EP012 | Sabres Playoffs, Hot Dog Debates & Aaron Rodgers Slander

The Sabres are back in the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers catches strays, and somehow we end up arguing whether a hot dog is a sandwich or just a handheld tube of chaos.

This episode starts with Jeff being way too excited about Buffalo hockey, then immediately falls apart into food debates, gummy bears in ice cream, grocery store behavior, and Gavin Newsom catching some completely unqualified political commentary.

As usual, strong opinions, unnecessary arguments, and very little resolution.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to Two Guys No Credentials.

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We're two completely unqualified people. Talk about nothing.

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And everything. Like we know what we're doing.

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Spoiler, we don't. Changes to what your weekend usually encompasses? No, it's just uh you know what? Somebody pissed me off this morning, and it's just been downhill. Like it's been bad. Tough to shake. Yeah, tough to shake. Yeah, it's been really bad. It's just been a like I've just been stressed out and like short. Um Paige just went to um to dinner with some friends, and I was like, can we just forget about this Sunday and you know you go back to loving me more than usual? And she was like, Yeah, okay, sure. Um, but yeah, just nothing's nothing's working out for me today. Um I don't really know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Yeah. Yeah, it's got been kind of like a boring, almost like lazy day for me. I just like don't feel like doing anything today. Like I did, I did stuff. I've did like like I'm like, oh, maybe I can get a head start on packing. And like 20 minutes later, I finished all of it for our for our vacation coming up. I'm like, okay, well that that killed no time. So I do have the hockey game on in the background. You got some Kings Avalanche, still nothing, nothing into the second. We'll see.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Oh, okay, nice. Yeah, my TV's on the other side of the wall.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Yeah. So there's nothing.

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It's hard to see that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. Um, but yeah, it was just like we had a great night last night. Um, we walked up the road um to this. We walked up this road, this the road to um this place called Sugo. Um, it's an Italian place, it's really good, although it's not as good as when it first opened. Just saying. Um, but we just got like four apps and drinks and had it had a great time. And then we drove up the road to the ice cream place, holy cow, and got some ice cream. Holy cow! That sounds like a lovely evening. Get this. So her order is always chocolate ice cream with gummy bears.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Okay, a little unconventional, but sure. Chocolate ice cream with gummy bears. That is a vanilla ice cream topping. Really? Yeah. I mean, like, I wouldn't do it because I'm a psycho, but yeah. I've heard of the gummy bears thing. Like, like you, like if you ever go to Coles uh Coldstone, they got all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

And there's like a lot of people that do the gummy bear thing. Uh, I'm not a huge like sweets fan in general, but if I am at like a Coldstone or something, if they're I don't even know if they're opening anymore. Uh I I would absolutely do anything peanut butter related in that ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Yeah, I'm uh I'm a peanut butter guy all the way. But she asks, she says, Hi, can I have chocolate with gummy bears? And the girl is, we discontinued the gummy bears. What do you mean you discontinued gummy bears? What's that mean exactly? You mean you stopped having them? You didn't discontinue them. Yeah, you stopped buying them. Yeah, you stopped. Yeah, you're you're not you're no longer selling gummy bears. I don't know why you have such a problem with people ordering gummy bears, but fuck you, holy cow.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Okay. Uh gummy bears are one of the few things that will withstand a nuclear war. Like you could just have gummy bears, just buy like three bags, and they'll last, they'll sit on that shelf forever. Exactly. Which is also disgusting. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 3:57

She likes the gummy bears. I don't get it. Well, that's good. You know what? Live your life. Eat the gummy bears. Bring your own gummy bears. Put these in there, sir. What's that's what we did. We went to the gas station and picked up gummy bears. Wait, seriously? Yeah. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

It was a great night. That sounds great, dude. Yeah, we had a good time. But this morning, oh man. It was like a dark cloud of it started off like we went, we went to the park, and I'm looking at the weather, and I'm like, we've got two hours before it starts raining. We get there, it's raining. Oh. And she's like, Well, that's fine. I've got my raincoat. I'm like, that's great. I don't have a raincoat because what do I need a raincoat for? If it's raining, I'm not gonna go out. Well, there we go. Yeah. Damn, dude. Uh, what do we have today? Oh, wow. I've I've got something exciting. You've got something exciting too.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

Yes, I want to talk about both of these things.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

All right, let's get into it. Go for it. I want to talk about yours first. Oh, I don't even know what to say, except Aaron Rodgers has announced he's retiring. Thank you so much. Go fuck yourself. We don't want to hear from you afterwards. No anti-vaccine bullshit. No, I'm living in the woods, and I have somebody who comes and gives me acupuncture on my balls. None of that shit. Just go the fuck away, Aaron Rodgers. In fact, I don't want to hear five five years from now, you're doing some sort of welfare fraud in the South. Like, just go away.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Pulling an old FAV. Yeah. Um, yeah. Aaron Rodgers, good riddance. You have been nothing but a pain in everyone's ass ever since you live left Green Bay. Even then, to the to the Bears, I guess you were still a pain in the ass. But my God, he is such a pompous uh asshole, loves the smell of his own farts. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just like Neil deGrasse Tyson. A little bit like Neil deGrasse Tyson. Uh, but he the way he just like talks, like he just believes he's smarter than everyone in the room. Like he doesn't talk like a normal person. I hate it when he's on Pat McAfee, which is the downside of this is that you're gonna see him on like those shows much more often now. Um but man, then I think back to what an illustrious post-career he had. Like he could have just retired being like the you know, first bell at Hall of Famer with Green Bay, and everything would have been great. But no, he has to go to the Jets, the friggin' Jets, where we injure, we we tear his Achilles week one, two minutes into the game. I don't know if you remember this. He played one snap, the second snap, boom, donezo. Yeah, I remember. So funny.

SPEAKER_03 7:07

Yeah, I I I've had it. In fact, you know, I could deal with the fact that he thinks he's smarter than everybody else. Um, if he had just left, like Green Bay, I'm done, goodbye, retiring. And I would have been like, good for you, you are smarter than me. But then the Jets, the Steelers. Right. Uh fuck you. Are you really smart? Well, I guess he is smarter than everybody else because he cashed in before he left, he left. But also, did he really need to?

SPEAKER_02 7:40

No. Yeah. He he definitely stained his entire like image and legacy by by going to these two teams. I could I I do think he has the arrogance to say, oh, these teams aren't that great. I'll make them much better. I'll make them better. And he did exactly he did not do that.

SPEAKER_03 7:59

No, I've had it. I'm so excited about. In fact, everywhere around the league, any team that's got a football team or any state that has a football team should have a parade. Just have a parade. Um yeah, uh go out, get the COVID-19 vaccine, like a ton of them. Just go wild. Celebrate the fact that Aaron Rodgers is no longer a part of the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Yeah. It's a good day for the NFL. Um, I also think it's really funny that he was he was such an anti-vaxxer, didn't want to take any of the vaccines because they're bad for his health, but then he went to the New York Jets.

SPEAKER_03 8:47

So how do those two go together?

