2 Guys No Credentials

EP013 | The NBA Is Soft, Airport Chaos & School Bus Stops Gone Too Far

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In this episode of 2 Guys No Credentials, we return from a short break and immediately prove that time away has not made us smarter.

Jeff celebrates the Buffalo Sabres winning their first playoff series since 2007, which sends us down a rabbit hole of old cell phones, the first iPhone, and what life looked like before everything became terrible in high definition.
Then things fall apart in the usual way.

We get into:
Jeff’s airport nightmare trying to get home from Florida
The Sarasota airport apparently not knowing what radios are
Erik’s diner regret and seeing someone from high school in public
Whether seafood belongs anywhere near a diner
James Carville, political hypocrisy, and both parties trying to rig the game
Billionaires, taxes, loopholes, and whether any of us actually know what we’re talking about
Why the NBA feels soft now
Kobe, LeBron, hockey players, and load management
School bus stops getting completely out of control
A very serious discussion about which ice is superior

Two guys. No credentials.
Strong opinions. Questionable facts.
Somehow still allowed to record.

2 Guys No Credentials
Two guys. No credentials. Lower your expectations.

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Welcome to Two Guys No Credentials.

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We're two completely unqualified people. Talk about nothing.

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And everything. Like we know what we're doing. Spoiler. We don't. Here we go again.

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Why is it doing this? I didn't I just oh we're back.

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Well, sometimes uh our phones have Tourette's, and you know, it's nothing to be ashamed of. It's a condition people deal with, and you know, it's just part of who we are.

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At least my phone's not at an award gathering and yelling racial slurs, so that's a thing.

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And if you're wondering what we're talking about, go back and check out episode four.

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Oh man, I don't even know what to do right now. How do we do this? How did we ever do this? I don't even remember.

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I don't know. It's been so long. We've been on a little hiatus. I was away on vacation. Uh, we'll talk about that in a little bit, but I do have an exciting update if you want to jump right in. Yeah, let's go. The Buffalo Sabres have won their first playoff series since 2007. Let's go. Fucking get it. Let's go. Gotta be honest, they handled Boston. Although they lost a couple of games in the series, they had they had the their time of possession was almost double that of Boston's. The shots on goal were almost double that of Boston's the entire series. And so like I'm feeling really good going in now against Montreal, but 2007 was a long time ago. So I thought it'd be fun to take a little trip down uh history lane here and uh talk about what the world was like in 2007. Let's do it. I'm here for it. Yeah, man. What were you doing in 2007?

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Uh I was in Japan drinking samurai water, going to buy me drink me bars, doing karaoke, eating tons of sushi and dioza and um not having sex.

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Yeah. I was in seventh grade.

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You're really swear to God. Oh man. Yeah, I was getting shit housed in the land of the samurai.

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In the land of the samurai. Well, that sounds significantly cooler than what I was doing.

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I mean, I like social studies.

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Social studies is alright. Um, Spanish. Here we go. Didn't care for it. Oh, it's to Betsy. And we're live.

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Evans to Betsy. Um, if you're wondering what a buy me drink me bar is, I'll explain really fast. Um so you walk into this, you walk into this place, um, it's dimly lit, and there's an old woman, Japanese maybe, and to the right of you, in this particular buy me drink me bar, to the right, as you walk in, there's all these girls um dressed up and standing in a line, and you walk through the line, you pick one, and these girls will sit with you and drink and drink with you and chit-chat and stuff as long as you keep buying them drinks.

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Okay, so it's real life Pokemon Go. Yeah.

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Here I but the camera's not working again. Now it's back. Now it's back.

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You know what this is reminding me of? It's reminding me of uh uh Mallratz, where he just interrupts a conversation and he goes, the kid is on the damn escalator again.

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Well, eventually it's gonna get tired.

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So yeah, well, I hope the shoelace gets caught and a bloodbath ensues. That is a deep cut reference. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you this is not the podcast for you.

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Is that Mallratz too?

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Yeah, Jason Lee. Most people don't know. He was a pro skateboarder before he became an actor.

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Oh. I had no idea. I don't even know who Jason Lee is.

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He ended up being My Name is Earl.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Mallratz, great movie. Snoochie Boochies. Okay. So, back on track here. 2007. A couple things going on in the world. Netflix had just introduced streaming. Before that point, there was just DVDs by mail. Nice. I mean, crazy. Uh Google had bought DoubleClick, which is like the way uh online advertising like happens now. They were like on the brink of that because by Google was just a simple search engine, but then allowing like the advertising space, which is what like Facebook ended up picking up and why that was free. 2007, great year for that. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows was released.

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No way.

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That year?

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The book or the movie?

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The movie, of course. Holy crap. I know. Wow. Think about it. Um, the show Mad Men debuted in 2007.

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All right. I still haven't seen it.

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I oh man, I tried to watch that show maybe three or four different times. Everyone has told me how amazing that show is. I found it incredibly boring. Acting is amazing, I will say, but it's it was very boring. Um, keeping up with the Kardashians premiered in 2007, and last but not least, the first iPhone was launched.

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No.

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The Sabres. The Sabres haven't won a playoff series since the iPhone was launched. Wow. Yeah, and back then, that was just the launch of it. It still didn't have um uh like uh the app store or anything yet. It didn't have its full functionality, it was just released.

SPEAKER_05

That's incredible. What it was was it the the little the little tiny brick?

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It was the little tiny brick with the black uh back, and it was like rounded. Wow.

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I didn't have an iPhone. I had a I had a razor.

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Oh, I had a razor. Yeah.

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What was cool about those days though, everybody's cell phone matched their personality a little bit. Now it's all just iPhone or Droid. Back then it was like it was like the LG chocolate, there was I had an LG Shine, there was the uh Voyager, there was like the ones that you would like slide the phone sideways and be a whole keyboard there. Like everyone's everyone had like a different phone. It was kind of neat because it kind of matched that person.

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I don't know. Wait a second. You had a phone in seventh grade? Yeah, I was doing pretty well from day one. What are you you selling drugs?

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I don't know. I actually when I think about how crazy it was that I had a cell phone back then. Um I don't know what my parents were thinking at the time, but uh like I don't maybe it was just because my older brother had a cell phone because he was like driving at that point. I don't really know. Um but yeah, I was doing all right. Who are you calling? Uh nobody really. Honestly, I think it was just to like get me home from like practices. I'd like to call my dad practices over and then he would come pick me up. Alright.

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Yeah.

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Like the like the violin?

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Well, uh baseball.

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Oh sports.

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Yeah, man. So I mean that that's my update. It was really cool being on vacation watching the sabers play hockey while we had like the windows open and the ocean breeze blowing through. Really cool experience. Never in my life have I experienced that.

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That's pretty awesome. I really appreciate you taking us for a trip in your time machine.

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Thanks, dude.

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Yeah, had a great time. Um, congratulations to the Sabres.

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Yeah, dude, here we go. Let's win another round. They're favorited in the next round that they're in. So hopefully they can go even further. It'd be really great.

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That'd be awesome. And uh thanks to the Boston Fighting Irish, is that what they're called?

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Might as well be, yeah.

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Okay, thanks for playing. Um, but your team is rubbish, that's what they call garbage in Boston.

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Yeah, well, at least they had fun.

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That's what counts in professional sports.

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I'm told, yeah. At least they had fun. They finished dead last, but they had fun.

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Um I have a couple of updates. Um, firstly, I want to apologize for getting so excited about Aaron Rodgers retiring. It's not true, and the internet tricked me. So got that wrong.

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Um, I was pardons, thousand pardons, thousand pardons.

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Uh Aaron Rodgers can still go fuck himself. Um, uh, yeah. I also wanted to add something to our Gavin Newsom discussion. Um, it was reported that Gavin Newsom sold 97,000 copies of his memoir, which is pretty great, right? Good for him. It was also reported that his pack set spent 1.5 million dollars on the book. So they bought two-thirds of his book sales.

