May the Record Reflect

9. The Other “Bar” Association: Alcoholism in the Legal Community, with DeAnna Crosby

July 07, 2020 National Institute for Trial Advocacy Episode 9
May the Record Reflect
9. The Other “Bar” Association: Alcoholism in the Legal Community, with DeAnna Crosby
Show Notes

A joint ABA/Hazelden study in 2016 found significant rates of anxiety, depression, suicide, alcoholism, and addiction among licensed, employed lawyers in America. In Episode 9, we hear from DeAnna Crosby, addictions specialist and clinical director of a dual-diagnosis treatment clinic in Southern California, about the unique caretaking responsibilities that make lawyers susceptible to anxiety, depression, and self-medication and what resources are available to create a life beyond the bottle. 


3:45     Statistics on addiction and mental illness among lawyers

5:55     Lawyers and vicarious trauma, compassion fatigue, and burnout

9:26     Drinking “trends” 

10:52  Self-medication

15:02  Dual diagnoses of substance abuse and mental illness

16:22  Knowing if you have a drinking problem

18:52  Lawyers and other gold-collar professionals

20:54  Drinking at law school

22:13  Generational issues

25:40  Managing sobriety

28:23  Genograms

32:08  Prevalence of alcohol

35:01  Distress tolerance

39:00  Favorite resources

45:38  Signature signoff question



“One of the things that’s interesting is so many people when they get sober, they say, ‘Everyone’s gonna know. Everyone’s gonna know that I’m not drinking, and what am I gonna say?’ Most people don’t care. Most people are so obsessed with themselves that they don’t even notice that you’re not drinking.” DeAnna Crosby


Recommended Resources

ABA, Hazelden National Study on Attorney Substance Abuse, Mental Health

Journal of Addiction Medicine article

ABA Directory of Lawyer Assistance Programs

AA Questions


Understanding the High-Functioning Alcoholic (book)

In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts (book)

Codependent No More (book)

Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong (TED Talk)

Brian Cuban’s The Addicted Lawyer blog

I’m in recovery and my office just moved above a bar (great comments section)