In this episode of the Mind Your Own Dog Business, Kristen sits down with the badass Ashely Emig of Lil Rascal's Dog Training, based in Asheville, NC & Southeastern PA.
Over the last year, Ashley has seen some shit and gone through some heavy shit in her personal life and business life after a series of events. Events that would bring most dog business owners to their knees and make them throw in the towel.
Ashely shares her story and journey of this transitional part of her life as she learned to give up control, trust in herself and her mentors, and how she landed on her feet in a new location with her dog training business.
It's a story of when life gut punches you, but you come back up swinging harder than ever when the odds are stacked.
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In this episode of the Mind Your Own Dog Business, Kristen sits down with the badass Ashely Emig of Lil Rascal's Dog Training, based in Asheville, NC & Southeastern PA.
Over the last year, Ashley has seen some shit and gone through some heavy shit in her personal life and business life after a series of events. Events that would bring most dog business owners to their knees and make them throw in the towel.
Ashely shares her story and journey of this transitional part of her life as she learned to give up control, trust in herself and her mentors, and how she landed on her feet in a new location with her dog training business.
It's a story of when life gut punches you, but you come back up swinging harder than ever when the odds are stacked.
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Welcome to the, my dog business podcast. I'm your host, the leading pet business expert. Kristen Lee. Here's the thing I help dog business owners just like yourself. Become powerful as fuck without sacrificing more yet. No more sacrificing everybody. There's enough going on as dog trainer, we'll be talking about growing your dog business through seven figure sales strategies, marketing that feels authentic. Fuck. And especially works in the hot topics you care about as a dog business entrepreneur and everything in between. Not to mention interviews with some of the leading dog business owners out there today, get ready to grow and disrupt the way you do in the business of dogs. Let's do this. I have one of our dog BI school students here, miss fucking Ashley Emig to share her story about, I don't know, did you burn it? Not necessarily burnt it down, but you kind of did the, you kinda just kinda burned down. It was. Yeah, but it was like more of a Phoenix. I'm gonna use the whole Phoenix rising from the ashes. And what's really cool. Is I just noticed I'm sitting here in the podcast studio and looking at, he. the headphones that I'm looking at has the same exact tattoo as I have on my wrist. I'm like, huh. Was I lied to about that text? the meaning of it. anyway, Ashley, welcome. Welcome to my drone dog is I'm excited to have you here. I'm excited to be here. So, Ashley? Yeah, you've been training dogs for how long? Uh it's it's only been five years. Oh, it's only been Jesus Christ. I felt like you've been training dogs forever. Now I've been training horses forever. Another fucking horse girl. were you that weird horse girl in school where everybody she's the horse girl and they like made by you? Yeah, that was me. Yeah, that was me too. That was so me. That was me in like middle school and everybody made fun of me for them, whatever. Fuck y'all yeah, you were, you were a massage trainer for years. Yeah forever. I, I did that for probably 10, 10 years professionally. Oh shit. And how'd you get into dogs by mistake? Kind of by . I got so burned out with horses that I was just like, I don't know what else to do with my life because I have no other skills because I spent my entire childhood. Working up to this career. Oh, so yeah, I birded out and I was like, I have no other skill. The dog training is kind of adjacent slightly. kinda, if I can teach you a horse, how to walk on a leash, I'm sure I can teach a dog. I have to walk up. So I applied for a training job at a big training facility back in Philadelphia. And I was like, yo, I've never trained a dog before, but I can do this with worse. Will you gimme a shot? And they did. And I got my C P D T certification and went crazy from there. Yeah. It's funny. Like people are like the dog training. Industry's full, full of drama. I. do you know, the horse street street and it's terrible. And it's with people with a lot of money, a lot of time, and it's a small fucking circle. yeah, they very small. Well, the reason why I wanted to bring Ashley on here today was she's had a really interesting journey. Not just with, you know, working with us at dog BI school, where there's more to come with Ashley by the way with that. But I'm not gonna