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So Gavin Newsom's like, yeah, that's also how my band made $25 from Spotify once. Yeah.

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Gavin Newsom.

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Oh yeah, Gavin Newsom. We're a big fan. Uh yeah, we we just streamed all of our own music for like a week straight.

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Oh, that's awesome. Uh can we do that here on like YouTube or is that will that work? What do you mean? If we just like like constantly listen to our own podcast, we'll finally think we're getting listeners. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start that now. I'm gonna go get a bunch of burner phones.

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Yeah, well, what what we did at the time, because things are a little bit different because the algorithms were what they are now. What we did is we had a bunch of friends, like as they were sleeping, like play it and then turn the volume off so that it would just like play on repeat for eight hours.

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That's amazing. And you only made 25 bucks.

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Yeah, yeah. There uh there was a band though. So Spotify ended up changing this rule. There was a band out there that was like short on cash flow, so they released an album of just silence, and it was like 55 songs on this album, and it was just there was nothing, and they did that so that if you would like people could just play it, or they would play it just 24 hours a day. They just like left a phone or whatever for like a year, they just like let it run to get all these streams and downloads. Yeah, Spotify figured it out, and now you have to have like some audio within the first 30 seconds of your song.

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Wow, that's amazing.

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I love that. Yeah, oh my gosh.

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All right, cool updates though. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, uh, still an immunized tool. But he is immunized, he is immunized.

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All right, uh, what do we got? We got some regrets. I got a regret. Get it. Wow. So my mom was visiting uh last week. Uh so she wanted to go out to breakfast with my in-laws. So where do we go? A fucking diner. And we all know how I feel about diners.

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But if you don't know how it feels about diners, check out episode seven.

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Exactly. Um but so we sit down at the diner, and I'm like, why the fuck? Why are we here? This is so dumb. And um somebody from high school that I know is our waiter, and he's almost unrecognizable, but I I recognize him because I have like a great brain for faces that I don't want to see. And I was just like, oh my god, I'm just gonna pretend. I'm just gonna pretend I have no idea who this person is. I'm just gonna pretend. Um, and so I'm like, Paige, I know I like I whisper to her. I'm like, I know, I know this person. And my sister's like, you know him, you know, you know, you know him, and like everybody's making a big deal about it, and I'm like, shut the fuck up, shut up, everybody. Shut up. Oh my god. I I hate the diner. That's so stupid.

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I'm still kind of hung up. Uh I have a great mind, uh, a great memory for faces that I don't want to see. Oh shit. That's really good. Yeah, it's so funny though. Sam will do that to me too. We're like be in public and I'll be like talking shit about this guy in the red hat. I'd be like, dude, check out that guy in the red hat.

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And she's like, what about that guy in the red hat?

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That's what she sounds like too. That was perfect.

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Yeah, I've been working on it. All right. Doing it in front of the mirror.

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Um, yeah, but going to the diner for breakfast, it was nice to see everybody, but we could have picked a nicer, classier place. That didn't you don't have to go to a diner for breakfast.

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You can go to like a different place for breakfast.

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Oh, I mean, we did order a whole lobster, so that's the thing.

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That is I this has to be a poll that we put up, by the way, on social media. Do can you or can you not order lobster at a diner?

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At this particular diner, no. I checked the menu, but you could get crab cakes or shrimp cocktail. Shrimp cocktail? This is this is unheard of. No, this is this is uh this is a New England diner.

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Okay, well, you've you you did justify this is a New England diner thing. This is not a diner thing.

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Well, I mean, it could be a Jersey diner thing. I've never I I I'd have to go check it out.

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What I can probably guarantee is it's definitely not an Idaho diner thing. No, they have potatoes only, they don't even have eggs there. I know, I know sure as shit they don't have internet. No, nobody has internet. Not in Idaho, they're still worried about Y2K.

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Wait a second. If they don't have oh no, Y2K wasn't an internet thing. How do you how do you remember Y2K? Huh? I remember, I remember um like I went to visit Joe in Long Island, um, and we were out on a boat, and all the adults were talking about Y2K. This is like 1997. And this guy is talking about how like to the adults that his job is to go into big companies and fix their computers uh and get them ready for Y2K, and he's like, Yeah, these fucking idiots just throwing cash at me for a problem that isn't really a problem. And like they're all laugh, they're all laughing about it.

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Yeah, now you realize that's what Peter Gibbons was doing in the movie office space. What do you mean? Basically, what he was doing was converting the software to get ready for the 2000 switch.

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Oh, yes, yeah, yeah.

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Basically, what they were doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. I forgot about that. Even Peter Gibbons knew that wasn't a problem.

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Yeah, no, yeah. Well, I don't know. This guy made a lot of money, apparently. He was laughing all the way to the bank.

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Yeah, I mean, it's it is funny though, because like I can understand a little bit of like where it started, right? Well, everything was coded in like the two-digit year, like 99 instead of 1999. So switching that to 2000 was just, oh, oh, I can see how that would cause like a software problem. But I think that was like the first like um viral social media sensation, one of the first ones, right? Where like it just went viral and it just took out a life of its own. Like all the grids are gonna shut down, there's gonna be nuclear war, everyone's gonna get herpes.

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Yeah, yeah. And they did.

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Yeah, everyone got herpes.

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Yeah, Elon Musk cured it though when he bought PayPal. Yeah. He also cured rickets. Did you know that? Like the person? Rick? No, rickets.

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Oh, rickets, yes.

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Rickets, rickets. Full full disclosure, I don't even know what rickets is. I just think that word is hilarious.

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It's it's like when you sit down on a um like a like a wicker chair, and it kind of it gets all rickety.

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Yeah, and you get splinters up the behind.

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Yes.

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Yeah, I read that somewhere.

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Yeah. All right. Well, that went, that was a weird tangent. We really gotta bring it back.

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All right. I I I have to rant about something. Oh boy, you know me. I don't really have regrets. Things are usually pretty great. So I was in Florida this past week. We had a very nice time, took my niece to Disney World, and she had an absolute blast. She's four, so like it was awesome to see her like through her lens. All of it is real and all of it is exciting. It was really, really cool. Then we spent a couple of days there and spent the week in Siesta Key, one of my favorite vacation spots, one of the best beaches in the entire world. We're we're there. Um, then coming home, never had a problem with flights ever. Uh, especially getting back to Buffalo. It's really, really simple. Except for this time, our flight gets canceled, except it never really got canceled. So we get on, we board the plane, we're sitting on the tarmac for two and one half hours. And we still have not taken off. There is the only rainstorm that Florida has had in like two months happening right now. Of course. So we're sitting there and they keep they have to give us an update every half hour, which is, I guess, the law, but all they give us an update on is when the next update will become. So they're not saying anything, which is pissing me off even more. Uh so we just continue waiting, continue sitting, then they decide, okay, we're gonna go back to the gate. Anyone that wants to get off can get off. Anyone that wants to stay on can stay on. So I look at my my parents are on the safe light. I look at them, I look at my wife. I'm like, we're out of here. So the problem I had is that I played a show that the next day. I had it scheduled or for Sunday. We're trying to come home Saturday. So I need to get home and get this moving. So credit to my incredible wife for like making it her mission to figure this out and get me home, and she totally did. But when we're going, we we go up to the counter and she's talking with that lady who has no clue what's going on. Um, nobody really does. We're talking to all these different people. Everybody that works at the Sarasota airport has no idea what's going on, and they don't care to. They do not give a shit to know. None of them know what anyone else's job is or what they're supposed to do. So we're standing there at this counter. I can see the plane, and they're unloading our luggage. So I'm like, okay, if they're taking the luggage off of the plane, that means the flight's gonna be canceled. So we switch our flights around. We we don't know where we're gonna stay because all the hotels are booking up, all the flights are canceling. So we're trying to figure all of this out in the midst of understanding are we gonna actually get a refund for this because you guys canceled the flight, which hasn't still happened. So finally we decide, okay, we'll just stay an extra night. We'll get the next flight out in the morning. There's a connection at like noon, but my show starts at three. So it's gonna be tight, right?

