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Be Consistently Good, Not Occasionally Great | DALEX Podcast Ep. 11
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Consistency Beats Motivation: Building a Life That Lasts
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What happens when you stop waiting for motivation and simply make the right behaviours part of who you are?
This week, Dan and Alex discuss consistency, discipline, fitness, food, failure, ambitious goals and why lasting change comes from building habits rather than chasing shortcuts.
From recovering after a bad day to asking successful people more questions, taking risks and learning to enjoy the process, Episode 11 is about becoming the person you're trying to become — one repeated decision at a time.
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Welcome everyone back to the Daleks podcast episode eleven. We're past ten.
SPEAKER_01Look at that. Now we're going to next next uh ten, which is training now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah yeah, it'll be a hundred before we know it. Uh we're here off the back of our hotel team having its greatest win in its club's history.
SPEAKER_01That actually might be the best win I've ever I've actually ever seen. Like in my life supporting the club. I think we're talking about it a little bit off air. That was probably the most unlike Carlton win ever. Because like, for the first time in what feels like ever, four quarters of complete football, just what a masterpiece that was. What a what an absolute demolition from from the blues. And mate, shout out Josh Fasher. Shout out Josh. He actually might be the greatest coach of all time.
SPEAKER_00The goat.
SPEAKER_01The goat. Yeah, the actual goat.
SPEAKER_00The goat. And I suppose that like leads on the first subject this week. Like in belief. And like uh you've heard like our football club, we've talked about being brave, bold, yeah. And we've been big, me and Alex, uh, about like stop talking about it, doing it. And amazing, like, once you break through belief and everything becomes consistent, like how easy things can be, in it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like you literally touch on a word there, consistent. Like, I'm a big believer, just be consistent, be consistently good instead of like occasionally great. You know what I mean? So like the way clip that. Yeah, clip that. The way like Josh Frazier is like coaching his boys, like you can just tell he's A, he's embracing all their personalities, their characters, you know, letting them shine through their celebrations, through the way they play, and just like systematically as well, it's something that probably we haven't had in a long time. Is this a system that the coach obviously believes in and that the players believe in, like a total buy-in from everyone. And I think that goes in like every sport, you know, whether that be you know, you know, footy, soccer, basketball, even athletics, like running, swimming, all that type of stuff. If you have a total buy-in and what you want to do, what your process is, then the process and the outcome will be positive.
SPEAKER_00You know, when I was younger, when I was like 16, uh, we had a golf coach for North of England. He used to say that uh failure is believing in greatness. Yeah. Greatness is submitting to greatness. And it's something that like at first I was like, what the fuck you want about? But I I I do think that's true. Like what you said there, that when you believe in something, if you believe by definition you don't think it's true, you hope for it. Where submitting to greatness is you just kind of like accept you are great. And like I remember him telling us that like stop thinking about doing it and start behaving like you've already completed it, yeah. Which, like, psychologically it sounds so weird, but it makes sense that if you hold something in your mind that is so unattainable, you've made it almost hard to do. Where if you change your brain to thinking, okay, this impossible task is my destiny, yeah. So start behaving like you've already achieved it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So it suddenly becomes normal, and I think that's great to what you said there, where it's like be consistent instead of occasionally great.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_00If you are great, yeah, that is your consistency.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 100%. Like, it's that benchmark, I guess. Like we all have like a benchmark of what we know what we're capable of. Like, it's just about trying to outdo yourself like every week. So if you know your let's say you're a key forward in the footy, for example, and you know your benchmark is like four goals a game, if that's your average, then every week, make try to hit that, but try to go above and beyond that. Like, always try to keep, you know, have like winning behaviors as well. And I think like the more you talk about trying to be brave and trying to take the game on, like, don't talk about just go go out and do it and you know, have that behavior and have that mentality of don't give a shit who's in front of like in front of us. We're gonna go out and do what we need to do because that's what we are.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was speaking to a mate, shout out Steve who loves you. Uh by the way, shout out Steve. Steve now is the second fittest person I know, but mate of mine in the UK who is like a personal trainer, and he was actually saying something to me like last week when we were chatting. He was like, he hates the phrase diet, yeah, yeah. Because he was like, if you view weight loss like what I'm doing at the minute, he was like, as a diet, he was like, your brain is subconsciously teaching itself that eventually we come off the diet and we go back to normal. And he was like, and that's when you'll put weight on. Yeah. He was like, I prefer to call it meal plan. Yeah. Because he was like, what happens is he said, eventually you'll hit your desired weight, and all that changes, the same foods applies, we'll just up your calories to a sustainable level. But he was like, if you think, oh, this food is diet food, you're training your body that okay, I'm having a rice bowl today, but when I'm at 80 kgs, I'm gonna have KFC. And he was like, and you're teaching your brain like this is not normal. Yeah, he was like, Where the diet, he said, it's a meal plan, this is your life, like this is how you live. Yeah, he was like, so he hates like diet, he hates weight loss, like gym sessions, like he was like, cardio does his head in, yeah, because he was like, People view it as weight loss, yeah. But he was like, when you're fit, cardio stays. Like he was like losing. Yeah, like he was saying, if you fucking hate cardio now, he was like, get used to it because you'll need to do it. He said, even when you are healthy, yeah, he was like, it doesn't go. Like he was like, it's like he said, if you have a six-pack tomorrow, pond, yeah, you're not banned from cardio, you're doing cardio, like yeah, you're not, yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_01Like, especially like with like the meal plan and stuff, like I got a meal plan, and like literally, you you don't view it, you just view it as like a necessity to everyday life, just to like go about and like cardio as well, like no matter how what your rate is and stuff like that, I guarantee you like cardio is like the most important thing. And it's really funny, so like when when you lose all the when you go to your desired rate, like what do you do after that? Do you just go back to normal or do you just go back to what the way you were? I think that goes back to the like sport conversation, like with footy teams and stuff. Like, after you win a flag, yeah, what do you do next? You know, you you've done the ultimate, you've won the thing, you've gone out, you've spent how many years chasing this one goal. When you do it, it's like, okay, cool. Well, what do we do now? Do we just go back to the our old habits and rebuild, or do we go for another one? Go for another one. Build those habits, build those behaviours as a winner, and you'll just a good thing for like life.
SPEAKER_00If you look at like AFL, like football is weird because it's like we have like it's just accepted that you win a flag, yeah, then eventually you'll hit rock bottom and you'll rebuild to a flag. Yeah, no one ever talks about can you win a flag and then stay at that level for 10 years, 20 years, and like Geelong are probably the closest we've got who are they've never really hit rock bottom, but it is like a belief. Like I hear it about Collingwood all the time, oh, they've got to hit the cliff, so they win the flag again, but that's not really true because life doesn't need to be that way, yeah. Like, and it's the same, and like when I was talking to my mate Steve, he was like the amount of people who hears go to like dietitians, and he was like, they cut their weight and they say this is your diet, and you'll get to 80. But he was like, then they come back heavier than they ever were, yeah. Because he was like, they've trained their brain, this is a temporary fix for a long-term solution. Where he was like, When they come to me, I just say to them, Look, this is your meal plan, yeah, and this is your meal plan every day for the rest of their life. It's the way it is. Yeah, and he was like, with the exception of I'll probably add 500 calories to it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So he was like all that changes. Yeah, and he was like, that's why he hates people who have diets where they're like, oh, I won't go to Macca's.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because he was like, You've got to make it so people lose weight but enjoy their life. He was like, if you suddenly like he was talking about, he he was talking about Jenny Craig for women, and he was like, That's massive with females. And he was like, they literally starve themselves to get into shape. Yeah. But he was like, they're not teaching them that you can get into shape without starving yourself and stay in shape, enjoying food. Yeah. He was like, people are teaching you that unhealthy obsession with food is bad when food is good.
