EP007 | Huge Keys, Fake Outrage & Pointless Debates

In this episode, we somehow cover everything and solve absolutely nothing.

We start with an update on my wife’s massive keychain, which still gets lost constantly. Siri continues to ignore me but somehow listens perfectly to the TV, and Jeff spots someone at the gas station fully committed to the pajama lifestyle.

From there it spirals.

We get into the internet losing its mind over Timothée Chalamet’s ballet comments, why TV commercials feel like they’re made for idiots, the ongoing WNBA revenue debate, Jeff hating Jake and Logan Paul, my rant about bumper stickers, and whether or not Trump actually understands tariffs.

It’s all over the place. You’ve been warned.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome to Two Guys No Credentials.

SPEAKER_01 0:02

We're two completely unqualified people talk about nothing.

SPEAKER_03 0:05

And everything. Like we know what we're doing. Spoiler. We don't. Do you remember the original XFL at all?

SPEAKER_01 0:14

Uh no.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

Yes, but uh well, I remember that it existed, but that's it.

SPEAKER_03 0:23

So this thing was absolutely incredible. They actually the the whole concept, right, was to be like the WWE for football. So they wanted to be like on the field and have a real up-close experience. But a lot of those things that they did in the XFL, the NFL does now because of them. The Sky Cam, that was XFL's idea. Oh, okay. So it's just pretty cool that they still they kind of use some of those uh ideas. But uh yeah, so Brian, they had this thing, instead of a coin toss at the beginning of the game, they just put the ball at the 50-yard line, and then two players had to run from like their 30, and whoever got to the ball first. So the very first play, the very first time they do this, the very first game, both guys dive at the ball, they crash heads, and both of them are concussed out for the game.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

It's a horrible idea. I think it's a great idea. I do this all the time at work. Like, there's some one of something, but two people want it, and I'm always like, you know what? You guys should grapple for it. Yeah, you should cage match for it, at least. And everybody is kind of like, uh, like we don't do that in the civilian world, but in the marine corps, like that was a thing. I remember a real quick story. Uh so when you're in the Marine Corps, you sometimes you end up going to do details for dumb shit. Uh-huh. And um, like sometimes you have to go to the armory and clean weapons because assholes are stupid and don't clean their weapons, so you have to do it for them. Or um, but this one time I was in charge of the back gate for uh the air show one year, and the air show at Miramar is a big deal. So basically, what our job was to stop vehicles, search them, take any alcohol, weapons, anything that they can't have on base. So I'm a sergeant and I've got a shit ton of like 19-year-old Lance Corpals working for me. And we stop this car, and they've got well, hold on. We stop a limousine and it's filled with alcohol. We confiscate all of it. Love that, but we ended up confiscating a bunch of weird stuff, like um uh uh a taser, a couple of knives, right, and a ton of alcohol. And two guys wanted the taser, and I was like, fucking grapple for it. And they were like, let's do it. They took off their blouse and they were ready to fucking go. Ready to fucking go. Like, that's how things should be done in real life.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

Yeah, that that's how that's how uh war should be decided.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Oh, that I mean, yeah, they used to do that.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Yeah, grapple for it.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

No, and like with as many people as you can. Two armies, they're like, uh, let's not do this. You're your best fighter versus my best fighter, and whoever wins wins.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Like love that.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Yeah, I like that too. Um, Iran can't do that anymore because they just executed a wrestler, like a famous wrestler. So the whole grappling thing's out.

SPEAKER_03 4:02

It's out the window, you know, times have changed.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Fucking Iran. Oh, yeah, yeah. Let's not get into that though. Um, I've got some updates. I think you've got an update. Uh um, so uh let's go back and forth. You want to start oh well, yeah, yeah. You want to start? Well, we can't go back and forth if you want to start. You only got one.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Yeah, I only got one, and um, I changed my mind on this update because I want to talk about something so much better. Um, okay I want go fine. I want to talk about Afro Man.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Uh have you been keeping up on this at all? Do you do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 4:43

I know what you're talking about. I know the situation. He was raided, they didn't find anything, and he spent like a year and a half making up songs just making fun of them. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

But that's I find nothing better. I find nothing better than this whole okay. 2022, his house was raided for some totally bogus uh charges. They enter his house, they break down his door, they the cops end up finding nothing, so they're annoyed that they're there. They end up stealing like his cash and a bunch of other items, totally about five grand. And the one cop in there that I love that he focused on the kitchen camera, you can see it from the footage that he posted. This cop is eyeing the lemon pound cake the entire time he's there, and all he wants is a slice of this pound cake. Well, Afroman zooms in on that fact, so part of his song is the fact that he just wants that piece of pound cake, and so much so that this police officer ended up getting hundreds of pound cakes delivered to the department. That's a good thing. It's so good. But then all of those officers counter-sue him.

unknown 5:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

They're the ones, they're the ones that broke in on false claims, left the place of disaster, stole his things, and now they're suing Afroman for making a funny song about it. And his cake. And his pound cake. What the fuck? This whole thing goes on for about a year. Afroman is sitting up on the stand having to defend himself and basically just saying, I don't understand what the problem is. This is my First Amendment right to my freedom of speech. And I'm all I'm doing is making music about things that actually happened. If you want to talk about the facts, we can talk about how the police broke into my home, about how they stole my things and found nothing of worth in terms of what the charges were for. So if it wasn't for them doing that, not doing a proper investigation before raiding my house, they didn't do that, then we wouldn't be sitting here right now. So at the end of all of it, like the police officers had to get up on stage because at one point Afroman had a song about one of the police officers about how he's having an affair with that cop's wife. It's so it's just so like outrageous and ridiculous, which is why he did it. So the the the officer is on the stand, the lawyer's asking him, Well, is your wife having an affair with Afroman? Which is an outstanding sentence to hear out loud. Yeah. And he he's like, Well, I I don't know. He's like, You're unable to verify if your wife is having an affair with Afro Man? And he's like, Well, you can never really be sure. Yeah, you can. You can actually you can actually be very sure. Anyway, he ended up winning the case. And he leaves the courtroom going, We won America. The pettiness, though, to for to first of all, write a bunch of really catchy songs, then make a Vit music video of all of them, and then not stop there. It gets posted on all of his social media and also on a speaker that plays all the songs on a loop like all day. Just for the community. Yeah. Oh my god. I I I loved every second of this. And Afro Man has grown so much in popularity, like just making a resurgence. He was actually just in uh Schenectady uh here in western New York. Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

No, what's unbelievable is there's a place called Schenectady.

SPEAKER_03 8:32

That's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

What is that?

SPEAKER_03 8:34

It's not that far, it's not that far from Canada Iguana. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 8:39

Yeah, it's not far at all. Oh, so um when they're facing southwest, they must see a lot of northern lights.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Yeah, they see a lot of um, it's like a this interesting Western New York phenomenon where the lights, like the sky will will light up orange, uh, and then when you get closer, you find out that this is there just lights. It's a ski lobe. Yeah, yeah, it's a ski slope lit up in the nighttime.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

What did I say? I just said ski lobe. Yeah, it's a ski lobe. You know, a skillope.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

I actually like it better. It's a ski lobe.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Skelope.

unknown 9:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

I also like the fact that this joke is only for uh four different people.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

I know. And they're probably not gonna listen either. No, not at all. So um I've got an update. Do you remember when I told you that Paige her keys weighed almost 10 pounds and you said she was the janitor of Hogwarts?

SPEAKER_00 9:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Well, um, there's another issue here that's even more insane. Um, those keys somehow get lost all the time. How? Explain it to me. They're gigantic, they weigh they weigh 11 pounds. It's like it's like misplacing a car battery. Like, how do you do it? Like, if you drop those keys in the house, insurance needs to get involved. I just don't understand how those keys are getting lost. Yeah, it's like it's like losing track of your refrigerator. Right. The keychain is so large, and it's c it's a constant thing. Like, I don't know where my keys are. Where are my keys? I can't find my keys. And it's like, you haven't tripped over them yet? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

The best part is it's all those keys on that keychain and so many different little keychain things that we didn't put an Apple tag. I'm gonna put an Apple Air tag on that bitch yet.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

No, that's the yeah, that's next. That's the next step. Yeah, that's the next step.

SPEAKER_03 10:52

Yeah, qualifying step.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

But yeah, I just figured I'd I'd throw that in there as an update because um this week I swear the keys got lost seven times. So yeah. Oh, and I've got another update. What's up? Um, so I'm sitting. Uh well, I I don't know. I think I was editing some clips or doing something for the pod, and I've got Seinfeld running in the back the background, and it's the episode where Jerry gets a watch as a gift from his parents, and it keeps it doesn't keep good time, so he just throws in the garbage, and Uncle Leo finds it. Um, but anyway, I'm working and Kramer walks into Jerry's house. Jerry's parents are on the couch, I think, and Kramer asks for the time. And all of a sudden, Siri's like, sure, it's 325. And I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_03 11:53

That's wild.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Right? So I so I pause the TV and I go, Siri, do you have the time? Nothing. Siri, do you have the time? Nope. Not answering me. So I play the clip back. Siri gives fucking Kramer the time. Kramer has more control of your house than you do? Yes. How weird is that? Oh, don't like it at all.

SPEAKER_03 12:24

Yeah, that kind of that is not awesome. This happened to Sam one time. She came home uh complaining about work, and she was just like on a rant and just like venting it out, and we're like, let's go. And then Siri just goes, It's okay. I think you're a great person.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Yeah, she's always listening. Always listening.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

Yeah, and and she's a liar.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Yeah, Sam's not a great person. I've got a I've got a bone to pick to with Sam, but that's that's for another time. Okay. Yeah. Uh um, all right. Any more updates?

