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#1397 - Who Are Your Role Models?

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Imagine growing up without a role model to guide you, or perhaps, being lost in the sea of influences and not knowing who or what to look up to. In this episode,  hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros explore the profound impact of role models in our lives. They reflect on how the absence of significant influences during their youth affected them and the importance of continually reassessing who our heroes are and why. They discuss the fine line between admiration, actively seeking a role model, and the often unmentioned idea of outgrowing our mentors. They also talk about the critical characteristics of humility and honesty for choosing a mentor, and the importance of being true to ourselves in the process. It's not just about having a role model, but also about understanding why they are your role model.

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Show notes:
[4:56] Everyone needs a hero
[9:50] You should not follow role models blindly
[14:53] Nicole shares how Kevin and the Next Level Podcast Solutions team help her with her podcast seamlessly and provide a fantastic experience. 
[15:40] There's no one end-all-be-all book
[18:02] Outgrowlooking up
[23:53] What you aspire to changes
[31:23] Outro

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Shouldn't yeah, shouldn't do it. Next level nation. Welcome back to another episode of next level University, where we teach you how to level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed our latest episode. I believe it was episode number 1396. Sometimes, staying away is harder than leaving in the first place. Today for episode number 1397.

Speaker 2:

Who are your role models? Alan and I have talked a lot about our upbringings in our past, in our histories and the things that we have been through, and I think one of the common Themes that Alan and I have together is we didn't have a lot of role models. We had people who tried really hard. We had people who maybe we did look up to at the time, but now we're at a certain age where we can say, okay, well, why did we actually look up to those people? Was it because there was nobody else around? Was it because they had nice things? Maybe you value intelligence and they were intelligent, or you valued money and they had money. This is a question that I wish. I wish I asked myself sooner, not just so I could find new role models, but so I could understand why the role models I had, or actually the role models that maybe I had and so that you can kind of take people off the pedestal who haven't earned it.

Speaker 2:

That has been an interesting Interesting there. It is one of the most valuable things about this journey, this podcast journey, this business journey, interviewing so many people. We have seen behind the scenes of some very successful people and we have, excuse me, realize pretty quickly that there are certain things we don't look up to about them. I it's interesting. Jesus, there it is again. I gotta stop saying it now that I, now that I hear it, I'll never unhear it.

Speaker 1:

But I also can't stop myself from saying we did an episode recently about when you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change now it bothers me, yeah bad, whereas it didn't bother you before.

Speaker 2:

so I sent a an audio message to one, anthony trucks. Oh yes, the other day, ah shift, ah shift. I don't know if that's. Is that still? Still the?

Speaker 1:

name.

Speaker 2:

Any message me back and him and I were we're chatting and that's somebody who, when we got around, it was one of the rare people who we actually got closer to and I had I had more respect for him it's it's challenging how difficult that's been. Again, we've had amazing mentors and we've been surrounded by a lot of amazing people, but the More time you spend around someone, the closer you get to someone, the closer you get to the truth. My goal in this episode is for you to ask yourself a simple question why do I look up to the people that I look up to? Is it Fully intentional? Is it to the detriment of your character? Is it really what's best for you? That's really my thought process for this episode.

Speaker 1:

This one's gonna be a tough one for me, because I feel like I looked up most of my life to a lot of people and what's been really challenging for me in my 30s, quite frankly, has been you know, you interview so many people and you coach so many people and you meet so many people from all different countries, all different backgrounds, all different cultures, and you realize over time that as you grow and grow and grow and learn and learn and learn, you become more conscious, more capable Exponentially, and that's what and I'll use all about. So of course we're practicing what we preach and then eventually you Realize that a lot of the people that you looked up to we're not doing that. That's been the hardest part for me is to. In the last episode we talked a lot about old world and how hard it can be to go to new world. But once you've been in new world for a long time for lack of better phrasing Going back to old world can be very alarming. It can be very oh Wow.

