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#1398 - Is Fear A Red Light Or A Green Light For You?

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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In this episode, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros turn everything you know about fear on its head and show you how it can be your ultimate catalyst for success. They uncover the role of fear in our journeys and how overcoming it can be a stepping stone toward triumph. They talk about fear being the key to unlocking the upgraded versions of ourselves. It's about seeing the beauty in failing forward, in taking calculated risks that may lead to momentary setbacks but ultimately push us towards immeasurable growth. They discuss how courage is crucial in this process, pushing us to chase our passions without fearing judgment or failure.

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Show notes:
[0:00] Intro
[4:49] Your going to deal with fear, insecurity, and limiting beliefs
[13:24] Take a little risk
[16:59] Nicole shares how Kevin and the Next Level Podcast Solutions team help her with her podcast seamlessly and provide a fantastic experience. 
[20:25] Fear of judgment
[23:53] Have the courage to be who you are
[26:00] Failing forward transforms you
[31:31] Outro

Send a text to Kevin and Alan!

Speaker 1:

some people books, want it all, but I don't want nothing at all okay are you ready, sir?

Speaker 2:

you spent 16 hours on one teaser clip, sir.

Speaker 1:

Next level nation. Welcome back to another episode of next level university, where we teach you how to level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed our latest episode. It was episode number 1,000. I'm gonna need you to stop kicking that. 397, who are your role models today? For episode number 1,398 is fear a red light good, or a green or a green light for you? I just wanted to make sure you didn't spit your drink all over the place. Another friendly reminder slash gentle apology. Alan and I recording in person together. We're very giggly. We don't get to see each other that often, so when we do, we are, we're giggly. It's a good time.

Speaker 2:

It's a good time. It's hard work and it's purposeful and it's meaningful, but it's also fun.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's definitely hard work and long hard work. Why are we doing this episode? Why are we doing?

Speaker 2:

this episode. We are doing this episode because you yeah want to do a very unique thing.

Speaker 1:

I do so, as you have heard on this podcast, and things have changed a little bit actually. So there was an episode where I talked about a YouTube channel with Kyle Beats. I don't know his last name, his name is Kyle. He's a producer, he's produced for some pretty big artists and he has a YouTube channel where he shows behind the scenes of making beats and making songs. And when I found it, I was like this is it for me? This is amazing. So he does this thing on YouTube where he will say if you have been so, okay, this is common in the rap industry.

Speaker 1:

A producer will drop a beat on their social media and people will comment I would have killed that beat. So if I was the artist on that song, I would have crushed it. So eventually it got to the point where he said okay, you want me to drop a beat? No, eventually he got to the point where he said, okay, I am going to do videos where I let people jump on the beats that they said they would do really well with. And then he made a Spotify channel out of that and now it has, like I don't know, I might have like 600, 700,000 subscribers or so nice. So he did a post today actually that he was doing this and I think it's gonna be a pretty big YouTube video and he said just comment me if you want to be. What can I do for you? I'm just happy you're happy?

Speaker 2:

yeah well, you said post very interesting.

Speaker 1:

I'm very.

Speaker 2:

I feel fancy. Commented on a post.

Speaker 1:

I feel fancy. I'm at the boss's house, I'm trying to bring my best work do you know what I mean? You're doing a great job. I appreciate it up. So he put out a post, a post, and he said if you want this beat and you want to be potentially featured in the next video, just comment me underneath. And there's like 4,000 comments or something. Okay.

Speaker 1:

And I had this part of me that said I really want to do this. I feel like I could really do a good job and I don't, no matter what happens, it'll be fun. Then the limiting belief in me said there's, this is a giant waste of time. Why would you don't even spend the time to do this like, why would you bother filling this out? You got to put your name in email and stuff. And then you get an email and I said this isn't even worth it. And I thought to myself is this discomfort, is this uncertainty, is this fear a green light for me or is it a red light for me? And then I went through the process of filling it out and I told Alan how excited I was.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for a long time I've been saying feel the fear and do it anyway, but I also understand how challenging that can be, especially if you haven't done that before. You can't preach it, sir, and then not do it. Well, that's part of it. That's one of the reasons you lead by example. The other reason is I am very passionate about rapping and I feel what's the worst. I mean, the worst case scenario is I don't get an opportunity, or I spend five hours writing a song and nothing happens. Either way, it's gonna be a good experience.

