavid, and I wanted that guy so bad. Um, I just wonder like how different things would have been if he was on this team. Um, especially right now with the Sabres are hot. So we'll see how that kind of works out um for them this year. Uh, but poor Connor McDavid. Uh I do want to point something out though. Um, the overtime rules in the Olympics in the elimination rounds are so stupid. Like, I'm glad the US won. So in overtime, it's three-on-three. They do that in the NHL too for a lot of reasons. It speeds up, like it defines a winner before going to a shootout. The worst way uh a championship game or playoff game could end is in a shootout. Shootout. So to try to get around that, they have a three-on-three, but three on three to me is even worse. Because if you take a shot on goal and it misses or deflects, the other teams go in the other way, and they're not man rush, and like you're basically done. So it doesn't really make better hockey. Um, I really wish we would have seen a five-on-five, like regular period, 10 minutes, and just like see who scores. Like, that's to me, that's how you find the best team, not just the luckiest bouncer opportunity.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I can get behind that if I watched hockey. Our listener might. It makes it makes a lot of sense because I I don't like when we um like I think like the the stakes should be raised at that level of like that level of play. Um don't aren't the overtime rules the overtime rules are different in the NFL, aren't they? In the playoffs?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah. So in the playoffs, and that it makes sense, right? Because you want to game the the players, like the NFL PA, they want games to end because they're so physically taxing, you're risking more injury. So they want games to end quickly. So in the regular season, whoever wins the coin toss gets the ball. It's basically sudden death. In the playoffs, this is basically the Josh Allen rule. Um, in the playoffs, each team gets to have the ball on offense once. So it does raise the stakes a little bit because if you're the first team that scores, you can decide do I try to go for two or do I just kick the field goal? Almost everyone just kicks the extra point just to make sure you have it. Now, if you're the second team that gets the ball, now you can decide do I just try to win it here or do I just try to tie it? And then we see what continues to happen. Yeah. Um so I don't know. I I I feel like football fixed that problem. I think in the NHL, it's caused a bigger problem.

SPEAKER_02

Now we gotta do something with the kid about the kickoff rule. You don't like the kickoff rule? Uh no, I don't like the kickoff rule. I I always like about it. Uh I just like so I mean I guess we're we are seeing they're still running it back, but I feel like it um lowers the amount of run backs you get. Interesting. Um yeah, because like, all right, well, we don't let's protect the ball, uh, let's just take um let's just take a knee, or let it just go into the end zone. Like that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_01

Um, this is interesting to me. So I did a lot of digging into this exact thing before they changed the rule. Or sh excuse me, the year they changed the rule, the reasoning behind it. Um I took this deep dive into some of the podcasts that I I watch that are specifically like football related, um, as well as uh pro football focus. The stats uh for before the rule change, teams would take the ball at around the 30-yard line, like 90% of the time. And after the rule change, they're still getting the ball at the 30 around 90% of the time. So it effectively changed nothing for where the ball ends up or where that drive starts. Okay. It it does make it safer. However, it doesn't pass the eye test, does it? It doesn't because I agree with you, it doesn't feel like there's as many runbacks, it doesn't feel like it's as exciting of a play. What I'm surprised by is that special teams coordinators aren't designing plays around the structure of how everyone has to line up. Yeah, I don't know. Because they have to kick the ball into either the end zone or the landing zone, so it can't be short. Right. Uh so I'm wondering why there's not more people kind of ready to receive the kick, like three guys, and they do a little reverse or something. Like, why haven't we designed a play around this yet? Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. That's a good question. Because that might make it a little more exciting. Because I do feel like it's less exciting now, but if there's just as many, I I don't know. Uh that's the that's news to me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because it doesn't seem like it at all. It seems like a just a boring it seems like why are we even doing this pageantry? Just like have the other team start with the ball for 30.

SPEAKER_02

Like what's the way put them on the 25. Split the difference. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

unknown

Yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Put them on the 10. Let's see some offense.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, uh I think we would hate that. Yeah, I would really hate that. I just said that to be silly.

SPEAKER_02

You'd you'd see like four more punts a game.

SPEAKER_01

I do love me a good punt. I do. Oh, really? I don't love when the game's all punts, but when you get that punt that's like 70 yards on a roll and it just dies at the one yard line, mm, shest.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that is good. I like seeing that. Yeah. That is fun. Um any more about the Olympic sports?

SPEAKER_03

That's all I got.

SPEAKER_02

All right. I have got it's it's a complaint. Yeah, of course. It's a complaint.

unknown

Of course.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Well, this is my this is my shtick. This is your shtick. Yeah. So so over the weekend, we have a place where we like to bring Baloo to walk. Um like it's a two-mile path. It's really nice. Um, there are a lot of dogs there, but the path is wide enough where we can like we can train Baloo and feel like it's a safe environment and nothing weird's gonna happen or anything like that. And all the regulars that go, we all kind of know each other. No, excuse me. Um so like it's it's it's a lot of fun. It's a good time. And uh, oh geez, I just noticed this. There we go. So um we're we're like just starting our walk and we're going up a hill, and there's these group of people, and there's four of them, and they're walking in a horizontal line, taking up the entire path. So page nine, we have to move all the way over to the side, not one of them fucking moves. So I start bitching. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, none of them could have moved, like these hippie fucking liberal idiots. And like, and I'm not making a judgment here, call about people who walk on pads. They were dressed like they robbed a thrift store from Williamsburg, New York. Like, they look like they look like idiots.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm gonna pop some tags.

SPEAKER_02

So I'm I start bitching, and you know, she's like, uh, just relax, it's fine. And I think no, like not one of them could have moved, so we didn't have to like walk in the mud. But just just one of you. That's it. That's or hey, you know, walk two by two, like just like the mall.

SPEAKER_01

Just like the mall.

SPEAKER_02

So everything's fine. I calm down, I'm good. Uh so we're walking through this little garden area where they've got like all these berries and crap planted, but no, no fruit ever. There's never any fruit on these trees or bushes. And who's coming by again? These fucking idiots. And I thought I complained loud enough with actually having to say anything to them, but apparently I wasn't complaining loud enough for them. So they did it again. I couldn't believe it. And I I lost my mind, and finally I got some validation too, because Paige was pissed that they did it again. And I was like, see, see, it did make you mad. Don't tell me to calm down. You knew it. I just pointed it out, and she's like, Yeah, but you don't gotta get upset about everything. And I'm like, I it's not everything, just these idiots, like these people, and it's not like they're 18 where I could forgive them, like uh, they don't know how roads work yet. They're like at least 23, 24, 25-ish. I'm not really sure. So, but just the fact that not one of them could move, so we didn't have to walk in the mud really pissed me off. And this is what's wrong with America.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know what I love?

SPEAKER_00

You know what I love about this story? I love about this story is as soon as you started talking, I knew exactly where it was going, and I was still not disappointed.

SPEAKER_02

God, I just don't understand it. Get out of the way.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it is common courtesy, right? If you're taking up most of the path that people are walking the other way, you gotta move over a little bit. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Do you have to walk next to each other?

