Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Episodes
161 episodes
Come Away to the Sunday School
Ian and Jim reunite for a wide-ranging, candid conversation sparked by a recent Church policy change allowing women to serve as ward Sunday School presidents.What begins as a discussion of a seemingly small shift quickly expands into a d...
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Season 4
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Episode 15
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1:11:17
Livestream Audio: Greg Prince on Abuse, Discernment, and the Church’s Responsibility
This is audio from a livestream discussion that took place on March 10, 2026. You can watch the original video here. Ian and Jim are joined once again by his...
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Season 4
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Episode 14
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1:19:30
Journal of Mormon Polygamy: A Conversation with Michelle Brady Stone and Cheryl Bruno
Ian and Jim welcome returning guest Michelle Brady Stone, along with historian Cheryl Bruno, co-founders of the Journal of Mormon Polygamy. Together, they explore the complex and often controversial history of polygamy in the early Chu...
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Season 4
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Episode 13
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1:32:25
A Conversation with Byron Casper
Ian and Jim welcome a longtime friend and Ian's former missionary companion, Byron Casper—the son of legendary golfer Billy Casper. Byron shares what it was like growing up in the shadow of one of golf’s greatest champions, rebellin...
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Season 4
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Episode 12
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1:31:29
A Conversation with Chris Robison
Ian and Jim sit down with listener Chris Robinson to discuss faith, shame, addiction, and the long road toward self-acceptance.Chris shares his deeply personal story growing up in the Church, serving a mission, and quietly battling...
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Season 4
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Episode 11
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1:29:16
Ian Returns to Newbykipps
In this deeply personal episode, Ian shares a story he’s never told publicly before about an experience that changed his life forever.Jim responds with a powerful mission story of his own, and together they reflect on what these sacred m...
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Season 4
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Episode 10
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1:07:01
Livestream Audio: A Positive Philosophy of Sex
This is the audio version of a live discussion with Greg Prince that took place on Tuesday, February 24, 2026.Greg Prince’s Roadmap for Improving Mormonism outlines how essential it is for the Church to adopt a positive philosophy of sex...
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Season 4
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Episode 9
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1:15:50
Mystery - with Greg Prince
How much do we really know? And how much should we claim to know?Ian, Jim, and historian Greg Prince explore the role of mystery in faith. Beginning with a fascinating story about President David O. McKay’s reluctance to “paint Christ,” ...
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Season 4
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Episode 8
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1:18:43
Elders
Ian shares a spontaneous with two young missionaries in a shopping mall — a conversation that quickly moved from small talk to polygamy, race and the priesthood, prophetic fallibility, and moral obedience.What happens when one missionary...
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Season 4
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Episode 7
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1:29:00
Historic Livestream Tonight with Rebecca Bibliotheca!
We're going to be one of the first podcasts out of the gate to discuss President Oaks's debut address as President of the Church, which he gave today at BYU! Come be part of the discussion - it starts at 7:00 PM, about an...
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Moral Authority - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome historian and author Greg Prince back to the podcast for a searching, urgent conversation about moral authority in the public square—and the growing silence of religious institutions at a moment of profound civic and ethical...
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Season 4
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Episode 6
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1:08:45
Missions, Metrics, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves
Ian and Jim sit down for a one-on-one conversation to examine recent remarks by Elder Ronald A. Rasband about missionary work, church growth, and the “hastening” of the Lord’s work.Taking a close look at six “false narratives” Elder Rasb...
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Season 4
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Episode 5
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1:19:33
Disability - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and scholar Greg Prince to explore one of the most neglected and sensitive issues in modern Mormonism: disability. Drawing from Greg’s unpublished “roadmap” for institutional reform—and from deeply...
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Season 4
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Episode 4
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1:14:33
Us vs. Them - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince to discuss the Church’s long-standing “us versus them” mindset — how it shaped missionary culture, theological certainty, and member identity, and how it continues to ...
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Season 4
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Episode 3
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1:12:15
Richard Bushman Returns!
Richard Lyman Bushman, one of the most influential historians of Joseph Smith and early Mormonism, returns to Inside Out for a candid conversation about faith, doubt, and the complicated relationship between spiritual conviction and institution...
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Season 4
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Episode 2
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1:04:55
The Legacy of Jeffrey R. Holland - with Greg Prince
In this New Year episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim welcome back historian and scholar Greg Prince for a wide-ranging conversation centered on the recent passing of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and what his funeral revealed about the Churc...
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Season 4
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Episode 1
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1:26:17
The Word of Wisdom - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back renowned Mormon historian and author Greg Prince for a thoughtful, eye-opening conversation about one of the most debated elements of modern Mormon culture: the Word of Wisdom. Together, they examine how a r...
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Season 3
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Episode 54
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1:17:45
A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian and Greg Prince
What does it really mean to be a Christian - or a Mormon - today?Ian and Jim are once again joined by historian Greg Prince and author and former bishop Ganesh Cherian for an honest, unscripted conversation about faith, loyalty, identity...
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Season 3
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Episode 53
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1:14:14
A Conversation with Karen Hyatt
What happens when conscience collides with institution—and peace, not anger, is the result?Ian and Jim sit down with Karen Hyatt, a lifelong Latter-day Saint whose deep devotion to Christ led her to one of the most controversial conclusi...
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Season 3
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Episode 52
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1:19:22
A Conversation with Pat Boisselle
Jim and Ian sit down with Pat Boisselle — an old friend of Ian's whose life in Mormonism was defined by devotion, service, and sincerity. For decades, Pat was the kind of Latter-day Saint who quietly strengthened his community: a de...
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Season 3
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Episode 51
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1:15:30
Livestream TODAY! 5:30 PM! IN JUST A HALF AN HOUR!
Join us at https://www.buzzsprout.com/673495/episodes/18289328
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Nemo the Mormon Returns!
Ian and Jim welcome back a favorite guest: Nemo the Mormon, joining Inside Out from the UK for a deep-dive conversation about one of the most defining—and difficult—topics in Latter-day Saint culture: fallibility vs. infallibility...
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Season 3
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Episode 50
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1:12:00
Gerontocracy - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a deep dive into one of the most sensitive and consequential themes in Greg’s “Roadmap for Improving Mormonism”: gerontocracy—a system of governance led by the very old—and how it sh...
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Season 3
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Episode 49
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1:29:42
A Conversation with Sandra Tanner
In one of our most anticipated conversations to date, Inside Out welcomes the remarkable Sandra Tanner — writer, historian, researcher, and the great-great-granddaughter of Brigham Young. For more than sixty years, Sandra and her late husband J...
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Season 3
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Episode 48
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1:16:50
Polygamy, Power, and the Pain of Not Knowing – with Greg Prince
What happens when a faith community quietly backs away from a doctrine without ever really owning the fallout? In this episode, historian and author Greg Prince returns to talk about the long shadow of Mormon polygamy - not just in the 19th cen...
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Season 3
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Episode 47
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1:10:24