EP006 | Super Bowl Predictions, VA Regrets & Bad Attitudes

Jeff gets his snowblower back just in time for the snow to disappear, which tells you everything you need to know.

This episode includes Jeff’s confidence in the Bills, Erik regretting the VA yet again, a wildly unqualified discussion about gerrymandering, the return of Zoology for Morons, social media anxiety, cyclists in traffic, and the usual collection of complaints with no practical solutions.

2 Guys No Credentials — same bad attitudes, same terrible takes.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Two Guys No Credentials.

SPEAKER_02 0:02

We're two completely unqualified people talk about nothing. And everything. Like we know what we're doing. Spoiler, we don't. Yeah. Um I I remember when I was doing when I was working up in headquarters in the Marine Corps, I got so many emails. And I'm like I was taught in the Marine Corps, like you don't answer an email with an email. You go over and you talk to them face to face. So I like now I'm like I'm still the same way. I don't want to send you a memo back. I'm gonna go come talk to you, but um you just you have like with the number of things that are going on, I just have to send an email or a memo back.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Uh like it is so interesting that that's your point. First of all, I'm Eric. I was in the headquarters of the Marine Corps. Um, secondly secondly, uh it's so funny that they taught you to answer an email by going talking face to face. Although I do think like if someone's coming to you with a concern, hell yeah, go and talk to that person, let them know, hey, I got your email, let's talk about this and let's like get into it. Uh I feel like in my job, we lose track of so many things because there's no paper trail. And like sometimes those projects will last months, and because I went to talk to that person a few times, the people other people involved have no idea what's going on, and that causes a lot of issues, so that's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Oh, well, so I the reason was so I was in the squadron I was a part of was the logistics squadron. So, like, yeah, um, let's say we had an F-18 squadron going somewhere um to go drop bombs on some people or something. Um they still needed they needed equipment, they needed a support, they needed support, they needed people. Um, and a lot of times when they're emailing you, they have an issue that they need. So instead of going back and forth in an email, like I'd I'd get in my car or I'd just walk across base and go see that person and say, All right, what do you need?

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Um you can accomplish so much more by talking it out in person or like on the phone.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Yeah, it was so it was so much, it's so much better. Um, and I know it it annoyed some people because you know it we're the nerdy side of the Marine Corps, so they're like, Yeah, I just want to be behind my computer. And it's like, okay, Lieutenant, but I'm here now, so why don't you just talk to the sergeant? All right, just shut the fuck up and tell me what you need.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

I've never heard lieutenant be such an insult before.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Well, it is. I like they've been in the Marine Corps for a year, they're in charge of 90 people, they don't want to be. All they want to do is fly, but you can't fly all the time, so you have to have a job. Yeah. And it's like, just just shut the fuck up and let me tell you what you're gonna do so you can go fly. I'll make your life easier. Nice. Yeah, yeah. I want you to manage my life. They they don't they don't care. All they want to do, they just want to fly. Yeah, they don't care about anything else, they don't want to be bothered with doing it. They just have to.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Yeah. And one of my best friends is uh in the Air Force, and he might be having to go uh to Iraq in a couple weeks. He's like literally hour by hour they're getting updates, he might have to go. So we're kind of sitting by the phone waiting to see if he's getting deployed or not. It's a little bit little bit scary because I never really had a close friend that got deployed before, or like really anybody that I like know closely. Um so I don't know. I don't know how to feel about it.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

He's in the Air Force?

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Oh, so they're having trouble getting coffee in Iran then. That's what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

Uh yeah, they there's for believe it or not, there's not enough oat milk over there. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Yeah. I mean, the Air Force is okay. The Navy has the best pilots. It's kind of weird being called the Air Force when you're second best, but yeah, they also have the best uh seamen. They do have good seamen, let me tell you.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Yeah. The people that work on the ships are good, are pretty good too.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

Oh yes, yeah. That one's called the slow burn. I thought it was something. I thought you were talking about something else. Yeah. Um moving on. Yeah. Um, military stuff. Uh I uh so I let's just get into it, cuz actually, you know what? Um oh man, I'm all over. Oh, I wanted to do some updates real fast. Okay. Um a long time ago we were talking about Maroon 5 and we were wondering what the band's name was. It was Kara's Flowers. What? Yeah, that was Maroon 5's name before they were Maroon 5.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

I don't even really like the name Maroon 5, but it's way better than Kara's flowers. I know. They're both dumb. Especially because there were songs about Jane. Who the fuck is Kara, dumb bitch? She's the one who brought the flowers.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

To whom? Not Jane.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Adam's definitely not Jane.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Yeah, yeah. Uh Adam Levine? Is that what who is that the right person?

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Yeah.

unknown 5:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Adam Levine's cousin.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

I just know I don't like Rune Five. I don't know anything about. I used to work for a man who claimed that Adam Levine was a distant cousin. He was full of shit.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Just a nice not non-fac a non a not a not fact? A non-fact?

SPEAKER_01 5:57

I believe we call that a lie. Oh, that's the word. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Yeah, no. Um, if there's one thing I know about Adam Levine, is he has no cousins, so definitely not true. Um how do you know that? You know, we we text. Oh uh uh so Maroon 5. There's like I don't like know a ton of Maroon Five. I know like as soon as they kind of went more pop is when I kind of lost that, but like we talked about that before. If someone slapped a $12 million contract in front of me and said make shitty music, you bet your ass I'd do it. Um, but that Songs About Jane album I thought was awesome. Like that was when it was still like rock and roll, and it had it was like reminiscent of 90s rock, which I think you like a lot too. Uh but the song Harder to Breathe on that album goes hard. No one talks about that. That song is awesome. I have no idea what you you're talking about. Yeah, dude. We used to play that when you were playing uh like cover shows. We used to play that song. We would do this medley that was like Britney Spears uh oh uh yeah, Britney Spears into uh larger than life, into it's gonna be me, into I Don't Wanna Be. It was like 15 minutes long, but it was all in the same like era. So like people people really dig that, and then we would um we hit harder to breathe in there at some point, and man, and I by the time I got to that, like it's a 15-minute long song, but like because it's different songs, people keep interested. And bars used to love that because this music would never stop, it's as close to a DJ as they could get. And man, I when we got to the harder to breathe, it's like the drums are what drive that song, so I was always fired up getting after it. Nice, just keep jazzed up. I'm a big fan of the mashup. Yeah, why not, right? No one really wants to hear a whole song. That's like my biggest complaint about like as a person that plays in bands. My biggest complaint about bands like at a bar is like you play a whole song and you stop, and then there's three minutes of nothing, and then you play the next song. Um, so we always thought about that and we're like, we could combine songs and they're in the same key. And then you might as well combine songs that are in like the same uh like era, you know, that makes sense together. So we would try to do that all the time.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

I like that. I I love that. Yeah. Um, I have another update. Um, I'm taking credit for something that isn't mine, and um, I've been meaning to do this like uh since we did the podcast in Canada iguana. Um, but I keep forgetting. Um my my good friend Nicole introduced me to Zoology for Morons. I did come up with the name, but she introduced me to the game. So oh, the game was called Zoology for Morons. Well, that's what I named it. Got it. Well loving it Yeah, she introduced me to the pick an animal in the four categories.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Well, I I think give credit where credit's due. Um, it was Nicole, right? Yeah. Thank you so much, Nicole, for that awesome content. We play this game all the time now, especially in my house. Uh so this is something I plan on sharing with friends. So I appreciate it, Nicole. And for those that don't know what we're talking about, check out our previous episodes on our YouTube page and go uh go watch that experience because it is it's something.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

It is something.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

There's one thing I know is that Donald absolutely agrees that horses typically have four legs.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Yes, horses have four legs.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

Dude, I watching that back, editing the film together, that I laughed so hard because Donald's like like sneaky funny. Like he's oh, I love him so much. But like he'll he'll say stuff and like it kind of like most people will fly under the radar, but man, that dude is hilarious and awesome.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

So funny. Yeah, because uh his sincerity is funny, yeah. And uh it just yeah, it just slips under the radar and it just makes you laugh. He's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

And you know what? He's so thoughtful too.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

He is because he he wanted to really affirm the fact that Tino was right and horses do have four legs, and like that was that was that was good of him.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Yeah. That's such a good dude. I love the shit out of that guy. Donald, if you ever watch this, we love you. We love you, Donnie.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Um, and then I've got one more update. Um, ban the jams, the movement. It's gaining traction, and we need everybody's help. Um, grocery stores are next. No more pajamas in the grocery store. I've had it.

SPEAKER_04 10:45

I don't want to anymore.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Ban the jams, guys. Dude, we we're making progress. There should be no pajamas in public ever. Ever. Pajamas are for your home only. And I would extend it to your property, but like if you're going out to get the mail in the morning, I guess I'll allow it. I don't want it, but like if I have to concede something, I'll concede that. That's where you're allowed to wear jammies. I disagree. You're not Tony Soprano.

