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Motivation Is A Myth | Discipline, Habits & Trusting The Process | DALEX Podcast Ep. 13
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Welcome back to the DALEX Podcast — Episode 13!
What if motivation isn't actually what changes your life?
This week Dan and Alex discuss why discipline, consistency and trusting the process matter far more than waiting until you feel motivated.
Using Carlton's incredible turnaround as a starting point, we look at how quickly things can change when you stop chasing instant results, accept constructive criticism and start improving the small things every single day.
Because sometimes you're not miles away.
Sometimes one tiny adjustment is the thing holding everything back.
We get into:
🏆 Carlton's remarkable turnaround
🧠 Why constructive criticism matters
💬 How to give feedback without destroying confidence
📈 Being consistently good instead of occasionally great
⚙️ Why process matters more than individual results
🔥 Discipline vs motivation
⏳ Why progress takes time
🏃 Fitness and weight-loss progress
🥊 Lessons from boxing
⛳ Lessons from golf and coaching
🏊 Small technical changes creating huge results
🍽️ The tiny diet mistakes people don't notice
🎮 Making difficult things enjoyable
👨👦 Helping kids learn through things they already love
💡 The power of five minutes of motivation
📓 Why tracking your progress matters
😂 And yes... the carnivore guy returns.
One of the biggest lessons from the episode is that motivation comes and goes. Discipline is what gets you through the days when you don't feel like doing anything, while motivation can become the reward for sticking to the process long enough to actually enjoy it.
We also talk about how progress isn't always immediately visible. Sometimes you're doing almost everything correctly and one tiny adjustment unlocks the result you've been working towards.
And perhaps most importantly:
Five productive minutes in the right headspace can change the direction of the next five years.
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Do you think motivation is overrated?
Or do you need motivation to stay disciplined?
Let us know below.
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Welcome back everyone to the Daleks Podcast, episode thirteen, evidently. How are we all?
SPEAKER_00Mate, when Josh Fraser got appointed, I think it was the happiest day of my life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, look. 13 weeks and uh Fraser's been appointed. Like we technically got him the job.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like Josh Fraser, if you're if you're watching, you're welcome. Yes, it's almost James Mane.
SPEAKER_01Uh a lot of feedback last week, uh particularly around uh carnivore diets.
SPEAKER_00Oh no. Oh this guy. I I went down to have a hold myself a little bit. I looked him up. Yeah, this guy, he's not a human.
SPEAKER_01Well, we are gonna have human at some point in the show with post-recording. We will input me and Alex drinking the I can't wait for the I can't wait for this butter coffee. I'm looking forward to potentially dying. But uh, if this is the last thing I'll leave the world, so be it.
SPEAKER_00If this is the last episode, it's been a fun ride. I I've enjoyed the 13 episodes. It's been awesome.
SPEAKER_01Cause of death buttering coffee. Yeah, but I mean, bit busy week in the world and uh in sport, obviously, for those who are Carlton fans. Yes, we're officially in the finals. We've got uh a game in a couple of days, but we are already in finals.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know how you wouldn't believe it, like what maybe four months ago. If if when we started this podcast, we wouldn't have believed it. No way. If if you told us episode one, hey, by the way, you'll be in finals. Come episode 13, you'll be in finals. You can probably rest players against Fremantle if you really want to, because you've got it secured. I probably would have probably both of us would have laughed, like, no way. But it is you said to me the other day, it's like a good life lesson, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01It it is, isn't it? Like, I mean, look, like I asked you, you know what? A wise man once told me that the the darkest night is before the brightest morning. Yeah, never understood it. Kind of counting is that, isn't it? Because like 13 weeks ago, it was pretty dark. It was like people were sacking, overthrowing the board. There was talk about sacking Crips, yeah, trading Crips, even.
SPEAKER_00Do you know what I mean? We're sacking like everyone that had a name, really like that club.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, do you know what I mean? I I even like I was actually looking, going deep diving into this. Like, people were talking about like overthrowing the board and getting rid of Graham, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know. Like it was insane, it was an insane time. Yeah, Crips was getting sacked. Um, we we were sacking just everyone that was involved with the Carlton like footy club. Uh, and then now four 14 weeks have passed and and we're back. We're we're actually back, we're hiring people now. We're not sacking anything. The blues are back. The blues are actually all the way back. And if you look at the last probably 14 weeks with with Josh Fraser, if you're just looking at a base second half of the year, he's taken over. Sitting what second on the ladder, second best to to Fremantle, be the best in five days. Be the best in five days' time, once we do be free mantle, I reckon. But man, it's it's insane to think like we actually could hopefully take take a wild card and go hopefully a far way into it. And episode 17 of this podcast will be the uh grand final. That's insane. Imagine episode 17 for 17. That's it, works itself out.
SPEAKER_01Not saying we planned it, but we planned it.
SPEAKER_00We saw the script, we saw the script earlier. Dan emailed me like hey, uh we saw the script.
SPEAKER_01Just saying, like synergy, pumology, it's all there. But you know, one thing I did want to talk about on the cart and thing, I I've been listening to Fraser quite a bit. Yeah, and I I think everyone experiences this in life as well, that criticism seems to be a bad word. Yeah, like people like really get scared of criticism. I was listening to Fraser, particularly after the dogs game, and he was quite critical of how we played. Yeah, he was quite open, it wasn't good enough, and it's not what we've done. But he did it in such a positive way that talking about the lessons you can learn from Carlton, I was listening to Fraser and was like, he is being critical, but in such a positive way that I think this might explain to people you can say something is shit without destroying it.
SPEAKER_00100%. It's that feedback piece that Phaejo's, you know. I think something I really like about Phaeos just the way he speaks as well. Like definitely that Bulldogs game. I think in the in the box at Pantum and people mouthfeeding, like that was like that was shit. Yeah. Um and then like in his press conference, like he pretty much said that, but he identified what was what was it he was actually talking about. So he's not just saying, Yeah, that wasn't good, that wasn't that was bad, we didn't play good. He actually explained what it was he didn't like, and I think that's where the players will respect him a lot more because they're not just getting told the shit, he's that he's telling them why he wasn't happy with that performance and where to get better. And it's criticism, you gotta have it in life, like especially in professional sport and stuff like that. You you need to have it to get better, and if you're scared to have that feedback, then probably not ready for that level.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you've got you. I mean, look, like there's two forms of feedback, like there's the negative one where you're like, I was actually speaking to someone, and one of my mates is a psychologist, and he was talking about self-criticism is the most dangerous thing in the world because you can check yourself, but some people go too far. And I was like, totally understand that because I'm destructive when I criticize myself, but it you do need feedback in some way, and unfortunately, you're never gonna get pure positive feedback, like not all the time, yeah. And I I think Fraser's the greatest example. You saw him in the box say we played effing shit. Yeah, then he's delivered the message to the public, yeah, which is that, but it's watered down, it's like not, he hasn't criticized. But I'd imagine when he was with the players, it was somewhere in between effing shit, 100%, not good enough, 100%. And I'm like, you've kind of seen how feedback works at the point someone's probably angry, yeah, then you've got to water it down a little bit to explain it to the human being so he doesn't cry and go with defensive, yeah, but then you've also got to explain it to other people that have dealt with it. Yeah, I'm on top of it, but he's also on top of it. Kind of a good lesson for life there, huh? 100% people think negativity is the effing shit bit, but you can actually give someone the your effing shit with a little bit of love.