SPEAKER_03 13:12

Um, I mean, not really. Uh we had to kind of we're a little bit late in this this week uh getting to this, but like last weekend, I just got to play music all day. Like all day, was it Saturday or Sunday? It was awesome. Uh, I haven't been able to do that in a few years, uh, but we have a uh a show coming up, and man, I am just so looking forward to that. And it's a it's it's at a decent venue, it's hopefully gonna be a decent crowd. Um, and it's a tiny, tiny stage, just like the old days. We're gonna be cramped up there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get a perfect view of my fellas and their butts.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

I I again you threw me off because is that what that's all you see?

SPEAKER_03 13:58

Is their butts? Um sometimes, yeah. If the stage is spread out wide enough, like I can I get aligned to the crowd, but sometimes when it's real cramped, it's just like I get I get their shoulder blades like right here.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

So um you're just staring at their cake like that cop was staring at Afroman's cake. Exactly, exactly like that. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

Let's see how many times we can throw that in. The pound cake is so funny to me. And like of all the things he could be upset about that they did to his home, he took a piece of pound cake.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Yeah, don't take my 11 pound cake. Fuck you. Oh my god, so good. All right. Well, um do you have a do you have a regret this week?

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Um, regret. You know. Um the only thing that I really have, I was on my way to work earlier this week. It was 6 30 in the morning. So I stop and grab some gas before I head on my way. And there's a dude, it's tw it's 14 degrees out. There's this dude in a hoodie and pajama pants, pumping gas, 25 mile an hour wind. What are you doing? You've got to be kidding me in this weather? Get out like listen, I'm a Buffaloan. I I'd rather you be wearing shorts than pajama pants out once again in public. What were you doing at 6 a.m.? Like, where are you going that you couldn't have put on real pants for this? Or even shorts. I don't care if you're a war, and I don't give a shit about you, fella. I just don't, you can't be wearing pajama pants to the gas station to pump gas. Your pajama pants in your home, ban the jams.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

Ban the jams.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

Hashtag ban the jams.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

I don't even care if you live in your car. Take three minutes and change. Reach into your reach into your glove compartment or wherever you keep your clothes, put on some pants, then pump gas.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

Yeah. Yeah. Go into your dr go into your dresser, aka plastic bag that you found on the road, and grab your regular pants, put your pajama pants in there. I don't care that you're wearing them in your car, because if you live there, that's your home. Yeah. You change them goddamn PJs. Yeah, when you get on public change.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

Fucking I almost said something to him. You just gotta start screaming at people. Ban the jams. Yeah. Ban the jams. But I do have an update.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Literally scream.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

What's up, bud? I I have an update about ban the jams, and I completely forgot about this until you reminded me, so I'm really glad you had sort of an encounter. But Band the Jams is gaining steam. And um, I was talking to my brother-in-law uh last night at dinner, and pajamas are officially banned at the American School for the Deaf. We're doing the Lord's work. Yep. We are.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

We are. I mean, gotta ban the jams. Yeah, we gotta ban Tampa Bay Airport and the Deaf School.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

We're not making any progress at the Cheesecake Factory, though, and I'll be honest, um like I I'm I'm a little sad about it.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

Yeah, but the Cheesecake Factory, that's like that's like the boss level, you know?

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Yeah, we're gonna need like three or four protest protesters out there.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna need a lot more corporate pressure. Yeah, I agree. I'm gonna start with that guy at the gas station. We'll get there. Yeah, we will. We just gotta keep we gotta stay strong. And even though it's tough, and even though we're getting a lot of criticism, we gotta ban the jams.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Ban the jams. Agreed. Um, all right, back to the regrets. I've got a regret. So um in my new role at work, um, I'm kind of in control of the schedule and the teams and who I pair together and everything like that. And um uh we have this young vetech who is incredible, she's super smart, willing to work, enthusiastic, asks questions, uh, just wants to learn. She's she's great. Um, and there hasn't been very many opportunities to get her into surgery uh to assist with anesthesia and everything like that. Um, so I've made it kind of like a priority to get her in there because I just don't want her to lose the knowledge that she learned in school because she just graduated, I think over the summer. Um, so and she still hasn't she hasn't gotten one opportunity to get back there. So it was a big priority once I took this role. Um and my work bestie, Nicole, right, who's super smart, um, just amazing. She's her her her knowledge and abilities is just mind-blowing. She's just so good, and she makes everybody better, and that's pretty wild too, because we have a pretty incredible team. Um, but I paired those two together the last couple of Tuesdays, and they're having way too much fun together, and I'm gonna have to split them up. Yeah, I don't like I don't like it.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, you gotta be the teacher. Split assigned seats, everyone. Don't like it. Um, because uh nice to have that report. You gotta you gotta love the fact to get along, but when it starts to become unproductive, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

No, no, that's the other problem. It is it's still productive. Oh, you're just upset they're having more fun than you? Yes. Yes. That's all. That's why I regret it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

Yeah. You know, I it's I'm upset with myself that I should have known that that was your angle.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Yeah. I'm upset with you too. You you think I care if any you think I care if anybody's being productive? I just don't want anybody to have more fun than me. Well, that's a that's a pretty low bar. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

The dude that hates everything don't have more fun than him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

That's good.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

Valid regret. Yeah. I feel like I feel like the regret's misplaced.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

No, no, no, no. Because like, so I'll have like five minutes in between an appointment or something, and I'll kind of like, you know, poke my head to see, you know, what's my work bestie doing over back there? Dude, can I go over there? And she's fucking having a great time with this new girl, this not new girl, but this this young lady who's just incredible. She's having more fun with my work bestie than I'm having. It's not bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

You walk back there and they're like playing scategories.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Yeah. Yeah. Even on my day off last week, they sent me a picture together while they're like like prepping a dog for anesthesia.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

Oh my god. Well, that's you have to go there and lay down the law. Yeah, that shit's ending real time. If you're having fun at work, more fun than me, you're getting written up. And that's the end of it. It's the end of the discussion. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. If you have more fun than me two times in the same week, you know what? There's the door. Get out. We can't have that kind of positive culture around here, not in these parts.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Yeah, go salt the driveway or something.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

Yeah, go salt the driveway. It's not even salted. And it's slippery.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Unbelievable. That's ridiculous. These people.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

They don't know how to act at work. No, you gotta be miserable and pissed off all the time.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Yeah. Like I used to say while I was walking down the hallways at headquarters. Secure the fucking happiness.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

Listen, if you enjoy your job, get a new job. Alright? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Yeah. So I were I worked with a doctor. This was years ago. This is my first job. I work with this doctor, and he used to tell people, and he'd like yell at yell it at them. He'd be like, there's no crying in veterinary medicine. Well, you know what? There's no smiling either.

SPEAKER_03 23:08

And by the way, there's kind of a lot of crying.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

I know somebody said somebody would be so upset about you know a dog being put down or a like a mistake that they made that was like an honest mistake, it happens. Um they'd be really upset and he'd be screaming at people like there's no crying in veterinary medicine. That's a hot take. I know. It's fun to say though.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

It is fun to say, right? There's no crying in baseball. We all know that. You know, that's a towel as old as time. Um fucking pet pet. I don't know. Uh whatever. Like that, like that pet you've been working with since it's a puppy. It's now 17 years old and it's time. Yeah. Don't cry about it, dumbass.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

You better not. Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

You're crying about that dog you've known for his entire life. I know.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

I know. Rub some fucking dirt on it. It's gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Rub some dirt on it. Go go ahead and get get a Gatorade or a Pediolite, whatever the kids drink these days, and go on about your day. All right. A little prune juice, help with your urinary tract.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

No. Cranberry juice is for the urinary tract. Prune juice is for the other tract. Excuse me. Are you trying to have more fun than me right now?

SPEAKER_02 24:32

No. I would never. Yeah, good. See, that's that's the proper response.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

All right. Um, let's get into Timothy Chalamet. Yes, tell me, hit me with a baby girl. Because I really would love to get into Timothy Chalamet. Yeah, at a boy. At a boy. Um, so uh he was on, I don't know, Matthew McConaughey's show, and they were talking about ballet and opera, and I guess he upset a lot of people because he basically said that he wouldn't want to be a part of um the opera or oh no, he said I wouldn't want to be a part of something that's dying. I think that's basically what he said. Um and he said upset a lot of people, and I don't understand why so many people on the internet are upset about this. Like, it's been dying for like 200 years, and a very, very small minority of people are keeping it alive, and good for them. Like, I don't I think I think it's important. Keep ballet, keep opera alive. It's very difficult. But fuck, we all know what he means, so shut the fuck up about it.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

Yeah, I mean it's not like uh it's like how many of you have uh opera songs on your iPod? Right. No one ever being said, I guarantee you don't have the national anthem either. So maybe that's not a great example, but uh but um I listen to it every morning.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

The national anthem? Yep, every morning. Yeah? No, I'm making that up.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

Yeah, yeah, I know. Uh the opera, the opera's been dying, like you said, for 200 years. The only people that like it now they they don't like it because they like opera. They like it because they feel like it makes them smarter than you for not liking it. Well, I mean, the people who do opera, they must like it.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