SPEAKER_01I think they caught like the if I'm not gonna say like the 80-20 report, so it's like 8% of the time it's like all healthy and stuff like that, but then you've got like 20% where you know, if you want to go with your mates or if you want to have a drink or whatever, have a bit of a uh like celebration, for example, whatever, you know, you can allow yourself to enjoy those moments, uh, which is important because like obviously, you know, like with life, is you want to be able to, you know, enjoy both sides. Like obviously, you know, as long as you're hitting all your macros and stuff like that, with the meal plan and obviously there's room for a little bit of like a cheeky dessert or cheeky macca's every now and then.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, I agree, and it was like speaking to Steve, he was like, he always laughs because he was like, People forget, like if you watch his Instagram, he was like, I go out every Friday to have beers with my mates and my soccer team. Yeah, he was like, but I'm in shape. So he was like, a lot of people who are unhealthy forget you can still have fun. So he was like, people sell you this dream that you've got to be sacrificed and miserable and eat lettuce and go to the gym eight times a day, never eat food. He was like, where in reality there is a world where you just have a he called it relationships with food. Yeah, like a better relationship with food. He was like that you view food as a fuel but also fun. Um he he he used the beer analogy with me. He was like, everyone likes a beer, but he was like, you don't drink it all the time. So he was like, you'll have water most of every day. Yeah, he was like, you'll have a cup of tea. Yeah. So he was like, that's how people need to view food. That let's say your cup of tea is your rice bowl. Yeah, right. And then he was like, let's say your water is your vegetables. Yeah, he was like, your beer is your McDonald's. He was like, You're not gonna do it every day, but he was like, Friday, finished work, gonna treat myself. If I like a McDonald's, I'm gonna have a beer. Oh, I'm gonna have a McDonald's. He was like, people view it as like it's this mythical thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It is pretty fun. Like, I'm a bit guilty of that to be honest, because like sometimes I notice myself, like after like a big training week or training day, like I'll probably try still like eat like a certain amount of calories, but probably I need to have a little bit more, something like that. And you know, I'm not a really big fan of like takeaways, so instead of like having a takeaway, like I was going out this week though, like my mates were going to grilled, which is absolutely grilled. Lost from grilled, but like it just like those little moments like knowing like okay, if you train this hard and stuff like that, maybe you know, you do need to make sure you're eating enough so you don't crash, and you know, there's so many other stuff, like because you just touched on it there, people like be so strict on it, or and then they wonder why, oh, why's my physique like not changing? Why why's my body not changing? Well, maybe because you know, if you're not hitting enough protein, if you're not hitting enough carbs, if you're not hitting enough like fats, your body's never gonna really change, it's gonna look flat, it's gonna look you know a bit you know, misproportioned almost as well. So when when you look at these like big elite athletes, and I think we're having this kind of conversation like with Bailey Smith, like you look at his body, mate, absolute sculpted, and then you think, oh, but this guy like be having kebabs at like 3am, you know what I mean? But it it's like a normal part of you know life. Sometimes you just need them, you know, yeah. Allow yourself to enjoy those moments.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I I think that goes like with life as well. Like I think everyone has like probably an unhealthy relationship with life as well. Because like I was chatting to Steve, and he was like saying he hates daily calorie targets, yeah, because he was like from a physiologically point of view, he was like, you better look at it as a weekly calorie target. Yeah, that's how he was like, that's how he believes to teach people. Because he was like that way, he said, if you look at your weekly calories and your weekly macros, he was like, if you don't look at it in the short term, you can actually said you can have a kebab.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because he was like, and he was like, because he said he he one of the things he said he hates in life is hearing this, or tonight I'll go out and have a few beers, yeah, but tomorrow I'm gonna miss lunch and do an extra training session. Yeah, and he was like, that is so unsustainable. Nah, yeah. Where he was like, if you actually said he said, let's say it was 20,000 calories a week, you were allowed. He was like, the kebab's a thousand. Yeah. So he was like, if you knock a thousand calories and say every meal's got to be 200, he was like, that's 800 calories you've got to remove from seven days. Yeah. So he was like, that's a snack Monday. He was like, that's Tuesday, not having potatoes with your chicken, yeah, and just going with the veggies. He was like, if you actually stagger it through the week, I think it's a better way of looking at it. Yeah, it was like legally, he was like, you can have a kebab and lose weight.
SPEAKER_01It is a better way of looking at it, like from a like from like a big bird's eye view of it, like look at your whole week and look how much. The way I kind of work out how much I should be eating is like how much am I losing like in a day. Like what do I need to eat to some because like I'm not a really I can't really eat that much. Like personally, like I just my body doesn't feel right if I eat like 3,000 plus calories. So I I eat about like 2800, 2900 is probably my max. And like I'm like losing so much during the week that I need to make sure like I'm eating close to that, otherwise I'm I'm gonna crash, I'm gonna feel flat. So 100% like look at it from like a weekly point of view, work out kind of you know, another week and work it out, just work out your maintenance calories and then you know, eat you know, Monday if you want, you know, Monday to Friday, locked in, and then Saturday, you know, treat yourself a little bit, and then Sunday, just go back to normal. Don't like say, Oh, you know, I had those chips, so maybe I should skip out on lunch and dinner and just like just work out for six hours. It doesn't work like that, it doesn't need to be like that. Just go back to normal, go back to your normal meal plan and mate, you'll be fine.
SPEAKER_00And he got me thinking like about life. I think a lot of times in life we live like that, like we do something wrong, and then we feel like the next couple of days, couple of weeks, we've got to punish ourselves. Yeah, you feel like you need to get back to normal, yeah. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Where like just when I was chatting to Steve about food, like he was like, like, he was like, people fuck up.
SPEAKER_01Like is what it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like he was huge on this, like he was saying, like, from his like working with people, he was like the amount of people that skip a training session with him, and then he gets to the bottom of it, and it's like they've made a mistake, they've had maybe like he said, they've gone out, something's happened, they've gone home, and he said eating a whole chocolate cake. Yeah, and he was like, instead of like thinking about it rationally, okay, I fucked up, yeah, but it's not big, man, because he was like, like he always he said to me, food as bad as it can be for you isn't that bad. Because he was like, it would be illegal. Yeah, he was like, everything's legalized. He was like, they'll skip, and he says, I won't see them at the gym for two weeks. Because he was like, they'll go home and get these mean goats, and he was like, which then they'll put weight on because they've not gone to the gym, yeah. They fuck the diet up because they've made one mistake, and he was like, Then they come to me and he says the 5 kg is heavier than they left. Yeah, now even more depressed. And he says, when I break it down, it's like if you just rang me that day and said, Oh Steve, I had three bits of chocolate cake and I had a real bad day. He was like, My answer would be, who gives a fuck? I'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, literally. He was like, like, if if your body wants that, even if it's a psychological thing, have it. Yeah. Because he was like, we can fix it later. Yeah, he was like, the biggest mistake is people go quiet, eat their feelings, get guilty, stop going to the gym, and then they're even worse than they were and all the work is gone.
