EP018 | Were the 90s Actually Better?

This week on 2 Guys No Credentials, Erik and Jeff ask the most important question two unqualified men can ask:

Were the 90s actually better?

We talk bad modern music, MTV, TRL, Beastie Boys, Blink-182, Jurassic Park, Good Will Hunting, Nickelodeon, SNL, Mighty Ducks logos, chain wallets, Starter jackets, childhood freedom, and why everything used to feel like it had more personality.

Plus, Jeff survives a Jimmy Buffett Uber ride, Erik declares war on modern music, and the episode ends with Erik forgetting how words work.

No credentials. No News Desk. No smooth outro.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Two Guys No Credentials.

SPEAKER_04 0:02

We're two completely unqualified people talk about nothing.

SPEAKER_03 0:05

And everything. Like we know what we're doing.

SPEAKER_04 0:08

Spoiler, we don't. Grow. Yeah. Oh man. I you know what the bet I'm so sad that the audience missed my um pussy, my pussy pants. Pillow pants. My pillow pants reference. We're gonna workshop that. No. You never seen Clerks 2?

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Was wait, Clerks 2?

SPEAKER_04 0:34

Is that the one all black and white? No, no, that's Clerks. Clerks 2 is they are working at the fast food joint, and they've got like this nerdy guy working with him. I can't remember his fucking name. I I don't remember, but he's he's talking about how he doesn't have sex with his girlfriend because his girlfriend has a pussy troll named PillowPants.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

I don't remember Clerks 2 at all. I I love Clerks 1. Fun fact about Clerks you know why it was shot in all black and white.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Because they were poor.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Because they were poor. They didn't have the budget because it really wasn't supposed to be like a like a feature film, and so they just got a black and white camera because it was much cheaper.

SPEAKER_04 1:18

Yeah, he so he sold his comic book collection to fund that movie. It was really insane. I know. He believed in himself. Just like I'm glad he did. I believe in you too, bud. Oh, you shouldn't.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

I'm terrible.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me. It's a good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I still have the bummer rides off of people.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

I don't believe in the Beatles either. I think they're just a boy band in secret. It's a Ferris Bueller quote that got by you there, bud. No, I know what it is. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

I knew damn it, I knew it. One of these days I'm gonna get something by you.

SPEAKER_04 2:00

You did. You got the uh banana stand by me. Yeah, but you you didn't really see the show. Yeah, that's true. Ferris Bueller is one of my favorites. I probably have watched that movie 200 times. Yeah, yeah, agree. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

All right, one of these days I'll get you, bud. All right.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Keep trying. I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Um man, uh, it's been a while. It has been a while. Uh it's um I feel like I'm Jones in a little bit because we we didn't get to do this last week last week. I was uh up in the Great White North on the annual fishing trip, which I am the champion of, caught the biggest bass. So it's no big deal. But um yeah, super great time. Weather wasn't awesome. I mean, it it didn't rain or anything on us, which was nice. Uh we avoided that, but it was super windy. Like on when you were on the water, it was like 25, 30 mile-an hour winds, which you know, boat is you can't you can't keep still then. So it was kind of exhausting, but we still had a great time, ate great food, sat by the bonfire each night, just you know, shooting the shit with the guys. Awesome time.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Did you eat the fish?

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Sure did. Yeah, my cousin that goes. Did it taste like victory? Absolutely tasted like victory because I was the victor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I I like so I I we talked about this on the pod before, but I I go fishing a lot, and I really don't like uh like when people kill the fish even accidentally and then don't like treat it well. Like if you're gonna keep a fish, do it humanely, right? You have a live well in your boat, use the live well, keep them alive. When you get them back and you're gonna about to fillet them, like get them out of their misery first, do the humane thing, and then you know, you're do your fillets. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 4:00

That's just what do people do otherwise?

SPEAKER_04 4:04

I feel I like I don't go fish, but I feel like that's a that's what you're supposed to do.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

So there's a lot of people that will do one of two things. They'll just cut out, they'll just cut their gills and basically let them bleed out, which is a horrible, horrible like way to do that. Um, people will tell you it's because, well, then the the meat is better because it's not like its blood is not getting bad in there as it dies. I'm like, well, it shouldn't do that anyway. So don't do that. Um also some people will just like start filleting them before they're like really dead. Uh don't do that either. It's a really horrible thing to do. I know it's a fish and like we they they people think they're like lesser than, but like it's still a living thing. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 4:48

Yeah, I agree. Don't do that. Treat them with respect, they're feeding you.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

Yes, and even if you do all of that, if you like save the meat, treat the meat well, like don't let it spoil. Don't like leave it in your freezer forever. Use it, utilize it appropriately, like respect the fish.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

And season it appropriately, too. Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

Thank you. So we did something different this year. Uh, one friend, family friend, brought up uh a huge like deep fryer, like what like an outside one. So uh we actually deep fried all of our fish, but the the batter that he used, it wasn't like a beer batter, it was like dry season, but the seasonings he put into it, ayi yi, was delicious.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Oh, sounds good.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah, it was really good, man. It was a good time.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

I like a fish and chips.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Yeah, it's kind of it was I like a fish and chips as well. We call them fish fries around here. Big deal. Big deal of Friday fish fry.

SPEAKER_04 5:47

Well, I live in New England, so it's fish and chips.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

Yeah.

unknown 5:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

There should be new fish and chips, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

New fish and chips. Yeah. Um doesn't sound as great that way. New fish and chips.

SPEAKER_04 6:06

No, everything new is better. I got the new iPhone. I got a new TV.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

Uh I got a new illness.

SPEAKER_04 6:18

Yeah, see, nobody's ever heard of that one. Cool. Uh well, I didn't do anything um at all. You know what though, how was that? It was great. I worked my ass off. Um, and you know what? I hope everybody appreciates what I did. And if they don't, I get it. They've got a lot of stuff to do and bigger fish to fry.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Oh shit, my Chris Collinsworth came out. Oh no.

unknown 6:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 6:59

Just keep it away from Patrick Mahomes, all right?

SPEAKER_01 7:02

There's nothing that Chris Collinsworth would ever keep away from Patrick Mahomes.

SPEAKER_05 7:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

I've never seen another man ride another man's dick so hard. Oh. I mean, first of all, good.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Well, that's a private, that's a private thing. Well, it's Pride Month. They do it during the parades. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah. So Chris Collins was out there in the parade in his Rainbow Holmes jersey.

SPEAKER_04 7:40

Yeah. Um since I mentioned Pride Worth, uh, Pride Month, I'm just gonna say this right now. Hey Jordan McCormick, go fuck yourself.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

Uh fuck that guy.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

Fuck that guy. So um any any other stories or anything like that?

SPEAKER_01 7:58

Before we get to I do have I do have one I will put into my regret. Um, okay. I don't really think there's anything. I don't really think there's anything else. Um, yeah, I mean, it's just like that trip is always really cool because no matter what, it's always the most even though we're up at like 6 a.m., we get out on the boats, and then we're out fishing till noon, then we come back for lunch real quick, and then we're right back out on the boats until like 6 p.m. for the night. It's a lot of work and it's like exhausting. You're just casting all day. You're on the boat, that's like you're trying to keep your balance. Even though all that is kind of exhausting, it's still probably the most relaxing thing we go and do. So I feel good.

SPEAKER_04 8:37

That's good. I'm glad to hear it, man. Glad you're refreshed. Yeah. Refresh and ready to go. Yes, let's do it. I'm excited. I got a broner right now. Um what's a broner? I don't know, but I like it. I can't wait to add it to my insulation, Britannica. All right, so let's get into it. No news desk this week. Um yeah. No news desk this week. I had a line ready, but it I it's not in front of me, and I forget what it was. It had something to do with the world embarrassing itself, and we didn't want to reward it, but I don't know. Um, but my weekly regret, let's get into it. Um listen, my regret is that we didn't record a podcast last week.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Um I know, it felt weird, right? Yeah, and I I missed you, bro.

SPEAKER_04 9:32

I really miss you too, dude. I really missed you. And it's not in like kind of like the uh normal, healthy friendship way. It was more dramatic. It really was. And I thought to the audience, this is really gonna mean nothing to them. You know, they're probably excited that there was no podcast, like there's no nonsense, fewer opinions by two guys who have no idea what they're talking about. Um, but I found myself last week like just staring out windows, you know, happy that it was raining. And um it's it's the first time you wore a turtleneck sweater. No, I I I wore a turtleneck sweater in high school once. It was a big mistake. Yeah, that sounds like a big mistake. Yeah, everybody called me a barista. I didn't even know what that was.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

And your name is spelled the barista way. E R-I-K.