I don't question it. I can't, I mean, I think as like you know, person in music, the people that sing opera incredibly impressive to me because you have to have a specific type of vibrato. The songs are written purposely, so like they're incredibly like technically difficult to sing, and I can find the value in it. Am I gonna sit through three hours of that? Absolutely not. No. Also, I think people in Italy probably like opera because that's like mostly written in Italian. Um, but outside of that, I just can't see. I can't see why anybody would ever get excited about it.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Uh well, you know what? Get excited. I don't care. I just don't understand why people are getting upset.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

Yeah, that's the that's the right angle.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

I I I don't understand why people are getting upset. We all know what he meant. Like, stop with the fake fucking outrage. Shut up. Like, why is this whole thing? There was this whole thing, Steven Spielberg was like um ignoring him at the Oscars. Like, oh, good for you, Steven Spielberg. But like, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_03 28:02

Yeah, well, if you need a leading role, you're gonna call Timothy Chadelnet. I'll tell you that for free.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

That well, that's where I wanted to get into because um, like, I guess he's a very big star. Yeah. But uh I I know him from Dune. I was surprised that he was in Interstellar, I don't remember that at all. Oh, yeah, he was uh Matthew McConaughey's son. Yeah, uh Forgettable. Um, it's his first feature film. Well, like I said, forgettable. Um so I know him from Dune. Apparently he was in Interstellar, and there is a movie that I really, really like on Netflix. I think it's like the uh The Last King or The Last Battle.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

The last king, yeah, about King Arthur, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

I don't I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Like it's just last king and it's old. Um I it's not about King Arthur, it's uh is it King Edward?

SPEAKER_03 29:07

I don't know. I don't know, I don't know all the I'm pretty sure it's King Edward.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Um but uh or Alfred, maybe Alfred? I can't, I don't know, but it was very good. Who gives a shit? Yeah. It was very good, but I didn't even realize it was t Timothy Chalamet. Oh, really? I no, because uh I don't know. Like most of the time I'm watching a movie and I'm like, oh my god, that guy, that guy, we saw him in this and this, yeah. And his name was the same. Uh but I yeah, with this one, I guess I didn't recognize because uh he's got a forgettable face. I don't know, didn't recognize him in Interstellar either.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

So so this to me is a hot take. So I will say Interstellar was a three-hour movie, he was maybe in less than a minute and a half of it. So like I completely understand why it's forgettable because there's not a lot of scenes when he's like at home. Um it was like the opening scene, and then like you quickly saw him for 10 seconds at at some point. Totally understand that. I think that he is the best actor in our generation right now.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Yeah. What do you mean? That dude's good. What do you mean our generation? Like it was in our age.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Oh, I just cohort. Alright, we're gonna have to do an update next time we meet, because um I think you're wrong, but I just I can't even think of somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Yeah. I know.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

I I like Timothy Cal. I like Timothy Callum, it's great. Well, didn't you didn't you like Dune?

SPEAKER_01 30:52

Dune? Yeah. Um yes and no. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Let's get into this a bit.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Oh yeah? All right. So I like Dune because I like um I like science fiction and fantasy. Um, and I thought they did a wonderful job uh depicting a world without technology, with but also with high technology. Um because like uh there's some there's some backstory there where uh technology got out of control, so nothing can have like an AI brain and everything like that. And like it's all that's all illegal. Like anything that works by itself is illegal. Um and I thought they did a beautiful job doing that and showing that without telling us. Um the score was incredible.

SPEAKER_03 31:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

The score was incredible. It visually it was beautiful, especially if you watch it on IMAX.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

The visual was stunning, and it didn't need IMAX to be stunning.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Yes, it did, because on IMAX there was like 20% more stunningness.

SPEAKER_03 32:07

So you want me to get my ass in a car in Buffalo in February for 20%?

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Nah, 20 oh man. Well, that's 120% if you put it all together. That's math. Yeah, that see, I don't math good. That's my problem. So um here's my only thought about the first Dune. Um, they ended it like a beat too late. So you you get like the fight and everything, and like it should have ended at the that at the end of that fight, but then you get like a whole nother beat, and it kind of left me like, What why'd you do this? Like, just just make the other movie a part of this one and make it six hours. I don't know. It was weird, yeah. Yeah, but all in all, I really liked it. Um whatever.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

Yeah, I I thought it was a tremendous movie. I agree with all of your points, and uh, you know what, now that you say it, ending a beat too late, I can totally see that. Um, but like I that that whole film start to finish, I never felt bored, and it's not because the subject matter was like exciting all the time, it's like it wasn't die hard where things are just exploding constantly, but you they I think it's an actor's job to get the audience to give it to care about you and about the characters. Uh so I think that Timothy Chalamet did that better than I see anybody else in our cohort doing that right now.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

I'm just flabbergasted. You said cohort.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

Yeah, I took the SATs, failed them. Um yeah, all right. I well, I guess I can't argue with you because I can't name another actor in our cohort. Cohort. Well, that let's circle back around to this for next week, maybe. All right, yeah, we have to. Because I yeah, I I think you're wrong. I have no evidence for it, but I think you're wrong.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

Uh if you find if you find one in the cohort that like is as good or bad, I'd love to chat about that.

SPEAKER_01 34:20

All right, and um also next week we'll be banning the word cohort. Yeah, but one more time, cohort. All right, you want to get into uh TV commercials?

SPEAKER_03 34:33

Uh yeah, this isn't this doesn't take long. Uh like the marketing strategy behind TV commercials, they just think you're dumb. That is what they do. Like that, like that's what that's what the company thinks of you. They think you're a moron, and that drives me nuts. And I didn't even notice it until somebody uh like maybe a year ago pointed that out to me. So I started like anytime I'm watching like sports, it's the only time I've ever actually watched TV. But anytime I'm watching sports, I notice the commercials that come on and these these two like cartoon characters doing something stupid, or the the dumb people that like are fumbling with the Tupperware and the thing. Like, that's what they think of you. And that should make you not want to buy this product because they think you're that stupid. Is that what's going on? That's what's going on. Because you don't need this, like you don't really need this product, right? And if it was a good product, they could show you how well it works and why it makes your life better. But instead, they choose to convince you how stupid you are and how this product helps make you look less stupid in front of your friends. Huh.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

I think I think this goes back to our Netflix talk about like people's attention span. Could be. I think they just want you watching it. I but you know what? I can't say anything because I don't watch commercials anyway.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Yeah, I'm mostly on streaming services, right? Like, and you know, I should try to avoid that whole thing. So the only time I've ever like if I'm watching sports, right, on cable like March Madness on. I I don't really really watch March Madness, but if it's on, I'll watch a game. And I'm I'm flabbergasted by how stupid that they think I am. Okay, perfect product. This is a real thing. And we should we'll put a link in the box, we'll put a link in the description for the post we put up. The Cobgobbler. The Cob Gobbler? This is a real product. No, it can't be. That's that's made up. We checked into it. We're watching bare knuckle boxing, don't know why, and they had this AI commercial come on, and the whole thing is like set in like they're doing a podcast and talking about this amazing product called the Cob Gobbler. And all it is, it's just a peeler, but instead of the peeler being like a straight thing, they put it on the other side, which already exists, and then you can peel corn off of the cob. You know what else does that? A knife. And so you don't, this product is already really stupid, but then there's a line in there in the commercial about how the cobgobbler, it's not just it's not just a product, right? It's an investment in your future. Yeah. The future of corn.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

Yeah, corn is the future.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

That's how stupid they think you are.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Alright. I I guess I agree with you. I have no opinion on this. I really don't, man. Which is wild. But I do want to know where'd you get your time machine so you could go back into the 1914 and watch bare knuckle boxing.

SPEAKER_03 37:50

Dude, it is it's on a I have YouTube TV, and there's one station in there when it's like, you know, midnight, they don't show anything other than different rounds of bare knuckle boxing. And it's current, it's happening right now.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

I didn't even know that was a thing anymore.

SPEAKER_03 38:10

This dude, a perfect punch, connected right on the bridge of his nose, shattered it. So the dude had like a nose, like you see the profile, and then after the punch, it was just like eye socket and then flat. His nose was flattened on his face.

SPEAKER_01 38:27

Yikes. I don't like that at all.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

I actually hated every second of watching this, but the other fellas liked it.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

Oh, I don't so like um uh hand-to-hand combat just never really interested me.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

Nah, boxing, UFC, MMA, all of it. I don't I don't care. Yeah, I just don't because you know what I don't like? At least in boxing, if you get knocked out, right, and you go down, there's a count. You're not allowed to hit them anymore. So like I can see that, right? There's something like barbaric about the UFC to me, where if you knock this guy out and you keep clearly out, you have to keep punching on his face until the ref stops you. And like that's that just seems nah seems like a bit much, right?

