#13 - Claude Code徹底討論、AI時代に人間が担うべき役割とは

毎日のように活用しているClaude Codeをテーマに、チームのリアルな使用体験と、AIが普及した時代における人間の仕事の本質について語り合ったエピソード。 

・競合リサーチや資料作成での劇的な時間短縮など、Claude Codeが生み出した感動体験を共有 

・処理待ちやUI操作性の不便さ、誤情報を肯定してしまう「楽観的すぎる」特性など、使っているからこそわかる不満点も率直に議論

 ・プロンプトの磨き方よりも「AIに何を食わせるか」という材料集めが人間の主な仕事になりつつあるという気づき 

・AIが整形や要約を担う時代だからこそ、一次情報の重要性と「正しい問いを立てる力」が増しているという認識を共有 

・外注費削減や業務の内製化が進む一方、AIが全パソコン作業を代替する未来とデジタルデトックスの価値についても展望

話し手: 中島、藤澤、若菜

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Aye, Machuto Ano Syking Kando Staternachuto Mukashikam Shine Diskido. Toba Koko Sukagetska. Aye Kimaska Wagano.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Hi. Hi. Kakawa Nisha Moso that she kakawa the hasimed at the Huntoni A shoshinsha adapta. Kiko. Aujisawa Sankaraneko Kuro dokodo No Irohao Yo shit mulatte. Subitani kando staptrunk kikoshujina tokuro. Eto Huntoni Sando Cho to kyusha kamushina sketo Kono kyu kaino kyogo niteri sachisteti eba. Captain istekurete. Autoputumalete kore toka. Eto Ben kyo kayo shi skini naka ni niken sankre atetokini. Kaiigaino. Natterkoto. Shinabete, use tete titara. Ningengayomanake. Yomikomuto sapu daina zikanga kakarisona liono repototokao. Yomikumi. Sokukara daijina pointo kateni autukutoshekuru tokuroto ka mananka soykan tanshkumoso da si dichi de kiranka joho noha mechakiro batanati ukankak tukana taiste kekubukwa makando toka shogiki toyuka sikoi uketa na sne.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Hmmasimuntu kasuto shia skratane.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

So nani mashane so nu kan kakakwa dishi.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Hmm na holo halo So then A serio scripagori me check check hando sa come shot and hand kits so nama sean spokka. And a shidiot scri tashun and scootano Tashka sendnoskika. Kikko my dakle, James Park the shidiot scoot it on me screen at Chima session of Kandoga. Taskka no, so then it might so Jane spark Tashka, you do join it or screenak up then eh? Hm by hi. So so so so so De anoitina. Then at the same time, you don't sabis them screwed in at the Macuro colo. May Chuck Nakatsky asked, eh? Hmaka spiritual chooks should say they kill you notesa. Kainakinakata Mitena. Another taged, chooks should say the kidnappitan. Toko Mama Mamma Takakurti de Anstudio Tsukur. So Tot Jikantask Natin Janakana Kuran.

SPEAKER_04 5:20

So Senejikantashke Studio Sakse Niko Jana Indiscito. So go soisho. Oh, I didok a Saiho even the goosa choton.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Hmm So then Kando Stenoga Atari Bainatik de Kando was it slowly. Shitanaketo. Huri no cardono jokenga kite and subscription no sono yokinga uchina katana. Sky nakunaru nagetal. Kepasat Sky Naganatara Mukashatara, Matskay nine tatara besinotsuritska natuka. Majibun dearo canate muskastala ishun de moyogita com shinagedo. Sky nakunata shungani, sikiya rubik taskwa, kruizu to ka do nanika ilethu kyusaseru tju kotogamo. Use indu ichibanu taskata. Mosriya nig nan night you kanji de. So hong ano egen to jinjinokyoka shot there, it's good. So then no, but it's take a shot to get uh hunger as you gang at says the hogai point, or no ikets hunger and then a hen katoka zimbu, haginin's de atarashi short it's poinoga detected. Naga but Joe for stuck on a mola say that it's on your postoka. So it's just going out there, my bani.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Hmm I but it's the cara.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Touch can you touch any balance? So not the Mukash Natala, Kiko Sono Do you Shiji or the Soka Nat de Co Prompto Dogka Midana Poto, Kinishita Monde. But I've other shitio skur to kini, no, Zaido Karatscurunoka, Ojukon Zaidio Karatscurno. Didn't they have to put the castle?