SPEAKER_04 10:41

No, the E R-I-C is the barista way. Is it really? Yeah, the K is the cool way. All right, we're yeah, we're superior to the C's.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

Yeah, my mom tells me things that aren't true, also. Oh no, I just made this up on my own.

SPEAKER_04 11:00

But I just want to say to you, Jeff, we can never do this again. It was too much for me. My sweet, my sweet prince. I know. It was too much. I it was it was like an empty chair at Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Oh god, yeah. It was. Even though I even though that particular day I was fucking crushing it in fish. Um that sounded way more sexual than I wanted it to be. They even even though I was having a good time, there was still a card of me that was like, damn it, like we can't let this happen. Now we have lives, but I think that we can do a better job of planning ahead, and that's what I that's what I commit to in the future.

SPEAKER_04 11:50

Same, same. Um, but yeah, I gotta say, when we don't record, it's a little dangerous. All right. This podcast really does the trick keeping my opinions contained in a semi-controlled environment. Um and I kind of was sit, I was forced to sit alone with my thoughts, and honestly, nobody deserves that. Especially someone with my type of problems.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Yeah, I honestly I I imagine the scariest place on earth is your mind, and it's like worse than Chernobyl or like Gillette Stadium.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Um, yeah, yeah, it's a scary place.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

But dude, you know what? We're back, and here we fucking go.

SPEAKER_04 12:49

Fuck yeah. Well, that was my regret for the week. Let's never do that again.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

I know. We'll try not to, my guy. We'll try not to, but as you know, as you gain popularity and fame through the podcast, like you're gonna be called to do all sorts of like brand deals and shit, and then you know. What do you think? What do you think if you were to get offered a brand deal? What's the first company to reach out to you?

SPEAKER_04 13:13

It would be a body condom.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

First of all, that was a little too fast. What's sitting in your emails right now? They called last week. Yeah, I thought it would have been like like Preparation H or Dude Wipes.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Oh, Preparation H would be a good one, too. I've got the face, like I look like I got hemorrhoids.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

I got hemorrhoid face. Doesn't mean what you think it does.

SPEAKER_04 13:49

Oh man. No, do you remember um I can't remember which naked gun movie it was, but they had a sex scene and they're both wearing body-sized actual condoms.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

Uh, and I remember watching it as a kid and I'm being like, I don't understand. What are they doing? And my dad's like, those are condoms. And I'm like, that's what that is? Weird. Like I thought I thought that I thought that was the only serious scene in the movie. I was like, this is what people do or where?

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Oh my god. All right. Uh, what's your regret for this week? Okay, this actually happened yesterday, and I guess it is a regret, but I also loved it at the same time. I just like wish I wasn't in the moment. Allow me to explain. Um, uh, I had to take my car to the shop, and so yesterday after work, they were done with it, and so I had to Uber over there. So uh I get in the Uber, and this guy, I mean, wow, beard down to here, right? And it wasn't like a cropped like yours, it was just like dangly, you know what I mean? Like frayed. Yeah. Um, it looked like the bottom of somebody's like uh goth jeans in high school. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:14

Like it looked like it smelled.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Yeah, sure did. Um, and it and it sure did. The uh he had a backwards Kangle hat. You never see those anymore. So I'm thinking like, wow.

SPEAKER_04 15:29

How do you wear that backwards?

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Right. So dudes do this if they really love jazz, it's a real jazz thing. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh total jazz. So I get in the car and I'm like, okay, jazz guy. We have something to talk about here. I like music. No, I was wrong. This guy was only listening to Jimmy Buffett Radio on XM.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

That's a choice.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Just Jimmy Buffett. There's like a 25-minute car ride of just Jimmy Buffett. And let me tell you, this guy was in the fucking pocket. All right. He was jamming out, he was singing the songs, not like belting them, but like audibly, like just ripping. But it's XM radio. I happen to know we're on the 990 in Western New York. And there's a dead spot approaching quickly. And it's right in the middle of the song, and it must have been his favorite part of the song because it cuts out and he goes, fuck. And I'm in the backseat on my phone, and I'm like, like, that is not the reaction you want out of an Uber driver. You want them to be calm, cool, and collected in case any surprises emerge. He's like, fuck. So then he, like a minute later, he slowly turns to me. He's like, Do you like Jimmy Buffett? The 25-minute car ride, we're 20 minutes in already.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Like, it doesn't matter if I like Jimmy Buffett at this point. You've been listening to it the entire time. We're almost done.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

But obviously, after that whole situation, the only answer is yes.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Yeah, especially after especially after that reaction. Like, you don't want to upset this guy. Yeah, I we text. Um 25 minutes of Jimmy V does he have that does he have enough hits?

SPEAKER_05 17:39

No.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

No. I feel like they all sound the same after after a while.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

I mean, I don't even think it's after a while. I think it's after one 1.18 songs. Like third, like like four and a half seconds into the second song, you're like, is this on repeat?

SPEAKER_02 18:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

No day to Jimmy Buffett. What a like business mind that guy had. That one stupid song he built an empire out of. Margaritaville. Oh, yeah. There's literal Margaritaville restaurants. Like, it's the whole thing. And we went to one and we were uh on the cruise.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

We did, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

I forget what island it was when we got off and we went to a little bar there for a second and got some drinks. That was a margaritaville, Jimmy Buffett.

SPEAKER_04 18:30

Oh, I never I didn't put two and two together. I didn't know the margaritaville were was his thing.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

Yeah, that's his thing. He also started Landshark beer. Like people drink Land Sharks all the time. That's Jimmy Buffett. No way. Yeah. All of that, off of that one, and I can't stress this enough. Horrible song. So that was my regret.

SPEAKER_03 19:01

It's good when you're drunk and sitting around a fire. Yeah, but like a lot of things are. Yeah. Marshmallows are good. Yeah, marshmallows are awful. No one ever talked about this.

unknown 19:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

Who wants a marshmallow? My ear is itchy. What the hell?

SPEAKER_05 19:22

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Alright. Well, um, do you have a things you hate? A thing you hate?

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Uh I really don't. I had such a nice week, such a nice weekend. Uh there's not really a lot going on right now that I hate. Uh, I mean, there is. There is a lot, but we just we just don't have time to get into it today.

SPEAKER_05 19:43

All right.

SPEAKER_04 19:44

Uh well, I've got one.

SPEAKER_05 19:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:47

Yeah. Uh let's see. Where where is it? Oh man. Jeez Louise. I'm so bad at this. Um, I don't know how to use it. You know what I hate? Let's just go there. You know what I hate? Because I know. I know what I hate.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Yeah, I know you do.

SPEAKER_04 20:04

Yeah, that's why my face looks like I have hemorrhoids all the time. I hate music.

SPEAKER_05 20:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 20:16

And all right, let me clarify that a little bit because I'm not that bad, everyone. Um there's great, there's good artists out there, but you just don't hear from them. Like, everything sounds the same. It all sounds like it was created in a lab by 17 producers and like some 16-year-old chick. Like, all the music sucks. That's on the radio. There's no good music out there. You literally have to go like hunt for it, like you're hunting an elk by yourself, like on like a 20-mile hike into the forest. Like, and who wants to do that shit? I know I just don't understand. Like, everything's been built like like for an algorithm so that like it plays, it sounds good, you know. Um like can we have music that like has soul and not music for TikTok? Like, not music that was made by two twins, both named Chase? Like, like real music.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Chase and Chase. Chase and Chase.

unknown 21:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Um Chase. So I love this topic, right? Obviously, I would love this topic. Um, because I play music and I play it in a rock band, and that's what we do, right? Uh so I'm gonna touch on a couple things you've already said because this is this this section is gonna take a minute. All right, go for it. Uh there it's to to me, it's there's such a lack of nuance now. Like, it's it's such a it's such a problem. Like, what I loved about music in the 60s, 70s, even 80s, and 90s is that there was if you were doing a song uh about a specific maybe taboo subject, there's nuance around it. I I think of the comparison between Walk This Way by Aerosmith, and I don't I'm not even a huge fan of Aerosmith, but like that song, that song rips. And it's all about like having sex with a girl you got a crush on, like for the first time. And it's it's like a taboo subject. Uh, but it's there if you look at the lyrics and you read them, there's artistry around it. They never actually say it explicitly, they just they they give you imagery and symbolism, and then your mind puts together what it is they're talking about. It's so much more interesting and so much more encapsulating when there's something going on that makes you think. Yeah. And today today we have a song called Wet Ass Pussy. Like to me, that's a problem. And I understand people claim it as like an empowerment song or whatever. I I don't know if I'd buy into that fully. If it does that for you, then that's great for you. But to me, it's it's um lazy. It's lazy, it's phony, it's nonsense. Like, I'm talking on one more thing. Oh I'm sorry for cursing. There's I don't want to yell. Uh there was one person that wrote Bohemian Rhapsody, Freddie Mercury. It's one of the most iconic songs of all time. It's one of the songs that was designed to feel like a full opera in one song, and it does that. There's different genres happening within that song. There's Italian happening within that song. The lyricism and the story of what's going on. It's so huge and it's so grand, and we use cadence and we use uh arpeggios in there, and we use all sorts of different like musical tools to make that song what it is.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Do you know how many people wrote all the single ladies?

