Gospel Grandpas

Four friends started meeting at Chick-fil-A before sunrise to talk about the Bible, ask hard questions, and try to live what we say. Our wives joked that we sounded like grandpas debating the gospel at dawn, and the name stuck. What didn’t start as a content plan became a weekly rhythm of Scripture, prayer, and honest friendship that has genuinely changed us, so we decided to pull up an extra chair and invite you in.

We share the backstory behind each relationship and why these conversations hit so deep: Taylor’s dramatic conversion after growing up in church culture, Landon’s shift from surface-level involvement to real conviction, Jacob’s season of running from church and getting drawn back through break room Bible talks, and Dalen’s sobering self-examination after hearing Jesus’ warning in Matthew 7. Along the way, we talk about something we think the church desperately needs: loving disagreement. We come from different theological backgrounds, but we refuse to caricature each other, and we keep returning to a single anchor point: what does Scripture actually say?

We also lay out what you can expect from Gospel Grandpas: scriptural integrity, theological precision, a pastoral tone, and practical apologetics that help you give an account for the hope within you. If you’ve ever felt stuck in “going through the motions,” or you want deeper clarity on doctrine, discipleship, and real-world Christian living, join us at the table. Subscribe, share this pilot with a friend, and leave a review, then email us the topics you want us to tackle next.

Transcript

Welcome And How It Started

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Welcome to Gospel Grandpaws. We're glad you're here. This channel was born out of four best friends who started having breakfast every Saturday morning at Chick-fil-A years ago for the purpose to talk about the Bible and life in general. Our lives have been dramatically changed by these challenging, edifying, candid, and Christ exalting conversations ever since. Our wives began poking fun at the fact that we met at the crack of dawn to speak about the gospel like grandpa's, hence the name. Join us. Grab a Bible, pull up a chair on Gospel Grandpaws. I'm Landon. I'm going to be helpful facilitating the conversation as we go along. We're going to get started with a little bit of a pilot episode to hopefully introduce you to who we are and how this came to be and what we're all

Meet Taylor And His Conversion

SPEAKER_02 0:49

about here. And so to pass this off, I want to introduce one of the first members of our conversation here, Taylor. Taylor and I became really best friends years and years ago and kind of became one of the first pairs in this group and I started developing a real relationship about 15 years ago, and it's it's just grown from there. And through this, you'll see we've got multiple different one-off conversations and relationships that have formed this group. So I'm going to let Taylor introduce how that came to be and we'll go from there. So, Taylor.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

My name's Taylor, everybody, and glad to be with you. Very excited about what the Lord's going to do here on Gospel Grandpa's. So, like Landon said, years ago at a local church here in town, Landon and I had been in the same youth group, and he's a couple years younger than me. And so he and I had been on a church camp team together growing up in the youth group, and that's I think maybe how we met. Is that right, Landon? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we met church camp, maybe my senior year and your sophomore year. Sophomore year, yeah. Yeah. Of high school camp. And then we ended up doing college ministry together years later.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

And we actually ended up reconnecting. We we had been friends, but we didn't talk a whole lot for several years and then reconnected a couple years later.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Yeah, exactly. And so there had been there had been a gap there, and so they the guys who had started running the college ministry, local college ministry here in town, had reached out to me and asked me to do some teaching for them, and so that's kind of how we reconnected. And Landon, you've you've been there from the beginning, it feels like from the beginning of my story, all the way back. You're one of the few people that knows me before I was saved, man. That's that's pretty crazy that that I still have contact with, at least, you know. So a little bit about me. I was raised here in town, grew up at local church, same church we're talking about, you know, church born in the pew, multi-generational family in church, involved lots of, you know, sort of church sort of Christianity, church ease, sort of normal stuff that you hear all the time in evangelical circles. And was a false convert, I guess would be the easiest way to say that. Baptized, yeah, yeah, as a young man and came to faith in a dramatic way at about 17 years old when the Lord actually saved me and knocked me off my horse, so to say, like the Apostle Paul, and everything has been different since. So you you're one of those few people. So, but you need to tell them about yourself.