Speaker 1:

So I Used to look up to you and I realize in hindsight that maybe that wasn't what was best for me, and so I Do think everyone needs heroes. I think for me. I use fictional characters. I I used people that I knew in my life and I think that Everybody can be a hero for a chapter. But I think you have to constantly reevaluate this, like who do you look up to? Why do you look up to them? Who inspires you? Who do you admire and why? And what are the strengths and weaknesses? I think that we're all warnings and examples. We're all an example in something and a warning in another. For me, self-confidence and self-belief, I would say I'm an example, but for arrogance, I would say I'm a warning. You know, for other people, there's a strength that comes with every weakness and there's a weakness that comes with every strength. And we don't talk about this enough in our day-to-day life. We do on the podcast all the time. But there's this idea of a character diamond, and at the top of the diamond, kev, there's the character's strengths. And in storytelling and film and books, novelists, they all know this character diamond, they know this understanding and on this diamond there's the top, which is the strengths. So every superhero, you can think of their strengths, but that strength comes with a weakness as well. So, for example, if compassion is the strength, being taken advantage of is likely the weakness. Being naive is likely the weakness. Emilia talks about her compassionate bone and how sometimes she always wants to see the best in people and be there for them, and then they take advantage of that, you know. So every strength comes with a weakness. Every weakness has a potential strength within it, and that's why every superman has a has a kryptonite, every superwoman has a kryptonite, every superhero has a kryptonite. And so whoever your heroes are, whoever your mentors are I mean, I have mentors I've had, probably. I'll give this story.

Speaker 1:

I was an electrical and computer engineer. I graduated with my bachelor's degree. This was back in 2011. And I was considering whether or not I wanted to go into corporate or I wanted to stay in school to get my graduate degree. And I remember I sent an email to one of my past mentors and I asked what would you do?

Speaker 1:

And in hindsight, I've recently run into that mentor of mine and I had this moment, this real moment of I should not have asked you. And it wasn't from a place of negativity, it wasn't from a place of you're not amazing, still in your own right. It was from a place of you don't know what is best in corporate. You never had my goals, you never had my dreams, you never knew. I was asking for advice from people who didn't really know. It's kind of like you go to a new city or you go to a new town or you go to a new state or you go to a new country and imagine, imagine asking, hey, you know where's this restaurant? And that person says I'm from out of town. I don't know. I was asking people who were from out of town for directions and I didn't realize I was doing that. I just figured they knew and I just what I didn't know is how little they knew. That was my kryptonite and the strength in that is wow. It turns out I knew more than I thought and I grew more than I thought and I'm more aware than I thought, and that's, for me, been fascinating.

Speaker 1:

I've had a lot of coaches and mentors and Kevin and I have interviewed people, a lot of people on the show. One of the reasons we don't interview people anymore, quite frankly, is because in some ways, we've outgrown a lot of the people we used to interview, and that's very, very hard to share, and I mean personal growth, I don't mean necessarily financially or in their unique genius zone. I think there's something to learn from everyone. Everyone's a warning and an example and there's no one I can't learn from. But when it comes to what we're showing, we're not going to be able to do that. But when it comes to what we're shooting for and our character and holistic self-improvement health, wealth and love and I talk all the time about how I've seen people that are healthy and not wealthy. I've seen people that are wealthy and not healthy. I've seen people that are healthy and wealthy but they're certainly not in love, and there's very few people who I consider healthy, wealthy and in love at the level that I aspire to, and I think that that's probably true for a lot of our listeners.

Speaker 1:

So I think all of you out there are in one of the two places Either you're like me and you looked up too much and too often to too many people, or you're like Kev, and maybe you didn't look up enough and maybe you didn't have enough mentors or coaches. You know, I have a therapist. Her name's Carol. She's amazing. She guides me, but not in every area. She guides me in the area that she's an expert in, and I think that if you can kind of look at the strengths and weaknesses of everyone and yourself. You can really choose your heroes wisely for a purpose beyond yourself, and I've finally got that kind of figured out. I even tell one of my clients he's 17 years old and I say I am not. I'm a warning and an example and I'll give you the truth about myself. Like I'm hardworking, I'm definitely super curious, I'm a little bit obsessive. You know I have strengths, but you got to be careful because I have weaknesses too and you can't just blindly follow me.

Speaker 1:

You have to learn yourself along the way, and there's a lot that I can teach you that you need to apply to yourself uniquely, and that goes for every listener as well, and so hopefully that's helpful.

Speaker 2:

It's challenging because in the beginning you don't, I don't, I don't really think I felt like I had a choice. Yeah, to find role models. Most of my role models were my parents, friends I mean my friends, parents or my parents or my parents, friends, either one, really same. I think those are kind of the.