SPEAKER_05 24:20

Seven.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

Seven. Seven people all the single ladies, all the single ladies, all the single ladies, all the single ladies. Seven people wrote that song? Like, come on. It's such garbage.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

It was a banger, it was a banger.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

Yeah, every wedding, I'm on the dance floor.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

Uh uh uh uh uh uh I want to give you gave a great example to walk walk this way, right? Um but I've I've got a great example too on how music music should be like poetry, like you're saying something without actually saying it, and it like it relies on a little bit of like smarts and interpretation, and uh oh man, I why can't I remember the name of the song? But the song and the guy's like um I really love your peaches, want to shake your tree. He's obviously oh yeah, Steve Miller. Yeah, Steve Miller, yeah. He's obviously talking about boobs. Yes, but like it it sounds nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Like there's artistry there, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:33

And it's just missing. I where where is it? Point me somewhere that I can put on the radio and be like, oh yeah, yeah, this is a good song.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yeah, uh the this so many thoughts. The problem with music today is uh the commercialization of it. So you're not writing albums anymore because there's no need, there are no album sales, it's everything's streamed. So you don't need albums, you don't need a work of art, you need one song that we can put on the radio that people will tap their feet to for four minutes, and we need to just reproduce that as many times as we can, rinse and repeat. The music industry is completely gone. I mean, it's always been money, right? But like it used to be people would buy a whole album because the album was good.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

There's no genres anymore. You've got yeah, not really no, you've there's no genres. It's all pop. Even country is pop. But like yeah, it's terrible. Like rock was angry, punk was rebellious, rap was dangerous, country, heartache and whiskey, uh um, grunge. Trucks and bear and and tires and trucks. But and then grunge was like depression, and like some guy, he was like about to kill himself, but he found a guitar, you know, um, and wrote a song about it, and it helped him, and it helped the people who listened to it. Now it's just like you've got Sabrina Carpenter and Ed Sheeran and Morgan Wallen, whoever that is.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

Um Morgan Wallen. What a bitch.

SPEAKER_04 27:12

You've got Olivia Rodrigo talking about how like Victoria's secret is not a secret. Well, yeah, we knew that in the 90s. You're rehashing it now, 2024 or 5? Shut up. Fuck. Like, you're not saying anything new. Uh, and then what don't even get me started on that lying piece of garbage, Taylor Swift. Fucking deceitful bitch.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

I hate Taylor Swift so much.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Like so, Taylor Swift's an interesting like topic because the the thing that annoys me the most about Taylor Swift is that she does what I wish artists would do. And like, at least her early stuff, her stuff now sucks. But her early stuff, like, like this is like this was like a 15-year-old that was writing number one hits by herself because they were applicable to people. And they were vague enough for that song for you to interpret that song being about you, but they were specific enough to interpret the song being about a specific situation that has to do with you. And there is artistry there, but the pop music thing took over and then all of her music got shitty. Now, I didn't think it was great to begin with, just because like she was originally a country artist. We have she likes to forget that.

SPEAKER_04 28:26

But I used to love I used to love Taylor Swift. Now we're not talking about Taylor Swift, though, because I can go on and on about how she's a liar and how she fooled all of you. But I'm not gonna do that. But that's where we're at here. All right, everything with everything with music, um, I don't know. I just, you know, it's market tested, it's polished, it's clean, but it sucks. There's there's no soul.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

There's no soul, and you don't have to be good at it. Like the what annoys me the most is Machine Gun Kelly uses auto-tune in his concerts. That's not even your voice. Like, come on, dude. Like, there's so many good artists that nobody knows and nobody talks about because assholes like that are out there getting tattoos because it makes it look cooler in the photo.

SPEAKER_04 29:21

Well, listen, I'm just gonna say this though, because we can't blame Machine Gun Kelly completely. MM did kill him, bring him back to life, and turn him into a pop rock star.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

So I guess. Like there, but the the thing I like is like there's a resurgence right now of Blink 182, because they're there's like a re-release of Take Off Your Pants and Jacket, one of their best albums. And like that encourages me. Young people are getting into Blink 182, like that's where it starts, and there's still always gonna be the classics, like they'll never go away, like your Led Zeppelins, like your Rolling Stones, the Beatles, you know, like there's there's things that will last, which I guess is nice, but man, it's it's just so disappointing because music is my favorite medium of art because it can move you to feel something in four minutes, whether that's happiness or sadness, or it can move you to cry in four minutes. There's no other medium of art that does that, and it to me, I I I don't think. And so I don't know, man. It's just it's disappointing. Um, if there's any takeaway from it, like give your kids an instrument, like give them an outlet, a creative outlet that is productive. Get them guitar lessons, like let them do those things because it's important and it's cool and it's fun and it gets you thinking in a different way. And then when they're when they're older, they can do LSD.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

Hey, I'm on board for LSD.

SPEAKER_04 31:00

You know, fun fact when you're older, older kids.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Yeah, like 15 or 16, that's when you start. No. Uh the fun fact, uh, the Beatles really didn't do that much LSD. Only John Lennon did. They get labeled like they were when they went through their weird phase of like strawberry fields and the magical mystery tour and all that.

SPEAKER_04 31:28

Honestly, I'd probably like them more if they did more drugs.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 31:36

Yeah. Alright, well, I think we've established that I'm grumpy and I'm still old. Right?

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Yeah, you are very old. This is a very old person take, but I also think you're right.

SPEAKER_04 31:50

I yeah, I there is a difference. I am correct.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

So yeah, and if that makes me old, then I'll take I'll take it. Because, like, you can't tell me, you can't listen to Led Zeppelin and then whiz Khalifa back to back and or you know what, even better? Led Zeppelin and then Drake back to back and tell me Drake's better.

SPEAKER_05 32:12

Right.

SPEAKER_04 32:13

Yeah. Well, Led Zeppelin's my favorite band of all time.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

So they're one of the greatest rock bands of all time.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Well, they are the greatest. Right above the Beatles.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

I mean, I would I'd probably give you that. The like John Bonham on drums revolutionized the instrument. He's he did things with that instrument nobody did before. And it's and and now they're like commonplace, like it propelled music forward. That's what those bands did. Like now everyone just wants to be here. There's nobody pushing the envelope to be like more creative. They're just pushing the envelope, and like, how how many times can we say what ass pussy in a song?

SPEAKER_04 32:52

Yeah, well, they want it to get on the radio, and then they want it to become a song for a commercial. That's what they want. Yeah, that's what they want. They they don't give a shit about that anymore. Um I don't know. It's really disappointing.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Uh you know what actually the the the real problem with this is Jared Leto, uh yeah, Jared Leto did a documentary about this once. The music industry in general is all messed up because you can't make money doing it. That's why people don't do it. That's why they only release singles. Because you you don't make money from album sales, you only make money from touring, and you only make money from touring if everyone knows your stuff. So all I have to do is release 12 singles over five years that like somewhat hit. I'll do my B side stuff while we're there, and like that's all we care about. So if you're a band right now and you want to record an album, let's say you get signed by uh like you get a record deal, they front you a ton of money to make to record the album. Now with it, that's with interest. So you owe a huge loan with interest on making the album. Now you have the album, but you can't really sell the album. So now you got to go on tour. So now the record company fronts all the money for you to go on tour now. And so now you have two loans that you're paying.

SPEAKER_05 34:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

And you and so like now you go on tour all year long, you make all of that money, you pay those loans back, and you have a little bit extra for yourself. Not much, you have a little bit extra. And now it's like, okay, well, we have to record another album, let's do that again. So there's no possible way for bands to actually get out there anymore.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

Right. Well, you know what? I think the solution is we all just stop listening to new music until they fix this shit.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Yeah, I never really started.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

I know, but there's still people who do. Yeah, yeah. They just don't know enough. All right. Well, this is a good time to get into the deep end and talk about the 90s. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

One of the best eras of music, dude.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

Yeah, it was the last time that I can remember where it felt like everything had personality. Yeah. I think the 90s were the best decade because of the music, the movies, the toys. The snacks, the snacks, TV, snacks were great. Awesome slang that, like, you know, you weren't gonna get punished for fashion. And like, even the culture, like, had personality. Like, it was fun, it was optimistic, um, it was sometimes edgy, I had some soul. Um, and now it's 2026 and everything, everything basically sucks. Well, TV's yeah, TV's better, too. Like, TV's good. Uh, streaming's bad, but TV is good.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Yeah, the programming, like the actual program itself is good. The means of it is bad. Yeah. Um, I think a big part of this though, there's no internet.