SPEAKER_01 39:15

I think for me, it's like so uh if I'm watching football, a million things can happen. Obviously, one team's gonna win, one team's gonna lose, maybe there's a tie, but like a million things throughout the game can happen. With um like hand-to-hand combat, it's just like somebody's gonna win. All right, yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

Yeah, some it's either gonna be a decision or it's gonna be a knockout, and like the decision, I don't know, like you're kind of just leaving it up to people's opinion, and any sport that ends with your opinion is not a good sport.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

Yeah, you know what I do enjoy watching every once in a while, though, is uh a Brazilian jujitsu. Yeah, like every once in a while it'll show up on like my feed. Um, and I find it really cool because like you're like, oh, that guy's fucked, and then like the guy's like somebody comes in, like doing some commentary, and I'm like, you know, you thought this guy is fucked, but actually the other one is, and then you see why, and that you get an explanation, and I think it's pretty cool. Like, I don't know, I think that's interesting, just seeing how like they can just be really calm, they're in a pretzel, like suffocating, and they're they're like totally in the moment and calm and just reverse everything. Like, I don't know how yeah, that I think that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

Jiu-Jitsu as a martial art in general is a pretty cool one. Yeah, I feel like it's the one that's most like applicable to people in their everyday lives. Like just if someone were to like gr like I'm a little tiny guy, so if someone were to grab me, I would just flail. Yeah. Yeah, I'd throw confetti at him for my pockets.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

You should just carry around like pockets of confetti dicks. Oh my god. I only have like glitter dicks and throw grow throw those at them. Like, stay away from me. I'll dick you. Bless you. Um did you see uh did you see that video of the San Francisco mayor and his bodyguard like get attacked, and his bodyguard just gets like tossed to the ground? And the San Francisco mayor doesn't do anything in the video. He's just like casually walking, like he doesn't see his bodyguard getting fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

No, I did not see that.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

I'll have to check that out. Yeah, he could use some jujitsu classes. Yeah, check that video out. All right. Um, I wanted to get into the WNBA. We were talking about it last night at dinner, and um, it's something I complain about in my brain quite often because I just don't understand what's happening there. So um they've been in these negotiations, right? Uh, the players association with the league for over, I think, a year and a half now, and they want a bigger cut of the revenue. And uh so we really came close to a strike. Uh I don't know why I keep saying we, they really came close to a strike. You and all them bitches, yeah. Yeah. Uh but um, like they reached a deal, no strike, season is on, so great. But they almost shut the whole thing down. Um, but I think a lot of it was about seeing how much leverage the players actually have, and I don't know if they realize it, but they don't have much leverage because they don't make any goddamn money. Um, so uh, you know, I just don't I don't get it. What do you want? You want more money of not you want more of a percentage of nothing? Yeah. So is that what you want?

SPEAKER_03 43:14

I want to be clear when we start this conversation. This is not we're not even talking about like male versus female pay gap. We're not that's not what this is. Well, that's what I'm saying. So when they use that, when they use that as an argument, it's a failed argument already. That doesn't really apply to sports because you get paid on the amount of revenue that you generate. For those people that don't know, the WNBA is subsidized by the NBA. They already don't make any money on their own. The NBA gives them a couple million dollars a year to have a league at all.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

Not not a couple million, 10 to 15.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

10 to 15 million? Yes. Yeah, right. I guess that's in terms of Terms of like a sports league that's a couple, but yeah, right. Ten to fifteen million. I mean, like, you know, they they because they make hundreds of millions. I think I think um the NFL are now is the most profitable league. I think the the NBA is second. Um, but they're both nonprofit organizations, make that make sense, anyways. I digress. They uh yeah, so the WNBA like already can't support themselves, they're supported by the NBA. So if they actually make a bigger percentage in their league than like LeBron James does. Right. When you break when you look when you break it down according to revenue and like what the profit share is, they make more. So you want more. I I got I just I don't I don't understand. What you should be worrying about is marketing to people to come to your games. Right. Well, they want more of nothing. Because they're making nothing. It's like the same thing that Megan Rapino tried to do with soccer.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

I just want to do uh so I do want to say, because I want to be fair, the league's growing, and but they're nowhere near where they can be demanding more money and and revenue sharing because they don't make any fucking revenue. Um but so um the NBA is a $10 billion league. The WNBA makes a couple hundred million, two to three. That's a couple, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

But my thing is which really annoys the fuck out of me is you've got Caitlin Clark coming in two seasons ago, and people just start watching, right? And what do the WNBA players do? Treat her like dog shit.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

Yes, yes. I just cannot wrap my head around this. People are watching your sport because now there's someone who can make baskets. Like, they like there's never been a player in the history of the WNBA that makes as many threes if she's only two seasons in. Right. So I don't get it. Like somebody watch with the sport now. But what I don't understand is when women gang up and say, like, oh yeah, they're not, it's not fair, they're not getting paid as much. Well, it's because you don't go to the games. Like, like, I if I if we had an NBA team here at Buffalo, I'd go. Like, I because I have a team, and that's my team. We have our thing. Don't get there's more Bill Burr's point on this is the right one. There's more women in the world than there are men, yet the WNBA is struggling much more than the NBA.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Why? Well, it's because I this is what I think.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

So you got you get Caitlin Clark coming into the league, viewership just skyrockets, prices of tickets skyrocket. Everybody starts cheat uh treating her like garbage and uh uh talking shit about her, and like I don't know, like she has to telling her she has to understand her privilege being a white person in a black space or whatever the fuck? I don't know. Um all this nonsense, and it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Like now, guess what you've just did to the people who were watching? They don't want to anymore because you're treating somebody that they wanted to watch like shit.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

What's the what's the old saying? Like a rising tide lifts all boats. How about you shut the fuck up and I don't know, show some gratitude to this girl who's single-handedly saving your fucking league.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

Yeah, it's one thing if you if you're like you know playing aggressive D, guarding her, cool, do that. But you're just like you're like Angel Reese. One of the reasons nobody can stand her is because she's vocal about how it's not just Caitlin Clark that's making the league exciting, it's me too. No, it's not. Yeah, the only reason anybody cares about you is because we can make a ton of money betting that you'll miss your first shot every game, and it's almost a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

Oh shit. Also, yeah, like there's nothing exciting about you missing your shots and getting your own goddamn rebounds.

SPEAKER_03 48:28

Yeah, it's actually sad, it's really sad to watch. Um, but like that's that's what it is. Anytime we're like, this happens all the time. We're on our fishing trip in Canada. After you know, the the evening's over, we're just kind of relaxing, we'll flip through TV, see what's on. And it's it's Canadian networks, right? So they don't have a ton of American sports or anything. Like, they don't they don't have a lot of American shows either. So sometimes all that's on is Canadian football or the WNBA. And so it's always a toss-up. Uh well, we we we think it's a toss-up, but then my brother just chimes in and they're like, I'd rather watch Canadian football than a bunch of missed layups. I'm like, it's kind of true. And it's it's not just me being an asshole. Look at the statistics. I encourage you to go look at the stats on missed shots. It's an incredible, it's incredible. Now, you could say, well, maybe they don't have as many resources for training, and that might be true. There's probably some validity to that. But you know who changed the script on that was Caitlin Clark. She didn't, you know, she has the same facilities in the Women's March Madness, same facilities as the rest of the women. She makes all of her three-pointers. What it comes down to is reps. She practiced harder than everyone else.

SPEAKER_01 49:44

Yeah. But here's my you know, like, so there are WNBA games pulling half a million viewers. Guess how many the Little League World Series is pulling? Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 50:02

What was the WNBA number? Half a million. I think the Little League World Series is like at least five. Three to four. Yeah, okay. Right around there.

SPEAKER_01 50:11

Three to four. Um, all right, now Caitlin Clark's uh college game, 18 million viewers, bigger than some NBA finals, and she's bringing that fucking attention to your goddamn league, and you want to treat her like trash?

SPEAKER_03 50:31

Dude, that was more than turning point USA.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

Yeah. Kid Rock should have he should have limp uh lip synced that shit. Um I don't know. I I just don't understand. Have some gratitude. Like the other thing about Caitlin Clark is like she's humble, she doesn't throw it in your face. Yeah, she's a fucking competitor. When she's on the floor, she'll talk some shit to you, but that's what you're supposed to do. Talk shit. But you're not supposed to treat people like garbage, you're not supposed to like intentionally flagrant foul them. You're not supposed to like be like, you're not supposed to other people. That's the that's what they did to her. They othered her, and it's like I just don't understand it. Like, why would you want to do this? Like, now I don't want to watch your fucking week. I I hope it fails.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

Yeah. I hope it sucks, though, man.

SPEAKER_01 51:33

Caitlin will be alright.

SPEAKER_03 51:35

Yeah. But like Caitlin Clark, she like gave a whole generation of kids like a whole an idea that they like could be a professional athlete and do well. And these these other girls are taking that away from those kids. Like, I don't know, man. You really think about it, any sport, right? That's why the the NFL gets so involved in you know, like the charity events and the boot camps that they do for kids and all that. So they're trying to do is ensure that they have a future in the sport. You get kids involved in football now, the like the likelihood increases that they'll want to pursue it. Um, and that's not just revenue for them, for the NFL, that's it make a huge economic benefit. You know the single day a year most TVs are purchased? The day before the Super Bowl. Exactly. It's the day before the Super Bowl. I was right. You were right. It is that's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 52:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 52:31

The day before the Super Bowl is the largest day for television sales. So that's that that sport has a huge impact on our economy. So we could.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

What do you mean? I don't understand. Like you don't have a TV, and now you're like, oh wait, the Super Bowl. I I didn't watch the whole season, but I'm watching the Super Bowl. What's going on?

