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#1362 - The Downside Of Setting Boundaries

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Have you ever struggled with setting boundaries for yourself, only to find out that the consequences can be quite challenging? In this candid conversation,  hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros discuss the importance of staying in alignment with our goals and the sacrifices that come with pursuing big dreams. We talk about letting go of the need to be liked by everyone and focusing on our own personal growth and achievements. Tune in and learn how to navigate the challenging yet rewarding journey of setting boundaries for the sake of personal growth and achievement.

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Show notes:
[4:07] Ability to set boundaries
[5:48] Alan shares a story
[7:20] Flirting with burnout
[11:55] Saying no if it's not in alignment
[17:52] Nathan expresses his appreciation for the invaluable coaching services he received from Alan
[18:34] Kevin's bodybuilding prep
[21:05] Goals above friendships
[26:27] Learning to let go
[32:35] Outro

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Speaker 1:

It's just. At the end of the day, are you gonna be upset with yourself for going out of alignment? You know I've had to say no to a lot of things over the last six years, but I'm usually yeah. I would say I'm 99 times out of 100. I'm grateful I did.

Speaker 2:

If it's not an alignment you kind of have to accept that your friends are not going to accept you, because that relationship was built on a version of you that no longer exists.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we teach you how to level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed our latest episode. It was one simple habit to help you find perspective. Episode number 1361.

Speaker 1:

Today for episode number 1362, the downside of setting boundaries. So our goal is always to talk openly and authentically about the struggles and successes when it comes to growing and relationships and money and all that happy jazz. And it's unfortunate that at times when you feel like you've overcome one hurdle, there is another potential hurdle after that. But I do think that is the journey of life. So one of the big things we talk about is boundaries and understanding that many of us do not set boundaries because we do not believe we are deserving of them. Sometimes it's a self-worth issue. There's a lot that can go into that.

Speaker 1:

We won't get into that super deep in this episode, but this weekend I had a birthday party that I think I mentioned that I was going to on one of the previous episodes. So Taryn was in New York, as I mentioned last episode and she, i think she texted me sometime in the morning on Friday. She said how's your day going? And I said oh, it's busy, blah, blah, blah, whatever it is. And she said you're still going to that party tonight, right? Or are you excited for the party tonight? I don't remember what the phrasing was And I said, honestly, i'm not going.

Speaker 1:

I texted the person who's having it last night and I told him I just can't. And she's like why are you okay? And I said well, number one, i don't feel great. You and I didn't feel great last weekend. Both of us were kind of under the weather or under the pressure, i guess It's probably the best way to put it. And I said, honestly, i'm not going to get done my last call until like 7 o'clock 7, 30, 8 o'clock, depending on what's going on And the last thing I want to do is drive an hour and 15 minutes to be around a bunch of people for an hour before I come home because I have a call early on Saturday. So, honestly, yeah, no, i'm good, i just it just doesn't make sense And I really need the time.

Speaker 1:

And that's what I told this person when I texted them. I said look, i'm sorry if I I audio them. I said I'm sorry if I'm letting you down. I'm sorry if you feel any type of way. I just am burning down, honestly, and I'm struggling to keep up with everything and I just need a weekend. I just need time. I just need time to be me and just be by myself. And I felt like garbage. I really did. I felt like, you know, i'm letting this person down and this is something that they're going to remember forever. And there's Kev again baling in the last minute, that type of stuff. But the person was very kind and they were very understanding, but it still sucked. You know it was still after I sent the message. I had the worst.

Speaker 1:

It's the worst I had those thoughts of I hope this person is nice And I hope they don't send me a message back Same, same mean or whatever it is. So it's, it's challenging when maybe one of your biggest current bottlenecks is your lack of ability to set boundaries. Unfortunately, you will, unfortunately, or fortunately, you will have the opportunity to learn a new skill when you start setting boundaries The, the guilt, the dealing with pushback, whatever it may be. Alan and I both experience this, because we tend to try to make sure we're staying in alignment And oftentimes there is pushback when you do set boundaries. So I thought it would be a valuable, important episode, because it's a very important one, because I don't want you to think that we have it all figured out and we just set boundaries And we're like, all right, cool, i'm going to go on with my life, because there's a lot of internal stuff that comes with it.