SPEAKER_04 35:56

Yeah, that's absolutely absolutely true.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

There's no internet, there are barely any cell phones. Like, it's not like you could carry around one of those bricks in your pocket. So people were disconnected, and you had to actually interact with people. It was the last decade we did that.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Well, I don't want to interact with people.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Yeah, but like, you know what I mean, right? Like, there's connection. You couldn't talk to somebody, you know, via text. You had to like talk to them on the phone and hear their voice and understand their tone. Like, there was a difference, and it was much better in the 90s, man. Everything was great. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_04 36:31

Um, but like the music, like we were just talking about music, so let's get into it. The music was better in the 90s for 100% sure, right? Um, I mean, like, there was so much of it, too. Like, there was so much music. Like, I couldn't wait to run home from school, put on MTV, put on TRL. And I know that makes me really old, but like you had rap, you had rock, you had brunch, like it played everything, and you were like, this is awesome. And like, you didn't hate any of it. Well, except maybe it was all awesome. Yeah, except maybe some Alanis Morissette songs, because uh like isn't ironic. Is the the only ironic thing about that song is the title because none of it's ironic. She's just pointing out stuff.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

The thing that's ironic about it is her next song was about David Coulier, Uncle Joey. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

Uh, but they worked it out, they talked on the phone. It's fine.

SPEAKER_05 37:35

They worked it out, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:37

Uh, but I like I I don't know. The 90s were just so cool. The music, like, yeah, man. We what did we have? We like let's just point some things out.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

Uh Nirvana, blues traveler, blues traveler, the gin blossoms, gin blossoms. Um, you you had awesome one-hit wonders like the spin doctors.

SPEAKER_04 37:58

Yes, the spin, yes, yes. Awesome. Oh man. Um, but you had bigger. Yeah, beastie boys, beastie. You had the East Coast, West Coast beef. Oh. That ended tragedy, but it was cool while it was happening. Was it really tragedy? Yeah, we lost Biggie. We lost Tupac.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

Yeah. Tupac went in there looking for a fight.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

I'm gonna say this though. I'm gonna say this. Tupac, this is not this is 90s related, but kind of not. Tupac is a was a better actor than Will Smith. And I think Tupac would have been just as big of an actor as Will Smith is today.

SPEAKER_01 38:50

Uh yes, I bet you, and he probably wouldn't have slapped Chris Rock in the face.

SPEAKER_04 38:54

I think Will Smith is probably I just caught the he said. I think Will Smith is probably top three actors of all time.

SPEAKER_03 39:07

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 39:09

Yes. His range is very good. His range is incredible. Um, even as in Fresh Prince, he was good.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Um, yeah, yeah. I mean, there were like a couple episodes that were like a lot more serious. I love Fresh Prince, and like he was always pretty good in that show. A lot of people don't realize he was a gold record recording artist before the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. That's how he got the show.

SPEAKER_04 39:34

Yeah, uh, yeah. Um, I still listen to um a couple of his songs. I got on Miami. I think uh no, I think it's uh the summer, summer, summer time. Is that him?

SPEAKER_01 39:49

Yeah, is that yeah, I think so. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 39:53

All right, what do what's up next? We we just did music. The 90s had everything. Movies. I mean, the the what do you got for movies? Movies.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

If you want to talk about it, we can go. We got time.

SPEAKER_01 40:07

Well, the only thing I wanted to say, well, it's not the only thing, but like the last time that music did exactly what we're talking about, right? Where you had these people that had like something to say, but they said it in like a nuanced way. Um, like I always come, I always come back to like one of the best written songs of the 90s was a song Hook by Blue Travelers. Blues Traveler, sorry. Yeah. Uh they do you know the story behind that song at all? No, I don't. I just know I love the song. So this was like a defiant moment because music was moving into a pop direction. And so they were trying to convince Blues Traveler, well, your next album, your big song has to have a hook. So you have to become more pop. You have to like do this a certain way. Uh, you have to like do what we're telling you in order for us to make money. And so the song Hook is about how he's writing about how it doesn't matter what I say as long as there's a good hook, like I'll I'll make it good, right?

SPEAKER_04 41:04

No shit.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

So that's what the song's about. And I'm like, let's go. It gets me pumped up because the last time we did that, everybody after that gave right into the music industry, what they wanted, what was gonna make them famous. Moose travel was like, no, I'm gonna write songs for us. I'm gonna write what I want to write about, and people will like it because I'm writing about it. People will like it because our band is good, I believe in us, we have good melodies, and we will find a hook anyway. You don't have to create one for us.

SPEAKER_05 41:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:35

Oh, you know what else about music? I just have to say this. Um, the music video. Oh, yes, because like they were like, we're like releasing a new music video next week, and you're you were like ready. You're like, oh, I can't wait to see this. Like they were like this huge events that you what you wanted to be there for. Like, I gotta see this. Everybody's gonna be talking about it at school, and I need to see this music video. Um what happened to that shit?

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Nobody watches TV anymore, but yeah, the music video thing, like there's tons of music videos out there, even for today's music, but they're all just like they're all just they're all just made to be like this weird production that has nothing to do with the songs. They're just like, how can we get as many like sexualized women out there on the screen as possible? And it's just it's again, it's cheap, it's phony, it's lazy. Like, I think about okay, so I just watched this awesome documentary about the BC Boys, funny enough. And they were um, it was I've never seen one like this before. It was the two guys that are are still alive in um the BC Boys on a stage with a screen behind them where they were showing like photos and videos and stuff, and they were the talking about how they got started, and they were talking about like what drove them to do certain things, but then they showed a couple of their music videos and they were awesome, like Intergalactic Planetary.

SPEAKER_04 43:08

Oh, that was an awesome, awesome music video. Oh my god, it was incredible, and they did it all themselves. Did you know I saw them perform that song live at um uh Saturday Night Live? No way, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Yeah, wait, is that is that the year they did sabotage as well?

SPEAKER_04 43:30

Oh man, I don't remember. They did uh they they did uh intergalactic, and then the other cool thing was I didn't even put this in our run sheet, but we should talk about the 90s girls. But Jennifer Love Hewitt was hosting that night, and I talked to her.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

No way, no, I didn't. I wish I did. You should have just lied.

SPEAKER_04 43:57

But yeah, everybody loved her, everybody loved her.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