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Yeah.

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Uh I'm like, okay, let me go get a rental car because it's gonna be way better than an Uber right now. It was cheaper. So I run down to get a rental car. That guy has no clue what's going on either. So I'm asking him, I we know, I did the thing as I'm walking down there. I got it all set up online. They have a car for me. I get down there, there ain't no car. He doesn't know where the car is. So then he decides to radio to one of the In the back and says, Hey, I need you to bring up the keys for this car. And he radios four times with no response because that guy also doesn't know what's going on and doesn't care to. So finally, he pulls out his cell phone and then calls the guy, and the guy answers immediately. Like, why didn't we start there?

SPEAKER_05

That's hilarious. And then I just hear ignoring the radio, but he's like, Oh, somebody's calling my phone.

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Yeah. So then I hear the guy, I hear the conversation, and the guy on the other end was like, Hey, why didn't you use the radio? And I was like, I the first guy is like, Oh, I did. He's like, Well, what channel are you radioing me on? And he's like, channel seven. He's like, Oh, why are you using channel seven? He's like, That's the channel you told me to use when I started here. So now I know the guy at the counter has only been here for a matter of days. And so the other guy's like, oh, yeah, it was channel seven, but it's six now. So no one decided to maybe tell the other employees that we now use a different channel. Regardless, bring me the fucking keys.

SPEAKER_04

Well, why not why not channel one? It's so funny. Why not channel one? Just start there.

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So, yeah, right? Uh, so he tells me, okay, he's bringing the car up. Go stand in this spot. It's next to the kiosk. You'll get the car right away. So I go up there. I'm there at the time they said I was gonna be up there. Nobody's there. Nobody's driving up. So I knock on the little kiosk window and I ask the lady in there, hey, I'm supposed to be getting a car up here right now. I hand her my thing. I'm like, do you know where this is? And she goes, Oh no, I have no idea. So this person doesn't know either, and she doesn't care to. Whatever. Half hour later, I got the car. We drove to a place we were gonna stay overnight. Next morning, we get up real early because we have to get to the airport right away. We get on that flight. That goes really well. The weather's fine, we're okay, but another bone I have. Every airplane almost ever has space for you to put your little backpack right under the seat, except for this one. And there's no space in the compartments because morons are putting their fucking jackets in there, or they're putting like their little like handbag up in there. So now there's no room. That space is for luggage only. You have a backpackage to go under your seat because apparently there's some seats on this fucking plane that have apparate. That's plural of apparatus, right? That you don't allow you to fit your shit in there like it's supposed to go. So now I have my one bag up in a compartment that's like really far away. And my other backpack bag doesn't fit under here, so now I gotta figure out where it's gonna fit in the fucking plane.

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I don't want to yell.

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So, anyways, we get to the connecting flight, but even before this. Uh, the funniest part, I am on edge, very worried that I'm about to not get home and that I'm gonna disappoint hundreds of people that were depending on this because it was a charity event that we're playing. And so, like a big part of that is drawing people in the ticket sales, like it was important that I was there. So we land the first flight and we roll up to the gate, and then the pilot says, Um, we're gonna get delayed a little bit here. The per the person that does the jet bridge missed. They missed the door, and so now it's gonna take an extra 10 minutes for them to realign it so that he can. I dude, I have this has never been a problem at an airport ever. No one's ever like the plane rolls up, and then the person adjusts the jet bridge and then just completely misses the door and walks away. What is going on? So now I'm freaking out because we have like 10 minutes to get off this flight and then to the connecting flight to get back to Buffalo. So we get off the plane, we haul ass over there, and finally we got back. I got a drive from the airport to my house. My amazing parents, they're like, don't even worry about us. You go, you just land, run to the car, we'll get an Uber separately to get home. Oh, that's and yes, and I had my brother, who was awesome, come to my house, package up all of my shit so that I could just come home, grab it, and go. All that worked out swimmingly. I got to the venue with like an hour to spare. We went on and played an awesome show, and then I drank a bunch of beers and then I went home. Fucking nice. What a nightmare. It was, dude. I was freaking out. Because this is the first show that we've played uh with with my main band in a really long time, and I wanted to use this as a catalyst to get back out there. Um, and so for for me to to miss this and disappoint all those people was really weighing on me, but went off without a hitch. The show went great, it was a good crowd, and um, you know, they raised a decent amount of money for the organization.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's great. Yeah, the videos you showed me, it looked like you guys crushed it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, it was just fun to be back up there.

SPEAKER_04

Awesome. Well, I'm sorry you had to deal with all those.

SPEAKER_05

I can't, I'm not allowed to say the word. Those fucking JOs. The JOs? The JOs. Yeah, I don't understand why I can't like come on. You don't know what channel you are? Like, you gotta be special.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's just crazy because like in the South, no one moves, like, no one is in a hurry, no one's gotta be anywhere on time, which is crazy because you all work in an airport where like the whole thing is being on time.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but it's on the the Sarasota airport.

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Yeah, I mean there were many problems. So when I went to go get the car, they said, Oh, you gotta go to the check-in counter at the front of the airport to receive all of your bags instead of baggage claim, which I thought is really stupid too. Why don't you throw them into the baggage claim? We'll get our bags. No. So they get up there, we get it's Sam was handling this. She gets two of our bags, they have no clue where the other ones are.

SPEAKER_04

Wow. Wow. Well, I'm glad you made it home.

SPEAKER_05

Glad you made it home. I'm glad you crushed it. Um, and I'm glad for the um the event. Hopefully they um hopefully they uh got a bunch of cash, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. It's a it's a cool time. They have like little raffle prizes and everything. So I think they reason they raise a decent amount. Um, we'll uh we'll put some like videos and photos up on our socials when I get all that all that stuff back. So you guys can check it out too. I love it. Thanks for letting me rant.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, of course, dude. I love it. Um, it was so much better than my diner experience. Um but uh we should really move on. Um, NBA playoffs or James Carville? Mine's short.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I want to hear about James.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, all right. Well, the Raging, the Raging Cajun, James Carville. Rage and Cajun. Um I think I this was on vacation. A lot happened while you were gone. Um, but I'm not exactly sure when he did this. It was either it was either last week or the week before. But he said that the plan should be to, if the Democrats take control of the House, the Senate, and the presidency to give DC and Puerto Rico statehood, pack the Supreme Court, and open the borders. Like that, he said it out loud.

SPEAKER_04

He said it out loud. I don't want that to be the plan.

SPEAKER_05

I think it's a terrible plan. You do all of that stuff, right? And boom, next thing you know, I've got blue hair, a nose ring, and somehow I'm pregnant. Which is biologically, it would be pretty impressive, but also terrifying.

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Um yeah, I don't want that to be the plan at all. I consider myself a Democrat. That is not at all what I would want to happen.

SPEAKER_05

I know it's pretty wild right now um what's going on between the Republicans and the Democrats with all the um predistrict redistricting, the Supreme Court, but he straight up said this is what we need to do. And it's funny because this is the party of the No Kings, but they seem to want to control everything.

SPEAKER_04

So isn't that just G isn't that just gerrymandering? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_05

To give Puerto Rico and DC statehood kind of, but not exactly because like it's like a big version of gerrymandering because they know DC it's f just filled with leftists. And then Puerto Rico, same thing. So if that that's gonna give them so many congressional seats that um like no matter what happened, um a Democrat would always win the presidency.

SPEAKER_03

So this is what I hate about the Democratic Party, though, is I have a big problem with you trying to call out hypocrites on the right and then be a hypocrite.

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I know.

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That is literally the definition of hypocrite.

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Yeah, that you you did it.

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Like I did it, nailed it.