SPEAKER_01

So this is what I love about Buffalo, though. Because not only would those people move out of the way, they would also say hi. How's it going?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I would hate that too. Don't say hi to me. I don't know you.

SPEAKER_01

Or we'd give a scroll bill.

SPEAKER_03

Uh nah.

SPEAKER_01

It there is nothing more satisfying, dude, than when I'm traveling and I'm walking down the street. I see a guy, random guy with a Bills hat on. He sees me in my Bills gear, and we both just walk past each other. We don't really make eye contact. We just go, go Bills. And then we just keep on with our day. Substraight. It's the best.

SPEAKER_02

It's the best. This is something I had to get used to when we live in Ohio. Because we would be walking down the serial aisle at the store. And somebody would be like, hello. And I'm and I'd be like, who are they talking to?

SPEAKER_03

Why are they saying hello to me?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, what is this? Or I'd be wearing like an Ohio State like sweatshirt, and somebody would be like, Oh, H, and I'd be like, What? Why are they yelling at me?

SPEAKER_01

What are they doing? Dude, I uh I have done that to a thousand people in airports and they always have your reaction. That's how I know they're not from Ohio. Yeah, I'm like, I don't understand. Why are you yelling, oh H? Yeah, no. Sam gets so disappointed when she sees someone around here in Buffalo and they're wearing their Ohio State gear and she goes, oh H and they go, huh?

SPEAKER_00

She gets so sad about it. She feels really upset.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Don't just stop doing it.

SPEAKER_03

Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_01

Did they eventually leave you alone?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, we left.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, you just got the hell out of there. We specifically left because of them. See? This is what's that that that should be a town rule. The town should be notified that these morons were in there walking and then made you leave the park early.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's not true. I'm making that part up, but good. I agree. Yeah. I agree. Nice. So that's that's my park story.

SPEAKER_01

Well, listen, I think that you're right. I think that a lot of I think that our only listener will find a lot to uh uh be able to you know connect with in that story. This is true. You go you go to the the park or the mall or like anywhere where just like random people are around. If you're taking up the whole thing and someone's walking the other way, just get just move over a little bit. Give us some space, we'll give you some space. You know, we're walking in the mud for you. The least you could do is give us a little bit of pavement.

SPEAKER_02

Right. I agree. Yeah, get out of the way. It's just common courtesy. And you know, I won't be complaining about you on the internet later. So there's that too. It's all a play.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, they'll end up seeing this and being like, oh my god, I think that was me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Is he all four of us?

SPEAKER_03

Is he talking about us?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

We did go to the thrift store that day, Jeremy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um and I think it's great. Um, neither of us have any regrets.

SPEAKER_01

For the first time on this podcast, neither of us have a regret of the week. This is great. See, therapy's already working.

SPEAKER_02

I know. Well, yeah, yeah. When she when she made me realize that I was going for no reason, like all my cares just fell away. Yeah. I'm not yeah, I'm not worried about a thing now. I'm ecstatic.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's great, man. And like, congratulations on your promotion as well. I don't think we talked about that on the podcast yet. Oh, thanks for having me. I think it's well overdue. So I'm glad it finally happened for you. Um, so I'm really excited for you. So yeah, I mean, I guess it has been a pretty, pretty good week for you. And um, yeah, no complaints. Is there anything about this week that you've absolutely loved?

SPEAKER_02

Uh oh, well, I got a snow day yesterday, so maybe. Dude, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, we yeah. I think we got like 16 inches.

SPEAKER_01

Good for you. That's Buffalo weather, man. We didn't get that much. So stupid. It is stupid, dude. It won't. I mean, it snowed a lot like yesterday. There was like a winter advisory. Um, but man, the snowblower is still not back and it will not stop snowing.

SPEAKER_02

Wait a second. It's not back from where?

SPEAKER_01

From the repair shop.

unknown

Wait a second.

SPEAKER_02

How hard could a snowblower be to fix?

SPEAKER_01

Well, here's the deal. They had to order parts in for it because they had to reassemble some bullshit in there. Um, now the problem was there was so much so much bad weather in most of the country that it disrupted supply chain, so it delayed the parts even getting there. Now it is Buffalo in the winter, so they're already four weeks behind in their repair schedule. So even if they get those parts on time, it's still gonna be a month before they're actually able to touch it.

SPEAKER_02

So across America, there's snowblowers not being repaired, and the snow's just piling up and making things worse. Piling. Yeah. Wow. So it's like this vicious cycle. You're never gonna get your part.

SPEAKER_01

Never gonna get my part. Never gonna I'm gonna get that snowblower in mid-May, and I'll just put it right in the shed. Nice.

SPEAKER_03

All right.

SPEAKER_01

I was joking about this with my brother because we used his truck to bring it out to the repair shop, and it was a friggin' snowstorm just bringing it out there. There was like 10 feet of visibility, and we're driving through all this. And I'm just like, the the irony of us driving a snowblower through a snowstorm to go get fixed, only to get it back after all of the snow is gone is absolutely perfect.

SPEAKER_02

This would be like a great short story thriller. Like, do you get there? Do you not get there? Does your driveway ever get clear? Who knows?

SPEAKER_01

It's more like a Seinfeld episode. Okay, that that too.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, well, I'm glad you had a good week, man. I had a really good week too. Um, I don't think I have anything really to complain about. Uh things are just kind of trucking along, and um, yeah, I'm I'm feeling pretty good. But I always feel pretty good. You can't keep me down and too positive. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

I know. It's what I love and hate about you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, man, we gotta find the good. I think, especially like um doing what I do and like leading people and and working a lot with like our teams at work. Um, it's just uh I've kind of just ingrained this into myself to just be positive and find the positives and things that are happening all the time and try to ex you know be the example for that. And uh like Sam hates it too, and sometimes I do too. Sometimes I just want to be mad about something, but then I find that silver lighting and I'm like, god damn it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I'm gonna take a different approach. I think what I'm gonna do is uh be so miserable, it drives them to work harder so they get to go home early.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, all right. Well, we we might want to workshop that. Let's talk, let's talk offline about that.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I'm gonna give it like three, four months, and we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm gonna give it three, four years, see what happens.

SPEAKER_02

So, oh man. Yeah, all right. I you know what though, I'll be honest with you. It was a good week, and sometimes not having something to complain about really makes me sad.

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah, alright. I I mean it makes me sad too, because I I love when you complain about stuff. It makes me laugh so hard because I get you. Uh and hopefully our listeners do too.

SPEAKER_02

Well, uh soon I'll be complaining about um a former Buffalo resident, so you'll be happy about that.

SPEAKER_01

You're complaining about a former Buffalo resident?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Me? No, no, no, no, no. Uh Justice Roberts on the Supreme Court.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Yeah, let's get into our uninformed takes. Yeah, he's from Buffalo. What a what a segue.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's from Buffalo Court.