SPEAKER_00100%. Is this that like it's a constructive and like constructive criticism? Like these boys, they want to like just looking at it from a football point of view, like these boys want to eventually win a flag. That's that's the idea of it. So he needs to be that guy in charge of like, okay, well, I know that wasn't good, but now I need to explain to these boys what was bad because they just they were out there, you know. I mean, they they probably knew themselves that wasn't great, but they can't see it from a third from a second from my eyes. So I'm explaining it from a coaching point of view what I don't like and don't do it again. But he's possible also delivered it in a way where he's not like he's just not sp like totally spraying them, spraying them to the point where the boys are like, but this guy's not even talking to us like human beings. So, and that's what you want when you're delivering that criticism piece, like you still want to be, you know, if I mean like if I do something bad, like I want someone there telling me what I did bad, but also not just screaming in my face of oh you're doing this bad, you're doing that bad, you're doing this wrong. Just explain to me like what it is that I need to do better at.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Fraser delivered something in that press conference which excited me because when I went through my coaching course in the third year, I remember before any bad news always deliver something they did well. Yeah, and it it's like something that's always stuck with me in that. Like before you start breaking someone's swing down or giving them the feedback, start off with this was really good, yeah, and then explain it to go to the next level, and that's when you deliver the bad news. He actually was talking about he loved the fight, he loved the maturity, and then he hit them. But from second quarter, they were really, they were really poor around. And I was like, This is like coaching 101, he's complimented them because you're always open to pro you're always open to learning when you're praised. Yeah, and I was like, I actually love that because he made me laugh. Because I was like, that is psychology 101. He's openly said they were good, yeah, but then he's delivered what they need to improve. And I was like, okay, I really like this because I reckon this would work with the players.
SPEAKER_00100%. It's become like a bit of a thing for him in like every press. Like, it literally, if you look at all of his press conferences, he always opens it with something he's really happy with the game, and then he goes into that piece of like, all right, what wasn't I happy about? I'm gonna explain that as well. So he does it like in every press conference, and like another thing that he's done really well is like I think it was maybe after the Hawthorne game, is like, don't don't cradle like what was it? Um don't don't judge us on this one, yeah. Don't judge us on this one. Like, that's such an important thing as well, because now he's defending his team, so he's got like the elements of every great coach. He can give you that positive feedback, then he gives you the um like the negative, and then he also defending his team when he needs to. So like it's just a perfect, perfect coach, really, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean you can use count as example as well. Because I was listening to him when he was announced, yeah, but he I I I've been quite open about this because I think this is a great life lesson as well, that even though the players are responsible for the results and he's responsible for the tactics and structure, yeah, he brought the fans into it as well, yeah, and took them along for the journey talking about, and I was like, this is really clever because in life, if like let's just say your mum and dad are your biggest role models, they're the ones who nurture you, and then you've probably got a couple of friends that guide you. It's also your environment as well. That's a big part of it. Like, you need more than just a parent figure and a best friend. Yeah, you've also got work, you've got school, you've got extended family, extended friends, all of them shape your result, whether you want them to or not. You could be the most confident person, but they will have an impact. I think that's where you can learn from Fraser that you've got to take the good with the bad and embrace what you can. And he was quite open with the fans that they're quite critical, yeah, but also some of them are quite loud and positive, and they've got to focus on that energy. I was like, this is really good how Fraser's like negated this. I think he's he gets it.
SPEAKER_00So it's smart. He yeah, he gets it, he gets the job really well. Like, and I think he's referred to the Carlton fan base as a bit of like a sleeping giant as well. And it's so true. Like, we probably saw in 23 when when we went on that run in 23, you saw what it did to the fans and the momentum it builds with the playing group as well. I think he's identified what happened then, and now he's done it again by you know really referring to the fans and being the fans along for the journey. Um like a lot of the cast and players are even doing it as well, and that's why you want as a fan, like you want to be included in you know the success of the club because you you know the fans invest a lot of time and energy and money as well, and you know, buying memberships, merchandise, and stuff like that. So to get a bit of recogniz uh recognition from you know your your head coach, that's a pretty positive, positive piece, and yeah, I absolutely love Josh, Josh Schaderman.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, you know, the biggest life lesson I could give, and I was actually using Carlton with my son the other day. When you go back to when we lost to St Kilda, there was a little bully statement, I think, from St Kilda, which would be something might resonate with people at home, where St Kilda said, We knew if we put pressure on them, they would eventually crumble. We expected them yes, we expected them to lose if we brought our game.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I listened to the press conference this week from Justin Longmure at Fremano, where he said, I'm stoked we've got Carlton, we need finals intensity. They're the best team apart from us in the competition at the minute, so this is the best warm-up for finals. And I'm like, if you are a human being out there watching this, just think how quickly that changed. 12 weeks ago, you had a team that isn't playing finals, almost saying you're easy beats, we knew we'd beat you. Yeah. To now the best team, the team that are the minor premiers, yeah, saying they're the worthy enemy, that they're the toughest, the people we didn't want to play, yeah, are Carlton. Yeah. How quickly you can turn round, 12 weeks, you can go from loser to hero.
SPEAKER_00But and it literally, like, the confidence that that probably builds with like the own, like with Carlton's. I was like, geez, like these are the top dogs in the competition. Like, they haven't they've only lost like what two two games this year. They're referring to us as like their biggest competition. That like that's literally the equivalent of the you know, the biggest guy in the gym saying, mate, you're looking big. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's the equivalent of that. So yeah, you're 100% right. Like, if you look at that in this life, when you have someone that you look up to complimenting and saying to you, like, mate, you're you're on par with me, it's like, geez, like that's my idol saying that. So like Carlton looking at their top the top competition, them referring to you as mate, I didn't give a damn if we're playing Geelong. Well, you know, we wouldn't say that about Geelong, we won't say that about Hawthorne, but Carlton, no, we don't want to play them because if you look at their second half of the year, they're the second best to us. So that's a massive, massive compliment, definitely.
SPEAKER_01100%. And I think the biggest life lesson I've got out of Carlton, because I think you can use sport, is just following a process, yeah, and when you like you said it be consistently good. It's be consistently good, then occasionally great. Like like you look at Carlton, they've just consistently been good, and eventually they're starting to get that greatness. Like people starting to recognise them because they just stayed the process bit by bit. You look at like the first game against the dogs to now, the little things they've just built and just got a bit better at. They haven't tried to be brilliant, yeah, they've just tried to get a little bit better every week.
SPEAKER_00I'm saying you can't be great overnight, you know. That's where the quote kind of comes into play, where just pick the process, pick where you need to get better at, and then chip by chip at it, keep getting better at it, keep building your foundations. And I think Josh Fajer's a really big process-driven guy, like he identifies brick by brick what we need to get better at, you know, and now and now you're putting scores on the top dogs in the coaches like Bisbe, and you're putting 76 points on them. So just like in life, like just be consistently good at your own process, at what you need to get better at, identify what you need to get better at, and little by little, time will go. As time goes on, you're gonna find yourself having that great moment.
