Translating The Bible Metaphysically

A powerful conversation on reframing the Bible as a tool for consciousness, not control. We break down how to interpret scripture metaphysically, release limiting belief systems, and use these teachings to awaken, heal, and step into your purpose with clarity and sovereignty.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome back to Break Free. I'm Kristen Shea, and I'm super excited to share with you my guest, Amy, today, who does metaphysical translations of the Bible. So welcome, Amy. I'm so excited to have you.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Of course, of course. Um, I discovered you on TikTok um maybe six or seven months ago, and I just fell so in love with all of your content because you have this really beautiful way of translating the Bible metaphysically in a way that I think most people can understand and see a totally different perspective. So I'm such a fan of what you do on TikTok and all of your content.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

Yeah, of course. Um, so before we jump in, I want to get into all the metaphysical um Bible translations, but I want to learn a little bit more about you and share with the audience because as you know, my work is all around visibility and stepping into your purpose. And I think that's a really inspiring journey for people to understand. So can you share a little bit with us about your background and kind of what brought you into sharing this content?

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Sure. Um well, I have three daughters. Um, I've always my life's always been centered around my family. And I've been married for 30 years, and I never had any interest in the Bible. Yeah. Um, ever. And I was born in Utah, and most people know there's a Mormon culture here. I've gone back and forth in that, but something just never felt right. And about 10 years ago, um, I started trying to have a different view on things. Um instead of looking at things like everything's against you, yeah, um, which a lot of us are programmed to feel that way, I started looking at things, everything is working in my favor. God uses everyone as a link in the chain of my good. And I started listening to people like Florence Scovel Shin, a little bit of Abraham Hicks, and everything in my world started turning. And then about 10 years ago, I started spiritually waking up, I guess you'd say, not in a religious way, um, but trying to make a connection with God, with source. And I started being shown that the Bible was meant to be translated metaphysically. And in March of last year, I had a kundalini awakening and was shown that I needed to get on TikTok and kind of start talking about this to make people aware because the religions have used the Bible from what I've been shown to control people and keep people in fear. And the Bible is basically about consciousness, it's about overcoming the ego and coming back in alignment with source, with God, the God of everything.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Yeah. Wow. So that's so interesting that it was in March that you had your Kundalini awakening and it was like get on TikTok because March of 2024, just one year earlier than that, is when I got the message to get on TikTok. Um, so that's so interesting around that time, and that's also around like the astrological new year.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

And that's just what I was gonna say. It's the real new year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

So for anybody listening, if you're not on TikTok and you're feeling that call, March is the time to do it because it feels like that's that's when you're that new year starts, and there's that extra little cosmic support to help us with that. So wow, that's really interesting. So you had no religious background. I mean, it was there and in the vicinity of where you grew up and lived, but yeah, um, you weren't into brought into that world at all until that awakening.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

No, we had gone back and forth into the Mormon church because it's so big, hearing something just never felt right, it always felt off. It did not, I never felt a connection to God with the church, and so and it's it's a pressure here in this community.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Wow, wow, if you're not I can imagine, I can imagine. Um, how did you with like sus withstand that pressure? What did that feel like?

SPEAKER_01 4:07

It was hard growing up. You're ostracized here, like they're really yeah, I don't know what the word I would use to say, but they are not loving towards people that are not involved with the church. And I would say that's probably 75% of the members that I've dealt with, and I've lived all over the state in what they would call the wards, um, just in different neighborhoods, and you are not treated the same as if you're not attending the Mormon church.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

Yeah, that must have been hard to be ostracized in that way.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Yeah, it it's it's not a comfortable thing, but you just learn to deal with it.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Yeah. Well, and it also kind of sounds like preparation in some ways for what you're doing now, because of course there will be people who don't understand or people who probably push that information away. So in some ways, it probably also prepared you to like stand in your light and in your power in a lot of ways, too.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Yeah, definitely. I think it probably did.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Yeah. What was your visibility journey like? So I know you got that message like, oh, I've got to, I've got to translate the Bible, I've got to get on TikTok. What was that first video for you like?

