Talking with the Other Side: Gloria Battini on Mediumship, Grief & Healing

Host Cat York speaks with spiritual medium and consciousness mentor Gloria Battini about her path from anxiety and toxic relationships to becoming a medium and guide. They discuss how intuition and mediumship can support healing, especially in complicated grief.

Gloria explains what to expect in a session, how spirits communicate, the importance of energetic boundaries and self-care, and simple steps listeners can take to start sensing messages from loved ones.

The episode also covers Gloria’s courses on tarot and intuitive development and offers practical encouragement to reclaim inner power and live more soul-led lives.

To learn more about Gloria, book a session or to invest in one of her courses please visit Gloriabattini.com

Join Gloria on YouTube for the weekly tarot forecast, live mediumship connections and more at youtube.com/@gloriabattini

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Hello, and welcome to the Call of the Cat Podcast, where we share honest stories of resilience and recovery. I'm Kat York, and my mission is to hold a supportive and honest space for candid discussions and addiction, healing, and breaking the mold. Whether you are exploring sobriety, navigating family challenges, or working towards finding self-love and improvement, these conversations are for you. We're here to connect, heal, and learn what it truly means to redefine your story. As a gentle reminder before I introduce our guests, this podcast is for informational purposes only. The views expressed by the hosts and the guests are their own personal opinions and views and do not constitute professional advice. Please consult with a licensed professional for any medical, legal, or psychological concerns. Today we welcome Gloria Bettini. Gloria is a spiritual medium, consciousness mentor, and a multi-dimensional guide, a woman on a mission to help people come home to themselves and step into an expanded future, blending astrology, energy healing, and intuitive work. She supports deep personal transformation, embodied self-mastery, and soul-led living grounded in both science and spirituality. Please welcome Gloria. Hi Gloria.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Hello, God. Thank you for joining me. I'm excited to be here.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Thank you for being here. So could you start by telling us a little bit about your journey and perhaps how you knew this was your calling?