SPEAKER_01You know, one thing I've noticed as well, which I think I've always had this internally, and it's been said, is if you watch sport, everyone was saying Carlton needs to be more like Brisbane, Carlton needs to be more like Hawthorne. It was interesting the other day. I was listening to an article and they were talking about St. Kilda and saying they need to model Carlton. Yeah, and I'm like, it's funny because in life I've always been told, never compare like my granddad used to say comparison is the thief of Droight. And nothing's truer. Like, if you start comparing yourself to someone else, you'll always be upset. Yeah, you're always but but you if you're great and you're good, you are the comparison. 100%. And the only way you get that is by doing it your way, and then eventually people say, be like this guy. Yeah, 100%. And I was like, Carlton have done that. I was hurt every time I watched Daniel Hein at Champ Starter, it was like Carlton need to do this and copy this team. And now to hear him say, Maybe they should do what Carlton are doing, I'm like, okay, just by focusing on what we do, yeah, people want to be us.
SPEAKER_00I think the way you do that is just identify what you do really well at and then build off that. Like figure out what it is that makes you great, and then just keep building your foundations of that. Like for us, for example, like what's worked for us really well is we had a really good contested game, but now we've been able to build off speed on the ball, ball movement, using more, score. Like, if you told me like 14 weeks ago, like, hey, we'll be having we'll have fast ball movement, I'd be like, Oh, we won't. But now it's like, oh geez, like that's that's the standard.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you you know what, and I think that's like life. Like you sometimes surprise yourself as well when you start to do things like like you just use the S word. Yeah, like 12 weeks ago, people were telling me that Carlton were as quick as my dead man, Carlton is slow, yeah, and like I've heard that so many times. Speed, Carlton's speed is really impressive, and I'm like, yeah, like like 12 weeks ago you were telling me Crips was slow, and like like just shout out Crips, seeing him run away from Ed Richards, yeah. That was all that where people have told me Crips is slow, and I'm like, is he?
SPEAKER_00Bro just Bro ran like a half marathon and sprinted away from him, bro. Five people were telling me Crips was slow, like where were we sucking him like 14 weeks ago? Where's bro got this leg? Like the leg work from him. Sometimes you do surprise yourself, you know. I mean, like I I remember like just in like life, sometimes you're like you do something really well, and you're like, oh damn, I didn't know I could do that. Yeah, well, like then once you do it, it's like I'm gonna keep doing that, you know.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean it's like your boxing career moving into athletics. Yeah, you build that around probably things you do really well at boxing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, a lot of it, you know, you you get from you know experience, I guess, and like with like running and swimming, for example, a lot of it, you know, the mindset piece of it comes from boxing because like boxing you need to be really disciplined, like you've got to show up day in, day out. Same thing with running and and swimming, like it's hard to sometimes motivate yourself, but you know, discipline over motivation, as they say, because motivation you know it comes and goes really quickly. You know what I mean? Like some days, you know, you'd be extremely motivated to do something, like you'd be like, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do that, and you just you go and do it. But the next day you're gonna be like, I don't want to do it now, I'm not motivated. That's where the discipline comes in. Because if you're only mo if you're only gonna do it when you're motivated, you're only gonna be doing something like once every two months, I reckon. Oh, yeah, I mean, like motivation motivation is is the worst thing to go off. Yeah, you see, I'm a big one on motivation that I just don't believe it's like real. Yeah, I think it's a myth. Honestly, I think it's a myth. Motivation doesn't exist.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I and I think like from a coaching point of view, like it's motivation. I always feel for coaches because when you do the same thing over and over again, it's like anything in life, it becomes very boring. Yeah. And as a coach, I always think phrase is fascinating because doing golf and when you work with the same guy all the time, some days you can't be asked to even coach him, but then your job is to motivate the other guy to listen to you when you can't be asked, and that's when discipline comes in. It's like, okay, I really can't be asked to be stood out here for six hours watching this guy hit golf balls, yeah. But I've got to make him motivated to do it, and I've I'm not motivated. It's that hard thing, isn't it? It's easy to rely on discipline, like discipline, it's like okay, I've got to do it, and this is the process, and I need to follow that process. Motivation, I think, comes into it because you become addicted to the process, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, 100%. You nailed it there. I I've always like viewed motivation as the reward you get for sticking to your process. Yeah. And I think that's that's the part that we need to get right. Like, if you just stick to something for long enough and consistent enough, eventually, eventually, somewhere down the track, you'll be motivated to do it because you enjoy you learn to enjoy the process. Like, I've always said that you learn to enjoy the thing you do. And I I think you know, if you look at it from any like sport point of view, life point of view, if you stick to something for long enough, you find yourself like you find yourself feeling weird if you don't do that thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, I agree. And I always think like it's the like the I think anything in life, whether it's losing weight, being fitter, yeah, getting a better job, like the motivation piece is you wanting to change and having the end. Probably I think you've nailed that. Like that sh, and I think some people think that the only way to get that though is by following the process, and the process is probably gonna be hard. Like it's not meant to be easy because you're obviously life is easy where you are now because that's what you're living. Yeah, to make a change that's gotta be hard because anything different is hard, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like by default. Oh, I saw this like um like little crow, and I actually read it down somewhere because I actually really liked it. It's like there's pros and cons to going with a process. The the cons are process takes a lot of time, like it takes years, it might take months, um, it might take you know how however long it takes a little while. But the pros, the pros of it is time passes by. So as time's passing by, you're getting better and better and better by day in, day out. Like you might not notice it first week, second week, first month, even, but come that sixth month, let's say your goal is losing weight, for example, and you start it from January 1st and you're gonna go all the way to December 31st. The first two weeks you might not notice much, but then April will roll around and be like, geez, like just from a couple months. I've already noticed this much. Then March will roll around, then July, September, October. Then before you know it, it's December 31st, and you've lost your goal rate, maybe even more, and you're looking as bad as ever, feeling good as ever. And you've just stuck to that process. Time has passed by and you've just stuck with it.
SPEAKER_01And it's all of like them habit building, innit? Like I think process in habit are sometimes people think of different things.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But it becomes habit, doesn't it? Like everything in life, like everything you do, whether it's good or bad, if you actually break it down, it's just from a habit you've gained.
SPEAKER_00We're creatures of habit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like even if it's a bad habit, there will have been a point that that wasn't part of your process, and then you tried something new, and now you've just got stuck in that trap. And I think that's the same with sport. You learn bad habits and you keep going back to the bad habits.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it's easy in sport to find yourself going to bad habits.