Landon’s Faith Gets Real

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Yeah, I am Landon and I grew up here at the same church as Taylor. Started going to church, didn't really go to church much before about seventh grade. Before that, we my family didn't go to church regularly for sure, and much at all before that. And I'm the oldest of four boys, and we started going to church more regularly, and we uh just started getting involved in the youth group, and that's where I met people like Taylor and others, and developed a lot of good friendships there. And as time went along, I realized that what I had been doing was meeting people and sort of getting plugged in, but I I I didn't really ever get real deep in what I believed or what I understood until years later. Once once I made that connection and once that started happening, things really changed for me as far as my faith and what I believed, and and that really is where the story takes off for me.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

And I think that college ministry changed both of us. Yeah. Yeah. You know, in a way that was maybe not present for both of us in different ways. You know, I think being able to serve together for the gospel really helped us clarify what was what was really important.

SPEAKER_02 4:56

Yeah, one thing also that was really cool to me in that when we got involved in that college ministry opportunity, it was it it's one thing to feel it for yourself and to know it for yourself. But when once you really start trying to share it with others or guide others along in that process, it it really changes how you understand it and what it means to you. And so us getting to do that together through that, I think was big for me. I'm sure it was for you too.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

It was. It was it was huge. You know, one of the things I want to say before we continue talking through all of this and the progression is just how much it's meant to me, your support over the years. You know, I wanted to thank you for that because we've it feels like we've been in this side by side for a long time.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

Yeah, that that goes both ways. I think both of us have really benefited, and that's what we're gonna see throughout the course of these podcast episodes as we talk more and more, however many episodes we do, that that's gonna come out in each of these relationships and just how much we've learned from each other individually and in pairs in different ways and as a group. And I think that's one of the big goals and and one of the big things we hope to

Jacob Joins The Break Room Talks

SPEAKER_02 6:10

do here. But why why don't you talk about Dalen and Jacob and how y'all's relationships came to be?

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Yeah, so I'm a teacher, and so years later, this is in the timeline here with Landon, this is oh man, four or five years, I don't know, something along the lines. I start working here at a local hospital, transporting patients on the weekend for extra money. And dad helped me get a job there. And so in and I don't know if you remember it this way, just feel free to chime in, Jacob. But you know, from what I remember. Yeah, right, right. As as I recall, you know, our break room was a cast full of really, really interesting, really let's use that word, interesting, uh very colorful characters. There you go. Colorful characters, right? People who were from all different walks of life, not the church folks uh that we, Landon, had been inundated with at the the large church that we've always been a part of growing up up to this point. And so this is after the college ministry, this is years later, and I'm working this job, and in walks Jacob transport, and really, I can't point to a specific moment, but I remember multiple times me and you kind of sitting at that table, and we just kind of like started talking about the Bible.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Yeah, I think what really got Jacob, everybody talking. Yeah, first of all, just a little bit about myself. I'm Jacob. I am a local worship pastor and on staff full-time at a church here that my parents founded, and just a quick background about me. I was basically born behind the pulpit. I am a pastor's kid, and all the things that typically go along with the pariah of being a pastor's kid are pretty much true about me now at this stage. I wouldn't have said that a while back, but definitely I think I had my I sowed my wild oats a lot later than most pastors' kids, which is sad to be honest. But I do want to say that at this time in my life, I was not in a good place. Despite the fact that I asked my mom about Jesus when I was five years old, had an interest in that and believed that I became a Christian then, you know, all these years, I kind of took what I was raised in for granted, right? And so, which is a complete subject that could get us way off topic. So I that's all I'm gonna say about that right now. But at this point in my life, I was really living for myself, making choices that only benefited me and hurt a lot of people in my life, and that's all I'll say about that testimony as well for the moment. But praise God for his redemption, his restoration, for Jesus' blood that washes us absolutely clean.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

But let's get back to the into this moment that you're that you're picking up on here, right?

SPEAKER_03 9:08

Because when I came to work at the hospital, it was to run away from the church and everything I'd ever known. Honestly, I was trying to find something else.

