Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Episodes
121 episodes
Boredom, Belief, and Bold Ideas for Change - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back one of their most popular guests, historian and author Greg Prince, for another deep dive into his roadmap for improving Mormonism. The conversation ranges from biblical literacy among Latter-day Saints to the Church’s ...
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Season 3
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Episode 33
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1:14:46
The Church Defenders Who Attack the Church
A keynote. A controversy. And a defense you won’t hear anywhere else. Jim and Ian unpack the online backlash against Church Communications Director Aaron Sherinian after his FAIR conference appearance - tackling misquotes, double standards, and...
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Season 3
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Episode 32
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1:04:52
Confronting the Origins of The Book of Mormon with Steven Pynakker
Ian and Jim welcome back special guest Steven Pynakker, founder and host of the popular Mormon Book Reviews podcast. Together, they tackle one of the most audacious questions in the Restoration movement: Where did the Book of Mormon co...
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Season 3
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Episode 31
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1:22:00
A Roadmap for Improving Mormonism (Part 1) – with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back distinguished scholar and author Greg Prince to unpack his groundbreaking essay, A Roadmap for Improving Mormonism. What begins as a bold comparison between Vatican II and a proposed "Salt Lake I" turns into an...
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Season 3
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Episode 30
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1:01:16
Heavenly Mothers
Ian and Jim dive deep into one of Mormonism’s most sacred — and least discussed — doctrines: the existence of a Heavenly Mother… or perhaps, Heavenly Mothers. Triggered by a recent offhand comment by President Dallin H. Oaks, the discussion foc...
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Season 3
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Episode 29
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1:22:08
Greg Prince Returns!
Ian and Jim welcome back acclaimed historian and author Greg Prince for a follow-up conversation about the future of missionary work in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Together, they explore how the Church's immense resour...
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Season 3
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Episode 28
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1:20:44
A Conversation About Humanitarian Missions with Julie and Marty Newton
Ian and Jim sit down with Jim's sister Julie Newton and her husband Marty Newton, who are serving as senior missionaries in Adelaide, Australia. Their mission? Not door-to-door proselytizing—but boots-on-the-ground humanitarian work across the ...
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Season 3
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Episode 27
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1:00:40
A Conversation with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim sit down with acclaimed Mormon historian and scholar Greg Prince—author of David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism and other pivotal works—for a sweeping discussion on the past, present, and future of the Chu...
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Season 3
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Episode 26
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1:32:33
John Taylor's 1886 Revelation
Ian and Jim dive into a remarkable and quietly released document that’s now been added to the official Joseph Smith Papers archive: a revelation received by LDS Church President John Taylor in 1886—long believed by many to be apocryphal, forged...
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Season 3
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Episode 25
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1:45:51
A Conversation with Kirk Hays
Ian and Jim sit down with a lifelong friend — Kirk Hays, former Scotland Edinburgh Mission AP and bishop turned humanitarian, artist, and TikTok influencer known as The Vagabond Artist.From his unexpected call to serve in Scotla...
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Season 3
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Episode 24
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1:21:25
The Church, the Constitution, and the Cult of Trump
In this bonus episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim dive headfirst into today's explosive intersection of faith, politics, and morality. With Elon Musk accusing Donald Trump of being named in the Epstein files, the conversation turns to w...
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Episode 23
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1:25:07
Lessons from the Community of Christ
Ian and Jim explore the bold steps taken by the Community of Christ—formerly the RLDS Church—in appointing its first female prophet-president, Stassi Cram, and reflect on how such actions contrast with the cautious approach of The Church of Jes...
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Season 3
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Episode 22
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1:26:41
A Conversation with Terryl Givens
Ian and Jim welcome renowned scholar and author Terryl Givens for a candid conversation about evolving faith, historical transparency, and the role of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in a changing world.
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Season 3
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Episode 21
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1:23:15
Two Years of Inside Out
In this special anniversary episode, Ian and Jim reflect on two years of Inside Out—the guests, the gratitude, and the gut-punch moments that have defined their journey
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Episode 20
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1:06:15
A New Pope!
Ian and Jim discuss the election of Pope Leo the 14th and what it means for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Season 3
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Episode 19
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1:02:17
Women in the Church
Ian and Jim discuss the history and the future of women in the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 18
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1:14:55
Survey Says: The Sequel!
Ian and Jim review a new Church survey asking about different ways people worship.
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Season 3
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Episode 17
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1:20:31
A Conversation with Lance Jackson
Ian and Jim are joined by Lance Jackson, a champion hammer thrower, an accomplished opera singer, and a former bishop who discusses his experiences both in and out of the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 16
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1:43:19
Evolution
Ian and Jim discuss the Church's evolving position on organic evolution.
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Season 3
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Episode 15
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1:17:53
The Final Word on General Conference
Ian and Jim recap General Conference and what parts stood out and which parts could have been an email.
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Season 3
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Episode 15
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1:08:35
A Conversation with Valerie Hamaker
Ian and Jim are joined by Valerie Hamaker, host of the Latter Day Struggles podcast. She discusses her faith journey, her podcast, and the events that led to her resignation from the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 14
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1:11:59
A Force for Good
Ian and Jim swap stories about how the Church has been a profound blessing in their lives.
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Season 3
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Episode 13
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1:05:52
The Miracle of Forgiveness
Ian and Jim discuss Spencer W. Kimball's book "The Miracle of Forgiveness" and the impact it has had on the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 12
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1:11:02
A Conversation with Beth Magnetic
Beth Magnetic, host of the YouTube channel "Death by Patriarchy," joins Ian and Jim for a fascinating discussion about the dark side of patriarchy, the Church's approach to mental health, and true crime stories in and out of the Church.
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Season 3
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Episode 11
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1:05:52