SPEAKER_01I call it I call it like a domino effect. So, like, let's say on Monday you, you know, you couldn't train, for example, for whatever reason you miss out on your gym session. That will turn from missing one gym session into oh, you know, I missed my gym session, so I may as well just eat this, or I ate that, I may as well just call it a cheat day, and then that'll roll into Tuesday, and then that'll roll into Wednesday. It's like a domino effect. So this just goes, let's say, for example, I usually use this like analogy. Like, you know, when you get a glass and you you know have some water and you pour some water in there. Let's say like you miss a little bit and you put on the table. Do you just like say screw it? Let's just pour the whole water onto the table. No, you just like oh okay, we'll clean that up and just go back to normal, put in the put in the cup. Same thing goes with like training and food and stuff like that. Just because you stuff up once doesn't mean oh, screw it, we'll just hit the hit the all-in button and just go all out crazy. Relax a little bit. You stuffed up, it's what it is, it's life. You know, we're we're all guilty of it. Just because you had that chocolate cake, for example, it's it's all good. Just get back to normal tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you know what? We're going to go and see the new star um Spider-Man movie this weekend, me and my boys out. Yeah, and we were actually using Spider-Man in life. That I think it's a good analogy that if you look at Spider-Man Peter Parker, when he first becomes Spider-Man, right? I was like, I was teaching my son, there is like how mistakes can be good things. I was like, at first, you think about it, he's worked out, he's got all these skills. Yeah, I was like, his first instinct is to be good, yeah. Right. So I was like, there's the first test. Yeah, I was like, think about it. You can ab sell off walls, you can stick to walls, you've got spider senses. Yeah, the first thought is to save other people, not yourself. And I was like, like, how many people would do that? Like, you could rob a bank easy, yeah, you could pick pocket from miles away, no one would know. Yeah, but I was like, you watch that whole training where he learns to control his powers, and how many times he fucks up, like he falls off building, he he works out, he can't disconnect the web, so he can't fall. Like, you think so many opportunities Spider-Man could go, you know what, fuck this, I'll just be good at basketball with my powers. He continues it, and then he gets beaten up. And I was saying to Dave, that is kind of like life. Life will have areas where you really do fuck up. But if you've got the end goal, Spider-Man didn't stop being Spider-Man when he failed. Yeah, it made him more of a Spider-Man. 100%. And I think that's the same in life with food, with diet. Live like you are Spider-Man. Like he doesn't need the mask to be Spider-Man.
SPEAKER_01You learn, yeah, you learn every day. Um, yeah, it's like the saying, like you learn something new every day. Like literally, you know, just be if you like you stuff up like if you're a diet, for example. I just the way I kind of like the way I've been taught, like with um with like my studies and stuff, is like you the main reason why people usually stuff up is because they get so restrictive on it. So their bodies like get really like they crave whatever the restrictions. Like, let's say it's like Tim TAMS, for example, your body's gonna be really craving those Tim Tams. Whereas you don't, if you don't restrict it and you don't really think about it, your body's actually like not gonna crave it as much. And it's been proven like with like studies and stuff like that. So if you just don't be as restrictive, you'll be fine. And if if you do, as I say, if you do stuff up, just learn from it, understand maybe why you know you had that food or had whatever you had, or whatever the case may be, and just as I say, get back on track and you'll be you'll be all good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it's something like like Steve was telling me about like he that's one of the questions he asks when he makes a meal plan. Yeah, what's the one food that if I took away from you now, you'd be pissed off with?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you'd be like obsessing over.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and he was like, it's usually he says it's usually something that's not even that bad. Yeah, like he was saying, like most people will say it's a chocolate bar that they have at lunch, yeah. And he was like, the chocolate bar calories are really low. It's actually, yeah, not that bad. Yeah, like so he was like, I will deliberately build that into their thing. Yeah, so say, look, you said you like a Mars bar, three o'clock while you're in before you finish work, yeah, to tell you over the last two days. He was like, Here you are, it's here, yeah. So he was like, like, what's because he was like literally, he was like, when people look at goals, and it's I think it's really good for anything in life. He was like, they look at the end goal and they treat it like it is like something we're not. Yeah, so it almost becomes unattainable because they're already saying, That's who I'm going to be. He was like, Where it's really a minuscule change that if you start living it today as if you're him, it's very easy to do that. And that's what he was saying with weight loss. He was like, Everyone always comes to the gym and goes, I'm fat, I'm overweight. They say it all the time. But he's like, Everyone in this building would be overweight if they'd done what you'd done. Yeah, so you're all the same. Like he was like, they've just made the changes that you you've already made. So he was like, they're the end product of doing this for 10 years. 100%, you'll be there in 10 years. 100%. And he was like, That's a big thing, like just in life. Like, don't make yourself different if you've made the mental decision. Start living like you've already completed it.
SPEAKER_01100%. And you're gonna, and honestly, as you as you're going through the process, you're gonna start really enjoying it. Like you'll start like now. I actually just literally crave like my mince bowls, you know. I mean, for example, you you start craving the process that gets you there because you like you start learning how good it is for you, you start feeling so much better. And it's like, oh, you know what? I'm feeling incredible. Like, I s you start loving training more. Like when you first start out, it's probably a bit harder to get really into it and like really learn how to enjoy it because like it feels like it almost feels like a chore at first, but the more you go about it and the more you go into it, it's like you know what. I'm enjoying this. This is this is fun.
SPEAKER_00You know what though? Everything in life's habits, whether it's like being successful at business, whether it's been successful at sport, whether it's been successful in the gym, eating, whatever. Everything is like really, if you break it down, it's a habit, isn't it? Like it's a habit. It's just the way you are. Yeah. So like we've all got mates who are like really successful in business, but when you actually break down what they do, it's not really that complicated. They just they just do a process that's different to the guy who sat at home playing Fortnite in his underpants. Like it all it is really is a choice that they've just repeated so often it's become habit and it's become consistent.
SPEAKER_01It's just like building, like building like daily habits. Like I used to have this like a thing on TikTok like stacking daily wins. So every day, like you just stack the wins, like any chance you get to stack the wins, whether that be just waking up early, you know, getting a training session in, just eating the right foods, just building those daily habits and building those daily wins. And then if you build, if you do that for like six months, you're gonna see six months' worth of progress, you know what I mean? So it's just about starting, start out small, and then as you said, like building those like everything is habit and everything is just process driven. If you just fix your process and like you really make you know, training a habit and you make this a habit, make make life build good habits, you're good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm coaching someone at the minute who's like he's 14 and he wants to go pro. Yeah, and it was something that we were having this conversation only last week where I was like, if you look at the top players, they train as much as you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So like I was like, when you're saying to me you want to be Scott, Adam Scott, you want to be Aaron Badley, famous Australian golfers. I was like, they train identically to you. Yeah, like the only difference is people know who the fuck they are and they don't you. Yeah, so but I was like, you are already there, all you've got to do is continue on this path and keep doing it. Yeah, 100%. I was like, there's no like I need to train harder. There's no, I was like, all you need to do is keep building these perfect habits. And to say what you said, it's like stacking it. I was like, it's the credits in the bank that you are building now. That when you are 18 and your body is fully developed, we've got four, five, six years of this. It's gonna be ingrained in you, yeah, 100%. So, like, and I was trying to say to him, there is no shortcut though. Like the shortcut is if we compare you to these, you probably train harder, yeah, more, yeah, which is good. So I was like, eventually it will pay back, but the payoff isn't now, the payoff is down the track, so that's why it can be disheartening. Like he was disheartened, like, oh, I want to be there. And I was like, Well, enjoy the journey first.