SPEAKER_00

That was great.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you like that, dude. I loved it. Give me more. All right, so uh this week the Supreme Court they ruled against basically all of Trump's tariff policy. Right? Which I a hundred percent agree with. It's way too broad. Um, and I hope that it rains in other presidents going into the future when it comes to their tariff policies, but I doubt it. Um but uh uh Justice Roberts, I don't like him. Uh a lot of people like Roberts. I don't understand why. I think he's uh an idiot. Uh obviously he's an idiot, he's on the Supreme Court, he can't be that smart. Um but so I would just like to take a moment and point out that for the purposes of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, as people like to call it, um he said that for the for the purposes of the bill, that it was a tax. So that was how Obama got around the Commerce Clause. And I just don't see how we say forcing people to buy a product or a service is a tax. But then this time around, he was like, Well, the tariff is obviously a tax because the American people are paying the cost, so you can't do that either. So I just want to point out that irony. I don't like Justice Roberts, and it's just really strange. I understand they're two very different cases and uh very different laws, but I just thought I'd point that out because I dislike him so much.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I have a couple of questions because I really don't know anything about Justice Roberts. Um, but it sounds like what you're pointing out is on one hand with the Affordable Care Act, he uh vo like I guess allowed it to pass because it's uh because it's a tax, right? Right. And then in this instance, he's like, no, we can't do it because it's a tax. Right. So love that you pointed out that hypocrisy. Um it sounds extremely partisan to me, and that is exactly what's wrong with American politics right now. Um is there's no there's no actually looking at does this benefit the people? It's is this a an issue that my party can get behind, that I can be in with my party. That's what it sounds like to me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I really don't. I I so I don't want to call I think the I do think uh here, here, let me start over and collect my thoughts. Because I have a lot of them. All right, okay. So I I don't want to say that um uh I don't want to say that it was a par partisan decision or ruling on his part. Um but I just think that um we're like so here's my thought, and I think every policymaker, every um, every judge, anybody in the government should really like take a quick look at themselves and ask themselves, what are taxes for? Are they strictly for revenue or are they about control? Because they should be just strictly for revenue.

SPEAKER_01

Right. To improve things like our roads, our parks, make sure that the paths are wide enough so people can walk four by four.

SPEAKER_02

Right. To buy every man, woman, and child uh, you know, an AK-47, whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but I I think it's just a really good question that people need to I think I think I think it's a question that nobody thinks about anymore because obviously um the Obama-era decision was about control, it was about forcing people to buy a product and service, and they found a way around the Commerce Clause. And um I just have a huge problem with that. And now we're saying, well, Trump can't do all the things uh because it's a tax when sure, it's a tax on the American people. Not really. It's a terrorist.

SPEAKER_01

It's indirect, indirectly, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um, and that's my whole problem. And I was gonna go on this huge long soliloquy about this whole thing, uh, but I think we'll just stop it there. Uh, because um I don't want to get into the weeds when we're talking about it. Yeah, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01

This concept. First, first of all, soliloquy, great SAT word. Really appreciate that. Um, yeah, no, I I mean I I I think that that sounds right. I mean, again, I think we both agree that that the Supreme Court, you know, not passing Trump's tariff policy is a good good idea, right? Like, it's not a good policy, it's not really much of a policy at all. Um, so probably a good thing, but I don't like I I agree with you, I don't like their reasoning for it. Like if you would have said that passing this will cause you know this much inflation over the next 10 years, that that we can get behind. But the the reasoning I don't I don't like. I think I I think we agree there.

SPEAKER_02

Right. I mean, uh some of the uh some of the justices had some very good reasoning, and uh some of them just had some really silly ones, um, like Sotomayor and uh uh uh Jackson. They were basically like, well, um, yeah, we don't want him to do that, but other presidents that we like, maybe they should be allowed to do it. Like that's kind of what their decision was like, and I just oh god. Like, come on, people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh that doesn't make any sense to me either. Uh to use tariffs the way they're being used right now has um historically always been a bad use of tariffs. Um it causes too it causes inflation too much too quickly. And that's it's hard for American people to swallow. And then combined with the the BBB, um, it just causes too much disparity in the middle class, and that's a tough thing. So um I don't know I don't know why everyone has to it's like Supreme Court justices, for example, have to make it like this partisan issue because we don't like this president. That might be true, you don't have they don't have to like him, but let's judge the policy based on policy and and what how and the impact that it has, as opposed to we're not gonna pass this because we don't like the guy. Right, I agree.

SPEAKER_02

And on the other side of that, um, there's so many conservatives like online just being like, oh well, the Supreme Court just ruled against America first. Actually, no, they just ruled against an unconstitutional tariff policy that was way too broad. And honestly, it uh it's not sustainable. And um, I don't know what the economy is gonna look like or how it's gonna respond in the next year, because that's kind of like, or probably in the next six months, that's kind of one we'll see. Like, okay, uh, did these tariffs really affect the economy or not? Um, I don't know because everybody's like, oh, tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, it's gonna be fine. But who knows?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean it's it's tough to it's tough to be able to predict. Um, I I do like the the website, the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, because they already they're already charting this. And uh, I think for the it in my opinion, in my view, looking at the numbers, we're already seeing a negative impact of uh this tariff. I guess I'll call it positive policy, even though it's an executive order. Um but that doesn't mean it has to stay that way, it doesn't have to be negative forever. I don't really see a lot of positives in that just with the economics background that I have. But you know, it remains to be seen. Um, we'll see.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I think it's silly. And um, but we'll see how he responds. Because I mean he does have he does some have some tariff powers um delegated by Congress. Uh they're not that broad. So we'll see how he responds because I I think it'll be interesting. Yeah. Because he doesn't like he doesn't like to be told no, so oh, he certainly doesn't like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, neither do tril children, so would you like to neither do most children? I I fiddle around uh with my keys sometimes, and I should make too much noise when I do when I drop them. Um it's like a thing. It's like you remember like fidget spinners, like fidget tools. I have to like like when I'm in a serious conversation with somebody like that I work with, I have to like just fiddle around with my pen or something like that because it helps keep me focused.

SPEAKER_02

Um that's I just I just pick my nose.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, perfect. You know, everyone's got their thing. Yeah, all right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um, but that's really all I got uh on that, because I like I prepared to talk about this for like 30 minutes. And I I had a conversation with my dad earlier, and it was a really nice conversation, but um it just didn't it it's boring. It's shit I find it's stuff I find interesting, but uh it's boring.

SPEAKER_01

I'm happy to talk about it more offline. Sure, absolutely. Hell yeah. Um all right, why don't we get into uh my uninformed take and then we'll get into the BAFTAs if we got time. Oh yeah, we got time. So mine's not so much of a take as it is like an opinion, I guess, which I guess is a take, so whatever. Um I think that we have all these unwritten rules uh on airplanes when we travel, and I think we need to talk about it.

SPEAKER_03

Alright. But fuck.