Speaker 2:

This is my When it comes to growth, when it comes to goals, when it comes to the process required of you to achieve those goals and to achieve that growth. This is my least favorite part. This is my least favorite part of the growth journey. Just, you know, when you're committed to maximizing your potential, when you're committed to growth, you inevitably have to say no to a lot of things that are not aligned. I actually believe this to be true. I think that the main reason, the number one reason, people don't have big goals, i believe, is self-belief. That's fair. We've done episodes about that. Number two reason is this I think I had a friend of mine and this is something that I'm, i want to say, reluctant to share, but I This part sucks, this is the part of the journey that just sucks, so I just want to share it with the listeners.

Speaker 2:

So I've known this person since he was four years old and I was five years old and he was like a brother to me growing up and his family was like a second family to me and fast forward, fast forward, fast forward. We are best friends in the tail end of high school and early college and his parents do foster care, and there was a child named Tia that ended up becoming his little sister. They ended up adopting Tia, which was awesome, and I've known Tia since she was two and Tia just graduated high school, so we are getting old, which was wild. So he texted me. He said hey brother, tia's graduating and the graduation party is this weekend.

Speaker 2:

I'd love for you to swing by. That would make her feel really special, it'd be really great, and there's a huge part of me that wanted to do that. I was like okay, and I said, brother, i work every Saturday and what are the times? What are the times? This is all via text message, so I'm paraphrasing here. But he said it starts at two, but come whenever. He said, even if you can only come for five minutes, like you know, come, come on by, I really want to, i really wanted to.

Speaker 2:

I said, okay, i'll try to make it work. And I literally texted him I said is seven, two late, because my last call doesn't end until basically six thirty? And he's like no, that works Awesome, fast forward, fast forward, fast forward. I have talked a little bit on the podcast, but definitely a lot behind the scenes, about me flirting with burnout. I've been flirting with burnout a lot lately and it's been messing with me quite a bit because the compound effect of positive habits and goals and dreams and workouts, and we're just spreading, i would say I'm stretching in a lot of different areas. There's no one area where I feel completely overwhelmed, but but all of them combined. You know it's the idea of stretch the rubber band, but don't let it snap. I can tell that I'm a little bit close to it, snapping holistically, and so I've been flirting with burnout a bit.

Speaker 2:

And if you've ever seen that really awesome meme on the internet, i think Derek posted this in a ball ventures society. So shout out to Derek if you're, if you're listening, but essentially apparently it's a book cover, by the way, about burnout. I don't, i didn't know that, but it's, it's these matches all lined up in a row And they're all burning, and then it it's essentially one matches pulled back away from the other matches, and it says this is the power of stepping back, because then the other chain of matches doesn't get lit. In other words, when you're burning down, take one step back in order to take 10 steps forward, which is what I did this weekend. So I texted him and this is verbatim what I shared. And this sucks because I, just like Kevin, i felt terrible about this. I said, brother, two podcasts, two podcasts, one training, book club, and then four back to back coaching sessions.

Speaker 2:

I've been full out since I woke up and I'm genuinely flirting with burnout. There's just no way I can make it today. Please send to you and the family my love And I know our pop. Our paths will cross again soon with a heart And I'm sure, kev, i've been thinking a lot about this lately.

Speaker 2:

A lot of my past friends are upset with me And I honestly don't. It's this weird thing where I do understand that they don't fully understand and they couldn't, and I get that. So I'm on my side with this too. But I kind of get like if any of my friends were to call me out and say, dude, like what the hell? I would probably just be like yeah, that's fair, i chose. I chose my growth journey over my friendships, and that's really hard to admit. But that was a conscious choice And that's why I'm sharing it on the podcast, because the larger your goals are, the more you're going to have to grow. The larger your goals are, the higher standards you're going to have to have for where you invest your time and your effort and what you focus on You focus on.

Speaker 2:

I, as CEO of this company, must advocate for what's best for NLU and I have to prioritize NLU's growth and I have to prioritize my own growth and I have to prioritize the team's growth and I have to prioritize the client's growth. It's very difficult for me to pour into person's places, things and ideas that are outside of NLU's growth, because NLU, the, we, the businesses, they require a lot of you. And then on top of that, i have a home, i have two pets I don't have children yet, but we're preparing and then my relationship with Emilia. It's just when you get older you realize it's like listen, this is humble pie time. I cannot go.