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Believe me, playing for the Jets is not a good decision. That is also bad for your health. Okay, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 8:59

Um, well, it was he tore his Achilles. Yeah. Bitch. Um, yeah, I am giving him a hard time about the vaccines. He's not an anti-vaxxer. I guess what he was telling people, I don't who knows if it's true. It's probably bullshit, is he was uh he's allergic to one of the ingredients. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

Well, what he was doing is lying. He's because he he's he said that after he said the first thing where he's like, oh, I'm fully immunized. Like, what does that mean? And no, I'm I'm just I'm I don't need a vaccine, I'm immunized. So you've had it before? No, I've never had it. I I I'm just I'm immunized. No, you're not. No, you're not. You're just trying to skirt around. Like, listen, if you don't want to, if you didn't, if you didn't want to whatever, if you didn't want the vaccine, you should make your choices. But yeah, the rule is you can't play them. Then don't play. Like actually stick to your guns then. They were gonna pay you either way. The like you were under contract, so I don't know. And then you leave the city anyway. So like would do like what do you do you really even give a shit? That whole thing ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know what the answer is.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

I think for me, looking back, maybe instead of saying I'm immunized, maybe saying I have immunity. I don't know. I would have I would have that I would have been like, okay, sure. I could have got gotten behind that. Because you know how I feel about that. Like, if you got COVID-19, you're a young, healthy, in-shape athlete, you're probably protected for a while. Yeah, he could have he could have just made that argument and I would I could have gotten behind it.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah, but he's smarter than you. So that's why he said what he said. That's true. He is smarter than me.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

It's true.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

I'm just so glad he's gone. So now it's like it's like nice because now it's a completely new face of NFL, right? Like like officially. We it's like Manning's gone, that whole era of Tom Brady, Manning's all the rivers, we're through all of that. And now we're almost to the end of the next era. The Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes era. Those guys, they've already been in the league almost 10 years. Well, Flacco's still kicking around. Maybe Joe Flacco. He's coming, he's coming after Ryan Fitzpatrick's record hard. Yeah. Eight NFL teams. Yeah, what are you doing, Flacco? Made perfect sense for for Ryan Fitzpatrick. He took what he could get. Flacco, it's time, bud. You're a Super Bowl champion.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

You know what though? It actually really makes me happy about that because do you remember the wild contract that he got from Baltimore? I kind of I know that he did get one, but I don't remember what it was. It was huge. Like it was like I think it was one of the biggest ones at the time. Uh, and I was like, hey, Flaco's not gonna do shit. And well, you know, fuck him.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Yeah. What's so funny though is every team that he's on, he's definitely the best quarterback in that room. Yeah, no shit. He's still always the backup. But inevitably, they get injured. He comes in and he crushes it for a few weeks, and then nope. But like Cleveland should have kept him because you still have to, they still have to play Deshaun Watson. He's under contract. They still have to do it.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

There there's not there, there's nothing they could do. No, well, I mean, you could cut him, but like the people who run the the you know, the offices and everything, they can't like, I don't know, make sure he has an accident. Right.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Uh I I don't know like the the the uh the Browns organization overall just come top to bottom botched this entire thing. And it's fun for me to watch because it's not my team, so I don't care. But it it just the the idea that you're not just cutting your losses, everyone knows you screwed up. No matter which way you slice it, you still wasted all of that money and time.

SPEAKER_03 13:27

Yeah, there's nothing you could do, there's no like winning.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

Right. So just at least tell your fans we're gonna cut this guy. We see now that was a bad idea. Everyone in the world that told us we were wrong ended up being right.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

And I don't know, just like just cut cut him loose. Can they like decide opt out of a season and maybe go like play arena football for a season or two while they rebuild?

SPEAKER_02 13:55

I'm still not sure they would win.

SPEAKER_03 13:57

Save some cash. No, they definitely lose.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Arena football is wild. We used to have a team here. I used to I used to watch in high school. Yeah, it was it's kind of it's kind of fun. I mean, the field's obviously shorter and less players, but man, it's there's something about being confined with boards that makes it like really interesting. You don't have that safety now to stepping out of bounds and not getting crushed.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

Right. Yeah. Um, but thank God he's gone. I just hope they don't screw this up. I because I actually have a lot of faith in um uh Howard.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Yeah, Will Howard. I think he's gonna be nice, dude.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Well, they'll screw it up. The Steelers are that's what they do. They're they're like a like a little better than the Browns, their organization. They used to be this top-notch, amazing organization where you could be like, all right, those are fucking Steelers.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

Not anymore. Yeah, now new coaching regime, new quarterback. I mean, it's gonna be a lot of changes.

SPEAKER_03 15:02

Yeah, but the last 10 years, I it just doesn't seem it like I just watch it and I'm like, this isn't Steelers football.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. We'll see. We'll see how it works out. Um, who did they pick up for head coach? Do you know? Oh, uh McCarthy. Oh, duh. Yeah, it was McCarthy. Yeah, McCarthy. Um did he bring a bunch of his own staff members on?

SPEAKER_00 15:27

No idea.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

Because that that's gonna be the key. What I'm finding out with the Bills situation is not only is it a new head coach, we're not I don't even know if there is an offensive coordinator. I don't think there is because Joe Grady plans on calling his own place as the head coach, which I already don't like. But now they got a new defensive coordinator who has a completely different defensive scheme than anything any of our players were drafted to do. This is a really big risk. Sounds great.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Yeah. Sounds great.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Sounds fabulous. What we what we probably did was waste the entire career of one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks of all time. It's most likely what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

I know. It's so it's we've said this a million times, but it's such a shame to me because if he doesn't get that one at least one ring, uh it's just like he's never gonna be a Hall of Famer like he's a he should be a Hall of Famer. You know, yeah, it would make him be able to be like, oh, he's top five. He's he's in my top five, top ten. You know?

SPEAKER_02 16:38

Yeah. I think that would give a lot of NFL voters like pause on first ballot for him, uh, if he doesn't win a Super Bowl. Um I don't know. I mean you talked about that with like the man with Eli Manning, and I get well Phillip Rivers had now has to wait another five years because he had to play four games. But uh like I I would say the same thing. He won two Super Bowls, but he really was not very good. Like they lost as many games as he won, but he won those two, so he's probably gonna get a first ballot, even though he clearly doesn't deserve it.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

Never. Yeah, he was never good, never good.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

So I'm already excited for the NFL season. I what I think is interesting about this year, uh, because of you know our next topic, um, I want to talk about the Buffalo Sabres game one of the Stanley Cup playoffs tonight, first time in 14 years. And because of this, I have paid almost no attention to off-season football or the draft coming up this week. I'm I'm normally so dialed in and locked into the draft. I already know most of the college players, and uh I have my little idea of how I want the draft to kind of go. This year, I've paid almost no attention to any of that. And it feels nice because I know that Brandon Bean and the Bills are gonna screw this up anyway, so I could just focus my time on something else. Um, but I am very, very excited to see how this plays out tonight. Game one against the Boston Bruins. All right.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

I never pay attention to um uh the offseason. It's like a rule of mine. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Don't pay attention. I mean, obviously something big like Aaron Rodgers retiring, absolutely. Um, but I don't pay attention uh because I don't want to get my hopes up. I don't want to get upset. I don't want to like think, oh, this is gonna be great for me. Um I don't I don't want any of that because I want to go into the next season just being ready for disappointment.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Yeah, it's so real though. Believe you me, if anyone knows that, it's a it's it's me. Um, but yeah, I I uh I just love football, so I try I stay in it as much as possible. It's once I changed jobs though, it became a little more difficult because when I was working at home, I could have like the radio on in the background, I'd listen to sports radio all day as I'm doing stuff. So like it was a lot easier to stay in it. Now I have to like dedicate a lot of my extra time to it, which is already limited. So I'm I'm not as in it anymore, but it is kind of nice already. I see what you mean. Like, I don't have to get my hopes up about anything, I'm not I'm not really doing that, and anything that they do, I'm just kind of it's just kind of a surprise instead of me just me having an opinion on what they should do and then being pissed off about it. So it is nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

And honestly, people people can criticize me if they want to, but I like going into the season not knowing anybody's name. That is a little strange. No, seriously. I'm just going in, I'm like, all right, I'm watching the Steelers play. I don't give a shit who it is. You know, I know some key players' names, and that's that. I don't know all of them, who they are, how many baby mamas they have, um, you know, who got injured when, or uh any of that crap. You know, don't I don't need to know.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

I mean, I feel it. I feel it. I I like to know because I and I like to know how they should be playing so that I can pitch about them when they're not playing well.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

Oh, see, that's the thing. I can they're never playing well, so I can pitch. Even when they win a game, it's like, oh, look at the Steelers. They won 9-6, no touchdown score, just all field goals. Like, all right, guys, you played great.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Yeah, man. That was like what that was one of Tom Brady's Super Bowls. They won like 10-3. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:35

Horrible Super Bowl. Horrible.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:40

