Found in the Fire
You understand your patterns. You can name them, trace them, explain
them. And you are still running them.
Found in the Fire is a podcast for the woman who has done the work —
the therapy, the journaling, the courses — and is ready to understand
why insight alone has never been enough. Hosted by Erica Adams,
neuroscience coach and somatic practitioner, each episode goes into the
specific, lived moments that shift when healing actually reaches the body.
Somatic practice. EFT. Ancient wisdom. The neuroscience of real change.
And the red velvet cake version of what transformation actually looks like
on a Tuesday morning.
Found in the Fire
What The Dishes Are Actually About
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He left one dish in the sink, and something in her went from zero to a hundred before she had a reason ready. This episode is about why the small thing is never the thing. Your nervous system doesn't read a single moment on its own. It checks it against a running account of every time you asked and it didn't land, every time you carried more and called it fine. The dish gets read as the newest entry, not a bowl. We name the mechanism, why the alarm doesn't check with the part of you that knows better, and what it actually takes to stop keeping the books alone.
What we cover:
The mechanism, without the mysticism. The amygdala runs a fast subcortical pathway that reaches it before the cortex finishes a slower, conscious evaluation. That pathway works by pattern-matching — checking an incoming signal against everything it has previously tagged as a threat — not by assessing the actual size of what's in front of you. This is why the alarm can fire at full volume over a single dish: it isn't responding to the dish, it's responding to the pattern the dish just matched.
What the research actually shows. Intracranial recordings in the human amygdala show a measurable fear response beginning around 45–88ms after a threat-relevant cue appears, well before conscious perception catches up, and this rapid response happens through a route that runs independent of the cortex (Wang, Luo, Chen, Luan, Wang, Wang & Fang, 2023, Journal of Neuroscience). This subcortical route is now well-documented as the reason emotional reactions can precede and outrun conscious appraisal (Tamietto & de Gelder, 2010, Nature Reviews Neuroscience). The felt experience described in the episode — heat rising, chest tightening, vision narrowing — reflects this: the story ("it's about the dishes, the trash, the thing from March") gets assembled after the arousal is already underway, not before.
On letting anger move before regulating: research on animals shows that survival arousal not discharged through movement (shaking, trembling) after a threat passes tends to stay lodged in the nervous system, driving ongoing hyperarousal — the basis for Somatic Experiencing's use of movement to "complete" an interrupted stress response (Levine, 2010, In an Unspoken Voice) This is a different mechanism than classic anger "catharsis" — hitting or yelling at a target, or venting while dwelling on what angered you. A 2024 Ohio State meta-analysis of 154 studies and over 10,000 participants found that arousal-increasing activities (hitting a bag, venting, even jogging) do not reduce anger and often increase it, while arousal-decreasing activities (breathwork, mindfulness) reliably do (Kjærvik & Bushman, 2024, Clinical Psychology Review). The undirected movement described in the episode (not aimed at anyone, followed immediately by slow breath) matches the arousal-decreasing model the research supports, not the venting model it contradicts.
On the belly breathing itself: a single session of slow breathing with an exhale longer than the inhale reliably increases vagal tone (heart-rate variability) and lowers subjective anxiety, in both younger and older adults (Magnon, Dutheil & Vallet, 2021, Scientific Reports).
On the ledger carrying forward across relationships and childhood: consistent with attachment theory's concept of internal working models, which describes how early relational patterns get carried forward and shape how new, unrelated moments get read.
Research referenced in this episode:
- Wang, Y., Luo, L., Chen, G., Luan, G., Wang, X., Wang, Q., & Fang, F. (2023). Rapid processing of invisible fearful faces in the human amygdala. Journal of Neuroscience, 43(8), 1405–1413.
- Tamietto, M., & de Gelder, B. (2010). Neural bases of the non-conscious perception of emotional signals. Nature Reviews Neuroscience, 11(10), 697–709.
- Levine, P. A. (2010). In an Unspoken Voice: How the Body Releases Trauma and Restores Goodness. North Atlantic Books.
