Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Episodes
104 episodes
A Conversation with Lance Jackson
Ian and Jim are joined by Lance Jackson, a champion hammer thrower, an accomplished opera singer, and a former bishop who discusses his experiences both in and out of the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 16
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1:43:19
Evolution
Ian and Jim discuss the Church's evolving position on organic evolution.
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Season 3
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Episode 15
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1:17:53
The Final Word on General Conference
Ian and Jim recap General Conference and what parts stood out and which parts could have been an email.
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Season 3
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Episode 15
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1:08:35
A Conversation with Valerie Hamaker
Ian and Jim are joined by Valerie Hamaker, host of the Latter Day Struggles podcast. She discusses her faith journey, her podcast, and the events that led to her resignation from the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 14
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1:11:59
A Force for Good
Ian and Jim swap stories about how the Church has been a profound blessing in their lives.
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Season 3
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Episode 13
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1:05:52
The Miracle of Forgiveness
Ian and Jim discuss Spencer W. Kimball's book "The Miracle of Forgiveness" and the impact it has had on the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 12
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1:11:02
A Conversation with Beth Magnetic
Beth Magnetic, host of the YouTube channel "Death by Patriarchy," joins Ian and Jim for a fascinating discussion about the dark side of patriarchy, the Church's approach to mental health, and true crime stories in and out of the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 11
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1:05:52
A Conversation with Daryl Watson
Ian and Jim have a conversation with Ian's old friend Daryl Watson, who, along with his wife, recently served as a mission leader of the Belgium/Netherlands Mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Season 3
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Episode 10
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1:14:36
Are We The Baddies?
Ian and Jim discuss America's abandonment of Ukraine and what the Church's role ought to be as the world devolves into chaos.
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Season 3
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Episode 9
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1:14:14
Your Little Factory
Ian and Jim discuss Elder Boyd K. Packer's infamous "To Young Men Only" pamphlet.
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Season 3
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Episode 8
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1:10:24
You Are Enough
Ian and Jim explore the challenge of toxic perfectionism in the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 7
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1:06:01
Survey Says: Part Three
Ian and Jim finish answering all of the Church's survey questions.
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Season 3
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Episode 6
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1:31:46
Survey Says: Part Two
Ian and Jim continue to review the Church's recent survey questions and come up with some surprising answers.
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Season 3
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Episode 5
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1:18:26
The Voice of the People Doth Choose Iniquity
Ian and Jim discuss the ascendancy of the wickedest person ever to assume the Presidency of the United States.
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Season 3
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Episode 4
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1:23:09
Survey Says: Part One
Ian and Jim take a Church survey that was mistakenly sent to a larger audience than the Church intended. Part one of a series...
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Season 3
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Episode 3
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1:07:37
A Conversation about BYU with Sue Bergin
Sue Bergin, a former BYU adjunct faculty member, was one of the few people willing to go on the record for the Salt Lake Tribune's groundbreaking article about BYU's current hiring and firing practices. She joins Ian and Jim to tell her story a...
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Season 3
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Episode 2
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1:28:19
Plural Marriage in Primary
Ian and Jim greet the New Year with a discussion about plural marriage being included in this year's Primary manual.
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Season 3
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Episode 1
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1:19:39
James Burnham Returns!
With Jim on vacation, Ian welcomes James Burnham back to Inside Out, as he shares some more of his unique perspectives and two new songs!
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Season 2
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Episode 47
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1:14:38
Christmas
Ian and Jim discuss the blessings and opportunities of Christmas, in and out of the Church.
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Season 2
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Episode 46
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59:38
Change in an Unchanging Church
Last week's episode was a reminder that some in the Church continue to believe things the Church no longer teaches, which prompted Ian and Jim to discuss how to deal with change in a Church that paradoxically teaches both continuing revelation ...
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Season 2
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Episode 45
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1:21:02
A Conversation with Marcus Hutber
Ian and Jim are joined by Marcus Hutber, who, as a missionary, brought Ian Wilks into the Church back in the day. The robust discussion largely focuses on why Black people were denied the priesthood and temple blessings prior to 1978.
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Season 2
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Episode 44
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1:33:36
A Conversation with Andrew and Carline Patterson
Andrew and Carline Patterson served alongside Ian when he was the bishop in the Dalkeith Ward in Scotland. They share their story as to what led them to join the Church and then what led them to walk away from the Church.
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Season 2
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Episode 43
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1:25:28
Heretic: The Inside Out Review
Ian and Jim review the horror film Heretic, which features Latter-day Saint sister missionaries in the starring roles. Warning: Spoilers aplenty!
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Season 2
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Episode 42
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1:29:00