SPEAKER_02 11:18

Put on some fucking pants. What if you are Tony Soprano? Then do whatever you want. You're Tony Soprano. Hell yeah. So those are my updates today.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

All right, dude, I love it. So this is some pretty good updates. I'm glad that you brought up the zoology for morons. It's really important we give credit words too. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Um, I only have one update today. My update is that for the first time since November, Buffalo does not have any snow on the ground. I want you to think about how long ago November was. The best part about this is I just got my snowblower back. And we ain't gonna need it until November next year. So that's my update.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Well, just don't let don't don't break it again. I guess.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Yeah, I kept blaming Sam. It wasn't her fault. The entire mechanism that holds the entire machine together backed out of it at some point. So she just happened to be the one that was holding the machine when it happened. Uh so all that's been repaired, all that's been fixed up, and it shouldn't ever happen again. I was reassured by a guy named Tony. He seems very trustworthy. And uh, yeah, well, you know, we'll see what next year holds.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Hopefully I don't have to use it again. I'm glad you have a useless hunk of metal for the next nine months that's just gonna take up space in your shed.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm am I gonna perform an oil change on that bitch? No, I am not. So we'll see. We'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

All right.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

I'm gonna have every intention of taking care of this thing, but I will never actually do it.

SPEAKER_02 13:21

Okay. I I wouldn't even know where to start, so at least you've thought about it.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Same zies. I don't know where to start either. Uh I would look into it, but I have to watch TV. I have to watch TV.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

All right. That's good. Yeah. All right. Well, uh hopefully you won't regret all that TV watching and uh, you know, not taking care of your snowblower. There is one thing I can assure you of, sir.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

I will not regret it.

unknown 13:55

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

And um, that's good because you don't have a regret this week anyway.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

So I really feel bad about I I feel bad about this segment because I very rarely have regrets about anything. I love the shit that happens in my life. I find the positives in it, and it's very difficult for me to find something like, man, I I really regretted doing this. Outside of butternut squash soup. I really uh it's hard for me, but that's okay. Like, you know, like we can talk about the things that we liked about our week too.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Got it. I gotta find another co-host. You're too positive for me. You can't give me that one too positive. Um, well, we both know that the weekly regret is just an excuse for me to complain. So that's my favorite part about this segment. Yeah. So, like today, for instance, I regret ever going to the VA ever. Every time I've been to the VA, it's a regret for me. There's never been like I'm I never walk out of there like, man, I'm so grateful for the VA. And I should be, because I mean, they give me free healthcare. Um, but the um today I went to the VA and I travel through this gigantic building, get on an elevator, and go to the fourth floor. There's a man screaming. I don't know what he's screaming about, but it sounds a little racist. And I'm I like at first I'm confused. I'm like, why what's happening right now? Because like what when you're on an elevator, you're you get this calmness, you know? You're going, you're just going up, doors are closed, there's nobody in there with me, so that's great. I don't want to be around anybody. So I'm at peace for like three seconds while I travel to the fourth floor. But the door's open, and before I can see anything, I just hear a man yelling. And he's definitely being racist, and maybe like I don't know, like uh yeah, racist is good. He's he's yelling about he's he's yelling about Muslims, and I have no idea what's it's very incoherent, but I know this man's not very happy about Muslims, and I'm like, oh my god. Um all right, we need to we need to stop this, but obviously he's got some sort of issue going on. Um and but I get off the like the elevator I'm on, there's a set of four. There's two here, and then across the hallway, there's two. I'm in the last one, right? So I get I can't get by them. Oh no. There's like four people trying to talk this racist man down, and I I'm just like, all right, I'll just stand here and enjoy the conversation, I guess. Watch the show. Yeah. So um, so fine finally I'm like, okay, I can't stand here forever. So I like do this, you know, and just kind of sneak by. Yeah. Did you say, did you go, oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

unknown 17:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

I tried to say excuse me, but nothing came out except for noises. Exactly. So I'm already like, okay, well, it can only get better from this, right? So I get to the um I get to the counter, like the receptionist, and she doesn't even look at me. And uh, she's like looking down at the screen, like doing something, and she's like, What's your last name? And I'm like, hi. It's this, you know, I tell her my last name, and uh she's like, What what's your last four? And um I tell her my last four, and it's a it's in a series, it's like one, two, three, four. Right? So she looks up and she's like, That's not your last four. And I'm like, I don't know what I did to you. Yeah, first of all, first of all, Joyce, how do you know? Yeah, but I was like, yeah, yes, that's my last four. It's like nobody has last four like that. I'm like, I do. I I didn't bring my social security card, but I definitely my that's my last four. I I'm not making this up. I wouldn't be I want to see my doctor.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Like I'm Are you sure she was Are you sure she was asking you last four of your social or she asking you like the last four meals you had?

SPEAKER_02 18:47

Well, it was a GI appointment, so it maybe I misunderstood her. So yeah, maybe so um uh she it's just she's just so rude and talking to me like she's really angry with me, like she's known me for years. Um so finally we get it all settled. I sit down um and the nurse comes over to take my vitals, and she is so mean too. And I'm like, like, what's happening on this floor? Like, why are you all so angry? I didn't do anything to you. Um so I she puts the blood pressure cuff on my left arm, right? So I give her this finger, right? So she could do put the pulse ox on it. She's like, no, it's the other finger, and um, and I'm really confused because I know a few things. And I was like, no, you want to put it on this one, and she's like, no, the other finger. And I was like, but if you put it on this one, once the blood pressure cuff starts filling, you're not gonna get a good reading. And she's like, Oh, yeah, oh sweetie, you're right, and like all of a sudden turned into a really like a really nice person and puts it on my finger, gets my vitals, and we move on. So go in, finally see my doctor, tell her what's going on, all this stuff. And she says something very surprising to me. She said, Okay, um, I'm gonna go talk to my team and we're gonna discuss what we're gonna do about this today.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

What?

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Uh so I'm like, I so I immediately look at her jacket that she's wearing because it's got her name and it says MD afterwards. So I'm like, okay, I am talking to a doctor. Why do you need to go discuss this with a team? Yeah, it's pretty scary. Yeah. Uh so she goes out, she's gone for about 15 minutes, and I'm like like starting to have like a little like anxiety attack. Like, what the fuck? Like, yeah, I didn't think this was this serious. She comes in and she comes in with a very old doctor, very old, um, very strange looking face, and he's like, All right, so Dr. So-and-so just told me all about what's going on, and he starts telling telling me my history, but he's got the timeline all wrong.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

And he's like, Well, this started two years ago, and I'm like, Nope, nope, not two years ago. And then do you remember when I got food poisoning?

SPEAKER_04 21:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

Uh last January? Yeah. And he's like, Well, did this happen three years ago when you had food poisoning? And I was like, Well, that was no, that was last year in January. So, like, like a year and three months. And he's like, No, that was that was over two years ago, and I'm like No, I was there. So he keeps on doing it though. So finally I just start agreeing with him. I'm like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 17 years ago this started. When I was in high school, this was a problem in high school. Yeah. I was a teenager. And you were still 80. Yeah, exactly. So I'm like, all right, so why did she have to go talk to the team? And also, why is she why did she have to talk to this man who obviously doesn't know anything about what's happening to me? Um, but anyway, we came up with a plan. I was a I was I wasn't happy after the fact. Like I didn't have a good experience, but I went home and I was happy to be home.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

But that's yeah, well I'm glad you're happy to be home. This shit only happens to you, man. I do have a few questions.

SPEAKER_04 22:57

All right.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

Uh was this like a was this first doctor? Like, was she training?

SPEAKER_02 23:03

I don't know. It said MD.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

I've I have no idea. The second guy, it wasn't Dr. Seuss, was it? No, I would have been so happy if it was Dr.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Seuss. He's just rhyming the whole time. Uh I know if I was a little smarter, I'd do a rhyme right now, but I can't do that kind of stuff. No, we're not MM.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

No, that sounds like a horrible experience. It almost feels like a $20 copay would be worth it.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

You're probably right.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Well, is that like an option? Do you like get health insurance through through work? You just don't take it because you're military?