SPEAKER_04 9:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

And I remember when I walked in for my interview, I saw you on the elevator. And I didn't know if you remember this or not. You you tell me all the time, but tell the audience. Dude, I go into the elevator, I'm about to go up to the sixth floor for my interview, and I noticed you. I noticed you were dressed in the uniform that all the transport people wear. And so I I introduced myself. I'm like, hey man, I'm Jacob. I was like, you know, I'm about to come work here, and and you just looked at me like I couldn't care less. I don't give a crap. He probably felt that way, honestly. Oh, I guarantee you he did. I think he's even admitted that to me. I still feel that way. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But yeah, so we got to know each other past that point, and and we're really had a very light relationship, I should say, where we were joking around, you know, having fun together, whatever. But what I remember, and this is comes back to what you were talking about, when we would start talking, there was a particular co-worker that we had that I had known, you got to know, and he was starting to ask questions, and you guys were discussing a lot at that time. I forgot about this, and and I was just sitting in there listening because again, I was trying to run away from everything I knew at that point. I didn't want to have anything with those discussions because I didn't want to face what was inside of me. Does that make sense? It does. And it's true, and I remember one day in specifically, and I don't remember what the subject was, but what I remember is you turned to me and you're like, Well, Jacob, what do you think? Because you knew that I had I had told you enough that I had been a youth pastor. Yeah, right. That I was, you know, a worship leader.

SPEAKER_04 11:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 11:12

And you're like, Well, hey, what do you have to say on this topic? I'm interested to hear what you have to say. And I was kind of like, I don't have anywhere to run, I don't have any transports to go to, so I'm kind of stuck. I'm gonna have to, and so I so that's when I answered your question and I became involved in the conversation. And it was like from that point on the three of us really would discuss a whole lot, and then when that coworker wasn't there, some of our other coworkers might have a question, or we might have discussions with them, but it always seemed that you and I were the ones sitting at the table talking, no matter who else might have come in and out. And

The Podcast That Drew Jacob Back

SPEAKER_03 11:53

I just remember specifically there came a time, and I don't want to belabor the point, but there became there came a time when you brought up the subject of, hey, we should do a podcast, man. These discussions are awesome. We should do a podcast, which is not this podcast. No, it was a podcast a few years ago at this point called The Pastor and the Schoolmaster, which we did. I think we live streamed on Facebook. It's yeah, out in the ether, if you want to go look it up. There's there is some good stuff in that, which we'll probably rehash in a lot of these episodes that we record, but I wanted nothing to do with it, but I didn't feel like I could say no. And and it was like I I admitted, well, I not admitted, but I committed to doing it, and as much as I didn't want to have anything to do with it, I was just putting my best foot forward, I was putting on that mask of what I knew I should do. And that's real, you know what I'm saying? It's true. And and it was in that, it was in doing that podcast that was a huge part of my restorative journey back to where I am now. Amen. Which again, I'm a full-time employee of the church again, and on pastoral staff, on the worship team weekly, yeah, and actually more solid, more in love, more solid in the word, more in love with Jesus, and more passionate about spreading the gospel to the world than I've ever been before. And that's only been growing over these last.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

And I can 100% testify to that in the time I've known you. That's 100% true, you know.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

Same here. Yeah. And I think that's a really cool point about how God can use those situations, obviously for his glory, that's what it's all about. But but use those conversations to change us in such a way that we grow deeper in in love. And in some of those situations, people in those run away because they don't think that they're worthy. They don't think that they could ever measure up after something, you know, a whatever situation comes up like that. Absolutely. But some people take that as an opportunity to dig in and deepen their faith and really grow closer. And I I admire you so much for taking that approach.

SPEAKER_03 14:16

But it's like Taylor became the well that swallowed me as I was running. You know what I'm saying? And and our conversations is not quite and our conversations they were it was holding up a mirror to my soul. That's the thing that I have to say about our discussions about when we started the podcast back then that really, really had an impact on me because it was I was having to answer deep theological questions that Taylor was pounding me with, I should say. Pounding like a hammer. Yeah. And and I was having to look within my own soul to truly face what I had always proclaimed or was raised thinking I believed, thinking I believed, that I was trying to run away from. Yeah. And then when I was faced with them, I had to work it out in my own soul and receive the engrafted word of God that was in there, which became my salvation.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

If that if you can track with

Loving Disagreement Grounded In Scripture

SPEAKER_01 15:28

that. And can you talk about also in this, and I don't know if you're gonna get to it or not, but can you speak to the fact that our podcast and our relationship then and even now has always been on built on in part loving disagreement? Oh, yeah. Right? Like, I mean, that that's really important because it'll come out in the podcast, right? There's gonna talk about that if you want.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