SPEAKER_01

As you know, a few months ago I flew to California. Uh we were playing uh uh a wedding out there, and I noticed all of these things going on around me that I don't think I've paid attention to before. Uh but for the love of God, your jacket does not go in the overhead bin. That space is for my bag, you bitch. Like that's how that's how this works, right? The people are standing up and they're shoving like their shoes and socks into the friggin' overhead bin. Don't take up space that you don't need. Your socks can stay on your person, your jacket, put it behind your back or on your lap like every other normal person. I cannot stand this. The second thing I cannot stand when we're traveling is as soon as we pull up to the gate and that light goes off, everyone stands up. You're not going anywhere for at least 15 more minutes, you bitch. Just sit your ass down, enjoy your little time with your friends or colleagues or whoever the hell you're flying with, but do not stand up and take space in the in the aisle. Because there's people that need to get up and get off that are up front, and you're just standing here. I don't know, it just bothers the shit out of me. I don't even turn my movie off. I am watching this goddamn movie until everyone in front of me is off the plane, and now I can stand up and get my shit, and we can go. Uh I also like so we would fly southwest a lot because they had that package that give you that free check back. Beautiful thing that they did for the society, and now they have taken that from us.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, oh, really?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's it's over, baby, because they hit you with, hey, we have assigned seats now, so it's a lot easier to get on the plane. And I'm thinking, awesome. So I'll skip my spot in in line, I'll select the seats that I want. I don't got to worry about saying, figuring out with all my friends, okay, where are we all gonna find a space, we can be near each other, so we can hang out and enjoy our flight. Except you have to pay extra to assign your seat. They don't tell anybody this. So now you don't have a free check bag. It's still the same chaos, except some people have already selected their seats. So now there's even less chance of you finding a seat that you want to be in. And all of that to me is so stupid. Stupid. So everyone, myself included, that everyone and I know have all dropped our Southwest cards because there's no point in racking up points to use for an airline that you don't want to be on to begin with. And I understand most people don't want to be on Southwest Airlines anyway, but most of you don't understand. My wife packs way too much shit and brings that extra bag. And we needed that extra checked bag.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she does.

SPEAKER_01

But I it's uh flight like people on flights. So we were standing in line, and my my my buddy uh asked the guy next to him, hey, what what number are you? It was with Southwest Flights, you get your number assigned, your letter and number, and then you line up accordingly, and that's how you get on the plane. Yeah, so I remember that. He turned so that guy turns to him and he's like, Why do you care?

SPEAKER_00

And he's like, he's like he's like, because I live in society? He said it right to the guy.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, were we on the same plane? I might have said that.

SPEAKER_01

The difference was this guy was at least 76 years old. Okay, it wasn't, it wasn't me. No, and oh, we laughed so hard about that, man. Oh and all, we had a great time. I know we've talked about on the pod already. We had a great time, but man, the the people that uh travel that if you just watch them how they navigate their flights, how they navigate their luggage, it drives me nuts.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, there's there's few places on earth that make me more angry than the airport.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And for the love of God, do not take off your shoes on the flight. Are you joking? Keep your shoes on. Leave your shoes on. If you need your shoes off, you should have worn sandals, you bitch.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. What are you doing? Also, like I'm just gonna say it. No fucking pajamas. No pajamas.

SPEAKER_01

Jesus Christmas. No pajamas on there. The only time I might allow pajamas if you're on an overnight flight overseas and it's like a 17-hour flight. I might allow it for a period of time when you're sleeping.

SPEAKER_02

What so you're gonna require them to go into the bathroom, change into pajamas, and then change back out?

SPEAKER_01

I'm not requiring anyone to do anything. If you want to wear pajamas, that's your pathway.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, all right. That's what you gotta do. All right, I understand. Yeah, I mean, yeah, like people used to dress up to get on an airplane.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It was a big deal. It was a big deal. I don't need anyone to dress up. I just need to not, I just need you to not be a buffoon when you're there.

SPEAKER_02

No, they're all buffoons. But I'll I gotta be honest with you, the people who are running the airlines are buffoons as well. So, of course, it's a lose-lose. Don't travel.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, this one time uh we were flying to New York City, and from from here from Buffalo, it's like you're up and down. It's like it's like a 45-minute flight. It's great. Um, so we were on our way there, and on our flight was uh the starting left tackle for the Buffalo Bills, Deion Dawkins. Now we are in a very small plane because it's just basically a puddle jumper to get there. Yeah. And so he's got his five kids and his wife, and I believe like his the kid's caretaker with them. So he's got a lot of people with him. But this dude is so massive in person, he is enormous. And like he's sitting on the flight, he has to take basically two seats, he can't squeeze into one. And and there was there was room, it was totally fine. But then one of the pilots, like an extra pilot, gets on because he needs to get to uh LaGuardia, because that's where his next flight is. And so he takes the seat next to Deion Dawkins, and now he has to try to squeeze into the seat. I'm like, dude, read the room. Yeah. Read the room. This guy needs the extra seat. Go sit in the back, go sit in the cabin. There's that extra chair in there. Like, dude, go somewhere else. So he's squeezing there for about five minutes before we take off, and he's like, Are you uncomfortable? And Dion's like, Yeah. He was super nice about it, but I just like watched this exchange. I'm like, first of all, this guy's not from Buffalo. I would give this guy the whole plane, I'd go find another one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but yeah, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So then, like two rows back, maybe three rows back, his kid drops this toy. Dion is so enormous that he uh he didn't get out of his seat, he just reached back three rows, grabbed the toy, gave it to his kid across the aisle. Three rows back.

SPEAKER_03

Three rows.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. It was unbelievable to watch. The poor guy, he couldn't stand all the way up on the plane. He's like hunched over the whole like it was I couldn't imagine it, but anyways, airplane stories.

SPEAKER_02

So he only has five kids. I think it was five, yeah. Gotta get your numbers up, man. Get your numbers up. Yeah, but it's not enough.

SPEAKER_01

We need some stuff, we need some uh Chad Ocho Cinco numbers. Do you know how many children he has?

SPEAKER_02

How many children does Ocho Cinco have?

SPEAKER_01

Chad Ocho. He has Ocho Cinco children. You're lying. He said it on a recent podcast. He said it on a recent podcast. Either he already has 85 or he wants to get to 85, but he's not far off.

SPEAKER_02

There's no way. I know. I was talking like Philip Rivers numbers, not 85.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Philip Rivers has 12 kids? 11 or 12, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's too many kids.

SPEAKER_03

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

One's too many. Yeah, I forgot who said this, but it's so true. I think it was Daniel Tosh. Like you can't you can't be a good parent to more than four kids. You know how I know that? My mom had three.

SPEAKER_03

That's funny.

SPEAKER_01

That's not true in my case. My mom is the best.

SPEAKER_02

Uh so uh what happened to Daniel Tosh anyway?

SPEAKER_01

Um he's actually on tour again. My my brother just got tickets to go see him. Oh, really? Yeah, he uh the when Tosh.0 ended, um he just kind of took a lot of time off. I'm sure he's probably been writing in that time. He does have a podcast, um, and it's a way different tone. Um I think like the Tosh.0 and like his previous specials, that's like a character that he would do where he's like kind of an asshole and kind of like dark comedy, all that stuff. But it's his podcast is more like really himself, and he seems to be like a super nice guy, but I do love his comedy.