- Kjærvik, S. L., & Bushman, B. J. (2024). A meta-analytic review of anger management activities that increase or decrease arousal: What fuels or douses rage? Clinical Psychology Review, 109.
- Magnon, V., Dutheil, F., & Vallet, G. T. (2021). Benefits from one session of deep and slow breathing on vagal tone and anxiety in young and older adults. Scientific Reports, 11, 19267.
Resources mentioned:
- The Inner Circle ($197/month, ongoing 1:1 async coaching) untamedsovereigntycoaching.com
He left a dish in the sink. One dish a cereal bowl with milk gone dry in the bottom, spoon resting in it at an angle, and something in her went from zero to a hundred in under two seconds. Not because of the bowl. She will tell you it was about the bowl. If you let her, she will list the other dishes, the trash that wasn't taken out on Tuesday, the things she asked him twice about in March. But if you watched her face in the half second before any of that language arrived, you would see it happen before she had a reason ready. That is not an overreaction. That is a ledger closing. Welcome back to Found in the Fire. My name is Erica. I'm a neuroscience-based life coach, a somatic healing practitioner, and a folklore scholar. Which is a strange combination until you understand that every culture in human history has had its own version of this work. And my entire adult life has been spent asking why. Last episode I told you that you are not behind. You have been misdirected, working at the wrong layer, using tools built for understanding on a system that runs on something older than understanding. Today I want to show you exactly what that misdirection looks like in a kitchen at 640 on a Tuesday over a single bowl. Because here's the part nobody tells you. She is not counting one bowl. She is reading a ledger. Her nervous system does not evaluate this moment on its own. It can't. It doesn't have that luxury. What it does instead every single time is check the moment against a running account. Every time she asked and it didn't get an actionable response, every time she carried more than her share and called it fine, every time she said something twice because once wasn't enough. The bowl doesn't get read as a bowl, it gets red as the newest entry. And the letter is old. Some of it predates this relationship entirely. Some of it goes back to a house she grew up in, where asking twice and still not being heard taught her something about what she could expect from people who said they loved her. She is not overreacting to the bull. She is underreacting to the ledger because she still doesn't let herself say its real number out loud. There is a part of the brain, the amygdala, whose job is threat detection. It is fast, it is old, and it does not evaluate a signal on its own merits. It matches the signal against pattern. Has something like this hurt before? If the answer is yes, the alarm fires at the size of the pattern, not the size of the dish. That's the mechanism. It responds to the signal, not the source. This is not a flaw in her wiring. It's the wiring working exactly as designed on a threat that isn't the bowl. Same alarm, same volume, wrong target. And if you want to know what that looks like from the inside, it starts before you have a word for it. You see the dish, and before you have registered what you're looking at, before your mind has even formed the sentence, there's a bowl in the sink, something in your chest has already moved, a tightening, a compression, low and dense, like something being wrung. And then it starts to rise. It moves up through the chest and into the throat and keeps going. It becomes heat, it becomes pressure behind the eyes. Some women describe a buzzing, a low ringing in the ears as the system starts to overload. Some describe their vision narrowing, tunneling in on the bowl, the room going slightly red or fuzzy at the edges as every resource in the body is recruited to deal with the thing it has decided is the threat. This is not metaphor, this is physiology. This is your nervous system doing exactly what it was built to do, moving faster than language, faster than thought, faster than your ability to contextualize or reason or remind yourself that it is just a bowl. And here is what I want you to understand about that moment, that threshold between seeing the dish and having a reason ready. The heat is already rising before you know what you are looking at, which means the story you tell yourself afterward, the list of dishes, the trash on Tuesday, the thing you asked about twice in March, that story is not the cause. It is the explanation your mind builds after the alarm has already fired. You are not angry because of the list. You assembled the list because you were already angry. That distinction matters more than almost anything else, I will say in this episode. Now, here's the part that most of the guidance on emotional regulation gets completely wrong. The answer is not to stop the anger from moving. The answer is to let it move all the way through. Before you take a breath, before you try to find your center or choose a measured response or say anything at all to anyone. You let the anger have its moment in your body, because anger that gets cut off mid-movement doesn't disappear. It goes back behind the glass and waits, and it adds an