
Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Episodes
111 episodes
The Church, the Constitution, and the Cult of Trump
In this bonus episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim dive headfirst into today's explosive intersection of faith, politics, and morality. With Elon Musk accusing Donald Trump of being named in the Epstein files, the conversation turns to w...
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Season 3
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Episode 23
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1:25:07

Lessons from the Community of Christ
Ian and Jim explore the bold steps taken by the Community of Christ—formerly the RLDS Church—in appointing its first female prophet-president, Stassi Cram, and reflect on how such actions contrast with the cautious approach of The Church of Jes...
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Season 3
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Episode 22
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1:26:41

A Conversation with Terryl Givens
Ian and Jim welcome renowned scholar and author Terryl Givens for a candid conversation about evolving faith, historical transparency, and the role of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in a changing world.
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Episode 21
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1:23:15

Two Years of Inside Out
In this special anniversary episode, Ian and Jim reflect on two years of Inside Out—the guests, the gratitude, and the gut-punch moments that have defined their journey
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Episode 20
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1:06:15

A New Pope!
Ian and Jim discuss the election of Pope Leo the 14th and what it means for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Episode 19
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1:02:17

Women in the Church
Ian and Jim discuss the history and the future of women in the Church.
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Episode 18
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1:14:55

Survey Says: The Sequel!
Ian and Jim review a new Church survey asking about different ways people worship.
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Episode 17
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1:20:31

A Conversation with Lance Jackson
Ian and Jim are joined by Lance Jackson, a champion hammer thrower, an accomplished opera singer, and a former bishop who discusses his experiences both in and out of the Church.
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Episode 16
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1:43:19

Evolution
Ian and Jim discuss the Church's evolving position on organic evolution.
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Episode 15
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1:17:53

The Final Word on General Conference
Ian and Jim recap General Conference and what parts stood out and which parts could have been an email.
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Episode 15
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1:08:35

A Conversation with Valerie Hamaker
Ian and Jim are joined by Valerie Hamaker, host of the Latter Day Struggles podcast. She discusses her faith journey, her podcast, and the events that led to her resignation from the Church.
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Episode 14
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1:11:59

A Force for Good
Ian and Jim swap stories about how the Church has been a profound blessing in their lives.
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Episode 13
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1:05:52

The Miracle of Forgiveness
Ian and Jim discuss Spencer W. Kimball's book "The Miracle of Forgiveness" and the impact it has had on the Church.
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Episode 12
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1:11:02

A Conversation with Beth Magnetic
Beth Magnetic, host of the YouTube channel "Death by Patriarchy," joins Ian and Jim for a fascinating discussion about the dark side of patriarchy, the Church's approach to mental health, and true crime stories in and out of the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 11
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1:05:52

A Conversation with Daryl Watson
Ian and Jim have a conversation with Ian's old friend Daryl Watson, who, along with his wife, recently served as a mission leader of the Belgium/Netherlands Mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Episode 10
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1:14:36

Are We The Baddies?
Ian and Jim discuss America's abandonment of Ukraine and what the Church's role ought to be as the world devolves into chaos.
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Episode 9
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1:14:14

Your Little Factory
Ian and Jim discuss Elder Boyd K. Packer's infamous "To Young Men Only" pamphlet.
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Episode 8
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1:10:24

You Are Enough
Ian and Jim explore the challenge of toxic perfectionism in the Church.
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Episode 7
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1:06:01

Survey Says: Part Three
Ian and Jim finish answering all of the Church's survey questions.
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Episode 6
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1:31:46

Survey Says: Part Two
Ian and Jim continue to review the Church's recent survey questions and come up with some surprising answers.
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Episode 5
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1:18:26

The Voice of the People Doth Choose Iniquity
Ian and Jim discuss the ascendancy of the wickedest person ever to assume the Presidency of the United States.
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Episode 4
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1:23:09

Survey Says: Part One
Ian and Jim take a Church survey that was mistakenly sent to a larger audience than the Church intended. Part one of a series...
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Episode 3
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1:07:37

A Conversation about BYU with Sue Bergin
Sue Bergin, a former BYU adjunct faculty member, was one of the few people willing to go on the record for the Salt Lake Tribune's groundbreaking article about BYU's current hiring and firing practices. She joins Ian and Jim to tell her story a...
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Season 3
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Episode 2
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1:28:19