Speaker 2:

I remember we used to go we're gonna do an episode on that, yeah yeah, I used to go camping with this family and at the time I thought everything was rosy. And I looked up to this family and I remember. Now in retrospect, it's like the, the father in the family. I don't know if I've ever met somebody who swore as much as he did. His sense passed away and Looking back it's like, oh man, that family was not healthy and I spent a lot of time around that family a lot of time and maybe in not super safe environments.

Speaker 2:

Upon reflection now, and it's just, you don't really feel like you have a choice in the matter. It was almost by accident. Who are the people around that maybe have some positive Trates that I can look up to? I definitely wish I was more intentional with us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, same, I had mentors. I think there's a couple positions you're in either you don't have mentors available, maybe you don't believe in mentoring and having mentors, and in this case I'm when I say mentor, I'm referring to therapist, coach, any guide, anyone who's gonna like try to impart wisdom. Teachers are mentors. I have a teacher, christine, prior oh my god, like favorite teacher of all time and Anyone in your life who you are looking to for guidance. I would consider a mentor in this context. So you can either have no mentors available or you cannot believe in mentors. I have some clients who one of them is literally asking like I don't think I've ever looked up to anyone. I think I need to start looking up to people and I honestly I Think it's a dangerous game, but I think it's important.

Speaker 1:

It's almost like a Mentors or tools. They're not like end all Beals, it's. It's kind of like going to the gym. It's like you've got bench press and you've got Squats and you've got deadlifts, so you can't have one exercise that you just do on repeat and expect to be a well-rounded, rich, dynamic person. Same with mentors you have to have some in different areas and I think you know everyone should, should consider Therapy, everyone should consider a coach, everyone should consider mentors, and the mentors should be diverse. I think you know I consider Emilia a huge mentor of mine in certain areas that she's better in In her work emotional intelligence, you know, emotional regulation, for sure. And then there's other mentors that I have in business, and then there's, you know, other mentors that I haven't fitness. I used to, I think lately I've become sort of the mentor in that arena, which has been hard for me, quite frankly. But I think that If you're out there and you feel like you're lacking mentors, like Kevin, what would you share?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, do you think of role model and mentor the same? Yeah, interesting. My assumption was that a role model would embody everything that I wanted to embody. I don't know if I ever differentiated, that. I could take different pieces and kind of build upon that. I don't know. I don't know what I would share. I would say, ask yourself why is this person actually a role model? What is it about them? That's pretty much what we open the episode up with. Is it the fact that they make a lot of money and you want to make a lot of money? Is it the fact that they have a really good relationship? Is it the fact that they work really hard?

Speaker 2:

In retrospect, a lot of the people that I looked up to were people that worked really hard, but they also had their demons behind the scenes that I didn't understand when I was young. Now again, not making that wrong, not shaming them for that I just didn't understand it. Then, when you become more aware and you look back, you say, oh my goodness, was all of that, was any of that? What I thought it was? Was all of that? What I thought it was, was some of it, what I thought it was? Then it makes you have a new perspective around. It's almost like now. I'm gun shy. I've been disappointed so many times that I don't even know if I see the benefit anymore. I think that's kind of where I am. I feel like I have a pretty positive relationship with it. So if I sound down about it, it's not really how I feel. It's just something I haven't really explored that deeply before.

Speaker 1:

A good analogy that might help is books. There's no one end-all, be-all book that's going to teach you everything, just like there's no one end-all be-all person that's going to be the perfect role model. What you can do is read a lot of books and then cherry pick the ones that you think are the most useful and have the most merit. We all kind of have to be our own sort of scientist in the sense of okay, let me give that a shot, and I know maybe that wasn't it for me. It's so challenging. Honestly, I get it. I get why a lot of people feel so lost. I really do. There's so many books. They all say different, sometimes contrary, things, but you've got to resonate with the book and the author too.

Speaker 2:

I think that's a challenge, especially if you're not. I don't know. I feel like I'm starting to smack on the disc around. I feel like you're more of a natural reader, or maybe I'm just not. I don't know what the I don't know what if you're watching or listening. I don't know what your relationship with books is. For me it was never super well connected, but again, I didn't go to college. I wasn't somebody who valued it, so maybe that's more of a me thing.