Fucking Tom Brady.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

But yeah, man, Stanley Cup playoffs tonight. Um, a lot has changed. Um now that I've been like paying attention to a few of these games, a lot's changed in the way they broadcast, which is interesting. Um, there are it is a lot more um entertaining of a broadcast than I remember it being. Um, but I'm I'm just excited. I'm so happy for the fans. There's a party in the plaza tonight, right outside the arena. Um, really cool setup. So there's kind of two different areas. There's Canal Side, which was like a music venue. They just have huge screens up, it's all outdoor. And if we you could just go there, it's free. You just show up. You can buy your beer and food from different vendors, and they just have it on the screen with these massive speakers. All these Sabres fans out there just watching it. They also have the same setup like right outside the arena, and uh it's gonna be so cool, man. Nice. You're gonna get some onion rings.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

I do love onion rings.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

Those are the onion rings.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

Those onion rings are the only onion rings I've ever been like.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

These are good. Yeah, he's referring to uh Ted's hot dogs, the Ted's hot dog truck that came to my wedding. Yeah. We scheduled that. They didn't just like roll by roll up, you know.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

They just they just show up unannounced where Wait a minute, you guys got a wedding in there? Yeah, it's an onion ring and hot dog pop-up.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Anyways, that's all I got for an update. That's just that's what's going on in my life right now.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

Yeah, I got nothing else. Just Aaron Rodgers is gone. See ya. Bye-bye. Yeah. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, you pussy. Wait, don't let the door hit you in the pussy, you ass? How does that supposed to go?

SPEAKER_02 22:31

I like that. I like that one better. Um, don't let the don't let the cave door roll over your foot on the way out. You know, you love your fucking caves.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Who loves caves?

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Aaron Rodgers. He like lives in one for three months while he's like on ayahuasca. Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Can I tell you I wanted to I want to go have a plant medicine experience so bad. And really, yeah. I really do. I like everything I hear about it, everything I read, I just hear it's just life-changing.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Maybe. Yeah. You should do it.

SPEAKER_03 23:15

It's a lot of work. You gotta go, you gotta go to like Peru. Yeah, you gotta find a shaman. And not not like a you know, like Aaron Rodgers. You gotta find a real shaman.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yeah, I it none of none of that sounds interesting to me. Really? Yeah. Wow. Okay. That seems silly. I mean, I've heard the same thing. I've heard the same thing. Like the it's like a life-changing experience, it's like otherworldly and eye-opening and all that. And again, if if that's something you feel like you want to do, you should go do it. I'm it's not for Jeffy.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

It's not for Jeffy. What is for what is for Jeffy?

SPEAKER_03 23:57

Um, cheese it's uh Jesus. Um Tylenol, maybe a rice sock heated up in the microwave.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

Every once in a while I do like a like a diet coke or a sodium. That's for Jeffy. Oh, um, we have this one this one place by us, and it's only a summer like burger joint. Um right next to the Niagara River, it's called uh Mississippi Muds. All makes no sense, and that's kind of the joy of it. Um, but it's like one of the only soda machines, like the fountains that has power aid. Oh my god. I want to I want to show up with a bucket. It's just oh unbelievable. I go, they're just for the power aid. Just for the power aid, you know they have that at the stores. Yeah, it's not the same, you know. Okay, all right. Don't you think fountain drinks do taste different than when they're canned?

SPEAKER_03 25:03

I'm gonna be honest with you. Um, I don't drink soda. So if I'm going out to a restaurant or somewhere where they have fountain drinks, I'm getting an unsweet tea.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

You know what? This is very mature. This is very you no one really should ever drink sodis. Um, but my good god, every once in a while, a nice crisp uh DC. Oh, give it to me. No, no.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

Yeah, and it this isn't like an adult choice for me either. It's just um soda burns my throat.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

So yeah. Interesting. This is an interesting uh lesson I'm learning.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

So I don't like it. But what about beer? Does beer do that for you?

SPEAKER_00 25:50

No.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Beer makes me drunk.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Yes, yeah, typically.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Yeah, even the NA's.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Oh, yeah, yeah, because I can't drink for shit. I got a little tipsy last night. Oh, you did? Yeah, I had to be. What were you drinking last night? Mexican mule. No, tequila mule. Tequila mule. Tequila mule. You don't say Mexican mule anymore. We'll edit this out. That was canceled. Just like the gummy bears.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Well, they were Mexican gummy bears, you know? Oh boy. They're from Mexico. Are there bears in Mexico?

SPEAKER_03 26:34

Are there bears in Mexico?

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Um, yes, but I think they refer to them as dingoes. No, that's a dog. Hyenas?

SPEAKER_03 26:43

That's another, I'm pretty sure that's another dog, too. Arm armadillos? Maybe the dingo HO baby.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

All right. That's every time that's every time I hear anyone say anything about Australia, like anyone from Australia, I turn to Sam and I go, uh, hey, I'm Keith Urban. I'm dating Nicole Kidlin. We want a pet dingo on a wallaway. Keith Urban dates Nicole Kidman. They were married for a while. Really? He's he's way out of her league. Uh kind of. Yeah, but they they both the the interesting thing is both of them have a woman's haircut.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

I don't know what you mean.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

They both have like like Keith Urban goes to the barber and he's like, give me the lesbian. And that's what they do. Yeah, they both have a woman's haircut.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

Uh man, I can't picture it really, because the last thing. Who's Keith Urban? Are we thinking about two different people? Probably country music singer.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

We are talking about two totally different people. Hang on. Well, it'd be incredible if you're like, oh man, I was thinking about Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

No, no, no. Um what's the guy's uh you know the have you seen the show The Boys? Yeah. Carl Urban. That's who I'm thinking of. Is that his name? Carl Urban? Yes. Very different guy. Okay. All right. Uh Carl Urban is way out of Nicole Kidman's league. I have no idea who this Keith you speak of. No clue.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

Keith Urban, country music singer. I don't really like his music, but he is uh one of the best guitarists in our generation. Uh, he's very, very good. And so that's like why I like him. But other than that, I don't like either one of them.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

All right.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Well, shout out to Nicole. She likes Keith Urban.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

No, Carl, Carl Urban. Yeah, let's let's set that up. Let's set that up.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

Let's matchmake him. No, no, no. Um this is so weird. I well, I'm not gonna go into all of Nicole's business, so maybe I shouldn't be mentioning this, but I was talking about okay, Nicole thinks Carl Urban is good looking, but she's dating a Keith. Alright, we gotta really move on because this is this is going nowhere. This has gone off the rails. Yeah, it really has. Oh my god. Wow. All right, well, we should get into our regrets for the week, and mine is the previous conversation.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

Uh he ain't lying. No, I'm um Oh yeah, I don't really have any regrets this week. I I've gone on vacation on Wednesday for 10 days, and I'm can't I can't wait.

SPEAKER_04 30:17

You should be regretting that.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

Who wants to go anywhere? Um, I I do love Siesta Key. We're we're also making a pit stop at Disney World with my niece. Uh, that will be very fun and cool to see her in that atmosphere. Um, I I know we're gonna have a really nice time doing that. Um, but then getting my ass over to the beach in Siesta. Can't wait for that. Niggas around, doing nothing all day, drinking beers all day. At the beach, boy. Yeah, yes. Going out and having some food and you know, some more drinks after. Ay, ay, yay, yay. There's like 20 of us going. Wow, 20. Is this friends or family? Yeah. Both. Both. Really? Friends and family. First of all, you're you're mixing friends and family like that? Yeah. That's bold. It is bold. Uh, our family has been our family's very large and very close, so um, we all know like friends of the family. Um, so it it's it's it's really fun. Uh the couple that's going with us to Disney, um, like they they would come to our family functions all the time. So uh they're coming down with us. And it's kind of neat too, because if they weren't there, it's just kind of like my parents and aunts, uncles, and like their friends, when they're all cool to hang out with, but like it's not like anybody anybody wants to like go out and get drinks after dinner with us. They all want to go kind of like back to the condo. So this will be a little bit nicer to be able to like experience and explore more.

SPEAKER_04 32:00

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Okay, wow.