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Yeah, I can get health insurance through work. It's just like uh this is free. This is free. But I think I think now, like at my age, uh maybe some better health insurance might be appropriate. Like in my 30s, you're like, you're young, who cares? Yeah. Oh, I didn't, I meant I forgot to mention this. The original doctor, um, she was wearing a surgical mask the entire time, um, which kind of freaked me out. I'm like, what's wrong with you? Why are you wearing this? Do you wear this all the time? Are you sick? Because if you're sick, probably sick. Yeah, but if you're sick, like I don't want you wearing, I want you to stay home. Don't wear a mask. Yeah. That's how I feel. Tell me if you're sick, tell me to wear a mask. Like, you wearing the mask isn't doing anything for me because you're breathing out the sides. Like it's still going in the air. Like, the mask will help me.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

So this is interesting. Uh most other cultures, like especially Asian cultures, they wear the mask to prevent it, right? It's like to if you're the sick person, you wear the mask because uh your water droplets don't go as far. Maybe so like the mask thing, even the mask mandates, right? It wasn't to prevent you breathing in COVID, it was to prevent you push but breathing it out. See, that doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, I know it still comes out the sides, but it's about distance, right? Because like you're if we know this in Buffalo, like you go outside in the cold, your breath can travel 10, 12 feet sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

My favorite part about this is like you live in Buffalo, it's not cold anywhere else. No, it's only here.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Yeah, everywhere else is the south, and the south is warm.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Here's the way I look at it, though. So I'm I'm sick. I wear a mask and I sneeze. It's all getting pushed out the back and going into the atmosphere anyway.

SPEAKER_04 25:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Uh so I think if you're sick, you tell me I wear a mask, that's more protection for me.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Only it's if it's an N95 mask.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

I think, well, no, this is why I think because I don't think the other the surgical mask is doing a goddamn thing. So I think the surgical mask, if it will help me more than you wearing it. You're you're correct. The N95 is the way to go. Oh yeah. It's the Rolls-Royce of masks. Well, no, the Rolls-Royce is the um the ghost the ghost face mask? That's oh, that's a good point.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Yeah, yeah. That's the mask you want to wear. Yeah, I guess the N95 is like the El Camino of cars. The El Camino. Yeah, the El Camino is the Cadillac of cars. Oh, alright. So what's the Cadillac?

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Dog shit. Tell that to Tony Soprano and his family.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Yeah, the the the Cadillac is like a 2008 Corolla. Those Italians, they like their Cadillacs. They do like their Cadillacs. We had one growing up. My grandpa, a very Italian fellow over here. So my grandpa uh he got he got sick like when I was born, then uh my dad took his Cadillac and it was like a 90-something Cadillac, and I don't even really remember the model, but it was it seemed like it was huge. Like it has still had like the big trunk and like it looked like a boat. Was awesome. I remember it had a compartment. It had a compartment behind the back seat, and for some reason, when I was like four, I would put rocks in it.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

You you mean the ashtray?

SPEAKER_01 27:52

No. No. No, there was this weird like storage compartment on the back dash. Oh. I don't know why it was there. It's still when I think about it, even to this day, it makes no sense that that's there. Uh, but I would put rocks in it. Because those are my rocks.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Any rocks or like special rocks? So well, to me they were special rocks. They were special, yeah. What is that? I used to collect rocks too. Rocks are fucking awesome. Are they?

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Yes. My mother had a pet rock. That's moving on. All right.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

All right. So um listen, I wanted to talk about a ton of things today.

SPEAKER_04 28:39

Um, but uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

Take a take a look at what we got on the schedule here and and just pick one.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Uh uninformed takes here. Oh, wait, I want to hear yours. Yes. What okay? So this so this is something that I've been thinking about, and it just was recently brought to my attention when the Super Bowl is. For our viewers, for our viewer that doesn't know, my birthday is on February 14th. Yes, Valentine's Day. It's the worst birthday of all time. We'll talk about that another episode.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

No, it's because you're full of love.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Thanks, baby. Uh, the the Super Bowl this year will be played on February 14th. Wow. Yes, I know. And I think we've made a decent moves already on the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills will win the Super Bowl this year on my birthday, and I am not sure I will live to see the next day.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Um, wow. All right. So here's the thing. All right, so we all know that the NFL is scripted. Yeah. So what we need to do is get online, get all of our followers here, and really push. We need a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl win on Valentine's Day for your birthday.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

Dude.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Because we need the the the fat cats and the NFL offices to hear this and really and write it into the script.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Yeah. I feel like I feel like there's got to be a hacker that can go find the script and like download it and to throw everyone off the scent, we'll name the script something different, like the Epstein Files or something. And then we can rewrite the script. Uh, but man, now I will say the Bills just went out and got DJ Moore. I don't like what they paid for him with. Like, they'll give a second round pick for DJ Moore, and I still feel like he's a number two receiver. But then I go back and think about it. Although the Bills didn't look amazing uh on offense this year, still the top three most efficient offense in the league. Yeah, and you you barely had a number three receiver. And we barely had a number three receiver. He's a bona fide number two. There's a bunch of people talking about how he's like the number one receiver the Bills were looking for. I'm like, none of that's true. But that was just like a few days ago, and the the legal tampering period just started yesterday. So I'm wondering like what this offseason might continue to look like. Um, I think as far as wide receiver is concerned, I kind of put it this way the offense definitely got better when we got Brandon Cooks last year, but DJ Moore is definitely an upgrade from Brandon Cooks. So I feel pretty good about the state of the offense, but that wasn't our problem last year. It was defense. So I'm wondering what moves they're gonna make. And they just got rid of Taryn Johnson, who's an absolute stud. Thank you for everything, Taryn. Uh, they're really gonna start to revamp things. So we'll see how it looks. If they can address the problems on defense, and they're going to a 3-4 defense now, so we'll see how that kind of plays out if they're able to make that shift. But if they can, if they can start shutting teams down a little bit in the postseason, there should be no problem with us getting to a Super Bowl. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

We should have been twice already. I uh I gotta think about this. I don't know. I don't I don't know. I don't understand the state of the NFL right now. Um, I don't understand the state of the Steelers, uh, to be honest with you. I I heard they're talking about bringing Dan Marino back. Um and seeing if he they'll get him to play for him. Uh I I really don't know. I don't I I would love for Josh Allen to win one because I think Josh Allen is um I think he's a top I want to say top 20 quarterback. Um maybe top 10.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

What do you what do you mean like of all time?

SPEAKER_02 32:59

Yeah. But he he needs he needs that ring.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

You need the ring to make it legit, right? Absolutely. Like Eli Manning is thought of as a great quarterback. The guy lost exactly as many games as he won. He really was just he was the he's the definition of mediocre, but he won two Super Bowls, right? So he's gonna go to the Hall of Fame. And it it just it would be surprising to Josh Allen. I know I'm a homer and that's what like everyone's gonna call me about this, but the dude is a physical specimen that his size, the way that he can move, is like I've never seen any like anyone like that to like lead for a few years leading the league in yards for a QB rushing is kind of amazing at a guy his size. Um, and the dude is like he never misses a game. He plays through injuries, but when you're that durable, you can. Um, I don't know, man. I right I I think his like arm talent, the way that he went from like terrible completion percentage and like accuracy his first year to being one of the most accurate quarterbacks, not in the league, but ever, is kind of amazing. And to watch some of these throws on the run, what you know what's really crazy is watching like a football game, a Bills game at one, and then flicking on the next game at four, and then watching the difference. It just seems like like Kirk Cousins will throw that ball, and he's not like a terrible quarterback, he's not good either, but like that ball hangs up in the air, what seems like forever, because Josh is out there throwing fucking piss missiles all the time, and we just get so used to it. A piss missile, yeah. Wow, that is that that's actually the industry term.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Um, yeah, I think well, here's the here's my thought though on this durability thing. Um, he's got one year of play like this left in him. I I don't think you see Josh Allen play another year of backyard football.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Yeah, you might be right about this because Brett Favre is the example, right? At some point, that backyard football didn't work out.

SPEAKER_04 35:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:10

Well, look at look at look at Ben. But I mean, Ben, Ben, I mean, his his passing, I think, in his last four or five years, um, I mean, the Steelers were shit, but his passing, I think, I don't think I saw him pass better. Um, I think I think in his um, I can't remember. It's been it's been so long, and I don't pay attention to this stuff, but I think it was the like three years before he retired, he had those two like 400 yard games.

SPEAKER_04 35:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Something like that, back to back. Um I can't remember. That's why I have no credentials. Um, but I think I don't think he gets I don't think Josh Allen gets to play his game. It's gotta evolve after this year. I don't think he gets to play like that anymore.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

I think you're 100% right. That's a great that's a great observation. Um, and like just like Ben, he kind of morphed from a mobile quarterback into uh someone who is a much more of a pocket passer, and he was very effective, but it kind of makes sense, right? At that point in your career, Josh is entering year nine, and that would have been Ben's year 10. At some point, you do start to make the shift with the all the experiences, how many snaps you've seen that you can develop into that pocket passer and still be effective. Um what annoys me, like the 13 seconds game that year, that was our Super Bowl year. That should have gotten us to the Super Bowl if they could have made one stop at the end, or if Brian Dable wasn't such a chooch in the third quarter to run single terry up the middle for minus three yards instead of stomping on the Chiefs' throats, I will die on that hill. But uh like we go to the Super Bowl that year, Josh can still play his game. You're absolutely right. The biggest threat that we have on offense is his mobility. That he's gonna turn 30 this year, and the mobility is gonna go away. So what are you gonna do then? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

You know what though? I I'm gonna say this right now for everybody to hear. Josh Allen better than um Jamal Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

Lamar Jackson?