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Oh, it was scary. It was scary. I have never wanted to be seen ever in my life. And I think when God tells you to do something, you listen, and if you don't, you end up like Jonah from the Bible and facing the darkness until you come into alignment.

SPEAKER_02 5:33

Yes, you knew you knew better. And so, did it take you a long time to make that first video?

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Yeah, it to get up the courage to do it. It was really scary for me. Yeah, and I I go back and look at the videos when I started compared to now. It's like I want to delete them all, but it's just like, okay, it'll help someone, it'll help someone else some more.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

Totally. Oh my gosh, I totally resonate with that because my first TikTok video was less than two minutes and it took me five and a half hours.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

Because I kept freezing, or I would get like halfway through and I'd be like, What am I even talking about? Like there was so much fear. And then even once I was done recording, I was like, This is awful. I didn't want to look at myself, I didn't want to hear like all of those things.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Yeah, it's a scary thing to put yourself out there when you've never like I've never wanted to be visible. So it was it was a different thing. It's like, what is going on? Why am I being asked to do this?

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Yes, and not just get visible, but with spirituality and with like this other concept that clearly there's a lot of people, even just around you, would not be open to this.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

So that no, it's definitely not a mainstream thing, right? It's you know, I think more people are waking up every day, but it's yeah, it's not something that most people have in their reality right now.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

Right, right. Since posting and like kind of stepping into this calling that God had for you, how do you feel like your life has changed?

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Oh, unbelievable. Everything just feels like it flows so easily now. And I think when you come into alignment and you come and you fulfill your purpose that you came here to do, yeah, your whole world changes.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

It does. It does. It's like the scariest and the hardest thing to do because it's like such a barrier to entry, right? Those massive fears. But I agree with you. It's like once you do that, it's just like these gateways open.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

And life just gets to be so much more simple. It doesn't mean there's not still, like we were kind of talking about before we started recording, the hard days or the difficulties, like we're constantly, you know, purifying ourselves and and raising up in consciousness. And so it's like there's those hard days, but it does feel like when you step into your purpose and you truly fully align with it, it really feels like the gateways open in a different way and life changes.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

It does. I think you're able to navigate it the hard things when they come easier, totally, and be more of the observer and kind of step back and okay, this is happening emotionally. How are you going to deal with it?

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Are you going to be the observer and walk on water? Because emotions from the Bible are water, right? And are you going to keep your emotions in control? Yeah. And just it gives you a different way to deal with it.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

Absolutely. Yeah, it does. And I feel like you have more energetic resources available to you to do it too, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Amazing. Well, I want to dive in now to the biblical part and the metaphysical translation. Cause like I said, I'm just so obsessed with all of your content. Um, and I was like, from the day I saw your content, I was like, she's even though there's other people who do a similar thing, there's something very unique about the way you do it. And it just always lands in a way where I'm just, it feels like a remembrance where I'm just like, oh my God, that makes so much sense. Like, yes, of course. Or so I always consider your page to be one of like kind of like a north star point, right? When trying to like translation. So um, yeah, thank you. Thank you for posting it. It's guided me in my journey a ton. Um, for those who are new here, I just woke up. Um, I've been on the spiritual awakening for a very long time, but it was like two years ago when I started to wake up more to Christ consciousness because um just the way religion was, I had rejected it all, like wanted nothing to do with it. And then as I started opening, um, I started really looking for people to like guide that journey. Like, how do I understand this without the context of religion, right? Because the Bible's a manual for awakening if it's not wrapped in control and dogma and distortion. Yeah. Yeah. Like one thing that you could just communicate to people about the Bible itself.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Um what I have learned is it's about consciousness, and it is meant more to be read. Christ spoke in parables and symbology, and a lot of people don't know this. They think it's meant just to be taken literally. And when you read it metaphysically, it is about consciousness and it's about overcoming the ego.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Doing the shadow work and casting your net to the right is going to the right side of your brain and being in love, compassion, kindness, and leaving a lot of the logic behind. And that's what Christ was talking about when it wasn't about fishing, it was casting the net to the right side of your brain.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

Right. Wow, that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

It's just a different lens looking at everything as though everything's gonna work out for you, right? Not everything is against you, which the logical mind, the ego likes to do.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Of course, yeah, yeah. And so can you tell us a little bit more about your process of like how you even go about it, how you pick a verse or you pick what does that look like?