Well, I mean, without getting too heavily into it right now, we're obviously theologically from different backgrounds. Yes. And I'll I'll just tell you guys I'm I'm charismatic, and I'll let Taylor talk to you about his background at another point when he feels it's necessary. But so we were definitely on different sides of the fence on a lot of these issues, and it was never an argument type of thing. Neither one of us was trying to persuade the other. That's what I think is the most amazing thing about our relationship and the way that the Lord brought us together is that it never was about, well, dude, you're wrong for what you believe, or you should believe this way, or what about it was always from a position of trying to understand how did you come to that conclusion and what makes you believe that. Yeah, why do you stand on that platform right there? Yeah. And I think the thing that we both, and I'm speaking for myself, but I guess I'm speaking for you too. I think the thing that we both love the most is that we always pointed back to scripture. Yes. Whether or not we agreed on the topic, it was well, from what I can tell from this verse right here, this is what I believe has been revealed to me. And and that's it is that point of okay, well, if I've gained this knowledge or understanding from the word of God, it's the decision to say, I take that as my own, and I'm going to live my life out according to that belief that caused us to really fall in love with the d the discussions we were having.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

One thing I'll say on that point, it the way that you guys both were able to approach that and say we may not agree on on that, but tell me what you believe and why you believe it, and help me understand it, and I'll do the same. And the way that you guys were able to hold that intention and both of you point back to ground zero, the gospel, and point back to Christ, I think has been extremely beneficial for both of you. And I'll say, as third party testimony, it's been really cool for me to watch both of you do that because I've learned a lot, and I think others would say the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Oh, yeah, I mean I can attest to that even just a short.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

It's been huge for me to sit kind of as an outsider, if you will, and watch you guys kind of chew on those pieces from two different sides of the of the court here and have those conversations. It's been beneficial to others around you uh just as much as watching you guys transform from it.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

It's very rare. It's a very rare quality and capacity for two people. I mean, you and I have said this before, Jacob, but you had never really met somebody like me, theologically speaking. Right. And I'd never really met, I I had listened to things and watched videos and read books, and but I didn't have friends that came from maybe some of the positions that you held. Right. And and vice versa. So I I think that's one of the things that the audience will hear, and praise God for that, that the audience will hear two brothers lovingly disagreeing about things and rallying about the essentials, right? You know, and like all of us, we're all all four different men with four different backgrounds and upbringings and and even views. If you get down into the weeds, none of us hold the same views technically about most everything.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

Yeah, and it's especially in in places where you and I grew up, it's so easy for us to get in our rut in our one lane on what we believe, and that's the only place there is. Yeah, we don't ever look outside that. We've got our blinders on. You could take that a step further, and a lot of people, especially in our circle, are are guilty of caricaturing other people outside of instead of really stepping outside and figuring out well, what do they believe in? Why do they believe that right, exactly? And that's that's one of the organic things that's been really cool here to to see that.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

From the very beginning, the Lord ordained our friendship. For sure. You know, and protected it from in two people who had been in two very different places. Both who led and taught a ministry, right? Like college and youth at that point, who were neither of us doing it at that point. Right. Right? Like just two guys. Just two guys in a place that we didn't exactly know how we found ourselves there. Yeah. Exactly. And here we are together. And so

Meeting Daylan Through Church Ministry

SPEAKER_01 20:33

go ahead. Well why don't you talk about how you met Dalen? Yeah, so the last piece of the puzzle, right? The last piece of the puzzle, Dalen. That would be I left the I left the hospital in 2020, December of 2020. And this would be spring of 2022. Dalen was serving on staff at a local church and as a worship leader. This is something you guys share in common. Still still share in common.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

And they hired me on as youth pastor at this church. And so Dalen and I got to know each other and became, you know, theological and ministerial co-belligerents at this church. That's a theological term.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

I think it starts I think it started off as one was belligerating the other, but take it away. Take it away, Dalen. Tell them about yourself. That's how it always started. Tell them about how I abused you. Join the club.

unknown 21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

Yeah. So so Taylor is, you know, the Lord's hammer for a reason. And and what I mean, what he was saying was right. You know, we were we were serving on staff together and everything, but you know, we we got to have some theological conversations that that I had never really had before. You know, I I was one of those like like you know, several of these other guys I had grown up in church and have been exposed to church things my whole life. Life, but never really considered some of these things for myself. And Taylor challenged me in that area and he really pushed me to figure out what I really believed in and what I came up with. Actually, I remember he had preached uh he was filling in for the pastor one day and he preached a sermon on you know Matthew 7 and and whether or not you're saved, you know, like with the Lord saying, Depart from me, I never knew you. And that really hit home with me, and I I got to thinking, and you know, I sort of realized that I looked a lot like the person that the Lord would say, Depart from me, I never knew you. And I got to thinking, what can I say about my life has has changed, you know, since I s supposedly got saved at the age of six and baptized thereafter and everything, and and the answer was was nothing. And so, you know, I I truly believe that the Lord used Taylor to to bring me to himself. And yeah, and and recently I've gotten the opportunity to join these guys and their friendship, and I'm kind of the newcomer and sort of the quiet one, and only speak when I need to, but there's two of us in that camp.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