SPEAKER_01You have to learn how to enjoy the journey because like as you said, there is no shortcut to it, like there's no shortcut into being, you know, a great there's no there's no shortcut there. All you got is a blueprint of how to get there, you know. I mean, like in the gym space, especially, like everyone thinks it's you know, now that you got so many different little things, like you got peptides, you got red eye, you got this, you got that, they can just like go on and overnight, you know, you're gonna you know what is crazy because because this is your fault, this because I Google so much, but like my whole algorithm is filled with like these pills, and like oh, this is illegal in America, but it's like the modern day Azempic.
SPEAKER_00Like the amount of like I was just thinking the other day, if I didn't have you and like my mates who are helping me, it would probably be the shortcut. I'd be like, Oh well, they're saying I can save a month, a hundred six months, three months, yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, you you save yourself a year going on it because like you literally you take it within like a month, you're like where you want to be in a year's time, you'll already be there in a month. So you know, in like psychologically, why wouldn't you take it? Like if it's easy, but then you look at all the side effects from it, it's like oh well I mean it's not worth it.
SPEAKER_00And but but I mean it was like like I also think like to what Steve told me, he was like, let's just say there was a tablet that could give me your physique. Yeah, I haven't learnt how to keep it though.
SPEAKER_01100 like that's where the that's where the process comes from.
SPEAKER_00So, what's the plan? Like, if I just take this, pay five hundred dollars today, yeah, and then I get fat again, and I just have another month where I pay 500 and I'll be like, wouldn't it be better to teach someone the right process? So once you've got it, you keep it and you know how to control it.
SPEAKER_01100%, 100%, because once you learn how to do it, it becomes so easy. Like you literally look back and it's like this whole this whole thing is easy ass because you've gone through it, you started started from the bottom and then you built yourself up to the top. So you've gone through the whole process, you've built your habits, you know what works, you know obviously what doesn't work. So when you finally get to that end goal, it's like okay, now now I know what I'm doing. Now I know how to sustain it, and now I know how to keep it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and when I was talking to him, it made me think of like you and me and how like the conversations we have because he was like, one of the big things, because I asked him, What's the difference between like your top 10% fitness guys at your gym? Yeah, and like the average guy that walks in, and he was like, It's asking questions. He was like, like he says, like the the the normal guy or girl will come in trying to lose weight, and they're almost intimidated, he said, by like the guys with the six pack or the girls with the six pack, yeah. And he was like, they're intimidated to ask, where he was like, You actually go and hang around with the top one percent. Yeah, they're sharing tips, they're like, Oh, I saw you do this, like, how did you do that? Like, can you help me with this? And he was like, That annoys him because he was like, They would love to help a guy start it. He was like, They will be honoured if a guy said, Look, my PT's told me to do this exercise, can you just help me with my farm? Yeah, he was like, They'll be like, Oh yeah, man, like 100%. Like, this is cool, you're learning. And he was like, And it's infectious, and he was like, It's something he tries to tell them in the gym. Like, go and ask the guy or the girl that you want to get the physique with.
SPEAKER_01That's where like gym culture really becomes like a really big thing. Like, so so often you go to like a gym, and you know, it's like you have like two sides of the room. You got the side where it's like all the people like starting out and trying to begin their fitness journey, and then you got the other side of everyone that's been doing it now for like years on years, and no idea's announced what the do's or don'ts. It's like it's almost like it's separated, like just join, link up and help each other. Like I I guarantee you, those guys have been doing it for ages, they want to help you out. Just go up and ask them. There's no need to be intimidated, they were in your shoes not that long ago as well. Just all this is the way I think of it. Like, not too long ago, they were the ones that will try to come up to those guys, you know what I mean? Like, just go up, ask them a question, ask them about form, ask them about you know, well, what should I do here? What should I do this? How should I get that? They'll guarantee you they'll answer your questions. They want you to ask them, trust me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's funny because like like I uh whenever I'm out playing golf, yeah, people rarely like my mates are the worst for this. They don't ask for my advice because they think, oh, well, he charges for it. So and I always say to them, like, man, look, I I am the worst person. If I go and practice myself, I did it the other day. I saw an old guy struggling, yeah, and I just happened to go up to him and go, like, mate, if you change your grip to this, think it'll really help. And then like he was picking my brains and he was like, Oh, can I have your number to get a lesson? And I was like, No, no, man, look, I'm happy to teach you. Because I was like, Yeah, like it I don't need paying. Like, I want to share my love of the game with someone else. There's nothing better. And I think that's the same with like anyone in the world. Like, if you're good at doing something, you're never upset if someone asks you, How did you do it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like you, it's almost like you want to get asked that question, like, oh, it's kind of your way to show off, yeah. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Like, help help the next person to get to where you want to get to. It's like almost like a compliment if someone comes up to you and asks you, mate, how are you doing this? Like it's a genuine compliment.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think that's probably the way people forget to learn. Like, the best way to learn, I think, is probably from someone that's done it. Yeah, because like you say, like the amount of people, like it's funny in golf, particularly, I think people forget that we started being shit. Like, at the minute, I'm helping my little one do it, and it's like I said to him, I was you once, like, don't think I came out of my mum and just could play golf. Like, yeah, yeah. I said to him, I was like, I was like you, but I I had my my dad teach me, yeah, and I couldn't do it, and then sometimes I'd do it and I didn't quite know what was going on, but I was like, eventually, you know, and I was like, but like, don't think it's unattainable.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I was like, it's easy if you keep doing it. Nothing's unachievable. All you just gotta do is just put in the work, put in putting the hours, and you you definitely see the results, like nothing, nothing is unachievable.
SPEAKER_00And it was like I was watching actually the kids the other day, that Zayn's playing Fortnite a bit, and like one of his mates is really good, yeah, and like he asked the best question ever, how do you do this? And like his mate was like so excited to tell him how to do it, yeah. And I was like, that is just proof, like what we're talking about. That he he Zane just didn't bother asking, yeah, like because he asked me, and I'm like, I don't fucking know, mate. Like, I was like, I'm an old man, I have like shooting is about it, and like he asked his friend, and like his friend like spent like 10 minutes going, I'll tell you what, we'll do a one we've on, and I'll teach you, and like you can do it on me and learn the skill. And I'm like, this is how life should be. Like, yeah, ask the question from somebody who knows how to do something, and don't be shy of asking the question, yeah. Because like I said to him, you could be jealous, yeah, and I was like, and get envious and get upset. But nine times out of ten, you ask someone who's better than you at something, they teach you because no one cares, yeah.