SPEAKER_02 1:52

I did not know this was my calling. I did not know this was my calling. Um well, well, here's the thing. I've always felt attracted to these things. Like I've always felt attracted to everything that we cannot see. And I've all I was always fascinated by the power of the mind, like what our mind can do, what we can do as human beings. Because I I always had this. Um I didn't, you know, when I was young, I didn't have the words, you know, to describe this, but I've always had this, I don't know, inner knowing call it. Um, that there was so much more than what I was being shown, you know, or that what I was being taught. However, when I was approaching things like, for example, astrology, you know, it's one of the things that that I do it and I'm passionate about. I was always like shut down, you know, or even tarot, I was shut down. Like, you know, there was there was part of my family that, you know, like for example, my mom, she was, you know, would approach these things, but as if it was something shameful and something to keep secret. So I never actually felt that it was okay for me to even go there, you know. Um, and this is when I was really young, and then I've had some experiences when I was young where I was bullied a lot, where I well, a lot of stuff that has created a disconnection from myself. And then at the age of 18, I met the person that became my husband, who is now ex. Um, and I started a 15-year-long relationship, um, toxic relationship. There was a lot of mental and emotional abuse, um, but I had no idea. I had no idea of what was happening. I was deep into, you know, in in OCD. Uh, I had high functioning anxiety. Like that there was a lot of, I was very disconnected. Very, very disconnected. And I got to one point where I said, I really need to do something about this because I do not know where I'm gonna go from here. I have no idea. Like, this something needs to change because otherwise I really don't know what's gonna happen. And so I started working with a coach who helped me with the OCD and the anxiety. And as I started to free my mind from those things, I started to have space. Um, have space more for like myself, have space more for, you know, seeing the things that I wasn't seeing for such a long time. And then I started also seeing the person that I was with as who they actually were, you know? And then I went on a trip um with my ex-husband, actually. I went we went on a trip to the US and we went to visit, amongst you know, other places, we went to visit Monument Valley. I don't know if you've been, um, but it's a very it's Navajo land, it's sacred land. Um in Arizona, and it is very, very spiritually charged. And when I got there, I um was I was fortunate enough to be able to do a private tour of the valley, and I did that with a Navajo guide who took us, you know, very deep in the valley and stuff. So, anyway, so go to this place where you sit on a rock and you've got like the whole valley in front of you, and it's so big and it's so vast. And I literally sat there and I had this moment of awakening, um, where something was like, this is wrong. Like, whatever is happening in your life, this is not it. You know, like this, this isn't your life, this isn't it. And also at the same time, my problems became like felt really insignificant. I felt very insignificant in front of like such a spiritually sacred, you know, land, um, spiritually charged space. I was like, I I am nothing, I am absolutely nothing, like whatever is going on in my head. I mean, look at this. There's so much more, you know, there's so much more on there. And so I made a promise. I made a promise to myself. I said that I wasn't gonna lie to myself anymore. And then uh then, since uh we then got back from that trip, I started this journey back to myself, which had started already like a year before with the coaching and you know the healing of the OCD and the anxiety. But then that was more intentional, I feel like I feel like that gave me the understanding of what I needed to do, and I needed to take care of my body, I needed to do what I wanted and really open my eyes to what my relationship was and what situation I was in. And then fast forward about eight months, I was like, okay, I'm ready. I need to go. This is not my life, this is so not my life, and so I left. I left the relationship and I went to leave on my own for a few months, and then I met my current partner, and and my new life, like you know, from the moment I left, my new life started, and then I met my current partner, and it was a it's a whole different story. Um, now what what happened there is that I even when I left this relationship, I had no, I had no idea of all of this either. I had no clue. Like I still had no clue. I still was, I still would have had, I still had another, I would say two years before I open up to all of this, two, two and a half years before I open up to all this. Um I what I did know is that I did not want to be in corporate anymore. I did not want to have an office job anymore. I did not, I didn't want any of this anymore. And coaching had changed my life so much that I thought, oh my god, I want to help so many women who have who are in my situation, I want to help them. So I trained as a coach and I started working with women that were recovering from narcissistic abuse and toxic relationships. And I did that for a while, but and it felt like very good and very fulfilling, but I still felt like it wasn't me. And then I went to see a spiritual coach, and she did like a breeding for me, and she told me that I had lots of spirits around me. And I said to her, I know. I said, It, but isn't that like, but that's normal, and she's like, It is, but it's not necessarily obvious to be aware of the fact that they're there, and I'm like, okay, because I felt this like my whole life. I just thought this is what this is everybody's experience. I just felt like it was something that needed to be kept secret, you know. I just didn't, you know, but I just assumed that's what everybody has, and she's like, not necessarily like we all have them, but she's like, not necessarily everyone has the awareness of it, so evident. And she's like, if I were you, I would look into that and what you can do to maybe understand how you can work with that. And so uh I set an intention that year. I set an intention, it was like close to near to new year, so I set like a like a new year, not resolution, but wish more, you know, like a new year wish, where I said, I would like to find my mentor and find somebody who helps me understand this. And then in February I found him. Literally, like so quick. And then I started working with this person and I trained and decided, okay, now I understand it. Now I want to be able to do that. I feel like this is my calling, this is what I'm meant to be doing. Um, because it felt like so home. And then when I understood how to interact with it and how to utilize it, there was no doubt in my heart that this was it. Um, but it was a very long road to get there for sure.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Was there was there was there a fear of judgment from those around you? Um, because most a lot of mainstream society views death as final. Um, you know, that there's nothing after this, the spirits don't comfort us, angels. A lot of people don't believe in that. Was there fear on your part to really pursue this gift?

SPEAKER_02 10:43

You know what? Um no, and I tell you why, because I feel like the years before had prepared me to not stop myself in front of this. So in the year prior, I had to learn a lot of boundaries, and I had to learn what I value and whose opinion I value, and who do I share things with. And so when I got to that point, I was like, I don't even need to share this with people that I know are not gonna understand. It's not important to me. What is important is that I know that this is happening, I know that this is my mission and my purpose, and I bring it to the people that are open to it full stop. What everybody, you know, anybody else is gonna say, I'm not here to convince anyone. This is the thing. I'm not here to convince anyone. I'm not that that's that's not the point. If somebody doesn't believe it, doesn't want it, I'm like, you know, I'm not I'm not here to to try and force you into anything at all, you know. Um, and so I had people in my life that I have people in my life that completely don't resonate with this, and I just don't share it. And I just choose to like protect my energy and um and just share it with the people who see it, and that's it.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