One of them's the MC.

unknown 23:16

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

But I promise you, audience, you're gonna want to hear from Dalen. Uh he's got a lot of wonderful things to say. And and you are, I referenced this earlier, Dalen. You are a worship leader in town as well. Is it a different church, but you're at a worship leader, so I want to just remind people we all play these different roles, you three play different important roles, you know, in the local church and are are part and parcel of what they do every week, right? You guys are right in the fray, serving the Lord. And so we're not just four bums talking about the Bible, right? You guys are I may be, but you guys are are are serving the Lord, you know, you are and his people.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

So well, and I think that's uh a lot of what's great about you know our our conversations we get to have is because we do get to see, you know, we we talk about these theological concepts and everything, but we see in practice how they play out and the implications that they have, especially especially, you know, sometimes when the wrong thing is taught or or something like that. We a lot of times we're on the front lines of seeing the consequences of that.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Yes. We talk about these things and our different perspectives and our different backgrounds. Taylor, you mentioned that three of us have pretty significant roles in ministry right now, but you've got quite a bit of experience in ministry. You don't have a specific role right now, teaching or leading of any sort, but you've had several roles in the past. You taught a college Bible study early, early on before any of this started, and then you and I had the college ministry leading opportunity that did for us what it did, and then you had kind of a break, and then got involved as a college. I mean, uh you got involved as a student youth pastor, a student pastor, something you said you'd never do. Right. All the while you're pursuing a doctorate, right? Yeah, yeah. So and so that all of those different perspectives has given you a really peak behind the curtain of the local church as well. And and that'll come out too as we have more of these conversations. But all three of us come from different theological backgrounds and different, you know, pieces, but we all involved in serving a local church, and that's one thing that I really want to emphasize as we go forward and get this podcast started. What we're doing here now is not affiliated with a local church specifically, but we really, really believe in the local church and the importance that it has in furthering the gospel. Absolutely. And so as we talk about the reason for why we exist, what are we doing

The Chick-Fil-A Booth Vision

SPEAKER_02 25:53

here? We want you to picture this conversation, these conversations that we have on Saturday mornings at a Chick-fil-A. We talk about four old guys, I said in the intro, four old guys that are just having coffee shop conversations in a booth at Chick-fil-A, and the impact that they've had on our life. What we want to do is hopefully give the listener a peek inside that booth as if they're sitting right there next to us, so that they can benefit from some of these conversations. And I think it kind of hit us several weeks ago that we've had so many deep, helpful conversations for all four of us that helped us, but could have helped so many other people. And I think that's really kind of how this podcast was born. You want to speak to that a little bit?

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Yeah, man, so much to say. I'll try to keep it short. Yeah, as we've been, as I say we, as the Lord has been putting together this super team, and that's how I refer to you guys at my house, you know, the super team of the perfect people at the right time in the right ways with the right giftings for such a time as this. We say that a lot, but the Lord has ordained, like Landon saying all of that to the point that, you know, Saturday mornings are my favorite time of the week, maybe. I mean, my very favorite time of the week. I think it's important for the audience to know that this is, like Landon said, it's born out of what we're doing as we are applying theology and scripture to our lives. We're we're having these personal, true, heart-wrenching, honest, genuine, sometimes painful conversations. Really, sometimes deeply personally painful conversations. And and the nature of the podcast is a little different because we're discussing something to edify the audience. But these are these are real friendships with real people. These are not four guys that stumbled together and said, Hey, you want to do a podcast? Hey, do you know Jesus? That's not what this is, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:55

We've been walking out life together for years at this point through these discussions, iron sharpening iron, making each other, edifying each other through the word of God. And yeah, absolutely. I think it's really important for just to double down on the listener understanding that this is born out of proven walking with Christ through the Word and with each other.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