SPEAKER_01100%. Like, I guarantee you, like, if if we went down to Noble and like there's a like Charlie Cono's just chilling, kicking the footy, and like we pretend to start kicking the footy or whatever. I guarantee you he'll he'll might come up to maybe maybe not. He might come up to us and be like, oh, you want some help? I can help you out. Or if we go up to him and hey Charlie, can you just like teach me how to kick your footy?
SPEAKER_00100% because like I mean at the end of the day, like knowledge is power, but like it needs to be shared, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_01100%. Like, you can't keep it all to you like to yourself, can you? Like, what's the point of knowing knowing what you know and learning what you know if you can't help the next person out who wants to get to maybe the spot you want to get to or anything like that.
SPEAKER_00You know what? When I first became a golf pro, one of my things that I learned was walking around the practice ground and giving people free advice purely because it made people get lessons. Yeah. Like it was like a good way to break the ice and like do it and give someone some help.
SPEAKER_01I see people do that in like the gym, like the PTs. They literally just go around and people are like, Oh, you want some help with this it? Or by the way, I have a PT.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, to be fair, it's a good way to do it because like nine 90% of people don't ask. Like a good mate of mine, um Greg, right in the UK, shout out Greg Ellis Real Estate, but he is a real estate agent, and he when we were when we were working in the UK, he came and did a course because like he was like a millionaire at like 30. Yeah, but he was saying the biggest people in his company, the best sellers, what separates them from the normal guys was like the best ones asked a lot more questions than answered questions. So he was like, they were like infectious. How did you do this? How did you find this? How did you get this price? What did you do when this happened? And he was like, and that was what separates, like he said, the rich from the poor in his company. He was like that. The guys that really want it are desperate to learn off the guys, and they don't look at them as like a rival, they look at them more like, I want you to get me to where you are so we can do it together. Yeah, and he was like, That's the mindset he tries to breed in his company that ask the question, like, don't wait for the training, seek the training and share the knowledge.
SPEAKER_01I think, yeah, 100%. Like, you look at all on like nearly all the greats, you know, whether that be in sport, business, whatever, whatever the field may be, all those greats that we all look up to, they started from where we started. Their only difference is they probably asked a lot of questions to get to where they got to. Like, they I guarantee they were probably the biggest question, like asking the most questions in their group. And so when they get that next group of people, same thing will happen. Those people ask that many questions to the point where they'll get to, where they get to, and it's just like a flow-on effect. Like, I guarantee like a lot of the great athletes in the world ask a lot of questions on how to be good at their sport. Like, you don't just rock up to training one day and become good. You have to you have to put in the process, you have to ask questions, you have to put those answers that you get from those questions, you have to put into practice. So it's just like a full flow and effect and not being shy. I think it's culture built as well. If you have a good culture around you that you know you don't feel intimidated of asking questions, then it makes it a lot easier going after someone that's a like a bit better than you and asking, hey mate, how do you how do you get to where you got to? Like, what's just like what do you do?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, look, you the the best students I have are the ones who ask questions.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_00Like I genuinely worry if I tell you how to do something and you don't question it. Yeah, if you just go, yeah, I'm like, because have you understood it? Like, you might be the greatest pupil in the world, but generally, in my opinion, when you pass on information, they've only learned 75% without clarification. Like, I I'm still that learner. Like, I have to ask follow-up questions, yeah, because I'm not naive enough to believe I've just nailed it first time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, no. Like, I don't think anyone can just nail the fit. Well, unless, like, you could be this special. Some people can, yeah. You might just be that special when they can, but yeah, I'm I'm I'm certainly not, mate. I ask that many questions. People get people probably get sick of me, no way.
SPEAKER_00Like, one of my favourite questions, and I've always asked this, is why did that work? Like, that is something I used to ask my golf coach when I was a kid all the time. Like, to seek the clarification of why did this one work better than the last four, to try and find something that I could feel or think about a little bit more. Yeah, and I I very rarely hear it from people, but it is something that turns me on when I hear them words. Why did that one work this time and the other two don't? Because then we can clarify what you're doing to make it better. Turns me on that question, yeah. Because like you want obviously, you want to know why something's working, like I think the theory is psychological-wise, is you they just assume they've got it, so they don't want to know why that one's worked because they feel like it's done. I I personally would rather have clarification of why that one works, so it's not luck. Yeah, like that's how my brain works. I'd rather you say you did this and you did this, and what you were doing is this. And I'm like, oh, okay, I can feel that in my swing. I was also just guessing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I was actually uh watching something, like I was watching uh Jack Ginnavan talk a little bit about his like drop like his um set shot routine, and like he I remember him talk actually he was talking about with Josh like Josh Fasher. I remember him saying Yeah, Sha Fashion, you're the man. He was like, um so he was working on his set shot routine and he was asking because at first like he couldn't get it right or something like that, and then you started kicking a couple in a row, then you asked the question of like, okay, what's different? Like, what am I doing any different than the first 10 shots that weren't hitting, or are these last five shots hitting? And apparently, like Josh Fader sat him down and be like, I'll show you. And he played it in slow motion of see how you're dropping the ball with your left hand and the way you're kicking the floor and the way your other foot's pointed. Like, it's just those little things, and then you can if you know the answer of why something's worked, then you can build it into your routine knowing, okay, well, I know how to do it properly, I know what's gonna give me the most successful rate. I'm gonna make build that into my little routine, whatever it may be, maybe a session routine, it may be a running routine, swimming, whatever it may be. Just building this hat that habit that you know that works, the key that works, and then taking it from there.
SPEAKER_00You see, that turns me on because I'm a big reverse engineer guy. Yeah, I really like working backwards. So, like working backwards from the end product, yeah. It's it's it's hard to do, but I really like like that kind of coach and of what you just described where you like engineer what has gone wrong from the highest level, yeah, because it is crazy, because like anything biomechanically, football, golf, I think they're really good analogies for life because everything has to be synced for the result to be perfect, and I think that's life. Like, I I always look at life like golf. If something's slightly off, it'll fuck up somewhere else, and it's crazy because golf is the same thing that if you've got an error, you've got to make an error somewhere else to rectify it. And sometimes it works. Sometimes you'll make a mistake at the top of your swing, which means your downswing has to have a flaw, which makes a perfect result. That's life. Sometimes you do stupid dumb shit things that requires you to do another dumb shit thing to make it work. So like that. And I I always say this that dumb shit thing usually is a lie as well. So like you fuck up to make it right, you have to lie. Yeah, and the problem is is like sport, if you've got something that's wronged biomechanically, eventually it gets found out. Yeah, eventually under pressure, randomly, when you don't want it to. Yeah, so that's why you want to be as close to textbook perfect as you can, because then it's repeatable and it's consistent.