Speaker 2:

I think a lot of people get that, but I think a lot of people also don't, at least not to this extent. and this is the hardest part of the journey, in my opinion, because when you watch my social media it looks as if I'm relaxing a lot, but you got to remember a lot of those are the times when I am relaxing, and a lot of that is walks with Emilia in nature, which is also fitness or whatever, and so I think that it's just this is the hardest part of the journey. If growth is your number one priority, it's going to be very difficult, very difficult to harmonize that with friends and other things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the unfortunate truth is some people will be upset. That's I mean, that's just the unfortunate truth. I don't know if there's any way around that. It's just. At the end of the day, are you going to be upset with yourself for going out of alignment?

Speaker 1:

I've had to say no to a lot of things over the last six years, but I'm usually yeah. I would say I'm 99 times out of 100, i'm grateful I did, if it's not an alignment. I remember one of my close friends messaged me and he said hey, are you going to come to the bachelor party for one of our buddies, right? I was like no man, no, i'm going to go across the country to go to a bachelor party with somebody and I'll talk to you that often. For what? For what? I'm not worried about missing out on something, not on that, and I'm not worried about missing out on a strip club or whatever. I don't know what you're planning on doing. It's just probably not aligned with what I want to do, but that sucks. I do believe I'm blessed because the job that I had required me to say no to a lot of things.

Speaker 2:

I was never home.

Speaker 1:

I was never home so I didn't know I can't come to your birthday on Wednesday.

Speaker 2:

It was an option.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, i'm going to be in New Jersey. No, i can't come to the cookout on Saturday. I'm not going to get home until four o'clock in the morning and then I need to pack and prepare. I think the hard part about this is when you say no, this is on me, there's no external reason I can't come, it's just I'm deciding not to because the truth is I could have gone. I mean, that's the hard truth.

Speaker 2:

I could have gone, you could have gone, but it wouldn't have been what's best for me And it wouldn't have been what's best for NLU and it wouldn't have been what's best for clients and this podcast, but it would have been what's best for Tia and it would have been what's best for this person, but that's being an adult. You decided.

Speaker 1:

That's the hard thing. Nobody's going to get you know. If I said what's it? I have tickets to hey, could you? you mind coming over for dinner tonight? I have tickets to a playoff hockey game or whatever. Nobody's going to say, well, skip the game and come to the dinner. They're like no way Good for you.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

No way Good for you. But if it's like I have coaching calls tonight, I know. That it's me deciding that what I value is what is more important than what I value, than what you think I value.

Speaker 2:

Or what I should value.

Speaker 1:

What you think I should value, what we used to value. That's the hard thing, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Kev, this is good. This is really really good for our listeners in particular, because this is, like, by far the hardest part. Self-belief, for me, wasn't the issue. This was the issue. I have this manifestation equation that I do with all my clients and if you're curious to reach out, i can give it to you. It's 10 steps and basically it's an assessment of like if you're not achieving your goal. This is why There's an X right here. Self-awareness is one of them, visualization is one of them, self-belief is one of them.

Speaker 2:

My biggest issue I went through it. I obviously do all these assessments. I don't like to give anything that I don't do. I did the assessment, one of the steps in this 10 step formula for lack of better phrasing, which we're going to teach the retreat. We're going to teach this a lot, but anyways, the seventh step is strict alignment. Strict alignment is the ability to say no to all of the person's places, things and ideas that are not in alignment with your goal. Kev, i want to ask you this I've always had goals. I've always been a goal oriented person.

Speaker 2:

I'll say that Pretty big goals statistically speaking. Blah, blah, blah For someone who didn't used to have goals. And now here's the thing If you really didn't want to go, this wouldn't be as big of a deal. Yeah, it would still suck to say that Like I actually wanted to go. I just had this really humbling moment of that is never going to.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if that's going to be what's best for me, like almost ever, because you, emilia and I sat down, we did a time audit on Sunday and her and I are eating a lot of humble pie lately regarding how much time we have versus. I'm very grateful. The demand on our time is very high. I'm very grateful. That's what we wanted, right, we have listeners all over the world. We have clients all over the world. It's awesome. That's what success is. It's also like whoa, like the days of taking a day are gone for me 100%. I know that I can take a couple hours, but I'm never going to take a day. That's not going to happen for me again And that's okay. That's what it takes to be a CEO, to be, you know, have multiple companies, be a business owner. That's the ironic thing. I have time freedom and I could go if I wanted, but in a way that's a duality of like just because I can go, it's almost guaranteed that I shouldn't. It's like the only reason I have time freedom now is because of how careful I've dialed in my time. So I digress. Question for you, kev Now that you have large goals, you have a large responsibilities, i there's a lot of people that say like, oh, you don't need to sacrifice, and it's not.

