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#88: The Power of Manifestation in Christian Faith (with Rachel Bayford)

• Rachel Bayford • Season 3 • Episode 88

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Christianity and manifestation can indeed go in the same sentence–it’s about allowing the positive flow of energy to create abundance, which essentially what prayer is all about.

I believe that God is the Great Creator...of all.  And with that, we can take the steps to live in a way that aligns with where we want to be in life, but ultimately it is up to God.  

We can't create anything from nothing, it is all God-given.  And yet, there is a way of being or living in this world that also allows for us to create the mindset and open heart to connect with the goodness that the love of God has to offer.

In this podcast episode, my guest, Rachel Bayford, and I discuss the compatibility of Christianity and manifesting. We explore the idea that manifesting is about being open to creative possibilities, making intentional requests, and connecting with inner guidance. The episode highlights our personal stories related to manifesting and emphasizes the importance of positivity and faith in this practice, suggesting that it can indeed align with Christian beliefs.


Here's what you'll learn in today's episode:

  1. What manifesting is
  2. Why it's OK to manifest even if you're Christian
  3. The steps to manifest
  4. What manic manifesting is and why it won't work for you.

A little about Rachel:
Having studied Wayne Dyer's work for many years Rachel believes that “everything is perception and when we change the way we look at things, those things we look at, change!” Rachel prides herself in reframing and turning negative emotions into positive feelings and thoughts.

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Breathe to Flow Weekly Breathwork Class

Grab the full show notes at https://www.cairnyogawellness.com/podcast88.

More Episodes Like This One:
#74: The Universe's Pace is the Right Pace
#75: Gratitude, the Practice of Being "Blessed"
#57: Spiritual Does NOT Equal Religion

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Cathy:

Can Christianity and manifesting go in the same sentence? I believe they can and we're going to talk all about that today with my guest, rachel Bayford./ Welcome to episode 88 of the show. I am grateful that you're here and taking a listen today. This is a little bit longer episode, so you might have to break it up into a couple of listening sessions, but it's a great one to take along with you on the walk or when you're making dinner or in a car ride. So. Have a listen. Today, we are talking all about manifestation now as a Christian. In my mind, I've kind of had questions about this in my life. I don't think I've probably ever shied away from it or thought it was dark arts or Wrong necessarily. But. I just had questions about it. And questions about whether or not. It works, what it means, what it's about. And you might have those same questions too. Whether it's something that we even should be doing, I guess. And I'll tell you what, as I have dived into reading the Bible this year. I'm reading the Bible in a year. If I haven't told you that yet. But, um, You know, the thing that I can take away from this podcast episode. And from reading the Bible is that it's. A positive flow of energy. And that's the kind of love that God wants us to have for each other and especially for him. And that's the kind of love that. He wants us to know that he has for us, is this positive? Love and forgiveness. And. Manifesting is really all about being open to the positivity of abundance that we can have in our lives. Yes, there are going to be hard times and also we can still keep that clear vision that clear hope that. Positivity and abundance can be a part of our lives and can exist. So, let that be a little bit of a nudge. If this episode is one that you might even be questioning whether or not to listen to, because it is really beautiful. And my guest, Rachel buffered. Is brilliant. And she's super fun to listen to because of course she has an English accent. So it is. Just a lovely time to listen to, but like I said, you might need to break it up into smaller bits. Here's what you'll learn in today's episode. You'll learn what manifesting is, why it's okay to manifest, even if you're Christian. The steps to manifest and what manifest. And what manic manifesting is and why it won't work for you. The one last little bit of info. I want to tell you about manifesting before we jump in, is that I've done some work with manifesting and had some pretty amazing results, quite honestly. In my thoughts on this over the years, I have basically come to the conclusion that As God being the creator of all and all things good. That's what manifesting involves is positive energy. A positive outlook and belief and opening the channels for that positivity to actually come into your life. The Bible states, even that. God will grant you the desires of your heart. If you believe and trust in him. Now that might not always be in this lifetime. But. When we opened the channels of positivity. When we open our hearts. And treat others how we want to be treated. Positive things happen. And we can begin to call those in with the actions that we take, whether that's visualization, whether that's meditating, whether that's prayer, whether that is physically moving our bodies to take action. We have the ability to call in what we want in this life. It doesn't always mean that what we ask for, we are going to receive. But what if there is something even better waiting for us? Something to think about... And before we go any further, I also want to invite you to be a part of my weekly breathe to flow class. This is a class that takes place every week. On Wednesdays it's currently at 1:00 PM. I'm not opposed to moving it to a different time. 1:00 PM central time. But it is basically$9 a class and I will link to it in the show notes. It's a 30 minute guided breath work class, and you're saying, why would I need that? I breathe every day on my own, without somebody telling me how to breathe. Let me tell you friends. It is super beneficial to take that little bit of a pause. And honestly, I would encourage you to do some form of intentional breath work every single day. But this is just offering the opportunity for you to have the space held for you for someone else to take you through a guided breath work, practice that. Can alter how you feel. That's a midweek reset, kind of, it can connect you with yourself. It can connect you with spirit. It can connect you with the intention that maybe You need to let go, or you want to move forward or whatever your intention may be. It just gives you a. Place. And a held pause in your week. To reset. And to recharge so that you're ready for the rest of the week. And it's all virtual, so anybody can take part in it. And that's the great thing. You don't have to come to the studio. You don't even have to leave your desk at work. You could just take a 30 minute break. Tune in and listen, your camera doesn't even have to be on when you're on the zoom. It's a zoom call. So you camera doesn't have to be on. You could go to your car and take a little bit of a break. If you're working. And sit in your car and do the breath work. But I will tell you. That. Nine times out of 10 when somebody else leads me through a Breath work practice. It is so much more beneficial to me. Then when I lead myself through it. Even though I have the tools and I have the skills and I have the ability to do it on my own, here is just a different energy and just a different experience when you are. In community and held in that space where someone else. Gets to guide you through something. That can help you and hold your hand in a sense. In letting go. In creating the vision that you want to create. There's accountability in that. And there's also encouragement and the feeling of being lifted up and supported by someone else. So I want to invite you to be a part of that weekly class. It happens. Right here on your device, whatever you're listening to, you can tune in or you can tune in on your computer. And I would love to have you, so I'll drop a link in the show notes. On with the show. Welcome to the show, Rachel. We are talking manifesting today, and I asked you to be on the show because you have a beautiful show that that kind of led me to believe that, you know, a little bit of something about manifesting. And so I just wanted to get your take on it. We've also had some conversations about just believing in a lot of different things and being open to receiving different ideas and different thoughts out there. So my initial thought in having you on was that I wanted to talk out this idea of Christianity and manifesting. I've told you that I am Christian and yet I still also believe in manifesting. And for some people that can seem outrageously wrong. I also believe that when we are someone who believes in this higher divine power or energetic force that resides within us, we have to be curious with what it can do and with how we can use that energy. And it's all a matter of connecting the energy around us and connecting the energy that's available to us. And that's kind of how I see manifesting and also I believe that that's, as a Christian, the Holy Spirit, the energy of that Holy Spirit living or residing within us, and then we get to choose and we get to use how we use that positive light, how we use that positive energy to call forth abundance and positivity that we might desire in this world. Well, that doesn't mean that we're not going to have trouble and things are always going to be easy breezy, but we do have the ability to transcend into this higher state of perception and experiencing life. Does that make sense?