SPEAKER_04 32:03

That's um it's a bold move, Cotton.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

Whole strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

All right, and then um, oh, my regret, other than the previous conversation, is going to Costco and the grocery store today. Oh, yeah. So we're in Costco, everything goes great. We do the checkout, um, and we're taking a right past all the rest of the lanes to head out to the exit. And there's a woman behind me. I'm pushing a car. She's behind me, she's got some stuff in her hands, but she's trying to pass me, but she keeps on like second guessing her move. Like, so she's getting really close to like my left side, then my right side, then my left side, then my right side. But she's really like she's so close to me. And so finally I just like hit the brakes, and I really wish I wasn't like this, but I'm like this. I just stop and I'm just like, why don't you just go ahead of me? And she's like, Oh, no, no, no, no. And I'm like, no, no, no, I'll stay right here. You are in a rush, just get in front, go in front of me, just go. And she's like, Oh no, I wasn't. And I'm like, Yes, you were, just go. And I wish I wasn't like this, but it that's like the most annoying behavior. Like, make a move past me. If you're too old and frail to make that move and pass me, just suck it the fuck up and back off. Yeah. Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

Interesting. So the the setup at Costco, you're I'm I'm assuming you're behind all the registers and you're trying to walk past them, but there's also other like customers coming, like traffic, right? Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Oh, can we all just agree in public spaces? The rules of the road still apply. Yeah, they apply. Rules of the road apply in public spaces, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

So, I mean, I'm I'm sure she didn't use a blinker. Give me one of these. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Okay, let me ask you. But let me ask you this question. What if she was like, excuse me, I'm so sorry, I am in a huge rush. I have to get somewhere. Do you mind if I just sneak past you?

SPEAKER_03 34:33

Oh, please. Go ahead. That's all it took? That's all it would have taken. But instead, you made me embarrass myself. Were you with Paige? Yep.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Yep. She really enjoyed that. Yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Well, I get it. I get it. That's a good one. I think you're valid. It gets worse.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Oh, hitney. It gets worse. So we leave Costco. Some guy beeped at me, and I called him a cunt. Uh. So we leave, go to the other grocery store, we go to our local local grocery store in town. We walk around, we get everything we need, we have a great time. We see this woman, she's got two kids. I roll my eyes because I'm like, just leave your fucking kids at home. If they don't need to come to the grocery store with you, just leave them at home. Put them in the dog crate if you have one. Whatever you gotta do. So we're ready to check out. So we're walking past, you know, all the checkout aisles, and I see a guy. He's got a full cart, but there's not a ton of stuff in his cart. And I'm like, this is gonna go fast. So I'm gonna go behind him. So this is a strategic move. Like, I want to get out of here as fast as possible without being rude, you know, without doing anything, without stealing your groceries. So I'm behind him. He's putting everything up on the thing, and then all of a sudden, he leans over, like around, you know, where the the drink case is of the aisle. You know, he leans over, puts his arm out, and he's like, Sharita, Sharita, or whatever her fucking name is. It's something stupid. And she's like, Sharita. And this woman with the two kids and a full grocery cart just come over and she looks at me like, uh, that's my husband. I'd like to get in here, please. And I'm flabbergasted. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, this is completely wrong. Grocery store etiquette not being observed. I'm so pissed off, my head's about to explode. But we already had the incident at Costco. So I'm keeping I'm just doing my best to keep it together and not fucking lose my mind. The guy, he's like, Oh, thank you. He looks like a gay Harry Conig Jr., whatever that means. And I'm so angry. And like I I'm in the front of the car, Paige is controlling, and I turn to her, and she could just see it. She's like, it's fine, it's fine. Don't don't worry about it, it's no big deal. And I'm like, what do you mean it's no big deal? She's like, not right now. And I'm like, don't tell me it's not a big deal. Don't tell me not right now. I know not right now, right? Because I I don't know what to do. This is so hard for me because I just want to, I couldn't believe it. I picked this lane because there were there were an okay amount of groceries in my mind to get behind.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

And then he added to those groceries. It's not like she went to go get grab a melon, right? And he was like, Oh, my wife will be right back. She's just grabbing a melon. No. He she she had a cart of groceries. Like, you don't get to split up grocery carts, fill them completely up. One person gets in line to hold it and save the spot, and then your wife shows up and grabs grabs the rest of it. Like, you don't get to do that. Like, that's not okay.

unknown 38:46

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

You are 100% right about all of this. There is absolutely an etiquette to this that needs to be followed if we want to have a society. So completely different. If you're in line behind this guy and he's like, Sharita, I'm over here. And she just pulls up right behind you, she goes, Oh no, you're you're in line. I'll just we'll just you know, pay separate, you know, pay twice for these.

unknown 39:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

If she's right behind you, we move on with our day. That's that's a wonderful thing to do. But there is an etiquette to this.

SPEAKER_03 39:18

Or he could have said, Hey, uh, when I showed up, hey, my wife's coming with a full grocery car. I'm not sure if you want to get behind me because she's gonna she's gonna cut you in line like like she deserves to. Like he could he could have given me a warning. Like we could have gave you a warning. Yeah, we do what he could have done his Harry Conig Jr. voice, like from that movie, the serial killer movie, and you know, he could have told me and he'd be like, hey, just give me a heads up. We're gonna be complete assholes here. So you might want to move on. And I'd be like, Oh, you're gonna be an asshole? Got it. I'm going over there.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

See ya. That's that is on that would be unusual behavior for an asshole.

SPEAKER_03 40:02

Yeah, but they should try it.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

They should try it out. Try it out, see how it feels. Oh, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, that's that's tough. When I was like running the grocery stores, I would see that kind of behavior all the time. Or like even worse, even worse. Uh, you know, this lady's almost done checking out. She's like, oh my god, I forgot something. And now she's getting out of line. We're done scanning everything. Everyone's just waiting for this lady to return. And then she returns with her one little item. They scan it, and then she's like, Oh, where's my checkbook? And she's gonna write a friggin' check, but she hasn't dated it, she hasn't written anything on it. Now we gotta wait for that. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

So self-centered and inconsiderate. I can excuse the oh, I forgot something behavior, because it happens to everybody. So it would annoy me, but it I like I wouldn't be pissed off and talking about it right now. I was just like, all right, yeah, I get it. Go ahead and go get your lucky charms, bitch. But this out of control. I told I so we're walking. This is the worst part that like I think really solidified my terrible day. I was like, I don't understand how you're not pissed off. She's like, because there's other things to be mad about, and I'm like, yeah, you're right, but not right now. Like, this is the thing. She's like, Oh, I just you know, I just save it for other things. I'm like, what other thing? There, this is the thing. I just don't like I don't understand how she could be so calm about this.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Uh, I couldn't what's what's actually crazy is you have a point. What else are you gonna be mad at? This is the thing that's happening now. Yeah, this is what's happening right now.

SPEAKER_03 41:48

Don't save being mad because this is the thing they should be mad at now. Yeah, what am I gonna save this anger?

SPEAKER_00 41:55

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

Save it because I know that the delivery guy's really gonna screw something up, so I'm hanging on to this. Like a garden hose, and then I can I'll unkink it and just angry at that guy.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

Fuck. I uh honestly, if I was in charge of the world, that guy and his wife would be publicly executed. Oh my god. It's true. I this it this cannot be allowed to happen.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

I think what we should bring back the thing where they're locked in, and then you throw rotten fruit and veggies at them.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

That's not a bad idea. That's uh actually that's a actually a good idea. I like that. I'm watching um uh The Last Kingdom right now on Netflix, which is probably like in my top five shows ever. Um, and there's a point where he's being punished and they have to grovel, and um he has to put on women's clothes and like like move on his knees, like almost crawl, but like with his hands up and um like to the church or whatever. Uh maybe that would be an appropriate punishment for this instead of the execution.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Yeah, I I feel like that I feel like the punishment matches the crime better. You're gonna act like that in public, then you deserve to be humiliated in public.

SPEAKER_03 43:21

I'm just saying, if you know, we had some public executions, maybe there wouldn't be so much crime. Yeah, I mean, that is a theory.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

That is a theory. We can workshop it.