entry to the ledger. So you groan out loud without apology, you stomp your foot on the floor, you shake your body, arms loose like you're trying to get something off of you. You move however that looks for you, because the anger is a physical thing, and it needs a physical exit. And then only then once it has moved through you rather than being swallowed back down, you take three slow belly breaths, not shallow chest breathing, belly, in through the nose, all the way down and out slowly through the mouth until your exhale is longer than your inhale. That is not a technique for managing your emotions. That is the difference between telling an accurate story and telling a story shaped entirely by a nervous system that is still in alarm. You cannot read the ledger clearly from inside the alarm. You can only read it from the other side of the breath. And this is the part that undoes most of what women have been told about their own reactions. She knows intellectually that the bowl itself is not the crime. She could tell you that in a calm moment, in this very episode, nodding along. And yet she will still feel her whole body go to war over a bowl on a Tuesday because the alarm does not check with the part of her that knows things. It fires first and explains itself later, if it explains itself at all. So let me be precise about what I am and am not saying here, because this is the section where two very different women are listening, and I want to speak to both of them. The first woman heard everything I just said about the ledger and the alarm and she felt something loosen in her chest. Finally finally someone is saying that the size of her reaction makes sense, that she is not broken or irrational or difficult, and she is right she is not. But I want to be careful with her because there is a version of this understanding that becomes a different kind of trap. The ledger is real, the anger is accurate, and none of that means the bowl is the right target for it. Accuracy about the source is not the same thing as permission to burn the kitchen down. This is not about blame. It is about reading the math correctly. Your partner may have entries on that ledger that genuinely belong to him. Some of what is in there is his to reckon with, and that conversation may need to happen. But the ledger also has entries from a house you grew up in, from classrooms, from every relationship before this one, from a culture that has been adding to your account since before you had language for it. He did not open that ledger. He inherited a system already in motion. Accuracy means knowing whose debt is whose before you start collecting. Okay. The second woman is still listening, but she went quiet somewhere in section three because she doesn't go outward with it. She goes inward. She felt the heat rise and immediately felt something else behind it. Something that sounds like here I go again, too much, overreacting. Why can't I just let things go? I want to stop and stay here for a moment. If you have been told in any version, in any voice, at any point in your life, that you are too much, that you feel things too intensely, that your reactions are disproportionate, that you need to calm down, that you are being dramatic. I want you to understand something about where that message came from and what it was actually doing. It was not an accurate read of your nervous system. It was a management strategy. Yours was a system that felt things precisely and communicated them clearly, and that was inconvenient for the people and structures around you. So the message came be less, feel less, make it smaller, keep it behind the glass where nobody has to deal with it, including you. And so you learned to cut off the anger min movement, to feel the heat start to rise and immediately turn on yourself for feeling it, to shame the reaction before it could fully arrive. And what that produced was not a calmer woman. It produced a woman with a very long ledger and no safe place to put the entries because she had decided the entries themselves were the problem. But I'm gonna let you in on a secret. They were never the problem. The problem was that she had been handed someone else's discomfort and told it was her own character flaw. This is not damage. I want to say that again because I really mean that. This is not evidence that something went wrong in your wiring or that you are fundamentally too much for the world to hold. This is evidence of a system that has been keeping an accurate account under extraordinarily difficult conditions with no one to help carry the books while simultaneously being told the books themselves were the problem. That is not too much. That is extraordinary precision in an environment that was never built to receive it. Here is what I want you to understand about the shift. It does not happen in the moment, not at first, not while the alarm is still firing and the heat is still moving, and the bowl is still sitting there in the sink demanding to mean something. The shift happens after. After you let the anger move through you, after you stomp your foot on the floor or shook your body or made the sound that needed to come out, after you took the belly breaths and felt your exhale slow and your vision come back to its full width, after you came back into your body and your body