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Life Divergent
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Life Divergent
EP 7 - Positive Autism Traits
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Hello, welcome. I'm Trina.
SPEAKER_03I am Jason.
SPEAKER_01And this is Life Divergent. In today's episode, we're going to be discussing autism strengths.
SPEAKER_03And there is something very important that I need to make sure everybody knows in advance. You can see my I got distracted because she's just kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty. She wants to play. She's over there because that's where like I have a little mouse thing. This is not the important thing I wanted everybody to know.
SPEAKER_01He wants everyone to know that he has a kitty cat. Her name is Pascal. And I have Boop who likes to show her tail end to the camera.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so this the information here is not meant to be construed as medical advice, diagnostic criteria, anything legal. This is simply us providing our opinions on general interpretations of things we found on the internet that seem to apply. Ish.
SPEAKER_01What he said. Okay. Besides, uh she came running. Yes, she did. Besides Pascal, do you have a friend with you today, or is Pascal your friend?
SPEAKER_03She is my friend.
SPEAKER_01Aww. Hi, baby. Hi, beautiful girl. Aww. Now I feel lame with my friend because you have your live one. Mine ran away. But here's my friend. Her name is Bubbles. And I like Bubbles because she has the same birthday as my dad. My dad, who is no longer living. So bubbles. Bubbles. All right. So we think that people who have autism have certain strengths.
SPEAKER_03Um tells, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Or Rizzle. Um, so we agree that autistic individuals have uh an array of cognitive, creative, and interpersonal strengths that they offer to the world. And sometimes we just have to stop to look to see them. So here we go.
SPEAKER_03Indeed.
SPEAKER_01So pattern recognition is one of the strengths of autistic people.
SPEAKER_03And it's just a natural thing. That is, my understanding, easier to do than a non-autism, if you will.
SPEAKER_01It is said that people who have autism, kitty kitty, um, that they are able to see these patterns, and that can lead to more efficient systems, um, more efficient thought processes, and so on. Because, as you said, it's not something you have to try to do, it's something that you just do.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's easier also to find uh abnormalities, anomalies, spot uh to spot inconsistencies, you know. Uh whenever working in large complex systems, if something comes up that's in error or inaccurate in some way, people on the spectrum might be more inclined to audit whatever part of the system that is to ensure that whatever error was there was the anomaly and not something that's consistent or persistent. So there's that.
SPEAKER_01And a really fun part of that is that um they are able to use their um pattern thinking or seeing, citing. What am I trying to say? I don't know. They're spotting. Um, they're able to use that to break down problems into more solvable components with analytical clarity. They also happen to have exceptional recall of facts and details.
SPEAKER_03Um that's specific, right? Because there are some things that if you ask me, I have no clue what it was. Then there are there are other things, typically pertaining to work. I think I've said before number-based things, where if I used a number a few days ago and then I immediately didn't think about it, and then later you ask me about it or reference it, I'll remember exactly what it was, especially if it's pertinent to a specific thing that I'm doing, because if the thing's interesting, the data that I obtained regarding that sticks, so I can reference it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, I think that when it comes down to um the details that support accurate, thorough work, um, I've been able to recall the facts and the details of that work to explain how I arrived at it, why I arrived at it, maybe not explain it because again, if um there's pattern recognition, I can't always explain why I see that or why I know that. So do you experience something similar with pattern recognition?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_01All right. Now we're moving on to attention to detail, which is another um strength of people with autism.
SPEAKER_03Yes, accuracy is huge. You know, if we're going to do something, we wanted that thing to be done as well as possible. So it could be data entry, it could be creativity, it could be catching errors, it could be building efficiencies to ensure that you get to the right thing as quickly as possible, which would reduce the likelihood of error. You know, the fewer steps you take, less likely an error will pop up as the percentage might be the same for each step. Fewer steps, less involvement by people, for instance, less likelihood for error, greater accuracy. That also ties to the desire or the need to have, as I mentioned a second ago, to do something as well as possible. High quality work is critical. There's this internal sort of commitment to perfection or the nearest possible thing to it. Uh, people don't like unattainable goals. You know, it can be discouraging because it's daunting, it's out of reach. My internal commitment, my standard for excellence is perfection. And that doesn't mean I get there, hey guys, I'm perfect. Thanks for watching. I never attain perfection, but I am always striving for it. And people say, well, it's an unreasonable, it's an unreachable goal, it's unreasonable. It's like, well, that means I'm always building towards something. If you get to a goal, you either have to find a new goal or you have to stop. If I have an impossible goal, I'm always working toward the end. No, sorry, that's the end of my little rant.