officially announce anything yet, but. Her actual journey as a business owner and what she's kind of gone through over the last couple years. And it's more specifically, I would say the last, like what? Six, nine months of everything. Yeah. Yeah. So Ashley, do you wanna start kind of, I it's your short. Story to share, but I think it's such a powerful one. And it also talks about the power of it's not necessarily like picking up your, I don't wanna say, picking up yourself by the bootstraps. Cause that's such outdated, crappy white CIS patriarchy stuff to say, but it's like the power of having the intention to get fucking through this shit. And I feel like a lot of times. There's two sets of people. There's always an outlier though, but where we go through a lot of fucking shit personally, professionally, wherever else. And what happens is we get stuck in it or we just get really uncomfortable and just really move forward. So Ashley's story is of story of kind of being kicked. To the balls and like to the ground and stomped on, and then kind of moving forward and trusting everything. So do you, you can share as much as you want. This is all consent based. So can you share a little bit of the last few months of what happened? Like what was like the, the, the precipice of you making these huge transformations? So, I guess, I guess it all started around October. I had, I had hired another marketing company before I had hooked up with Grasser and, and things started to go south from there, they stopped doing their work and, and I got build the loose screwed, and that, that seemed to kind of kick off the downward spiral for me. Yeah. So I was, I was really struggling to, to get leads, to get people coming in, assign people on mm-hmm just, wasn't making sales. I was really stressed out. And then outside of that, just kind of like things were going on. Yeah. And then even my life thing. Isn't it interesting how we get caught up in the non-life things. yeah. The non are life. Yeah. I, I love a very simple life just work and being by myself because I'm an introvert and that's what I like to do. But I do have friends and family that, that I love. I, but their kind of their stuff started to pile. On top of me. There was a lot of stressful things going on, a lot of things going on with my roommate and her family and her health. And it was. It was all a, a lot to deal with. And I was really struggling, like things were going on yeah. And that was making me feel like I, I just don't have the mental capacity to, to deal with my own clients, their. Like that's draining me to be able to take care of the, the people around me. But I shouldn't, I guess I shouldn't be taking, I don't know how to say this without sounding like an asshole. Say it, say it. No, say it. I shouldn't, I shouldn't be prioritizing other people over my business, Emily and I just recorded something about that. yeah. Yeah. About prioritizing yourself first. Yeah. So I was, I was not prioritizing myself and I was, it, it was starting to affect my business and when hurt to affect my business, then, then I get really concerned cuz that's that's my baby yeah. Yeah. So I was, I was really struggling. I didn't wanna even take on new clients. What were you, what were you struggling with? In my emotions? My stress anxiety, all. Underlying stuff that just kind of seeps into your business and screws everything up. Yeah. Um, and, and again, it's not, it wasn't really my own drama. It was just the drama around me. And I just, I couldn't take it all on and support my students and the, the way I know I can, the way I know I want to. Yeah. And so, yeah, I was like, eh, I don't really wanna take on new clients. I really need money. I'm really stressed out, but I just, I Don. I don't have any speeds left. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I reached out to grassroots cuz that's the right thing to do. Yeah. Hey, by the way, this isn't a grassroots testimonial. This is more of sharing. Ashley's struggle. Cause I, this is such a good story. That's why I wanted to share it. This is not boot licking grassroots, FYI. Yeah. Yeah. But still this is have you? Yeah. So I was like, yeah, this is what's going on. I don't know how to get out of this hole. I, my business is going to shit. I don't know what to do. I'm I'm literally losing my mind. Yeah. So you guys are like, don't worry about it. We got it taken care of. And I'm like, you're like, fuck you, you guys are so nonchalant about it. yeah. Like it's no big deal. These bitches here. and of course he never tell me what the whole big picture is. You're just. Don't worry. So when you tell somebody who's anxious, that's fucking work. just take a breath. Yeah. No, they're not. So yeah, someone dying inside and still freaking out. Yeah. Think my next set of instructions