Rachel:

Absolutely. Yeah. And I just want to say thank you for having me over on your show. It's a pleasure to be here. I am absolutely so excited to talk about this topic. It's one of my favorite things and I absolutely love the whole idea of manifesting. And I love your thoughts on it. So that's awesome. And I love your spin and how you kind of, just brought that Christianity into it. And it's interesting concept because one of my beliefs is it doesn't really matter what religion we are. Essentially, it's the same thing. And you picked up on two words that I absolutely resonate with. And when you were saying that, I was like, yes. So one of the words is curious. And I think in terms of manifesting, it's essentially like being curious. And that curiosity is where it begins, I think. And then you also mentioned like the Holy Spirit within us. So, yeah. Everything is energy. We are just energetic beings. And, yeah, it's my belief that we have spirit within us. I think, yeah, the curiosity, going back to that, one of the main phrases that I would associate with manifesting is being open to creative possibilities.

Cathy:

how do you define manifestation?

Rachel:

How do I define manifestation? Asking the universe, making wishes it's just knowing that we can create our reality and trusting that. I think, yeah, that's hard to say how I would define it, but yeah, I'll go

Cathy:

with that. That sounds pretty good. Sounds pretty good. Being open to receiving it and being curious about it

Rachel:

I read that somewhere a while back. I don't know who coined the phrase. I think that is really kind of what manifesting is, right? It's just being open and being curious about creative possibilities. But I mean, manifesting has become such a popular term nowadays. And it's funny because we see like manifesting 101, manifest this. I don't know about you, but I remember as a kid. It wasn't called that, but it was still a thing. So for example I remember in my teens, I would call it cosmic ordering. And essentially I, yeah, and I remember one of my first jobs, I just knew I had this sense of being like, I just had this feeling inside me that it's absolutely going to happen. It's absolutely like non negotiable. And I remember saying to my mom and she was like, how are you so certain? You know, your CV, your resume isn't. Up to scratch, and I was like, nope, it's gonna happen. And she was like, but how do you know? Because I asked the clouds. And she was like, what? And this was before I knew anything about manifesting. I didn't know what it was called. But I just knew that I was being guided. And it just felt right. And that's happened with a million things. Like I could give you so many examples from all of my life. Yeah. So is that

Cathy:

you, it's tuning into this inner guidance, right? Yeah. Honestly, I like to think of the inner guidance as the voice of God within you. And it's like the, and when you can get quiet enough to just hear that and to just know, but we have to stop all the busyness, like we have to slow down and stop all the chaos that we tend to create or invite into our lives. We have to be quiet and then we can hear that voice. And it's really interesting. So if you, it wasn't called manifestation and you called it, what did you say? Cosmic ordering?

Rachel:

Cosmic ordering. But even before I knew that phrase, it was just asking the clouds, speaking to the sky and making wishes.

Cathy:

Some people call that prayer, right? Like absolutely.

Rachel:

And I guess. Yeah, it was, I guess it is prayer. And I remember as a small child, the first thing I learned at school in the way of God was Lord, the Lord's prayer. And very often as a child, if I felt scared or a little bit uncertain. I straight away was like, I'll do the Lord's prayer. And so I guess that, and that kind of that energy was always around me because my mom used to go to church, my grandma my great grandmother, she believed in God and would go to church and very Christian family. Yeah. It was kind of. But also a little bit witchy. Yes,

Cathy:

yes. And I think that's what of when they think of manifesting. Like, ooh, you're summoning you know, evil spirits or something. Yeah. Which, it is all how you the intention you place behind it. Like,

Rachel:

it's intentional. And again, even referring to a witch my mum used to say, oh yeah, I'm a witch but a white witch. And it would make it acceptable. What is that supposed to mean even? Yeah, what does that even mean? But I go to church so it's okay because it kind of like counterbalances this out. She's a clean witch, it's okay. Clean, I'm white. But yeah I guess I used to see it happening as well as a child because I remember my great granny passed away and I remember that my mom would still talk to her, and so her spirit was still around us. And then we would ask her for stuff, even as simple as just a parking space. And I remember my mom would go, Oh, there's no parking anywhere. And she'd be driving around the parking lot, and then she'd be like, Come on, granny, where's the space? And then right before our eyes, somebody would back out of the space, and vroom, we would go in. And it was like, oh. This stuff works. Beautiful. Next time I need something, let's ask granny. Granny was spirit. It was just source. It was just something. And then that was become a belief. And even to this day, like I will still tap into that and be like, oh, granny, help me out. You know? Yeah. And isn't that amazing then? I don't know whether it's just granny or whether it's collective or who

Cathy:

it is. But when you slow down and pause and then ask and invite. The energy in or invite the the openness for receiving whatever you're asking for. It's that openness and that ask and ask and ask and ask and ask, or manifest manifest and like try and try and try, but. Often, I think that there's some sort of little blockage that might still be there. And lots of times it's a little limiting belief that we just have a little bit of doubt that for whatever reason, it's not truly possible what you're interested in. And it's

Rachel:

really interesting that you say that, and I can resonate with that story because just talk about myself a little bit here. So I've manifested everything from such a young age, including houses. jobs, moving cities, like moving to London was a really big deal. Like London is bloody expensive, right? And it always seems so far off, but I was like, nope, where there's a will, there's a way. I've seen it in my life path. It's going to happen. I'm going to manifest and over time I did. I've manifested cars, I've manifested money, I've manifested friends, I've manifested to do training, do my NLP practitioner. You name it, I manifested it, except... Men. And I can't manifest a bloody boyfriend. I am so not successful at finding a man and finding love.