came back to you, from that place and only from that place can you open the books. And what you will find when you do is not just one ledger, it is several because she has not been keeping one account. She has been carrying forward balances from previous versions of herself, previous relationships, previous houses, previous versions of what love was supposed to look like and how it was supposed to feel. Each new chapter of her life opened a new ledger, but nobody ever showed her how to close the old ones. So the numbers kept transferring forward quietly, automatically. The way debt accumulates when you stop opening statements. Most women don't know their real numbers because they've been doing the books alone so long across so many iterations of themselves that they have genuinely lost track of where the balance came from. The entry is there, the feeling is accurate, but the origin is buried under years of carried forward balances that she never had the space or safety to reconcile. So when you sit down with the books, really sit down with them. The first thing you are doing is not solving anything. You are reading. You are going back through the ledgers not to assign blame or build a case, but to see clearly and to ask honestly which of these entries belong to this relationship, to this partner, to this specific dynamic between the two of you right now, and which of them arrived here already written, carried in from somewhere he has never been and could not have put there. The distinction is not small, it's everything, because the conversation you need to have about the entries that belong to him is a completely different conversation than the work you need to do with the entries that belong to you, conflating them, bringing all of it to the kitchen table on a Tuesday night as though it is all his to answer for. That is how a conversation about dishes becomes something neither of you can find your way back from. Some of what is on your ledger is a five-minute conversation. It is a specific thing, a pattern in this relationship, this version of you with this particular person. And it has a name and it has a solution, and the two of you can find it together if you can get to it without the full weight of every previous ledger landing on top of it. And some of what is on your ledger is not his to carry at all. Some of it is older than he is. Some of it is the inner child who learned in a house that had nothing to do with him, that asking twice and still not being heard was simply what she could expect from the people who said they loved her. Some of it is a version of her from ten years ago carrying a balance forward from a relationship that ended, but she never fully closed out because closing it out would have meant sitting with it, and sitting with it felt like too much to do alone. That work is yours, not as punishment, not as evidence that you are the problem, but as the most loving thing you can do for every future version of yourself who is going to stand in a kitchen and see a bowl in a sink and feel something rise in her chest before she has a reason ready. Because here's what changes when you do the real accounting. When you go back through the letters, all of them, and you see the pattern across iterations, across relationships, across the different women you have been, you stop being surprised by the alarm. You start to recognize it. You start to be able to stand in the kitchen and feel the heat begin to rise and know with a kind of calm clarity that you did not have before whether this is today's problem or an old one wearing today's face. And that distinction, being able to tell the difference between what is alive right now and what is a system pattern that is going to need more intentional work. That is what makes the conversation with the person who left the bowl in the sink actually possible. Not easy necessarily, but possible. Because you are no longer asking him to answer for every ledger. You are asking him to answer for his. The dish gets easier to talk about when you are only talking about the dish. If this landed somewhere in your body while I was talking, I want you to know there's a place to keep going with it. The inner circle is ongoing one-to-one support. At $197 a month, each month you receive a personalized practice bundle built around where you actually are. Not a template, not a library of things to choose from, a new moon ritual practice calibrated to that specific lunar cycle, async check-ins Monday through Thursday, one thread at a time. So there's always somewhere to put what's moving without starting from scratch each time. Seasonal guides aligned to the wheel of the year, and the full USC audio library. It is not crisis support, but it is continuity. Someone tracking where you were last month, what's shifted, what's emerging, and building your practice to reflect that. The link is in the show notes. The dish gets washed either way. But I want to leave you with something to carry into the rest of your week. Not a task, not an instruction, just a question. What's the real number in your ledger? Not the one you'd say out loud at dinner, the one you've been keeping privately, accurately, for longer than you'd like to admit. You don't have to answer it today. I think you already know it. Until next day, I'll see you in the fire.