SPEAKER_03 52:51

There's a lot of people that might have they're gonna be having a party and they want a new TV. Okay, right.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

See, I don't want to have a party, so that's I don't understand that, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 53:00

Yeah, and I guess the way I should phrase it, that's a single day of the year that has the highest TV sales. Not most TVs are purchased on that day, but the the largest day for sales is that. Right. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you know, there's an economic benefit to that to the whole country. And so if you can make your sport better and worthwhile and and worth watching, there would be people that would be interested in having a get together for the WMBA finals, and that's just all it's all part of it, right? The Super Bowl's a big event. I actually think someone should try to make it a national holiday, to be honest. Um, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

I'm sli what's going on. I'm sliding. I'm like sliding this way, like all of a sudden my office is at an angle, and I'm just going like my chair's going like this. I don't know what's happening. Are you okay, baby girl? No, that was it's not. I just like I just felt myself like just slowly moving to the left.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

Yeah, I thought for a second you were on the Titanic and it was going down.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Man, I wish. God.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

Yeah. You're on the Titan, it's about to implode.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

Oh man. Uh Kim. Since you just mentioned that, um what a sad thing. Let me say first off, is it what a hang on? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. A bunch of people were murdered or killed, right? Because some douchebag. Yeah, I don't want I don't want anyone to because some douchebag was like, oh yeah, like I can duct tape this submarine together, it'll be fine. And they were convinced, like they were convinced by it.

SPEAKER_03 54:56

I think that I think the Titan would have done a lot better if duct tape was used. That fixes everything. Yes. Uh you're right. Um their problem was they tried to use metal and rivets by kill losers.

SPEAKER_01 55:11

Uh yeah. They well, they probably had a bunch of Marine Corps command uh mechanics put it together. That's what happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Well, the first mistake, like, if I'm if I'm walking up about to get into a submersible and go very far down, I do not want the main uh driving device device to be a PlayStation controller. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

Oh no, you know, um, a lot of uh our submarines uh do that. What? Yes. So um they realized like instead of like this like hundred thousand dollar like apparatus, they could just kind of plug in like a a console controller and it does the same exact thing. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 56:05

So when you're just like in park on that submarine, you can just start playing NBA jams?

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Yes. Don't ban those jams. That's what don't ban those jams. No, not just we're trying to ban. No. Wrong jams. Uh, but I might I could get behind um jarred jam banning that.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

You want to ban you wanna ban jam? But I can't I can't ban red pepper jam.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

I just I I I could live without it. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 56:39

I could live without it.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Yeah, somebody could convince me they like to get behind that.

SPEAKER_03 56:47

But like on a brie? Like on a baked brie?

SPEAKER_01 56:52

What are you doing at home? What? Enjoying things. You're just baking brie and putting jam on it?

SPEAKER_03 57:06

Here's what you do you get your puff pastry, okay? You lay that you lay that bitch out clean. All right. You get you put down your red pepper jam in the circle in the middle, you put the brie on top, and then you fold up the puff pastry, flip it, bake it 300 degrees, about 10 minutes, get that shit nice and melty, get out some very thick crackers. They have to be they have to have a lot of structural integrity to handle this bitch. And you get in there and you have a nice time.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Can I ask you a question? Is this like a snack for you?

SPEAKER_03 57:43

No, this is if I'm if I'm going to perhaps a dinner party, right? And I have to bring something, perhaps an appetizer. That's that's I like to bring that. Really?

SPEAKER_01 57:54

If you brought if if I eventually had a party and you brought that, I'd be mad at you. Well, yeah, but I know you. I'd be like, what the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_03 58:05

So I what I would bring to your place would be like, oh, maybe a few varieties of different like shrimp skewers. Like I would do like a fried shrimp, but also like maybe like a barbecue shrimp. And I would maybe also do like uh like a chili lime shrimp with a crema on top.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

All right.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

Yeah, you got you gotta know your audience, man.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

Yeah, you're right. I like to eat, but I don't want to I don't want to spend my time like making the meal.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

I don't want to spend my time making snacks.

SPEAKER_03 58:43

Yeah, I mean, yeah, there are some snacks that like get in the way of your day.

SPEAKER_01 58:49

Yeah, like I I don't uh yeah if I want if I want something baked, I'll make some pizza rolls.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

Oh my god, give me a start on pizza rolls. Let's go. Right. Pizza logs?

SPEAKER_01 59:05

Yeah, yeah, I've seen pizza logs. Yeah, yeah. Those are good. Um what I have done before is make my meatballs, make them really tiny. Uh like just like bite size. Um, and those are those are a hit. Oh, they're the phenomenal. Yeah, those are the best meatballs I've ever had. They're good meatballs. I I appreciate that compliment.

unknown 59:26

I love that.

SPEAKER_03 59:27

You know, no, I mean I mean it sincerely. Um, I think I still have your little uh the your little recipe card you wrote me.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Oh, that's sweet. You should frame it.

SPEAKER_03 59:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:36

I can't. I have to use it. Well, if you frame it and then hang it in your kitchen, you can use it any day you like. Oh my god, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 59:48

Yeah. Can you sign it that way, that way, if you like, if you die, it'll be worth something? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

Sure. What are you planning over there? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. All right. So we gotta get into things I ate. We're actually kind of we're actually kind of on time today, so this is pretty good. Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

Stupid rants we went on, and we're still on time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:21

I know. We're on we're on point. We're fucking clutch. Yeah. We're like, we're like functioning alcoholics.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

They're clutch. That's that's what we are.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:31

Yeah. Um you don't have a things you hate a thing you hate this week. Oh, I thought I just added one. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:37

I do have a thing I hate.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:38

Oh, you do? Oh, I have to do that. Oh, I'm there.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:41

I didn't refresh. The thing I hate, Logan and Jake Paul. Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

I fucking hate these guys. They are so full of themselves, they are so annoying. Like, Jake Paul fought uh Mike Tyson. Yeah, and you could clearly see that the whole thing was staged and set up. Mike Tyson had no interest, he just got paid his $45 million and went home. Absolutely. Like, but then he runs around talking about how, like, oh, I beat Mike Tyson. First of all, it's 55 years old. Secondly, if he tried, he would still beat your ass. These guys are so annoying to me. Logan Paul, so you might not know, they just had this whole event. Um, it was like the uh former NFL players that did uh like flag football, or they were on this weekend. Um, it actually was pretty cool. It's it's cool to see like different players from different teams, past and present, that there's maybe some retired, like still you know throwing it around or whatever, and they're all still amazing athletes. It was cool to watch. For some reason, Logan Paul is there too. And I he's at a podcast several months ago before all of this, he was talking shit to Tom Brady, like like Logan Paul is better at football than Tom Brady is. Or that, like, oh, you guys aren't really even that athletic. I am more athletic because I'm on YouTube. Like, first of all, fuck your face. Get out of here with that non-like, it's just so it's number one super disrespectful. I don't like Tom Brady at all. Let me rephrase this. I don't like New England Tom Brady. Florida Tom is awesome. Uh it's he's totally different than New England Tom.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:26

Florida Tom is great. Florida Tom, Tampa Bay Tom is okay. If he was Miami Tom, you might have a problem.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

Well, depends how much Coke he did. Anyways. Sorry, avocado Coke. The um his uh, yeah, but he's like talking shit to Tom Brady about like NFL players aren't like as athletic, so it's like not a big deal for him to play in the NFL. He could just do it tomorrow. And Tom Brady is just telling him, like, I think you are a great athlete. You can't just play in the NFL tomorrow. Like, that's not how this works. Just trying to set him straight a little bit, but he keeps jawing off to him about it. I'm like, dude, shut up! Like, my God, these these morons, all they do is go on all the sorts of shit just for clickbait. They love it. They they it's I gotta collect my thoughts. They infuriate me. I I think they are so annoying. They add nothing to anyone's lives, including their own mothers, and I just I I can't get I can't escape these losers. So then he's in the flag football game and he gets an interception from a like a bad throw because of trying the his team was getting killed. He's trying to squeeze a ball in there, Logan picks it up, and then he runs up to Tom Brady and gets in his face about it. Dude, this is a charity event, and the only one taking this seriously is you, and that's why you're a loser.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:54

Yeah. Um, can I I'd like to make a confession? I don't think wait, it's it's Jake and Logan, Paul.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:07

Yes, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

I have to make a confession. I don't think I could tell them apart. The only thing I know about those two is they're just like a couple of JOs. But that's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:19

Yes, you have it. It doesn't matter if you know who they are, like it like it makes no difference because they are both awful. Like, imagine Tyra Banks. But white dudes. Just horrible, horrible people. They add nothing to anyone's life. They are just awful. And I want them both to be kicked firmly in the nads by Messi.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

By Messi? Like the Loch Ness.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:54

By Lionel Messi.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

Oh, I thought you meant the Loch Ness monster. Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:59

If it's got a stronger kick than Lionel Messi, which I seriously doubt.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:05

Like, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:07

Uh I need yes. The next time they're in Scotland, I need them and this to happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:13

You know what I do? I so I don't I still couldn't tell them apart, but what I do know is that their YouTube movies sucked.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

Yeah. Because they suck. The only reason they're relevant is because they will go up to Tom Brady and talk shit to him like he's a bitch, and they'll get clicks. And it's it's so disingenuous. They're losers and they're morons, and they make a fuck ton of money being losers and morons. Nobody likes you. Everyone that watched that fight with Mike Tyson is because they wanted to see Jake Paul's ass get beaten because it can happen. Right. Mike Tyson could easily rip that dude to shreds. But he didn't for money. Good for him. He didn't get his face beat in, and he got $45 million. No shade against Mike Tyson. If he ever hears this, Mike Tyson, just calm down. Everything's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:12

Yeah, he will fuck you up, too.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:14

Yeah. I was going to bring his tiger.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:18

Unless you have your pockets filled with glitter dicks, then you might have a stand a chance.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:24

But yeah. Side note on all of this, we have a letterboard in our house that Sam um sometimes will let me write a message on. She always assumes I'm going to write some sort of like festive message. The only thing I have ever done with this letterboard is a Mike Tyson quote that he absolutely did not say. But I spell it out with the Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