Cathy:

So what is the link there?

Rachel:

You just nailed it. Limiting beliefs. Because For the longest time and I've done some work around this and it's getting better, and I can see it coming now, but for the longest time, I never felt worthy. I never saw myself as a wife. I never saw myself as like a family person. I never I couldn't see it. And of course, the universe isn't gonna just deliver it if I can't see it happening. Like, how can I possibly bloom and manifest when it's just non existent to me right now?

Cathy:

Yes! Like I was just saying, with my vision of it's fuzzy. Well, yeah. What's getting in the way then?

Rachel:

So this is it. let's talk about. Suggestions on how we manifest, and one of the first thing I say is be clear, and this is a thing, like, it's all about intention, and you have to be clear, and you have to be open, and this is the problem with me finding a man. Is realistically, if I'm honest let's get truthful. I've been on billions of dating apps, Tinder, Bumble you name it. I've stalked people on Facebook. I've stalked people on Instagram, but really... But let's get clear. You're not really a stalker. It's okay. Yeah, I'm not a real stalker, just a, you know, a stalker stalker. But when we actually really get down to it, I'm not giving a clear message to the universe. Because it's fuzzy, like you just said, and my intention is all over the place because I don't really know what I want. If someone said to me, have you got a type? I'm like, no, I haven't got a type. I don't know who I want. One minute I want a British guy, then I want an American guy, then I'm like, oh no, actually maybe someone from Egypt. It'd be quite nice. You know, you were saying this. to me the other day. Go ahead. My friend said to me the other day, right, it's the new moon, let's set our intentions. What do you want? Tall, dark and handsome. I'm like, no, I don't mind if they're short. I don't know what I want. So how the hell can the universe deliver this to me? I can't call it in because I really have no clue.

Cathy:

Yeah. You know, that's funny that you say all of this, because I remember being in this space, in the same space that you are. I don't know what, before I married my husband and like just dating guys. And I mean, back then there wasn't dating apps, but it was this point where I finally just sat down and I made a list. What are the things that I find important? What do I want in my partner? And. Made this list and some of the things are not there with my husband But for the most part like he fits the bill like he not good And that was a I don't know my friend said hey, I've got the guy you're gonna marry So whenever you're ready to meet him, you just let me know. So Oh, wow Anyway, it worked out but I've written so many. I had to get clear on These are the things Yeah. But you need to actually get clear maybe and say, no, this is what I really want. I absolutely do. And I don't want this because of this.

Rachel:

Yeah. I absolutely. Well, this is the thing. Cause there's there's part of me where I've almost called in the wrong energy, but I focused on what I don't want. So then I'm essentially telling the universe that's where the energy is. I need to raise my vibration around that. And like you say, get clear, but, and also be open again, going back to what we said about being open to creative possibilities. And I think that I'm very closed because, potentially, even if Mr. Wright knocked on my door, I would be like, Oh, sorry, I'm busy, I've got to go to the gym, then I'm doing a podcast, and then I'm doing this, and like, everything, you name it, I can give you an excuse. I have got every excuse in the book. So what

Cathy:

are you afraid

Rachel:

of? Ah, yeah. Where's the fear lie, hey? Yeah. And this is it. It comes down to me. I'm like, believing in myself, self esteem. Am I even worthy of love? You know, I wouldn't recognize love if it whacked me in the face or knocked on my front door today. So,

Cathy:

yeah. So, when we're talking manifesting, you first have to be clear. You do. Yeah. And you have to also be open to exploring what it is you really want in order to get clear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Rachel:

Yeah, definitely. It is funny because again, like I said, I'm going back to manifesting jobs. I was so clear I was adamant it from the age of seven. I knew that's what I wanted to do Don't ask me how or why but I just knew I was like that's in my life path. That's what I'm gonna do My school teachers thought I was crazy They're like don't you want to train to be a nurse or a vet or you know, I didn't know pilot and I'm like, nope I know what I want and so it was very clear and that's why when it came into my life, it was no surprise. It was like, yeah, well, I asked for that.

Cathy:

Yeah. So it's almost like, do you feel like some of these things we know at a young age I think we have better access to the, to that inner guidance and intuition at a young age before we have been cheated and before we've been clouded by like life and people. Not believing in our dreams and our hopes and our wants and desires so that we shut them down and then we don't take the opportunity to actually get quiet enough and listen and to give ourselves permission to be okay with saying yes to what we really want. Yeah, for sure. Because we put these limits and we put them in a box and say, nope, that's not okay. That's not what I really want.

Rachel:

Yeah, absolutely. The limiting beliefs. But yeah, as a kid, definitely, we're more open aren't we? Because in the creative possibilities, because we're magical and everything's an adventure. And like you say, before we get jaded and before someone says, well, no, you can't do that. Like, you know, there's a hundred rules and, oh, okay. Well, before the relationship that hurts you so therefore you are then fearful of like, oh my god. Yeah, let's move away from that idea. Let's avoid pain Because naturally we want to you know It's easier to kind of almost avoid pain than it is to move toward pleasure

Cathy:

Yeah, oh for sure.

Rachel:

So even though we know oh, that would be such a nice experience over there But actually, no, I'm gonna sit here and just avoid that happening again and then Almost while we're focusing on that, we're then telling the universe, telling source, telling our inner beings going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like that's scary. And then that's where the energy goes.

Cathy:

So yeah, it's interesting. How do you unblock that? It is. Yeah.