SPEAKER_02 37:21

Jamal Jackson. That that is how much you know football. That's so funny. Lamar Jackson. No, I know Lamar. I'm a Steelers fan. I don't know why I said Jamal. Who's Jamal Jackson? Is that somebody? Um it's gotta be like a person.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

There well, uh there probably is. Uh man, it's because like it does it does sound familiar, but I think you're also combining Jamal Lewis and like Lamar Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

I don't know, but I know Lamar Jackson. But say say the whole thing again so we can clip it. Okay. So I'm just gonna say this right now. Josh Allen is better than Lamar Jackson. You you heard it here, folks. You heard it. Lamar Jackson is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL in years.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Absolutely. You know, you know how I can prove it? Do you know the defensive strategy to beat Lamar Jackson? Let him run. No, you make him throw. Oh, well. You make him throw the ball, then you will win that game. Which is like, you know, the hallmark of a great quarterback. You make him throw the ball, you'll win the game. And I'm sorry, Ravens fan. There is not like he's not as he's an unbelievable athlete. He's actually a super good dude. Like, and I will tell I'll I'll give him like all the credit in the world for all that. But when when your quarterback, when his weakness is throwing the ball, right? That's kind of what they do.

SPEAKER_02 38:59

So uh uh I'm still laughing at myself for saying Jamal. Uh so Kranz is uh he's a a Ravens fan, and I tell him we have this argument all the time, and I tell him all the time, you do not win with a quarterback running on the ground, you don't win the Super Bowl that way. And it's proven over and over. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Yeah. Uh even go back to like um uh Colin Kaepernick. That was his that was how they got to the Super Bowl. It was like there there was like Michael Vick, and then we got rid of we got away from the running quarterback for a long time. Colin Kaepernick comes into the league and he's running for like you know 90 yards a game, and they got all the way to the Super Bowl, but they got to the Super Bowl and like they figured it out. That doesn't when you got two weeks of film to watch on someone, you figure out how to keep contained, it's over. Where Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have been a little bit different is like their ability to buy time in the pocket. The difference is Josh Allen makes those throws, Lamar will either give up on them, get sacked. Like we've we've stifled the Ravens in the playoffs every year we've played them, and he just he just doesn't have it. Now, you can also say Josh doesn't have it, and you'd be right about that, because we get to the playoffs and sometimes he plays poorly, like against the Broncos. He had a terrible game. The problem with the Bills at that time, though, is there is if Josh does have a bad game, there's nobody to help this guy out. And so hopefully now that'll get the guy.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

Yeah, I was just about to say the same thing. Like, it's I think it's hard, even for a great player like that, like the greats, to carry a team like with sheer will uh and talent. Like you have to have people around you um to help you when you are having a bad game. Um there's just nobody there, and I like I hate to say it. Like, I like I know these guys are all professional football players and they're good at what they do, but in that system, maybe they're not good at what they do, or they're just not good at what they do and you know should pack it up. I have no I I have no idea. I'm not I don't know football that well, I just like watching it. Um but yeah, yeah, it's hard to carry a team like that.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Yeah, man. And I have so my the last thing I'll say about this and we'll move on. Uh my last game at High Mark Stadium, um, which we still call the Ralph because Ralph Wilson was the owner of the NFL, or sorry, the owner of uh the Buffalo Bills, who by the way, where there would be no NFL without Ralph Wilson. He was instrumental in brokering the deal between the AFL and the NFL at the time to combine both leagues uh to come together. A lot of people don't know that. That like the owner of the Buffalo Bills, the the founder of the Buffalo Bills um brokered that deal to make the NFL what it is today. So didn't know that. My my the it's been it's been the same stadium since then. Uh it's why we're building a new one because it really is bad. Uh my last game in in that stadium that I got to see live uh was Bills Bucks. Um awesome game. Yeah, those are the biggest. Oh man, they they were crushing us in the first half. And then you like I remember watching the sideline and I'm looking at Josh, and I'm out all the way up in the 300s. Uh you can see Josh down there on the sideline. You see him on the bench, and he's looking at the film, and he puts the tablet down, and he just like looks up slowly. And you I could see it happen. He put the cape on, and you watch this guy go nuts for the whole second half. Dude, it was awesome. But it was literally his sheer will that won them that game, and he was unbelievable. For that to be my last game at that stadium was electric. Then we, you know, after the game we hit back to the tailgate, we lit a fire on the ground because that's what you do there, and uh, we uh had a we had a great evening. That's great. Don't remember, yeah, that's don't remember much after that.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

That's a um that's a nice memory to have.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

Oh, it's awesome. Yeah, man. I'm so lucky. Bill's games are the the absolute best, especially the experience of it. The tailgate before uh game starts at one. I'm at the lot 7:30. Let's go, let's get the grills fired up. I'm gonna make some breakfast sandwiches for everyone. We're gonna have sausage right before we go out to the game. Uh, in the in the midst of all of that, we're playing games, we're drinking beers. It's just it's an unbelievable day. You gotta come to a game in a new stadium, bud.

SPEAKER_02 43:38

Uh, here's the thing. So I agree with you completely that it must be pretty amazing to be around to just get to see the bills play. Um, but my only issue is all the people from Buffalo.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

And believe you me, at a Bills. Game, there are so many people from Buffalo.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

I know that's so weird, but I just uh Buffalo.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

All right, let's get into your stuff.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

I got so we're gonna have to split this up because it's a really long conversation. We really want to be on time today. Um so I I this is what I'll I'm gonna talk, I want to talk to you about. So there's been a lot of talk in the news about gerrymandering and how it's cheating. The Republicans are treat cheating by trying to increase their their number of house seats and this and that. And then, you know, on the other side, the pendulum swings, Democrats in West Virginia or or Virginia are are doing the same thing. And I just want to know how you feel about this because uh some of it is legal, right? You know, what they did in Texas, it it's legal what they're doing. Um, but is it right? Is it moral? Um Right. You know, and because here's the thing. So like in Massachusetts, um there is no Republican representation whatsoever. But I mean, there's 37% or something like that, um voted for Donald Trump, you know. Um, and I'm not that that's not all Republicans. I'm sure it's uh there's some independents in there, there may be some crazy Democrats. Um but there is a large minority of people that are not being represented in the House because of the way the districts are drawn, um, or because of the way uh, because I mean we we know uh the the cities are blue and very concentrated, and then you've got normally the the people who are vote Republican, they're spread out in like rural kind of areas, the suburbs, that sort of thing. Um, so that might be it. It might not all just be the way the districts are drawn. Um, but you've got a huge minority of the state, and this is happening in all the states, um you know, red and blue, that aren't being represented properly. And I think instead of having this back and forth every 10 years where we're gonna redistrict because we need more house seats, uh, we we need to solve it. So I figure we should solve it right now.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

Yeah, because they'll listen to us, obviously. Yeah. It's so weird, no one comes to us for the answers.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Hey, I I say it all the time. If I was king of the world, the world would be a much better place.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Yeah. Where people would respect wood, by the way. Um what's interesting about this is like um, you know, the focus is a lot on Texas because of what they're trying to do in Texas, but this comes up into New York all the time. New York is a blue state because of New York City, the entire rest of the state, with like a tiny blip of Buffalo, tiny blip of like Syracuse, maybe, um, is is red. So should New York City be considered its own district, now m myself I would probably I lean uh definitely lean blue, uh, but I do think it's like they have a good point. You know what I mean? So um I don't know. I I I I think that you're right, we talk about it all the time. Is it is it right to do it? I don't know. I this this one I really struggle with to be honest, to like to like choose the side of the fence. Um I think a lot of it has to a lot of it for me comes down to intent, right? If your intent is to do this so you win the primaries, I don't it doesn't feel right. If your intent is to do this to represent the people, then I can understand a little bit better. But right now, like what's happening in Texas, it feels like it's just so my team can win. Um, and I that that doesn't feel as that doesn't feel as right to me as it was if if you had really good like statistical and empirical evidence to say, you know, I think this is a re better representation of our state.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