Speaker 1:

Well, you can learn through books, you can learn through conversations. You can learn through courses. You can learn through formal school. You can learn through experience. You can learn through podcasts. Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1:

What's your flavor of mentor? What's your flavor? Is it authors? Is it friends? Is it family? Is it podcasters? Is it, you know, business leaders? Is it famous people? We were talking earlier, kevin and myself, and you know a lot of my heroes for lack of a better phrasing have fallen from the pedestal a little bit. And what's a good example of that? Growing up, I was always very drawn to Matthew McConaughey as an actor. He was someone who was charismatic and attractive and, I don't know, he was a male role model to me, unconsciously, and maybe consciously too. And then he came out with a book called Green Lights and I read the whole book. I couldn't put it down. It was very well written, but there's a lot of junk there too. And it's not like anything against Matthew McConaughey necessarily. I don't know his life and I do to the extent that he shared in the book, but at some point you've got to outgrow looking up, because at some point you're.

Speaker 1:

If you've ever seen Star Wars, there's a master and there's an apprentice. You know, and at some point you've got to become the master of your own destiny, your own life, your own choices. You can't look up forever.

Speaker 2:

And so at some point in the growth journey, doesn't it make sense that you would surpass your mentors if I think it depends on what you value, because if you, if you are an actor, then maybe you would look at Matthew McConaughey a little bit differently.

Speaker 2:

It's a sure I would so I think it depends on. I think it ultimately depends on why do you look up to the person? I really think that's gonna be my next level nugget for today's episode why, what is it about the person that you look up to? I watched UFC last Saturday if you're listening to this, it was the previous Saturday and One of the fighters it was his retirement fight he's my favorite fighter, robbie Lawler. I'm amazing, amazing fighter. He is as tough as they come wise here.

Speaker 2:

He's super humble to the point where they were. He almost didn't tell anybody he was gonna retire and he's. He's a Hall of Fame fighter. He is. He has been in three of the fight of the years, so he's been in some of the best fights ever to happen in mixed martial arts. He's incredible and he he said I wasn't gonna tell anybody, like I, but I felt like people deserve to know. He's like but even me saying that is weird. He's just very, very humble for somebody who is so world-class and that's why I looked up to him. Taryn Literally said to me she said are you gonna cry if he loses? I was like, absolutely I'm gonna cry if you wins. And he won, knock the guy out in the first round. But then they played this really nice video for him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and they've never done that before. And we had another friend over Brian and it was amazing, but and he was crying in the octagon and they literally said they said it's very rare for us to see that level of emotion for Robbie. That's why I look up to him. He's, he's very, he seems very positive, he seems like a, he seems like somebody who is doing things for the right reasons. He's not toxic, he doesn't talk trash, he just goes in, he gets the job done and leaves, and that's how he's always been. I look up to that a lot. But here's the thing what if he's too humble? What if he's self deprecating?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know what if behind the scenes?

Speaker 2:

what's your truth in that? No, I don't know if you can. The level of belief he has? No, I don't think so. But would I know that a Younger, less evolved version of Kev? I don't know. Sean Thornton, he played for the Bruins, he was the enforcer. Yeah, we stood up for his teammates.

Speaker 1:

He would always go on the Hillman morning show. Yeah, and I used to, he's very big into charity.

Speaker 2:

He has a, he has a charity event.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I feel like the people I've looked up to, who I wanted to be my role models. It was usually based on their character more than anything makes sense. I really think Joe Rogan I don't really look up to Joe Rogan anymore, really. Yeah, it's just not. There's too much toxic stuff. Yeah, I was lower vibe when I when I came across Joe Rogan and nothing against Joe Rogan. I do think he's probably on the higher end of character, honestly. Yeah, but it's just, I don't resonate with it anymore. I've outgrown.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's no longer what you aspire to.

Speaker 2:

That's the thing. That's fair right.

Speaker 1:

You, you become, you grow and you learn. And you, you increase your awareness, hyper consciousness throwback someone's and for the new listeners, that was the name of our old show. I always got to say that. But you become more aware and all of a sudden it's like I don't. It's like what? Who we look up to, what we look up to changes as we grow. I Made this fascinating joke to Kevin years ago 27 years ago I believe it was 27, 20, I think it was 1776 now.