So would you say that mediumship um actively creates like a bridge? Yes, that'd be inaccurate, okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Between the two worlds, yeah. Um, yeah, I feel like mediumship, but you know what? You know what? I feel like the medium is the bridge. You know what mediumship is? Um it's a language. Okay, it's a language, which in a way language is a bridge. Um, but I feel like this is what I do when I teach it to my students. So the you know, we are in this physical world and we have a body and we can utilize our voice, we can speak to each other, okay? And even if we don't have that, we can learn, you know, sign language and all of that to communicate um in a language. But the thing is, to the souls that are no longer in a physical body, and I'm not even gonna say that they are on the other side because there's no other side. Um, what is my understanding that is that we're all at the same place, we are just vibrating at different frequencies, and so therefore, some of us have a physical body, some of us don't. And so, what they don't have is the is the voice, the audible, you know what I mean? Like the voice to speak as we are speaking now. And so we are the lucky ones because we can learn the language, which is the language of energy, and so that's that's literally all we need. It's it's speaking the language of energy, and once we learn the language of energy, meteorship, you know, meteorship abilities, they are not a gift, they are really not a gift. Um, everyone can do this, it is just your intuition, it's just training yourself to use your intuitive abilities, which you already have naturally. It's not, you know, it's you've not been chosen, it's not like it's not a gift, it's not it's not something that's extraordinary. It's just literally every single one of us is born with an intuition, and you know, in the same way that if you go to the gym long enough, you're gonna get a six pack. If you have intuitive abilities enough, you get to do this, you know. It's like it's like a no-brainer, it's like this is just how it works, you know. And so it's not that it's a specific gift. I feel like what the gift is, is the way that each person does it. The gift is how the medium speaks it, but it's simply a gift because they utilize their own imprint, you know, their own their own thing into that. But the doing it, that's not the gift at all.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Now, with with anything, there's there's limitations and and boundaries. Are there what are some of the limitations and boundaries with mediumship, either with you or with the spirits? Like what can you receive, what will come through, what won't? Because I some people may come to you and ask what big big answers to big questions. Maybe they're looking for something specific and they don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Um I don't necessarily see it that way. Um because we all read in different in different ways, you know. There are so many mediums out there that are so specific, for example, with names and dates and stuff like that. Um, and some other mediums that are more specific with memories, for example, right? Where that that's the gift, right? That's that's the that's the how you do it. I don't think pardon me, I don't think that there are specific limitations as long as as a medium you don't um you don't put yourself inside of the reading. So your job as a medium is to forget yourself, yeah, is to completely forget yourself and not interpret the question, not not interpret the answer that comes, just simply be this bridge, this medium, literally, in between two parties that says, this is the question, this is the answer, that's it. But what we can do is very often get caught up in our head and try to interpret things and try to be like, oh, this is not what it is, this is not that's a mistake. You gotta we gotta forget ourselves as mediums completely. We are in 100% in service to the people that we're connecting, you know, to the spirit and to the person. So with that, no, there's no limitations, absolutely, unless you create them.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

Are there are there is there I'm I'm kind of curious, is there a way you have to protect yourself during sessions? Um, because I imagine they can get pretty emotionally charged sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 17:09

Yeah, absolutely, yes. So this is it's not necessarily just during a session, this is everyday work. Um, energy boundaries and energy protection, yes, absolutely. Every day, um you want to be very intentional of how open you stay and how it affects your life, you have to be very, very you have to have solid boundaries a hundred percent and make sure that you cleanse your energy, make sure that you put yourself first, make sure that if you're not in the in the right energy to do a reading, you explain it and you say, I'm not in the right energy to do a reading. Because to me, it all comes down to service. So when I do it, I put myself in the best possible um uh situation to be able to do the reading. Does that make sense? So there's a day-to-day care um that needs to happen, and there's like, you know, I live a very solitary life. I live a very solitary life and I love it, um, because I do need a lot of space for myself and uh because I'm constantly connecting, I do readings, I teach, I loads, I host loads of online events and that sort of stuff. So the time that I am not working, I love being on my own, like it has to be recharging, you know. There are some times, unfortunately, where life is like, oh, but what about this and what about that? So you have to have the boundary to be like, no, I'm sorry, I can't, you know. So we get so caught up sometimes in like people pleasing that we want to be available to everyone. We want to be available, we're gonna be, oh, but this person is gonna get offended if this this person is. I'm sorry, no, like that. What is your purpose? That's the most important thing, you know. And you owe it to your gift and to the people that you're serving to put yourself and to look after yourself at best.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Yeah. No, no, that's important because I remember when I went to go see a medium, I remember her cleaning the space before I came in, uh cleansing her energy. Um, and one thing that she did, uh, she mentioned because she she gives mediumship classes as well, is that she said after each session she would ask the spirits if she served them well. Yeah. Yeah. And which I thought was a beautiful like exchange and a way to end it. Um when people come to you and they're grieving, um how would you how would you first explain to someone what to expect in a session when they come to you? They're trying to connect with a loved one and say maybe their grief is complicated.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Yeah. Um, I always reassure them that we don't have to go anywhere that they don't want to go. We don't have to ask anything that they don't want to ask. We don't have to, you know, we don't have to continue if they don't feel comfortable in continuing. Like it's it's this is this is they are uh on the driving seat. They are in the driving seat of all of this, you know. And the thing is that the spirit it's gonna it's gonna respect that, it's not gonna push, it's not you know what I mean. Um, and also I do this, I literally have my eyes closed, and I always say to them, if you feel like you want to cry or anything, just you know, remember that I'm not even seeing you. So just you know, feel free. I'm not I'm not seeing any of this. And um, but you know, sometimes um I never had anybody actually, even even people who were really, you know, grieving um and had complicated grief, nobody has ever stopped me, you know. Um I never had that actually. They were all very curious and very receptive. Um yeah, I do uh the way that I do it though, which is which is probably why. Um I really I'm a really curious person, cat. I ask loads of questions. I ask loads of questions. Um and to the spirits. And so it's literally like I'm having tea with them. Maybe that helps lower the pressure for the person, maybe right that it's that it doesn't feel like this, uh like you're summoning, you know, something, you know. Like it feels actually like very natural and very casual in the way that it's happening. And so I feel like maybe a lot of people feel like it's gonna be way worse because maybe they don't know what to expect. And then when they get into that, they're like, Oh, okay, yeah, this is not too bad, you know. This is actually fine, nothing bad is happening here, you know.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