SPEAKER_03

I don't yeah, uh I don't know anything about him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you're not a big stand-up guy. That's one of my favorite forms of art, is like music and comedy. I think it's so interesting to be able to move people to feel an emotion like that quickly.

SPEAKER_02

I appreciate stand-up uh comedians and the art form. I do. Yeah. I just like it's something wrong with my head that I don't find it a lot very funny, but I do appreciate what it takes to get us there, bring us on that story, and then deliver that punchline correctly in the correct order. Um yeah. Uh but uh I I was watching an interview with uh uh Jerry Seinfeld, and I man, I can't remember who was on it, but they were talking about a joke that like they couldn't make, like it was kind of a racist joke, and uh they were dissecting the joke, and um Jerry like flipped some things around, and they're like, Oh my god, that's that's the pun. Like I was saying the punchline first, and he's like, Yeah, you're the setup's all wrong. Like, this is how I would do it. You know, like this is the punchline, and um so I can appreciate that, uh, but for some reason, something something screwing in my brain, I just find I I just don't laugh.

SPEAKER_01

Well, luckily for you, uh my rate of uh my therapy rate of $150 an hour. We can uh address this in your next session.

SPEAKER_02

Honestly, there's nothing to address, it's just a shtick. I'm laughing on I'm laughing I'm laughing on the inside. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's like part of the genius about Jerry Seinfeld, though, in general. Like the what I what I find interesting about the art form in general is the people that are really good at it, their use of language. Like certain words are funnier than other words, and then the delivery of that and how you combine the two is always really interesting to me. Like, um, I think about the episode of Seinfeld, um, where Kramer's hitting balls on the beach, and then the ball goes into the bullethole.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I uh you've probably seen this too. He was on the Rich Eisencer talk rich eisen show talking about this, and he they didn't connect the two dots until like 2 a.m. before the day before they were shooting it. So um they had to get titleist uh to approve them saying the word titleist on the show. Uh and as a golfer myself, like it has to be titlist. That is like the number one like golf brand. And so for them to be able to like figure out uh with that punchline at the end, was it a titleist? As if it could be anyone else's ball in the ball of a whale, that is such a golfer thing to say, it is such uh it's the perfect word for that. But if they didn't get the approval, that joke would not have worked.

SPEAKER_02

The best part about that too is um uh Jason Alexander, they came to him and they were like, You've got 20 minutes to um uh memorize this monologue. And he he and Jerry was like, Yeah, I'm not real react like acting, reacting, I'm actually reacting to how good he did the monologue.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's a true actor, man. The show is the best. It is the best. And like just to touch on Jason Alexander for a second, he he uh came up through stage acting. We're like, that's what you have to do. You have to memorize a monologue, and you gotta get it right that the first night and every night. And so that's a skill that you learn. Like when I was back uh acting, I never really like I would memorize my lines, but I wouldn't start there. I wouldn't start by trying to memorize each word. I would just try to memorize the situations and like what my character's trying to get across. And so it's a lot easier to break down and figure out like what's the what's this person saying, what are they feeling, and what are they doing, how are they reacting to the other person? And so like him getting through that monologue is like a testament to the work that he's put in uh on stage and and being like doing that over and over again, but one of my favorite episodes.

SPEAKER_02

Sam. And there was a time where I thought maybe um I could be a great actor, and then we did our intro voiceover, and I realized I wouldn't be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01

You know what though, with enough practice, uh anyone could do it, man.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03

I thought like I was gonna be like a great actor, like you know David DeCovney.

SPEAKER_00

Of all the actors, David DeCovney is the idol.

SPEAKER_02

I'm re-watching uh X-Files right now.

SPEAKER_01

So X-Files is great. So is Californication.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Californication is in my top five all-time shows.

SPEAKER_01

Great show. Loved every second of that show.

SPEAKER_02

The dialogue, the writing, the dialogue, it was incredible until that last season was last season was terrible, but they a lot of shows don't know how to end.

SPEAKER_01

Like what happens with like HBO or Showtime shows, like they kind of just get told, hey, we're taking this off the air, and so no, you gotta wrap it up. And so, and it never works out.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I think actually, in that case, I think they just added they were like, the fans want another one, so let's do it. And it was just horrible. Yeah. Horrible. But well, my my my favorite movie line of all time is uh from that TV show where um uh David DeCovney he's writing for like a rap artist who's now in a like a buddy comedy type thing. And yeah, the the rap star's tagline is killing bad guys is my business, and business be fucking cracking, yo.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I never heard uh like I wish that wasn't fake and it was in a real TV show. I would love it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, speaking of acting, why don't you get into the BAFOS?

SPEAKER_02

Oh god. Did you hear about this?

SPEAKER_01

I saw the clip, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. What the hell is going on? Um at the British Academy Film Awards, um Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, I think that's how you're how you pronounce that name. Yeah they were where they they were receiving an award for Sinners, which is on my list.

SPEAKER_01

Sinners is a is a great movie.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's uh it's on my list. So uh don't tell me.

SPEAKER_01

There are parts of it that you will hate. I won't tell you which parts. You will hate some of it, but I thought I thought the acting and the presentation of the movie was excellent.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, well, I'll have something to complain about.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And that'll make me happy.

SPEAKER_01

Um talk about it next episode.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So they're um they're accepting this award, and a man named John Davidson, who uh has Tourette's um yelled out the N-word.

SPEAKER_03

He sure did.

SPEAKER_02

And like if anybody else did that, it wouldn't be funny. But the fact that a man that with Tourette did it, it's kind of funny, although it is sort of terrible at the same time. Now, yeah, I'm gonna break my thoughts down here, because um Tourette's from what I know, um, whatever you're not supposed to be saying, like that syndrome will kind of force you to say. And that's kind of why it's funny. But then you think about well, does this how what is this man thinking in the back of his mind? For that to get pushed forward. But all in all, I don't think we should blame the guy.

SPEAKER_01

Jamie Foxx No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02

Jamie Foxx is like online being like, this is completely unacceptable, and blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm just like, shut up, Jamie. You're like, when when was the last time Jamie Foxx did anything good?

SPEAKER_01

Shut up. I think I think it was the movie Ray 2001.

SPEAKER_02

Right, exactly, which was great. Um Miami Vice was terrible.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I guess Django.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that was a long time ago, too.

SPEAKER_01

That was a long time ago, too.

SPEAKER_02

I actually didn't like that movie that much.

