Grow Strong Leaders Podcast

374: The Line You Never Cross

Meredith Bell / John Castelly Episode 374

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Pressure doesn’t reveal your values. It exposes whether you’ve defined them at all. In this conversation with John Castelly, you’re challenged to think about who you are as a leader before the moment arrives when everything is on the line. 

You’ll hear how John built and scaled ethics and compliance at ServiceNow and now navigates high-stakes decisions as General Counsel at Promise. Through real stories, you’ll discover how small compromises become major failures, why trust is the foundation of every organization, and what it takes to lead with clarity when speed, growth, and pressure collide. 

John is General Counsel at Promise. Before that he built and led ethics and compliance at scale as SVP, Legal – Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer at ServiceNow. He has deep knowledge and experience as a senior executive on issues concerning risk assessment, fraud prevention, compliance practices, supervision, industry rules, regulations, and policies. 

You’ll discover:

  • How small “harmless” choices can lead to major ethical failures 
  • Why defining your values before a crisis is essential 
  • What it takes to build trust as the foundation of culture 
  • How to balance speed and risk in high-growth environments 
  • Practical ways to create a culture where people speak up

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