Right. And I mean there were a lot of like there were a lot of reasons they said they were doing it in Texas where you know um the you know the demographics has changed and they were just needed to update things or whatever. Sure. Uh uh I guess I have to believe you, right? Well, you don't have to believe it. Well empirical data. If if nobody's showing me evidence of the contrary, then I I'm just I have to take people at their word, I guess. I'm is what I'm saying. Interesting, right? And nobody's interesting, nobody's really shown me that Texas is just outright doing it to win, right? Um, like yeah, you can tell me some conspiracy theories, you can tell me, you know, well, no, like look what they're doing. They're like disenfranchising all these people. Well, yeah, but like that's kind of what the districts do, is that they that's what they do. They meant like they're not just squares and rectangles, they look like like somebody spilled an egg. That's like that's how they're drawn, right? So I I uh because like I said, because I know that I have to take I have to take people at their word unless they're gonna show me some evidence, I guess. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

Well, is that this is so interesting. Um, and I think what I really like about us having this discussions here, um, is I'm the exact opposite. I'm not gonna believe anybody at their word. I want to see the data first. And I don't think either approach is wrong necessarily, right? Like, it's just I I I'm more of a person like show me the data, show me why this makes sense, um, before we start to like choose anything, before you start to like make a make an argument.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

Uh no, no, no, no. I completely agree with you there. Oh, okay. U what I'm saying is like, so you get them saying, okay, we've got these numbers, we've got growing populations in this area, this area, this area, this is why we're doing it.

unknown 50:35

Right.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

I'm sorry, I misunderstood, yeah. Yeah. Uh so I'm not just like I'm listening to them, they're saying this is why we're doing it, and I'm like, all right, that's why you're doing it. Like, they could be lying and and like having like drinks in a back room saying we got to get Donald Trump six more seats. Uh but I don't, I'm not, I'm not there. Uh-huh. So I don't I don't know. So that's what I mean by just taking in them at their word. Like, yeah, all right, I underst I believe your intent because I have no other way of proving else otherwise.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

Yeah. I extrapolate probab maybe to a fault at times, just in fairness. Um, because I see a lot of rhetoric about um undocumented immigrants and that trying to sway the vote, Democrat, even though Trump won the Latino vote. Um, and it's it it what it feels like uh at times a response to that. It feels like, oh, we want to redistrict and we want more seats because look what the Democrats are trying to do, they're trying to get illegals to vote. Um and I'm I'm not sitting here and saying that like that maybe that they don't try to vote. Um because of the 2020 election, where we learned a lot about how the votes come in and who actually voted, I genuinely don't think that is an issue. Um because I I think that it does stand a reason to, I guess, like logically, there's a lot of undocumented immigrants that are not trying to vote because they don't want to be anywhere near the where the government see them for the most part. Um that now, and this is what one of your other points, and I don't I don't mean to skip ahead if you had more to talk about here, just to touch on it real quick. Um me leaning left, I do think voter ID is still a good idea. I think that people should provide ID to vote. Um, I think it makes sense in this day and age, in the age of technology, that you should provide documentation. You are a citizen to be able to vote in this government's elections. Right.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

Yeah, I agree. Um, yeah, it's uh I like I yeah, I I don't think we should get into the voter ID thing because it's a really long conversation just like this one. Sure. Um, but I agree with you. It's very I think it's important and it's common sense. Uh I do think I I think a little bit more work needs to be done to figure that out. Um but back to the gerrymandering. Um, here's my solution. And and maybe me being a libertarian, this is gonna be pretty hard for me to say. But I think maybe possibly there needs to be it needs to be federalized just a tiny bit. And for all states, we're not we're not gonna draw your districts for you. Um, you're still gonna have control of that, but you're gonna draw your districts in a way that they are going to have multiple representatives in one district. Right? So you're gonna combine a ton of districts together. So one district might have, like in a big state, five or four or three. So when so in that district, the person who gets 35% of the votes, right, they are yeah, they get two representative out of five, let's say, right? And the other three go to the other um side. Um, and I think that's the right way to do this. Um so you get more representation. I actually believe this should be done for the general election for the president as well. I I don't think it should be um like winner takes all. I think Donald Trump wins 60% of the vote in a state, then he gets 60% of the votes of the the electoral college or the electorates in that state, and Kamala gets 40. That's how it because now you're representing the people, it should not be winner-take all.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Okay, this is very interesting to me. So what you have to basically do is get more than 50% of all of the votes in the country to win presidency.

unknown 54:59

Right.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

So you get so like a state, a large state like I guess we'll use Texas as an example, right? Um I think it is probably a good representation of this example because the the cities there are so large and blue, the rest of the state is red.

SPEAKER_04 55:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

Uh if you win 60% of Texas, you didn't win Texas, you won 60% of Texas, and then you take all those percentages of all the states. So this is very interesting to me.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Yeah, so that's what I think this is how I think it should be done. And uh because you get um like California, right? She's gonna get er like Kamala's gonna get every single one of those votes. But should she, if you know, 30% of the voters voted for Trump, it shouldn't he get some of those those votes?

SPEAKER_01 55:51

That would be a more accurate representation. I I I think you might be onto something here. Um, so like a state like oh man, like New York, this would be really significant because the then the people that vote red, like if you vote red in New York State, your vote just simply doesn't really count. Right. It it doesn't. Uh because there's so many more people in New York City than there is in the rest of the state. So I don't know. I think that awarding a little bit of that, but I guess it kind of amounts to the same thing. But because it's gonna it's gonna come down to your swing states.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

But your vote right, it it will, but also your vote actually matters. Like I live in Connecticut. What what is the point of me voting for anybody else other than a Democrat in in Connecticut? It means nothing other than me voting my conscience, right? Um and I'll say this I've never voted for a Democrat or Republican until this last election. Um I've always voted third party because I hate both. Um, but I just you know, I so my my vote matters even less. You might as well write in Snoopy. Right, exactly. Uh Santa Claus. Um he might win, though, I think, if you wrote in Santa Claus. I he might take the take take it all. I'd row I'd vote for Chris. Yeah. President Kringle. I like it. President Kringle. Um, but uh this is this is my solution though. You have large districts drawn up with multiple representatives in that district so that there is a chance for the minority party in that area to represent their constituents. That's what I think. I think that is the solution to the gerrymandering problem.

SPEAKER_01 57:48

You know where it would matter again is is the swing states, right? So if you if you win like a l slightly larger percentage than normal in states that historically vote one way or the other, like New York, if you if you get like 30% of the red vote there, and then you get the swing states, one of them, just one of them in your favor, those percentages will start to matter.

SPEAKER_02 58:13

Right, exactly. Um I I don't know. I just think this is how we um get more representation um by by fixing this crap. And it ends this whole gerrym gerrymandering debate. And yeah, I'm sure it can be manipulated because everything can. I'm sure there's cons to it. Um, but I think I think more representation uh is a good thing, not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

Yeah, I agree. That's it's kind of what I've admired about like um some countries in Europe. I think England does this. They have like 14 major political parties. Yeah, they do. Like I do I do think that's significant because at some point those parties' ideals have to overlap. So you really do have to like the representative. And it's what I I think what it helps avoid is this my team mentality, which I feel like is more prevalent now than ever. You never vote against your team, uh, but there it's the teams are so uh encompassing in so many different people's views that you know you might be a little bit more swayed to vote for the right representative as opposed to just vote for the team. Right.

SPEAKER_02 59:27

Well, I gotta say something though. I don't know if you should you know admire um the UK too much. No, I definitely don't. Um, because their country is going to shit real fast. Um and we should talk, we should actually talk have a discussion about this because I think what's happening in Britain right now is is very interesting, and I would I could talk about it for three hours. So maybe in a couple of episodes we we talk about the state of things over there.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

Uh I'd love to dive into that. What go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna I just said I I'd love to dive into that. I think it'd be really interesting. My biggest problem with the UK, just like develop some cuisine. Like we don't have to boil everything.

unknown 1:00:14

We don't have to boil.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:16

Uh man. I always uh I always give um the a doctor I work with, Dr. Marlar, he's um he's from the UK, and I always give him such a hard time because um he's really big into soccer, right? And he's like, it's not soccer, it's football. And I'm like, uh you guys invented the word soccer. This is your fault. So don't don't tell me, sir.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

Not so fast to BB. This land is our land.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

Yeah. We always joke on the 4th of July, we're gonna come into work and I he's gonna dress up like a British regular, and I'll dress up like George Washington. Uh I really want to do it one day. Um that sounds amazing. Uh so when he first got hired, I told the uh the owner, because before we were co corporate, I told the owner when on his first day I was coming dressed up like um George Washington, and uh she like took it real serious, and you were like, You you cannot do that, Eric. Like, don't do not do that. And um once we got like once we got bought by corporate, I kept on saying like I was gonna do these things to him, like I was gonna dress up like this, or I'm I was gonna put like American flag wrapping paper all over his desk. Um she went to like some corporate like meeting with ever with all like the heads and uh the executives, and she asked them, she was like, I have this employee who keeps on doing it. Like, is this a good thing? And it's like, oh, why would you even say that? They talked about you at a conference in Vegas. Oh my god. I don't I don't know where it was. Um but uh yeah, they talked about me, and I'm pretty sure they told her, Yeah, like like that that wouldn't be a good look. That would not be a good thing. Uh be a hell of a story though. But hey, we just saw gerrymandering, so good for us. Good for you. That was really your idea. Uh well, no, you helped.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:23