SPEAKER_01I um I have this thing, and you know, I hate platitudes, as I've said, and this may come across as a platitude, but it's just something that I've always said, and that is anything worth doing is worth doing well. And that is um, there's a bug. Um anywho, sorry. Um, I honestly believe that that is a part of that. That if I'm gonna do it, it's going to be as good as it can be. I I know that it's kind of hard to judge based on our few um podcasts that we've done because obviously they can do better, but we are learning, and eventually they will be as close to perfect as we can get them. But we're learning, we're growing, and it is my goal to one day have them to be excellent. But um, as I said, anything worth doing is worth doing well.
SPEAKER_03One of the interesting things about this type of industry, you know, putting yourself out there in any form of content creation, it's interpreted that's interpreted by the public in whatever way, is that the needs and wants of society are ever evolving. So, what would work in a video or podcast today, five years from now, might not. And so there has to be that flexibility. So you'll never get to a point where you say, Great, I hit the top, um, and that's it, we're done, guys.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So and I'll see that with like a I'll see that with uh like like video game streamers, for instance, where they'll have this you know, high view count, high subscription count, and then three years later, they have maybe like a third as many views on average, and there's a sort of evolution in mindset, evolution in what people want to see that is perhaps not being followed. Because once you hit the top, you can get complacent, or you're you may not still be on the pulse as much as you thought. But to me, that's always an opportunity to learn and improve and something to build toward.
SPEAKER_01Right. And that comes from I think having high standards, which is another part of attention to detail, and another thing that um people who are autistic seem to have in abundance, they have a commitment to excellence um that raises the bar. Um, for themselves, particularly. Um, I know, like I was just saying about the podcast, I'm always gonna want to do better, I'm always gonna want to do better. Um, am I ever going to be perfect? No, because as Jason says, the evolution of the way that things are done is going to change, move that bar, but at the same time, we're going to be moving that bar for ourselves as well.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay. I suppose with respect to those standards, um, there's this again talking about these internal drives. Um, the idea of building toward high quality, being thorough, comes from, like you said, the idea of do I remember exactly what you said. You do it. Anything worth doing is worth doing well. I knew the word well was in there. Job well done is its own reward.
SPEAKER_01Keep subject. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03That's funny. I like that. Yes. So, job well done is its own reward, that whole thing. There's this the motivation comes from within. God, that sounds so like cliche, like it's a superhero speech or something. Like the real heroes come from within. All right, so no, but uh there people are driven by by these external things. Like uh, what am I trying to say? Or is that later? That's later.
SPEAKER_01No, that's now. Is it okay?
SPEAKER_03No, that's later. No, that's later. We didn't pay attention to that. Speaking of attention to detail, which is the title of this section, didn't even recognize that we're talking about intrinsic motivation here, and it comes up again later in this. Right. That's why I got that so confused. So if we ever do put out the behind-the-scenes videos that we've been making, you'll see that we completely missed that.
SPEAKER_01So completely skipped over it. We're so cool.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, how about creativity? Let's just go there.
SPEAKER_01All right, creativity and original thinking. Yeah, let's talk about this. We only have a couple points on this. So being outside the box.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's the brain works differently, so things are things that make sense to another person might not make sense to people on the spectrum, vice versa. So there are some problems or situations that others might not have an answer for. But you know, someone on the spectrum might just have this novel solution that seems absurdly obvious and they wonder why no one else didn't see it. But that's just because the brain works differently.
SPEAKER_01And everybody else in the in the meantime is saying there's no answer to this problem. But the person who's autistic may just come up with, like he said, something that seems so obvious that no one else was getting.
SPEAKER_03Sorry, I got caught in a an example of this that annoyed me. Anyway. Uh, where are we going? Alright, so um I think I lost my complete train of thought. I just can just gone. I was forever away.