It is Jacob, you mentioned in your intro and talking about how you and Taylor met this idea that you guys were sitting just in a break room and taking Taylor and this other guy were having conversations and you were listening, and the Lord really used that to kind of nudge you, and then eventually got you involved in those conversations. But another thing that I want to press on here is the just the impact that others around us hear our conversations. And it's obviously see the way we live our lives, but as we're talking these things out, we've seen so many people come into Chick-fil-A who have stopped and said, Oh, I heard you guys are are talking about the Bible. I just want you to know that I'm glad that I witnessed that, or different things that they've mentioned, or others who never said anything to us, but I'm sure they overheard what we were talking about.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Well, sometimes I can't help but hear, right? Yeah, exactly. We get pretty loud and boisterous, but not, I mean, because we're passionate. We are. We mean what we say. When you when you're passionate about the truth, right, you're you're gonna make it known. Yeah, but I wanted to say we've got so there's a few different people who not just hear us, but they come in consistently themselves, and it's like they wave at us every time they walk in the door, and so it's like even though they're not a part of our conversation, they're there almost every week, yep, and probably overhear quite a bit of what we have to say. So anyway, just to your point.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

We're also going to talk about in a couple of future episodes talking about pain and talking about demons and other things. We there's some other folks who have come into Chick-fil-A who have been in difficult times or been struggling, and we've had the opportunity to talk with those people, especially some of them who may not be believers or maybe really going through something hard. And through our consistency there in that booth and our regular conversations and the nature of that, we've had the opportunity to share with some people who may not have ever run across the gospel. And I hope and pray that that that is also another effect that comes out of this podcast, that it it reaches people who uh may have never had an opportunity to run across the things that we're talking about here. And so that's that's one of the things we really just want to emphasize as we get started here, the impact that has. But that that's the whole reason why we're doing what we're doing. Yeah. So you you mentioned earlier a few goals that we have, some things that we want to accomplish. You really kind of talked about it in a bullet point form.

Four Commitments For The Show

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Could you just touch on those really quickly? On yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

So, you know, we in the past, uh, with the pastor and the schoolmaster and the podcast that I've done myself, Gospel Grit by Myself, you know, they're they they've been very targeted at certain things and maybe even certain groups or demographics with this because we're bringing what has been a huge, tremendous blessing for our lives to you. That's the goal, is to pull you up a chair in our conversations with four people, again, like we just said, that are not disembodied voices behind a microphone, right? These are real people, uh, and we really try to live what we're saying, right? We we try to call each other out on uh inconsistencies and the things that maybe even hypocrisy and so we're accountable to each other. Yeah, what we're trying to do is, and we talk all the time, not just about the podcast or on Saturday mornings. We text all the time, we're in communication almost daily. You know, one of the big things I want, and I I think we maybe I'm probably speaking for all of us. I want this to have a sense of scriptural integrity, right? I want us to what this has always been built on with the gospel grandpa's breakfast, if you want to call it that, has always been, yeah, it's always been pointing people back to the scriptures, like you said. We talked about this, even from differing views, differing perspectives. It's always what does the Bible say? This room is full of Bibles. We've got Bibles everywhere, we've got Bibles on us all the time. We quote verses and try not to do so cheaply. We believe the scripture is inspired and inerrant and infallible. We believe, all four of us, we believe that it is the inspired without error word of God. They are the words of God. We believe that deeply and sincerely. We want to have a sense of theological precision. We want to, even if we disagree, we want this group and what you hear when you hear us talk to have clarity in what we're saying and the outworking of that. We want to be able to have an application of apologetics. And that's both positive and negative. We've gotten really good at that, boys. I don't know that you guys understand that all the time. We have gotten as a group, we've gotten better at apologetics. We sharpen as iron sharpened sign. We've sharpened each other. We want to make an apologetic for the Christian faith. We want to give an account of the hope that is within us. First Peter 3:15. We want to do that, right? I know all four of us in this room, we care very deeply about people coming to Christ. We love the Great Commission. We believe Matthew 28 is the goal of the church, right? We we believe those three things. And lastly, I would say, you know, our podcast, at least from the the sort of meta sort of 30,000 feet up view would be we want to have pastoral, uh, a pastoral tone. Let me say it that way. Right? So scriptural integrity, uh, theological precision, a pastoral tone, and an apologetic application. Yeah, those are not written down. I just remembered them. Right. They're recorded, and so they're gonna hold us to them, right? So those four things, which we already do, but those four things I think will transform the life of you guys who are listening this, as long as we're biblically faithful. Yeah, right. And that and that the Holy Spirit is using what we're doing, uh, and we believe he will.