SPEAKER_01

Was he aware that the the man who said that has Tourette's?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, but I I feel like you should. Like if I know he's got Tourette's, I think I feel like Jamie Foxx should know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, he should know. Uh well, I think Alan Cummings, Alan Cummings came on the mic afterwards and mentioned if you like if you heard any disturbing rhetoric tonight, you know, it's it's it's it's a product of uh Tourette's syndrome, so we apologize for the inconvenience or whatever. He he he he let addressed it right after.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think, yeah, I think one of the biggest complaints though was like the apology was too soft or weak. And it's like yeah, but like uh that's all you really gotta say. The guy's got Tourette's.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, first of all, there you we we shouldn't be apologizing for people's disabilities. Like, like I I think it's fine to say, you know, if you heard anything tonight, it's it's it's for this reason. Yeah, we're sorry that it happened, but I don't think it needs to go further than that. The guy, I'm sure, didn't want to say it.

SPEAKER_02

No, I I'm positive the guy didn't want to say it. Even if he wanted to say it, he didn't want to say it in that room, like on a public yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know what one of my first thoughts were? Like, that guy was probably there with you know family, colleagues, um, you know, friends, and like how embarrassing and mortifying that must have been for him to um have have said and like know that he had said it out loud, he can't control it. And like I I don't know, I feel I feel for him because like that that has to be a horrible thing to to to deal with.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I uh what a what a terrible moment. But I mean we get to laugh about it.

SPEAKER_01

So that's good. Yeah, like we all agree. Tom Segura said this, I believe. People like disabilities themselves are not funny. People with disabilities also not funny, but some are and some can be funny, yeah. Honestly, like I in my in my family, just from personal experience, um, I have quite a uh a couple of family members um that have uh uh disabilities. Um my uh mom's cousin uh Jenny has cerebral palsy and she's confined to a wheelchair. Her husband also has cerebral palsy, confined to a wheelchair, and uh they're excellent people, super funny and super smart, but what they love the most is um to joke about it.

SPEAKER_03

Like because it can be funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And right, like my so they're they're um so it's my cousin Jenny. Um she's amazing. Um, her brother Jimmy, he's like kind of like the class clown of our family, and he is he makes he roasts everyone in the family, doesn't matter who you are, he he'll give it to you, and it's always funny, super witty. Um, but what they appreciate the most, and just speaking for my family, they appreciate when they're included in that because that that makes them feel normal. That's they're just like everyone else, they're all getting razzed the same way. And I know that they they appreciate it and they find it hilarious, you know. Um, like what do we you know, should they not be included just because they're they're different or they have an element? They're they're just like in our family, they're just like everybody else.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I agree. Unless it's like that that disability where you have like just terrible, terrible, terrible body odor, then you shouldn't be included in anything else.

SPEAKER_01

No, you need to stay home.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You use Instacart and get those groceries delivered.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, FaceTime. Hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we'll we'll check in. We'll check in.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, we'll make sure you're all right. We'll make sure you get your prescription deodorant. Don't worry.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So that I just wanted to touch on it because I I felt so bad for this guy. Um but also also what a what a terrible and hilarious place to do that. Oh my god. It's so good. Yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Like if you don't if you don't find that a little bit funny, right? Um, and I hope he has a good sense of humor about it. He obviously didn't mean to say it, but obviously like would have controlled it if he won, if he, if he could. Uh but I I mean hopefully he's got a good sense of humor about it. And I hope that the actors that were on stage, I sounds like outside of Jamie Foxx, I hope they understand and had a good sense of humor about it, too. Because when you when you zoom out, it is funny. It's a lot like the the uh Will Smith slap, right? Like that wasn't funny at the moment for Chris Rock to the rest of us, absolutely hilarious.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Well, you know what though? He turned that into his a whole special and he crushed it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Because you have to. Then that I mean, maybe that's the positivity in me, but if you can't take a bad situation and be able to laugh about it or to make it funny and like as a way of coping, like you have to be able to laugh at yourself sometimes. Like, you know, I I love it when like you guys are roasting me a little bit uh on the trip we were on, and it's funny, it's good, it's it's healthy to be able to like laugh at the funny things that you do or the your mannerisms or the way you conduct things. I think that's uh I think we need a little bit more of that in our lives.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I agree. I hopefully um hopefully some of those actors reached out to him just to be like, hey man, it's cool. So if any famous actors are listening, reach out to the guy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I highly doubt our one listener is Jamie Foxx.

SPEAKER_02

I hope Jamie Foxx isn't listening to this. Because he's ter he's terrible.

SPEAKER_01

You know, for a guy that has as much talent as he does, I it's surprising you don't like see him use it more.

SPEAKER_02

Actually, yeah. Um you know that that's funny. We always talk about actors that we think are great actors, and I think Jamie Foxx is an incredible actor. I agree. But I I do know he I I think like he got sick recently and then like separated from acting or something. I don't know. Something happened. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01

Um seriously ill?

SPEAKER_02

Um serious enough where he wasn't acting for a little bit. Wow. Let's look it up. You want me to look it up?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if I care about Jamie Foxx that much.

SPEAKER_02

All right. I've I've already quit.

SPEAKER_01

All right.

SPEAKER_00

But um uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

God, I hope he's not our one listener. I know, I know. Uh like he was like, oh my god, they're gonna check. Now we just disappointed him.

SPEAKER_00

Uh he just wants his Google searches to go up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh my god, they're gonna Google me.

SPEAKER_01

Um right, that'll be two this month.

SPEAKER_02

Right. So um I think um uh let's just get into things are things I hate.

SPEAKER_01

All right, dude. Now this is one we've talked about before. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, um no, let's let's we talk about something a little negative. Go do your things I love first.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah, I don't have a thing I hate. You know me. I just don't have something I hate this week. Um, I although I guess I did talk about uh the things I hate about people on airplanes, um, but that didn't happen this week. Um something I love that happened to me especially this week. Um, man, I got to play music again. And uh now that I've seemingly been accepted into this this band, and then we've got some shows coming up talked about before, um there was this incredible moment when you when you're in the midst of kind of rehearsing, and you know, the it's musicians that I haven't really played with before, so you're trying to like build that chemistry. Um and you know, it's a little awkward. I'm still learning the songs a little bit, but um on drums it's a lot easier because you don't have to know notes and chords, and you just gotta know the rhythm and like like what the song should be about and like what you know and the kind of the the vibe of it. So it's all feel, and I can feel I can feel my way through that. Um, I feel like I have the songs for the most part nailed down enough that we can kind of go there and be a little free, a little expressive as we're kind of doing stuff. So I'm tossing little fills into stuff, and he's feeling that vibe. And um, you know, we've talked a lot about like what the song should be uh and how it should feel and all that. So I feel like I have a good understanding. So as we were kind of going through it, uh we practiced uh with the bassist. This is my first time meeting her, she's really cool. Um, she's a little bit older, she's got a few kids and stuff, so she's just trying to get herself back into music too, which is which I think is uh fascinating and awesome. But there was this moment where we're all in the midst of a song and we're all feeling it, and we all just kind of like looked up at each other, and you got like uh chills in you because like it was all meshing so well, and I miss that feeling so much. Part of my favorite, like I think tied for my favorite thing about playing music is like performing it live for people, um, but also the rehearsal process when that happens, when that magic comes together, and like you're all just kind of in the midst of it. Um, it's something that's so um it's so unique to to experience. Um, I had the same thoughts when I was like performing like in theater way back in the day. Um, there the there's like a high that you get from that that cannot be matched by, in my opinion, any like drug or amount of alcohol. There's just something so unique and so um freeing when you're in the middle of that moment and you feel it all click and come together, and that chemistry can continue to build. So, like with my main band, um average at best, uh we're also included in the show that I'm playing with this other band, so I have double duty that day. Um, but there's something that we've always had where it just kind of clicks. Look, we've known each other for years. I know if we're jamming something out a little bit and we're getting we're just kind of improvising, I know exactly where my guitarist is going, and I know exactly how to complement that. I know exactly where our bassist is going, who by the way is one of the best bassists in all of Western New York. He doesn't believe so, but I'm telling you that it's true. Um, and I know exactly where he wants to go with it. So we, I mean, the way that that comes together and all just improvise, man, I cannot describe how amazing that feels.