Rachel:

I mean, how do you unblock that? That's another topic. I

Cathy:

know, I know it is. Okay. Back to this manifesting the job thing though. Yeah. I can relate. When I was in high school, I, Went to, went on a college visit, I feel like, or I don't know if I went on a college visit or just went to visit my sister where she was going to college and we went into the rec center and I was like, I'm going to work here like this is where I'm going to work when I come to college. But then I was adamant that like, I was not going to that school. I went through this phase where it was like, no, I'm going to look at all these other schools. I'm not going to go to that school. But in the end. That one just felt like I knew that that was where I needed to go to school. That was like my home that felt like home when I went to visit the, when I went to visit my sister there, when I don't know how it went exactly, but sure enough, like I knew I was going to work at the rec center. My freshman year of college, then where did I get a job? And it was a piece of cake. Like my sister's sorority sister had a job there and she was like, yeah, we're hiring right now. Come to this, whatever you're going to, you'll be hired. Love it. I was hired and it was my favorite job to this day. I'm not even kidding you. That's the favorite job I've ever had in my entire life. So many great memories. I worked there all five years. I went to school, it was, it was like, it was one of those moments where I knew. This is where I'm... Supposed to be, and I think you have those also, I had this conversation last week with someone with houses. I think often when you go into a house or an environment, you just know this is where I'm supposed to be. I mean, you work in real estate, so you know, people get that feeling. Absolutely. And

Rachel:

if you don't feel it, it's not happening. Right.

Cathy:

Right.

Rachel:

Yeah. Interesting that you just said about where you worked and the place, and then you knew that. And you just said it felt like home. Yeah, so Yeah, that's I was gonna touch on that like when it comes to manifesting the top most important thing is feel it People talk about vision boards all the time, but more importantly, I think we need to attach the emotion So it's all like we talked about being clear and being open, but then the next step is Feel it Like, you just hit the nail on the head there with the feel like home. You just knew it was going to happen you knew we were going to work there, because as soon as you went there, you're like, yeah, it feels right. Like you just said, with walking to a house, you're viewing and you're like, yeah, it feels right, it feels like home. And then, yeah, then you can visualize and go, oh yeah, I can see my couch over there, I can see myself living here, I can see myself sunbathing in that garden. Great. The feeling, like, the emotion has to be there. And then I think when you're going to manifest anything, it is so important to attach the emotion to it. And then that ties in with the NLP, like the Neuro Linguistic Programming, because it's about all of our senses, our five senses and our map of the world. Throw that into manifestation, it adds to it, like it adds a flavor to it. Like it's all really good. Like you've got them to manifest things like the recipe. And you're asking and you say, right, here are the ingredients, but then you chuck in the emotion. You're like, that's when we get the actual delicious food.

Cathy:

That's when the cohesion happens. Yes. Everything comes together. It comes together. Yeah. I love it.

Rachel:

Yeah. Okay. Because it's that feeling as the feeling as like of certainty. You can feel that in your gut, can't you? Like, when something feels right, you just know. And then again, when something feels off, equally, you're like, Nope, this is not for me, thanks, bye. Get out of here.

Cathy:

How do you get to that point where you can feel that though? I'm sure people have been to the place where they feel like they know something is supposed to happen and then it doesn't, it's not really great results or it's not, you know, it doesn't, life doesn't unfold how they thought it would. So then they start to doubt their intuition or that inner guidance because. Oh, well, I trusted this, though. That felt good in the moment. It's not just a surface level feeling.

Rachel:

Uh, yeah, no, it's really deep. But again, it's that when you just said that, that trusting it, that's the biggest thing as well is having trust, having unwavering faith. Absolutely. Even the unanswered prayers, even the unanswered manifestations, intentions, whatever we call it, We have to trust that actually, you know what, the greater power, God, source, whatever we want to call it, actually has a plan much grander than our own. So whilst we think, oh yeah, like I really, really want that. If that's not meant to be, we have to trust that actually, you know what, that's not meant to be.

Cathy:

I'm so glad you brought that up because we have freedom. Yeah, it's so hard that one.

Rachel:

Yeah.

Cathy:

We still have to take action and make the steps towards moving towards what we want. Yeah. It's not, and I said this at the beginning, like we can't, we are not God or source or whatever that creates out of thin air. Yeah. We have to take the steps and put this, put the steps in motion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we do, because it can't

Rachel:

just magically happen on its own, like we, we're having a human experience, so we have to go through, like you said, a certain amount of steps. And, yes, it's all well and good putting the thought out there, putting the manifestation, asking the clouds, as we called it earlier, but, like you say, yeah, absolutely, we have to take action. Take, for example my move to London. I knew in my head, in my mind, in my thoughts, I'd visualized it, I had the feeling, I just, I could see myself. Spending the summer in the park time and time again. And I had this feeling I could almost feel the sun on my skin. I could smell the air, like everything added up. But if I didn't physically get off my ass and go and view the house and make some calls, isn't just going to happen. Like I had to pack my car full of all my worldly belongings, had to physically drive to London, view the house, you know, pay the deposit, sort my stuff out, get the job, like. Yeah. Take action. It was all well and good dreaming about it, but true manifesting is when you are, again, open to the creative possibility, but also prepared to take action. You can't just sit there and magically just think, Oh yeah, it will just land on my lap. No, this

Cathy:

is human experience. And yeah, and that's the balance in harmony in life, right? Is in taking action and in receiving. And having them blend together. Yeah. But then, and

Rachel:

Then the best bit comes when you have to surrender. And you have to just let go and go. Exactly. I've done my bit. I've took action. Now I just have to chill out and wait. Yeah.

Cathy:

And there's no set time. There is no set time on when these things happen. Big things obviously take a little bit longer, right?

Rachel:

Absolutely. They, yeah, they do. I mean, that took a

Cathy:

couple of years. You're simmering and you're, it's like the energy is just making sure that everything is in the right place. It's the most annoying thing. Because so often, if we are all energy and interconnected, all the, the things have to align for the other people that are involved as well.