SPEAKER_03 34:30

So that's hopefully we'll never just spout off at the mouth something that we can't back up or explain properly, at least with uh enough clarity for the listener to understand what we mean.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

And the goal is we'll we'll call each other out on the time.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

That's part of organic conversation that just happens as it goes along. I think we've done a point. Let me get this straight.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Yeah. Let me get this straight, buddy.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

No, no, no, you need to explain that a little bit more. Say that one more time.

Praying For Open Eyes And Ears

SPEAKER_03 35:01

I would like to say that one of my personal goals would as I was thinking about this over the last couple of days, getting ready for us to do this, was that it would open eyes that are closed. Amen. And that what they what the listener hears would open ears that are shut off currently. Yeah. That the Holy Spirit would use anything that we say or any scripture that we share to speak to the right person at the exact moment they need it, and bring clarity, not just clarity of understanding of what we're trying to say, but bring clarity to the heart of the believer.

unknown 35:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

And that they'll be, you know, washed by that water of the word. But anyway, that that specifically in me, that's what I've been really meditating and thinking on a lot lately, is open the eyes that are closed, open the spiritual ears that are currently shut off. Yes. That's what I've been praying over our church weekly over the past few weeks. Really believe the Lord laid that on my heart as a as a burden of prayer for our church people specifically for anybody who watches our live stream specifically. But, you know, I'm extending that obviously to you guys and the churches and ministries y'all are involved in, obviously, and our podcast. Right. So anyway.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

And maybe there's people who are kind of like where Dalen and I both uh were at different points in our lives where we we were kind of going along with the status quo, and both of us were I would cons would have considered myself saved and Dalen too, but Yeah, and that's really the most dangerous place to be. It's an extremely dangerous place, and and honestly, that is that describes what we use this term, the run-of-the-mill Christian. Taylor and I talk all the time about some of the places we've been in our journey and just other places we've observed and and just so many people that we run across who are we believe to be believers and kind of going along through life. But when you really break it down, their life doesn't look a whole lot different than someone who's unsaved, or maybe they could stand a little to dig a little deeper. And one of the things I'll say about Taylor, and I think a lot of us would echo this, that he's caused us, if nothing else, to dig a little deeper and understand a little deeper and figure out okay, we've heard these things in church all the time, but why do people say these things? Are these things really true? Why why are these things true beyond, well, the Bible says so? Exactly. Digging in and understanding a little deeper.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Not just do you know it, but do you behold it? Right.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

And so hopefully there's there's some listeners who will come across this content and say, Yeah, I've I've heard that all along, but maybe I should dig in and study it for myself. We really want to ignite a desire for God's word, a desire for the gospel, more so than you know, maybe what people have currently. So I think that really kind of outlines, we've done a really good job outlining what we're all about, where we want to go with this thing, a little bit about

Send Topics And Connect With Us

SPEAKER_02 38:26

ourselves. And so really what we would ask as we kind of land the plane on this first episode is send us some ideas on what maybe you want to hear from us. We're gonna be having gospel conversations. Our name is Gospel Grandpa's it's just four guys sitting and having conversations about the gospel. That's what we're all about, and that's really the goal. That's what we want to stick to as much as possible. So if you have topics that you want to hear us address, if you have things that you don't necessarily understand and you want to hear hashed out and and you want us to have a conversation about these things, send them to us. We've kind of set up a little landing spot. It's a Gmail account. We've got gospel grandpaws at gmail.com. That's really probably the best way for you to reach out and interact with us. We'll be monitoring that site and we're gonna be setting up other social media platforms as we go along. We're also gonna get this podcast out on various platforms, Apple Podcasts and Spotify and maybe a few other places. We've also got a YouTube page, it's at Gospel Grandpaws. So check us out on all of these places as we grow and as we develop. What we want to do is give uh real meaningful content that is beneficial for the listener. And so if you have those thoughts or ideas, send them our way and we can address them. We're gonna put a wrap on this first episode. Again, we really want to emphasize just this idea of sitting and having real, genuine, organic conversations for the betterment of others and for the edification of each other, and ultimately for the glory of Christ.