SPEAKER_03 43:36

Uh we can workshop that. All right. Yeah, the two the two guys know credentials think tank. Think wow, think tank. Man, it's more like a drink tank. Drink a drink tank. What are the um what are those things you throw a baseball at and you it's a dunk tank. I like that. Yeah, I like it.

SPEAKER_02 43:59

We should we should Definitely do a dunk tank, a fundraising duck tank dunk tank for some cause. We'll just we'll find a cause. We'll do a dunk tank. Like a dunk tank, a dunk tank pop-up?

SPEAKER_03 44:11

That has onion rings. Yes, yes. Nice. Okay. All right, we've got this almost figured out. Callback. Um, I think it's uh, yeah, we'll just the cause will probably be whatever's wrong with my brain.

SPEAKER_02 44:28

They'll go right to the human fund. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:34

What is that? What's the human fund? What was that? Is that no? That was oh, that's that's Seinfeld. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

Of course. That was close. I almost that was close. That was close. It's a fun for humans. It's a fun for people. For people.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

All right. We gotta get into our uninformed takes. Um, listen, it's your choice. It's basically the same topic. So Gallon News or Hot Dog Sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

So I think this one could be pretty quick. I think we should start with hot dog. So this is the age-old debate. The age-old debate of is a hot dog a sandwich? And I think that this argument is quick because the answer is yes. It is a sandwich.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

It is not. It is not a sandwich. It's not a sandwich.

SPEAKER_03 45:34

If it was, it'd be like I I'd like a hot dog sandwich, please. And my burger a meat sandwich. You don't call a burger, you don't call a burger a ground meat sandwich. You're absolutely right. You don't. But there are exceptions to every rule, and the burger is it.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

There's also like but still, it's it meets all of the qualifications of a sandwich. Does that piece of meat in between two pieces of bread? It's not two pieces of bread, it's one one piece of bread. So is a submarine sandwich. Submarine sandwich.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

No, no, no. But that's not two, that's two pieces of bread. It's just on a hinge. So is the hot dog bun. No, the hot dog bun is not a hinge. It's open. You open it. It's not a hinge, but you're you're like open.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

But that's the same process with a submarine sandwich.

SPEAKER_03 46:35

Alright, so can I ask you a question? Let's say I want a bun that's got an opening in it, but it's not on a hinge like a submarine, you know. All right?

SPEAKER_00 46:50

And I put lobster in it. What do I call that? I think you you call it a po'boy.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

You call it a lobster roll.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

Yeah, lobster roll, which is on the sandwich part of the menu. A po'boy is on the sandwich part of the menu.

SPEAKER_03 47:04

It's not on the sandwich part of the menu, it's on the handheld part of the menu. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:14

What else do you do with your hands? Eat a sandwich.

SPEAKER_03 47:17

No, no, no, no. You eat tacos.

SPEAKER_02 47:21

You could eat tacos, yeah. It's not limited to only sandwiches. You could have a wrap. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

That's a handheld, but it's not a sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

What's a corn dog then?

SPEAKER_00 47:34

It's just a corndog.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

I think that I think the hot dog, it's undeniable that it belongs in the sandwich umbrella. No, sorry, it is not. But I don't I don't there's no argue there's no evidence here.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

Yeah, no, I just proved it. If you replace it's a hot dog roll. Like a lobster roll.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

Yeah, but even a lobster roll is under the umbrella of a sandwich. No, it's under the umbrella of wait for it. Handheld.

unknown 48:15

Handhelds.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

All right, a hot so hot dog is a handheld. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

We've said handheld so much that I don't know what those words mean anymore. I'm just saying I just don't understand how you could you could claim a hot dog is a sandwich because one, it's one piece of bread. Yeah, it's got an opening. Sure, you could make the argument the gyro, the or not the gyro, the hero, submarine sandwich, all that stuff. But you have to admit those roles are different.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

Yeah, they're all different, but they all still fall under a sandwich. Yeah, but uh a hot dog roll is just that, it's a roll. But a roll is still I would put the roll in the sandwich. I just think there's it's the tier. It's the tier system. It's the tier system. I'm just saying I Yeah, because like you can have sandwich, and under sandwich is burger, roll, po'boy, and hot dog. It's all whether it's all sandwich.

SPEAKER_03 49:28

This is what I'm gonna do for you. All right, okay. Um, I'm gonna propose something, you bring it back to your delegation and see what happens. Okay, my associates. Yeah, my proposal is that we compromise and we say a hot dog is an open face sandwich, and I can get by now.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

Is that open face sandwich? Which is hilarious because the fact that it's open face means it's not a sandwich. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

I'm okay. I'm okay if we want to call it a sandwich when you say it's open face.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Yeah, the funny part is I actually don't care about this at all. But uh if if we have to choose, that's that's the side that I land on. All I know is uh I like I I really don't like the Salance hot dogs that we have. I think this is sacrilege to say out loud, they suck. Everyone that likes them only likes them because it's a Buffalo thing. You're just lying because like every other beef rank is absolutely so much better, undeniably so. Uh so now you know where I sit on that. All right, I don't like hot dogs. Yeah, like if we're together, I think we've only ever done like steaks or burgers. I don't think we've ever like done hot dogs on purpose.

SPEAKER_03 50:49

Yeah, I'm not a big hot dog fan. If I if I have to eat hot dogs, I'll choose the boar's head hot dogs. Yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_00 50:59

But other than I don't what's your choice of topping?

SPEAKER_02 51:04

Oh, well, you're not gonna like me for this one either. If if I have to have a hot dog, mayo goes in that bun, mustard goes on that bun. Wiener goes right in. Mayo? Oh yeah, change your life.

SPEAKER_03 51:20

We have talked about this. That's right. Jesus. What? Man, ain't on a hot dog. Yeah, it's but that's the best. No, that's not the best. That's that's the opposite of the best. That's that's terrible. That's terrible.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

Terrible. That's a terrible condiment. The yeah, I mean, I don't mind the ketchup mustard combo. Don't mind it. I'd rather have a mayo. I just want I don't want a combo. I just want mustard. Oh, I'll I'll I'll take that all day. Uh regular yellow or Dijon?

SPEAKER_03 51:59

Uh Dijon. So, and don't give me any of that spicy brown shit because it's not spicy. It's not really spicy. I want something like with some horseradish in it, like make like clear up my nose.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

That's what I want.

unknown 52:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:19

So do you like grey coupon then? Is that your go-to? Yeah, absolutely. Dijon? Yes. I get what you say with the brown mustard seeds in there. It's really not, it's like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 52:31

It's thin, thin flavor. It's not enough. Yeah, it's not enough. Um, my favorite of all, so everybody likes the I don't know. Are you gonna remember this? Of all, so Grey Poupon used to have these great um commercials where like, you know, a limousine would pull up and uh to another limousine, yeah, roll down the window and be like, excuse me, do you have any Grey Poupon? Um But there was another one where there's a really fancy dinner and there's kind of like a cowboy type guy sitting at the table, and everybody's like, Um, you know, could you please pass the gray coupon? Right over and over again. And the cowboy guy, he's like, Would you please pass the jelly? And everybody looks at him like he like you need to get the fuck out of here. That's my favorite commercial. Sounds electric. I quote that, I quote that all the time. Like if people are like, Could you just pass this, plant pass this? I'm like, could you please pass the jelly? I do it all the time.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Please pass, I'm gonna start using it.

SPEAKER_03 53:38

You please pass the jelly, yeah. All right, well, I'm glad we did the hot dog as a sandwich. Question. We settled that.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

We got to we we only hit the hard-hitting issues here on this podcast. Yeah. Um, the fact that no one's talking about this is wild to me. We need to define it on the menu. Handheld. Well, first of all, if you're going to a restaurant that has a hot dog on the menu, you shouldn't be going to that restaurant. You need to leave.

SPEAKER_03 54:12

Wait, Mississippi Muds doesn't have a uh hot dog?