Rachel:

Absolutely. Yes. And that's where I call it divine timing. Yeah, yeah, because like you say it has to align and like you say anyone else that's involved I don't know the landlord of the house or whatever it might be or the person that's gonna give you the job or like the person before you have to leave or some whatever it might be I've seen that happen and I'm sitting there impatiently.'cause patience is not my strong point. I have to admit, I'm like, when this gonna happen? Oh, I've had to learn patience. It's a long old journey, that one. But it's like you, yeah, you have to be ready to be ready and ready to receive, but equally let go and surrender. So ask and then let go. Mm-hmm. I read, I read somewhere, where was it? Uh, I'm just thinking. I think it was like Oprah Winfrey or somebody, and she's Make the wish, ask, let go. Yeah.

Cathy:

Let go of all expectation. Yes, surrender. Just put it out there and then release attachment to it. Yeah,

Rachel:

release attachment. That's a great way of explaining it. And just being like open again to, okay. And just knowing if it's meant to be, it will be. And I always say, if it's meant to be, it will be, and if it isn't, if it doesn't happen, then it wasn't meant to be, but I'm going to be open to whatever the outcome is, and then that's when the stuff that's meant for you aligns with you. And that having that unwavering faith and leaning into, I trust the universe, no matter what the outcome is, because at the end of the day, God's got a plan much grander than my own. Exactly. He knows

Cathy:

more than I do.

Rachel:

Yes, thy will be done, not my will. That's a hard lesson. Exactly. The amount of times that?

Cathy:

Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah. We can do all the things. It's something larger than us. It's an energetic connection that is larger than us. Have you ever had it

Rachel:

where you really, really think that you want something, and then it doesn't happen, and at first you're, like, really disappointed. You're like, oh, this manifesting doesn't work. I'll just give up. Oh, I'm not spiritual. It doesn't exist. Yeah. And then literally, like, a few days later, or... Something else will come and you're like, Oh my God, that's so much better than I could have ever imagined. Yes. Wow, because this happened to me actually with funnily enough, again, just going back to a job. It happened to me. Like I went for this interview. I thought I'd nailed it. I was like in this place. I was really vibing with this girl. We were like having the best time. Best interview. Like it wasn't even an interview. In fact, she was really into wellbeing and we were talking about all this stuff as well. And I was like, this girl just gets me. This is amazing. I love this place. I love this building. I love this. This is the best, this is opportunity. Like it can't not happen. Like I've seen this, this is happening. And then a few days later, she calls me up and she's like, I'm actually leaving the company and we need to re interview with the guy that's taking over. I'm like, Oh my gosh, what? And I was like, oh, well, that's fine. She loved me. So they're bound to love me. My ego stepped in. I'm like, don't worry. I've nailed it. Like, it's all good. I've lost the universe. Like, this is manifested. Cool. It's happening. Definitely. I get there. This guy literally hates me. Oh. What? I'm like you can't even make this up. And I was so disappointed. I, I cried. I was like, I manifested that. I've worked so hard. I'd like, you know, I'd saw, I saw myself there. I'd visualized it. I had the feeling. I had everything. I've taken the steps. I've taken the action. Oh my goodness, like this stuff doesn't work anymore. Oh, that's it. Now what am I gonna do? I don't know. My faith, like, oh my god, everything I've ever believed in is rubbish. And I sat there for a few days and I was like. And then I had the voice going, Rach, remember yet God has a plan much grander than your own. And at the time I was using an intention, an affirmation, actually, I'll tell you what it is. I wrote this down earlier. It goes, what is meant for you? No, what is it? It's yeah. What it's meant for me will find me exactly where I am and the path that I'm on is aligning me with everything that I need. All as well. Yeah. So I stopped being disappointed. I got quiet. I went with d and I kid you not that afternoon, I received a phone call and they said, we've seen your resume, we've got this job. You will absolutely align perfectly. Come and see us. I kid you not amazing. I went there and that's where I work now. And my boss is a dream. I absolutely love what I do. And he was just amazing in with the interviews. Like he interviewed me after hours because I was like, Oh my God, I'm still at this other job. I can't sneak around. I'm no good at lying. And he was like, that's absolutely fine. And honestly, after that, I was like. Wow. My commute is easier. It's closer. It was more pay. It was everything. And I was like,

Cathy:

See, you've had to get through that other thing. Yeah. I had to get through that other thing. Get that energy out of there.

Rachel:

Absolutely. I had to, and I had to deal with that disappointment and that letdown and that, and my ego was like, ha ha ha. I had to move my ego out the way I had to get quiet and I had to trust and go, okay, what is meant for me? will come to me. And then that was it. Like, it did. So you have to believe even when you think, well, it's not working and

Cathy:

be patient. And remember this right now, my friend. Yeah. Yeah. Like, no, be speaking this to yourself as well. Note to self.

Rachel:

Note to self.

Cathy:

Yeah. So these steps that you have, you have be open, clear, feel it. Yeah. Yeah. Trust. What else? Yep. The surrender.

Rachel:

Surrender. Yeah. And remember that we can't control everything and just accept that because otherwise it's called manic manifesting. If we start forcing stuff all over the place. Yeah. Tell me about that. Manic manifesting. Well, that was just, that example that I gave you was me manic manifesting, I guess. Oh, yeah. It was just that whole, that crazy phase. I wasn't quiet. I wasn't listening. I thought I knew best, but I didn't.

Cathy:

I feel like this, you see this, or this happens in relationships at times as well. You know, like we want so much to be in a relationship, or we want to be sometimes. The trauma bonding will take over, or the, you know, the things will happen

Rachel:

that... Oh, yeah, I call it fantasizing and idealizing. Yeah. Yeah. It's ideal, I think, so I'll fantasize about this, and then I miss all of the red flags. Yeah. And then, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Demonic manifesting in relationships, 100 percent resonate with that.