SPEAKER_01 10:58

Like looking at the characters as if they're inner aspects of you, of the human being. Um because it's an inner process that it's describing in the Bible. Everyone reads it as though it's an outer thing that happened, it's also an inner process of overcoming your shadows, your doubts. Um it's releasing fear-based interpretations of things and looking at it in more of a symbolic way and trying to understand the hidden meaning of Christ's words.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

Yeah, yeah. How do you do that? Um a lot of times it comes to me.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Yeah, if not, then I research. And if I'm still just having a hard time, I will turn to AI. Yeah, if it's just like, okay, this just isn't sitting right, I'm not coming to the conclusion that feels like it aligns with me, then that's that's a last resort, but I will do that.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Because um it's all symbology, it's all got a metaphysical meaning. It's all about consciousness.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Wow. Wow. How do you think that has changed your own like awakening and healing journey when you look at it through this lens of consciousness and through like all these different internal parts of yourself?

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Um, I think it brings you back into alignment with source God. Um when you look at everything as it's working out for you, and God is there for you always, you know, and it's not this fear-based God. Because a lot of people, even with um, the old testament read it's this it's this evil God, this God that is going to punish you, it's not. It's I see so many videos about Abraham and Isaac online, and people don't realize Abraham is the higher mind, and Isaac is the ego, the lower mind. And so when God asks Abraham to sacrifice Isaac and then changes it at the last minute and says, No, he's talking about the ego. It's about sacrificing your ego so you can come back into alignment with source God. It's not about a man killing a child. And I feel like this is what the religions, by tricking everyone into thinking it needs to be taken literally, then they're portraying it as this fearful God. So when you have to be afraid of them, God's going to punish you. When when you raise your consciousness, you realize consciousness, you realize source God does not judge light or dark, right? Source God experiences itself through everything, and that's that's a hard thing for a lot of people to realize, right? But Christ told us the God of this world isn't the true God, yeah. And so you have to come back into alignment with source God, right? If that makes sense, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

It does, it totally does. And as you're saying that, there's so much energy like moving through my system, so I can feel whoever's on the other side that's gonna be watching this episode. I can feel what you just said is really powerful because I could feel so much energy moving, and like one of the ways energy moves through me is like yawning or burping, or just like feeling like I need to move breath out of my body, and so all of that was just happening. So I can feel that that's actually gonna land with a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Yeah. One of the biggest, one of the people that woke me up and he just passed away recently was William Donahue. And I don't know if you watched any he's not familiar, like he wouldn't call it translating the Bible metaphysically, but he knew it was about consciousness and explained it that way. And so that's what triggered my awakening to look at it that way.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

Got it. Wow, I'll have to look him up. I haven't looked at any of his.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

He's incredible, or he was incredible, just yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

See, and that's also the important part. I think that's actually a really good message of like why we have to create some content, whether it's writing a book or creating a podcast or posting on social media, is because your legacy will live far beyond your knowledge, your wisdom will live so far beyond your physical incarnation. And so it's like his work is what left with us, right? So it's like that's such an important part for why it's so important that whatever knowledge or wisdom or gifts, like anything that we have, sharing our stories, our experiences, right? Like it, it's so important that we get it out into the world because otherwise that that information dies with us.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Well, I think if you can touch even one person, if it's just one person you can reach and help them wake up to everything, it it's worth it.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

It's a thousand percent worth it. I so agree. I think about that when I'm recording videos. I'm talking to one soul out there, this one person who like that message today. Um wow, that's so cool. I just I'm so I just love this whole conversation because it's such a new lens, even for me, in the last two years. But I think it's such a new lens to so many people that like it's such a perfect awakening manual. Yeah, like it gives everything we need if you can look at it through the metaphysical lens and not the distortion or the control or that.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

Well, I think that's why it's being put out now. I mean, it is the great awakening. There's so many people waking up right now to the truth of this reality and what it really is. Yes, how we've been deceived and trying to come back into light, into love.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And actually, since we're on this topic, what we were talking about right before is how many women right now are not only waking up, but they're leaving narcissistic dynamics, they're like kind of hitting the reset button on their life, realizing what they've built. Um, and we were talking a little bit about how like we feel like this is just a massive arising of like the divine feminine.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