the the the 90s like girl next door sweet uh sweetheart type character people man where where'd they go right there's no nuance they just beat you over the head with it it's like that's it's it's so annoying but I believe I I I do believe that that was the same I think because I I don't know if the Beastie boys were ever on SNL more than once performing and so you saw them play sabotage live most likely this might not be right someone can someone can fact check me in the comments but no one comments so it doesn't matter the um but that was like an iconic performance by them because it wasn't too long after that that Adam Yoke passed away um and maybe like a year or so after that and then they never played together again um but I'm pretty if you were there to see that holy shit dude that is amazing well so I might have only heard the one song and me so I didn't go well let me make this fast I didn't go to the live taping I saw the rehearsal dress rehearsal was on TV yeah so um so general love hewitt was still there they were still there but like basically they'd play a ton of or they do a ton of different skits that like don't make it yeah so and the audience kind of gets to be a part of like voting on which ones get on TV yeah that's really cool that dress rehearsal period is all about um like what jokes work and what don't and then what's your scrap based on what works and what don't right um but that this is a good point too SNL was awesome in the 90s oh god yeah that was Adam Sandler that was Chris Farley David Spade Norm McDonald all those guys yeah and then SNL was good you've got Seinfeld you've got friends um you've got family matters boy meets world the fresh prince of Bel Air um shit I can't remember um Jamie Foxx TV show what the what the hell was the name of in Living Color no no no no no um oh man I can't remember what what the sitcom was but it was so funny I loved the sitcom it was so funny I can't remember what it was wasn't it just called the Jamie Foxx show oh that's what it was yeah it was the Jamie Foxx show yeah and then you had Martin which was hilarious too yeah yes oh man the 90s were so much better everything about prime dude yeah everything it was just prime the Bills the the Bills the Bills in the 90s bro the Steelers the Steelers weren't that good yeah that's okay the Bills were uh they were but like hall of famer after hall of famer on that roster Jim Kelly Thurman Thomas Bruce Smith Andre Reed Smith yes come on own the 90s Bruce Smith one of my favorite football players of all time I got his rookie card dude I I got his rookie card laying around here somewhere no way bro yeah yeah yeah I mean that that team really was incredible and like the whole the whole vibe around it right like you see footage from it nowadays and like people are still smoking in the stadium so you got Bills fans that are just losing their goddamn minds with cigarettes hanging out of their mouth just ripping darts dude oh what a tough I'm gonna not that's not I'm I'm glad smoking's not a thing now like let's let's be clear about that but like to see the imagery of that and I don't know is the 90s in Buffalo was a place to be 90s the death of the smoking section yeah yes the death of the smoking section because I remember when I was yeah it is but I remember in high school we'd go to um we'd go to the diner at like two in the morning smoke cigarettes and drink coffee for I don't know and it was cool just to get lobster yeah lobster and cigarettes and a whole lot of coffee yeah man what a it really you really start to think back and it's like I was a lot younger than you at that in the 90s so like I grew up on like rug rats and like what do you mean the Gelodean shows what do you mean a lot younger I was born in 1993. Yes that's true yeah all right okay fair enough um all right so next topic movies were better in the 90s movies they were fun they were memorable full of personality they were just allowed to be movies instead of like this thing or rebooting the same old story or just making sure like it checked a bunch of boxes not like in 2026 where like you've got to have a disabled person a native american a trans person a gay person black person a white person who doesn't look white uh you gotta have like like a quarter of a Jewish person to be able to get an award like what are we doing let's just have movies yeah what's good yeah what's gone now what's completely gone now is like uh a major indie film like making it right you didn't you didn't need like a franchise like you could you could just make goodwill hunting and everybody's happy with that so I'm so glad you brought that up because I was just gonna say uh Matt Damon spoke a lot about this topic and he said you won't have a goodwill hunting anymore it will never happen again yeah because of that right it's going to be this map like there are some like movies out there that like do make it really big but they have massive production they're not and there's like a massive amount of like corporation like intertwined in the movie itself so you're not gonna have just like a cool indie movie. Like I think about movies like Pay It Forward do you remember that Haley Joel Osmond no Kevin Spacey which probably wasn't a good idea looking back the lesson um awesome film absolutely awesome film um but you're never gonna have it yeah that it's a it's a good one um Helen Hunt in it awesome movie I always think about when I when I think about one of those like wholesome cool movies is I am Sam oh yes I am Sam was a 2000s though but oh was it yeah yeah dude I I'm gonna guess 2003 or four and we should search this to see if I'm right all right uh but you got uh I could point out I I could pick another one Rounders yeah yeah which is Matt Damon film Edward Norton great movie Rounders is one of my favorites movie um yeah but you didn't need a superhero movie with a ton of CGI or anything you you need a good story and good actors and I'm gonna and a good cinematographer because that makes all the difference um but I do think I'm gonna push back a little bit I that must have been a couple years ago I think he did that interview because I remember it um I think he's wrong I think streaming can fix this um because on Netflix there was a movie that I loved um it's called Strange and Interesting Creatures or Brilliant Interesting Creatures or Brilliant Creatures.

SPEAKER_04 51:38

I don't know it's about a lady who likes an octopus um at the aquarium and like the octopus you're hearing he's telling the story and he's trying to solve this lady's problems and um it's it's a really cool movie you know but there's no real big like CGI except for the octopus obviously um because I don't think other than the main character there's really not a lot of CGI yeah but like it's just like a a story about people doing people things.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

Yeah you know yeah so I I think you're right about this and I think a distinction to be made is he I think he was specifically talking about like movies and theater right like the whole theater industry is kind of going under because streaming services are putting out their own films and there's no you don't have to like go to the movie theater to see it. Because like the only ones are in theaters anymore are going to be those big franchises.

SPEAKER_04 52:27

Yeah but the thing is nobody's gonna see those either like I mean people are thinking so but people do. Yeah people do but like like the Odyssey I'm not going to see that in theaters.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

No why would you yeah I don't need it also when Dune came out I was like I can't wait to go see this film but I'm not gonna go see it. I'm just gonna wait the couple extra months that it takes for it to end up on HBO and I'll do it then.

SPEAKER_04 52:51

Same. Exactly um but like all right back to the 90s um the the movies action movies were ridiculous it was just a bunch of cars blowing up and then Bruce Willis saying yippie kai motherfucker comedies were actually funny because nobody was worried about offending anybody um kids' movies were strong they were awesome and they weren't teaching kids dumb shit they were just cool movies about like big life lessons like take care of your friends family is important that type of shit sports movies what yes any given sundae um uh what's the uh one with Denzel Washington is that a 90s movie um Remember the Titans remember the Titans I don't know if that's a 90s movie uh I don't think that it is but uh it I'll yeah it's uh it's off the movie well we'll grandfather of it dude I I'll go even further like movies like Rookie of the Year yeah Angels in the outfield oh my god dude I had I had rookie of the year on repeat I could literally recite the movie to you the mighty the mighty ducks the mighty ducks oh my good god coach Gordon Bombay Coach Gordon Bombay who started the franchise in Anaheim because of Disneyland because of that movie they got an expansion team because of that movie um but I the different owners came in and ruined all of that uh really oh they completely ruined it that that the Mighty Ducks logo best logo in all of sports of all time ever I will fight anybody in a physical altercation of fisticuffs about it I actually think you're right yeah it's the b there is no other the only thing that kind of comes close is the old Toronto Raptors logo with the dinosaur actually dribbling awesome logo but that mighty ducks one untouchable and what is it now it's a D.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

No way it's the letter D, I think it's the letter D. They used to have this letter D, but it like kind of looked like a duck's foot. Oh stupid oh I got another one and this is 90s this is so 90s the Hornets logo the Charlotte Hornets logo with the purple and the teal and the badass Hornet with the basketball yes okay you might be right about this that is one of the best logos in all the sports of all time I think we just named three top three and I don't want to hear any comments about soccer logos or anything like that because it's not really a sport sorry it's a wild thing to say about the most popular sport in the world well this is America and America we played football um all right yeah they do I wrote some like like awesome I and I could have gone on forever and ever and ever about this um but I wrote some movies that I thought that were like just so impactful to like the culture and like the zeitgeist I don't know uh Terminator 2 like what a bad like one of the only sequels that's better um if you wanted to argue with me I guess you could say aliens was uh you've got Toy Story all the Pixar stuff coming out Clueless Homeless Forrest Gump The Matrix 10 Things I hate about you Julia Styles no but Heath Ledger fucking stud you got Jurassic Park Goodwill Hunting and I'm pretty sure the Big Lebowski it was a 90s movie I mean look at this list give me a list in 2026 that like I mean yes The Matrix and Jurassic Park huge big budget films Terminator 2 as well but like give me a list like that like that stands up to this list from 2000 to 2026 there isn't I mean look at the movie the list of movies you have here from a 10 year span and you could go from 2000 to 2026 a 26 year span and it's not even gonna come close I know I can keep going yeah dude um so Jurassic Park I think is a great ex completely encapsulates what we're talking about then 1992 3 Jurassic Park 1 comes out completely revolutionary no one's ever seen shit like this before because you have actual animatronics which is like as an actor I'm sure way better be acting with this massive dinosaur head and like being able to feel that in that moment. But it also looked great on film. A lot of people don't know that Jurassic Park 1 completely revolutionized CGI. So there was there there was this one critical shot in the movie and it almost didn't the movie almost didn't happen because they couldn't figure out how to get this shot. So they're you know that one part where they're like panning over the field you see all those dinosaurs like running they have to hide behind the log right yes so that's CGI. What they didn't have the technology or capability to do at the time was move the camera while things were running. They couldn't get the CGI thing to actually look like it was running across unless it was a still camera. Right. So it revolutionized everything the way that they can motion capture that way while CGI is still traversing across going in and out of frame and like how it moves with the camera also moving and the angles of all that that was the first movie that ever did that. They they that crew figured out how to do it. That was probably the thing that opened the most doors for move for movies today. And uh there are I the reason I bring this up specifically two reasons really awesome doc documentary series on Netflix called the movies that made us yes I've seen that oh my god I mean awesome it's so cool to see like where these classic movies came from how they got made but secondly Sam and I just did this with Jurassic Park we did a like a marathon where we like watched those movies over the course of a couple like weeks and so we started with the original went all the way through and I will tell you they should not have made any of them after the first one they're all awful but because we started in the 90s when everything was cool and it was fresh and we did it the right way for the right reasons after that that franchise was only trying to make money and it ruined everything. I know I gotta say though it Jurassic Park the the first one the 90s one best Jurassic Park but yeah if I had to put a trilogy I'd pick the Chris Pratt trilogy over the original trilogy I guess if you had to pick the trilogy as a whole I would agree but we didn't even finish all of the Jurassic World movies because they're just nonsense. It's just like how can we explode as many things as possible?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