SPEAKER_01Like well, sport's the worst because you always are looking for shortcuts, like you're looking for incremental improvement, and you'll take it, you'll take it. And sometimes the incremental improvement, it's always the I remember someone saying to me, you should never judge a golf swing on its result, you should judge it on its process. Oh, yeah. Which which is sounds weird at first because sometimes people who do shit things and it works. Yeah. But down the track, the stupid stuff they're doing in their golf swing will cause more bad than good, even though because today it's working, tomorrow something might change and it doesn't. So you want to be as close as you can to repeatable.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Such a good thing because it's the same with like Carlton. Yeah. Like you could look at eat doggies, results-based, the whole form game, yeah, and go, not very good, is it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But if you're results-based, you're going to miss probably the big game, which is getting the process right, makes you win.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, 100%. Like, it's like everything, like it's like almost like when you kick a goal in footiage are, you know, like you might kick a goal, but your routine might have been like really shocking. And like it does, you're very lucky to hit that. But you might think, oh, that worked, I might just keep doing that, and then eventually, somewhere down the line is going to cost you. And I think that work that works in nearly every sport and even day-to-day life. Like, if you even if you're working and you do something wrong, but you know, it somehow works itself out, you might find yourself going, oh well, worked that time, um, I'll get away with it again. Eventually, you'll stop getting away with the thing that's been done wrong. You know, it's always gonna come up and you know, it's always gonna catch up to you. Eventually, somewhere down the line, it's gonna catch up. You know what?
SPEAKER_01Before, like I after I finished working in golf, I worked at an insurance place and I did staff training. Um I always remember this, and this is a great thing about process. A lot of the new kids who started doing sales, the best ones would usually go two, three weeks at the start of their training and not actually get a sale. And they'd get really upset. But then there'd be like these guys who were getting sales straight away. Yeah, and these guys started to think they were amazing, but they never followed the process they were trained. Yeah, nine times out of ten, six months later, the guys that had no sales in four weeks were the best because they followed the process and they just weren't getting the results. It was like a slight thing towards the end that they'd get wrong, but nine 90% was perfect. Yeah, the guys who were ad-libbing it and straying and finding things that worked usually failed later on because they'd learn all these shortcuts that they thought were working short term, but the guys who stuck it and they got over that period of embarrassment of not being very good, yeah. They were nailed by the end because they just followed the process and then they realized this is right, yeah, and now I'm reaping the rewards. And it's a bit like I suppose weight loss, like you say. Some days you you don't lose the weight and you feel good, yeah. But then, like, like the other day, I'd I'd seen I'd lost a KG after the other week being dead on.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And like I was like, I actually felt worse when I'd lost it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I felt like mentally it didn't feel as good as the week before. Yeah. But it's crazy how like life works. If you're doing the right things, you will reap the rewards. It's a case of when, not if.
SPEAKER_00When. Yeah, it you know, it's eventually if you're sticking like if you're sticking to it for long enough, eventually somehow the time is gonna, the time will come where it all works itself, it's all gonna click. And it's you know, if you go back to the sport, like if you go back to Carlton, like if you look at the first half of the year, we had some elements done right. It was that second half where we were fading out. So we had that, you know, we had 50% good, but then the other 50% of the game was was bad. Then you got a guy coming in, identified the whole thing, and be like, alright, what's not working, let's let's figure it out. And now you look at the complete complete thing, it's a bit of a different game plan, but now we're completing games and it's going well. I remember like I was helping someone out, like throwing their upper car, like in in in boxing, and he couldn't figure it out for some reason, like he just couldn't couldn't figure it out. He's like, it it looked good, it looked good when he was sparring, it looked awesome. But he's like, it just doesn't feel right, like it's not landing the way I wanted to land. I'm like, alright, let me help you out. Show me how you're throwing it. The way he throws it, he has perfect technique on it. Like the technique it was it was flawless. He shoulder down to the knee, something that you always teach, you scratch it down at the right time, but the only thing you did wrong was that last 10%. That last 10% of throwing it, he was dropping the arm a little bit too far down, so you could see the shot coming, and it was just coming up too short. So it was almost skying it, not letting it go, and it was a really big misconception of the upper car is you is you go up, not not kind of like that. So as you threw it, I was just like throw your arm out, keep it there, keep it there. I'm like, instead of throwing it here, go here. So you did it next time you spied, and when I tell you, like it landed like literally, you threw it 10 times, 10 out of 10 times, he landed it perfectly. So you're 100% right. Sometimes that last 10% day, you just need to get right, you've got to keep chipping at it, you've got to keep going at it, and then eventually it's gonna it's gonna click. Just like I did with Carlton now, second half of the yeah, unbelievable. You just gotta you just gotta keep going with it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know what? That's a great analogy about like the uppercut, because that reminds me of the golf swing. Like a lot of people think it's just what you do when you hit the ball, yeah, and the process is irrelevant after that. Yeah, and it's something that I had a golf lesson the other week where we were talking about this that your follow-through is so important, yeah. Like, and he was like kind of confused, he was like, Oh, but the ball's already gone. But I'm like, what happens in the follow-through is part of the process of hitting the golf ball. And I'm sure like with the uppercut, it's the same, you it's not the target. Yeah, if you start thinking about the target, you don't hit it properly.
SPEAKER_00You can't you can't think of where you want to hit the shot. Yeah, you can't think of that. You just gotta you gotta throw it, and the shot will the shot will come. The shot will land where you want it to land.
SPEAKER_01And is the uppercut a bit like the golf swing? I always say try and have your brain thinking of after you've hit the ball. That's where I want you to think the payoff is 100%. Because I always say the golf club gets in the way of the ball.
SPEAKER_00I say that now, I say that like boxing now. Your glove, like your glove, the person's head, he's just getting rid of your glove. That's the way it is. Don't think about the head, don't think about the body. Throw it, and it will hit it will hit it. You just gotta follow through with it.
SPEAKER_01And and I the that's where I think with golf uh it helps me in life that every part of the golf swing contributes to the success of the shot.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Where I think in life sometimes you think of the actual thing, you're the objective, yeah. You're not thinking about the process because the process after is equally as important as reaching the target.
SPEAKER_00No, 100%. Like 100%. Like, you know, after you threw it, sometimes you're getting hit afterwards and stuff like that, and it's probably a little bit different, like, you know, the process after in in boxing is make sure your hands are back up. Like, don't don't just don't admire it for too long, and even I suffered that a little bit. Like, you sometimes admire the shot, like if it lands really cleanly, like, well, I'll take my time in my hand back, but then you get hit, it's like, oh but I just landed in that good shot, I now got hit. Why? Well, you just gotta go, you've got to go back, you've got to retreat, you gotta go back to what worked. You throw it, where's your hand go? We always call it a face like home, like bring it back home. You know, you if you go out shopping, you don't stay at the shops after you've done shopping, you go back home. That's how we use like the analogy for boxing, like once you've done done the hand, bring it back. Like I saw someone like helping me out with a bit um someone at the pool was helping me out with my with my um swim stroke, and they're like, Oh, let me help you out, man. I was like, Oh yeah, sweet, thanks. They're like, the first part's really good, you're going in like that, but your hand's too wide, and I said, I think I've mentioned this before, is you can't have your hand too wide, so he's like, close it in for me a little bit. I'm like, alright, sweet. I'm like, oh my god, this is magical, this is crazy. It's so insane, like, process to everything is like the key of success.