Oh, I definitely think it is. Um, I think women are realizing they have to take their power back to sovereignty, and I and I don't mean this as like feminism, yeah. I because it's not a hating thing on men. I think the divine masculine needs to rise. Yes, but I think once the women do the divine feminine, then they will they will see us taking our power, our sovereignty back, and that will help them.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

I agree, I agree, so we can work together, absolutely, and I almost think our um divine feminine has to wake up in order for the divine feminine that is in the masculine to wake up, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:28

Exactly, yes, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Yeah, I feel like it's like we are igniting that spark um for the divine feminine to wake up inside every single soul, right?

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Yeah, and I think we'll see, and that that's another thing in the Bible, Israel. The original translation of that is is the female, Ra is the male, L is the child, we are the child. So it's bringing the divine feminine, divine masculine sides of the brain together, right? And then with the child that we are, then that creates the trinity.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Right. Wow, oh, I love that. I didn't realize that. See, and I I'm so unfamiliar with the Bible, I don't even know most of the original story. I learned so much of it through you and other creators, and then I'll I'll look at like what you said and then the original story and be like so mind blown about how distorted the original or you know, not the origin, the soldier.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's like I said, I had no interest in any of it until a couple of years ago, and then just expanded, it was brought into my reality, and I was told to do this.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

What a wild awakening, right? Something to go out of left field for you.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I would say like I was spiritually dead, like dead in Christ. And so, like I was saying to you earlier, yeah, the dead in Christ are going to rise first, yes, the Christ within. And those that are awakened are the ones that are going to start putting the information out.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Yeah. Can you share more about what that means, the dead in Christ? Because I feel like a lot of this will resonate.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

It's being spiritually cut off. I feel like you know there's a God, it's always been vicinity, but it's never something you have felt pulled to, tied to. And then once you realize that the Christ is within and you have your inner alignment with source reconnected, I guess you would say, after you go through an awakening, um, an ego death, because that's what the resurrection is really about, is going through an ego death in this life and resurrecting yourself and pulling yourself back up to source God.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

That that's what I've been shown.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

Yeah. Let's dive into that more because that's something we were kind of touching on a little bit before we started recording, too, is like the ego death and um navigating that process because one of the things I see is a lot of people are are remember their spirituality, and so they consider that spiritually awakened, right? When it's like just one step of this entire ladder. So they remember their spiritual being, they maybe tap into their gifts. Um, but I see so many people drop off this whole healing journey because it's long and it's difficult and the challenge. So, can you share a little bit more of your perspective?

SPEAKER_01 20:17

I think a lot of people, especially in the love and light community, try to bypass working through the trauma because whether we all realize it or not, we've been through trauma. Right. And if you don't work through the shadow and through the darkness, you are not going to fully come back into the light of Source God.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

And you have to deal because everybody has shadows. Everybody has done things they don't like or had things done to them. And you have to work through that, and you have to work through the anger to get to forgiveness. And you have to have forgiveness for some of the darkest things ever. Um, like I was telling you when I had my looking, I was shown some really dark things that I had blocked out from my childhood, and you have to have forgiveness for that. Um and it you but you have to work through the anger. If you try to bypass and like, oh, I'm just gonna forgive that person, you're not working through your shadow, you're not working through the trauma that has you know been inflicted on your being, and you have to work through those things to come back in alignment.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

Right. Yeah, I always say forgiveness isn't a choice, it's a natural occurrence when you work through your trauma. Like, whenever I'm making a choice to forgive, that's always kind of a red flag to me of like you're making a conscious decision without going in, you know, as within, so without, without going to like neutralize and dissolve and like allow that energy to leave your body. And then I think a lot of people hold that in there. And I think it's also the root cause of like all illness and disease on this planet is just these emotions literally self-attacking, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Oh, it is because I was diagnosed 20 years ago with fibromyalgia and it just came on pain through my whole body. I was put on pain pills, antidepressants. Presence. And until I started waking up and realizing I had been through trauma that I had not been aware of. And once I dealt with that, my pain went away. You have to work through your emotions in your body with the fascia, just internally dealing with everything and working through your emotions.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