Speaker 1:

But I said, kev, by the time you go on Joe Rogan, you, it won't be that big of a deal and what's fascinating is You've evolved so much by the time you get the opportunity. You might not even want the opportunity. That's fair and that's just such an interesting. That's the growth journey right there. Right, I mean by the time you, I Mean I remember when I was a young boy there were certain girls that I really, really, really wanted their attention and by the time I got their attention I was like I don't even want your attention anymore and that's the weird duality of life, it's like.

Speaker 1:

I Remember this and I'll share this Vulnerably on the show. I remember, before meeting Emilia, I said I'm never gonna make an intimate decision based on the physical anymore, because that was always, quite frankly, I always wanted to date pretty beautiful women and that was my thing, and eventually that wasn't working, like I kept. You know that wasn't working and I was like you know what I'm going on mental, emotional and spiritual. From now on, I will not make any intimate Decisions based on just the physical. Based on physical first is what I used to say.

Speaker 1:

Obviously it wasn't just physical, but you know I'm saying, and so what's ironic about that is that I ended up with Emilia and it was based entirely on mental, emotional and spiritual, and she ended up being the most physically attractive woman I've ever been with. And so it's crazy how things work out you know, in life and that's the one thing that I find I can understand, kev why some people get results beyond what they thought they would, and then they have to explain it more spiritually and Because I didn't expect that, I didn't design that this is, my relationship with Emilia is beyond what I honestly thought was possible, whereas some of this stuff was very by design.

Speaker 1:

Yeah you know, and that wasn't really by design, it still kind of was because I told Kevin like I'm never, I'm never settling again. I, I need someone who is more growth oriented and has bigger goals and dreams than me. And I remember you saying you know, good look.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like who has bigger goals and dreams than you, and I was like it's gotta be, you know, it's gotta be a thing and and it was so holy crap. And my point, to bring this full circle here, is you grow and you evolve and what you aspire to changes, and so who you look up to has to change and what you value about them has to change. And then you meet these people and you realize Okay, so you're just another person and that's okay, but you have strengths and weaknesses, and I've met so many of my heroes at this stage. Some of them have kept. It's been like holy crap, you're even better of a person than I thought. And other people are like, oh, wow, you're not as good of a person as I thought, as I hoped, but all of it was a figment of my imagination, because you only have the data you have.

Speaker 1:

And the last piece I'll share before that Kevin talk again is you listen to this show, whether on YouTube or Apple podcast or Spotify? You either resonate more with me or with Kev. That's okay. That's the way the world works. No one resonates equally with Kevin and myself. There are a lot of people who looked up to Kev in the beginning who now look more up to me. And then there's a lot of people who looked up to me who now are starting to resonate more with Kev, and that's that's part of the growth journey and I think, on some level, if you Originally resonate more with me, you probably need to resonate more with Kev, because that will round you out and help you be more holistic. And if you resonate more with Kev, you probably need some more of me, because I'm more of the.

Speaker 1:

I call it stem buff science, technology, engineering and mathematics, business and finance. Emilia thought that was hilarious. She's like that's the worst acronym I've ever heard in my entire life stem buff but that if you don't resonate with science, technology, engineering, mathematics, business and finance, you'd probably benefit from learning for me, and if you aren't focused on character, I benefited a ton from Kev. You know I was always focused on achievement and goals and success and that came very naturally to me. Kevin was always focused on character to his point earlier and so that came very naturally to him.

Speaker 1:

Relationships and character was Kevin's genius zone and for me it was success and achievement, and so we both now are more well-rounded men Because of each other, and hopefully that can happen for the men and women and anyone listening. I appreciate that very much.

Speaker 2:

Oh, of course, brother. It's interesting, damn it. There it is. I almost got it through an entire episode All right, I'm gonna so, just for the listeners. I'll stop calling it out because I'm sure it's probably getting annoying for you to.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to put my bag on you for the week.

Speaker 2:

It really is a theme for the week. It's interesting. I valued character, you valued impact and Mostly impact. I would say Make that and success. It makes sense and significance to make sense why it was the people. It was for you and the people it was for me. Yeah, yeah, I'm grateful. Last thing I'll say before we go, because I know we're we're deep in this one. I'm grateful you and I had as many mentors as we did, because we got to see, we get to experiment and I think that really helped us build our self-worth, moving on from people who didn't necessarily serve us at the level that we thought in the beginning and getting over the oh my goodness, you know, this person has a successful business, or this person is really good at podcasting, yeah the speaker or whatever it is.