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If you looked in the dictionary and looked up the word hypocrite, it would be your phase going like this.

SPEAKER_03

But I mean, it's it's it's but it's frustrating because again, we have a 90-year-old man that like is kind of out of touch with what actually is reality. Um, I don't believe that that is something that most Democrats that are like seriously running would believe in either, at least the ones that I pay attention to and the ones that I would want to vote for. Um, but like the problem is when you say it in a public forum like that, that's what people are gonna believe. And especially people on the right that oppose the left, they're gonna latch onto that because that's a crazy view. And that then they're they they're gonna generalize assumptions, it's gonna cause even more problems.

SPEAKER_05

I just yeah, I don't I it this is the problem though. Like, um I I just don't like what are we what are we what's the goal here? Is the goal to govern, or is the goal to have complete control of all the outcomes every time so you can do whatever the fuck you want without caring about the other 50% of the people in the US who you know lean right, but also let me just say this there's all these 80-20 issues, and the Democrats really are against, you know, they're in that 20%, right? The people who are in power, but 80% of the country, which includes a shit ton of left-leaning people, right, are with this 80, these 80%. So 20% of the country is running the Democratic Party. Does that make sense what I'm saying here? What I'm trying to get at? I'm not sure I totally follow. All right, so immigration, it's an 80-20 issue. The oh the borders, like close them, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. So like 80% of people would agree, close it down, and 20% of people like open it up, and we're listening to the Democrats are like, no, no, let them all in, let them all in.

SPEAKER_05

Like he like obviously that's mainstream now in the Democratic Party.

SPEAKER_03

If James Carville is saying it, so that's that's what's annoying because that's not actually what most Democrats want, and that's why it's so annoying that becomes a spokesperson for it.

SPEAKER_05

Like, look what's happening, like uh your governor, Kathy Fucking Hogel. She's a twat, but mom Donnie is like a radical human being who is actually pushing her to change policies based on his radicalness. So we've got 20% of the population running the Democratic Party.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, at least in the New York example, it's like 80% of our state population.

SPEAKER_05

It's insane. Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but I guess this is what's so fresh about politics in general, though. Like all of them think they should speak instead of all coming together and have a unified message, right? What do we actually want? Because the most Democrats, at least, at least the ones that are like worth anything because of the ones that are going to govern something in the future. Almost all of them believe that we need to control, we need to control the border. Um the but there needs to be reform to the system so that we can ensure immigration at a controllable rate, faster than like the 10, 15 years that it takes right now on average. Um, but also make sure that we're vetting these people properly, make sure that there is documentation so that they can, you know, it uh contribute to the in the way that everyone else does too. Also, there is a bit of fairness to the fact that like if you're gonna come to this country and contribute to our economy, then you should get social benefits. And that should be a thing that we can all do. Um I don't know. The the I I do agree with a pathway towards mass amnesty for the people that are already here because they are contributing into our economy and to remove all of them in the way that Trump originally said he wanted to would have like caused a shock to the economy, I believe. Um, but it didn't really happen that way anyway, so it's like kind of a moot point. Uh but it's just it's just to kind of wrap that up, I guess. It's really, really frustrating to me when instead of coming together to have a unified message, they all just kind of go on their own thing and spew their own beliefs, which may or may not be contradictory to what the Democrats are trying to achieve, because all of their heads are shoved so far up their own asses that they think condescending uh people on the right, they think um they conduct themselves as if they are the party of intelligence, which is incredibly condescending. Um instead of doing all that, maybe we can meet people where we're at, which is why I I feel like I like someone like um what is his name? He was he used to be the transportation secretary. I can't think of his name again.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, Pete Buttedad.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, part of what I like about him is that he is willing to uh go on right-leaning networks and then just talk about like actual values that matter to everybody and talk about why what we think would matter for you or why it would benefit you guys um instead of trying to condescend people.

SPEAKER_05

You know what I think is funny?

SPEAKER_04

You like people that I can't fucking stand, like Pete Buttigieg, what an asshole.

SPEAKER_05

Never accomplished anything ever, but he's gay, right? And like he just ran for president. What did he do? Then he became secretary of transportation, um and did a terrible fucking job, and then he went on um what's it called? Maternity leave and but he's gay. But also you adopted a kid, but also you're the secretary of transportation during COVID when we have all kinds of transportation bottlenecks. Maybe fuck you. Go to work, you asshole. The other thing, too, is he never even told anybody. Oh god, Pete Budaj, what an idiot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I I can I can hear some of that, and I think some of it's valid, but then I would also point out before his first term, what did Trump do?

SPEAKER_04

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03

Six bankrupt uh companies, a fraudulent school, a uh massive um racial lawsuits.

SPEAKER_05

What did he really do? I mean, he also like successful businessman, lots of real estate.

SPEAKER_03

Is he yeah? Because people say that, and most of the companies that he has were previously set up, and then his dad gave him a couple billion dollars.

SPEAKER_05

His dad didn't give him a billion, he gave him a couple million. Yeah, I looked this up when we were having this argument. It was a million, it was a couple million.

SPEAKER_03

I've seen many other conflicting reports, but I'll have to go back and check again. But I I don't know. I I I feel like and to address your point that he wasn't he wasn't there, he took time off to be with his kid. Uh there's nobody that in the presidency has ever taken more time off to play golf than Donald Trump has. So to fly on taxpayer dollar to Mar-a-Lago to play golf and then fly back.

SPEAKER_05

Right, but I mean like he's also he's doing his job. Not when he's golfing. Yeah, he's doing his job. Like, if there's a well, how do you know that Pete Buddha Judge wasn't answering?

SPEAKER_03

How do you know that he wasn't answering emails and his job on he wasn't?

SPEAKER_05

It was a huge, it was a huge thing. Like nobody knew where he was.

SPEAKER_03

Nobody knew where he was?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, you don't remember this? It was a huge thing. Like they're like, where is he? And they're like, oh, he's on maternity leave. You don't remember this?

SPEAKER_01

No, not really.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, nobody knew what the fuck he was doing. Also, like it's kind of an emergency. Maybe like instead of being out of the office for like three months, maybe take a couple weekends off here and there. Like, but also, like, you're not shut up. Like, you're not post you're not postpartum, like, yes, I get you adopted a fucking kid. Like, you want to spend time with your new child, good for you, bro. But also, get your fucking ass to work. And I agree with you, the president shouldn't be fucking golfing, but at least like he didn't disappear for three months at a time. Like, he golfed and he went back.

SPEAKER_03

I see it more as six of one half dozen of the other.

SPEAKER_05

No way. Being being out of the office while you're presiding right during COVID, which was a huge problem when it came to um what's it called? Well, transportation. Yeah, transportation, supply chains, that sort of thing. Like maybe you should be fucking out of work. Maybe like your adopted kid could have could, I don't know, just see you when you get home, have a nice dinner.

SPEAKER_03

But isn't the transportation secretary more in charge of um like uh helping pass policy for new infrastructure and public transportation?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, the there, like the the airlines, uh the port, the ports, that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_03

So when everything was shut, so when everything was shut down and then there's no supply chain, does it really have anything to do?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, because things were still coming in through the ports and stuff like that. Yeah, but what problems were were arising where there was a little I'm not in government and I don't do his job, but I do know this stuff is his responsibility, and yeah, maybe trying to find ways to make it more efficient when it's so bad. I don't know, maybe you could just be there. Yeah, fair enough. I don't know. Anyway, let's get back to James Carville and his fucking plan real quick. Because here's no, it's okay, whatever. Like, I agree with you on the golf thing, but also Pete Buddha judge. Oh, it just drives me nuts. Go to work, bro. Um, but here like here's my issue, okay? Like, this is uh actually a mindset. Republicans are like they're like the Republicans, they're gonna they're gonna destroy the Republic. Democrats, they're you know, destroying democracy. Both parties spend money like it's monopoly money, right? I like they're they're both terrible, but also here we go, they're just saying what the plan is, and we're just gonna take complete control. We're gonna make it so repel republics Republicans can never win. And I I just don't get it. Like, w are we are we idiots? Like Like, that's not what the Republic is was for. Like, things were supposed to be difficult. Like, making policy was supposed to be difficult. Like you're supposed to have an opposition. I just don't drives me nuts.