SPEAKER_02 54:16

Yeah, but I go there for the power aid. All right, sure.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

Oh boy. All right. Well, listen, I wanted to talk about this because I saw you arguing on Facebook, and first of all, don't do it, man. It's such a waste of time. Oh, yeah, I love it. It's my it's so much fun. I used to do I used to do it. I I guess you're at that age. No, I just like getting people riled up and then bouncing. Um, but I like I saw you like, man, I I wanted to take a screenshot of the uh of the post, but I forgot. But you were like defending Gavin Newsome. Yeah, because they're like like name somebody who's not a piece of garbage like Gavin Newsome or something, something along those lines. And you were like, uh the economy's huge, blah blah blah. Um and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

Go ahead. Well, the specific term that this person used was is there a governor more useless than Gavin Newsome? The term useless is what I was responding to. And by the way, I'm not like a big huge newsome guy. Like, I don't care. I California is a very strange place, but we're that state is right now the seventh largest economy in the world. There's a lot to balance with different uh sectors of worldwide industry like tech, in uh agriculture, like Hollywood, all of these things, and then to balance that budget and then still have had a surplus is probably not the most useless thing. I disagree with everything you just said.

SPEAKER_00 56:07

Okay. Everything.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

So, first of all, let's start with the Hollywood thing. All right, the one thing you're known for, Hollywood. Well, not the one thing, but the probably the biggest thing California is known for is making movies. They don't even make movies there anymore, they're filmed everywhere else, they're filmed in Canada. You're doing such a bank job. Yeah, in Vancouver. They're you're doing such a bad job. It's so expensive to make a movie. The place that makes them doesn't do it anymore. You've drove them elsewhere. So I'll say that. The other thing, too, is it is the huge economy. It's um, I think it goes back and forth from like seventh to fifth. I think something like that, yeah. Um, but that really doesn't mean too much because all that means is you've just got a giant population. Like, if you break it down like uh like GDP per capita, like it's pretty close to other small states. The people in other small states are more productive than the people in California, and that says something about the leadership there, too.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

Yeah, surplus is great, but their fire management, terrible, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

Yeah, which is weird because as I was reading up on this a little bit too, he has done more for wildfire management than any other governor. They have invested more in those resources than any other governor, and it was still the response was still abysmal. But then again, I've never like been a part of a wildfire, so I don't I have no idea how that should look or what should happen, but it seems like it shouldn't have happened the way it did.

SPEAKER_03 57:58

Yeah, there were reservoirs that were completely empty, or I think are they called reservoirs? I don't know where they keep the water for the aqueducts, uh yeah, the Romans, they have little Roman men handling them. Yes, yeah, um the other thing too is um homelessness. I'm pretty sure it's yeah in the billions they've spent and the homelessness problem. 20 billion, and it's just gotten worse. They did reduce um I I think that's a lie. I think last year it did go down by nine percent. Um, but that's pretty small considering how much money you're spending on it.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

Yeah, but it but uh a thing, an important thing to remember is it's because the population is so large, those kinds of policy changes take a lot longer to take effect.

SPEAKER_03 58:55

Like I mean, it's been it's been years.

SPEAKER_02 58:58

Yes, but this was signed to what, like three years ago. So it's gonna take a long time because the 20 billion is for uh housing. It's for affordable housing, it's for being able to go into Los Angeles, San Diego, and all these all the other larger cities around there and rezone them so that you they can put duplexes on what were originally single family lots. So now you can for every lot you can put two families.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

So all of that takes so the fires were on purpose to to make rooms.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

Yeah, but what it's uh so now the ability for them to actually build all of that takes forever. So 9%, I feel like is actually a pretty good decrease on the homelessness, because we're also not talking about the rate at which homelessness is increasing. Because living, we could if you're if you're a homeless person, you're migrating south and probably to Southern California, where there is a larger population of people, a larger population of resources, a lot more organizations that are willing to help with that.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

By that logic, though, then that nine percent probably isn't as great as it sounds because each year the homeless problem was probably getting worse before that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:16

Yeah, but also concurrently still getting worse. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:20

I'm just saying, like uh the nine sounds okay, but it might not actually be nine. It might more be closer to six if you take in how it's gotten worse. Maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:32

Yeah, yeah, maybe, but I'm not really sure what the governor can do to prevent homeless people from walking into a state and then just planting a tent.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:40

All right. Um, fair enough. Let how about this? We put a reminder on our phones five years from now, we see how it's how it's going. I betcha it's worse.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:51

Oh, I but I I it probably it might be. Who knows? Um, I am not this big, huge Gavin Newsom guy like he's the best.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

Uh I just don't think he's the most useless. If we're doing five years from now, how about we do 2032 instead? Because um I'm pretty sure uh Trump in his third term, he's gonna take care of homelessness, so he actually might improve that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:19

It actually would be a fun idea to put a reminder in and then check back and see where we're at. I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:26

Yeah, do it. Absolutely. If I could remember to put it in as a reminder after this, I'll I'll do my best. But um, all right, I've got a couple more. Uh um in the last three years, um, I think it's close to half a billion, 600 million or something um of revenue has been lost due to companies and millionaire billionaires leaving the state because of taxes being so high. Yeah, I don't when did the tax rate go up? He increased the tax tax rate. Um I I can't remember. I made some notes, but my notes are all over the place.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:17

Um was it within like the lap last year?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

Let's see.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

Which um tax rate would you like me to look up first?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:30

Well, which one are you referring to? Because taxes went up.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:35

Let's see. Let's see what it says. I don't know. You know what we need to do? We need to get um sponsored by perplexity.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

What's perplexity?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:56

Uh it's an AI that like all of the podcasters are using. Oh. Oh, the big one was in 2020 with proposition 30, extended in 2016, proposition 55, additional impact, um, payroll tax cap removed, effectively pushes top earners' total burden to about 14.4% on wages over 1 million. This is why people say California's top rate is now even higher. Okay, I see. So um, all right, simple breakdown. California tax the rich system really started in 2012 at Prop 30, uh, then pushed the top rate to 13.3, the highest in the country. Then in 2016, Prop 55 extended it. More recently, 2024, payroll tax changes pushed the effective top rate even higher. So 2024, that was Newsom. He was there for that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:57

But I mean, uh California, since Newsom's been there, um they lost uh Hewlett Packard, Oracle, X, SpaceX, um, Tesla. What else? The guy from um the the co-founder of uh Uber left. Oh yeah. Oh where are they going? Texas? Texas. Uh one of them uh went to Hawaii, I think. I don't know. You just like the weather.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:32

But the other thing, the high speed rail. What about it? Oh, there's like 20 yards of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

Oh yeah, I I don't again, I'm not just a big gavin news to him. I love California guys, so I really don't even know that much about uh what's going on, but it does sound like they have just as much uh rail as they do wall to Mexico, which is good. Yeah, it's like the same distance.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

Um hey, listen, third term in that.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:04

Then it'll be then it'll get done. It takes a long time to build one, right? Um yeah, I don't I mean, I don't know. I think that the what's raising those taxes. It's really I think it's really funny when people are trying to solve one problem by creating another one. To me, it sounds like they're trying to solve the homelessness issue by raising taxes on everyone else. Um, but like there's no actual incentive for any company to stay in California. They're not loyal to you, they're gonna move wherever's gonna be more advantageous for them. Right. Um, so but part of that problem is then you have a much higher corporate tax rate on top of that. So now there's no incentive at all for any country to even stay in America. So that's a that's a problem. And I think they compiled at one after another, uh

SPEAKER_03 1:06:00

Yeah, I just I here's my thing. Useless, maybe that's the wrong word, but I can't stand the guy. Like you listen to Newsome talk, and depending on who's in the room, he's totally different. And I understand that's what politicians do, but he's doing something very interesting because he sees how polarized things, so he wants to be a Trump-like figure, right? With like the memes and the harsh talking and the language and everything like that. But also he wants to be middle of the road, but he won't let go of like the trans stuff. He will be like, oh yeah, there is a um a genocide going on in Gaza. And then on the other hand, he'll be like, no, it's not a genocide, but I understand why people call it that. You know, he's just so full of shit. Um, and this is the part I agree with. He's so full of shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:59