Oh, uh oh, I actually I know what you're talking about. The letterboard. Yes, I've seen these during football season. But you said something interesting. Sometimes Sam will let you write a message. What do you mean? Sometimes she'll let you.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

Every once in a while, she would like when we lived in our apartment, this was a big thing. If it was a season, she would do some. Okay. So it's like getting close to Halloween. She would use the letterboard and write something like this kitchen's filled with a bunch of hocus pocus.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:23

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:25

But then I would change it. When we get closer to Christmas, I would change it to Merry Christmas, children. Mike Tyson.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

Okay. All right. Okay, I understand. But with the THs.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:37

Yeah. Right now, it's up here, right now. And it says, we're going to the Super Bowl. Mike Tyson.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Mike Tyson. Alright. Wow. You know what's so funny? Now we're now we're not on time anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:00

Sorry. It needed to be said.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:02

We were doing great.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:04

The listener that we have is going to love that segment. Because I promise you they hate Logan and Jake Paul too. And if you don't, unsubscribe.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:12

Well, our only listener is my mom, and she loves Jake Paul.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:17

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:18

Um, all right. Things I hate. Um fucking bumper stickers.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

Yeah, here we go.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:26

Fucking bumper stickers. Like, I just don't understand why like why do you have to why does your car have to be a moving advertisement for the things you like and dislike? What like do you really need to tell me? And I imagine, since you're the type of person who puts bumper stickers on your fucking car, that you have no problem telling people about the things you like and dislike. You probably can't keep your fat mouth shut about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

So what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:03

Like I completely agree with this.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:05

Don't need to know that you supported Gore Lieberman. Don't need to know that um, you know, you like hot dogs. I don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

There is one bumper sticker that I have ever seen that I liked. One ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:26

It said, Officer, I'm only speeding because I really have to poop.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:32

Well, that's not even that's not even like an opinion. That's like, hey, just letting you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

Yeah, I loved it. I thought it was great. It was hilarious. Every other bumper sticker sucks. Do not tell me to read the Bible one more goddamn time, you lunatic.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:49

I mean, it couldn't hurt. I'm just saying, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:59

I'm not gonna do it. Stop telling me to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:01

Every time I see one of those coexist bumper stickers, I'm like, this person would never want to have a conversation with me. They like that that person with a coexist bumper sticker will call would call me a Nazi and a white supremacist. Yeah? Yeah. I yeah, yeah, I guarantee you. I'd be like, yeah, like, like I I I think you should be able to own a gun and uh smoke weed and put on a dress, and they'd be like, you fucking Nazi guns? I'm like, did you hear the other two? Fuck. Do what you want. That's that's what I'm saying. Do what you want. You're a Nazi, fucking white supremacist. All right, so if I get called MAGA constantly online, and then I get called a Lib Tard constantly online, and I'm just like Which one is it? Could we get all of you in a room so you could discuss and agree on what kind of thing I am today? But anyway, bumper sticker. My least favorite bumper sticker is the who rescued who question mark bumper sticker.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:24

Oh you mean you're telling me you don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:31

You don't know who rescued who. Spoiler fucking alert. You didn't rescue anybody, and there was a comedian that made jokes about this, and I'll you can ask anyone who's ever heard me ramp about this before. I said this before that comedian. You didn't rescue that dog or fucking cat. You didn't. You went into a place where it was having a great time, eating food whatever it wants, wasn't on the street, and you took it home. You fucking adopted it. You didn't run into a burning building, you didn't save it from fucking drowning. It wasn't about to be in a boxing match with Jake fucking tall.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:19

You didn't rescue that goddamn cat.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:24

You were like, oh well, look how cute this thing is. Um I want to take it home. Here's $75. Sure, I'll make sure it gets neutered.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:35

No, you won't. Um oh my god. It's true, yeah. It's not it's not like the ship was going down and you grabbed the dog, right? Swam it to safety. Yeah. It is true. That's good, it is a good point. But could you imagine who rescued who? Like the dog went to the SPCA and there's just a bunch of humans in the kennels just crawling around. The dog's like, I'll have that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:02

And then while as they're walking out, the dog's like, can you drive? Here's the keys.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

Yeah, yeah, here's the keys. They weigh 11 pounds.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

Hallback. Nice, nice. Um, yeah, I just think bumper stickers are really stupid. The people who um like have like 40,000 bumper stickers on their car, those are the people you want to avoid at all costs. Don't get into a conversation with them, yes, don't lend them any sugar. Just avoid them completely.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:44

Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:47

Uh I I don't even really have much to say because that that's just that's just right. If they have a thousand well, if they have a thousand bumper stickers on this car on their cars, two things. Either extremely opinionated, opinionated, don't get into a conversation with them, or they're a hippie and definitely get into a conversation with them.

unknown 1:14:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:05

But the risk is not worth the reward. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

Don't fucking do it. They smell like patchouli. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:13

Yeah, they smell like patchouli and bad decisions.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

So uh I think it was like, I don't know, fuck. It must have been I don't remember. I was living in Columbus, and it must have been 2019 or something. And I went to visit um friends and family in Pittsburgh. And um, it was right in the middle of the uh like the campaign. Um and uh like they are all like Trump supporters, like diehard Trump supporters. Um, and I remember just arguing about a bunch of stuff that I didn't like about Trump and um and how I thought Trump was gonna destroy the GOP and uh split the Republican Party, uh make the country more divided, um, or at least not him being responsible for that, but lead to the division because of the pushback and the pendulum swing on the Democratic side.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:18

Um you were all right about.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:22

Right. I was absolutely right about this. Um, and uh so I'm saying saying our goodbyes, you know, I'm dry, I'm gonna be driving back to Columbus, and the you know, everybody's like in a really good mood and everything. You know, it was a great visit. Um driving back, everybody is honking at me. Everyone honk, everyone is honking at me. People are driving by giving me the finger. And I'm like, what the fuck is what am I doing on the road? Right? Um, so I get home and I swear it like it like it must have been like five or six people like honking and giving me the finger, and like 30 or 40 cars just honking at me while they're driving by. I get I get home and I'm like, I have no idea what the fuck is going on. So I walk around my car to see if there's something wrong with my car. There's a trump, trump bumper sticker on my fucking car. Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:32

So you're telling me during your visit, someone just had a few spare bumper stickers. Oh, yeah, they did. I have two things about this. I think it is wild the amount of merchandise that guy has been able to sell, uh, which is another, I just don't I don't know. I just it it it irks me that a president uh markets himself in such a way that there are actual stores for just his like sayings. And ah man, I just like it. It's a weird, it's such a weird thing to me. Because there is literally in North Tonawana, New York, right adjacent to where I live, on the corner, there is a Trump store, which I think is a horrible business decision because he's not gonna be the president forever. That's not that you can't carry on that business. Could you imagine selling Trump shit in 2038?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:34

Yeah, but you can well, no, he's running for president in 2028, so it's fine.

unknown 1:17:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:41

What do you mean? Uh yeah. Once he fixes like once he's wild, fixes all the elections, he's in. Yeah. He's yeah, well, yeah. Well, because then it'll be easy. Why are you thinking you don't have to he arrested Maduro? He needed advice, he needed campaign advice.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:01

Yeah, for sure. And then you don't have to launch 60 investigations into an election that was accurate, you know, free and fair, and then lose all of those cases. You know, you don't have to do any of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:13

Yeah, when you win 99.7% of the vote, what what's there to investigate? Obviously.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:22

Yeah, you might as well not even look into it.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:24

You might as well give up as soon as you hit 51%.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:27

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:27

Um anywho. Uh yeah, so like I think he's a marketing genius, right? Like, I don't like him as a president at all. You know this. Our listener knows this.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:42

Uh yeah, I don't think at all. I don't think at all. The Jones Act. We were talking about this the other day. The Jones Act, explain this one to me. The uh here, let me look it up because I'm gonna say it all wrong.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:59

All right, well, while while you're looking that up, I think that um in in terms of like getting people to follow, right, the marketing aspect, absolute genius, right? Quick phrases make America great again. Um, like, you know, build a wall. You know, there's thing after thing that he's able to market. Nobody knows what it actually means because it doesn't mean anything. There is no plan behind any of it. It's just like, let's just we just are able to say these things, we can sell merch, people wear the merch, other people see the merch, and we, you know, you're able to get the kind of votes in that way. It is an absolute, like, he's an absolute marketing genius. Yeah. I mean, he was that way like well before his political career with The Apprentice, like unbelievable on on that show.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:55

Yeah, I I everybody is like, he's uh, you know, such a dumb person. I I think he's an extremely smart human being.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:04

Uh I don't know if I'd go that far. Um, I don't think he understands almost anything about our government or economics, but um Um You I you only say that because you don't like him. Uh I I No No, I I I I say that I say that because he very clearly doesn't know what a tariff actually is.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:27

Of course he knows what a tariff is. Of course he knows what a tariff is. He's got a different, there's uh like 30 different schools, like when it comes to economics and tariffs and theory behind it, and he he is on one that you're not. There are multiple people like who are much smarter than both of us that actually think what he's doing with his tariff or he was doing with his tariff policy is good for the country. I I mean, sure. I just because you disagree with it doesn't mean he doesn't know what it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:10

Well, I don't it's not can we just be it's not no, I I'm I'm being fair. It's not that I just disagree. Tariffs do two things they can either drive revenue for your country or they can bring manufacturing back to your country, but they cannot do both simultaneously. That is a that is like economic fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:30