SPEAKER_03

What most people don't want to talk about is you you we need Republicans to hold presidency. We need Democrats to hold presidency because that's also a system of checks and balances. Like that that and it matters. There are times where uh like a more conservative um economic approach is warranted and needed uh when when Democrats maybe have excessive spending and vice versa. Now it is interesting over the last like 50 or so years that those economic like ideas have kind of swapped. Um I think I think in certain respects the the left is sometimes a little bit more conservative on fiscal spending than the right is in certain areas. When uh military or yeah, that's that's it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but it wasn't always that that the those the liberals are like, yeah, don't spend money on military. Let's spend billions and billions and billions and trillions of dollars on everything else.

SPEAKER_04

Let's give shit away for free.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's not really give shit away. I don't view it as give shit away for free. Um the no, because um, so one of my one of my favorite resources is is the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. Um, because it's it's all just data-driven economic stuff, right? So uh a couple of the pieces of research that they put out um suggests that the more you're able to help like the poor people, the more that they excel, the better your country does in GDP long term.

SPEAKER_05

So so Can I ask you the reason yeah has poverty gone up or down since the war on poverty?

SPEAKER_03

Um I d I don't know if I know the specific answer to that.

SPEAKER_04

It stayed the same.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. After spending trillions and trillions of dollars on welfare programs, uh free health care, um SNAP, all that shit, poverty is the same.

SPEAKER_03

And uh as in terms of percentage?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And how what was the time period? Uh let's see. Well, what did you say, the last 10 years or so?

SPEAKER_05

No, this is like over like 60 years.

SPEAKER_03

The war on poverty? Well, how much has the population increased in that time?

SPEAKER_05

But it it's but the percentage has stayed the same, but the spending has gone up uh exponentially.

SPEAKER_04

Let's look. Because I don't know. 1964, Lyndon Mead Johnson.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. 60 years. I mean, I don't I don't I don't know the the research, I don't have a good answer for that. I do know that there's a lot of other factors that play into that as well. Tax policy changing matters a lot. Part of the reason I think that billionaires should at least pay their sh fair share.

SPEAKER_05

Um the more we get we gotta do this another time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we do because we gotta admit like I agree with you.

SPEAKER_05

The tax code is fucked. Right? Um, but I disagree with you about the billionaires. Like, I uh make them let them be billionaires, make as much money as you want.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, yeah, no, letting them be billionaires is fine. All I want is for them to pay the taxes that they owe. That's it. But they do. No, most of them do not. Yeah, they pay they they pay their taxes. Elon Musk, Elon Musk has paid the most taxes in American history, but it's still not even close to what he actually should owe. Because of other because of yeah, this really does have to be another time. But I have an inherent problem with being able to use your shares in a company as collateral when we can't tax you on it no matter what. So his net his net worth is extremely high, obviously. He doesn't actually have that cash, his net worth is is is high. So when he went to go buy Twitter, um, well, prior to Twitter, he's like, Well, you can't tax me on any of my shares because it's not money that's realized. Yeah, but yeah, and that's fine. But he bought Twitter with his shares, and I'm like, Well, but I thought you didn't have it. So you do have it, we can't tax you on it, but you can use it as collateral for some for another purchase, and then when you make that purchase, we can't tax you on the capital gains on that either, because you didn't use money that you owe. So, no, he did not pay his fair share of taxes in the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars. But there was no money. That that's the argument, right? I'm totally okay with that.

SPEAKER_05

I don't I am not I'm completely okay with this, and here's why I'm okay with it. Let's say we're like, all right, we're gonna start um taxing you, right, on a percentage of your assets, right? Your unrealized gains.

SPEAKER_04

What is every billionaire going to do?

SPEAKER_03

Tell me.

SPEAKER_04

They're gonna leave.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but that's not what I'm suggesting, though. I am suggesting, no, no, no, I'm not. I am not saying that we're we're just gonna arbitrarily tax you on unrealized gains.

SPEAKER_05

He used his ass. He used his asset, right? He used his, I'm sorry, I cut you off. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, I'm just saying that I don't think you should be able to use that asset and like stock, right? Without paying the capital gains tax before you use it as currency.

SPEAKER_05

But he didn't. He used it as collateral to get money and then bought it.

SPEAKER_04

That's current.

SPEAKER_03

That's yeah, that this is typically I I I feel it's really different.

SPEAKER_05

This is just a loophole, right?

SPEAKER_03

But that's the problem, right? Here's my so many tax loopholes that they can utilize instead of just paying the tax like everyone else. I wouldn't use that loophole.

SPEAKER_05

I right, but my here's my here's the scary thing. Um you buy you buy a house for $50,000 in 1973. You've lived in that house forever, it's now worth $1.4 million. Right? That law's passed. Well, Jeff, we gotta, we gotta um we gotta tax you on those unrealized gains.

SPEAKER_03

That's not what I'm saying, though. If I go to use that house and buy another house and saying, well, I have a house that that I'm gonna use this house to go and buy this house, I shouldn't be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05

But people do that all the time.

SPEAKER_03

Without they have to sell the house and they use the No.

SPEAKER_05

People will get um a home equity loan based on how much equity they have in the home, and they will buy a second house so that they I mean, if they want to live in it, if they want to rent it. Um they do people do that all the time.

SPEAKER_03

I guess you're kind of right about that.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, do we really want what if you decide to sell the house? Do you have to pay taxes on $1.4 million?

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, you do you do have to do that. If you sell if you sell your house, you there is a capital gains tax.

SPEAKER_05

Is it oh okay. There, yeah, you're right. What if I you leave it to your kid? There is a transfer tax, yeah. Right, but what is a transfer tax? Is it like a capital gains tax though? Now that I'm a container?

SPEAKER_03

Basically, because it's it's the the just as high? The transfer tax is the is a percentage of the increase in worth that it has.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. All right. How do we get on this?

SPEAKER_04

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my god. Could we this is why we need to um this is why we need to do what I was saying earlier. Um let's uh let's yeah, um, you've got two minutes for the NBA playoffs.

SPEAKER_01

No, I I don't even want to. You don't want to? No, we'll save that.

SPEAKER_05

All right.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my god. That's actually you know what?

SPEAKER_03

I I don't I don't want to I already talked about a thing I hate, so I might as well talk about this real quick. So I got a minute 30. Uh the NBA playoffs are absolute trash. Come at me. NBA blows, the sport sucks, the rules suck, and even Charles Barclay, the face of the NBA for a couple decades, agrees.

SPEAKER_05

Well, of course not. Uh let me just first of all, Charles Barclay was never the face of the NBA ever. What do you mean? He was on the he was on the desk. Oh, I'm just saying he's not the face of the NBA. But yes, you're he's a big name in the sport. He's probably he's probably the face of Carls Jr. Can I tell you something though? Um, we only got a couple minutes, but here I go. The um basketball is one of my favorite sports ever. I love playing basketball. Um like I used to love watching it. Um, like when I go watch uh my little cousin Ella play basketball, man, I get I get fired up. I love watching her play basketball. She's like, she's just in there and she's tough as fuck, and she's she's um she's pretty tall, but like they always put her like guarding the biggest person. I'm like, yeah, fuck it. Ella, go out like elbow her, fuck it, right? And play some real fucking basketball. And I I get revved up. I'm like, let's go. I don't even know. I didn't know that the NBA playoffs were happening right now.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Exactly my point.

SPEAKER_05

I could give a fuck about the NBA. Uh LeBron James has ruined that sport for me. Um, the fact that they have made the rules in such a way that everybody's taking three-point fucking shots all the time. Like, who wants to watch this?