Did you watch the one with um Scarlett Johansson? Uh no not yet because that's the most recent one it wasn't that great.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

But yeah Dominion Scarlet Johansson no is it Dominion it is Dominion oh well I it wasn't that great but if Scarlett Johansson's in it I want to watch it I mean fair point but like what what you just said oh you know one of the highest grossing films in the last 10 years and it wasn't even that good because they're not making it to be a good movie they're making it to make money look at Star Wars the the the the last three Star Wars franchise saga movies were objectively terrible and yes I said objectively and if you want to have a debate about this I'll fucking do it those movies are horrible horrible horrible horrible just rehashed a bunch of shit nobody had to earn anything there were no payoffs except like shitty ones because you were like oh the emperor's back great let's kill him again Luke Luke and Darth Vader like they their sacrifices meant nothing but whatever they don't make good movies they don't make good stories all they do nowadays is make something pretty on TV to keep me fucking distracted yes yeah and that's that's the whole thing so to to your point the real the real reason they they make those movies anymore honestly is because Disney owns it and they have a theme park and they have to keep people interested in it so they keep making those movies to keep young generations involved it's the same thing with Toy Story. The only reason they keep making those movies yeah they gotta sell toys yeah they gotta sell toys they gotta get people in their park right I actually there's actually the same thing with uh uh Nickelodeon if you were a kid in the 90s Nickelodeon was the shit it was the coolest thing you could watch be involved in or do nothing was cooler than Nickelodeon until SpongeBob ruined all of it it did watch I mean I keep talking about documentaries uh it's called the Orange Years it's all about why why they made Nickelodeon why it started why they made the shows that they did and how they did it like very very interesting iconic things like salute your shorts awesome TV show incredible and Brennan Stimpy Brennan Stimpy they they talk about it like when Spongebob came it was such a craze and it was everywhere it was so big that corporate bigwigs got involved and they're like how do we maximize profits with Spongebob and it took away all of the fun like if you look at Nickelodeon Studios if you watch any of those shows like remember figure it out no legends of the hidden temple I remember Legends of the hidden temple but I wasn't watching it I just remember it I was double there any of those I was older by then by by then yeah you were in your you'd have been in your 30s um they they they at the end of every episode they would talk about if you want to be a contestant you can write in you can send us a postcard or whatever you send it to this mailing address and they had a picture of Nickelodeon studios there and it was awesome this building was painted with all these cool colors and there was like a flying fountain and it was like all fun and just like crazy and wacky but then as soon as SpongeBob took over all of that shut down. They took the fountain out of there all the whole building was painted just gray and it's so sad and depressing. Like what I literally welled up in my eyes looking at it because I'm like this is this was my entire childhood and what I a lot of the things I loved about it waking up in the summer and flicking on Nickelodeon and they had the summer jams go in it was like a cool thing. It was just like nostalgic and I and then you see it now and it's just like man that is so it's so depressing.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:37

I know so yeah now since you're talking about this is a good way to get into the next one toys snacks and childhood culture were better in the 90s unequivocally prove me wrong the 90s were elite toys snacks kid culture like you're talking about Nickelodeon uh everything was fun dangerous colorful probably full of bad chemicals that like we you shouldn't eat uh yeah the the snack aisle holy moly you've got dunkaroos dunkaroos you got fruit by the foot um oh my god yeah what the freak oh my god i can't i can't even think um the the the toys holy shit my ninja my ninja turtle car i can't remember what it was called but it was the coolest fucking thing that had 30 different like little tiny pieces that were all choking hazards and nobody gave a fuck well at 30 years old if you're putting that in your mouth like that's your that's a you problem uh yeah but what what I remember the most I honestly I don't think I really owned any like cool 90s toys um because all my all my stuff

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

When I was growing up, it was all like hand-me-downs from my brother, right? So, like, I never got any new cool new shit. But what I remember the most are commercials for the toys.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:09

I I know the commercial for the toys. Holy moly! Oh my god. Electric.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:15

Electric.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:17

I know. They're so cool. Like you phloam? Did you say phloam? Yeah. Yes. Oh my god. The last time we talked, we talked about gack. Now you're bringing up phloam. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:36

There was one toy in specific. Oh god. There was one toy in sp yeah, there was one toy in specific that like they cannot make anymore because it was so toxic. So many children were near death. It was this um, it was like this product that was made to feel like you could blow up a balloon with a straw and it would blow up, but it would stay because it was like this really weird toxic like plastic that if you inhale, it would like would like kill you. But the commercial was so good, all you wanted was this fucking thing. There was also this really dumb like balloon Mylar balloon frisbee thing. I forget what it was called, but I just remember watching this, and these kids are in this house, this unbelievable house in the Midwest. These people were like super rich. I don't know what they did for a living, but they they were like throwing this thing around the house and it would like go off the banister, like down and really cool. It was awesome. Only come to find out it's a fucking balloon, it's a Mylar balloon, it's all it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:40

I have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

Oh, it was incredible, but like everyone was so excited. Uh, do you remember the football that was only half a football so you could throw it off of a wall and play by yourself? No, I had a oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:57

Unlike now, I had a bunch of friends when I was a kid. Yeah, this toy was specifically for losers.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:05

Losers. But John Elway was in this commercial.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:09

Oh, no way.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:11

Yeah, John Elway. And it was like the commercial was all these kids were like playing around in the yard, and there was this one kid that was like, Man, I just want to be able to throw the ball and catch it myself. And it was like inexplicably, no reason why. And so all the friends off at the distance that like didn't want to play with this kid, they look over and he like morphed into John Elway. And he's got this football, and it has like a like a flat rounded end, so you could launch it off of a brick building and it would bounce back to you. But you know what else would do that? Is their football.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:48

Yes. Oh my god. This is awesome.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:54

Umerf was in his heyday. Oh, I yeah, I mean, listen to this. Listen, listen to this list. You got super soakers, you got nerf guns, you got pogs, you got power rangers, ninja turtles. Uh I already mentioned action figures with tiny choking hazards, gushers, fruit by the foot, dunkaroos, capri sun, lunchables, warheads, bubble tape, and yogurt with sprinkles. That's not healthy, but who wants to be healthy? You're a kid.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

Oh my god, dude. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get sad soon.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:34

Oh man, it's tough getting.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:36

I'm gonna get really sad. The Capri Sun commercial? Out of this world, electric. You drink a Capri Sun? Go ahead. You drink a Capri Sun, all of a sudden you turn into Alex Mack and all the way from the.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:01

So cool! But like they didn't plan that.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:03

That happened organically. Alex Mack, ayi, awesome show. Awesome show. Loved Alex Mack. Dude, and the fashion, like Alex Mack to me encapsulates the I've said that word a lot today. They encapsulates the fashion of the 90s. It's like kind of grungy, baggy, flannel shirt, and like it was a you would just wear like this crazy color, maybe striped yellow and teal t-shirt with overalls. You got your Chuck Taylors on, a backwards hat, and the style choice, it's like 99 degrees out in the summer. You still wrap your flannel around your waist.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:44

Yeah. Um, since we're on fashion, um, everybody had to have a starter jacket. Everybody had to have a starter jacket, and it didn't it didn't matter. Like, you could be from Connecticut wearing like a 49er starter jacket, and you were fucking awesome. You felt great. Yeah. Oh my god, yeah. Yeah. The flannel you already mentioned, overalls with one strap.

unknown 1:11:08

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:10

Bowl cuts. Bowl cuts. Every kid had a bowl cut when I was in middle school. It was so funny. I have a bowl cut. I parted I parted my hair to the side. Yeah. And then in eighth grade, I parted it in the middle because I wanted to be like Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:28

Oh, Jonathan Taylor Thomas rocked his counterpart. So did um Nick Carter, Backstreet Boys.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:37

Oh, they I mean, all the all all the cool dudes did.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:41

Oh, Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:43

T heartdrob. I know. I thought he was the coolest. I I wanted to be him.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:48

I was like, man, every girl loves him. Why? I'll just part my hair in the middle.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:53

Nobody liked me. You know what everyone forgets about the 90s as well, in terms of fashion? That Looney Tunes had a licensing deal with most of the major sports uh leagues. So you had a Buffalo Bills t-shirt with the Tasmanian Devil holding the football.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:11

Oh, yes, I do remember that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:14