SPEAKER_01Well, sport is like when you look at biomechanically, boxing, swimming, golf. Yeah, if you're like like I always say it's a game of percentages. If you're like 0.5% out, because I've got a golf simulator at home that we do have like the cameras that will give you the degree angles, yeah. It is crazy that you can be a degree off, like a degree, like a degree the human eye can't see as well. Like it's sometimes I've looked at golf swings, I've seen it for 20 years. I can slightly see something looks wrong, but I can't we unless I slow it down, yeah, and then you'll see it's like 2.2 degrees off, yeah. And it's like crazy because then you're trying to explain to a human being you need to make the smallest adjustment in the world for the biggest end result. Like we're talking like 10-20 shots, and I'm sure it's the same with swimming, slightly moving your fingers for two seconds.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's insane. It's like I didn't I wouldn't even thought about that. Yeah, exactly. My hand was like that, and you want it like that. That's literally, literally a two-second theme I need to do. But you just don't but instead of going from I guess 90%, you go to 100% like so quickly, it's like far yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and crazy that and it works in everything because like me and Alex, I was telling him a good mate of mine's a nutritionist in the UK, yeah, and he's been loving the carnivore guy. Yeah, because he he just can't believe any human being would believe this is the way to live. But like he was telling me a story about someone he works with that they hardly ate, like he looked at their diet plan, yeah, and it was brilliant, but they weren't losing weight, yeah. And he was like, This makes no sense because like the calories you've told me like are actually a deficit, you should be good, yeah. And then he looked, and it was the guy who having four sugars in every drink.
SPEAKER_00God, yeah, that adds up.
SPEAKER_01Right, and he was like, Because he had like two coffees in the morning and six cups of tea, it was like pushing two main meals of calories, of liquid calories. And he was like, once I flipped it and he gave him like I can't remember what he said, but it was like some kind of like sugar alternative, yeah, which was like two calories as opposed to 50 calories. But he was like saying the guy suddenly was in a calorie deficit and now doesn't have sugar, but for him, it seemed such an innocent thing, like yeah, you don't count those two coffee in the morning, he was like, Oh well, I've cut out fast food, and yeah, but he was like, he was technically the worst thing he was having was the drink, yeah, but no one had ever told him, yeah, and it's like that small change has made a huge change in his life, yeah. But he was getting disheartened because he was like, I'm sticking to the diet, I'm sticking to everything I'm being told. He'd never told anyone he had this, he just wrote tea and coffee, and people assumed no sugars, no sugars in it, yeah. But because he did, it was killing him, and I'm like, it that is like life. Sometimes you are on the perfect track, you're doing everything right, yeah. The one thing you're not is the one that's actually holding you back.
SPEAKER_00That's what that's what I'm back, yeah. I've actually had like someone um like a help trainer came up to me. He's like, bro, I'm not I'm not losing anyway out all. I was like, I'm like, alright, show me show me what you eat in a day, like give me a rough example. And he started off saying, Oh, I skip breakfast, then like I have a small lunch and then a big dinner. I'm like, your first mistake is not eating breakfast, eat breakfast. Your second mistake is having a small lunch and saving all your calories up for dinner. I'm like, first mistake, don't do that. Never do that. Because if you're saving up all your calories mentally, all that's doing to you is like, oh, if I save up all my calories for dinner, I can have a big ass dinner, maybe something afterwards, maybe a little dessert. And then how often do you hear people say, oh, I'm not even nowhere near enough? Maybe I need to eat more. But the truth is when there's people saying that, it's probably because they're eating way, way too much without them realizing it. Because mentally they said, I skipped breakfast, so that's like you know, a thousand calories to spare, small lunch, you know, maybe another thousand, so I've got two thousand calories to play with, like I at dinner, maybe I have a dessert, and then before you know it, they're like three thousand calories for the day. And then I'm like, and then you're going to sleep, so you're not even working that off throughout the day. I'm like, you may as well have structured breakfast, structured lunch, structured dinner. You have enough calories, and guess what? You probably have enough calories to play with at the end of the day as well if you want a little sneaky snack. 100%.
SPEAKER_01Like it's crazy because it is, it's always the small things, isn't it? Oh, the slight like lost in translation, like skipping breakfast, it does make sense.
SPEAKER_00Realistically, it makes sense to skip breakfast. Like, if I if you're trying to lose weight, skip a meal, it makes sense, but it's crazy how it works. If you're skipping breakfast, you're gonna be way too hungry later in the day, and then you're not working anything off. It's just a really weird mental thing.
SPEAKER_01And you also like for someone that did use to skip breakfast as well. When you sometimes get over hungry that you easily overeat. Oh, so crazy. Like, do you know what I mean? Like you'll start to make shit choices because you're so hungry. Yeah, you stop thinking when you're hungry, man. Like I used to do that loads, like I'd be so hungry that the idea of eating healthy or cooking 45 minutes, I couldn't be arsed. Yeah. So you go for the cheap, quick, horrible option. 100%. Because you're so and then you validate it because you're like, oh, I'm about 2,000 calories in the red, so I'll be fine.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I haven't eaten today.
SPEAKER_00My mate was um doing like meal preps for the week and stuff like that. But each was doing a meal prep, she was saying to me, Oh, you know, I was having a bit of this, had a snack with there, you know, tasting this. He's like, and then for some reason my customers at the end of the day was over. I'm like, well, how much were you eating when you're doing your meal preps? Like, oh, you know, before lunch, you know, I had like a slice of bread, and then like, you know, when I was in my meal preps, you have to taste your meal preps, and she's like, Yeah, so this and that, I'm like, that's probably like 400 calories like that's leak. What are we doing?
SPEAKER_02Just just just to add like a mix worth of calories.
SPEAKER_00But I was eating Bos eating a meal while making a meal, I I've made it. Food testing, it's free calories. But I can't lie, I do it too. Like when I'm making meal preps, you saw you gotta look. Yeah, you've got to make sure that the flavour's good. Yeah, you gotta make sure it's not poisonous, you know. Yeah, don't we? But don't eat the whole meal prep. Yeah, but would a lion do it? Would a lion do it? Would a lion eat his meal prep? Probably.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'd imagine probably after us, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's crazy, but no, you are right, like it's just genuinely in it. Sometimes, like, it's crazy that when you look at anything, sometimes it's the smallest change makes the biggest difference.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I if you've gone back to like sport for example, as right, it's crazy. Like it's a big piece changing coach, but it's also like the slightest piece of the puzzle. Like, who would have thought like getting a new coach would have unlocked not only just a better game style, but it looks like all the players have just been released from their like shages, really. They all have like a personality in it right now. Like they all have personality, they've got a bit of swag, and in the modern day world, you need to have a bit of swag. Yeah, I need to have a bit of a character.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I think as well, like that's the thing, like whether it's diet, whether it's sport, whether it's discipline. Yeah, I think some people think you can't have fun. You gotta have fun. Like, I think people do associate, I don't know if that's like a school thing, yeah, because teachers drill in, you can't have there's so much thing as too much fun, which I I disagree with. I don't think you can have too much fun, yeah. Like, so but I do think people think, oh, I'm meant to be miserable. Like, I'm meant to be a enjoyable.