Speaker 2:

I think that really helped us, because that's not why. Maybe that's why we got them, because they were successful and that attracted us to them, but that's not enough to keep somebody a mentor role.

Speaker 1:

Well, imagine, being at a point in your life where just meeting someone like that was like, oh my god, yeah. And then not only meeting, but befriending and working together and then eventually Realizing that the mentor that you would have done anything to get for lack of a better phrasing now you actually want to leave them. Yeah that's a. That's a self-worth journey in and of itself, right in, regardless of how many mistakes we've made in that I'm getting well, we have.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes you have to leave opportunities on the table to stay in aligned relationships, and that's what we've done. And so you no, you know you, whether you're doing physical work, just jump ahead and get to work. Ayudar, you know to bring this full circle. Who do you look up to? Why do you look up to them? What are the strengths they have, what are the weaknesses that come with it, and how do you take some of that and leave the stuff that's?

Speaker 2:

not aligned. I am super excited to say this because this is pretty much what we've built. It was the Hyper Conscious podcast, but we've built Next Level U on this. It's getting to know the wonderful, amazing community. That is something I said. This on a podcast recently.

Speaker 2:

I said early on I used to just give my cell phone number out and I would say let's hop on a FaceTime. I'm not gonna sell you anything because I don't have anything to sell you. I'm not a coach or anything. I just wanna talk to the community and I really think that has helped us get to know you. If you're watching or listening at a very deep level, create episodes that hopefully are valuable, that you resonate with. It's because we know you and we've gotten the opportunity to speak to you one-on-one or group coaching, book club, whatever it is. We haven't been doing as good of a job with that Full transparency, full disclosure. We've been dropping the ball on that. So what we're gonna do now is we are going to put Alan's Calendly link in the show notes.

Speaker 2:

This is a free 30 minute next level breakthrough session. It's not a sales call, it's not for any of that. It's just so Alan can get to know you. I would do it, but I am super focused on the podcast side of things and I wanna make sure I can actually show up, so right now it probably won't work for me, but Alan is going to take the lead on that. We have built this entire thing on knowing you and serving you and we wanna make sure that we're doing the best job possible. So if you have ever thought about reaching out on social media, joining something, this is a great opportunity to do it, completely behind the scenes. Again, it's not a sales call or anything like that. We just want to know you and add value to your life. You can show up and say, hey, I have a question about this. What would you say is a good choice for this? This going to who are your role models? If you feel like Alan could be a role model, reach out, because you never know what can happen.

Speaker 1:

And I would love to. It's one of my favorite things in the world is mentoring, role modeling, coaching, being in your corner. There's a lot of mistakes I've made in my life. There's a lot of learned. What I can say is that I believe in people, I believe in potential, I help other people believe in themselves, and I just hope to meet you. So all of those listener calls have been honestly amazing.

Speaker 1:

Kevin and I look back and we spend a lot of our time on a lot of different things invest, I should say, and that's one of the most valuable hands down. So we wanna do it again and so please book. We might not always be able to do this, but right now we can, so please book as soon as possible. My calendar is stretched very thin, but, again, I can't wait to meet you Also. Okay, I have a blog that comes out every other week. Click the link in the show notes. It'll take you to our website.

Speaker 1:

There's six blogs that are done right now. These blogs are taking some of the concepts that we talk about on the podcast and creating and how to. They're all how to. Every single blog starts with how to, how to blank, blank, blank, how to fail your way to success, how to streamline your dreams. How to? Because Kevin has helped me understand that the how to is where a lot of people get stuck. It's like, okay, go get a mentor, Well, how? So all of the blogs are always gonna be how to. Because I do think how to comes natural to me as an engineer and hopefully I can help it come naturally to you.

Speaker 2:

Tomorrow for episode number not there yet 1398, is fear a red light or a green light for you? One of my favorite sayings is feel the fear and do it anyway. I know it's not that simple. It might make a good social media post, but I don't know if it makes a good strategy for life. So we will dive into that tomorrow. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we do not have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

Find those aligned role models. Next subination Boom, it's Robert.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, it's so ready so on that one, the camera.

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