SPEAKER_01Well, you love this because you love your reverse, like what you just said there. So there's this swimmer that I was um watching, and his coach was getting him just like swim 100 metres, like just a couple sets a hundred metres. His first five sets were super slow, like he wasn't getting anything under like a minute 40, I believe. And then his second set of five, or he like he didn't change, like he changed something the way he stroked. So he was at first he was stroking, but his fingers were too wide, so his fingers were like that. But then his second set, without him even realizing it, he closed them a little bit, and then so as he's going, he's gone faster, he's hitting like a like one minute 20, so he's shaved off about 15 seconds, and then he'd ask his coach, What's different? And he's like, So he had like a slow motion camera in the pool that was facing upwards, and he's like, You see where your fingers are like that? That means too much water is going through. But as soon as you close them, that means there's not much water going through, but there's still enough gap so you can grip the water. It's like I was watching, I'm like, Fine, yeah, this is genius coaching. Yeah, this is wow, crazy.
SPEAKER_00Like, you know, you know what sport is like life as well, because sometimes you are so close to perfect, yeah, that it feels so far away. Oh yeah, so far away. It's like in golf, we have the slice, which 90% of people have, yeah, and it is crazy that just before you cure it, it sometimes feels worse than it's ever been. Like the amount of people who develop a snap hook, which is the opposite, yeah, and then they panic, it it's like so close, and it's like so frustrating. Sometimes when you watch people, you're like, you have no idea how close you are to absolute perfection at the minute. Like you are skirting on it, and it goes back to the start. Sometimes you've just got to commit to it, and it's something that I my wife laughs, I shout it a lot in the golf command lessons. Submit to it, just give in to it. 100% because sometimes you actually are your own worst enemy and you pull back from it and you don't give in because you're always mistake.
SPEAKER_01I think that's what makes watching great athletes get to work so good because like they've nailed like nearly every component of the game, but you just know for a fact like something along that training they've had to go to work on big time to get that kick right, get that shot right. Like it's a good thing. You look at Brody Camp. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Shout out the camp dog, but like like the week before, what was it? Like one goal for look at his whole month. Like and like you could tell, like I I said it on the watch along, and I'm sure you could see it at the game. Yeah, there was like an element of a lot more relaxed from him. Like he when he was taking that set shot, there didn't look like the fear, it was almost like he resigned himself to go. Worst case, I kick zero goals six.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but best case I kick six goals.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but the only way that I can kick five goals is by just trying to kick six behind. Yeah, having the bravery to go, look, if I fuck up, I fuck up. But I'm gonna do the right thing, and you know, you kick through the ball beautifully, biomechanically, it was sexy. You kick five goals, won the game.
SPEAKER_01Honestly, I've never seen the start. I've never never seen him play like that. That was like the probably the most relaxed I've seen him play in like a long time. Like, because he's had like spurts of you know kicking like a bag of goals. But now I think that now that he's seen himself do that against like a quality, like you've got to give Lions their credit as well, like they're a quality team. So for him to do that against like a good back six, I think that confidence now that he's seen it with his own eyes that he is capable of doing it, his confidence is gonna be through the roof now. That and I I guarantee you he's gonna keep that routine the same now every week. He's got he's found a routine that works for him, he knows what works for him. Now it's just about just being consistent with it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh it's one of the things that like the There's two things I hate in sport, like one, the B word, I hate bravery, because you have got to be brave, but like I think brave just sounds so hard to achieve. Yeah, it's easier said than done. But two, it's like you know, when you hear like people talk about like, oh, I don't want them to criticize, criticize the players. Yeah, I'm big on that. You've got to risk the criticism though. Like to be great, like for Brody, Brody had to get into that mindset, and this is like in life. Yeah, sometimes you've got to get in that mindset to go, you know what, I'm gonna put myself out there, and yes, I might get ridiculed, I might get laughed at, I might get told I'm a failure, yeah. But the only way to get the end product is putting you in that situation of being brave, knowing if it goes wrong, you could be it could be bad. Because otherwise it's not worth doing. Like, like I'll say it to my son with golf, it's frustrating and he gets upset at times. But I was like, that's the beautiful thing about it because it's so hard you it's worth having.
SPEAKER_01Like you want to do, I always say like go and do hard things because like go and she go and cheat things that you probably didn't think was possible. Like, you know, you want to look back in a year's time and think, gee, I can't believe I did that. I'm you know, I can't believe I'm doing this. Like my past year self would not believe what I'm doing now, you know. Just go out, go out and do hard things because you know what, it becomes fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it's many like like I always say it's an old cliche, but anything in life that's worth having isn't easy, yeah.
SPEAKER_01100%. Like otherwise, everyone would be done.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because otherwise it wouldn't be special. Like, like if six packs were easy, everyone would have them. What would there be fucking point? Yeah, do you know what I like there'd be no point?
SPEAKER_01That's a good point. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00It's it's like a happy marriage, it's hard work. If it wasn't hard though, would everyone would fucking do it, and then suddenly it's not special.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, 100%. Everything that is special, you gotta go through the hard work to get to that special point and get that special feeling.
SPEAKER_00And and it is funny because, like, like whether it's weight loss, professional sport, making money, you actually break it down and it is just a choice, yeah. Like, genuinely, like it's crazy how many similarities there is. It's a choice between do I risk it and and and risk failing to do what I dream of, yeah, or do I take the easy way out and just accept where I am? Yeah, and once you're in that mindset, I think that's such a negative mindset, and it's a mindset you kind of escape out of. Yeah, because sometimes you are happy and content and life's good, and that's good, you can accept that. Yeah, but like when you try and trick yourself into thinking this is where I want to be because you're scared of failing, yeah, that's a very dark place, I think. And you hear it all the time. Like, I had a friend a couple of months ago talk about work and he quit it recently, but he was in that mindset of like work's meant to be miserable though, and like I'm meant to hate it because everyone hates going to work, and I'm like, no, they don't, yeah. Like, that's what people have told you. That's not the reality of it. But I was like, you're fucking miserable, yeah, and you hate your life. Yeah, and like he was telling me, like, this long story short, but like he was saying that like his brother was pissing him off, but because his weekends were so short, he just let it happen. Yeah, and his flatmate was fucking about and he couldn't be asked for the argument because work depressed him. And I'm like, mate, you don't realise you've just accepted something that you don't want to do purely because you think you have to, yeah, and like recently he's quit his job, he's gone to work somewhere else, he's retraining, like, and I'm so proud of him, he's so happy now. Like, and he's got rid of the flatmate, like his whole life just shifted overnight. Yeah, but like hearing him for two months go to me, I'm up on like everyone's miserable. Like, I bet you hated work, and I was like, Yeah, sometimes, but like I didn't fucking hate work that to the point, yeah. Like what you're telling me. Like, I I would I would rather go for a beer Wednesday to two o'clock in the afternoon than be here. Yeah, 100%. I was like, it wasn't like a place where I was depressed and hated it.
SPEAKER_01I think like it's funny because it's like oh everyone hates, it's like it's almost like a social norm. So whatever you think the social normality is, it's like, oh well, I've just gotta deal with it. Nah, you don't don't need to. Like, you can mate, life is made for you to enjoy. Just we just gotta learn how we just gotta figure out what we enjoy. If you hate, if you really hate it that much, like don't don't keep yourself in a toxic environment, is what I say. Just try and find yourself.