When when you're sitting down and you're connecting with the spirits, if more than one should want to come through to speak to this person, how do you balance that out so you're not because I can imagine I can get kind of a lap when you have more than one message coming into you at a time.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Yeah, um, I let the client hold the boundary there. So some clients tell me straight away at the beginning of the session, I am open to hear from anyone who would like to come through. And so at that point, if I sense that there's more than one spirit, I tell them and I say, Oh, I have this person and this person and this person. Are you okay to speak to all of them? Or do we want to and and I always ask them to prioritize who is more important? Who do you want to, who do you feel like you want to speak to more? Right. And so I let them lead. Um, otherwise, uh, like so I let them lead in that way, but more often than not, they um come to me and say, I want to speak to this person. So if they just say one person, I that's what I do. I just call through one person. So I let them, I let them lead. Yeah, I let them lead because it's it's important because I have to hold a boundary. I have to hold a boundary because I'm um I have I have in front of me a person who is grieving. Um, even if their loved one, you know, passed like 20 or 25 years ago, if it's the first time that they do something like this, it might be incredibly overwhelming. So I have to let them lead. I can't just be like, you know, I've got like five spirits, hey, and they all have to come through. No, it's their decision, always.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Yeah. Mediumship can be a profound tool for healing. Um, especially I imagine when it comes to either complicated grief or um when there was like a disenfranchised loss, say like addiction or or suicide or something of of that nature. Yeah. How can receiving a message from someone help a person's journey through grief?

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Um I feel based on my experience, it's the understanding that frees the person. It's receiving because very often, you know, if it was something like addiction, if it was like a premature, you know, very early death, um the question that the person on this side very often has is like, why? You know, why did this have to happen? Like, you know, did I have any any play in this? Could I have done more? You know, um, and so it can be very transformational when um in these kind of situations, because it gives them the understanding of what it was and why, right? And so all of a sudden um they're being freed because it's not just it's not just the grief. The thing is that with the grief, I feel like grief, especially in certain situations, can encompass so much more than grief, because it can encompass guilt, it can encompass shame, it can encompass anger, like there's so much tied to it, and I feel like having a mediumship journey or even just like one session, um can help the person be freed of these things, and um, and this is actually one of the main reasons why I do it. Um, because there's so much pain, so many people that have lost their loved ones, um, that are keeping themselves in the struggle because they are doubting, like, did I have a plain desk? I feel guilty, I feel anger, I feel frustration. It's not just the sadness, it's not just the loss. There is so much more. And to me, um, that is like a prison, right? The way that I see it is like it's a prison, it's like this person is in chain. But actually, from my experience working with spirits and working with the other side, there is absolutely no um heaviness that is held by the person that has passed on, but they don't know it, and so they keep themselves like that, right? And I cannot fathom that kind of pain, thinking that you might be responsible for something, or you holding on anger, or you holding on pain, or you holding on the not knowing. I cannot, I cannot cope with that myself. Um, and that's why I do it, because I want you to know that you know, I want everyone to know um that it's not the end. There isn't like nobody dies. Nobody dies. That's my understanding of it. Like the way that we perceive death, I don't believe that that's actually what it is, what we think it is. Yeah, you know, from from the work that I've been doing and from the things that I've learned in the past few years. Um I don't think we we understand it in the way that it is.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

No, I think we have a very limited scope of not only grief, but of also, you know, what comes after this. Um explain everything away and uh make it final when um just from my own experiences, I don't I don't believe that that that you know that is that this is uh when when somebody leaves us or touched on something that was important, um they don't carry on like all the heaviness that was here, like the anger, if there was any resentment, that all stays here, is that correct?