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

So so this new basis is a game, Chuck Chad, take him away. Hmm, you mean uh, you know, there, but she was staying at the ski who can't wait in either.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Uh there.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

She's just a green dog. So now it would be highly to negative. So that the imano.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

De so hyamini cha no karimasta, ja no asamo gamba tick as in a to catino. Kiko hayamani Ano kick not tickan, chato GPT rival. So to mojo to Hanaso in a chapter GPT driven.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

So yeah. Scottin eye. Uh, so I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Some of your good ideas are some chat GPT with the conicho out there, you tell me. So, Gorte.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

At Skapter stopped cake, or you know, the common cake for so don't toca. If that's it for the gata to money. So you'd mind scattered.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Yeah, it's told me not to scatter the double there. So this is a couple of cycles, good.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Now, Ichiban Sai show no irigo chili naru, Naga Toyota, Nagatoyota Kikaken Naro in Hans Dewa. So you know, Kittenito, Sokolo was yeah. Ju Ju Soko Ju Sakavana in a command. So she don't think a home kite in the gas.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

So you took a joy total.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Kanga de kigotonita donna kanga mutterkat the kanga Gengokasteok Surikoto nojioseva Naka Pekurima daj masterinat de umund thisune. Naka Suraki. Mukuno Kurokar detekure, systemicatanisote, nakaito shtekeva. Naka, vakukimitoka Nakamukantan shido tokat scrive jaiska. Nosukoni, nan no nanaka netsujo. Naka ondukamatavanottenakte poiti what you no suatum deskito. Naka saishobukum son erikato shitakara, sulega yade ukutelikoto kurika ya rota sterikoto kanga tetoka, muska marinosha do mote tetoka. Nakaso yukoto yapikotobani, sirikoto ya stiukotoa, me chak shijiodanato mote mosne.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Hmm at womon eh.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

So, so n disu eh, nanka at monogatari tikina to kurogata is to you can eh?

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Only takin uh pamuchinong to quina zibunga sale you that tari toka. You not nine year you that telitoka. So you monogatariga do so y monogata yukangga kosh to kuika na tikiasuri. Hmms good depend like the monogatari. Yo mama jibunga not to go diginite.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

So this name is a moshuna monogatari that the sumo.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

So so so so. So Nakara gaso you nan tilona, nanze Yarino Patuka mika. So the AI the shield's good talitukas de Konochana, Sisonojko, Naga Scut the Tarasa, Yomini Yom Hanshia, Tyshkary or Talito. Now me nam my own deniat, you know, squik hans de Nanga. Some handle AI auto put the jacksha hang you're not the gum.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Hmm mm stubborn I got so kunish to soy them kavarina should never get it.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

No king cent to the mirror, this was on the caught tena. Otto, but it wanted to stuck in another Mr. Jug.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

Hmm Hmmanka. So, I'm not sure what you're saying. Oh, what do you must get to the book? Alright.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

So, so the sinkasu.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Not this not this all.

SPEAKER_04 31:34

Yeah, that's what I can get a mate to come.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Now it's got scru to keep it. Yeah, so then that the core design is actually makashata kiosa. Kona Kuro to Koto or Kona Shinka Suruto Motina Gatagasa. Design order that shit onega.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

So then the home page is kick the moral to man? So so robots could be asking it.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

Yeah, they were not called up there.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

Sound that's a bit of a park, eh?

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Hmm. So so you could take on daron eh, eh?

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Pasukondi a shigoto no sagyoga, ma gentoki the other.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Hi.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

I thought they must have been a little bit more.