Cathy:

So do you have any tips on how to develop a manifestation practice? Yes. Or the

Rachel:

other thing that I was going to touch on in that list you just made there was one major thing that we haven't spoken about yet is be grateful. So we need to act like it already exists, get excited and be grateful as if it's already given. And if we love affirmations, I have another one. And essentially, I know I love them, they're the best. Essentially, this one is. I believe I receive gratefully and graciously. Amen. So I'm, I believe that I'm going to receive it and I'm already grateful. So having absolute gratitude, I'm not just talking about, oh yeah, thanks. To the point of tears in my eyes, pure joy, gratefulness,

Cathy:

feeling it as much as you are saying,

Rachel:

it's the same feeling, feeling the emotion that you are so overwhelmingly grateful and act like it already exists. Yeah. You know what? I need to take that tip with the relationship thing, don't I? You know what? I know. Act like my husband already exists.

Cathy:

That's so hard to like it already exists. It's so hard because what if you're trying to like manifest. More money in your life, right? You can't just live like you already have all that money, because...

Rachel:

Ah, well, interestingly you say that. But you can be grateful for what you already have. And you can be grateful for abundance. And you can kind of start living like it exists. I mean, I don't know about you, but I've actually been reading loads about money lately. And I've been doing a lot of work around that because again, it just comes from that lack mentality, the self esteem stuff. And I read a few books recently, as you know, Oh, and actually some Bob Proctor again, affirmation. One of the things that I say is money comes to me freely. From expected and unexpected sources. Me too.

Cathy:

That's what I'm going to say a lot. Funnily

Rachel:

enough, right, this is a real story. Last, was it last year? I was actually teaching this young lad. This, I had a rookie come and work with me and I was training him up. And he started showing interest in self development and all of this stuff. We were talking about Tony Robbins and blah, blah. And then we got talking about money and mindset and I was like, Here, I'll give you an affirmation and I'll do it with you. And for 21 days straight, we are going to say this in the office, right? Our boss wasn't around. I was supposed to be training him doing other stuff, but I'm like, this is really important. After our morning meeting, we're going to say these affirmations. I started doing it and I was like, okay, I know I talk the talk, but okay, I can, this, something's happening. I could feel a shift and lo and behold, both of us after 21 days, he got a check. Something happened. I do. I think he was due some like inheritance or something. I don't know whether it's like an uncle passed away. He got like 55, 000 pounds. He's a 19 year old boy. Oh my gosh. I know. It just came to him from an unexpected source. He wasn't expecting that. Then really weirdly I went to my parents for the weekend and funny enough, and I was texting that lad on the way to my parents. I was texting him. We were out of work and we would talk about something else. And I was like, don't forget to see your affirmation. So I'm not there. And he was like, yeah, make sure you do as well. And I was like, yeah, I'm on it, blah, blah. And I was just kind of giving him a pep talk. I didn't really take much notice of myself. I got to my parents and my mom was like, Oh, you've got a letter here in a brown envelope. And I'm like, Oh, like what still goes to my mom's house? Like, Oh, this is going to be a massive check or like a bill. Like, Oh, what do I owe? I've got a fine. Oh my God. I start thinking like, then I was like, before I opened it, I went, no, this is going to be a check to me. And I honestly, I opened it and it wasn't the biggest amount in the world, but it was like over 800 pounds. That I was completely not expecting. And I was like,

Cathy:

that's huge. It's funny that you say that because I was saying this affirmation, something very similar to it, like I just add on every day. So money comes to me in money comes to me every day and expected in unexpected ways or something like that. Right. Similar thing. I had bought a, I had purchased a, like a fundraising coupon book from one of my friends for. Her child's football fundraiser and a 25, like not a big amount. I get to the football game on Friday night and she's like, and it had been 25. Right. I knew that, gave her a check earlier in the day for it, got there that night. And she's like, Oh, here's 5 back. They're selling them for 20 now instead of 25. And I was like, boom, wasn't expecting that. I know it's only 5, but money just came back to me. Like I've been using it, like, yeah, it's those little things, it's like the little, we were at the store the other day, even in my daughter pulled out of the, you know, the little change thing where if you pay in cash, then like you get your change back. She pulled out a penny while she tried to put it back in, it spit it back out at her. But it was a, you know, one cent. That's nothing. But I'm like, here it is. That's the universe giving you abundance, giving you money in just a little way.

Rachel:

This is it. And so it's about being grateful again for what we already have. And okay, like we haven't got the million dollars. But we're grateful for the 5 you just got back.

Cathy:

Exactly. Yeah.

Rachel:

And it's about being in the energy, the vibration of receiving, and that kind of, that pure joy and gratitude and everything that's attached to that. That's when the juicy stuff happens.

Cathy:

That's beautiful. Yeah, I love that. It's so true. So true. Okay, well I have to tell the story then about the keyboard that I just told you because Yes. We need to hear that. It's such a good one. So I, a few weeks ago was typing at my computer and had the thought, like it merely passed through my head. I really should get or need to get a Bluetooth keyboard or wireless keyboard so I can just move my keyboard down to my lap, move it down lower. It's not as high as my monitor is. And not even two days later, my friend messages me and said, Hey, I have an extra Bluetooth keyboard because my son doesn't need it for school this year. They come with their iPads. So do you have any use for a Bluetooth keyboard? I know that's a weird request, but I was like, yes, the thought just went through my head, I do need one. It might not have even been two days. It might've been the next day or even later that day. And she's like, great, I'll get it to you tomorrow. And the keyboard, it's exactly what I wanted. And she. Did all the research for me and took all the work out of it. And I just got to receive the benefits and the mere thought had just gone through my head. I had never thought that thought before, but for whatever reason, I thought, wow, I should really get a wireless keyboard, not just a wireless mouse, but a wireless keyboard. And then one appeared. So it's kind of a beautiful thing.

Rachel:

It is a beautiful thing. And what's amazing is when the stuff happens quickly, because like we did talk about patience, we've talked about sometimes it's about like just surrendering, let go, wait, divine timing. Sometimes it's quick and it's those little wins that we go, Oh my God, I only asked for that like two days ago. Or you didn't even like purposely set that you just thought it because thoughts become things. That's all manifesting is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. The thought is there.