There are people who believe you're wrong. Sure. And they're they're really and they're actually smarter people than both of us. Like they've gone to school far longer. They they're they actually work in like some sort of job that has something to do with the economy. Like they just have a different theory about this. I like my thing is is like I just like can we just be like honest intellectually about this? Like, like I don't want to spend 30 minutes arguing with you about this. I just I just like my whole thing is is I don't think the tariffs are good either. Like, we've talked about this a bunch of times, but also I I know the president knows what a tariff is and how they affect things.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:19

Can I ask you a question seriously, though? How do you know he knows what it is?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:24

Because how do you know? Because he has a brain, and I know what a tariff is. Sure, but I I think that's how I know. Because he's the president of the United States.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:34

That's why I don't think that inherently gives you knowledge into how that works.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:39

No, no, no. I think like you have to have some sort of knowledge about tariffs and the economy and everything to be one a successful billion like billionaire.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:51

I mean, I see I think that that's that's where I'll push back, though, because it's not like it's not like he started from nothing and became a billionaire.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:00

All right, he was given a billion dollars to say. How many people win three hundred million dollars on the lottery, and where are they today? Well, that's completely different.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:13

Because if you it is, but I'll tell you why. I I'll tell you why. If you win the lottery, you don't make good decisions because if you did, you wouldn't be playing the lottery to begin with. Oh, that's not, but that's not that's not fair. I mean, I think that it I mean it's neither here nor there.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:33

Just because you have just because you have a huge amount of money doesn't mean you're gonna be smart with it. Like if you know sure, sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:42

I I I agree. I think winning a billion dollars is a lot different than being given a billion dollars when you live with a billionaire. Like that's that's different because you understand a little bit more and you have a lot more resources, right? People that win, you know, people from a trailer park that win a million dollars don't know what to do with that money because they don't have resources. What I'm trying to explain, what I'm trying to explain is everything that I learned in my economics degree is the opposite of how tariffs are being used. Now, are there going to be people that are definitely smarter than me? First of all, yeah, that's a very low bar declaration. Uh but I I the problem with economics in in general is that there's very little fact and there's a lot of theory because things can still happen. There's a ton, there's a trillion variables that happen within a market, with what's going on in the world, all of that. In my viewpoint, I do not I absolutely see the difference between driving revenue for your country and bringing manufacturing back to your country. And I absolutely see why when you follow the trails, they cannot happen simultaneously. It's either one or the other. Because if you want to drive manufacturing back to your country, what you actually do is lower tariffs because it incentivizes your manufacturing to come back here because the companies have to be able to afford manufacturing here. So you if you want to drive manufacturing, you have to actually lower tariffs. And Milton Friedman is Milton Friedman is the one who said this, and he is like your the cornerstone economic uh economist of our time.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:19

Yeah, Milton Friedman is my favorite economist of all time. He's my favorite intellectual of all time.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:26

Yes, he's awesome. Uh, this is his theory. And so and so, you know, if you raise tariffs, that can drive a lot of revenue for a country. It doesn't have to be a bad thing, but it does make everything in your country more expensive. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:40

So to me what what is happening here is like you're explaining economic theory, right? Yeah. When there are other people who have other economic theories, right? And our president obviously subscribes to a different one than you do. Sure. However, let me push back on this again.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:05

What's currently happening?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:07

You just want what what is currently happening?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:10

No manufacturing is moving back to the United States, and things are more expensive. So after his tariff, what's happening?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:19

But my theory has turned out to be more correct than his what his proposed one was.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:26

Yes. But that doesn't prove that he doesn't know what a tariff is.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:35

I feel like it does.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:36

No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. I feel like it does. No, it doesn't. Because as many people as that agree with his like theory and the way he wanted to use it, as many people that says he's right about it, there's just as many that disagree with that. So to me, that's a wash. I don't care how many people agree with him. I I think that there is when you're talking about this, it's really it's not really theory. There's only one way that this both interacts.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:58

My point is isn't who's right and who's wrong proves who knows what a tariff is. He knows what a tariff is. He just subscribes to different tariff theory than you do. I mean, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:20

I do think it's incorrect tariff theory.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:22

But that's but that's the argument we we're having, whether he knows what it is or not.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:27

Uh yeah, but I I I think that if you subscribe to an incorrect theory, that means you don't really understand it.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:35

That's not no, that's not that's that's not how theories work.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:41

They have to play out.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:42

That's what so this is what makes economics difficult. They have to play because there are a lot of things that are proved right or wrong. Yeah, but with with so there's only like three different times in history of the United States that we've increased tariffs to that amount, and all of it has ended up in recession, every time. Right. So you start to learn why this is happening. It's because it drives inflation, increases inflation. And it must because things are more expensive to import. Okay. Right? Like that has to happen. We know that that is a fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:16

But none of this is an arc, my arc. None of this is my argument.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:21

I'll get there. Yes. And so if you decide then that we're going to incentivize manufacturing to come back to the United States by raising tariffs, and there's these five econom uh five economists that agree that will work, and they're all wrong because it's never worked in history, it could still be a theory. You can call it a theory, but it's incorrect, which means those people and him don't actually understand how it works.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:47

Do you agree that markets, the way things, the way markets respond, the way people respond to markets, um, and the way they are ordered in the economy has changed from 50, 100 years ago?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:12

Um yes, but I don't think the president has any direct impact on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:18

No, no, no. I'm not no no, I'm not saying he has any direct impact on it, but could someone look at the um the economic like outlook, like the whole thing, all the markets, how things are arranged, what's going on, what's driving things nowadays, and say, well, I've developed a new theory about tariffs based on what I'm seeing.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:48

Um, I mean, it's because I suppose our economy it would be specific, it would be very specific to the variable they're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:56

But our economy is very different than it was 50 years ago. The global economy is very different than it was 50, 100 years ago. So somebody could have a good point here. Hey, I've got an idea. Let's test it out. This is my theory.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:13

Uh so you have a good point. Things absolutely do change over time. The thing that has never changed is imports and exports. Like, you know, they might they might be faster. So like the the transport time, right? And then like the cost of that might be different, but that's never changed.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:27

But what I'm saying is the other variables may change based on those imports and exports and the way driven revenue is being driven and how.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:39

So yeah, but really what you're talking about is a is a different variable, not not the concept of tariffs itself.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:46

Well, it's all the you're absolutely right. But also what I'm saying is there are here's these variables, and yeah, those variables have changed. So now somebody says, you know what, because the thing has changed, maybe it will respond differently to tariffs.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:10

Um, yeah, I guess it's potentially possible.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:13

Um, but I'm not saying they're right. I'm just saying why can't they develop a different theory and then some and somebody say, you know what, I agree with you. You explained that very well. Um, all right, so let's let's give it a shot. That doesn't mean I don't think it doesn't mean they don't know what tariffs are.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:32

Yeah, the reason I don't think so, though, is because it's still the the it's about plus and minus, right? Adding tariffs and then lowering them as has an adverse result. So the variables can definitely change in the case. In the past sort of change the theory a little bit, but in the past, it's just in the past it's the same thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:52

No, what I'm saying is in the past though, you're saying if we look at history, this is how things are gonna work. What I'm saying is somebody said, forget history. The economy isn't structured like that anymore, it's structured differently, and I think tariffs, the economy will respond differently to tariffs than it did 50 years ago. That guy still knows what tariffs are.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:22

I I see what you're saying, and no, I don't think there has been any change because I'll explain why. Um because the the the price of imports goes up. They're not going to eat the foreign country's not going to eat the cost of that because they want to make money too. And they pass that cost on to the end user.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:41

I understand the very, very small, simple thing that tariffs do. That that like what you're explaining. But what I'm saying is there is a ripple effect because they do this small little thing. There's a ripple effect across the economy. And because the economy is structured differently, somebody might say, you know what? It does it doesn't do what we think it does, it what it doesn't do what it did 50 years ago. Yes, it might inc increase prices here, but because of the market structure is here, it will do X instead of doing Y like it would have done 50 years ago. That's what I'm saying. Like our because our economy is absolutely structured differently than it was 50, 100 years ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:33

Yeah, the economy as a whole, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:35

Yeah, it as a whole. So what I'm saying is somebody may have developed a theory, right? And say, you know what, tariffs will increase costs here, but it will even out or it will do this, this, and this further down the line. That's my theory. That just because just because he has a different theory and doesn't agree that the effects will be the same as 50 years ago doesn't mean he doesn't know what tariffs are. That's my argument here.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:06

Yeah, I guess that could be possible. And that's hypothetical. Yeah, that could be possible.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:10

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:10

But I guess what I guess maybe I'm not articulating it well. I I guess I'm not articulating it well. But no, the the the bare minimum concept does not change. So I agree with that. You could you could have a you could have like a a theory that you know, so for example, what you're saying, right? So if we increase tariffs here, we need to cut taxes for the US people here, so we can level it out, right? That's a good theory, but that's not what happened either. I'm talking about what happened, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:46

No, but so what you're saying is you're basing your economic theory on the past.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:54

No, no, no, no, no. I'm basing on my economic theory. Well, I'm basing my economic theory about on my education in economics.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:01

Like it's very different. And your education on economics is based on how economic theory has been proved right and wrong throughout history. Sure. It has it has. I mean, yeah, it has. Yeah. Yeah. And what I'm saying is the guy knows uh whoever comes up with a theory and says, I know what tariffs are, this is this is what tariffs are gonna do in the immediate. But the downstream effects based on what the economy looks like today will be different than in the past. The person still knows what tariffs are.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:46