Speaker 2:

It's not a sacrifice. No, no, no, it's 100% a sacrifice. That was a sacrifice. The only thing noted that was 100% a sacrifice. Now, it was a conscious choice. It was a tough decision. It was what was best. I do believe, and I am grateful that I made that choice, because I think the alternative would have been less optimal for me and in general. But for someone who spent 25 years, 26 years, without huge goals, what's it like now having to say no to pretty much everything outside of alignment? because that's what big goals are? There's very little that are. That's inside of alignment with huge goals.

Speaker 3:

My name is Nathan Schwerman. I'm from Lawrence Kansas. I've been a client of Allen's for coming on two years now and I really can't recommend this program enough. Allen's always there for me with great advice and holding me accountable every step of the way And really leading by example. I've grown a lot in his program, but he's grown alongside with me, so I'd really recommend joining up on the program and joining the community.

Speaker 1:

I think I have more practice than you probably think, just because I mean, the travel was one I had big goals compared to a lot of people I knew. Right, the bodybuilding thing Yeah, the bodybuilding is one of the hardest things in the world because there's so much external. So I did a bodybuilding prep. So, for those who don't know you, basically I ate chicken, rice, broccoli, eggs, protein shakes. That's pretty much it Every single day for three months straight.

Speaker 2:

Oh, peanut butter in there. Yeah, there's peanut butter oats as well, not towards the end, though.

Speaker 1:

The oats and the peanut butter go away, the closer you get. And this was for a three, three and a half month prep, enduring prep, the 4th of July, my birthday, two weddings and my girlfriend at the time's birthday. And every single one of those times I stayed on my diet, other than on the 4th of July when I had a handful of M&Ms and I texted my coach and he's like why would you even tell me? I was like because I had to. I felt guilty.

Speaker 2:

Now again, i don't know if any of that is quote, unquote, healthy. Forgive me, coach, for I have sinned Forgive me coach.

Speaker 1:

But I remember being at this wedding and people were not happy with me Same Because I pulled out my prepped meal.

Speaker 2:

And they paid for the Yeah whatever. Yeah, i know.

Speaker 1:

It's 35 bucks. You want the money. I'll give you the money. Whatever, what's the big deal? Let me accomplish my dreams damn it.

Speaker 1:

So I do have a good amount of setting boundaries in the past based on goals that people didn't understand, if anything. Now it's almost easier because at least I have some results to show that I'm an actual business owner. I don't know, man. I think now for me it's probably easier than ever because I think people are starting to understand And most of the people in my life they've gotten. This is the interesting thing. They've gotten through all the other filters of like can't come because of this, not interested because of this Boom, boom, boom, and they justthey keep asking or they keep understanding. Maybe they keep asking and they keep understanding. I don't know. I do feel like, in some way, shape or form, i'm relatively used to disappointing people.

Speaker 2:

That's a fair assessment. Definitely I hate it.

Speaker 1:

I've just gotten somewhat okay with it Not okay, but somewhat okay. I think less about it than I ever have.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe this is better for you to ask me, because I think it bothers me more than you It does. I remember one time Kev said well, you just don't value friendships. It's like dude. No, that's not true at all. I value friendships so much, i have to value them less because I value my goals so much. I value impact, i value building this business, this businessand, by the way and this is something too There are ways to be in my world. There are ways toyou can coach with me. You can come to all of our free events.

Speaker 1:

What are you actually afraid of when you set boundaries?

Speaker 2:

Like what's definitely part of it is the last show, like you said, like I'm half expecting a text back of like dude, you're a terrible friend and I would honestly and that's why I already have the answer it's like fair based on your perspective. I think that's fair, based on what you think a friendship is. That is fair. I don't think I'm a terrible friend. I think that, based on what you want from a friend, i would say I understand why you feel that way and I did make a conscious choice to put my relationship with Emilia and this business first if, if you did get the pushback, what would happen then?