SPEAKER_00I think you're right, it's societal. I think it's also like human nature that if we hate something, that means it's weird. Yeah, we well, we try and like make ourselves feel better that it's normal.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's weird, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00Like, because like hearing him, because he was like, Oh, yeah, people mourn all the time though. And I'm like, Yeah, you do, but not to the levels you're talking about. Like, yeah, like when we say we fucking hate work, it's like when I say I fucking hate my kids, they're a mild inconvenience at that moment. Yeah, like yeah, that I've like over-exaggerated that they're the worst human beings ever to walk the earth. Yeah, I was like, it's a turn of phrase that they're really not that bad. It like I was like, if we're all honest, no one wants to be in an office nine to five. Yeah, but also that's not your destiny, you don't have to do it.
SPEAKER_01Like you can literally do whatever it is you want to do in life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like society has told you that's normal. Yeah, you don't have to though, because like some people can do it and fair play to them, but like I worked in an office job before I like retired for three months, miserable, yeah, like absolutely genuine. Yeah, I don't know how people do it, like seeing the same people every day in the same fucking place every day.
SPEAKER_01Like, even just like the aspect of like the same office every day, yeah, like hearing the same shit stories every day. The old, same old question, how's your weekend, night? My weekend, same as Arsenal again.
SPEAKER_00I I might be the worst person in the world. Monday round the coffee table, worst thing in the world. Like always the same questions, and like everyone, you know what scared me is people used to have the same story, yeah. Like their weekend was identical, and I'm like, what? Like, what like I'm sure you've told me the same story six weeks. You told me that story last weekend, yeah. Like he's even had the same thing for dinner, like it's like a routine, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, and but but like I do think we do, like, we are, it's weird. Like, I was watching this documentary the other day, and it was weird, and it was like about how like the statistical probability of humans being here, yeah. And it's ridiculous. Like, if you actually work out like the human evolution from the Big Bang to now, mental that we're here. We're on a floating rock, just enjoy life, isn't it? Yeah, like I was like, I was already blown away, but then like the second part of it was like from the sperm and conception, the chance of you even being there, yeah, and then it was like the chance, like the guy shows you the statistics of being born, yeah, and then surviving to certain ages. I'm like, genuinely, we have a weird way of life where we are a miracle, yeah. So why the hell are we living in such like a cardboard box where like we're not normal? Like we're not meant to be here, like we're a miracle. So why live your life just accepting misery?
SPEAKER_01Honestly, like I I always say like make your goals like that like huge, like go as crazy as you want because you get your whole life to go and chase it, and when you finally, if you put that much work into it, you put that much process into it, you put that much dedication into chasing that goal, when you finally get to that goal, you're gonna be like, it was everything was worth it, like all that hard work was worth it. And it's like it's like I have like a little like thing, it's like building the dream, like build your dream, whatever your dream is, build it brick by brick, day by day, build it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, we all had like I I was looking at this the other day, like when we were kids, like everyone had like ridiculous dreams, yeah. Because I we we're having our school reunion soon, and like someone actually posted like uh year seven, what you were gonna be when you're older, and like I think there's only like seven of us that actually did it. Oh, really? Yeah, and it's quite sad, like because people had like these big dreams, but then like as life caught you in school, you were either told you were not clever enough, impossible dream, yeah, and it's something that I try never to teach my kids. Like, if my kids say something ridiculous, like they're gonna be a god, yes, I slap them down, okay. Relax. Like, I'm gonna be fucking morpheus or something. I'm like, nah, I can't down. But but I I do think like you're totally right. Like, we do live, like when you I remember like when you're at primary school and you've got like idiots saying that when they grow up they want to be Spider-Man and I want to be a rabbit, yeah, but we never stopped them because they were babies, they were children. We're like, let them have a dream. Yeah, there is a situation when you're at school that you're kind of like told, okay, well, that's never gonna happen. Oh, you want to be an actor? Never gonna happen, you're never gonna. And how many people do you hear who are famous? Like, I was watching um, I can't remember the actor now. Oh um, oh, the the guy who was wolverine.
SPEAKER_01Oh, uh, who who Jackman? Yeah, Hugh Jackman.
SPEAKER_00And he was saying that like throughout school, he said he wanted to be an actor, and even when he got like bit parts at 14, his teachers were saying this is a pipe dream, it's never gonna happen. But how many people you hear were told all the time, stupid dream?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and get a real job. Even like even when I was in school, like if you used to get told, like, you know, you work in a factory, like the best you would get, it's like never no, I I'm gonna do my own thing. So we are like indoctrinated to like almost cardboard boxes, it's almost like you get moulded into it's like schools and people try to mould you into what they think is acceptable and what they think you're good enough for, instead of like it's like do what you want to do, like live your life the way you want to live your life, you know. Don't don't mold someone just because you think they're not smart enough or whatever. Like anyone can do whatever they want.
SPEAKER_00And it's crazy that people go through trauma before they have a breakthrough. Cause like I was actually chatting to uh one of my mates' sons about like he wants to move overseas. Yeah, and like I said to him, like, I remember saying to my mates, my dad died, and I was like, I'm moving to like overseas, and everyone thought I was fucking mental. Yeah, and like I just made that stupid bet, whatever song comes on the radio, I'm moving. Australia came on by Manic Street Printers, but like literally the next two days, I sold everything. Yeah, like my brain was like, Okay, we're doing it, it's going to work. And I was like, and it and it's stupid now, it was just because I was dealing with the death of a loved one, yeah. But like that actually spurred me to do something that's changed my life. Like crazy, but but but because something happened, my brain was like, okay, bad shit happens, have to do something dramatic to fix it.
SPEAKER_01Sometimes you just need that one thing to happen, and you can change your whole life.
SPEAKER_00And like, I was like, you've got to kind of like manufacture that. Like, you don't need bad shit to happen to do something amazing, yeah. Just do it, and like I committed to it. I went two feet in. I was like, right, okay, I'm I I'm leasing my house out, I've sold my car. Probably like genuinely, I did it. Like, like I I remember like getting rid of my house and like had to move in four weeks. Wow, like that's how I did it. Like, I was like, okay, I'm doing this, yeah. Like I didn't even have a job.
SPEAKER_01I mean, as soon as you tell you how I say you got no choice then.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, do you know what I mean? Like, I and I I just like literally made it all happen in four weeks, and then within four weeks, I was here, and like little to no freaking reservation, and then I started to think like psychology-wise, you should do that in everything in life. Because if you give yourself no, I had no opportunity but to move. Like, the best case scenario for me was fly here, then get the return flight and fucking sort it out at the other end, yeah. But like, that's probably the mindset you need in life, just do it, like fully commit.
SPEAKER_01Something wrong, mom keeps telling me, just do your thing, uh go and don't procrastinate every other, just do it.
SPEAKER_00And and I kind of work better when I know myself when failure isn't an option. Now, I don't think this works for everyone because I think failure is a big thing, yeah. But I just have a view that I ain't doing it, I ain't gonna fail. Yeah, so I'd rather risk being like homeless and succeeding because my brain's like, okay, well, we're not fucking doing that. Yeah, so you are doing this, and I my brain switches on and goes, I'll drag you here, because I ain't living under a bridge to you. My brain has to work, 100%, yeah. If I'm kind of like if the consequence is something mild, my brain's like, nah, we can cope with the mild consequence, yeah. But but if I make it like an extreme, like I've got to commit, because if I don't, like I'm like, yeah, yeah. My brain's like, okay, cool, we're forcing that, but I do think I'm weird. I do think that that's you've got to like.