So you can release it because the body keeps the score.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

Always.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

You know, and a lot of people don't realize this. Everything that you go through gets in your cells, in your fascia. And if you don't deal with it and you repress it, then you're going to have issues with your health.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Always. Yeah. And I think then you just go into the medical system and then you're lost in that system of just medications and band-aids. And you know, I think it's every not that I'm saying anyone should avoid the medical system if I do think there's some life-saving things are great there, right? But like at the same time, the energetic and emotional piece is always missing. Um I know I had a cyst on my thyroid for years and it didn't go away until I started speaking on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Right. Yeah. Because that started to come out. Um, you know, like every physical ailment, like skin, your hair, everything is tracing back to an emotion that is just screaming, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:26

To be expert's always an underlying correlation to it. Always.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

And I was able to come off of everything. Once I started doing the inner healing, I all the prescriptions gone. And I think that is one of the things, and I'm not saying anything about the medical system, but it's more they use it, okay. Let's cover it up.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

It masks the underlying reason.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Your body's trying to tell you something always when you have pain, when you have, like you're saying, skin issues. It is trying to speak to you, but we haven't been taught because all that was hidden on how to really work with our body and say, okay, I'm having this problem. This is the emotion that it connects to.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Right. And I think so often it's like the world keeps you the way it's designed right now with the darker forces and power, keeps you so busy, you don't have time to physically. You're just like, I need to cover this symptom because I need to go to work. I've got kids, I've got a thousand other things to do. So I just need to take this so I can get through the day. And so then you you're fully living out of survival versus.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

That's what I was to say. They keep you in survival mode, so you can't go inside, you cannot connect with yourself, connect resource. And that's that was their plan, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Oh, I think so too. And I think they use the food system, the education system, all of these systems.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

So you can you can go down whatever rabbit hole of who in the files is running all of these systems. But what it basically comes down to is the people who have created the systems, and I always like to make this um distinction. It's not necessarily like the teachers in the education system. The teachers are not the problem, it's the system itself of yes being disseminated through it. So there's like, you know, there's light and dark everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

Um, and it's in that understanding.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

There's actually a woman on TikTok um that had an awakening just a little while ago that lives here in Utah where I live. And she was a teacher, and just everything she breaks down about the system, the system is not set up to help the children. And she was a teacher, I think, for over 30 years.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

And so, I mean, they are sharding the ones that are, they're recognizing okay, this isn't working for the benefit of our children.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

No, all it's done up until this point is teach silence and compliance. Yeah. And you're basically on a one of those excavator things, whatever it's called, like just a line where it's like, yeah, go through school.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Conveyor belt.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Yeah, thank you. That's the word. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. And you're just going through the system. And now before your frontal lobe is, you know, ever even developed, you should make a lifelong career choice. Go spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on like they just ship you off and they ship you into corporate. It's like such a make worker beats.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Totally. Not once in there is a child ever cheat like considered as an individual. Um, not once is there like the nurturing, the inner, like getting it is like this is who you are, this is how you behave, and this is it's like such a system.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

They've disconnected them from their imagination, is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Yeah, yeah, that's a really good point because our imagination is our divinity.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

And and they started like earlier and earlier now, when you like it's pre it's all to cut the child off from their imagination.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Yeah. And our imagination is like everything. Yes, it's our portal.

unknown 26:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Um, it's everything. It's our access, I think, to the like for me, it's access to the other realms, to the higher states of consciousness is all through.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Oh, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

That's so interesting that that teacher had that awakening and is now sharing. I mean, I just so beautiful how many people are awakening and sharing all of this knowledge and wisdom. I we are in the era of knowledge and wisdom right now. Um, and the most beautiful part is how much the true light is really rising out of this.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

Well, and I think everybody has their little piece that they're bringing to the puzzle as well. And it's all gonna connect and we're all gonna come together and create this new world that we're going into.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