Speaker 1:

do you think if you did get that message back?

Speaker 2:

I would probably have to say I think it's understandable why you feel that way, but I would also probably shield, bump it a little bit and say you really don't understand what my life is like, and that's okay. Maybe you never will, but I have to say that because you've never grown a multi-million dollar business and and you never will, and that's okay, i'm not making you. I chose this road and I knew that this is what comes with it. The old me would have been very upset with him. The new me is is grown up enough now and mature enough to be like. You know what I get, why they're upset with me, and I don't think I'm gonna dance around it anymore, i think I'm just gonna be like, yeah, i get it.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't come to your wedding. I couldn't. I missed I missed three weddings of, like, friends of mine that I grew up with. That, like I'm talking next door neighbors, i'm talking. One person asked me to be in the wedding, like as a groomsman. Granted, it was in Newport Beach, california, and like you know, i'm, you and I are doing something different and and I think that that's the real lesson here for our listeners, rather than making this about Kevin and I the list the the the more you focus on your personal growth, the more you focus on your personal goals, the more you focus on achievement, the the more you have to say no to you know, i mean it's a weird analogy, but like when I mean I used to say this all the time, but it's not like I can call up Jennifer Lopez and say, hey, can you come over this weekend? she's busy. It's like you know what I mean. The expectations are off because it's almost like you're basing this off of a past friendship we had. Back then I did have the time, totally understandable. Now I want to be there, i do. I want to celebrate to you graduating high school. That's very aligned for me. That was on the far end of aligned for me, you know, but it's still not aligned.

Speaker 2:

When I'm burning down and what people don't realize, as we're a business owners, is like we, if we don't work, this business stops growing. If this stop, if this business stops growing, all the listeners suffer, all the team suffers. You and I's live suffer. Our, our, you know intimate relationships suffer. You know we have a trajectory of growth and we're an impact and we're helping a lot of people and I want to help to you too. I want to be there for Tia, but I can't be there for everybody.

Speaker 2:

And and the dance your original question, kev. Part of it hurts my heart because I really do want to be there and I think that that's valid. The other part of it hurts my heart because I know they're upset with me and there's almost nothing I can do about that and I think that that I've gotten to a place now through therapy work and I kind of am starting to accept that a lot of people are not gonna like me. That's been weird for me because I spent a lot of my life unconsciously wanting to be liked. We talked about that on the interview you did with me and I think I'm letting go of that a lot lately. It's been really messing with me a little bit, like inside of me I'm kind of growing up in the sense of like I don't think I almost no matter what I do, i don't think I think there's a lot of people that are just not gonna like me and for me that's always been hard.

Speaker 2:

I think I've always wanted to be a good friend and a good person and I mean everything I do is to help people. You know, pretty much even saying no to Tia's graduation party is it's not? so I can like chill out for the next couple weeks. You know, dinner with me, it's it's R&R, so that I can do more Monday, so that I can not burn down. You know, and I think I just kind of realized recently like I have to let go, it's called acceptance and commitment therapy, it's called the ACT. There's a therapy modality that Emilia suggested that I look into, which is you kind of have to accept that your friends are not going to accept you because that relationship was built on a version of you that you no longer exists, and you have to commit to saying, okay, now that I know that our families aren't gonna fully understand and that my past friends aren't gonna fully understand, it's like, okay, just commit and and own it. You're right, you know, and from your perspective, i am a bad friend. I get it.

Speaker 1:

I think the hardest I. We got a pop here because I got to go, but maybe we can do a deeper, a deeper dive into this. I think one of the hardest things about it is you subconsciously know it's never gonna get better. I know the same, it's like yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm drawing a line in the sand that you and I both kind of know is probably a line in the sand. Yep, and I'm afraid what you're gonna think for the future, that because at the end of the day it is it's up to me whether or not I come, it's up to me. There's nothing you can really say and will it make me feel bad. Yeah, but I still have to make my decision.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

I still have to make the decision that I believe is best for me, for my family, for the business, for the world, my health, for the world. I think there's a there's a regretful part of us that's like, mmm, this is almost me taking one step back on the track And I know that if I take one step back, i may never take this step again And it's just back and back and back. So I very much understand that. I very much understand that Taryn, when she's away, she's very, extra, extra, extra lovey because she misses being home. And one of the gratitudes was you've helped me tremendously when it comes to setting boundaries. It's like that's just something I'm used to. I've had to do that for a long time Now. What I cannot help you with is the pushback you get, because that's not up to me, that's, i cannot control the pushback you get from other people. I can help you set boundaries. I just can't promise what they're going to say when you do And you will get pushback, particularly people that are entitled.