SPEAKER_01Like, put it on the back.
SPEAKER_00I have to make like a like a death choice. It's like you will die if you don't do this.
SPEAKER_01Like, it has to be gonna make sure that like negative outcome is like the worst of the worst. Let's make sure you get set up positive.
SPEAKER_00I genuinely like I need like someone to be like, I will pay for a hitman to finish you off if you haven't done it in four weeks, and you won't know when it's coming, and then I'll be like, Oh my god, we're gonna push. But but I do think like on the moral of that story, sometimes like back circling right back to Carlton, you've got to commit. Like, don't talk about being good, yeah, just do it and and like throw yourself into it. Because a bit like Carlton in life, if you do fail at anything, you're gonna get criticized. And even when you succeed, people criticize you.
SPEAKER_01You're gonna like I was doing things like oh, please be Brisbane. Like, okay, well, you if people aren't gonna be happy when we win, people are not gonna be happy when you lose, just win. Just go out and win and enjoy it. Enjoy the process. Like, life is better when when you're up and about, and you see the way they're playing right now, it literally looks like each and every single one of them just wants to be on that field and playing for each other. Just go out, commit to the process, commit to what you know, and guarantee you the results. Like, you beat Brisbane Lions of back-to-back premiers by 76 points. Like, if that's not an indicator of when you t have a total buy-in, what great things can happen, then I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you've got to make bold choices. Like, I'm wearing green socks today. Oh, look at that. Oh can I just say shout out the kids who uh use their pocket money to I I have an odd sock addiction. Fair. I have no idea where my socks go. Fair, fair, fair. I I only have black and white socks. Black and white socks. Yeah, but the variety of makes. So my kids went out and bought, in their words, ones that would look ridiculous if you don't have them matching. Oh, you know what? Which is genius for them. It's gonna backfire when like this time next week I've got the one that's got the tacos.
SPEAKER_01I can't wait for you to have one grain and like one pink sock.
SPEAKER_00I've got one like pink one that's got like tacos. Oh, I can't wait for the tacos. So like I can't wait till next week. Like, I'll have the tacos and then the ducks on it. Might be like a new segment, just like sock watch. Genuinely, if someone can tell me where the fuck socks go, I throw them in the wash basket, yeah, and I never get them back as a back, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's like me with like nearly everything. I only that much stuff.
SPEAKER_00Genuinely, I have no idea where they went. I I and look, Zoe tells me that she washed them. I believe that.
SPEAKER_01I have like a sock addiction though. I every time I go shopping, I always have to buy new socks. G socks.
SPEAKER_00A little bit of Pomo C D here. Yeah. But you know, until I met my wife, this is like Sam's way over the top, but it is true. Because of my like thing with hygiene, yeah, I would buy socks every week, and I never washed socks, I just throw them away. Throw them away. Like from the age of 18 to like 30. Jeez. Like jeez, you know what? I'll respect that though. I'm so on board with that. Yeah, because I'm like a uh like a smell guy. Yeah, you want them smelling fresh like each week. Yeah, and it is purely a financial decision. You can't afford to do that when you've got kids. Nah, that's fucked up for like insane. Do you know what I mean? Let's be honest, I'm not a millionaire, so I can't do that. I mean, if I was Elon Musk though, uh I would be socks every week. Yeah, brand new socks, one for thrown away.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Like it's right, what socks have you got? New ones spun today. Uh your other ones, oh, do them out, obviously.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, yeah, genuinely it's a weird little POM OCD.
SPEAKER_01I respect that.
SPEAKER_00POM's got some weird OCDs, you'll learn them throughout the these segments. That's one of them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, OCDs, like, yeah, I've got I got a bit of OCD as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. And yeah, smells is my weakness.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I've got this one with like the fridge.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like I've got to close the fridge a certain amount of times before I leave. Really? Yeah, I write that. It's a weird one. Yeah, I've got to open it like twice and close it twice. Everything I do has to be in twos or threes.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, evens.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, twos.
SPEAKER_00You're either an odds or an evens person.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, everything I have to do, like everything. But with the remote control is a bit different. I leave it. Is it an odd number and an even number? I think you're 22s even or odd. Even then I work in evens.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Mrs. Pom works in odds. I work in Evens. And the TV thing, I would say it's only recently that I feel comfortable watching the TV with Zoe because she has it on 13 all the time. That's all right. And I need it on 12. Yeah. And like honestly, it made me it made me feel physically uncomfortable. I could never fully relax, and there was times that she would go out of the room and I would change it to 12. She never knew it noticed as well. Because she always used to say it's too quiet on 12, absolute bollocks. But but like now SIBO effect. Yeah, yeah, now I can physically cope with it. But for for honestly, for seven years of our marriage, it genuinely made me feel uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_01Anytime tries to change it, I turning up the volume. I'm like, she's gonna change it, like either go up one or go back down one. Like we end with this like middle ground threes. Like, we're not doing a number three. I want a four or a two. Give me one, the other, and I'm happy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know what? It reinforced it as well because I was driving to York and my mate changed the radio once to seven, and it needs to be an even number, so it needed to be six or eight. Yeah, and I noticed it, but I kind of like was like, I'm not gonna be finicky, but we crashed the car, like someone went into the back of me, like about 30 minutes later, and I convinced myself it was because I allowed the radio together. I like fucked psychology, it never, but genuinely, like my brain was like the same right now. Yeah, because this happened, like like I didn't think guy's an idiot, guy didn't look fucking idiots. I was just thinking he changed the radio. That's why we this is what we I accepted it, I accepted it, I acknowledged it and accepted it. I brought this on myself, so yeah, like odd numbers, it throws me.
SPEAKER_01I don't like it, like no, I yeah, as I say, like fridge open, close, and then a couple of seconds later, open.
SPEAKER_00Like, I genuinely feel uncomfortable as well on videos if my video doesn't end on an odd number.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right. I haven't got to that point yet, but no, generally, I don't like the look of the number.
SPEAKER_00I don't like the look, so it has to be an even number. That's fair. I like it to finish like like 10 minutes 38. That makes me feel comfortable. Yeah, that's me feel comfortable when it's like 10 minutes 39. I am looking for the second to cut off.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, can I cut a second? Or you start like trying to like feel that gap into like that next yeah, do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Like genuinely, it's fucked that is new segment OCD watch. Genuinely, it's one of my guilty things. I'm cooked, I'm cooked, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Nice.
SPEAKER_00But let us know what your guilty pleasures are and let me know what you want to jump two footed in to this week. Can't wait. Two footed, two foot two foot in.
SPEAKER_01Otherwise, don't be one foot in, be two foot in. Yeah, just jump in, jump in. Be like carton and just commit.
SPEAKER_00Just commit and win by 70 points. Yeah, like like can't wait to beat the Saints this week. By 70 points. Yeah. So we'll be back next week. Enjoy the rest of your week. Make sure you hit the like and subscribe and follow us everywhere you get your podcast. But I've been Dan. I've been Alex. See you soon.
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