SPEAKER_03

It's uh exactly. It's just it's so if you can score over 120 points, then the thing you're doing to earn those points is not that hard. It's just not. It's like in terms of like what the professionals are doing, like per the the the reason I wanted to talk about this because I just saw this comparison yesterday. I was an NBA player, I don't even know who he is, um, but he's out for like months because a guy kind of ran by him and his elbow bumped the guy's pinky, and now his pinky hurts. Now he's out for months. And it's the pinky on his non-shooting hand. Out for months? I know Kobe played with broken fingers, dude.

SPEAKER_05

There was a game, and I wish I remembered more about this, but he I think he broke a finger on the shooting hand and he played with his left hand, or he shot free throws with his left hand, or something like that. Kobe was a badass. So I used to be a LeBron James fan when he was in Cleveland. Like, I was just so impressed with his basketball IQ, and I was like, wow, in four or five years, this is gonna be insane. Like, he's the best player in basketball. No, he's not. Fuck him. Fuck LeBron James. Kobe Bryant is so much better than LeBron James, and I hate the fact that it's always uh LeBron James versus Michael Jordan. Like, why not, why not Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan? Why not Kobe Bryant and LeBron James? Fuck LeBron James.

SPEAKER_03

I I agree with this, but then I look at um I can't remember names today. The guy that scored the game-winning uh goal for the US um in the Olympics this year. Five minutes before he did that, he took a stick to the teeth and it knocked them out. What? You didn't know this? No. Oh yeah. Yeah. There was a battle in the corner, he was right there. The the opponent hit him right in the face. It literally knocked his teeth out of his face. He doesn't leave the ice, he just keeps playing. And then he scores the game winner. But this motherfucker, he jammed his pinky and he's out for months. This sport is soft. NBA is soft, soft players are soft, and it's because they there's no salary cap. They get all this goddamn money for doing absolutely nothing. Can you imagine us going to see your favorite sports team? And then one of the players decided that they're not playing today just because they don't feel like it. You can't kiss me.

SPEAKER_05

That's a huge, that's a huge thing in the NBA.

SPEAKER_03

Huge thing right now. They play the same amount of games as hockey. The same amount. Those guys wouldn't would die before missing a game. He got hit in the teeth. They are his teeth are gone, and he didn't even leave the ice.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I don't know. Everybody's like, oh here, we're just gonna go off now. Fuck LeBron James. This motherfucker, he's breaking all these point records and shit like that. And dude, you've been in the league fucking 20 years. Like, obviously, you're gonna break Jordan's records, but also it took you 20 years to do it. And it took you 20 years in load management where you're managing your minutes. If you're a fucking winner, get out there and goddamn lead your lead your team. And if you can't do it anymore, fucking retire, bro. Because I don't want to, I don't want to see some old ass dude playing basketball who was supposed to be the greatest and turned out to be such a fucking pussy. What a pussy, LeJ. I'm not winning here. I'm taking my talents to fucking South Beach. Shut up, bitch. Like, you fucking suck. You couldn't you could never put the team on your goddamn shoulders and win a fucking game. You're always like, Well, I want my team to be, I want my team to do it. Why do I always have to do it? Shut up, LeBron James. Shut up.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, shut up, LeBron James.

SPEAKER_05

Bitch.

SPEAKER_03

His hairline never said that. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05

I was gonna say, his hairline's worse than mine. Fucking douche.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Unfortunately, our audience ever only ever sees this hat, so they won't understand that reference. No, no.

SPEAKER_05

Never gonna do it. Never.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. I can't believe I can't believe we did it. It's wow. We're we're really late.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I expect we would we we would be.

SPEAKER_03

We had a lot to talk about.

SPEAKER_05

You got me fired up, bro.

SPEAKER_03

I got myself fired up, dude. I came in hot today. This is not like me.

SPEAKER_05

No, fuck it. Oh man. The yeah, basketball, it just drives me nuts, man. I just like it's changed so much in the past 20 years. And I like I said, I used to go out to bars to watch basketball. Like that's how much I liked it. And I didn't even know it was the playoffs. Fuck them.

SPEAKER_03

Anyone watching this that cares about the NBA, dude, put playoff hockey on and actually enjoy your day. It is so much more exciting, it's so much more action-packed. The players aren't soft little bitches. It's just a it's it's a better sport, and I just wish people would watch it. It's so good. Except if you're in the south, hockey's not for you.

SPEAKER_05

You know what though? I would watch hockey if they like put maybe like a blue ring around the puck so I could see it on TV.

SPEAKER_03

You should tune into the Sabres game on Wednesday, though. Tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04

Tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03

I probably I probably won't. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_05

I got I got Star Wars to watch. All right. Let's get into let's get into things I hate. Um wow. I don't know. What am I what are we doing?

SPEAKER_03

I don't um I we're not doing mine. I already talked about mine.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, alright. Wait, you want to know what I hate? School bus stops now. You know, the school bus where they stop and pick up the kids, you know what I'm talking about? Those bus stops?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know how the children getting to school to better themselves.

SPEAKER_05

That's what I hate. Uh what what happened? Like, what has happened in the past, I don't know, 20 years? When did every single kid get their own personal stop? Like, I swear, it's like they stop, drive 10 feet, stop, drive another 10 feet, stop again. And like, they're not even like transporting kids, they're like escorting through them through the neighborhood. Like, congratulations, you made it 40 yards today. Big day, kids. Fuck. And then I'm stuck behind this thing on my way to work. Like, I just signed up for some fucking parade I didn't consent to. I like I just don't understand it. Can we can we consolidate this just a little? Like, I'm not saying make the kids walk 12 miles uphill in the snow like it's 19 fucking 40. But can we get, I don't know, one stop per zip code? Like right now, it's one stop per driveway. I just don't fucking understand it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah. And like this is so funny because I grew up when I grew up, my school bus was every driveway.

SPEAKER_05

Jesus Christ. And you know, I'm gonna make this argument. People are gonna see it and they're gonna be like, well, you know, it's for safety. Like, what safety from what? The kid just walked from his front door to the curb. Is an extra 20 feet gonna change everything into the hundred hunger games? Like, I just don't understand. Like you're telling me the danger zone starts at the mailbox, like, and you can't go any further. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

I just love the thought of a kid uh getting to the end of their driveway looking back at their house before they walk 20 feet going.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my god. But I understand. So, like, but I feel like there's an escalation here. So by 2030, buses are gonna pull into the garage, pick the kid up from the kitchen.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and then by by 2047, the bus driver's just gonna sleep in the home.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, just bring your kids to fucking work. Why do I gotta be behind this fucking yellow goddamn trash can stopping every fucking three feet? Holy shit.

unknown

Fuck.

SPEAKER_03

I will say the bus drivers around here are pretty good about this. Um, if they get like three stops in a row and they see more than like if they even have one car behind them, they pull over, let everyone go, and then they get back out on the road.

SPEAKER_05

No man, pretty convenient. There was a time when I was a kid when I rode the bus, we would walk like so. We had our bus stop and it wasn't that far. Um, and then there was like six of us that would be at this one stop, and they were all part coming from part of the neighborhood. So the bus didn't have to stop seven places. But sometimes we were like, you know what, we want the good seats, so we would walk like half a mile to the stop before it's their stop. Yeah, so we could get the good seats. Like now, now these it's get a fucking limousine just pulling up. Like, we're hey, we're here. Fuck. You know they do this for dogs too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I see that. I've seen that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

They do this for fucking dogs.

SPEAKER_03

Sounds like a nightmare.

SPEAKER_05

Uh, it is. Let me tell you.

SPEAKER_03

That's a it's a pretty decent, it's a pretty decent thing to hate, I guess.