Forget about this. That was awesome. That was awesome. Now, if you were in your 50s and you got the Tasmanian Devil t-shirt, I got some questions. But if you were a kid and you saw adults walking around with Looney Tunes on their shirt and they all had Bills jerseys on, give me more.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:32

I definitely had one of those shirts.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:34

I definitely did.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:36

I definitely had one of those Tasmanian Devil shirts. I can't remember what the sports team was, but I definitely had one. Um yeah, Tweety Bird.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:43

Now you know where all those Tweety Bird t-shirts are at now? Walmart. Yeah, obese people at Walmart. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:53

Yeah, and they're wearing pajamas. Fucking pajamas in public.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:58

I did think about this. The pajamas in public, especially with the Walmart people, is I don't think to them those are pajamas. I think those are just that's their A outfit.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:09

That's their their Sunday slacks.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:13

Oh man. I gotta do that. Oh, go ahead. Go. Just one thing I want to say about 90s fashion. I'm sorry that we're taking so much time on this, but like I have to remove this. The thing about it was that it was so expressive. Like it wasn't, it wasn't um, it wasn't trying to be the center of attention. It wasn't the main character, right? But it was expressive, it was weird and out there. Like a lot of the the late 80s, right? When like it was really, really crazy. And like fashion people wore like like girls would wear like those like gloves, the fingerless gloves, and like just kind of crazy fashion choices skirts with belts, like like several belts. Like that was kind of like crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:56

Yeah, they were trying to be outrageous.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:57

But like you're trying to be outrageous.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

The 90s was more, it was more about being like, I'm I'm fun and comfortable, and I look cool, even though I'm I'm I look ridiculous, like, but nobody cared.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:12

Nobody cared. It was awesome because it was a much more like tame, toned down, late 80s craziness. And it was just so cool, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:23

Uh, you know what was awesome, and I never had one, and I always asked for one, and I never got one. Chain wallets. I wanted a wallet chain. I had a chain wallet. I wanted a wallet. Well, I had my big Jinko jeans and uh like my Marilyn Manson t-shirt, and I wanted a chain wallet to go with it, and I never got one. Yeah. Oh, you know what else I never got that I really wanted? Yeah. I I when I got into freshman year, I cut my hair off and I started like spiking it, and I wanted to frot I wanted to frost my tips, and uh my parents wouldn't let me.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:02

Damn, dude. The frosted tips. Yeah. Just just wild. What a wild concept. But it was so cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:15

So cool. And now it's coming back, and I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:18

But uh no, because it's not it's not it's not cool now.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:22

No, no, because it's not kids doing it, it's like 40-year-olds. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:29

Fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:30

Get a job. That's a problem. Yeah, get a job. Um yeah, what else do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

It is weird that 90s fashion is is making it a comeback, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:39

Like, yeah, but that's what makes you feel really old. I don't like it though, because it's not 90s fashion. It's like it's new, it's to 2026 version of 90s fashion, and I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:53

Yeah, I guess that's how fashion trends go, right? You combine the vintage with the new. It's just really interesting, it kind of in general, when you think about like when we were in the 90s watching those movies, and there would be a flashback. Well, it's like the late 60s, early 70s. We were watching a TV show just the other day where they had a flashback and it was the 90s. And I was like, oh god, I when we're getting old, then that's the sign. When they're flashbacks to where to when they were we children, it's the 90s.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:25

Uh I gotta be honest with you. If I could stap my fingers and every day um Paige was dressed like Kelly from 902 and oh, I'd be cool with it.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:40

I I don't know. The 90s were uh it was great. Fucking awesome. Stop messing with the 90s stuff, guys. Um, what else we got in the 90s? We got we got slang. Slang was cool. We said dope. Yeah. Man, I miss saying dope. I used to be like, yo, that's dope. And my dad would be like, stop saying that. Like I was saying a bad word. Um as if talked, talk to the hand, talk to the hand. Yeah, and you could say it, and people like took you seriously. They weren't like, like, who's this guy? Like, if I walked up to somebody today, I was like, talk to the hand, they'd be like, What the fuck? Um, yeah, all that in a bag of chips. Man, what a what a great fucking line. Especially if somebody was like trying you, and you you'd be like, nah, I'm all that in a bag of chips, son. And people would be like, or you got you've got whatever, but it's not whatever. It's whatever. Whatever. Not, yeah, I really like you. Not oh man, the slang is just fucking slang, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:53

Not. I was thinking Borat now. You got duh. Duh. Duh.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:03

Wait, wait, when was um what was um like uh radical, tubular, bodacious? That's like like West Coast surfer slang, but I feel like that was 90s. Well what one that's still used today in certain skateboarding only communities is stoked.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:24

Oh, I used to say stoked.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:26

That was my I still say it sometimes. Yeah, I'm so stoked.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:31

Yeah, I'm I'm cooking dinner tonight. I'm stoked.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:34

Yeah. I also I also really like the some of those comedians. You know, like uh those two guys that go to like town hall meetings, like council meetings, and they go like, so I think this is a big problem with our Constitution, and uh and there's just not enough stoke out there, and it really harshes my mellow. And I just all I want to do is just like have the copious amounts of stoke.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:03

This is so good. Oh my god. Oh man, I'm trying to think.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:12

Oh, so we uh so I had like two different like groups when I was uh like in high school in the 90s, so like I had my my Catholic school friends, and then I had my public school friends, right? So like we would say, like, oh Dan, you're duh, or whatever, like you know, dope. Um, but when I was with my public school friends, I'd be like, Oh, you got sunned, and that meant you got burnt because the sun is hot. You got sunny, you got sunned, yeah. Oh man, love it. Oh, love it. Uh you called somebody 730. That bitch is 730. That means she's crazy. You could like the slang was so cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:00

That one I've never heard of until just now.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:03

Oh man, if you want to hear more slang, um look up on Spotify Big L, the slang song. And he explains slang. It's really it's really cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:17

I'll send it to you. Um I need to see this.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:21

What else we got? Oh, um, holy moly, you've got the big like um parachute pants with a tight T. You've got um a headband, and then you're wearing ski goggles in the 90s. Yes, yes, yes. The 90s were so much cooler, they were expressive, and you just looked ridiculous. And I don't know, you just weren't all fucking uppity about shit. Like, it was just awesome. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:56

Oh my god, dude. You know what I think about too is like Hansen. Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:07

Yes. By the way, Hansen today, unbelievable band. But like, again, going back to music for just a second, nobody cares. They're amazing. Their songs are awesome. Yeah, yeah. Their songs are awesome.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:20

Dude, I was in eighth grade when that song came out.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:25

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:27

I remember being in Mr. German's algebra 2 class in eighth grade, singing mm bop with like five or six people in the class.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

Hang on, I want to look something up.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:45

Why? It's 97 or 96. 97.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Um, so again, right, like the the whole thing. I so I know that like 80s hairbands and like the 70s, 80s, like dudes had long hair, but it wasn't like the 90s. They were styling their hair in the in this 80s, like that with those hairbands and all that, teasing it, making it big and like frizzy and all that thing. That was like the style.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:16

In the 90s, do like dudes would have long hair and they would just have it. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:22

You know, they just hung there.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:24

It was just hair. Yeah, it was just hair. We're not trying to be fancy about it. Uh, or if this is my hair, this is how much of it I have. Like, uh, it's just like so cool. You know what it was? I think this this like is all encompassing maybe of like the 90s. It was carefree. Yes, it was carefree. So I I do this the thought experiment with people all the time. And I I and I'm gonna ask you the same question. I know we've been talking about the 90s, but pretend we didn't for a second. If you could go back and be any age you want, what age would you be? Oh, it'd be 10 years old. This is why we're soulmates. This is why we're soulmates.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:07

Like, because you know, but also like you're carefree. Like, yeah, there it's just all potential.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:19

Yeah. The I I ask people this question all the time, and they're always like, Oh man, I could I want to be 22 again, I want to be 21, go out to the club and all this stuff. Almost unanimously, everyone's like, yeah, early 20s, I want to be. Or if I ask somebody like in their 70s, like, what age do you want to be? They'll be like, Oh, I want to be in my 30s again. Right. I'm like, this is all incorrect. 10 years old is the only right answer. The biggest, you know what my biggest concern was when I was 10? When we're out in the street playing hockey, who's goalie?

unknown 1:23:56

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:57

That was the biggest concern I had.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:58

And no, mine too. So this was like we're going out to play football in the street, right? Because we didn't have grass to play.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:10

Wasn't invented yet.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:13

They were just called fields.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:14

No, because I lived in a condominium complex, so there was very little grass for us. Um, so um, I'd be going out there and I'd have a strategy because I wanted to be the quarterback. And like I had a strategy of like, how am I gonna pull this off? Because everybody's gonna want to be it, but I'm the best one out here. That was my biggest worry. Or if we were gonna play manhunt, I wanted to be on Joe's team for manhunt because me and Joe were the best at manhunt, and I'm like, how am I gonna get on Joe's team? Because they're all gonna be pissed that we're on the same team again and we're the best. Um, you know, Joe. Joe Cameron. Oh, I love Joe. Yeah, love Joe. We hope to have him on the show soon. Dude, he was so good at manhunt, it was wild. That's I believe that when you were a kid, like carefree, summertime. Your parents let you outside. They pay basically forced you to go outside, and you didn't come back until it was dark, or somebody's mom got really, really mad about something.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:19

Everybody had to go in.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:21

You know what was awesome about the 90s though, too? We didn't have social media, yet everyone in America played Manhunt.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:32

How?

