Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
Episodes
138 episodes
A Conversation with Sandra Tanner
In one of our most anticipated conversations to date, Inside Out welcomes the remarkable Sandra Tanner — writer, historian, researcher, and the great-great-granddaughter of Brigham Young. For more than sixty years, Sandra and her late husband J...
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Season 3
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Episode 48
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1:16:50
Polygamy, Power, and the Pain of Not Knowing – with Greg Prince
What happens when a faith community quietly backs away from a doctrine without ever really owning the fallout? In this episode, historian and author Greg Prince returns to talk about the long shadow of Mormon polygamy - not just in the 19th cen...
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Season 3
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Episode 47
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1:10:24
A Conversation with Jordan Broadbent
Ian and Jim sit down with Jordan Broadbent, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Head of Humanitarian Efforts for Europe. From his early faith journey in England to his transformative shift from the corporate world into humanitarian...
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Season 3
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Episode 46
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1:09:56
A Conversation with Stephen Hunter
What happens when a Latter-day Saint bishop begins to ask deeper questions about faith, purpose, and the nature of God? In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Ian and Jim sit down with Stephen Hunter — former political lobbyist, bis...
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Season 3
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Episode 45
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A Conversation with Steven Hassan
What happens when faith, psychology, and the power of influence collide? In this extraordinary episode, Jim and Ian welcome Dr. Steven Hassan, one of the world’s foremost experts on cult dynamics, undue influence, and mind control. A former mem...
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Season 3
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Episode 44
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Apostolic Interregnum Thoughts - with Greg Prince
In this post–General Conference discussion, Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about what just unfolded during the Church’s apostolic interregnum since President Nelson’s passing.
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Season 3
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Episode 43
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LIVESTREAM TONIGHT! 8:00 PM Mountain Time - General Conference recap
Our second livestream! We'll be recapping General Conference and hopefully taking questions from you guys!Click here for the link to tonight's livestream at 8:00 PM MDT, or use th...
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Prophetic Voices in a Divided World - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a wide-ranging and timely conversation about the tragic attack on a Michigan Latter-day Saint congregation, the passing of President Russell M. Nelson, and the future of President Da...
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Season 3
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Episode 41
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1:16:16
LIVESTREAM TONIGHT! 8:00 PM MOUNTAIN TIME!
Tonight, we launch the Inside Out YouTube Channel with a livestream at 8:00 PM Mountain Time. We'll be talking about the passing of President Nelson, the tragic shooting in Michigan, and General Conference coming up, with speculation about what...
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Joseph Smith: The Architect of Mormonism — A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian
Ian and Jim sit down with scholar and author Ganesh Cherian, whose new book Joseph Smith: The Architect of Mormonism offers a topical biography of Mormonism’s founding prophet.
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Season 3
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Episode 40
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1:17:55
A Conversation with Bruce Butcher
This episode discusses grief and suicide. Listener discretion is advised.Ian and Jim sit down with Bruce Butcher—a longtime listener and friend of the podcast—for a conversation that goes straight to the heart. Bruce shares his faith jou...
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Season 3
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Episode 39
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1:08:38
Lessons on Faith and Adaptation - with Greg Prince
Greg Prince returns to Inside Out to continue exploring his roadmap for improving Mormonism. Together, Greg, Ian, and Jim tackle urgent issues facing the Church today—from toxic polarization and the need for prophetic voices to sp...
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Season 3
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Episode 38
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1:11:34
The Assassination of Charlie Kirk
Ian and Jim have a conversation about the horrific assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University.
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Season 3
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Episode 37
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An Inconvenient Faith – A Conversation with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back historian and author Greg Prince for a candid discussion about the newly released YouTube docuseries An Inconvenient Faith, which explores pressing issues facing members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-...
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Season 3
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Episode 36
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1:14:44
Women and Authority - with Valerie Hamaker
In this episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim welcome back licensed professional counselor and host of the Latter-day Struggles podcast, Valerie Hamaker. Together, they dive into one of the most pressing questions facing the Chur...
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Season 3
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Episode 35
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1:10:14
A Conversation with Clayton Settle
Ian and Jim welcome special guest Clayton Settle, a lifelong Latter-day Saint who shares his journey of faith, questions, and resilience.Clayton opens up about growing up in Corpus Christi, Texas, serving a mission in Nevada, and raising...
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Season 3
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Episode 34
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1:20:24
Boredom, Belief, and Bold Ideas for Change - with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back one of their most popular guests, historian and author Greg Prince, for another deep dive into his roadmap for improving Mormonism. The conversation ranges from biblical literacy among Latter-day Saints to the Church’s ...
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Season 3
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Episode 33
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1:14:46
The Church Defenders Who Attack the Church
A keynote. A controversy. And a defense you won’t hear anywhere else. Jim and Ian unpack the online backlash against Church Communications Director Aaron Sherinian after his FAIR conference appearance - tackling misquotes, double standards, and...
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Season 3
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Episode 32
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Confronting the Origins of The Book of Mormon with Steven Pynakker
Ian and Jim welcome back special guest Steven Pynakker, founder and host of the popular Mormon Book Reviews podcast. Together, they tackle one of the most audacious questions in the Restoration movement: Where did the Book of Mormon co...
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Season 3
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Episode 31
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1:22:00
A Roadmap for Improving Mormonism (Part 1) – with Greg Prince
Ian and Jim welcome back distinguished scholar and author Greg Prince to unpack his groundbreaking essay, A Roadmap for Improving Mormonism. What begins as a bold comparison between Vatican II and a proposed "Salt Lake I" turns into an...
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Season 3
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Episode 30
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Heavenly Mothers
Ian and Jim dive deep into one of Mormonism’s most sacred — and least discussed — doctrines: the existence of a Heavenly Mother… or perhaps, Heavenly Mothers. Triggered by a recent offhand comment by President Dallin H. Oaks, the discussion foc...
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Season 3
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Episode 29
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1:22:08
Greg Prince Returns!
Ian and Jim welcome back acclaimed historian and author Greg Prince for a follow-up conversation about the future of missionary work in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Together, they explore how the Church's immense resour...
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Season 3
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Episode 28
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1:20:44
A Conversation About Humanitarian Missions with Julie and Marty Newton
Ian and Jim sit down with Jim's sister Julie Newton and her husband Marty Newton, who are serving as senior missionaries in Adelaide, Australia. Their mission? Not door-to-door proselytizing—but boots-on-the-ground humanitarian work across the ...
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Season 3
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Episode 27
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