Yeah, he's so disingenuous. It's um for and and by the way, I'm furious with any politician that's like, oh, let me give Trump a taste of his own medicine. Then they're post memes and make make these videos, like just like belittling themselves to belittle him. Uh I just think I don't want anybody in my government doing that to anyone. That is like you know what though?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:30

Here's the real reason. They're all bad at it. The only one who's the only one who's good at it is Trump. No, no, the rest of you aren't making me laugh. Trump's trump makes me laugh, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:46

Yeah, we talked about this before. He makes me laugh because of I because it's not intentional. Like, he thought that that that AI photo was a doctor. Come on. Like, he didn't actually think that.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:58

He was healing somebody. It was a doctor.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:01

Like, it's it's just completely ridiculous. And I I I do think there might be some truth to the somebody telling him that photo was doctored and then he misheard it and then just said, Oh, I thought it was a doctor. Like that that to me actually does follow. But that's not funny because he's trying to be funny. That's funny because it's believably ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:19

And oh well, it's my thing is this here's my so I think uh let's not get into this too much because we already did it, but the meme, I think he's trying to troll people, but then he somebody was like, uh sir, I don't know if you know this, but your supporters, a lot of them are Christian. And he's like, Oh, what can I say to him? Tell him, tell him you thought it was a doctor. And you're like, Oh, all right, okay, I'll do that. That's what I think happened behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:49

Maybe either way. Uh either way, I don't want my president doing that. I don't want my president like pissing off half of its nation on purpose. Like can we when you say you're trolling people, what you're doing is you're making you're pissing people off on purpose. That's what trolls do. And then the rest of them laugh at them. I don't want my president doing that. Who why why would you want that?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:10

I'm okay. I'm okay with it. Don't do anything. I would prefer the the president not do anything and be more of a mascot than anything else.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:21

Yeah, more of a puppet, a front man.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:24

No, no, no, no, just a mascot. Just uh, you know, get us like, hey, it's 4th of July, watch me. Like that's yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:35

And like they do that, like Bills games will have our mascot fight your mascot. Yes, yes, that's 4th of July. It's just it's just this big guy in a red coat, and they come out and they have like a choreographed battle.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:49

That would be great. Yes, please. Oh my gosh. Yeah, well, if you if you if we really want to take over Canadia and make it the 51st state, all right, well, you're gonna have to you're gonna have to fight the Canadians mascot. What would that be? Wayne Gretzky. Wayne.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:13

Wayne Gretzky.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:15

Alright. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:17

You have to beat him in hockey. In hockey?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:20

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:21

It's no it's a fight to the death. Fight to the death. Yeah. You can't you gotta have some stakes if you're taking people's countries. Uh but that's what we should do. Like, that's how we fight wars from now on. It's we dress people up as mascots. It's just one guy going out there. Yeah, that's how we settle disputes. This whole tariff thing, yeah. You get all the mascots together, just fight it out. Whoever wins, they decide what the tariffs are.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:55

Yeah, you know what? It should be like the movie, what is it, step up? They should have to break dance for it. Oh my god, yes. This is how we solve this on the streets. Okay. Yes, I like it. And then other like other countries should be like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:15

Oh my god, that's such a good idea. I love those.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:18

All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

Well, I don't think you I don't think you should be arguing with people online. It's a huge waste of time. I used to do it two years ago. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

You got you got you got bigger fish to fry. No, I don't do it to actually argue points. I do it to troll. Oh, all right. That's so much fun. So you have more in common with Trump than you thought. No, because I do it intentionally.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:51

No, he is too. He's trolling people. Why?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:56

Why? Because it's hilarious. It's so funny. It's really not but it's so funny watching people get upset that Trump is sending them Trump 2028 hats. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:12

Like that that one is a little bit funny, but I also do think that he if if he he's might try to find a way to run again.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:22

I don't think so. I think he's done.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

I mean, health isn't great, so he might expire by then anyway, but well, that didn't stop Biden. Yeah, because they would check up on him when he's he's probably laying at the bottom of the stairs somewhere. I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:40

But I apparently, like, Hunter Biden is in a ton of debt and he can't pay his lawyers for the gun charge, and he's left the country because he can't pay his lawyers. So apparently, that whole conspiracy theory about Biden going up picking up bags of cash from other countries for favors from his dad, not true. Unless dad's just like, fuck you, son, get out of here. You're an embarrassment. Go paint some pictures.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

Yeah, maybe. But that that kind of shit is so annoying. And that's why that's why like we all didn't like Biden either. Uh I don't know. There's just something about a guy that spends too much time in politics, though, that they have an angle somewhere, and they're there's they're they've had backhand backdoor deals of corruption all over the place. I think there should almost be a term limit on that. He's been a part like Biden's been a part of politics since like the 60s.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:40

Oh, yeah. Since yeah, since 1910.

unknown 1:13:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:47

Anyways, I hate all these people. Yeah, me too. Actually, um, that's on I've been preparing something for a while. I'm not gonna get into it, but I it's probably gonna be in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna unleash it because it's something that I want to talk about. It'll be one of those nobody's talking about it type things, is how sweet the level of corruption in the Trump administration. Um, because everybody's like, oh, he's a he's corrupt, but I don't think you actually understand the level of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:20

It's wild. No, I can't wait to I can't wait to find out more about this.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:24

All right, well, stay tuned. All right, we well, oh geez, we we why how'd we get so how'd we get so uh late? All right, oh I don't know how much time we got. Uh let's we've got 15 minutes. No, that's enough time. We can't we gotta stop talking about Trump because uh it just all right, let's go. So things I hate. I'm gonna do this really fast, okay? I hate myself. I wish I wasn't like this. I wish that when somebody is doing something weird, I can just suck it the fuck up and just be like, oh, that person's weird. But for some odd reason, I just have to say something. And if I don't, like it just bothers me for sometimes days. Um and it's just wild. Like the the lady who was trying to pass me at Costco, uh, there I almost had no choice but to say something to her. Like my my brain, and maybe even my heart just would not allow me to stay quiet. And I don't understand it. Most people are just like, uh, you know, whatever. Uh you know, they're she's rude, but just let it go. I can't. I can't let it go. And I wish I could.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:53

But think about the service that you're providing for other strangers in the future when this person decides to act like an asshole.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:00

No, no, because people don't learn. They don't change.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:04

I mean, maybe she won't, maybe she will, maybe she won't. I know it would help if someone said something to her.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:09

Maybe I it that is the one advantage to being me, is I have no problem telling people how I feel about anything. Um, and I will say whatever's on my mind. And you always know where how I feel about you. There's no there's no like, you're never like, ah, does Eric like me? Does he not like me? Um he doesn't like you.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

Yeah, that's true. You know for sure. You have to wonder about it. And it can change. It can change. You can become accepting, but you know if you have. Yeah, that's uh that's I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:50

That's the thing I hate though. Yeah, today.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:52

I don't think you should hate yourself. Today was rough.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:57

That was rough, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:59

But it also brings great stories and great joy to the podcast. I think you're very very much like Larry David in this way, and he doesn't hate himself. I know, but Larry David makes a lot of money. Yeah, that's true. He makes a lot of money. And I he's got a new show coming out, and I can't wait for it. Oh, he does? Yes, it's called like uh uh it's like an incomplete history of the US or something like that. It's like sketch comedy, but he's they're gonna like spoof like historical events. Alright. I the clips I've seen so far are pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:32

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:34

I um you know I worked at a place, everybody called me Costanza. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, everybody called me Costanza, and I was like, oh, could he stop this, please?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

Well, I guess I gotta quit working here.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:52

Oh shit. Yeah. Well, it didn't matter, right? I got fired, I got fired. I tried to roofie my boss on the way out.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:02

Did you just go Costanza?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:05

Yeah. Believe it or not, George isn't at home, so leave a message.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:14

Uh classic. Classic.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:17

All right. Yours, all right. I hate, I don't why are you so mad?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:24