SPEAKER_02

That's awesome, dude. That sounds great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's so much fun.

SPEAKER_02

It sounds like it.

SPEAKER_01

I have no idea what you're talking about, but yeah, it sounds great. Well, one day, how about we do this? When you come up and visit in Buffalo, we'll sit at the piano for one hour and I will have you playing that thing. Uh, I don't know. I got you, dude. It won't take more than an hour. Literally 30 minutes. Because once you realize mostly most of music in any instrument, it's all shapes. I cannot read music. I don't know what time signatures are, I don't know tempos. I just know the feel, and I know the shapes of the instrument. So once you figure out what the shape is and you just repeat it up and down the instrument, and then you're that's it. That's all you gotta know.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's kind of a funny triangle. I know that shape.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, triangle is definitely a shape, definitely right.

SPEAKER_02

Well, some pianos are just a rectangle.

SPEAKER_01

And a rhombus. Yeah, some most piano most pianos are in the shape of a rectangle. With little tiny rectangles.

SPEAKER_02

No, because they got like some of them, you got the um, you know, you got the keys, and then you got a triangle behind it that has a little wavy curb.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, that it would be a grand piano.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, can I ask you another question though? Yeah. Um that I I I when did they start allowing women to play music?

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's a great question. I feel like it was the 19 teens. Okay, but that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02

This is this is really awesome. I uh can I let me ask you another question.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, how do you balance playing with multiple bands like that?

SPEAKER_01

Um, it it can be really difficult. Um what what is nice about Everage at best, that's the band I've been in uh for the better part of 15 years. Those are my buddies from high school. Um we are all really close friends. So what's easy is the songs that we play, like we have committed to memory so easily, and that chemistry just snaps back. Uh, for example, um, when I flew to California, that's who I flew with, was like my band. And we were playing songs we've never played together before, aside from like one. Um, so we didn't really have that much time to rehearse. My my lead guitarist, his wife, who's in my band also, they they live in Rochester about an hour and ten minutes away. So for us to get together and rehearse is a big challenge just in of itself. Um, but you know, as we all commit to knowing our our parts and what we have to do, so then when we bring it to the table, it just kind of flows. So when we were in California at the Airbnb, we got a chance to crack this just a little bit. Um honestly, I think we rehearsed all the songs twice. Like that was all of it. We've never played them together before, but we have that bond and that chemistry that we can all just kind of make eye contact while we're on stage and just kind of deliver it. Um, and I'm I am happy, I'm so proud of myself and and the guys to report for that wedding that we absolutely nailed it. Like the things that we're struggling with in practice, some timing issues, all came together because everyone just there's like a there's a sense when the lights are on and and it's go time, you just lock in. It's like like athletes, right? They just like have this way of locking in and delivering complete focus. So I know with them I the rehearsal schedule doesn't have to be as rigorous. We were just talking about it today, where I think we got to get together maybe twice before we play this show, and we'll be good. We've been playing these songs for years. Um, now for this other band, it's a lot more kind of intense for me, but I kind of put that on myself. I'm a big rehearser, I love to know exactly what it is I'm doing. I love to make sure that I have it absolutely down so that when we're on stage, we can be free and it can be organic and I can have fun with it up there because I'm not stressing about where where my timing is, I just have it committed to muscle memory. Um, but it does it can be difficult to to balance.

SPEAKER_03

All right, yeah. That sounds really cool, though.

SPEAKER_02

I'm I'm happy for you, dude. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

Um it it is um my an absolute passion of mine that I haven't been really the last couple of years have not been able to kind of uh explore and have a place to practice and have a place to set up the drums, but I have all that now, and so I'm really hoping to get back into uh music a lot more, which is um my way of like it's it's my outlets, my way of being able to just like clean a day off of me or whatever. So it's been really great.

SPEAKER_02

Well, hopefully also, you know, once you get that snowblower back, you'll have even more time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. Then I don't have to watch uh Sam shovel the snow and make sure she's doing it right.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_02

All right, you ready to hear me complain again?

SPEAKER_01

Hell yeah, give it to me, brother.

SPEAKER_02

All right, so I I man. I'm just getting fired up. I haven't even said a word. Uh so uh we had to talk about this again because nobody got to hear me complain about it. And honestly, I'd like to know how few people feel about this. Um but I was at the grocery store, uh, and it's a busy weekend because we're we're gonna get this storm, so people lose their mind. They're like, oh, we need all the cheese puffs. Um but uh I'm in the parking lot, I'm about to pull in, and there's a person in front of me, no signal, nothing, backs in to a parking spot. So, first of all, you pissed me off because you didn't use a signal. You probably wouldn't know how to use the signal properly anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Um because you're a person that backs into a parking spot, right?

SPEAKER_02

And then it takes them like four tries to back into this parking spot. And it's just something that I hate so much. People who back into parking spaces, like why are you doing it? Why are you making me wait for you? All the competent people who back into parking spots, they don't. They just pull into a spot because they're they're like, oh yeah, I can just back, I can back out real quick too, because I know how to back out of things. I know how to use the car in reverse. I I just don't understand what like what your logic is by backing into a parking spot. And why are you doing it in a big in a busy parking lot? Like, what are you doing? I I just pull into a spot, it's really fast, and I guarantee you too, with some practice, you'll be able to back out of that spot pretty quickly, too. And then everybody's like, oh, hey, like, it's just so you can get out of there faster. And it's like, first of all, what are you, a getaway driver? Are you robbing the grocery store? Why do you have to get away so fast?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, slow down Tokyo Drift.

SPEAKER_02

And second of all, it's not that much faster. Because if you're coming out of a parking spot and I'm pulling in, I still have to wait for you to either back out or pull out. It doesn't matter. So I'm still waiting. Like, it's so it doesn't matter. But the fact that I have to now wait twice because of you, because you're backing in and then pulling out really pisses me the fuck off. And I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_01

So I agree. I love this, like, especially at the grocery store, because people will back into a parking spot and then they have their groceries and they struggle getting them into the car as if that's easier.

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Right.

SPEAKER_01

You know what would have been super easy as if you pulled into the spot and then you were able to put your shit in the trunk like a normal person.