SPEAKER_05

Oh man, I think it's a great thing. Yeah.

unknown

Fuck. All right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't we already talked about mine. I was kind of in my whole rant. I forgot that I wanted to put into things I hate. I just couldn't stop myself from making.

unknown

But

SPEAKER_05

Like, don't you think like we got the NBA soft, right? Kids today, soft as fuck. You can't walk to the bus stop, they gotta, they gotta come to your house. Like, what's going on here? I just don't get it. Sometimes, you know what I see in my neighborhood when it's raining or when it's really cold, parents will drive their kids to the bus stop and the kids wait in the car. That's crazy to me. Fucking soft. Get them a fucking bubble jacket and make their ass sit in the cold. Wait for the goddamn bus.

SPEAKER_03

The only exception I have is if it's like minus temperature. Then, like, yeah, you don't want to be standing out there too long, but man.

SPEAKER_04

No, fuck that.

SPEAKER_03

Listen. But that's why my my school bus in the morning, I just waited in my house until it showed up to my driveway.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't have I didn't have a lot of I didn't have a lot of money growing up. There was a time where I was going to school and I had a hole in my sneaker. Like my big toe is just showing up, right? Like a hobo. Yeah. And it it was like a couple weeks of this, maybe even longer. And I would go out to the bus stop, freeze my fucking ass off, my big toe getting like purple and shit because it's so cold. There's no um what's it called? There's no blood flow. Kids are soft, man. Soft.

SPEAKER_03

You know how you know you know kids are soft? Nut allergies.

SPEAKER_05

I say this shit all the time. I like all the time. Like, and yeah, do I want do I want kids to die? No, I don't. But don't tell me I can't have a fucking Snickers on the plane, bro. Shut the fuck up. If if I if me eating a Snickers kills your kid, survival of the fittest.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Survival of the fittest. Sorry.

SPEAKER_05

We gotta get rid of this shit, bro. People, when you're pregnant, eat fucking peanuts, please. You're fucking everything up for the rest of us.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, go to a ball game. Have a have a bag of peanuts.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Jesus Christ. Wait, ball games? Peanuts?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, baseball.

SPEAKER_04

I thought it was cracker jacks.

SPEAKER_03

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Those are so out, dude. Oh. That was so 1928.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, really? Really? I thought you get you get a hot dog and cracker jacks at a baseball game.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I've always been a peanut guy. So there's a guy in the radio, like sports radio here in Buffalo, who talks about all the time that if he's at like a baseball game, he'll put a bunch of the salty peanuts with the shell into his beer. And apparently this is like a thing. And then you drink the beer and it's like a little bit of salty that's kind of nice. And then you get to the peanuts at the bottom and you have these like beer-flavored peanuts.

SPEAKER_04

Alright.

SPEAKER_03

Not something I'm gonna try, but good for you, fella.

SPEAKER_05

I like beer nuts, but uh they're like uh sweet.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I like beer nuts. Moving along, moving on. Um do your last uh do your last sip because uh we might not have time for mine.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so something nobody's talking about. Um over the course of time, we have just like created an undiscussed tier system for frozen water. Like everyone knows that some ice is better than other ice.

SPEAKER_05

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like, we all know it, right? So you have the stupid half moon shape ice, it's the worst ice, but it should be in some sort of cube form.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, then if you the half moon, it's not even cold.

SPEAKER_03

No, it's a horrible ice. How is it? It's barely ice, yeah. It's not even cold. But then if you go to like a fancy cocktail place, they have big cube ice. And now that we've all just accepted that like that's a better form, that is a more premium ice, even though it's the same water. But you can go to like a sonics and then you get the weird, like slushy, crushed cylinder ice, the poop ice. That's good ice.

SPEAKER_05

Everyone knows that's great ice. Yeah, it's good ice to crunch on. It makes that popping sound.

SPEAKER_03

The best crunching ice. No one ever talks about the tier system for ice. Maybe what we should do is put a tier list together and put it on our socials.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I think we yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I want to hear what I want to hear what you guys have to think about the ice, but I don't know why we never talk about ice.

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. You know what though? We were talking about ice over the weekend because yeah, we've got these um, we got this new like drink place in the area, and they serve dirty water.

SPEAKER_04

Have you heard of this? I don't like that. It's like a trend, and it's like flavored water.

SPEAKER_05

So they'll like like my favorite is the raspberry fizz. And um, excuse me, and uh, you know, it's got like some raspberry flavoring, and it's got that good, crunchy little like odd-shaped, you know, balls of ice. Oh fuck, it's so good. They do the raspberry flavoring with a little bit of lemon, and I just do regular water, but you can get like sparkling water. Oh, yeah, interesting. I've never heard of this. Yeah, dirty water. I guess it's a trend. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay. Well, you learn something new every day, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, but I agree with you. I just don't know how we would rate this, and we're gonna have to come up with more categories because you get the like the cocktail, like at the bar, the cocktail ice. The Collins ice for a Collins glass, it's specific to that glass, exactly. But then also some bars you go to like like a fancy bar where you're paying a little bit extra, you're getting that clear ice that you can see through.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Now that's particularly manicured ice. That ice is specifically curated.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Perfect amount of heat and pressure.

SPEAKER_05

And then you got dry ice. That's that's something.

SPEAKER_03

Don't even get me started on dry ice. And then you but you also have smear-noff ice. And that's a liquid. That's a liquid, it's not even ice! Yeah, it's also terrible. Yeah, I don't like it. Especially like, why do you have vanilla vodka?

SPEAKER_05

Get out of here.

SPEAKER_03

Get out of here. I can't do the flavored vodka nonsense in general. It's a hard no. Unless it's in a can and it's like um what are those things that I like? Well, high noons, but that's a that's a drink.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's flavored vodka, right?

SPEAKER_03

No, I think it's vodka with a flavored seltzer. Uh-oh. Completely different. Completely different.

SPEAKER_05

But this was good. I really, yeah. Oh man. Like I read I read this today and I was like, this is so good. But I should have put some more thought into it. Because I thought I was gonna come on here and be like, yes, ice. Um, and I'm excited about it. I just didn't think enough. I should have thought more about it so I had more thoughts. Because I thought because I do this all the time. I'm like, oh fuck, these people have this stupid ice. Like, you know how you get the uh the ice and it's like a cylinder with a hole in it? Yes. I don't like that ice at all. That's horrible ice. It's too hard. You can't crunch it.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the cylinder, very strong shape. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Structurally, it's very sound.

SPEAKER_03

Incredibly straight. Now, if we're building an igloo, that's some pretty goddamn good ice. Oh, that's some good ice, yeah. Great ice for building igloos. So I think we should do you ever see those like S-tier like uh categories? Like they usually do it for they do it for sports every week.

SPEAKER_04

Uh no.

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I'll send you an example. I'll send you an example, you uncultured swine, and I will I'll send you an example, and I think we should build a a tier list for ice.

SPEAKER_04

Alright.

SPEAKER_03

All right, yeah, let's do that.

SPEAKER_05

That's all I got. Yeah, I got nothing. Um my mom just sent me a picture of a um giant alligator in her front yard. I hope she's okay.

SPEAKER_03

Hell yeah. It's huge. It seems yeah, I believe it. Those things can get massive, very dangerous. I hope she's not trying to take a selfie with it. Like that's uh, that doesn't seem too safe.

SPEAKER_05

I hope she doesn't, but if she does, that'd be pretty cool. I'd love to see it.

SPEAKER_03

I'd be lying.

SPEAKER_05

All right.

SPEAKER_03

So we I'd be lying if I say I wish you didn't try.