Ah, the the South doesn't deserve hockey. They have football. You have your thing. So all like the Carolina Pan, like the Carolina Hurricanes, they beat us in the playoffs in like 2007, and their arena still wasn't sold out. It doesn't mean anything to your community for you guys to be good at this. It doesn't mean like you guys don't even care. Texas, the Dallas Stars, you guys don't give a shit about hockey there. You know how I know that? Because you're Texas. You wouldn't care about hockey. You don't care. Why do you have a team and why are they consistently good? You they got a terrible no-call, the no goal on Buffalo to win the Stanley Cup against us in 1999. And then ever since then, you still have cared about hockey the exact same amount, which is just above zero. So you don't deserve to have these teams and all of these players. Now we're out in Las Vegas. I don't even know they can't even maintain the ice there. It's like a significant problem there to maintain the ice on in the arena because it is so goddamn hot all the time. And nobody goes to their games because they're not great anymore. Their first season, when they were like, they got all these players from their expansion draft, and they were like fantastic, and they go to the cup, they don't win it, but then they go again the next year and they win that. That was fabulous. Since then, no one gives a shit. The sphere opens.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:54

This is so good. This is so good. I like they don't give a shit. Do I I don't know. I don't know because I'm not a hockey fan, but like if no one goes to the games, right? If no one went to a um uh Dallas Star game ever for an entire season, what would happen?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:19

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:21

Here's the interesting thing. Like, would they close shop? Would they move to another town? Because no, it depends. Like, obviously, somebody must care because they're going to the games, right? But also, yeah, how could they care? Like, in the South, it's football. Football is this yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:39

Here's the thing the TV rights, like just much like the NFL, it gets split up in hockey. But in hockey, the individual organization only profits if you go to the playoffs. Otherwise, it's basically break-even. So all those extra ticket sales and merchandise sales, concessions, all that, that ends up you know being your majority of your profit. So if nobody went to a Dallas Stars game, it doesn't really matter. They're getting the money from the TV, TV anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:07

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

That it would be significantly less in ticket sales, but I don't really know how much that really matters in the grand scheme. Now, zero, if we're talking like zero people, like empty warehouse, they probably probably wouldn't take long. But if we're talking like uh if it holds 50,000, you know, what say 17,000 people and only 5,000 are showing up, probably doesn't matter all that much for a while. And then but if they're in the playoffs, then people show up. So I don't know, probably doesn't really matter.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:39

I don't know. It's really strange.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:41

It's really strange. I just know like the Florida Panthers are a good team, and their arena's not even sold out. Right. I know that Buffalo has lost for 14 years and it would take a long time for us to resell out again. But as soon as they started picking up steam, they started like sell out, sell out, sell out, awesome crowds. Now, I mean, tickets for the tonight's playoff game, so I didn't get one. They start at $600 a ticket.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:10

Oh, that's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:12

The demand is so high.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:14

Wow. Okay. Jeez.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:19

Well, here so here's another question.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:23

All right, so like let's say you're in Florida, you don't have a AC. Go to a hockey game. Maybe that's what's what's keeping the lights on. You know? They don't have AC. They just have ceiling fans.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:41

I was looking at I was looking at houses the other day, and um when I like looking through the details, it was like cooling, it just said ceiling fans. I was like, you must like just say NA. You're bragging about you're bragging about ceiling bands. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:07

Yeah, I mean, at this day and age, if you're moving into a house without AC, don't don't don't you get that house.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:14

Well, that's all all around here. The housing market is shit. All the houses are so old, none of them have AC. It's crazy, it's so strange to me. Like that is strange. Wait, you're you really want to sell me a house for $650,000, but there's no AC? Bitch, take $75,000 off that shit, because I'm not buying your shitty house. It's hot in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:42

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:42

I don't want to live there. It's hot in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:47

For real, though. For real. Oh my god. Yeah, shit's crazy. But good luckily, we raised tariffs on all lumber it can bring coming to this country, so it's more expensive to buy a house. So that should make sure alleviate some of that pressure. Yeah, it was already it was already too expensive to buy a house. It was.

unknown 1:24:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:09

Are you are you gonna are you continuing to looking just in your area or are you like expanding out?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:14

No, we were looking all over. Like uh uh anything from where we are north, so we could be closer to work. Um nothing like south of us because um our you know our commute's like 40 minutes. Yeah, it's hard, man. Yeah, so but I mean, they're just so I it's wild to me because I don't know what it is if my expectations are wrong, and maybe I need to sit down with someone, but I just can't imagine buying a home, like three beds, one and a half baths with no AC anywhere close to a half a million dollars. Doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, no, that doesn't make sense. No, it's crazy. So what like we've been thinking, do we build a house? Um, but that's gonna be just as expensive, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:09

Yes. Uh we ran into that problem too. When we built our house, the my thought was, okay, it's a brand new house in 30 years from now, the market, what would that look like? It's buying you you could buy yourself a lot of time as opposed to buying something that might be a little bit cheaper, but by the time you update it and add AC, you're at the half a million anyway, but that house is already 50 years old. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:33

I don't know. I just feel like it's a lose-lose. I'm always like, well, all my things are in here. We can just nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:41

Just stay, it's a lovely room. Yeah, just stay here. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:46

There's no place like there's no place for people to sleep if they want to visit, though. Well, they sleep outside. Oh, well, no, I just put a blanket and pillowcase in the bathtub, and you know, that seems like tremendous. Yeah, that's good. That's fine. All right. Well, we've got five minutes. If you got a last sip.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:11

Man, I really don't. I'm sure in my travels I will I will have something. Where are you where are you going? Disney and then Florida. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:24

Um, oh, you're going to Disney, huh? Oh, man. Yeah. I'm gonna I I I might send you a a list and some money.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:34

Oh, believe me. We just sat down to talk about what rides were going on, and I have already thought about what I'm gonna get you and send your way.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:42

Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:44

Yeah. All right. You gotta have something from the Star Wars. The Star Wars store in Disney. I know. Last time we went to it would be nice to know if there's something. Yeah, yeah. I'll look. Would be nice to know if if there's something in your collection you might need.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:00

Yeah, we went to Disney when we were at Disney Springs that way that that time. When we were waiting to go to um the cruise, which was terrible. Um, I was so overwhelmed by the amount of Star Wars things, I did ended up not getting anything. I was so I was like, oh my god, look at all the Star Wars stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:21

Yeah, I couldn't believe it.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:24

Yeah, so if there's something in the collection you're you you're looking for, happy to pick that up. But I am gonna, I'm getting I'm gonna find a surprise to get you as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:32

All right, sounds great. Um, if anybody has any suggestions, just leave them in the comments to all the people listening because we've got listeners.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:41

Yeah, tell me what Eric needs in his Star Wars collection. Maybe he'll post a photo of his collection so you can check it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:48

Oh, I should do that for the gram. Yeah, hell yeah. I'll have Paige take the pictures. She always says says I take terrible pictures of the office.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:59

You know what? You take a picture and have Paige take a picture and then you have everyone vote on which who's they think it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:05

Okay. I took a picture of our meal last night and I was like, maybe I should post this to the gram and be like, this is podcast fuel. But then I was like, this is dumb, I'm drunk. What did you make? No, uh when we were out to uh dinner.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:23

Oh, I see. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:29

Wild.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:31

I made Mary Me Chicken today. Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:36

Yeah. That's good. Sam's working tonight, so I'm just gonna kind of like whip something together that's simple.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:44

Oh, that's our meal prep. I think what I'm gonna do for dinner is ice cream.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:51

With gummy bears. No, no gummy bears. I I'm I'm really I'm um what's the word? I'm craving some Ben and Jerry's milk and cookies.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:05

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:07

Well, it's gotta it's gotta happen. Make it happen, bud.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:09

Alright. Well, I'm glad we got to do this. I appreciate everybody listening. Like, subscribe, comment, and support our nonsense, please. Lower your fucking expectations and just watch us. Damn it. Son of a bitch. Son of a all right. All right, bye everybody, Woogie Boogie.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:30

Bye, Woogie Boogie.