Um, thanks, dude. I'll take credit.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:26

I've got one more thing, and I know we're we're gonna run over because we love each other so much and we just talk way too much. But my sweet prince. Uh I wanted to play a really short round of zoology for morons because we mentioned it earlier. Thank you, Nicole. Um I just okay, real quick bug, water, cat, dog.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:54

Oh, that is a good one. Um I think I gotta go I think I gotta go uh water. Water. Okay. Primarily lives in the water. Dude friggin' loves water. Um loves it. And that's all I have to say about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

Those look like some really comfortable shoes.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:29

So I it's either water or cat. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:32

Water or cat. I Eileen um if I had to pick between those two, I would pick cat. Um, but I'm gonna say bug. You say bug. Defending. Um it lives in the water, it's a mammal, it's furry, but it's got a bill. Um it doesn't have nipples. Like the milk just it comes out and like goes down like tracks. It it also is poisonous. And really? Yes. Wow. Poisonous. Um doesn't it lay eggs?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:18

Well, that would make it a marsupial, so it's definitely not a mammal.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:22

Wait, no, marsupials are like kangaroos. They don't lay eggs.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:28

Okay, first of all, watch your tone. Secondly.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:38

No, no, it lay it lays eggs. But then it it can't be Yeah, it's a it's a mammal, but it lays. I swear to are we stupid? I'm gonna Google this shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

The answer to that question is for sure. Um Google.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

Uh do I don't know how to spell platypus. Platypus. Lay eggs, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:02

Okay, well, uh another reason that is definitely a bug. Most insects no one know how to spell.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:09

But uh Google, which is never wrong, says they lay eggs.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:15

Yeah, I thought they laid eggs. Like a duck.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

Yeah, they lay eggs like a duck, but they're a mammal, they sweat milk, and they're poisonous.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

So their milk just runs down tracks like a hot wheel? Yeah, kinda. Nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:33

Good for them. You know what? Goofah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:39

So um definitely a bug. Definitely a bug.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:43

I can get behind a bug. Yeah, after all that, I can get behind a bug. You got another one for us?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

No, that was it. If you want to do another one, I could I I could pull one out of a hat real quick.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

Yeah, do it. Octopus. Oh, good one. We'll stick with the the pussy. Theme. We'll workshop that. Um I think I so I mean I I it's gotta be a bug. Yeah. It's gotta be a bug. It looks like nothing else on Earth. Like most bugs are very unique. And I don't know. It's gotta it's either a bug or a dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

A bug or a dog?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:31

Yeah, because they're super smart. They will bond with their human. Uh they like different puzzles and they like treats. They like to figure out how to like get to their food. Like you ever put like food in a cong toy for a dog?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

Octopus do the same thing. I'm convinced it's a dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:52

Octopus puts food in a cong toy for dogs.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

Yeah. People will put we'll put like snacks and food into like a container and then let the octopus figure out how to get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:08

Yeah, I've seen that before. That's interesting. Uh man, you've only almost convinced me because I was leaning toward water.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's that would they they're trying to convince you the people at the big water corporations they want you to think that an octopus is anyway, keep going.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

Where are you going with this? Huh? That's so funny. I'm like, I'm I'm I'm laughing and crying, that was so funny. Uh um, so yeah, I think I you convinced me it's a bug.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:55

Yeah, dog. It's a dog? Yeah, that's what I convinced you it was.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:06

Man, you really threw it threw me off with the the water company.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:11

You know those big water corporations, fucking DeSani, those smug those smug fuzz of bitches over there at Aquafina.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:21

Oh yeah, fucking Aquafina. Wow. Uh we are really over. So um let's get into uh things we hate.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:33

Oh my god, we're not even the things we hate yet. I'll keep mine short. All right. Cyclists, get off the road. Ah, you're not traffic, okay? I should not have to drive 14 miles behind you because you're going like this with your hand. Okay? Go over to the shoulder if you must be on the road. I get sidewalks can be hazardous for you, but you know what else? So can cars and traffic get out of the road. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:07

I agree with you, even though I think in the like deep down in my heart of hearts, I know we're wrong. Duh. Duh. Yeah. I agree with you. I hate them so much. Every time I see them, I'm like, look at this fucking jackass. Like, with his big t-shirt and bicycle shorts. Like, what the fuck? Like, what kind of outfit is this? Like, you're walking around in this big t-shirt. It's like like Nick's sleepy time shirt and bicycle shorts. Like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:40

I don't understand the outfit. Like, we we had this guy around here. I don't know what his name was. I've always called him Ralph since elementary school. And he bikes like 14, it must be like a hundred miles a day. The dude wears like bicycless shoulder pads. What? Uh yeah. He wears like this bikeless shoulder pads, and he's got the whole suit to make him super aerodynamic, but the dude's like in his 70s. Who are you racing? Do you really need to be aerodynamic? You're trying to work out, just wear your clothes. I cannot imagine.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

I think the whole I I mean, it's so funny because I have a stationary bike like sitting over there. Uh, but I think the whole idea of biking as an adult is stupid.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:26

Yeah, yeah, but you know where a stationary bike doesn't go? The road. The road, right? In traffic. I just like I can't understand. This is like a group of cyclists, like because they have to do it together.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:40

I know, I can't stand that they do it together. And they're holding up traffic during your morning commute. Get out of the way. The thing that pisses me off so much about it is they're all together, surrounded by like each other, and they're fucking happy. Like, you're pissing me off, you're slowing me down, you're causing a hazard, and you're like, you're you're happy and content and having a good time and enjoying yourself. Like, at least be angry about something, like look miserable so I don't have to hate you so much. Exactly. Like, you should not be in enjoying this. Like, I you know what I can't stand either? Uh because I think bikes are dumb. I remember Paige asked me if we wanted to get a if because she wanted to get a bicycle, and I was like, sure, go ahead. And she's like, Well, are you gonna get one? And I'm like, no, I don't want to ride a bike. What I got legs, like they take me places. I don't need another vehicle. I've got a car if I need to go somewhere. And I don't want to exercise. Uh and if I do want to exercise, I'll do it at home and like the privacy of my own home little gym I've got here. Like, I don't I don't yeah, I don't want people to see me outside. And I also don't want to have to wear a ridiculous outfit or be a part of a group that are always happy to to do exercise. That's dumb.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:00

First of all, why are we on a recreational bike ride? If you're trying to work out why are we wearing the spandex, I just don't understand. I get why why they do with the Tour de France. They're trying, they're trying to win a race. But when you're just doing it on Tuscarora Road over here, you get out of here with that nonsense. And by the way, if I see another one of those goddamn bicyclists in one of those that you recline in and you're like leaning back and you pedal up in the air, nothing makes me want to kick you in the teeth from the people that lay back in their custom bicycle. I think it is so stupid.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:41

I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm gonna have to Google this afterwards. But if I if I saw that, I would just push the person over or throw a stick between their the bicycle spokes.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:52

First of all, I need time to comprehend that you've never seen this before.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:56

Never seen it. I have no idea what you're talking about. Send me a picture. So you know how you ride a bicycle upright like this.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:02

Yeah. These dudes have like a bucket seat, they lean back and they pedal like that up. What a what? This also I'd rather have two fellas on a tandem bicycle enjoying their day than to see that nonsense again.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:23

Well, I was just gonna I was just gonna get there. Though you ever see like a a family of six, you know, like like two, like a handsome man, a beautiful wife, they're really happy together. They got four kids, and they're all on a tandem bike for six and they look so happy. Like, I hate those people so much. Like, first of all, your family shouldn't be that happy. Second of all, no family should be that good at riding a tandem bike where you're happy doing it. You should be yelling at each other, goddammit. I never want to see that shit in real life. I see videos like that, and I I just wish I could yell at those people.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:59

There's two places where cycling is allowed. Well, three. The sidewalk, cycle as much as you want on that bitch. I don't no one gives a shit. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Then we gotta change the law, right? We because that's let's start a petition. We did pajamas, we're doing bike laws next. Um uh you're also allowed to cycle on the lake. Then we got these awesome like floating bikes that are like little boats. Great, great time, awesome. We also have that on like the ice rinks that are out here in Buffalo. Great time. Go ahead, you're in a contained space.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:44