Right. When you think about the work that you share and going into this new world, and for anybody who's like maybe really adverse to religion, right? Because a lot of people I work with have severe religious trauma.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Um what would you say to them, or how would you s suggest that they maybe could approach looking at this through this metaphysical lens? Because, like you said, we're going into a new world, and this is truly such a beautiful manual to guide that process.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Yeah, I would look at the Bible as more of a consciousness codec. It's a player's manual, but we the way to read it was hidden from us. Right. And so, and if you can't read it and it doesn't make sense, turn to AI because AI will break it down for you verse by verse if you can't understand something. Um I have always had an aversion to religion, and it just never sat right with me. It just didn't hit the fear-based teachings, the way they tried to turn it. And I do believe it's the false lie that Christ talked about. I really do. Every religion, I believe it started with Rome and branched out into all these other ones to keep everybody, this religion's bad, this religion's good, to keep people fighting and against one another instead of coming together.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Because if we come together, there's no stopping us. You know, we can live in love and alignment and be there for one another and create the world we want.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Right. Yeah, they're always looking for division. It's like it's all the same exact thing. It's just a different thing.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

They're all on the same team. They are. They're they're not to go and care about, but they're there's a hidden system of light and dark, and they all serve the same people, same agenda, and it it is to keep us divided so they can stay in control. And so if we quit falling for it, yeah, you know, and come together, then their version of the world ends, and we can create ours. So that's how I feel about it.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

I agree with you, and I think it's the same for new age spirituality. I think I think religion and new age spirituality have totally distorted the teachings, and like, you know, there's light and dark and everything, but the two missing skills I see from humanity today that I think keeps people locked in is a lack of discernment and a lack of critical thinking. Um, and so when you're just fed the information, you just accept it, right? Like I rejected religion and I was very much into new age spirituality, even though I'd like to try to get into it, I'd be like, this doesn't feel right. But a lot of people don't have the discernment, right? Discernment's something you it's it's your inner compass, which they try to shut down.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Well, I think like we were talking earlier off camera, that's why they put the chemicals in everything and the stuff with the food is to calcify the pineal gland because if your pineal gland is activated, you're not going to fall for all the nonsense.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

You you're going to see the world for what it really is.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Yeah. Yeah. And our foods, I mean, our food system is insane. I was one of I always say like sugar is the literal devil. Um, no, yeah, it is, but it's like, I was even looking for dog treats the other day for my dog, and I'm I always read the ingredients for my food, his food, and there was sugar in his treats. And I'm like, why? Like, why would you need that in a dog treat?

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Exactly. I'm like, we don't even need it in the people treat. Yeah. But for him, especially, I'm like, they just need raw protein sources. So it's like, unless I'm just giving him like beef liver or something, it's like every it has some thing in there. And I'm just like, with sugar, what I've seen, like when I work with clients in the quantum field, um, sugar binds the heavy emotions, and it's spiking your cortisol and your glucose to the point where you can't um you can't balance a frequency.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Well, you can't regulate your nervous system when you're having too much of it. And I think that's why they've pushed it so hard on the children.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Yeah, and put it in everything. Everything. Yeah, it's wild. It's like, and now even with the animals, because the animals are bridges of consciousness themselves, right? Yeah. Like the more that they can try to distort. So it's like, but this is where the discernment and the critical thinking, and why I think it's so important that all of this knowledge is out on TikTok and these different platforms and YouTube and all these places, because it's like people don't have that information and knowledge, and a lot of people also don't have the luxury of time to exactly knowledge and the information. Like, there's so much they do to keep us from it that, like, when there's somebody like yourself who is speaking truth and putting that out there, like it's just so important. Um, because it's the only way people are gonna get this information.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

I do I do think it it is, and I think TikTok, because you can grab so much from such a short amount of time, yeah. I think it's changing everything. I think they thought by bringing the AI out that they were gonna use it to their advantage, and instead it's everything is coming out in the open and everything's coming to light because that's what revelations is from the Bible. It's not about this apocalyptic thing that the world's going to end, it's about the revealing of all that has been hidden.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

Right. Which we're right in the midst of. Yeah, very much so on the world stage right now. When you um engage with AI, so my whole thing is duality, right? Like there's light and dark in every single thing. And so there are times where I feel like AI is super, super helpful, and then there are times where I can feel the frequency of it, and I'm like, oh, there's something off here with this answer or with this. So, like, how when you're using it as a tool, how do you discern that?