Cathy:

It's true. So negative or positive thoughts become things. Yeah. So if we're thinking negatively about ourselves or about others, it happens. It can

Rachel:

happen. And that, again, that goes back to, and ties in with the relationship situation is I haven't been able to thus far manifest man is because my thoughts are not aligned. With that, my thoughts have not always been that positive about myself, for many other reasons. I'm sure we'll cover that another day. Yeah, But essentially that's what it boils down to is yeah, thoughts become things and manifesting has to start with the thought. Anything that ever exists now was once a thought. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. It's kind of dangerous that thoughts become things, right? Right. Right. It's like, oh, what am I thinking? Right. We might not have to think

Cathy:

stuff all the time. Keep your clean, keep your mind. Yeah. What did your mom say? She's a white witch. White witch. Yes. Keep your mind clean and white and like just the positive things that you want.

Rachel:

Yeah. Good vibes

Cathy:

only. Exactly. Okay. So if someone wants to develop or to start a practice of manifesting, what's a good way to go about

Rachel:

doing that? Get quiet. Just be still. Even just three minutes in the morning to begin with. I can't tell you enough, like how important that is. It's because we can't create anything like we can't be open to those creative possibilities if we're just chaotic. And we're running around from pillar to post, from job to day job, to this and that, and the kids, and the school run, and the homework, and then the husband, and then the da da da. We just need to get quiet. So if you want to develop a practice of manifestation, like to get manifesting, go within. It's that simple. And I think it's...

Cathy:

Easiest to do that, if you can tie it to something else, you know, I talk about habits and if you can tie that habit of stillness to another activity that you're already doing. So maybe it's at the end of your workout when you're stretching and you take just a little bit of time to lie down, sit down, whatever it may be. But if you're. Yeah, I mean, stretching is not always a habit that people have when they're done working out. So here I'm encouraging you to also stretch, but that would be a time that you could also be still enough or following that. Maybe it's right. Like you said, right. When you get up in the morning, maybe it's just waking three minutes earlier than you normally do so that you have three minutes of stillness.

Rachel:

Yeah. And if you're worried about that, just set the alarm five minutes earlier and then, you know, you've got an extra two if you need. I did it this morning. I, you know, I thought I need to do that before I go to work. I didn't miss a train because I made sure I got my ass up. But I went to the bathroom. I did what I need to do. And then I sat there on my meditation cushion just three minutes because I knew. Okay I need to rush for the train. There's like strikes and stuff going on here in London. It's an absolute drama to get anywhere, but I know I needed to do that. And that set me up perfectly because everyone else on that train was stressed. They were shouting, swearing, everything else. And I was just like, Hmm, today's going to be a good day. And people will often say to me like, wow, how are you so calm? Would you know why? It's because I set my alarm five, 10 minutes earlier, I sat on the cushion and just got still. It's funny, actually, last night, because I normally, I try and do a little bit in the morning, just a quick one in the morning because I like my sleep but before I go to bed at night, I usually try and do about 20 minutes as a routine, like sometimes if I've got time, then they'll be longer, and the longer ones are like a treat, but as a ritual, it's like 20 minutes before bed, and last night, I ended up on the phone, and I was having a chat with someone, and then I was like, ugh, I can't be bothered to meditate now. I'm just going to turn the light off and go to sleep while I'm here, cozy, and just put the phone down. And I laid there for like an hour tossing and I was like, Oh, I'm just going to have to get up and get on the cushion because I haven't done it. And my body was telling me like, no, you need to just have that moment before. And yeah.

Cathy:

I had to do that. What does that look like? And not just not necessarily meditating, but if you're waking up and you're setting the intention of visualizing or manifesting, it is, what does that include? Does it include visualization? Does it include imagining or knowing the sentence, all the other senses that come into play? What does that include? For me now,

Rachel:

like coupled with like my impatience and stuff like that, I've really had to work on that. And so I tend to just let go. I'm not. Specifically calling in anything right now, so I will just personally, I just get still and I will say that what is meant for me will find me exactly where I am and the path that I am on is aligning me with everything that I need all as well because for me I'm just in a place where I'm very happy. I'm content. I don't feel like anything's missing. I don't feel there's anything particularly majorly coming my way right now. I'm just in the path of, I am actually truly grateful for how things are in my life. And that's just for me personally. I would say that if someone was trying to call something in, then take that time and maybe just sit and, like you just said, add the senses, add the feeling and the visualization. I always, I say visualization, don't close my eyes there. Because for me, it's like... The third eye visualize it there in your mind's eye. Yeah. And hopefully the audience, people that are listening to this will understand what we mean by that.

Cathy:

Yeah. Oh, they

Rachel:

will. Yeah. I'm sure that the people that are listening are already aligned with this message, but yeah. Is it, I think, so if there's something particularly that you want to manifest, it's, yeah, getting that visual and imagining yourself, imagining it coming towards you. If it's a house, for example, imagine yourself in that place, you know, what are your things? Where do you want them? What does it look like? I don't know. What color are the walls? All of those

Cathy:

things. I think the thing is even if it doesn't make sense to you, it's okay. You know, even if you have images or hear things or see words or whatever it may be, that may not make any sense. That's and allow them to just be there. That's beautiful. And you need to be able to do that. Yep.

Rachel:

Again, being open to the creative possibilities. Yeah. Being curious. Right. What you said at the beginning of this.

Cathy:

Yeah. The other thing is, is there any wrong way to go about manifesting? Don't suppose

Rachel:

there is. I'm just thinking that. that's a really thought provoking question. That's, yeah, I don't think there's a right or wrong. I think it's really personal. It's a journey. Mm hmm. If you follow the steps, like I say, it's like ask, let it go, wait, be grateful. Mm hmm. Boom. That's

Cathy:

it. Gratitude is such a huge part of it. Huge, huge part of it.

Rachel:

Yeah. I done a whole episode on my podcast about gratitude and I will do more because it's a huge, huge part. Count your blessings.

Cathy:

Perfect. I will link to that. Exactly. I will link to that episode. I think I've got probably a couple. Gratitude one, maybe two. I

Rachel:

scanned, scanned through it and had a little look.

Cathy:

Yeah. I think I've got some. You've got loads. I'll find

Rachel:

them. I'll link to them. You've got

Cathy:

loads of episodes. Wow. Okay. Is there anything else we need to talk about with manifesting today? Um,

Rachel:

I mean, if people really still need some advice or tips, then YouTube's great. Gabby Bernstein is great.