SPEAKER_05

All right. Yeah, make sure mom's okay. Um so can I we've got we've got 10 minutes. Okay. I thought we went long. Uh we're hour and 16. We did good. Um, but uh what did I want to do? Oh, I let me tell you a story. It was pretty wild. Um I kicked a dog this weekend in the face.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, Jesus.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And I know that sounds bad because we all love dogs. Well, I don't really like animals, but whatever. Um wild. So anyway, um Blue and I we I take him to the park and we do a four-mile walk around the park, and man, the dog is just bulletproof, watch me the whole time. It was great. I like we had a great walk by ourselves. We even saw a baby fox, which was pretty cool. Cool. And what are they called? Baby pup puppies? Are they puppies? I think I think so. And they're definitely not cubs. No, they're not cubs, those are bears. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, we saw a baby fox. That was cool, and he smelled it and he was a little interested, but we just kept on moving. We're headed to the car, our walk is over. What we're walking through the parking lot, and um, like between a bunch of the cars, these people are getting out and getting their dogs ready to go for a walk, I assume. And um, this black lad is growling and barking at Baloo. And it's pretty aggressive. Like, like I'm like, all right, we gotta get out of here. Um, like I just want to get the dog away, my dog away from this dog, because I don't think anything's gonna happen. The dog's just being a you know, a dog-aggressive dog, which is cool. You know, like they have those. Um, but they have another fluffy dog, I think it was like a Wheaton. Um, I'm not sure though. Um, but he jumped out of the car, hit the lab, which set the lab off, right? So they both they're on those huge flexi leads. They both run after blue like aggressively. Like I was and he got so scared, he like was running in circles around me, tail tucked, and this lab got really close, and I front kicked this motherfucker in the face.

SPEAKER_03

Shit, dude. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it sounds like you did the right thing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I I kicked him, I kicked him in the face, and I'm screaming at the guy who's holding the dogs, like, get your dog under control, like fuck you, blah blah blah. His wife is screaming at me because I kicked the dog in the face, and I'm like, fuck you, blah blah blah blah blah, you know, like just screaming at her and him while trying to get my dog in the car. It was it was a crazy situation. Oh my god. That is really scary though. Yeah, and now, like, I don't know, we've had a couple incidents with Blue now where he sees a dog and he growls. So we're like, fuck, did this ruin everything? Like all the work we put into this dog.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I think something something like that happened. That happened to my dog. Um, she would go to the dog park all the time, and she was great with everyone, socializing and with you know, people and other dogs. Then there was one time where there was this weird reaction with the dog, and the dog kind of pinned her, and ever since then she's been dog aggressive.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's why I don't do the dog parks.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think dog parks are a terrible idea.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, terrible. Don't put no, I would never. Like we take Baloo to school like one once or twice a week, and like like they go hiking, it's a big pack of dogs that go out off-leash hiking and stuff like that. Um, and that's the only time I would allow him to be off-leash with a bunch of dogs. Because those people who are watching the dogs, they know what they're fucking doing.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Matters. Damn, dude. I'm sorry they had that experience because that that's really scary, but I'm glad it sounds like blue's okay.

SPEAKER_05

So yeah, he's cool. It's just um, I don't know, like if there was a thing, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Like if he's gonna be if he's gonna be a little dog aggressive now or what, I don't know. But we've had those couple incidents, so we're worried about it. We'll see how school went today.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, that I think that is a huge positive though, because maybe he just he'll learn that that's not all dogs. Uh, but he's still I I feel like he's also still young enough that you might be able to help train that out of him too.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the good thing, but I don't know. It's just like this sucks.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there's just so there's so many irresponsible pet owners out there, and I've never really realized it's still like started working in vetmed. But it is really crazy and really scary because they all think they're the best pet owner, and you are actually really terrible at it.

SPEAKER_05

The you know, who knows what these people are like, you know what I mean, with their pets. Um my thing is, is you've got these two dogs who don't necessarily like dogs, right? Why are they on flexi leads? Right. And I saw this happen, and from my experience at the vet and all I, you know, all the stuff I know about like specifically dog behavior. If the Wheaton hadn't jumped and hit the lab, it probably would have never happened. Like there was all this pent dump energy, and like the getting hit by the other dog just like set him free. And he was like, All right, let's do this. Yeah. Oh, you want to hear another cool thing? Sure. Uh in Connecticut, there was a bunch of um Bigfoot sightings recently. Oh, very cool. Again, yeah, and I'm I missed it.

SPEAKER_03

Ah. Well, next time. You'll see the you'll see Bigfoot next time. Uh I don't know. He's on his way to the diner. About to order a lobster.

SPEAKER_05

No, Bigfoots are allergic to seafood, dude.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, is that a fact? No, I just made it up. Uh I was thinking for a minute, maybe I got it confused with the Yeti.

SPEAKER_05

They just eat they eat a different kind of ice altogether.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So you have their ice, very, very structurally sound and dense. Very dense ice. Dense ice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, what do you how do you feel about the ice that you get in the bag at the gas station?

SPEAKER_03

Uh, that ice is for making things cold only.

SPEAKER_04

Only.

SPEAKER_03

Only. Never. First of all, if you're putting that stuff in your drink, you have no idea where that ice has been.

SPEAKER_05

That's true.

SPEAKER_03

I have no clue. It could have been made with toilet water for all you know. I drink out of the toilet. Yeah, I mean, me too. I don't make ice out of it. I'm not crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Let me ask you another question. Since we've got time. We've got a couple minutes. What's the why do uh uh bars put ice in the urinals? What's what's that about?

SPEAKER_03

Um, I think the only reason is because they have to turn over the ice that is in the wells every so often, um, so that the ice doesn't get stale, because ice can go stale when it sits. So what they're what they're really doing is scooping out of the well, and then they just don't have a place to dump it to drain it. So let's just toss it in the urinal, it'll just drain, people will pee on it, it'll drain faster. And it has an added benefit, because if you're just peeing into a urinal that may or may not have a cake in it, your the the urine will splash more and cause more disgustingness in the men's room.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, and that's that's what we want out of our men's room.

SPEAKER_03

Let well, I prefer less disgustingness, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay. You know, wow, this is going off the rails. Off the rails. What are the pea questions you got? I don't have well, I it's a uh P related question. Okay, all right. Why do guys, when they're at the urinal, why do they pick their nose? What do you ever go to like a urinal in a public place and there's boogers on the wall? You've never seen that before?

SPEAKER_04

No, dude. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03

No, oh man. I've I've genuinely I've never seen that before. I don't know where you're going. I don't know what kind of scumbags you got in Connecticut.

SPEAKER_05

I've seen this everywhere though. All right. Anyone who's listening, if you've seen this phenomena, please comment and let me know. I'm not crazy. But I always I'm always like, I'll go to a urinal and I'm peeing, and I'm like, why did you decide to pick your nose and put it right there so I could see it? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_03

That is crazy. Insane. What I think is actually equally, if not more, insane are the dudes at the urinal that like put their arm their hand up on the wall.

SPEAKER_01

Why what are what are we doing? Yeah, what are you doing? Don't do that. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_05

No, don't put your hand there. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, what is causing you so much issue today that the best place for you to take a load off is the urinal.

SPEAKER_05

I don't think I've ever gone. I've I don't think I've ever done oh yeah. Never yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's wild. Well you yeah, what's happening? You that is this is the next thing we have to ban. We have to ban this.

SPEAKER_04

Bam the hand. What the fuck? That's so strange. All right. Well, I think we did it.

SPEAKER_03

We did it, bud.

SPEAKER_05

Wow, I'm glad we uh like uh I think it started a little rough and uh I think we ended a little rough, but uh all in all I think we did a great job.

SPEAKER_03

All right, everyone, we're on Spotify. Go check us out uh there as well. Um make sure you follow our social medias. It'll be linked in the comment section, all that fun stuff.

SPEAKER_05

And tell us what you think about ice.

SPEAKER_01

Tell us what yeah, about ice cubes. We know what you think about ice.

SPEAKER_03

That's so funny. We're talking about specifically frozen water, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Frozen water. We don't care about your politics, please. Comment politics about our other politics stuff, not ice. Oh god, we already get it. All right, all right, everyone. Thanks for watching. Uh good night, everybody.

SPEAKER_04

Buggy boogie. Boogie boogie