were, you're gonna move to North Carolina. Well, it's funny. So I'm gonna, can I share my side of the story? Yeah, okay. Cause Ashley's being so nonchalant about Ashley had a lot of fucking shit going on and as naturally she's an empathetic person and she cares a lot. Like she fucking cares a lot about the people around her people that are close to her. You know them as well. And she takes in a lot of stuff as well. Like she'll absorb the energy and everything like that, cuz she's just that type of person and Ashley, it's a really rough patch in her personal life and it came to a fucking massive PI and this is not talking about like leads or whatever like that. But she came to a really big point of almost no return. And I remember the conversation. I remembered her posting about it in the group. Cause we have a, a classroom and I saw it. I didn't, the first thing I asked her was, are you safe first and foremost? And then I fucking called. Maggie. And Maggie's, I'm about to call you too. And she's like, can I do the thing that we promised we'd never do again? And I was like, what? She's have a client come stay with us in North Carolina and because we have a couple houses in North Carolina, we have a retreat house and then we had a downtown Asheville house and I'm like, You know what Ashley's worth the risk of doing that. And we're like, Ashley , I think it was Maggie and Jody called you. Right. And they're like, get your ass and move, get pack up and move. Cuz Ashley was in a spot where she couldn't be where she was at. And. She like, it was like, no, almost no options at that point. And we were generally concerned for her, her business first, her business, but also her emotional wellbeing too. Cause you know, they were hard on business, but we also fucking care about our students. Yeah. And really she's like, Ashley, just fucking come. And now she's like, ah, that whole moment of, oh my God, am I really gonna do this? Yeah. So like that, that whole idea of just picking up and leaving, like how the heck do I do that? Because I still have like several months. Lift tracks left to finish in Philadelphia. And I can't do that. no, we're like, we're like, yeah, come you're like, yeah. So I did it anyway. You did do it. You did do it. Yeah. So the, the first time I came out, Maggie and Jody were actually not there. Weird scheduling. They were, I have no idea where they were. They were somewhere. Yeah. Didn't match up. And I, I dropped my mom with me cuz it's a nine and a half hour drive. It's it's long. Yeah. And I was going somewhere. I didn't know where I was going. So my mom keen with me and I got there and I was. Oh, no, you came had a really shitty weekend too. Like really bad weather. Yeah, it snowed it. It was awful. It was so cold. I couldn't even go out and explore because the weather was so terrible, but I did drive around the town and I'm like drive her around as my mom and I just. I just broke down in tears and I was like, I hated here. It's it's like a little city and I hate cities. Everything is, the roads are too close together. There's no sidewalks here. How am I supposed to train reactive dogs here? This is just the worst town ever. So I thought of a million reasons why this was not going to work and how cool this was going to be. And having my mom there. Of course, she, I love her. She's very supportive, but, but that's what moms do. Yeah. They pat you that fear of influence in the back of your head saying, you're right. This isn't going to work out. You're gonna hate it here. How about you? How about this option? How about that option? Going through actions with my mom about why this isn't going to work out. And again, I have another meltdown and text Maggie or call her. I don't remember what it was, but yeah, I remember that. Yeah. It's just shut up. Keep big baby. stop crying every day's fine. And then you're gonna come out like the next week when I'm here and yeah, we're gonna hold your hand and show you around. It's it's okay. So I came out again and Maggie and Jody were there this time. If everything felt better. Cuz I had, I had my business parents and then Jody took me out for lunch. That, that first day I was there and I never drink. And I had a cider with Jody and. Shit faced immediately at lunch. Yeah. From that moment on, I was like, oh my God, I love Ash so I was, I was sold at that point with, with the move that made me feel better. And then, then it was all about figuring out, well, how, how do I run a business in two location? Yeah, it can be. Surprise. Surprise. I didn't think I could do that, but so, so yeah, we got that figured out. I'm still working in Pennsylvania. I go back once a month for a week to work with my clients there and I once a week. Oh, once a month. Oh my God. No gonna say, yeah, no commute, no once a month. And