SPEAKER_00 1:25:33

How did we all know?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:35

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:36

But we all knew, and that was so cool. That was the cool thing about it, is everyone knew this game.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:44

Yeah, because if we if you don't know what we're talking about, you're too young to watch this podcast. Yeah, like everyone knew the game.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:51

Go outside and play Manhunt, trust me.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:54

Um but it is sad. Like I drive, we have this, we have our you know, our neighborhood here, we live in a development. I don't see kids outside ever. Ever. There's plenty of kids on this street, all in relatively the same age. And I like they're never outside playing hockey. I'll leave see him sometimes. And it's it's sad, man. That is all we did. That is all we had to do. And like we we like you had to be you had to go outside, you had to find something to do. You ran through the woods, and you just like had a ball doing it. Yeah, you uh we got together with all our friends, and we didn't even call each other. We just knew that tomorrow we're all gonna be out in the street and we're gonna play hockey. And everyone brought their stick, and you just knew it was gonna happen, and it was so great.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:48

I didn't have to call anybody. I just ran to their house.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:53

You should just go. And you used to do they're gonna be out there.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:56

Sun's up, sun's up, let's go. Time to go.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:59

Yeah, man. And it's just like one thing I don't think was on your on your list here about the 90s that I think was worth talking about. How much time do we have? Uh three minutes. Okay, let's end with this. Video games in the 90s.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:16

Oh, I didn't put you know why I didn't put on video games in the 90s? Because I I didn't have a console growing up.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:23

Okay. Well, this has only got a couple minutes. Video games in the 90s were fucking awesome. And you people look back on it now and be like, oh, you couldn't save it. But that was the point. The point was you had to learn, and you had to deal with, but like, seriously, they've studied this now. And like kids that play video games in the 90s are better at dealing with uh struggles because like there was nothing worse than playing Sonic the Hedgehog, and you learn the first three levels, and then you get to the fourth one, and now you're discovering things that are new. You saw something you never saw before, and then you die, and you gotta start all the way back at the beginning. Like As infuriating as it was, it taught you to deal with those things. It also taught you to overcome them. I mean, it was it that like that is like not something to be forgotten, but like you had Sonic the Hedgehog, you had Super Mario, and like I remember the turtle game was electric.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:17

I remember I could never get past the um the water part where you're swimming and you're getting electrified or something by I don't know, seaweed. I don't know what it is. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:27

Terrifyingly difficult, but you can only do it through trial and error. Yeah. But even more than just the game itself and like what it taught you to do and how you played it was that you played video games with people. And you were there, right? You experienced it together on the same tiny TV screen. And I I just I remember like because my we had a Sega Genesis growing up, and so I was maybe five years old. My brother would have been 10. And so he's got his friends there, and I'm just sitting there watching. And the joy that we had when he would get past the boss, like that we haven't gotten past before, and like the celebration we would have together, the camaraderie that brought. NHL 95, unbelievable, like just so fun. And I don't know, man. It didn't have all the frills that we have today. And guy, yes, those frills are great, but like Madden today, worst video game on the market. It could not be a worse video game.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:27

There's so much to like to do. Like you can't just play it. Yeah, you can't make a play and go.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:35

Right. That was the best thing about video games back then, is it did not matter if this was your first time ever playing a video game or if you were a seasoned expert, you could play. You could play, you could play, you could succeed. And nowadays, you can't just like fire up your Xbox and play Madden with someone. I don't even think you can play Madden with someone in the room.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:54

I just thought of something. For video games, we had my dad. I remember him bringing home a PC. Like a company. Oh, yes. And um, I remember he loaded up this floppy disc, and not like this, but floppy disc that's like this big. Oh wow. And uh we played Doom. Doom. Doom. And it was like this, also revolutionary. Yeah, this first person shooter, and you're just killing shit on this computer, and it's wild. But there's also tech mobile.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:34

Tecmo bowl.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:35

I don't care how awesome you were at Tecmo Bowl. If you had Bo Jackson, all you had to do was run to the run to your the other guy's touchdown, turn around, and then just go 120 yards. You were in 110 yards, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:48

Every time. Yeah, it was a cheat code. Yeah, we didn't have we didn't have Tecmo growing up. Our friend had Tecmo, and it was a it was a well-established rule. No one was allowed to have Bo Jackson. Yeah, like it wasn't fun then. Uh yeah, but it was it was just it was great. So so Dune was really interesting because again, another first that happened in the 90s. There had never been a PC game. What like if you're traveling across screen, that like you the screen would move or the the landscape would move with your movements. The only thing they were able to do is once you got to the end of the screen, it would flip to a new screen, and then you were at the beginning, and then you would travel lit like it linear. Revolutionary. I mean, it changed Doom is the reason we have games that we have today. They started that, and that again happened in the 90s.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:40

Fucking 90s were awesome. And let me just end it here because uh we have a lot more about the oh, like we can go on and on about the 90s. Um, they weren't perfect, but what I remember growing up in the 90s is like it was just hopeful. Like people thought the country could be better. Like we were we were good, but like we were gonna save the planet and the ozone layer, and we were gonna do it together, and we weren't pointing fingers at anybody, and it was just like it just felt good and optimistic, and um maybe that's what happened to me. Like, I just really got sucked into the 2000s, and now I'm grumpy and I hate everything. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:20

Yeah, it was such an inclusive time.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:24

Yeah, yeah. I don't know, like obviously, like I don't like well, I don't want to get too deep or anything, but like there was like there was racism, obviously, things weren't perfect, but like no like from where I grew up, nobody cared. Like I grew up in like like a like a poor area, and we had a bunch of white people, we had Spanish, we had black, we had a bunch of Indian kids, like literally from India. Um, and all of us just played and hang out hung out and played football and had a great time.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:03

Yeah, man. I don't know. Carefree.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:06

Yeah, carefree.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:08

I'll leave us with with this. One of my favorite quotes. Oh, go ahead. Well, no, no, I I I want to end it with that. So you will say what you say what you gotta say about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:16

Oh, I was just gonna say about the optimistic thing and saving the planet. Captain Planet came on TV and said, Don't don't dub sludge in the river. And we were like Captain Planet. Fuck yeah, blue guy. You're right. We won't dump sludge in the river.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:32

Hell yeah. Go ahead, man. So good. Well, I'll leave us with this. One of my favorite quotes, I know it's from the office, but like it's a it's a good line. I just wish there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you've left them.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:50

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:55

No, you'll never know.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:57

You'll never know. You know what though I think about is that all that just means that you're in a different era of the good old days. So enjoy it. Enjoy every day.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:11

And for me, that means complaining all the time about everything.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:16

You do you. You do you, Larry. That's what makes me happy, Larry. Oh man. All right, we're gonna wrap it up. Thanks for listening to everybody. Uh wow, thanks for listening to everybody. What Jeff, you do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:34

Well, thanks for listening, everyone. Uh, we hope you had a great time. Um, thanks, you know, just thanks for listening to our podcast. Please engage with us on social media. We're live on there all the time. Um, and just, you know, be excellent to each other, guys. Come on, we're all in this together. Let's make let's make 20 the 2020s the 90s.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:57

Yes. Let's do it. Like, subscribe. Wow, I can't talk. I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:03

I got you. Uh, like, subscribe. You can catch us on Spotify. We got a YouTube channel, all of it's gonna be linked uh in the posts that we put up. Um, just try to enjoy yourselves. We're just two guys shooting the shit. We have no credentials to talk about any of this, but we definitely live the 90s.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:18

And send someone this stuff wow. Why can't I talk about it?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:22

I got you. I got you on this. Send this to someone that you like. Um, there's particular parts, send them to someone you dislike uh and make them comment. Uh and let's let's get let's get after it, buds.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:33

Um what's going on? All right, time to go. Bye everyone.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:39

Woogie boogie. Bye, Woogie Boogie.