SPEAKER_01That's the ADHD.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay, so working memory. The brain works differently, the memory works differently, the logic, the patterns, everything. If you haven't seen the movie A Beautiful Mind, there's some value of that with respect to these conversations. Just see things that no one else does. And they don't the patterns that that we see, they might not even really be there. Or like just a random chance. But you see a pattern and it makes sense and you follow it, and it doesn't lead you where you think it's supposed to go because it was never really there in the first place. Anyway.
SPEAKER_01Well, I know that um there's this weird thing, okay, that I noticed one day, and it was a pattern, kind of sort of, but not really. But it was like, uh, for me. Um, Jason's name is Jason. Imagine that. Well, um, back in the day, his father and I had a waterbed because that's what people did back in my day. Um, so I was sitting on the edge of the waterbed and the sheets were off because they were being washed, and there's uh there were certain chemicals that you had to put in your waterbed to make sure that the water stayed fresh and so on. And there was a um a month tracker, so to speak, on the um by the plug where you filled the bed up, and so it had an initial for each month, January, February, so it was J F M A. And I glanced down and I'm like, Jason, July, August, September, October, November. Now that's not really a pattern, but for me it was, and probably I probably noticed it because it was familiar. But um, to me, it was like that's just a small example of things that I see that maybe someone else wouldn't see because no one else ever pointed that out to me.
SPEAKER_03I from what I understand from what I've talked to people about, most people don't see that. Like maybe they've seen just calendars written out that way multiple times and it never clicked. But those who haven't seen that before and are listening to this and they're thinking about the months July, August, September, October, November, take the first letter spells Jason. Now you'll never be able to unsee it, and it'll seem like the most obvious thing in the world, right?
SPEAKER_01And again, maybe it's because my son's name was Jason that I saw it. But who knows? There we go. Or maybe I subliminally saw it prior to you being born.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, you didn't have that waterbed prior to me being born.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did you? No. Yeah. Actually, your dad had that waterbed when I met him.
SPEAKER_03And you still have geez, okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So had it for a long time. It was expensive back in the day, waterbeds were. Anywho.
SPEAKER_03All right. Another great another great quality, a great strength, is dedication to truth, clarity. Because it's about data. Accuracy is important. Doesn't matter who looks bad, who looks good, how you come off. Just we want the information to be real. I don't care about opinions, I don't care about hurt feelings, I don't care about me looking bad or being thrown under the bus. As long as the information is real, you can say whatever you want about me. That's fine. Great. Now, that from that is honesty, authenticity. And those qualities come from my interpretation, the need to be like the data-driven aspect of us, to have the world just full of truths. And that is really important. So you know when you're working with someone who's on the spectrum, more often than not, more often than the the non-spectrumers, you're going to have, you know, truth, people who uh you can rely on if they're not gonna stab you in the back, metaphorically, presumably literally, anyway.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, and um as you say, if they say something, you can pretty much take it to heart, and they're going to they'll be at risk for being considered rude sometimes because they tend to be direct, they tend to be honest, and they don't sugarcoat things and necessarily add all the little niceties that people expect when people are saying things. I mean, but you're gonna get honesty, loyalty, and as Jason said, authenticity.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like there's always the need to be clear. People on the spectrum really dislike being misunderstood, but the desire to add clarity can confuse things. Like, especially if you're trying to account for confusion that hasn't occurred, but you could see the potential for confusion, then you're adding unnecessary clarifications. That makes sense.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So I know we're gonna come up with a couple of examples pretty soon about um these this topic that we're talking about right now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I there's something I want to say on this, but it's kind of a digression because it's not necessarily a strength. But it is it's uh from what I've experienced, from what I've heard from other people I know on the spectrum, humor isn't really built in. So it's like we're this we're we're born with as an empty sort of vessel or machine that needs to be given data. We don't just always learn things from observation, like societal rules and standards don't just kind of flow in. We have to be taught them, and even then we don't really know how to apply them all the time. And it's interestingly the same about humor. If something's funny to people and I don't understand it, like I don't see why it's funny, and I don't mean that it shouldn't be funny, I just don't get it, and then someone explains it. For some reason, if that makes sense to me, then I will earnestly find it funny. Not because I think that people expect that of me. It's just now that I understand, it clicks. But you ask the question, why is that funny? It sounds like to some people, you're saying it's not funny and they're wrong for laughing at it.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03Like I don't understand why that's funny. Maybe it's the tone I just said it in, or the the stare at you like you did something wrong. But right there's a lot of confusion that comes from a simple question.