then I'm here for I'm in Asheville for three weeks out of the month. So that's all going great and super amazing. But yeah, so I was bounced around going back and forth. And then, then I had my first, I think my first full month and was April. Okay. Maggie their house, Maggie and Jody. They're about 45 minutes from, I guess we were calling it the halfway house in town. Fishville yeah. Yeah. So I'm stay. I was staying at the halfway house. They were about 45 minutes away. I'm completely alone in a town. I don't know. I know where the grocery store is. That's about it. I don't know anybody else. So I had to focus on except sure. Work. I go outside influence. It was the literally just grassroots. Mm-hmm . Wonderful and absolutely needed that's yeah, that is what I needed. So that first month it was just all right. I'm decompressing from yep. Hit storm that I was just in, I was exhausted. And then, and then here I am alone. I got them to, to think about, except for, for getting these sales done. Yeah. And that was, that was interesting because Chanel . Now I don't have, I have no excuses. Yeah. I am in the most perfect situation I could ask for. And now it's all on me. I can't say, oh, I can't, I couldn't do that because of this bullshit or because of that bullshit. No excuses. It's just, just you and sales and your leads and your phone. Yeah. So. Which, and that was good too, because I'm not, again, I'm not a social person. Doesn't take a lot of socialization to, to fill up my visualization cup, but my socialization cup was totally empty. And I was actually excited to get on the phone and talk to people because I was freaking lovely. And it was also a really nice way to, to get to know the town of Asheville. Like the intention of my sales were not even. Making the sales. Yeah, I have to do that, but, but the, the main conversation was just getting to know the people in the area. Yeah. And that was, that was really cool. And. And I started to hit my sales goals that I never thought that I could accomplish. I, I did it once a year ago and was never able to duplicate that mm-hmm but started happening. And that, that was really cool. Yeah. Ah, well, that's also, it's, it's so funny you cause a lot of the stuff you're talking about, like literally we just did a whole podcast kind of afternoon with me and Emily sitting down and we talked about a lot about sales and you know, getting your shit straight, like getting, yeah, you have your business, but like you can make all the money, but then you have to make sure you take care of yourself and stuff like that. Hey, Hey dog, business owner. I see you listening and nodding your head. Do me a hot favor. If you are loving this episode and are feeling like. I need to talk to Kristen or the dog bid school team, do yourself and your business. A huge favor. Go to dog bid school.com/work with us this way. You can see what we're all about. Fill out in a simple application and get direct line to my calendar. Yeah. Like even my assistant really doesn't get access to my calendar. That way we can shoot the shit. See what's working in your dog business. What's not working. And then make your dog BI goals into a fucking reality and plan. Go to dog BIS school.com/work with us. See you there. And one of the ones was around like just fucking getting on the phone to talk to people and just, it's not even like the purpose or the intention. And, you know, we talked about this in the quarterly, too, the intention to get on the phone, to make sales, it's the intention to make connections to people and actually understand who they are at a human level and what they're struggling with and everything like that. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it's also super huge that you've done cause like, listen, like. Transitioning from you literally went through a major fucking life transition and it's, you don't even act like you said, , you know what I mean? Melt days work, I just moved. I uprooted my entire life and had a meltdown like 10, approximately 10.4 times. But I do wanna just fucking take a moment and cuz like that's not easy, like that in itself is its own form of trauma. you know what I mean? Trauma? Yeah. So when I, when I went back to Phillys last time I did, I stopped in and saw my old roommate mm-hmm and I was talking to her about. Just all the life changes and everything. Yeah. Like, yeah, I was, I was really busy this month. I didn't, didn't really hit my goals. I know I can do better. And she said, did you, did you ever take a minute to look back on all of the changes you just gave? Yeah. All of the things you did and I'm like, no, yeah. Like for real, like you literally have done. a lot of people have said they wanted to do, and they've never done it. Like you fucking, I think the biggest thing is like, trust. Trust in