SPEAKER_00It's like that teacher crowt, like, you can't have fun when you're learning, like why why not?
SPEAKER_01Watch me. But but but if you enjoy what you're doing, you naturally excel. And that's back to something you said earlier. Find out what you do well, find out, yeah. It's fascinating. Like when you see kids and you teach them, like I homeschool my kids, yeah. Some of the things they fucking hate, like one of them hates maths, one of them doesn't. Yeah, but when you correlate to the maths guy something that he enjoys, and then it becomes maths, yeah, he it changes the way he thinks because he loves Fortnite and playing games. Yeah, if I relay any question to a Fortnite like killstreak or how many, suddenly he doesn't realise he's good at maths because he's focused on the subject is Fortnite, so his brain's in a different mindset. Yeah, oh my god, yeah, you're talking about if I have 42 kills.
SPEAKER_00You're talking about something I know as well. You're talking about something he understands, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because time's tables, and like I was teaching him the other day that all you need to do is if you can count to 10 and you can times by two and divide by two, you can pretty much work out any mathematical equation. And it it like numbers scare him, but then like I was saying to him, okay, so say I had 40 kills in Fortnite, 42 kills, and I do that eight times, how many do it? And like suddenly his brain switched on and he was like bang straight into it. Oh yeah, yeah. But because you can twist it into something that he enjoyed the stigma of oh my god, I hate maths, I hate maths, I hate maths. Now it was like, Oh, I love Fortnite, yeah. And naturally I ascertain how many kills I have or how many deaths.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, this is fun though. Math is good, yeah. Yeah, I hated math in school. I wish someone did that with me, man. Fire out, math sucked. I'd drop math in like you're 10, bro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, you say, I mean, I remember how I got like I'm a bit of a maths nerd, right? I mean I love maths. I got into it from shopping. My nan used to uh budget, yeah, and she used to make me mentally work out how much we're spending. And the rule was always if I was within £1.50 of the total, yeah, she would give me the change that's sick, yeah. Of whatever's in a wallet, and it always used to be five pounds, which was a lot of money when I was like 10. Like it was a lot of money. Like my weekly allowance was 50p. Yeah, so I was like fucking quids in, I was like the richest kid in the house. But I was the coolest kid, yeah. And I just got really good at keeping memory and adding 75 pence to £1.16, and like my brain just started to associate if I'm good at this, I make money, yeah. And that's why I think that's where my love of maths came because it was fun, it could be like you got a reward at the end of it, yeah. And it like tricked my brain into seeing numbers as a reward. Where when I was at school, I didn't like it, but that's where my love came because I was like, Oh, I can make money out of this. That's actually smart, and then school became exciting because you learned different ways to calculate stuff, yeah. So like maths became fun at school because as my maths got better at school, I got even more accurate with money counting. So, like, yeah, you've got to trick your brain.
SPEAKER_00It's funny when you like relate something to something that you you enjoy, like actually like um you're saying like with the 4-9 math, like I remember I was in like with my mates, like it was lunchtime, and my mates would talk about the soccer trade that happened, like, and if you know me, I don't really know about soccer, and I'm and I and I said to him, explain it to me. He's like, let me explain it to you in football terms so you understand. And like I got it straight away. He's like, I forgot the comparison. He's like, Imagine if Patrick Cripps got traded to like Sydney for um one of them, and I was like, geez, that that works, okay. Thanks, bro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, look, golf coaching, one of the best things that my wife always used to laugh, because it works all the time, is to teach someone how to stand. If they're a guy, it's really easy. You just say, Imagine you're gonna piss on the golf ball, yeah, and the golf ball is a urinal. Yeah, and for some reason, natively every man will naturally stand the perfect way, and it's crazy. And how I learned to teach people that way is I had a six-year-old boy once I got him in the situation of how to hit a golf ball, yeah, and he was like, Oh, this is how I go for a wee at school, and I was like, hmm. And it it played in my mind all day, and then I remember like going to the toilet, and like I was like, Oh my god, I am in my golf stance. This kid's right, and then like I looked along at the other guy pissing me, I'm like, he's in a golf stance. This kid is a genius.
SPEAKER_00I could just imagine the bath and just go to everyone else. Yeah, because the one about standing like that. Oh, yeah, this works.
SPEAKER_01I would have looked like a creeper because I'd like Dan's like, fucking hell, he could hit the golf bowl. And then like I remember the way you teach it is feet slightly shoulder width apart, yeah, weight in the bulbs of your feet. And like, as I was having a wee, I'm like, oh my god, like I am in the golf stance. Like Start teaching people this way because it's five minutes of teaching but instinct in your brain. So sometimes you've got to flip it in there. Yeah. You've got to flip it how the brain works into something they understand.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That sometimes something complex can be taught in the most simple way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, 100%. Like we got that little um like we got something similar, like when we're teaching like boxing stance. It's like pretend you want to like kick a soccer ball. Because like when you kick a soccer ball, you you don't have you don't kick like you don't kick your back foot. So they're like, so anytime you tell a kid, pretend you pretend you're gonna kick a soccer ball, and they immediately like they run in their stance after they gap their feet, and I'm like, now say like that. They're like, oh that's that's cool. I'm like, well, there you go.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just don't now don't change it. Yeah, a hundred percent. And like it's it's weird, like that is a good way of teaching people because like when you find out what they're good at and what they're passionate at, it's crazy how many things are linked in life. Like 100%. Like I I I see golf in soccer, tennis, then I also see it in maths, like that's how I do it, and you know, you'll find new skills. So, like, I it's really funny. I was never very creative as a kid, yeah. And then when I got into YouTube, it was kind of I I realized that when I play golf, I like to well, I like to shape the ball without boring people at home, so I like to just randomly hit a high fade where the ball goes high left or right. Yeah, that's how I keep myself interested in golf. I I try and make it a little bit harder, yeah. I like to play extravagant shots.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I and I've always liked the creativeness around the greed, it's been my favourite thing. You don't realise because it's a sport that you are actually naturally artistic because no one's told you, oh, this is like art.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And that's when I got into YouTube. I really enjoyed it because it was creative, like it was, and then I actually saw the similarities to golf. Like I enjoy the process of golf, and I enjoy coming up with problems and answering the problems with a golf bowl. Now I'm doing it with word and video.
SPEAKER_00100%. Like, well, if you look at the comparison like between like you know, athletes, artists, and stuff like that, one thing they all have in common is you know, enjoyment for the process. Like, it's so true. Like, every every time you hear about like a great athlete talk, the first thing that got that comes out of their mouth is like, I used really enjoy the process. And they become so addicted to it, it's like they become like literally an artist in their own form. Like it's insane how how much how much time and effort goes into one thing to be perfection at it, you know?
SPEAKER_01And you work with kids as well, like boxing and stuff. You you'll see it. The worst people in the world are the parents that want their kids to be boxers. Because I'm sure you have it, like I have it when people bring me their kids and they're like, I want my kid to be a golfer, and they suddenly accidentally make the kid hate it because they don't make it fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, 100%, yeah, 100%. Or like they had this expectation of being a world champion before like anything's even happened. Like, first day in the gym, it's like real champion material, eh? I bet, like, okay, cool. But then like that that pressure becomes on the kid, and it's like the kids like almost forced to be and then you just see they just don't enjoy it. So it's almost like your job to be that have some fun with them, and you're the one that should be making it like a bit challenging and you know, teaching them the Boeing stuff. Instead, you're now trying to make it as fun as possible.