SPEAKER_01So the uh direct communication is important, or you could do the whole masking thing, but we're not talking about that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, and she's gone. There is a technical difficulty on Trina's side. You know, that's so weird. Like hello. We're on different sides. I don't like there. We go.
SPEAKER_00I lost me. I pressed the wrong button.
SPEAKER_03I was saying, oh, there's some technical difficulties on Trina's side, and then I was segueing into it's very weird to refer to your own parent by their name. I've spent most of my life not doing that.
SPEAKER_01You can call me mommy.
SPEAKER_03I don't know if I've ever done that. You are mom.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I know. I was kidding.
SPEAKER_03What's interesting is my niece refers to her mom as mother.
SPEAKER_01Recently, that's her most recent iteration of. It was Mama. And at one point she called her Courtney and Mother and Mama.
SPEAKER_03Nope, there she goes again. Saying the word mother sounds sarcastic. But anyway, off topic digression. We can press on. People who are on the spectrum tend to have a strong moral hi, welcome back. People on the spectrum tend to have a strong moral compass. Um, similar to strong sense of justice that we mentioned in the ADHD strengths. But moral compass is is great because fairness is important. There, there's value in that in ethics and ensuring that everything it's kind of it's it's unfortunate because it's not, from my perspective, really based on the need for intrinsic goodness. Now, yes, I don't like seeing the suffering of others, but also some of it comes from just equal treatment because that makes more sense from a data perspective. Like, I hate to hate to say that, but there is some of that in there. Like, why are you being discriminatory? Yes, that's horrible, but also there's a part of me that says there's not a logical reason for doing so. You know what I mean? Like, there's you just can't ignore the data part of all the thinking if you're on the spectrum. It's just it's there.
SPEAKER_01Um, I hate to do this, but uh where are you?
SPEAKER_03I'm here.
SPEAKER_01Are you on passion and dedication? Um or still honesty, loyalty, and authenticity.
SPEAKER_03I was going to segue into our passion and dedication.
SPEAKER_00Oh, my bad.
SPEAKER_03The last section. But do you have other things to comment on with honesty, loyalty, authenticity? I do not. I do not having internet problems over there.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah, if that's what you want to call them.
SPEAKER_03Is your computer going to explode?
SPEAKER_01No, it's me. Okay. Call me.
SPEAKER_03Well then. The last portion of today is passion and dedication of our fellow Spectromites. I keep coming up with new words, I do not care. Makes me happy.
SPEAKER_01Innovation, brother.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. That is thinking outside the box. That's finding solutions to unsolvable things. Spectromites. That's that's the answer to that question. The question being, what's the dumbest word you can come up with for people who are on the spectrum?
SPEAKER_01So oh my gosh, don't get me started.
SPEAKER_03Okay. All right. Encyclopedic knowledge. I mean, that's honestly self-explanatory. It's just you make it a point to learn as much as you can about a topic. And it's it is a self-driven thing. You just, as I mentioned, I think on the previous video, I saw a video that talked about you know what how the speed of light works and approaching the speed of light affecting time. And I thought that was the most fascinating thing. It was tricky to understand at first, but I did everything I could to learn everything there is to know about it. And yeah, I can have pretty detailed conversations about it because that is just a thing that we do when the topic is important.
SPEAKER_01Yes, when an autistic person has a special interest, it's not just a hobby, it's something that will carry on for a long time. It's not just a blip. Um, and because they're so interested in that interest, um, it's a gateway to mastery. Um, and it gives them purpose and drives them to learn more and more and more. Um, they're driven by genuine curiosity.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and what I was just talking about, uh, some might say, oh, well, so you were hyper-fixating on it. Well, that you you typically see hyperfixation with uh like like projects or certain tasks. This was just a desire to learn as much as I can about a thing. It's something that I sorry, cat me out at me. It's it wasn't one of those situations where I was uh like ignoring eating, ignoring sleeping because I I was hyperfixing thing hyper-fixating on a certain thing. It was something that I I wanted to do every day. I was excited to you know have a break and whatever, so I could watch this new video or read about this new thing. So there's there's that difference when you have this specialized interest that you want to keep expanding on over time versus just banging it out that in that moment.