SPEAKER_02

I never even thought about this.

SPEAKER_01

This is a whole nother reason why not to do it. Dude, I I used to manage a grocery store. I used to see that kind of nonsense all the time.

SPEAKER_02

Uh let me ask you a question real quick. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

It's the same people that back into the parking spot that don't put their shopping cart in the corral. Oh, I agree. Return your cart. We are not living in East Berlin. Put your cart back.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. I agree. In fact, um I strategically park so that I park, I get out, I pass the cart area. What's it called?

SPEAKER_01

The corral.

SPEAKER_02

The oh corral? What are they? Wild horse? Like if you don't put them in there, they're gonna they're gonna like wander off somewhere.

SPEAKER_01

Please return your cart to the stable.

SPEAKER_02

So um so I park, and then if I get out, I can walk right past it, grab my cart, walk in. When I'm walking out, toss it in there, bring my bags, put it in my car, and I'm out. Real efficient.

SPEAKER_01

Perfectly executed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Perfect execution.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I just don't get it. But let me ask you a question. Um, since we're talking about grocery stores real quick, um, do the people who are bagging groceries or do they go through any training at all?

SPEAKER_01

So at Wegmans, we go through extensive training on how to bag properly. Yes, most other grocery stores skip this step.

SPEAKER_02

What I do is I arrange all my food products how I want them bagged. And if you even notice what I'm doing, there's spaces, there's spacing between all the things. So you've got this little cell of products over here, and then behind it, you got another cell, and then another, and so on. It doesn't matter. Things all the way in the back will end up in the front, but the stuff in the front, it's all it's just what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

No, so like at a Wagmans, we tra we we train for literally four days, four eight-hour days on just bagging.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like that's over, Kill.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, but the for them for the most part, the people that you're hiring for that job are like 15-year-olds and they haven't experienced grocery shopping yet, right? So they understand this and then they spend time on it, which is smart because it's the small details that matter, right? So we we would like you know go through and you have your eggs and it's the first thing in the line. Well, they're crushable, and with that's how we would determine, right? Can we crush this thing? So you scan those eggs, you put them in the on the thing at the table on the back behind you. You work through your other things. Maybe we got some uh canned goods in there, we got some produce. The canned goods go together, right? And then the eggs, where there's a nice base foundation in that bag, but eggs can go on top, and then you let that customer know, hey, the eggs are on top in this bag. We put that in the cart, right? You get your you get your bags of chips, right? And those go in a bag together because they're crushable, and then you maybe you got a loaf of bread we've already scanned, that goes on top, hey, bread's on top in this one. Like that, that's the way to do it. Now we want to keep meats together. So if we got beef, we want to keep beef together in one bag, and then we can ask the customer, do you mind if I put the chicken in this bag also? Because there's a food safety concern. So we need to ask, and if they're okay with it, great. We put that in the same bag with it, they were cool with it, and that's how that's how you do it. Cold items should try to stay together as much as possible, and then the can go it should all be organized, and that's the way you do it. They even the level of detail and how you give change back to a customer matters. So they pay with cash, and do you ever notice this? Some places that you go, they'll be like, uh, here's all your bills, and then they put the change on top of it, right? You ever go to a place where they do that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

That's the that's the wrong way.

SPEAKER_03

It's not the way.

SPEAKER_01

It's the wrong way. So it should be your loose change first because uh a customer can hold on to the loose change. When it's balancing on the bills, they have to struggle just that much more to make sure they dump it into their thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, struggle.

SPEAKER_01

It is such it seems like it's such a stupid detail, but it matters. When you give that the loose change first, they can now grip it with most of their hand and then still take the bills. And it matters a ton.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm sure those park people really struggle holding on to their change, idiots.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're using fucking Bitcoin and Dogecoin to pay for the groceries. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um well, we've got like three minutes. All right. Three.

SPEAKER_01

That's it. All right. Can I can I give you my last sip? This won't take long.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, do it. I I 50 Cent will be there next week.

SPEAKER_01

Rock and roll. We'll talk about 50 Cent next week. Make sure you tune in. Uh why can't I make a left on red if it's clear? This bothers the shit out of me when I'm driving. Why like why if you go to a four-way stop, okay, not even four-way stop. Think you got a busy thoroughfare coming perpendicular to your position.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And you got the stop sign, they have the right of way. If it's clear, you can make a left. Now, if I'm at a four-way intersection, same rules, and I'm at a red light, and there's nobody there. Why can't I make a left on red?

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. It's because people it's because people are idiots. And they can't even mat people are idiots. Keep people can't manage a two-way stop, let alone a four-way stop. Now you want to be like, oh, can we turn left on red? Oh man, it can't happen.

SPEAKER_01

I just don't get it. I don't understand. Like, I'm at this intersection. It's not even like a it's not even like a two-lane or a three-lane, god forbid. It's just a normal intersection.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I can't do it.

SPEAKER_01

It's there's nobody here. I should be able to turn left. It's unbelievable to me. And another thing that uh no one's talking about is here in Buffalo, we got a ton. You know the left arrow when it turns green, you get to turn.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, if you don't get the arrow and you just get the green light, you just gotta wait for the traffic and then you turn. But what we have now is blinking yellow arrows, and it's very confusing.

SPEAKER_02

That would be confusing.

SPEAKER_01

I hate it. They installed it with no warning. I should have gotten a letter in the mail letting me know that the rules of the road have changed, and they're it's completely different. So I get up to this light, and it with it's at the corner right by our house. I think you've experienced this light, by the way. And it's a blinking yellow, and I'm like, this is so stupid. This is a waste of electricity. And why we're dealing with this.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, why are we doing a blinking yellow? That's very confusing. It just feels to me like you're telling me to turn really slowly and not look for traffic.

SPEAKER_01

100%. I've seen people turn, start their turn, and then have to jam on the brakes because there's traffic coming because they don't know what the hell it means.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because no matter what, a yellow mean or an arrow means go this way, unless it's red. So like you're not telling me, like you're telling me you're sending me mixed emotions by making it yellow, blinking, and an arrow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you're sending me more mixed signals than a girl at the middle school dance. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

I don't, I don't.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man. Well, this was a good time, man.

SPEAKER_01

I had a great time. Yeah, this was awesome. I have I always have a great time with you, bro.

SPEAKER_02

I know, you're so positive.

SPEAKER_01

I love being positive. You can't keep me down.

SPEAKER_03

No. Oh. Oh man. All right, dude.

SPEAKER_02

Um I guess that's it. I'm kind of disappointed it's over.

SPEAKER_01

Me too. But you know what? That just means we have more to talk about next week.

SPEAKER_02

I know. I am I I am really excited next week to talk about 50 Cent and how petty he is and how much I love it. And I love it. If I could choose any celebrity be to be best friends with, it would be him because it would allow me to be petty too.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yeah, love it. I can't wait, man.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, we'll talk about it. Um I guess that's it.

SPEAKER_03

That's it, guys. Woogie boogie. Goodbye, everyone. Woogie boogie.