Ugh, it all sounds stupid. I don't I don't want to I got to participate. Yeah, that sounds awful. Oh, what a nightmare. I got legs, they'll take me places, and if I need to go further, I'll take my car. Yeah. Wow. All right. I love this thing. I don't even want to talk about mine now, but I'm going to.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:07

You know what I can't fucking stand other than everything? Everyone, everyone I talk to, everyone on social media, everybody in real life, they've all got like crippling anxiety, ADHD, they're a little bit autistic, and it's all self-diagnosed. And here, I can't stand it. First of all, I don't think ADHD is a real thing. I don't believe it. I think all of us are different. We all focus and are wired a little bit differently, and like kids in school who are hyperactive and are, first of all, boys. Yeah, you're just describing a boy who's in in elementary school. Yeah, of course they're hyperactive. They're sitting in a chair for eight hours a day, you fucks. Um so I don't think it is it is. I think it's because our the the our school system, the way it's developed, it does no good for people who don't focus. So we call them ADHD and we give them fucking meds. But everybody's got anxiety now, and it's like like you're not, oh uh, it drives me nuts. You're not a goddamn victim. Like everybody has anxiety, it's an evolutionary trait. I've got anxiety, I've got horror, like crazy wild anxiety, but I don't fucking talk about it other than right now. Um, but I don't I don't talk about it, I don't blame it for like things that go bad in my life. I'm not on social media saying, oh my God, it's anxiety awareness month, and we all need to talk about anxiety. No, we don't. Like, it's normal to have anxiety because you're a person and it's an evolutionary trait to keep you moving, keep you scared, and keep you thinking and alert. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah, we've all got it. It's not a big deal. You're not a victim. Grow the fuck up and like go wash your dishes. It's not that hard to focus.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:10

Can I clarify something? Oh, go for it. You're not saying that these things don't exist and inflict, you know, like um uh impact people. You're saying when you use that to blame for the things that you do.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:29

I can't stand it. Everybody, yeah, every everybody wants to self-diagnose and label themselves on social media that they're neurodivergent. Like, what does that even fucking mean? Shut up. If you're not like autistic or have Asperger's or some sort of thing like that, you're not neurodivergent. You're like you're just as fucked up as the rest of us. You're not a goddamn victim, and stop talking about it. Nobody gives a shit unless you're in a circle of people who love that bullshit and you're just gonna all affirm and shake hands and say, Oh, I know, I understand your pain, and you know what, it's real, and I'm here with you and I see you. She's like, shut up. Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:12

Um we gotta talk about a few things.

unknown 1:18:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:21

Asperger's isn't a thing anymore. That's gone.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:24

Oh, alright, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:25

That's over. Um it's been encompassed into part of the spectrum. Um uh what's interesting about this topic in general is again, like I think we're both like I think we're both saying and agreeing that these things do exist, these do impact people, but when like anxiety becomes your crutch for why you make maybe make poor decisions or why you don't like why why you it's easier to fold under pressure, that that's a bad trait. Not saying that you aren't feeling a increased anxiety that I might feel in that moment, but like there's definitely times where I feel an increased anxiety about certain things that other people won't. For example, I have zero anxiety about performing on stage in front of people or public speaking for a lot of other people, that would be that would cause a huge anxiety, and they might use that as a crutch. Yeah. Um, I don't think we should do that, but if that is your crutch, I think you know, you probably do suffer from anxiety, like everyone does, but what what can we do about it? What what can what like the manager in me, what can I help you to like get you through this? Because like there was a point, well, there was a point where I would get nervous before going on stage, and I don't anymore. And it doesn't matter the crowd size, it could be five people, it could be five thousand, and there there's no nerves going on, right? Um so it to me, all of that is like a learned skill. You have to learn to get through that anxious period, you have to learn how to deal with it, and then come out the other side learning everything's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:03

Well, here's my thing. Uh like, so I get what you're saying, and I agree, and you're such a nice guy, and everybody should like really see how much better of a person you are than I am. Because you see, you see this as like, hey, like, yeah, everybody's got this, but like we can help you, like we can get through it, and you can get through it. You just gotta find the right way to do it. And I'm not saying that at all. I don't give, I don't give a shit. I I don't care if you get better, I don't care if the anxiety goes away. I don't give a fuck. The only thing I care about is you using your anxiety as some sort of badge of honor, victim status shit that places you in some sort of hierarchy where people need to feel bad for you or give you things or anything like that. Like, I don't give a fuck. You're making it up, it's not that bad, it's just fucking anxiety, and I understand that there are people who really have bad anxiety, and I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the people who post that shit on fucking social media and say, Oh my god, feel bad for me. I have trauma. Like, all right, talk to a therapist, don't put that shit on fucking Facebook, nobody cares.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:18

Yeah, yeah, that's uh the the the people that do that, and that's like the cry for help, right? That's the that's the um attention seeking. Oh, who was it that talked a lot about this? Well, I guess it really isn't in the same vein, but I guess it kind of is. Um Anthony Jesselnik talked about this like extensively a little bit. It's the same Who is that? Uh Anthony Jesslinick is what I consider one of the best stand-up comedians of our time. Oh no. And he had all right. Um he's really great, a lot of dark humor. Um right up in the alley. But he he's this joke writing is so smart, and he's very careful about like talking about difficult subjects in like the right way and using the right language. It's really interesting. But he talks about this. Like the people that do that are the same people that like when there's like a a national tragedy going on, they're the same people that are the quick to run to their phone and post, oh, thoughts and prayers, the people in this city, right? Because you're not really you're not really sending them your thoughts, your prayers, or your thoughts, or your compassion. You're not you're not providing any of that. What you're really saying is, don't forget about me today.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:36

Right. Yeah, I can't stand it.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:39

There's a lot of shit going on in that city right now, but don't forget how sad I am. Right. That's really what you're saying. Because if you really cared, you'd get up out of your chair and you'd go do something about it. You go donate, or you'd go vote the right way, or you'd write to your congressman, you would do something about it, but instead you post it on Facebook so that everyone knows you care, which is more about you than it is with the issue going on.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:06

Right. Well, here, uh I just I just think it's like I don't know. So I got a lot of shit going on in my brain. Uh and when I tell you it's a lot, if like I would never I'm I don't think I would ever have the balls to talk about it on here. Um, but if I told you offline and told you some of the shit that like has gone on with me, you'd be like, what the fuck? But then you'd be like, why is he so normal? Right? And you could ask Paige, you'd be like, hey, is Eric a fucked up person? And she'll be like, Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:45

But I don't Yeah, I already know that about you though, and that's what I love about you, baby.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:49

But I don't, I don't, I love you too. I don't talk about it, I don't use it as a fucking crutch. I take care of my fucking responsibilities. I don't want anybody to feel sorry for me. Like, I just want to live a life, a normal fucking life. I don't want to be a victim, I don't want to be anybody's fucking like, oh my god, look at him. He's so brave. Like, no, I I don't I don't give a shit. Like and I don't want the attention. That's all these people want. It pisses me off, and that's something I hate.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:20

And I I I um I hear you, absolutely. Um uh like I I've I've known you for a long time now. I would I think I would consider what six, seven years a long time. Yeah. Uh so you know they're I get you though, I don't know that a lot of people do. And um because you're the you're the greatest fucking dude. And I think that a lot of a lot of people might hear this like one segment and like think that you're some sort of asshole, and then they would be absolutely wrong about that. Um I really hate that, man. Well, I really hate you know that you have to kind of deal with those thoughts and and deal with those things. Um, because I don't think you deserve that. I think you deserve to just live in and be happy. Um but I also know that you're the type of person that makes strides towards that. You do seek uh the like different kinds of help and outlets and and things, and I think this podcast has become an outlet for you as well, which I you know I'm really happy about. And that's you know, some among many reasons why we do this. Um, some of the reason is that I do know that this is something that you really enjoy, and that makes me happy. So I it gets me energized to keep come here and continue to talk with you because I know this makes you happy, and uh that's just part of the kind of fun. But um, I don't know, man. I I really appreciate you because there's a lot of reasons that uh I think we get along, and it's not always be it what one of the counter reasons is like we don't agree on a lot of things, and we have differing opinions, but one thing we can always agree on is that we're respectful when we talk to each other about them. And you know, I think it takes a special kind of person to come to the table and have a disagreement with someone, and then we just continue to drink beers and and have steaks with each other, and um, you know, it's all forgotten because we both understand we can have those differences, and it doesn't really matter.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:28

Man, you're such a good friend. You made me feel really vulnerable right now, and I don't like it. You know what? I don't give a shit. I really appreciate man, and uh it feels great. Yeah, I love doing this, love chit-chatting with you and just bullshitting, and I love that we do this together. And um so I guess things I hate turned into uh things I love doing. So I really appreciate that. Fucking gotcha. Got me.