SPEAKER_02 28:32

That's my understanding, yeah. That is my understanding. It's not even that it stays here, you know, it's not even that, it's almost like it's like a processing, you know, it's like whatever has happened, it's it's more of an understanding, it's more of a processing and an understanding of what this life experience was, and and from what from what I've understood from all these readings and sessions that I had with people, it's that this all happens like within seconds. It's like it's you know, like it's within seconds, um, and it's more of like a realization like, oh yeah, all of this makes sense now. I don't have to hold on to anything because I understand it. Yeah, that's yeah, that's how I understand it.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Yeah, and this might be a silly question, but why do why do the spirits stay so close to the ones that they left behind?

SPEAKER_02 29:36

This is what I was saying earlier, because I believe we're all in the same place. We're just all here. The thing is, from a quantum physics perspective, everything is energy, right? Everything is energy. So if even if you think Wi-Fi, right? Think Wi-Fi, think Wi-Fi waves, you know. We have Wi-Fi all over the place, like every house has a Wi-Fi router. Um, there's waves from cell phones, there's all of this. Imagine if you could see those with your naked eye. Like, I believe that what we're seeing with our naked eye is a very, very tiny fraction of what our world is made of. And so, in the same way that we we know that the Wi-Fi is there because it's creating a connection and it's allowing us to go to the internet or or our cell phone because it's allowing us to communicate to one another, but we don't see those waves, right? We just know that they're there because we can see the the devices communicating with each other. And this is what I'm this is my understanding. Like we are all here, like all of the there, there's like a huge spectrum of how energy works and expresses itself, and some of it we can see and some of it we can't. And I believe that the the the souls of our loved ones, it's they are here, they are energy. We just can't see them because they vibrate at a different frequency that is impossible for our eye to see, but that's it.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Yeah. Are they do they is do they hang hang around? I say hang around, I make it sound like they're just like, you know, sitting there. Like, I just I don't know. I like to I like to picture that like you know, like my dad and my brother just kind of hanging around me sometimes. Um like do they try to guide us in some ways?

SPEAKER_02 31:37

I believe so. I believe so. Um, so this has happened so many times. Um, they do. I feel like they are very communicative if we are open to listening. Very often, um, I've had people that never had mediumship before, never had a session before, did not know what to expect. And then as we've done the session and as they got to speak to their loved ones, then they asked for signs, you know, what sign are you gonna send me? You know, how can I communicate with you? And I've had a lot of people actually taking action after our session and just being open to receiving the messages and being open to communicate with their loved ones because it completely shifted their perspective, and they do, and they do, they have like daily communication with their loved ones, and it's just like they and it's and they're like, Yeah, I know I a hundred percent know that it's them. I asked them a question, and in some way the answer gets to me, and sometimes it gets to me through like a physical sign, sometimes it gets through me to me, like through like an inner knowing that I that I know it's not from myself, you know, like that there's this message that comes in, and like, oh, this is not me, this is you. I understand, but this is the thing, like they're constantly here, they're constantly eager to communicate. Um, because I believe that they wanna, they they want like this is this is how it's supposed to be, I believe. You know, yeah, we're not supposed to ignore it, we're not supposed to only utilize the physical part of our body in this existence. Yes, it is a physical life, but we are so much more than physical, and we have so much more potential than just the physical. And I believe that they know that, and I believe that they want us to open up to it because it would be so much easier, and there would be so much less pain if we did, you know, right.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

No, it would because I can I can tell you after my first session in Medium, there was it there was a there was a shift, and I started noticing things that weren't there before, and I was like, I can't explain that away, you know, and like especially with technology, like I feel sometimes things they get a little feisty with technology, at least my sphere is like to play with my technology a little bit, like songs will change on my radio that I didn't you know that I know I didn't change. Um what is is there what is one small step for someone who's maybe feeling um lonely or wants to try to recognize maybe the unseen presence of the loved one? What's a simple step that they can they can try to take to start to begin that journey to to feel them?