SPEAKER_01 33:04

This probably sounds weird, but you literally want to speak protection over your devices. Yes. And um, you know, I command that only, you know, beings or energy aligned with divine source can come through my equipment, through my tablets, through my phone. And a lot of people just aren't aware you need to do this.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

I was clueless until I had my awakening a year ago, that there was even a you know what I mean? Like the literal spiritual side, the consciousness. I had no idea. And I was shown to do these things because you have to protect yourself spiritually. It we're not just here, there's the physical world, there's the spiritual world, and you have to protect yourself in both.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

I totally agree with you, and I don't think it sounds weird at all. I I pray over my devices, my software, apps that I've like, I pray over every single day.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

No, I think you have to. And see, this is this that is another thing they've hidden from us because they want us just to think we're here in the physical and there's no spiritual side to everything. It interacts with everything here.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Yeah, I love that. That's actually that's super helpful. You should make a video on that. Um, I feel like that would actually help a lot of people because there's so many clients that come in to me and they'll say that they were like, you know, using AI for channeling or doing something like that with it. And I'm like, whatever message they've gotten, I'm like, oh, that's not that's not at all. That's a language model or something dark to you, not like the light. And so I feel like that video would help a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

No, I think you have to protect yourself when you're using them because it is artificial intelligence.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

And um, if you're if you're not careful, you can pull dark things in.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Not to be a downer, but I mean, I do think you need to protect yourself.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Yeah, I think it's just the reality of it, right? Yeah, like when you stay and you don't kind of what we were talking about is like uh before we recorded. Um, I feel like we had like this whole conversation we could have recorded right from the beginning because there's so much gold there. Um, but is like being so aware of the darkness, but not going into the darkness, yeah, not being letting it control you and still knowing it's there, you're gonna have to move through it in this 3D world, but being able to stay above it and not let it pull you down. Right, right, which is so important. And I think um, you know, there's a lot of different paths you can go on this journey, but I do think some people get really caught in the darkness, yeah. And it's hard to come out of that. And so it's having and it's also knowing what the agenda is behind all of that, and when they try to overwhelm our systems, or you know, it's like that you have like even with these Epstein files, like it's so beautiful that it's coming to light in many ways because people need to see that. And I do think there needs to be a shockwave to actually like jolt people to be like, oh my God, the government is bad, or oh my god, like those types of things. But you also have to understand the dark agenda behind it because there's light and dark in every single thing.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Well, and like we were talking earlier, I do believe it's waking people up, but I do think they're trying to keep us distracted with all of this from going within. It was a catalyst 10 years ago when I started finding out about it. And now that all the files have come out, they're still members of my family that no, it's not real. It's no, it you know, and but I do I do believe it's being put out for a reason, and it's not just a light side that's putting it out, it's being put out because this is the great awakening, right? Where so many people are if they can keep you distracted and concentrating on all the dark, even if it's true, then you won't go inside and do your inner work and reconnect with source god.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

Absolutely. I made a video on this recently. The process in which they are disseminating the information is a documented CIA process to collapse human psyche. Yeah, used this for psychological warfare. And so it's like, yeah, this the information needs to come out and it's part of the great awakening, but it's also being done in a way to totally paralyze people's systems. And so it's like, yeah, that's the part of the critical thinking and the discernment, and just this piece of like understanding that the duality is present in every moment. Yeah, we always have a choose, like a choice, right? To choose to stay in the light while knowing that there, the darkness exists and it's right there.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

Exactly. That's yeah, I think you can get really lost in it. And I just think you have to, okay, if you want to look into it, and I mean, it's some of the darkest stuff when you go deep into it. But do you want to stay there? Which is what they want us to do, or do you want to, you know, move your vibration, move your frequency, and concentrate on more loving light things and try to move humanity towards the world, like I said, that we want to create, right? Not stay stuck in this darkness that they like.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