Speaker 3:

And I know you've got to jump.

Speaker 2:

But, kev, the bigger your goals are, the harder it will be, the more boundaries you'll have to set. That's a fact. The larger your goals are, the more boundaries you will have to set. It's not even a choice. It didn't even feel like a choice. It felt like I need to do this because anything outside of alignment with this I can't do it. And that sucked. But the moment you and I chose this path, a lot of stuff became not aligned, and that's why I think, and again I think, that's why big goals are not common. One of the reasons I think the other reason is self-belief.

Speaker 1:

Or less aligned.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, less aligned.

Speaker 1:

It's not that it's not aligned, it's just less aligned than me, r and R-ing, because I'm burning down. So I texted you Saturday. I was like I skipped the chief officer meeting because I literally couldn't. I was so dizzy. For some reason I was having these dizzy spells. I don't know what the hell was going on, and I was just laying on the couch like, oh, the last thing I need to do is be on calls. And I had a podcast that afternoon And I went and I crushed it, i delivered, i tried, i gave it hell like I do, but after that, that was it.

Speaker 1:

You're not going to see much of Kevin this weekend because Kevin's burning down. Yeah, we'll do another. I'm sure we'll do many episodes on this, but this is one of the hardest things about growth. This is one of the hardest things about goals And this is probably the hardest thing about putting yourself first, because when people are thinking of themselves, they're not thinking of you necessarily. Hopefully, you have people in your life like Alan, like myself, where if you tell me you can't come to something, of course I'm going to understand.

Speaker 2:

Same, because most likely That's one thing that's fascinating.

Speaker 1:

Well, because I would never be upset with him, I know Yeah that's the weird, thing, but you understand. I do.

Speaker 2:

And maybe he's not upset. Who knows, i don't know, i'm probably a little upset.

Speaker 1:

Well, the interesting thing is there's only one option. There's two options Either and it's not this simple, but either the person gets over it and they understand this is par for the course when it comes to a relationship with the collective view if you're watching or listening or they never message us again. Unfortunately, those are the only two options. Either you accept me for me and understand that I'm not always going to be at the places you want me to be at the time you want me to be for the reasons you want me to be, or you say you know what This friendship isn't, what it used to be and it never will be.

Speaker 2:

Those are really the only two options. That whole never message me again thing has happened a couple times to me.

Speaker 1:

I would say, in the grand scheme of things, it's probably what's best.

Speaker 3:

Fair.

Speaker 1:

And I bet you it's probably, long term, the right thing anyway. Honestly, Fair. Same. Of course that's happened. For me it's almost like cool, now I'm not going to. You'll be upset forever maybe, but I'm never going to upset you again. Yeah that's true, that's true, and because I'm never going to change my mind.

Speaker 1:

I know I can't, i can't change my mind, i know. So, ok, we got to go. Next Level Nation join our private Facebook group, next Level Nation, where you will not get guilted for doing the right thing. I can promise you that.

Speaker 2:

Also Next Level Hope Foundation. June 18, father's Day. You can either potentially attend Either way. Please go to the landing page. This is a super good cause. Kevin and I both grew up without fathers. We wanted to make a special day that's traditionally sad, into something happy and fun Sports activities. It's awesome. Please check out the landing page. It will be at the link in the show notes And you can either donate or there's an RSVP to attend if you are local And if you do have children or are a single parent rather.

Speaker 1:

Tomorrow for episode number 1,363, the three big things that determine who you become. We talked about who you become in I don't remember which one it was 1,360, maybe I don't know what episode it was But we're going to go deeper, into three deeper understandings, three tactics. I don't know yet because I don't remember what they are, but Alan does, as always. We love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we do not have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

Set and keep those boundaries. Next Level Nation.

Speaker 1:

Son, Have you one? Oh for sure. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Speaker 2:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.

Speaker 1:

Thank, you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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