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Yeah, um there are there are many ways, you know. First, I would say open yourself up to it, declare it. You know, I feel like that's a simple declaration, it's often like a huge set shift in somebody's energy, you know, simply being like, okay, mom, dad, brother, sister, um, I want to speak with you, and I'm gonna stay open. This is my question. Send me a sign that I would understand. Just send this out, you know, even just saying this out loud, saying it out with intention. Um, even this can just be, you know, a small step towards it. But you can also do there, are certain you can find them uh online. I mean, I know I I do have one. Um, I'm a teacher on the Insight Timer app, if anybody is familiar. It's a spiritual app. And I have loads of I do loads of live events, but I have loads of meditations, and I have a meditation there that I created specifically for you to receive a message from a loved one. And that is just you. Like, I'm not doing anything, I'm just guiding the meditation. This is for you to understand that you can do it. I've got nothing special, you know. Like this is how this is-I wouldn't say that. Like we we we can all do it, we can all receive the messages, we can all communicate. Um, and I just guide you through the meditation and that's it. So maybe doing something like that, you know, or even perhaps have a mediumship session and ask them directly. If you don't feel like you're currently open or you're if you're finding it hard to receive messages from your loved ones on the other side, maybe go and have a mediumship session and ask them, how are you? What is your preferred way of communicating with me? What should I be looking out for? What am I searching? What do you want me to do when I'm communicating with you? You know, I had a specific, I had a specific client um who I worked with for a while, um, when she was grieving the loss of her parents. And she asked, uh, specifically her mom. She wanted to know, like, mom, how how like how do I receive your messages? How am I, you know, what what what do I need to do? And her mom specifically came through and she told me, I'm gonna speak to her in the car. You have to tell her that when she's in the car, I'm gonna speak to her when she's in the car. I kid you not, every time this kind of like car, there's something that happens. So she's like, Oh, that's mom. Yeah, that's everybody. It's just so you know, awesome, awesome, awesome. Ask questions. That's the best way to find things out.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Ask questions, and that can make you feel less lonely as you're going through your day.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Absolutely, and another easy, very easy way, actually, if you like working with cards, you can get any deck of Oracle cards. You don't because Oracle cards, you don't need to know how to read them because they all come with a booklet that tells you, you know, the Oracle cards have all been created with specific purposes and stuff, and they all come with their own booklet that says what each card does, right? What each card means. And what you could do is simply sit down, light a candle, take a few deep breaths, and say, Okay, I'm gonna utilize this deck to speak with my dad and just ask questions and just say, Okay, dad, today I'm feeling like this and this and this. Tell me through these cards, what should I do? What is my, you know, what are your words? What do you think of this? And then pull a card that you feel called towards, and you will see. That's actually the the easiest way to start, I would say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

Do you when do you think that we stopped kind of listening to our intuition, kind of trusting that we weren't alone?

SPEAKER_02 38:32

I think that took uh years of conditioning. I think that took years of societal conditioning, yeah. I think that took years of societal conditioning, years were um decades, possibly centuries, in which certain things were placed under a certain light, and it has all contributed to create to form a certain opinion towards certain things and making us think that we can't do it. So, like, for example, let me give you two examples here. So the first example is the the whole like this is all a charlatan thing, right? And so even if it was true, there has been so much societal conditioning done towards it not being true that then people have stopped trusting it, right? And then the other conditioning is no no no no no Wade is true, but only certain people can do it because you have to have a special gift to do it. This is what I hate to my core, you know. I feel like this is even worse than telling people that it's not true, because this is making people think that they have to be special in order to do something that's actually natural, you know. It's like, well, swimming is true, people can swim, but you have to be to be super special in order to actually learn how to swim, which is nonsense. It's completed utter nonsense. But I feel like that's part of the conditioning, yeah. And I have so many people, you know, people that have come to me with a session, and you know, and I said to them, Do you want to ask them for signs and stuff? And they're like, Oh yeah, but I don't know if I would see them because you know I'm not like you, and I'm like, you are 100% like me, just don't believe it. Yeah, you don't believe that you can do it because you think that I have something special that you don't, but that's not true, right? You know, that is absolutely not true, and I think that's probably the worst. That's the worst thing.

SPEAKER_00 40:55

I'm I'm curious, and I hope this is a is a fair question. How do you feel about um like you see like these psychic live events, like these big um, you know, you can buy tickets for like a specific medium to see. You know, how do you feel? Do you how do you feel about the like events like that? Do you think that takes away from like the intimacy of it at all?

SPEAKER_02 41:17

I think there's a time and a place for sure. Um I do I do live events where I do mediumship readings on Insight Timer, for example, they are all streamed to my YouTube channel as well. Um and I do them for an audience. And I think that there are you have to, it's not necessarily about it being right or wrong, it's about how you choose to connect. You know, if you are the type of person that wants to have a very intimate experience, then you can choose not to go, right? You know, but there are people that are like, you know what, I like to experience this in community, I like this to be shared, and then and then you can do it, you know. I don't think that there's anything right or wrong, like it's uh I don't think so. I think it's more about what is right for you as the receiver. How do you feel like you connect? Do you want to have something more intimate, or do you prefer to have it in community, you know? And I do have people, you know, that have come to my lives because the lives that I do, the people that I read for are picked randomly, and and so I never know who I'm gonna read for. Um, and but the but I ask, I might have like 200 people watching the live, and I always ask, tell me your name if you want to be put on the thing where you get randomly picked, and not everybody says their name because they're not comfortable with it, and that's okay, that's fine. But it it helps me bring open people up to it, right? Right, it helps me make this more mainstream, it helps me show people that it works, that it's something that you can tap into, that is something that you can utilize in your healing journey, that is something that can help you, that can be really transformational, it helps the people because obviously if you get a reading, it's you don't even have to pay for it, you know my life, all of my live events are free, so it helps me do something that you know for the people that can't afford it, yeah. Uh and I feel like it's just up to you, it's just up to you. A lot of people want to see it first before they actually do something privately, and I think that there's nothing wrong with that, you know. It's just about what what resonates with you, you know, what resonates with you? Are you somebody that feels like, oh, I I'd like to have this in community? I feel like this would be okay for me to experience this way, or maybe you want to have it private. I don't think that. It's got anything to do with the medium ship. I think it's more to do with it's available and you can do it. Nobody's forcing you to do it one way or another. You can choose.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