SPEAKER_01Oh which makes it a bit harder, but honestly, it's one of the craziest things. Like, it's something that I've learned as a parent. I I would love my kid to be a golfer. Yeah, I I've never pressured it, and it's like like sometimes like when he wants to play, super excited. I'm super excited, and I'm like, okay, cool, now I can teach you. But like that is the thing, like I think that's a journey for life. Yeah, when you find something you enjoy, like it's got to be harnessed and that it's got to be like encouraged, yeah. It can never be forced and expected. And back to your point at the start, it's the discipline is not the motivation, it's the discipline that comes from the enjoyment. The motivation for me is wanting to do it, yeah. And then you'll not always want to do it, and you'll not always have the same fight, but if you want to take something serious, the discipline overtakes the original motivation to learn to do it.
SPEAKER_00No, 100%. Like, you always view motivations, like the second you get the motivation, just go and do it. Because that motivation and not lasting that long. Like, you know, today, like I had like a really weird thing like this morning, because I usually do a bike session in in the morning, and instead I wanted to do like an E1 session at the park, which for those who don't know like E1 stands for is like every minute on the minute. So it's like you know, you do pull-ups, push-ups, you know, dips, and then leg raises, and you just keep doing that. Like, and I for some reason I was like really felt like doing that today. So I was like, I'm gonna go do that before in five minutes time I say to myself, I ain't doing nothing. So let's just quickly quickly go there. So like anytime you get motivation, just go go straight for it.
SPEAKER_01Oh 100%. Like I totally agree, and and that's probably the best time to create plans and things like that. Like yeah, like when you're in that headspace, like it's something that if you hate something, and we all go through it. Like I did golf for 20 years. Yeah, there was times that I hated it more than I loved it towards the end, because like it becomes your job. Like, that's the weirdest thing when a passion becomes your job. Yeah, yeah. But like, yeah, I you could I could never do anything productive if I was in that headspace of hating it. Like I had to wait until I was like, oh my god, golf. Yeah, and then that's when I'd write down we're gonna do this today, and this is what we're gonna do tomorrow. And this is because when I'm in the good headspace, yeah, the miserable me will follow the plan that the good headspace me did.
SPEAKER_00It's funny how that works, isn't it? Yeah, like when you're in that good headspace, mate, not thinking, it's like I call it the 3am motivation. Like you know when you randomly just wake up on like a random Monday and Monday night and be like, it's 3am, I'm gonna change my life on today. I'm changing my life. It's like you just bottle all that up. That's why you've got to do it as well. Yeah, you just gotta bottle it up.
SPEAKER_01Like as soon as that goes for your head, I'm gonna make my life better. That's when you start the planning. Plan now. Yes, and then be like, tomorrow I will follow this plan. Like, like I've started today, but I'm gonna follow the plan forever. Make her that commitment.
SPEAKER_00Someone I know, like they got that like random like 3 a.m. innovation, and they set an alarm literally for the for they had it on a Tuesday, so on the Wednesday they set the alarm literally 5am, going for a 12k run. And I'm like, did you actually go and do it? He's like, Yeah, but I hated it. He's like, 3 a.m. me, loved it, 5 a.m. me hated me. And I'm like, well, that's gonna happen, you know. You're gonna hate yourself for making you do it, but you're gonna love yourself also for making you go and do it.
SPEAKER_01Totally agree. You know what? I had one of those moments when I was eating my rice bowl last week, rice bowls. And I was like, I am sick of rice bowls. I I was really angry with them. I was like, I'm fucking sick of it. I'm really sick of it. And then like the next day happened, and I had this like weird motivation where I was like super excited about learning different different recipes, yeah. And I remembered miserable me over the rice, the mince bowl, and I was like, right, let's Google while I'm here. Yeah, and I'm about to go to the shops, different spices, and like I went and came back with like eight different fucking things, and I have enjoyed mince bowls since then. And I'd just like to thank positive Dan for that 10 minutes of being on the internet going, do you remember you hated the mince bowls yesterday? Like maybe we could look at some different flavours and some different like splits.
SPEAKER_00Split you sometimes, or you need like a little seasoning.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and like the next day when I was eating the mince bowl, I had that moment of, oh, I fucking hate this. But then I was like, oh wait, I've got that new like little spice on it. Let's try that. And I was like, oh, this is really good. Yeah, and I was like, Thank you, happy Dan, yesterday. Happy Dan's day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you've got to sometimes do it. Like we is I do think I tell my kids this all the time. It is so normal as a human being that you have highs and lows. Like, no one is like, woohoo!
SPEAKER_00But I had that with my oat bowl. I had like a literally similar situation. I was like, yeah, this opera is good, but like, bro, the same thing, ingredients, like can I have something different? Like, can I add something to this and make it like taste a little bit different? Because literally the only thing ingredients I have in it is protein powder, coconut water, and cacao powder. So I'm like, I need something new, give me something fresh here. So those protein bars that mum made that that you've tried, they are off the dick. I put that, I had mum. Right, I put those in my oat bowl. Oh my god. When I when I I literally had one bite, I dropped my spoon, I just slammed the table like that. I'm like, oh this is the best thing ever. Oh my this is goated.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so and and you know, you know what, you've got to take the moment because I do think like even if you're in the lowest place, like if you're watching this and you're in a lower place, you always have that one little moment of light, and that is the way I always believe you get yourself out of the darkness, and that's in sport, life, yeah, whatever it is. No matter how bad you feel, that you always have like five minutes of way fucking feeling good. That's when I try and focus on we're gonna avoid becoming bad by trying to be as productive as we can in this five minutes, write shit down, bro.
SPEAKER_00That five minutes where you have that positive mind space can set up your next five years. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like you like literally five minutes is all you need to change your whole entire life sounds crazy, but it can change your life, really. Five minutes. Like if you have five minutes of motivation and you go, that's it, I'm I'm I'm gonna fix everything up. That's what you sometimes all you need. You just need that five minutes.
SPEAKER_01I and you know, little things at the minute, like on the treadmill at the minute, I when when I set it to 12 and that's like sprinting, yeah. I I'm trying to test myself after 25 minutes, how long can I run at 12?
SPEAKER_00Late. Right?
SPEAKER_01How long can I run at 12 when I'm halfway through the session?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it's like little things, like little things, and like I write down the time, yeah, and it helps me when I get tired to see like that progression of time go from like one minute 25 to 4 minutes 42. Late, yeah. Like my brain goes, I remember when it was like one minute 25 and I was so proud I ran over a minute. I remember being tired and thinking, I got over a minute though. Like now I'm hitting four minutes. My brain is like, I remember when we were really happy with a minute, and now four minutes is normal.
SPEAKER_00That's why recording things is so important. Like this you can look back and be like, geez, like I was happy with that, but now I'm up to here, and like I want to keep getting better.