SPEAKER_01Right. When you hyperfocus, it's temp uh temporary state of intense, just overwhelming um desire to do something, to gain that information or focus on an activity, but it can be fleeting. Whereas a special interest is something that lasts longer and you don't forget to do all your things that you need to to survive, like eating, going to the restroom, showering, and that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_03And one of the one of the challenges of having specialized interest is you want to tell everyone about it. And you're probably going to be around people who aren't interested in it at all, or if they are, certainly not to the level that you are. And all of this excitement and enthusiasm, people are happy for you, they're excited for you, but you just have this energy about it, and everyone needs to know, and you need to tell everyone. And the part of the spectrum is you may not know that they are disinterested, but you also may know and care more about the need to tell them than their desire to leave the conversation, right?
SPEAKER_01Um, excuse me, I think I'm coming down with something because Hartley's been sick. Um, yeah, I mean, the energy that you have when you're um trying to inspire others or educate others, as you said, they might just be looking at you like a deer cotton headlights because they're just not there with you. But you'll just talk about it because you're so passionate about it.
SPEAKER_03You remember a little bit earlier today when we were having the just a conversation about having a conversation. Like you asked me what did I do earlier today? I said, played Golden Ring with a friend of mine, and then we had the example of I didn't go into detail because he didn't ask.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_03The reason why I'm bringing it up now is when I did go into detail, I was kind of excited about it. And I think that I started talking faster then than I had been before because I was like really getting into what I was talking about, right? And then you made it very clear that you weren't interested in that. You hated everything about me for bringing it up, and more than anything in the world that you bothered having the conversation.
SPEAKER_01Listen, that did not happen. That did not happen. In fact, I'm pretty sure I asked you a question. Didn't I?
SPEAKER_03I think you're like pretending to be asleep or being bored because that was the point we were trying to make.
SPEAKER_01I asked you what game that was. Yes, it sounded intriguing, and then you started telling me about a video about avoiding, and we had a good chuckle.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01Why do I hear music? Is that your video?
SPEAKER_03I hear music. There's a train in the background.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's what I heard. Okay. Um, so let's see. I'm scrolling down and looking over our notes here. Um, because I think I had um a story to tell, and I think I missed my opportunity by blinking out and blinking in.
SPEAKER_03Let's revisit what is the story?
SPEAKER_01Okay, this had to do with um literal thinking. Did we talk about that at all?
SPEAKER_03I've already forgotten half of this.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, um, one I think of the um powers of being autistic is that again you see things logically. I don't know where that went to. We missed that somehow, I think. But we see things logically, um, and we deliver information logically. So I was listening to um, I was on a board, a particular board of directors, and they had said that, okay, here's what we're gonna do. On November 3rd is when we have our election for new board members, and the new board members will be in office from the time of election on November 3rd until November 2nd of the next year, and then we'll have our new election on November 3rd of the next year. And I said, wait a minute, you can't have an election of board members when you have no board members to be doing the elections, and they didn't understand what I was talking about, and I'm like, you just said that board members would be in the board on the board until like midnight on the second, right? Yes, right. Okay, then there's nobody on the board from that time until you're suggesting that we have our new elections. So there's no board, there are no board members to hold the elections, and they still kind of didn't get it. Um, I had to like kind of map it out for them to make them understand what I was saying, um, because what they said wasn't logical to me, but they couldn't see, and maybe that was my bad for being too logical, but I didn't understand why they didn't understand and they didn't understand what the heck I was talking about. So that was an example of logical thinking that I think we might have touched on back there. Or we left it out. I have one more thing for logical thinking. Okay, or or um maybe not logical, but um I I don't know what I'm trying to say, but in Michigan, where I live, we recycle um all our bottles, all our cans from sodas and so on and beer, which isn't an issue for me. But um so I went to this place to recycle. And it said on the sign, again, bottles and cans, it said on the sign that you could only recycle up to $25 worth of bottles in a day. So I recycled my bottles and then I did my cans, and I took my bottle receipt up and I took my can receipt up, and she said, You're only allowed to do $25 worth of bottles in a day. And I said, I did, but I also did cans, and she said, No, you're only allowed to do $25 worth in a day. So my literal thinking, it had to be explained to me that I was thinking into it too much, I guess, because I took the sign very literally.