I like that because I didn't even think about that aspect of people being curious about it, but not wanting to quite dive right into it yet personally, but witnessing it and seeing how it unfolds for other people. Yeah. Um I do want to touch a little bit um on you you teach classes, like you take you have classes. Um how is what what is what is can you talk about your classes a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 44:36

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I have uh I currently have two courses. Um in one class I teach tarot, just simply like tarot, uh on its own. And then the other course that I have is intuitive development. Now, this is more um this is more advanced in a way, like like if you want to tap into doing these things yourself, right? Um, you don't have to do it just to become a practitioner, just to do this as your job. You could take the course simply because you just want to understand how this works and be able to do it yourself, you know. The the way that this is the reason why I've put it there, the reason why the course is there is because I believe that we are going in a different direction with the world. I believe that a lot of people are waking up. A lot of people are waking up to their own powers, their own abilities, their own strengths. Um, they're waking up to the to the fact that we have been conditioned about a lot of things, um, and they're not necessarily buying into it anymore, right? And so the future that I see is a future where we can be ourselves and we feel good being ourselves, that our authentic self is is who we're supporting, right? And part of our authentic self is our intuition, right? Part of our authentic self is our intuition, which I feel we have for centuries suppressed uh in order to be controlled and whatnot. And so the course is about understanding what you can actually do as a human being beyond your physical life. Um, and so there's all sorts of things like energy healing in the course. There's um tapping into you know mediumship, there is different, actually, different kinds of energy healing. There are uh things that you can do um to tap into your past lives, to understand karma, to understand your kashik records. Um, there's so many different things, you know, working with your chakra system and how to understand what how to heal yourself energetically, you know. All of these are things that we were always able to do. We have just been disconnected, and I believe that where we're going is I call it like new earth. There's many people calling it new earth, which is not someplace else. Um, it's here. Like thinking new earth is just a different way of living, it's a different way of you know living on at a different frequency, at a different vibration, however you want to see it. But I feel like the new earth human is the human that is connected to their intuition, connected to their inner knowing, connected that has let go of all the conditioning, has let go and have healed whatever they needed to be healing and understood their you know path or whatever, and is opening themselves up to this because they want to experience life to the fullest.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

And does it change the collective energy of the of the world? The more people that tap into how intuitive they are, does that create its own sense of healing around us?

SPEAKER_02 48:28

Yeah, it does, it does. This is why this is the thing. Um, a lot of people, this is one of the things like a lot of people um wanna heal others, and there's nothing wrong with that, okay? But some people are simply not ready yet to receive the healing, right? And so, and and we can't force anybody. It's not you know, everybody has got their own path and everybody has got their own life. We cannot force anyone, and if you try and force somebody into healing when they're not ready, you could actually do more damage, right? Um, and so the thing is that in order for you to have an impact, you don't even need to help everybody else, you healing yourself is impacting thousands and thousands of people already without you knowing, and then as you do so, the people that are opening up, they will gravitate towards you regardless. So if you do feel called to do this as a profession, if you do feel called to serve, you know, this is this is actually this is exactly what happened to me. I constantly try to help my friends in my life. They they are just not ready. They are not ready. When I then decided, you know what? No, I'm just gonna focus on me. I'm gonna focus on finding myself, I'm gonna focus on healing myself and deciding that this is what I want to do, this is my purpose, this is my mission, this is what I want to do. The moment I did that, yes, maybe my friends are still feeling the way that they are, but I had hundreds and hundreds of people then coming into my energy because I opened it up. So, why do we want to be focused just on this when there's so many people that we're naturally influencing just by you know raising our vibration and healing ourselves, you know? And maybe these people will come around once they see they will come around. The best way to me is is to lead by example. Yeah, you know, if you wanna, you know, I mean look in the mirror, right? The man in the mirror. That's where we gotta start from.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

No, I I love that. I love the way you worded that. That if we heal ourselves, we just start naturally attracting uh more healed individuals into our lives and we put healing out into the world without even realizing it. Because so often we feel we need to better the ones around us to help change our situations. When we if we help ourselves and heal ourselves, that's the best thing that we can do for the world around us.