Cathy:

And there's so many, you know, like on Insight Timer, there are so many manifestation. So the Insight Timer app is a free app or you can pay for it. And it's got so many different meditations and manifestation. Activations and all sorts of things that you can explore on that app as well. That's a great place to start.

Rachel:

That's a cool place to start. And yeah, YouTube literally just type in manifestation or manifesting meditation, for example. But one great book is the universe has got your back by Gabby great place to start. And also her, one of her other books super attractor. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's

Cathy:

a really, really great book. I've heard of it. It's been on my list. Oh,

Rachel:

yeah. That's a great book. And because as well, that really covers where we talked about manic manifesting and also that really covers a huge part of being able to let go and remembering you're not in control because she was actually trying to manifest a child and she was having IVF and she was like asking the universe for signs and she wouldn't see the signs. And we have to remember that no sign is a sign. Because we need to accept, like, okay, I haven't seen, like, ten chickens or whatever my neighbor has bought. Okay we need to accept that is the answer. The unanswered question. Yeah, still the answer. But yeah, that's a great book because then it covers a lot about... Asking for signs and then eventually seeing them and then accepted divine timing and because eventually she did have a baby So it's a fascinating story But yeah, definitely as well Wayne Dyer. Dr. Wayne Dyer is a great one Very much. So again linking the Christianity and God part of it and the I am affirmations So yeah, there's there's a lot of resource out there Just type in manifesting and we're good to go. Well, you have given

Cathy:

us a whole lot of good tips and resources as well. So thank you. And I will link to your podcast, which is Life Re Framed. Um, right? Yep, absolutely. I will link to your contact information, but where can we find you on? Um, I hang out

Rachel:

mostly on Instagram. Yep. And, uh, Instagram is my vibe. It's life underscore reframed 77. Nice. Like, when I read this thing just the other day that was, and we should know this anyway, but it's nice to have a reminder. When you keep seeing things, synchronicity. That is your sign from the universe from God from whoever you're on the right path right now This is exactly like the nod from the universe to go. Yeah, you've got this Keep doing what you're doing. But yeah, 77 just kept showing up for me. I did look it up I think again it has to do with Manifesting and it has to do with synchronicity and it was just like, of course, like, yeah, that just fits right now.

Cathy:

I have two questions before we wrap up today. I have two questions. So first tell us how everything that we've talked about today, how all the manifesting stuff cultivates greater health, harmony, and happiness in your life. And you can either separate each of those qualities out health, harmony, and happiness, or you can lump them together as this idealistic thing that we are. Seeking. Okay, that's a great question. So it cultivates health. Yep, tell us how manifesting, or how what we've talked about today, cultivates greater health, harmony, and happiness in your life. Well,

Rachel:

essentially, it can manifest health and be grateful for the health we already have. So, it definitely does that, and just recently in the last few months, I've actually, being on that journey myself and gone back to the gym, been eating healthily. But again, I had to kind of manifest that and I had to really think about it. And yeah, I would do some work on the resistance around that as well, but like visualize myself in the gym and visualize myself eating healthily, preparing meals, dah, dah, dah, dah. So I would say that, yeah, you can definitely use manifesting to cultivate health in terms of harmony, getting still listening. Doing all the things we just spoke about will bring greater harmony within your life and my life personally I 100 percent and like so harmonized and so balanced because of I believe in this stuff right and because I practice it regularly, happiness, of course like why not like it's It brings great, great happiness when even just the keyboard arriving on the doorstep of your friend. How happy were you? Cause it's like, wow. And the same with me when I then landed the better job and it's, wow. And that wow, and that kind of in awe of the universe and kind of just that, wow, it's mind blowing. And that for me is pure happiness.

Cathy:

They all work together. Right? They all work together. They all work together. Um, and the last question is what's one thing you're doing right now to invite more intention into your life? Oh,

Rachel:

well, we just had the new moon and I have to kind of focus on letting go of some old beliefs and surrendering that kind of surrender to the universe and to strengthen my relationship with myself. And look at self esteem and worthiness and those things. And that has meant that I've had to let go of some old patterns and some old beliefs because they just, they don't suit me anymore, right? So I'm letting that shit go. Just

Cathy:

the fact that you took the time to set intentions with the new moon. Yes. Is the way you're being intentional. I mean, that's a beautiful representation of how to be more intentional and then to begin to work towards those intentions for sure.

Rachel:

And I have them sat right next to me here with my little green adventuring crystal.

Cathy:

I love it. And I have a

Rachel:

rose quartz over there with my telling myself I've always believed in true love and it will find me when I'm

Cathy:

ready. I love it. I love it. I have all my crystals in a circle here on my desk in a little kind of circle of life, wheel of life type circle here. That's beautiful. And I love it. With an inspire stone in the middle of them. So this to remind me, inspire. Oh, wow. Love that. Okay, Rachel, thank you so much for taking the time today and for being here and for sharing your insights and wisdom on manifesting.

Rachel:

It's been amazing. Thank you for inviting me on your show, Kathy. I'm so proud to be here and just absolutely grateful, let's say, gratitude, attitude of gratitude.

Cathy:

Good. Well, absolutely. I'm glad to have you. Such a fun episode with Rachel. I hope that you were able to take something away from it. Her podcast is life reframed, and it's got kind of a pink cover with a triangle on it and almost like it looks like a smiley face underneath the triangle. So. Catch that wherever you catch your podcasts. And I will also link to it here in the show notes. So remember that just because. Sometimes manifestation is associated with witchy, Venus. This or dark arts. It's really just about allowing the positive flow of energy. To create abundance, and that's essentially what prayer is all about, right. It's asking for blessings. So however you do that, whether that's to the universe, to God, to Jesus, the holy spirit, to, Spirit in general. Whatever it is. It's simply opening yourself up to the potential and the possibility for positivity to flow in your life. And that's a beautiful way to reframe a topic that might actually otherwise Leave people questioning its place in this world. Until next time...you've been listening to health harmony and happiness with Cathy. Cheers to cultivating your own version of health harmony and happiness in your life.