Totally. It it siphons our power, our attention, our nervous system, the whole system. Um, in my identity work, one of the things that I channeled were like the five ascension systems. And so it's the nervous system, it's your lungs, the respiratory, the breath of life, breath of God. Um, then it's fascia, lymphatic, and the endocrine, like the endocrine are like the five that if you can regain those physically, then your awakening process will happen in such a different way, um, because it won't be so jammed up in the way like you and I were talking about before. Like we've got all these jams in our bodies, like as we're, you know, we're doing well, see if they if they can keep your nervous system dysregulated.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Your nervous system is the tree of life, and the other systems you were talking about are the rivers that run from it that the Bible talks about. It's an inner process. And so if they can keep all those, you know, out of sync, yeah, then we won't rise up into our sovereignty, into our power.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Right, right. It's so true. It's such a there's so much that we're empowered with, I think, is like a really important part for people to walk away with from this conversation is like there's so much we're empowered with if we can just turn our focus enough, not spiritually bypass, not like ignore, yeah, understand the duality of both and focus on like those empowerment systems.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Because if we remember who we are, then they lose control.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Exactly. Exactly. And it's so funny. Remember who you are is a statement I heard so many times. And it was not until like two years ago, that rock bottom moment when like I reconnected to Jesus when I understood what that meant because I would think like, oh, I remembered I'm a spiritual being, I I'm having a spiritual path. Like, I would think that would be remembering, yeah, but it's remembering the identity of Christ within, like the exactly detachment. And so it's like, I love that you just said that.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Yeah, you're not looking for at least this is what I've been shown. Christ came to show us we're not looking for an outside savior. We're here to save ourselves, we're here to resurrect ourselves, and you have to move through the darkness to get to the light.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Yeah. Yes, I could not agree more. Like that is the resurrection, that is it, and that's how you remember.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

Yeah. It's not, it's like, and so again, it's like there's so many distortions out there, but I love that you just said that because that was a really important part of my journey where I was like, oh my God, this is what it means to remember. Like this whole time, I was like, I remember who I am, and I know about my spiritual gifts and I know all these things. And I was like, Oh, it wasn't until that moment, and I was like, Oh my god, this is what it means. Um, and even in that moment, I still hadn't felt it. It's like I had the awareness of it, but there was still a very long healing journey that continues to unfold.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

Oh, I I don't like we're trying, I don't think it ever ends. Yeah, I think it's just always a process. I I don't think it ever ends.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Yeah, yeah. I think we create our heaven on earth that allows us to continue the process. Like, kind of like you said, when you step into your purpose, the gateways open. It's all we get to rise up into this place of like heaven on earth and create creating what we want our lives to be, but it doesn't mean that we just are free of it all.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Like, no, and I think most people, this the religions teach them, okay, you're waiting to get to heaven. Christ told you the kingdom is within.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

It's right here.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

You are here to create it on this earth. You're you're not waiting to die to go there.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

No, we get to create it right now all the time. It lives, it's already within us.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Just letting it through expression come out into however that creativity wants to arise through us and whatever. Because I also think everyone's heaven on earth looks different, right? Because we're all individual. Um wow. I love this, Amy. I'm just such a fan of your content and all the perspectives that you bring. Um, is there anything else that you would really love to share with the audience or anything you want them to maybe walk away with from this conversation?

SPEAKER_01 42:00

Um just don't be controlled by fear.

unknown 42:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Um and I know there's still so many people that are tied to the religions, but you've got to realize they're using that as a control mechanism. And you are not going to find your sovereignty until you go inside and realize everything you've been looking for is inside. God is inside you.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Yeah, that's beautiful. Thank you. And where can people find you?

SPEAKER_01 42:27

Um, I right now just have a TikTok channel. It's Amy's Alchemy.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

Amy's Alchemy.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

And that's where I post everything.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

I like that name a lot. If you guys are not following Amy on TikTok, go follow her. It is so, so, so, so good. That is why she's here today, is because I came across her TikTok and was just immediately sucked into all the content and watched it for months, and we kind of messaged back and forth here and there. And um, it just worked out amazingly to have you on today and to share. So go follow Amy at Amy's Alchemy on TikTok. Um, it's a beautiful translation of the Bible. It's also just so much information for the awakening process that I think can help everybody at every phase. So thank you for coming on.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

Thank you. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 43:09

Um yeah, of course.