SPEAKER_02 51:18

Because this is the thing, we don't realize how actually how powerful we are. We think that in order to impact something, we have to do or someone, we have to do something directly. That is not true. We are so powerful, then when we radically align ourselves and we take radical responsibility for our life, the people around us are directly influenced by it, and if they're open to it, they will change too. You know how many women I had coming to work with me, and then their husbands completely changed as well. It was never the purpose, you know what I mean? Like they simply started doing this work, and their partner or their mothers were like, Oh my god, this is so you know, and all of a sudden, because they were open to it. But as I said, I do have other people in my life that still don't resonate with any of this, and that is perfectly fine. As I said, like I'm not here to convince anyone, but if your energy is open, if you feel like there's something here for you, oh my god, I'm here like with my arms open, please just come into my energy. I'd love to share this with you. I'm not here to convince, you know.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

No, no, every medium I've met has just been so warm and so loving and kind. Um, and I think sometimes that like you said, a lot of people get nervous because we may feel it's a gift that we don't have. But we just simply haven't tapped into it yet, and for we've forgotten how powerful we are.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

And that's that's a beautiful thought if you look at it like that. That we're far more powerful than we think we are, and we can do a lot more than we think we can. Yeah. Is there anything you'd like to leave us with before we wrap up?

SPEAKER_02 53:15

Well, actually, on that note of we are more powerful than we think we are, there is one thing, and I don't want you to listeners, I don't want you to take this as um a religious thing, okay? Because I am not using this term in a religious way. Um, but I have made my peace with the word God. I'm not religious, I was raised Catholic, and I suffered a lot from it. I was, you know, riddled with guilt and shame for a very long time in my life and did not accept myself because I think that God disapproved of me, you know, all these sort of things, and it did a lot of damage. However, um, went on, did a lot of healing and a lot of coming home to myself, and I have now made peace with the word God. I don't believe God is a person, I believe God is the same word as universe. I believe God is the same word as source, you know? That's what I believe. I believe that there is an energy that makes up everything, whichever way you want to call it. You can call it universe, you can call it source, you can call it God, you can call it creator energy, you can just call it energy, whatever it is that you want to call it. Okay. That's what I'm what I wanted to clarify before I say this is that I am not using this in religious terms. But I want you to know that whatever this energy is that creates everything, that um makes up everything, um, you're it. That's what I want you to know, that you're it. God energy, universe energy, you are it. That energy is not something that you look for outside of yourself. That energy is who you are. This is what I believe we need to wake up to, and more people need to wake up to. Because we've been conditioned to believe that we have to find this big thing outside of ourselves. It was never outside, it was never a question, it was always inside of you. Whatever God, the universe, energy, spirit, whatever it is, you're it. And the moment that you see yourself for who you actually are, this powerful energetic being, your life will completely change. And so please, please, please know that you are absolutely way more powerful than you think you are, and all of this energy that everybody talks, that it's outside, and it's this big thing outside was never actually outside. It's all inside of you. You have it there to tap into, tap into it.

SPEAKER_00 55:59

I got goosebumps when you were saying that. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for sharing today not only your wisdom, but your journey, your message. Umeded message that we need to come home to ourselves and step into more of an expanded, soul-led future versus this kind of conditioned, you're not powerful, kind of fall-in-line, very disconnected way of living. Um you've really helped, I think, bring some healing and helped us, helped a lot of us maybe be open more to to mediumship and to trusting our intuition a little bit more. And so I thank you for that.

unknown 56:42

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 56:43

Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 56:44

And I'm definitely gonna check you on Insight Timer because I was like, I love that app. That app is great. Um, and so if you want to connect with Gloria, she's a spiritual medium, a consciousness mentor, a multidimensional guide, an all-around great human being. Um, all the links will be in the show notes, including her website, Gloria Bettini, B-A-T-T-I-N-I.com. That will be available in the show notes. She is on Insight Timer, she is on social media. Um, please check her out. Um her website is beautiful, by the way. Your website is gorgeous. I love your website.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

Thank you, thank you. I'm on YouTube though, I'm not on social media anymore.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

Oh, I'm sorry, on YouTube. YouTube, yeah. And attend one of her lives and maybe maybe she'll she'll change, change your a little bit too. Open up your mind a little bit to some of the things that she does and connect with maybe some loved ones. Um, as always, thank you everybody for listening. You can find me on all the major platforms. And the easiest way to connect with the show and support us is through a link tree, which you can find in the show notes. Uh, don't forget to follow us on social media for uh clip snippets and show updates. And until we speak again, uh please remember you don't have to carry what you came from and keep telling your story because you never know who you will help. And we will see you next time.