unknown 1:26:57

Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:58

Fuck doesn't it feel great to be positive?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:02

Man, I I gotta find a new co-host. You're getting replaced.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:08

Yeah, well, one thing before we uh we're probably gonna wrap up, right? We're we're over anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:14

Yeah, I just got one more thing. Hit it hit me with it. Oh, uh I so something that nobody's talking about, and I think more people should. Um hey, stop talking about your anxiety and start talking about this. I don't think mo I think most people should not own dogs. I think the majority of people should own dogs. It's a hot take.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:39

This is well, no, it's I don't really think it's that hot. I mean, like people will think it is, but like we both work in vetmed and we see what goes on. Um I'm not even talking about vetmed.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:48

Like, here, okay. Uh wait, I cut you off. You go. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:53

No, no, I was I was just gonna say like we we see that all the time. People are not prepared to take care of an animal. People do unreally really understand what goes it goes into taking care of that animal well. Um, and it is hard, and you can still love animals, you can still love pets, but when it really comes down to taking care of that pet, a lot of people are really not prepared for that, both mentally, physically, and financially. Um, and you know, you that is a really big thing to consider before you would adopt an animal.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:26

Right, I agree completely, but this doesn't come from my experience in Vatman. So I was at the park with Baloo, and I take him like around this big circle. We talked about this at the park. Yeah, and like he's so well behaved, he's like he's one more year of training with him, he's gonna be bulletproof. And he was a nightmare when uh we brought him home. Like he was the leash reactive, he humped everything, he chased the cat. If we if he saw a dog, he would just lose his mind and bark. And it wasn't like a bark, it was like a a scream. And um yikes, and now like he sees a dog and he's just like looking up at me, like, all right, dad, what do we do? He prances, he's just such a well-trained dog, and we invested a ton of money into it. Like, he goes to school, we got we went to like classes, then a trainer came into the house, and he loves people, uh, and we really like invested a lot of time and money into making a good dog. And I'm at the park the other day, and I'm just watching people with their dogs dragging them around or uh letting them like off leash and going to look at other dogs, and it's just like I'm terrified of it. So I'm walking him, and uh and there's this lady and she's being pulled by the dog, and the dog's like lunging up below, and he's just staring at me like, what do I do? And uh it's like we're just gonna keep moving, bro. Let's go, buddy. And he just follows me past, he doesn't pay attention to the dog at all. And I'm just like, like thinking, why do you why didn't you do this with your dog, what I just did? And it's because you shouldn't own one.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:20

Yeah, you're not physically prepared for it, man. And that's it's a lot of work. It's so much work.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:28

You know, like we see some really terrible things at in VetMed, you know. Uh, I'm sure like you're right there at the emergency place, so you must see some worse things than I do. And like sometimes it's really sad because these people come in, they their pets really sick, they don't have any money, and they don't know what to do. And you know, the doctors do they their best to offer them, you know, you know, what they can afford, but something that will actually help. Um but and you feel bad, you're like, oh man, like I wish I could give you three thousand dollars so we could fix your pet. I'm and I'm sorry you don't have it. Um but I think a good rule for anybody who wants a dog, uh before you get a dog, call your vet, ask, ask their, ask for some advice about puppies, and then ask them how much a spay or neuter costs. And if you can't afford three of those, you can't afford a dog. I think that's a good rule of thumb. If you couldn't afford to pay for three of those, you shouldn't you shouldn't own a dog yet. Save up some money and really take like take the time to think about what you're doing and how you're doing it, what breed you're getting.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:51

Absolutely. If you're getting a lab, just know you're gonna deal with a foreign body surgery at some point. Yes. Right? Like that the labs labs like to eat everything, they eat everything off the floor, your socks. Um, like it could be anything, and like you know, you're gonna have to deal with that at some point. And I don't want you to be in a position where you have to choose my bank account or my dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:17

Because that's the reality. And I and like we're not naive to it. Like, this this costs money. The reason people think the vet is so expensive is because you have in health insurance as a human, and so you go to the doctor and it's 10 bucks because of your copay. Look at the bill. It's not that much different. Yeah. You know, the difference is though, you can tell your doctor what's wrong with you. These pets cannot tell the doctor what's wrong with them, they have to go find out. Yeah, and it's hard to find out, and even then, it's not a guarantee, it's it's it's a process of elimination a lot of times.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:52

Yeah, because you you just have to do diagnostic after diagnostic until you get an answer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:57

Yeah. And that's the only way to find out. And I'm not even on the medical side of it, I'm on the business side of it. And I I feel for for these people, and I don't know, it's tough, but you really should dude reach out to us if you're considering getting a pet and you need to know, like, we'll we'll give you information and we'll um it has set you up with the right people, but you know, I don't know. I agree with this.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:21

Yeah. Um, I don't know. I they bring everybody so much joy, and I get it. Um, but if you're not prepared for it, don't get one. Yeah. So that's it. That's that's my my last sip.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:35

Last thing I'll say about it though, is your veterinarian, I promise you, is trying to help you and is trying to help your pet. And it can get it can get easy to lost to lose sight of that when you see the price tag on on what their work costs, but they are trying to help you.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:58

Yeah, I agree. That's good. Um, all right.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:04

I think we should end it there. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:07

Yeah, I like a good message. And it and if and if you're not listening to us, I'll get Sarah McLaughlin on here to fucking tell you what's up.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:19

She hates the Pope, though. So she does hate the Pope. Yeah, so Catholics just beware.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:30

Good thing our good thing our fan base is mostly and largely Jewish.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:39

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:41

Oh so I now that now that you said that, um there was a time where I didn't have a beard. Uh and everybody says I look like Adam Sandler. And I don't see it, I don't think it's true. Um, but uh in the Marine Corps, there's this guy, Chris Delary, who's from Alabama, had this deep accent. Um great, great fucking guy. Uh and he would always call me the Jew. And I'd be like, and I'd be like, all right, cool. I don't look like Adam Sandler, but he'd be like, yes, you do. Everybody. You're Adam Sandler. I'm like, okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:27

Well, if the audience was looking for what we'll cut out of this podcast, that was it. I don't think it's an insult. No, it's not. I'm just teasing. Um I you know what's funny is I don't think you look like Adam Sandler at all. Like, I can picture I've seen photos of you without a beard. I don't think that sucks at all. Now, if you wore a polo and like clashing colored basketball shorts, then I might say, nah, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:53

Not not even close. But even in like eighth grade, people would be like, you look like Adam Sandler. And I'm like, no, I don't. Like, you guys are all stupid.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:02

Well, at least you had something, someone cool to be compared to. Everyone just said I looked like my brother.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:11

You know, I'm sure people uh would say that I look like my father, but he was never around. So oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:22

Well, that's where your crippling, that's where your crippling anxiety comes from.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:26

Yeah, just just waiting for him to finally come home. Man, it has taken him a long time to go get milk. No, it was his dry cleaning. He got lost.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:39

Yeah, he got lost. Yeah, no, so he's got he's just gotta follow the trail.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:42

Oh, that's so funny. I'm crying. This was such a funny episode. That's just a good one. Yeah. Oh man, I laugh so much. I'm glad I did this. I hope everybody enjoys this.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:54

I'd love to just plug this real quick, though. Uh, I do have uh an upcoming show for anyone that's around in Buffalo that might see this. Um, it's gonna be May 3rd. Um, it's uh Sunday, uh 3 p.m. start time. Uh it's a charity event for uh rock autism. They um it's a really awesome foundation that provides um uh the arts. It exposes kids on the spectrum to the arts, uh, which is really cool. So they I've seen that they have uh yeah, they have you know classes um and workshops where they'll provide musical instruments and get kids involved in that. Um anything from there up into like camera work and like you know learning how to use a video camera for like TV shows and things like that. Um it's a really really cool thing. Uh so I'll be playing uh a benefit show for that to help raise money for that foundation, and I'll be playing uh in two different bands uh for that for that show, which is really cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:47

That is cool. What is it again?

SPEAKER_01 1:37:50

Uh it is uh May 3rd at the Sportsbin, downtown Buffalo. Uh really cool spot, cool venue at 3 p.m. If you're around, you know, come check it out. You'll see some stuff on our socials about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:04

If you don't go, I'm gonna put you in the things I hate. So just think about that. Fucking go out there and and show those kids some support. I love that. Hell yeah. It's great.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:15

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:16

All right. Well, remember when we said we wanted to keep it to an hour?

SPEAKER_01 1:38:20

Didn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:22

I don't think it's possible, dude. No, I don't think so. Um all right, well, great show.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:28

Um see you guys next time. Woogie boogie. Woogie boogie.