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:47

I don't know, man. I like that then if he if he truly knows what they are and what they do, then why is every uh decision that has to do with tariffs then a bad one? Bad for the US, right? Because it's a bad increases inflation.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:01

Because it's a bad theory. We both agree on that. Yeah, but if you understood what a tariff is, you would know that's a bad theory. No, that's my point. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:11

Oh, I think you would.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:13

No, I think it's that simple. You're not understanding what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:17

I I'm I'm understanding what you're saying, but you're you're talking about a guy that has a bad theory. And you use the term bad theory. There's a reason you say it's a bad theory is because we watched prove, because we could have proved before that it was a good theory if we did things that were not that theory.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:31

Because we watched it play out.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:34

Yeah, but I we knew that. Like, like we knew my friends from college, we all knew that that's exactly how it's gonna play out.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:39

Well, we haven't even really seen any effects from the tariffs all that much. What do you mean? What do you mean? The stock the stock market's still doing incredible, right? So the stock market is not at hold. Yeah, we have seen increases in prices, but everybody was everybody was like, uh, you're you're 401k, like, sorry, it's gonna be gone in six months, it's gonna be gone. And we saw basically nothing happening because nobody knew what the fuck to expect at all.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:14

All right. So the the the deal with Canada, he kept blaming Biden about like what a terrible deal that was. He actually it actually was a very good deal that's Trump brokered in his first term. Very good deal. We only they like we didn't that didn't need to change at all. All we did was piss off another country for absolutely no reason. They um like I agree, yeah. Like it's all we did, and it's not there's no net benefit there. So we're using a tariff, not even for the two ways that we could use a tariff, you're doing it for literally no gain. And so, like, to me, number one, tariffs Greenland, it's no one even there. There's no imports there. What are we doing? Like that it's that that's nonsense to me as well. I think if you wanted to generate revenue, I think that's a noble thing to try to do to attack the deficit, but the deficit has only gone up. And so, like, so we're not accomplishing anything there. That inflation is rising, and you're not combating that with lowering taxes, you're actually increasing them for the middle class. So, to me, this guy doesn't understand economics at all. Because all of these are bad decisions, and we know that because based having an education in economics, like we could see we knew exactly how that was going to play out, and it played out exactly how we thought. All right, sure. So, like what like what you're saying is absolutely right. There could be there could be theory out there that agrees with what he's saying, but at the end of the day, they're just wrong. All your is not bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:44

All you're saying is, though, my issue with what you're saying is this guy doesn't know what a tariff is. And you and my issue with it is obviously he knows what a tariff is.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:58

Why is that obvious?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:01

What do you mean? Because why is that obvious?

SPEAKER_03 1:39:04

Because he's only used it to the detriment of America.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:08

How's it only been to the detriment of America? Because all of the things that tariffs do is are have a national on our country. Just the detriment. There's not one positive that has come from uh his tariffs, not one.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:25

No, I don't think so. Why? Like, what would it be?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:28

I uh well, I could name a few, but like it's it's we've been doing we've been going uh an hour 40. Right. Yeah. But this is my issue with everyone. Uh like it's and so you I don't know, you just triggered me, I guess. Like just being like, this guy doesn't know what a tariff is. Like he obviously knows what a tariff is. Like it's tariff. It's a very, very, very, very simple thing to understand what a tariff is.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:02

Very simple thing. Like, do I think he's using them incorrectly? Absolutely. But like that, what I just said is an honest statement. And like, if we're gonna talk, if we talk politics, right? Like, I think we should approach it like from honesty, or like like, are we are we any good or like any better than the people on CNN or Fox News? Like, I that I and I obviously nobody's watching us, so why am I comparing us to that? But like I just think but I I like my my thing is is like to just say some like to I I it just bothers me so much that I mean I think I hear what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:48

He still know what a tariff is, but I come to that conclusion based on the evidence that I have.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:55

But you don't have any evidence. You've never you've never you you don't have any evidence, you've never talked to the man, uh you've never given him a quiz, an economic quiz. Like you don't know what he knows or do doesn't know. And like obviously a tariff is a very simple thing. So he knows what a tariff is. Like he knows.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:19

Alright. Alright. I I just don't I just don't understand it. I don't get it. Silence.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:35

I mean, yeah, I mean it's it's the thing is like like we always have these discussions, and you know, I'm I'm respecting your your your your side of it. So I understand what you're saying, right? Like, yeah, no, have I have I talked to the guy? No. All I have to go on is the way that he goes about you know the only thing I have to go on is his actions. And like to to to me, using them in the way that he that he's using them is he must not fully understand what they are because if you did, you definitely would not make these decisions. That's that's all I'm going on.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:10

Um I I disagree with you completely. Yeah, that's all right. He knows what they are. He knows what they are.

unknown 1:42:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:18

Yeah, that's and that's that's cool. I mean, I hope the fuck he does. It's not like I'm rooting for the guy to fail. We all we all fail if that happens. But uh yeah, I just I think that you know the the definitely the the the the the decisions and the way you you said it, right? The decisions and the way they're being used, definitely not great. So I I I defin you know I hope that he starts to see some of the result and revert back to maybe different economic theories so that you know that it can be beneficial for the country.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:50

Well, too late. The Supreme Court took care of that for us. So he won't learn his lesson, obviously. Well, he very rarely ever does. Maybe for 2028 he'll learn.

unknown 1:43:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:08

At the end of it though, dude, I do I do respect what you're saying and the other side of it. And maybe maybe I should rephrase my wording into uh instead of him not understanding what a tariff is, that doesn't understand maybe the end result of the actions of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:25

Right. I like my thing is is so I if he doesn't understand what a tariff is, he's not responsible for the outcome.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:35

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:36

And like uh he obviously I like to in for me, I'm like, he must know what a tariff is. And for me to be like, you motherfucker, you like stop with the stop telling me there's a trade deficit. Stop telling me that's like like it's a terrible, terrible fucking thing. Like, are you saying this for the people who don't know what a trade deficit is? So they're like, oh yeah, tariffs, tariffs.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:04

Yes, he is. Yeah, that that's that's why I point out that he's a marketing genius, not because to give him a compliment, but because he's preying on people that don't really understand what it is to invoke fear so that they follow him. And I have a big problem with that. Well, yeah, but people on the other side do it too.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:21

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:23

And I have a big problem with that too.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:25

Yeah, but uh so uh for anybody listening right now who's like, what's Jeff, what's what are Eric and Jeff talking about? Like, he he told me that trade deficits are terrible. Well, let me put it very simply. When you go to the store, you give money to the store, and you come home with a ton of stuff, but the store never comes to your house, gives you money for any of your stuff. That's called a trade deficit. Do any of you people think that that's a bad thing? Because I don't. I love that the store doesn't come to my house and try to buy my stuff. But dude, could you imagine if Walmart showed up to your house in pajamas? Yeah, in pajamas. In pajamas. Oh my god. Uh I'm so glad we did this. I don't know if we're gonna I so uh I just want you to know I respect the fuck out of you, and I know where you're coming from.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:33

I respect the fuck out of you too. I know where you're coming from.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:35

And uh I like I don't think you're a bad person, and I would never, ever, ever like think any less of your opinions or anything like that. I love having these great discussions.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:46

And you too, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:48

Uh it's just a ton of fun because like we get to challenge each other. And like I do, I do understand what you're saying. And yes, I did create a couple of hypotheticals to prove my point, which isn't great.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:03

But you know what though, I hypothetically, but the thing is, hypotheticals can be used to test our logic, right? And so, you know, I like that. I like that that angle, I like that opportunity, and we've had plenty of discussions where um I I remember this specifically when we were in the poconos. We we were we got into a kind of a political debate. Um there was other people there, and you were like, oh, okay, now I understand a little bit more, and I'm like, I changed my mind. And I'm like, that's that's how that should work, right? Like, you know, like you're challenged a little bit, and there's been plenty of times myself, include like you know, when we have these talks, I'm like, you know what? I do need to think about this differently. You know, maybe that was too a little bit too narrow of a of a worldview. Um, so I think it's all good. I think if you only talk to people you agree with, you'll never grow.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:52

Yeah, and you'll end up being one of those assholes who put a coexist bumper sticker on your fucking car. Yeah, put the poop one on.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:59

Put the poop one on your car.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:01

Yeah, poop. You gotta take a poop. Oh my god. And I also want everyone who knows me in real life, you heard it here. I said, you guys are right, and you've changed my mind. It's actually fucking happened. Wow. So my favorite part about this, we gotta wrap it up, but my favorite part about this is every time we're like, we have to keep these shorter, and they're getting longer.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:41

Yeah. It's fine, it's fine. Sam will still never listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:46

I know, and also like I feel attacked. Like her com her commentary. I was like, oh my god, she's really coming after me here. Uh yeah, I feel attacked.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:59

Well, all right, brother. It was another good one. Love talking with you. Love you, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:04

Yeah, I had a great time. Love you too, man. Um, and thanks for uh hanging in there with us, guys. We really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:12

Emily is gonna be so upset.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:14

I know. I know. All right, bye. Shout out M Dog. Bye. Wait, what wait, what happened? It says shout out M Dog. Oh, okay. Is that what we're calling her now?

SPEAKER_03 1:48:30

M Dog? I don't know. I was trying to be I was trying to be cool and urban. You are cool and urban.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:38

All right, bye everyone. Boogie Boogie.