SPEAKER_03So my bottle containers is that a superpower to take things very literally, um, I would consider that a detriment because most of the world doesn't think literally. Like I I my manager has to explain things extremely clearly for me. Because if he doesn't, and then has an expectation, I'll say this was the sentence you gave, and I interpreted it very specifically. Like, oh, here's something. Oh so there was an expectation set. I was supposed to provide my manager something by the end of the day. And then we had kind of an argument because he said he was waiting for a while after five, and he was trying to go home and couldn't because I was the only person who hadn't provided this thing to him. And I said, I got it to you by the end of the day, I don't understand. Now he meant the end of the business day. To me, the end of the day is 11:59. So my perspective was if you ask me to do something and have it done by a certain time, I'll do that. But his expectation was I didn't think I had to say that. Like, I didn't want to be rude about it, but I'm thinking what you so you didn't think you needed to set expectations? Like, management or leadership 101 is set and manage clear expectations. If you say by the end of the day, I'm gonna get it to you by the end of the day. If you say the end of the business day, just say five o'clock, all right? Right. So that's not on me. I did exactly what you asked me to do. It just you didn't ask me to do what you wanted to ask you to do. But that's the difference between very specifically literal and not, because you don't pick up on these things that other people might because they know how to function in society.
SPEAKER_01So I guess it could be strengths, but then again, could be instruments. Me too. I wish the world operated that way. I mean, that gets us into um the whole idea of um grammar, punctuation, that kind of thing, and that's a thing, and that is the thing that we're gonna be talking about in our next episode. I lied, don't look down there.
SPEAKER_03Grammar? We're talking about grammar now, yeah. You changed your mind, okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I did. So next time we're going to be talking about dots and commas, crossing wait, what is it? Dotting your I's and crossing your T's.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I didn't realize people coming here for an English lesson.
SPEAKER_01No, it's just a whole thing that neurodivergent people struggle with, and there are reasons why, and you know, maybe we'll fold it in with something else. Maybe it'll be an episode on its own. But we are trying to do um a couple of episodes that are only about 30 minutes long. Whoops. Um, but yeah, so that is what we're going to be talking about next time. Um, anything else we need to add before we wrap up? Because we kind of went off on a tangent. Thanks to me again, as per usual.
SPEAKER_03I'm all set.
SPEAKER_01Okay, great. Do you mind the change? I'm so sorry, I didn't even ask. That was rude of me.
SPEAKER_03Interesting fact, people on the spectrum generally don't like last second changes to plans because they had not mentally prepared for that.
SPEAKER_01I know that's why I'm apologizing. I'm so sorry, but I thought it was a nice segue to end the episode.
SPEAKER_03Well, we're not doing the episode now, it'll be like a week from now, so that's fine.
SPEAKER_01Right. Okay, great. All right then, I'll say goodbye. Goodbye. Did you have anything to say?
SPEAKER_03There's a funny thing about grammar, like a like a joke I saw in the show 30 Rock, which came out like I don't know, 20 years ago.
SPEAKER_01Okay, do you want to tell it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Tracy Morgan is meeting a bunch of writers for the first time. One of the writers doesn't like Tracy Morgan.
SPEAKER_01So Tracy Tracy Morgan playing Tracy Morgan, or is this real life Tracy Morgan?
SPEAKER_03Tracy Morgan was playing a character named Tracy. Like, I don't think it was like himself himself, but a parody of himself or something.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03So he's introducing himself to the writers on this new show he's gonna be a part of. And he, you know, introduces himself or greets the person who doesn't like him. He's like, hey man, how you doing? And the guy's like, he's like, uh, I'm you know, I'm doing good. And Tracy says, Nah, Superman does good, you doing well. You gotta study your grammar, son. So I like that. So whenever people say I'm doing good, my first thought is, nah, Superman does good.
SPEAKER_01You're doing good, Superman does good, yeah. That's fun. It makes me happy, yes. Um, yeah, all right. Thanks for sharing that. That amused me.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm grateful for that. So okay, I have nothing else to say.
SPEAKER_01Goodbye, except goodbye. Goodbye.
