Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Episodes
169 episodes
The Nauvoo Expositor
Ian, Jim, and historian Greg Prince explore the controversial history of the Nauvoo Expositor and its lasting implications for honesty, institutional transparency, and the modern LDS Church. The discussion begins with a review of th...
The First Vision
Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a deep dive into one of the most controversial topics in Latter-day Saint history: the multiple accounts of Joseph Smith’s First Vision.Together, they explore the historical r...
Faith Crisis: What Can the Church Do?
Ian, Jim, and returning guest Greg Prince tackle one of the most urgent and sensitive issues facing the Latter-day Saint community today: faith crisis.Drawing on new research, personal experience, and candid discussion, the trio explores...
Tales of the Unexpected: You Are Enough
Ian and Jim explore a “tale of the unexpected” that turns out to be far more universal than dramatic.Jim shares the story of how he ended up serving a mission—not through a sudden, life-altering conversion, but through a lifetime of quie...
Livestream Audio from Wednesday, April 22 - with Greg Prince
In this livestream, Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince for a candid, unfiltered conversation on one of the most talked-about developments in the Latter-day Saint world: the Church’s lawsuit against John Dehlin...
Tales of the Unexplained
Ian shares one of the most disturbing—and unforgettable—experiences from his mission in Scotland.What begins as a routine visit with a potential convert quickly turns into something far stranger. A blessing. A voice that isn’t hers. A su...
The Question of Relevance
Ian and Jim are joined by returning guest Greg Prince to explore his updated Roadmap 2.0 for improving Mormonism. Building on earlier discussions, the conversation dives deeply into one central question: Is the Church still relevant in...
Roadmap 2.0
Ian and Jim are joined once again by returning guest Greg Prince to explore the evolution of his influential “Roadmap” for improving The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.Building on more than 20 prior conversations, Greg intro...
Come Away to the Sunday School
Ian and Jim reunite for a wide-ranging, candid conversation sparked by a recent Church policy change allowing women to serve as ward Sunday School presidents.What begins as a discussion of a seemingly small shift quickly expands into a d...
Livestream Audio: Greg Prince on Abuse, Discernment, and the Church’s Responsibility
This is audio from a livestream discussion that took place on March 10, 2026. You can watch the original video here. Ian and Jim are joined once again by his...
Journal of Mormon Polygamy: A Conversation with Michelle Brady Stone and Cheryl Bruno
Ian and Jim welcome returning guest Michelle Brady Stone, along with historian Cheryl Bruno, co-founders of the Journal of Mormon Polygamy. Together, they explore the complex and often controversial history of polygamy in the early Chu...
A Conversation with Byron Casper
Ian and Jim welcome a longtime friend and Ian's former missionary companion, Byron Casper—the son of legendary golfer Billy Casper. Byron shares what it was like growing up in the shadow of one of golf’s greatest champions, rebellin...
A Conversation with Chris Robison
Ian and Jim sit down with listener Chris Robinson to discuss faith, shame, addiction, and the long road toward self-acceptance.Chris shares his deeply personal story growing up in the Church, serving a mission, and quietly battling...
Ian Returns to Newbykipps
In this deeply personal episode, Ian shares a story he’s never told publicly before about an experience that changed his life forever.Jim responds with a powerful mission story of his own, and together they reflect on what these sacred m...
Livestream Audio: A Positive Philosophy of Sex
This is the audio version of a live discussion with Greg Prince that took place on Tuesday, February 24, 2026.Greg Prince’s Roadmap for Improving Mormonism outlines how essential it is for the Church to adopt a positive philosophy of sex...
Mystery - with Greg Prince
How much do we really know? And how much should we claim to know?Ian, Jim, and historian Greg Prince explore the role of mystery in faith. Beginning with a fascinating story about President David O. McKay’s reluctance to “paint Christ,” ...
Elders
Ian shares a spontaneous with two young missionaries in a shopping mall — a conversation that quickly moved from small talk to polygamy, race and the priesthood, prophetic fallibility, and moral obedience.What happens when one missionary...
Historic Livestream Tonight with Rebecca Bibliotheca!
We're going to be one of the first podcasts out of the gate to discuss President Oaks's debut address as President of the Church, which he gave today at BYU! Come be part of the discussion - it starts at 7:00 PM, about an...
Moral Authority - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome historian and author Greg Prince back to the podcast for a searching, urgent conversation about moral authority in the public square—and the growing silence of religious institutions at a moment of profound civic and ethical...
Missions, Metrics, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves
Ian and Jim sit down for a one-on-one conversation to examine recent remarks by Elder Ronald A. Rasband about missionary work, church growth, and the “hastening” of the Lord’s work.Taking a close look at six “false narratives” Elder Rasb...
Disability - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and scholar Greg Prince to explore one of the most neglected and sensitive issues in modern Mormonism: disability. Drawing from Greg’s unpublished “roadmap” for institutional reform—and from deeply...
Us vs. Them - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince to discuss the Church’s long-standing “us versus them” mindset — how it shaped missionary culture, theological certainty, and member identity, and how it continues to ...
Richard Bushman Returns!
Richard Lyman Bushman, one of the most influential historians of Joseph Smith and early Mormonism, returns to Inside Out for a candid conversation about faith, doubt, and the complicated relationship between spiritual conviction and institution...
The Legacy of Jeffrey R. Holland - with Greg Prince
In this New Year episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim welcome back historian and scholar Greg Prince for a wide-ranging conversation centered on the recent passing of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and what his funeral revealed about the Churc...
The Word of Wisdom - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back renowned Mormon historian and author Greg Prince for a thoughtful, eye-opening conversation about one of the most debated elements of modern Mormon culture: the Word of Wisdom. Together, they examine how a r...