the unknown, cuz that's a huge thing. But you took on a lot of risk to get yourself. Well, you first and foremost understood a situation that was not healthy to you anymore, but also you took on a lot of risk by up and fucking moving. And then again, I know how the mom stuff goes, cuz they wanna fucking like at the end of the day, whatever your relationship is with your mom, like there's always gonna be that mothering of like they're gonna coddle you and be like, and they're gonna. Solidify. If you're having doubts about something just to make, you know, make you feel better, but you fucking stuck with it. And I know there was points that you were really fucking scared and unsure. Can you talk about those a little bit of, I trusted of trusting in it. Yeah. So the whole thing was terrifying, right? Yeah. Like you said, that in itself was its own trauma. Yeah. But I. I really trust grassroots. You guys have, have proven yourselves that you really have our best interests in mind. You're you're going to take care of us and you have a plan. Yeah. Even, even if I don't know what the plan is, you're always like 20 steps ahead of us. Yeah. So you, you know, what's up. So when. Faced me with that challenge to move. It was, yeah, I have, I have a million reasons why this is not going to go the way I, but you guys are like, no, how it's going to go. Cuz we've done this a million times. Yeah. And I know that. And Maggie said something. I forget what her exact wording was in one of my meltdown phone calls. Mm-hmm it was something like, well, you. You can be uncomfortable anywhere. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. So I was all right. Yeah. I'm, I'm pretty uncomfortable in the situation I'm in now. Yep. I'm less, more uncomfortable. Can I be yeah. So just screw it. I'm gonna do it because I can continue to be uncomfortable or I move and have the opportunity to not be uncomfortable at some point, and I'm not gonna get out of it unless I do something. Yeah. Just fucking do it. Yeah. And that's kind of been my mindset over these past few months. Is that anytime something scares the shit outta me, I take note of it. It it's making me have some feelings. Why am I having these feelings? Mm-hmm but do it anyway. Yeah. And it doesn't, it doesn't matter if I don't know what the full plan is. I, I trust you guys that you have knock out and just do the little steps that you give me and the purchase of the pudding everything's working out. it's almost like we're business psychic sometimes. yeah. remember that one guy. I was like that Ashley had a fucking pain. The ask client. I forgot what his name, what was his name? Ken. Kevin, Kevin. And I was like, this is what you need to say to him. And this is what his reaction's gonna be step by step. And then what happened two weeks later? Exact word, everything you said, going and up and happened or, yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing it's, you know, I know some people can get triggered by like sometimes we're so nonchalant the way we passed information and it's almost like. Yeah, but everything's at risk and it's like, no, just do it this way. You know? Yeah. We're the reason why, you know, dog to school, especially me, Maggie, Emily, mahogany, everybody else that's here. It's, we've seen it all. It's really scary out, which we've seen and we've been through. So, you know, this is your time, but we've been through so many different scenarios and situations. We are so highly in tune of what's gonna work out and what's not gonna work. and also at the end of the day, too, it's all about like how you execute, right? Like you went and you executed. Exactly. And listen, our word is not God or en gold or engraved. I always say that I always have humbleness to what we teach, but when you do it and you lay it out the way we've done and the way you did it, and you stuck to the path, that's the reason why you had what was like a 15 K month or something or 20 K month. Yeah. Yeah. And it's yeah, you're sitting alone and you have nothing else to do. It's like, no. Do B, C and D and you're like, fuck. You know what I mean? Yeah. so, so yeah. That's you you've proven a million on the smaller scale that yeah. Yeah. Warren business. I think what's going on. That's why we have the right jar. The magging Chris jar. Have you deposited into that yet? I, I owe a lot of money. A lot of money to, yeah, well also too. It's again, I do wanna shoot it back to you and put it back to you. What you did was not easy and you know, it's, it's funny, cause it's always gonna be a number. We would say it's the numbers game with anything. Most people cannot do what you did. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm being serious. I don't, you're about to cry. Stop. I see your face is getting red, but no, I feel like I'm, I'm not special though. Like I, you say that not everybody can do this, no task that you gave me. They weren't actually hard. They are hard to execute if your emotional shit is there. yeah. Doesn't task themselves. But when you did the task before you started the task, were they hard to start? Oh yeah. Terrify side. Yeah, exactly. So a lot of people get stuck in the purgatory of actually starting tasks like that. Right. Asking somebody to be like, we didn't say Ashley, you need to move. You know what I mean? We said, Ashley, this is the problem you're having. Let's be really fucking real. Right. Let's be really fucking real of what your situation is right now. It can go one or two ways. You can stay in the same situation, potentially move where you're at. Go to another toxic situation. or you can trust in the process. and pack up and get the fuck out and, you know, let us kind of do some of the heavy lifting for you. Let us kind of lay out the steps right now, by the way, if you're a listener and you're like, help me move, I'm not gonna do that. This is super, super specific to a per certain situation. Right. But you were able to actually, I don't wanna, I don't wanna sound like wooy, but like surrender into the situ you know what I mean? Surrender into the trust. Yeah. Right. And. Yeah. That's exactly what it was. It's I, I accept that I'm in a really shitty situation right now. Yeah. And I really don't have a choice. Yeah. I just, where I'm at, or I can do the thing. So that, that first step did, it was terrifying, but I also felt like I didn't really have a choice, so well, even, even honestly, taking inventory and recognizing you were in a city situation, That's a huge, like a lot of people will not even recognize that, like whatever, they'll turn their back to it, like an unhealthy situation. So that's a fucking huge step. And then asking for help is another thing too versus suffering alone and that's, and that can be really hard to do. Yeah. Cause I, and, and receiving the help from you guys that in itself was a lesson. I, that was hard. Yeah. Like I felt I am, I'm not worthy of this. I read that. Yeah. Yeah. I felt a lot of that. Like why, why I'm not special? Why me, so that, that in itself was a lesson, but making, making that first step, that surrendering to the process to surrendering to my shit and getting through it. Yeah. I felt like I didn't have a choice. The rest of it. Mm-hmm . Like actually doing the work after I got here. Um, those were choices. Yeah. That was the easy shit. Your sales was the easy part. it was, yeah, it became easy. But the initial, I mean, there's still fear and anxiety. Yeah. There's always gonna be, I wasn't totally cur of all of . No, you never get cured to the, the fear and the anxiety, but those were. Those were more conscious choices to, to make the right decisions to mm-hmm direction that I know I should be going in, but it was still, still hard to make those first steps of okay, I'm going to, I'm just gonna dial all day long. Yeah. I don't do that because I don't like to show up on the phone, but that's yeah. Made close to do that. And then it got easier with practice. Yeah. Yeah. And lowness yeah, well also too, it's, you know, Kind of going back. We'll talk about the dials in a second, but like going back. And so a lot of dog trainers, like y'all are fucking stubborn as motherfuckers and it's like, you guys are stubborn. Like I'm a stubborn bitch too, but like a lot of dog trainers that have kind of started from scratch, built their businesses. They're so used to giving the help versus receiving the help. So when it's time to ask for the help, and I know this all go kind of goes into inner trauma and also like childhood shit. It's super hard to ask for help and get direct, help and feedback without, you know, The own bullshit in the head. Right. And like you said, like you even said that like certain things started to bring up, like us giving the help and you receiving the help also started like saying, oh my God, am I worthy of this? Am I doing this? Yeah. You know what I mean? And I bet you anything, Ashley, a lot of that shit used to show up in your fucking business. Oh, yeah, it does. you're like, bitch, it still does. Have you heard me lately that I charged yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing. It's like a lot. And again, it goes back to a lot of the little things that we have, like interchangeably in us that we Harbor and, you know, to making sure we're taking care of ourselves. A lot of the things that we struggle with will always show up in our business. Right. So being able, being like, getting like really great help and being like, oh my God, am I worthy of doing this? That's gonna translate to your sales. That's gonna translate to your program prices and everything else like that. So, yeah, and I think this whole like journey of being a business owner is it's bigger than the business. This is that's changing myself as a person and it's all through traumas out center of business. Mm-hmm but I learning it to ruin my business. Yeah. And that, I think that. Pretty amazing. It's fucking it. Like that's, that's big. That goes beyond training dogs. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, so anxiety, for example, I have suffered with anxiety my entire life. Mm-hmm that I've taken medication, I've gone to therapy. Nothing really helps me, but going, starting a business and, and being with grassroots, this is, this has been. The best therapy I've ever the most expensive therapy you've ever had. Yeah, it really is but I it's, it forces me to do the work. It forces me to, to look at things in a different perspective. And it's also a little bit easier to look at your own shit when it's your business and not necessarily your personal self mm-hmm cause then. There's some more traumatic ceilings. emotional damage. Yeah. there, but yeah, your, your business is kind of your, your mirror to who you are. And what's what you have deep down inside there that you need to really work on to, to help yourself become a better person and to help other people become better people. Yeah. Pretty vibration and shit like that. Yeah. Fuck. So in summary, everybody, Ashley was in a bad situation. Having a meltdown freaking out, asked for help, God help freaked out about the help. Made a decision, came down to see a new city that she had no idea over by the way, the new the city needed a really good dog trainer came down, hated it. Absolutely had another meltdown accepted. The help for that meltdown came down, made the decisions. Got on the phone, made 15 K in sales, which is not the, that's not the, the, the moral of the story at all, by the way, I don't fucking, if she even made a dollar, I wouldn't have cared, but she fucking did the work made a huge transition. And now she's sitting here. Sitting pretty and doing more work and consistently involving. So listen, Ashley went through some shit y'all and you know, again, that's why I wanted to kind of have her on here and share her story on the platform because it's fucking, it's, it's powerful. It really is. And you know, you just know there's always gonna be help out there. It's just asking for help, surrendering to situation and mostly. Doing the work that goes along with it, like you can ask for help, you can get the help, but it's you committing fully to work. That's really uncomfortable and really trusting the process. That's another thing too. Ashley, you trusted the process to a fucking tea. Yeah. Yeah. even not, Baize it like, like sometimes we'll give people like things to do and like, I'll have a call with somebody, right. Somebody will pay for a consult with me. I'm like, okay. Do B, C and D. And because me, I I'm quality control person. I'm like, okay, are they doing it? And I see it. And I'm like, why'd you do it this way? So the way I told you, and then they were like, no, you know what I mean, Ashley. So, yeah. And. That was a, a small lesson. I learned previously that if you don't follow the grassroot, for word, it's not gonna go the way you want it to, it will get the worst way possible. yeah. So like with small things like ads and stuff, we, yeah, not a big deal, but I mean, it is you. I want the results. So hopeful. But when it comes to such a giant thing, like my entire life yeah. I'm going to follow the step by step process. Exactly. So I don't fuck this up. Yeah. Would be such a huge focal, but so I, yeah, I put my entire heart and soul of trust into you. Right. Thank you. Keep trusting us. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to . Well, Ashley, I appreciate you sharing your story. It was fucking awesome. Thank you for taking your time. I know you're busy. So training all the dogs in Asheville and becoming the best, the leading Asheville dog trainer. Now mm-hmm , she's like hiding her face. She's like stop I'm flushing. Ashley, what, what's your business name? Where can people find you? I am. Hello. School's job training and you can find me on Facebook at little Rascals training, my website, www dot little Rascals, training.com, Instagram and TikTok at little Rascals training as well. I will link it all so people can go in stock you, and if you like her brand, guess who made her brand. I got, I got an email just the other day. Somebody saw my logo on my car and they were like, that's really cute. So thank you for sharing that email.. Okay, thank you. Some dog training. Thank for the Compli on my logo. Exactly. All right, Ashley, it's been real. Thank you so much for taking the time today. I appreciate you. Yeah, no problem. I appreciate you too. I'll talk to you later. All.