SPEAKER_01And like the other day, I was so tired looking at that one minute when I knew it was about the to the see how long we can go until we have to drop the time. Yeah, I just saw that one minute, and my brain just took me back to then. It's a reward, man. You were so proud. Yeah, and you're so tired now, and you can't be asked to do it. But you did this when you were even worse than you were then. We're gonna do it again because that guy who was at a minute would have been so proud of where you are now.
SPEAKER_00100%. You always do it for you know that past self, you know. You're like every session you do, you're doing it for your future self. Yeah, you know what I mean. You you because you know in like an hour's time it's gonna be done, but you know in an hour's time you're gonna feel so so good for doing it, and you're gonna be so proud, like you're looking back, and now like even just that getting getting and going, getting it done, it's like just a reward in itself. Like, you know, there's gonna be some days where you're like, Oh, I don't want to do it, but then an hour will go by, you've done it, and it'd be like, geez, remember like an hour ago I didn't actually want to do this, and I did it an hour. You what you're on four minutes now, you said uh so my I I sat actually set the record, it was five minutes twenty-eight. Five minutes twenty-eight.
SPEAKER_01Once I got over four minutes, I was like, I'm gonna do a minute for you being a little bitch and complaining about doing it. So the the evil me kicked in and was like, you have to give me five. So you've got me like six minutes and then like seven. For you about crying about it, so you made a miserable top. You quite threw it, just get done. You know what, actually, distraction time when I'm I know you don't watch shit when you're doing training. Yeah, I'm a bit bored there. I've been getting a little bit bored of music, yeah. So I've I've been going really extreme on the treadmill recently and watching videos. And you know what I've found the best way to do the treadmill. I've been watching people go into role-playing servers and ruin them. That's all we for some reason I love that content, bro. Yeah, I have no idea why this is the perfect gym video, but I I time flies. Like the other day, I did like 45 minutes on the treadmill. I didn't even realise. Yeah, bro, yeah. Like I was watching this guy and him just ruining people's day on Grandma Theft Auto roleplaying sessions.
SPEAKER_00Or GA roleplay. Oh, you don't want to mess around with GA roleplayers, bro. Like, I we went to packs once and there was like a group of them. Like, they all come in their groups, and they take this seriously. They take it seriously, like it's a full-time job. We went up to them and like, oh hey man, what what games do you play? They're like nowhere to buy, they looked at us, they're like this. We're role players, bro. Don't we're world players. And I'm like, oh, jump half over, like, gee. Come down, man. What do you what do you do? He's like, I'm the mechanic, all right? He's the car guy, all right? Over there's a firefighter. I'm like, there's firefighters in this thing? I'm like, damn, bro.
SPEAKER_01But honestly, change my gym game. Bro, it does. I'm telling you, just watching this guy like refuse to be arrested and shit like that, like telling him he can't be arrested, and like people get genuinely upset about it.
SPEAKER_00There's a line getting a missing.
SPEAKER_01Like, I honestly, like the other day, I did my it was like the hour, and honestly, like I ended the playlist, and I'm like, oh shit, I've been on this like 52 minutes, and I'm like, I've only got eight minutes to go. Like, my brain hadn't registered how long we'd done it because I was just watching the skies, just laughing on the treadmills.
SPEAKER_00These people are stupid. Oh, it's a funny situation, but honestly, try it.
SPEAKER_01This that's your challenge from POM this weekend. Start watching YouTube while you're training. Oh my god. Trick my brain. My brain doesn't register anymore that I'm doing it.
SPEAKER_00Because sometimes I do like if I'm on the treadmill, because treadmills become the most boring thing on earth, like really quickly. Like, I guess repetitive really quickly. So sometimes I do chuck on like a podcast and make time go by, but sometimes podcasts become really repetitive as well. So maybe I'll chuck on like a funny video.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I started using because I watched the time, yeah, and my mate told me to stop doing it because he was like, it'll kill you. Yeah, it like he was like, because you you don't realise how slow time passes you by.
SPEAKER_00Comparison's a thief of joint. No, don't time. Time is the thief of joint.
SPEAKER_01So I I've started putting my phone over the time. That's smart. So I've moved the the mobile phone holder so it actually covers it. So like I've naturally gravitate to the time, but now I see it, yeah, and now just happen to watch it. And it is actually quite a weird game because I'll move the phone as I'm running to lift it up, and it's shocking how quickly time passes when you're not watching time. Yeah, time flies when you're every fine time. Yeah, yeah, do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if I've got fitter or it's just because I don't know. Game fit up. You look and it's like 25 minutes has gone past, and you're like, What? Yeah, like my brain was like, Oh, that's two minutes. Yeah, like you've still got an hour to go, and it's like now your brain's going, Oh shit, we're halfway through. Like, and that there's like five minutes to go, it's like, that's gone. Do you know what I mean? Like my brain, and your brain's like, Oh, I'm not that tired, we can do this. Yeah, like, but yeah, honestly, watch YouTube like guys just taking the piss because uh the the guy I'm into at the minute is a Red Dead role player and Red Dead role player, and didn't know that existed. Yeah, these guys like honestly, if you think GTA guys are serious, yeah, Red Dead, they're even more serious.
SPEAKER_00I could imagine because Red Dead is a the people that play that take take the game seriously.
SPEAKER_01I'd like Red Dead, uh and some of them like pretend they're like in the 19th century as well. So like this guy's like wind up is he like mentions like modern day tech on and it's so good, it's so good.
SPEAKER_00Oh you know what's funny about that? Like they call it modern day tech while they're like a computer that's probably like four grand, bro.
SPEAKER_01But you that they proper role play properly, and like he starts mentioning like iPads and stuff, and these guys roleplay properly going, I'm not too familiar with what an iPad is. Bro, you're on like a four grand laptop, but what are you on about yeah, yeah, do you know what I mean? And I and he's asking them like, I have you got the OLED monitor? And they're like, I don't know what monitor is. That's the humble farmer.
SPEAKER_00That's brilliant. I like it's brilliant, but nah. But the personality piece in roleplay, oh my god, definitely.
SPEAKER_01Fair play if you roleplay. I I don't know how people do it though, like because some of them take it really like I had mates level 10.
SPEAKER_00I had mates, so we used to play siege a lot. Mid game, no red of the light, mid-game, he would stop playing. Like, we would be you know, one like 1v3. We need to win this game. He was he literally stopped. So no, I stopped. We're like, bro, we don't why you're not moving. He's like, and then we just hear clicking, and we're like, don't know. What are you doing? He's like, bro, someone's just sorry, someone's on my server being annoying. I have to have to deal with this. This is role player server. When I tell you, all we hear is shit talk from him to this other guy while we're mid-game. It's like, bro, can we just like focus on one game at a time? Why do you have that second tab open, bro? Like, close it. Mate, role-playing servers insane. That and Rust. If you're a Rust player, yeah, they take that game seriously too.
SPEAKER_01They they do take that serious, Daisy as well. Oh, Daisy. All them games, people anything that involves survival, people chill.
SPEAKER_00Serious, chill, chill.
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