Speaker 1:

But my question for you is, if you're watching or listening, for you, is fear a red light? Is it a green light? Is it a yield sign? What is it? What is it for you? Because at the end of the day, unless you are so incredibly blessed where everything you want to do comes easy to you, you're gonna end up facing fears. You're gonna have to deal with insecurity, you're gonna have to deal with limiting beliefs and positive syndrome. Most of that's gonna pop up. If your typical reaction is to run in the opposite direction. I don't know. I don't feel good about the future.

Speaker 1:

I know for me this all started from writing music, having a friend who rapped and him saying, hey, we should really rap together, and I remember I had the same thought. He's recorded music before and I was like there's no way this is gonna go well, I'm gonna do terrible. And I, we recorded and I did a really good job and he was blown away and he's like dude, you're way better than I am at this, so thank you. I appreciate that. Then we went down to Florida with Eddie Panero and he's written many songs and him and I rapped and you were there, you watched it and Eddie's like dude, you are really really good at this.

Speaker 1:

Like it took you 45 minutes to write this whole thing. I was like, oh, thank you, I don't know. I've never really done this with anybody else. So even to get to where I am today in terms of just recording a song and then putting it up on Instagram and not really worrying, I'm not really worrying. Anybody's gonna say anything negative I'm sure people will but that just come from me saying, oh, I'm a little bit afraid of this, I'm a little bit nervous. I don't really know if I identify as a rapper. I definitely don't identify as a. Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm a rapper. Around a group of rappers definitely feel like an imposter, for sure. But getting to even where I am today is based on saying I'm a little bit afraid. Let me use this as a green light and kind of see what happens we're gonna do an episode, I think soon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, episode 1400 is actually. Are you stuck in an old identity? I think this is also useful in this context where Kevin is basically saying I would never call myself a rapper in a room full of rappers, but there was a time when you wouldn't call yourself a podcaster in a room full of podcasters. And I'm not saying that you are aren't a rapper. What I'm saying is that when does that change? And, and more importantly, this idea of identity, self-concept it's.

Speaker 2:

We were in book club and I told Kevin about this story. I said we were basically celebrating Brandon. Brandon is the director of book club and and he does miles for mindset. You've, I've talked about it on the show and I'm so impressed by the whole thing. But he says, whether I walk it or I jog it or I Crawl it, I'm getting a mile in.

Speaker 2:

And the point is not to Run a six-minute mile or to reach some arbitrary Number to do a mile. Well, the goal is to keep the promise to myself. And miles for mindset, it's to get your head right. You know, obviously, if you've ever run or jogged or or been outdoors it's. It's very. It clears your head. There's the runners high. It's a great thing. So, anyways, we're celebrating Brandon in book club and he just surpassed 250 days in a row of a mile a day, and it wasn't always perfect, but he always got it done and I said, okay, well, isn't it interesting how, if I were to go to Brandon 250 days ago, and say hey, can you run a mile every day for 250 days, he would have been like reluctant to say yes.

Speaker 2:

But now if I say, hey, can you run 250 days in a row? He obviously would say yes because he's done it and it's this identity. And then I had everyone in book club. I said everyone, raise your hand. In book club there was like 12 of us. You know who here thinks they could run a mile, and I was actually shocked. There was a couple people in the room that didn't raise their hand and I understand now in hindsight. But and then I was like, wait a minute, amy L was in the room and Amy L is coming up on 300 plus days of consistent 30 minutes of exercise and it's usually walking or whatever. She's doing weight training. She's also doing yoga.

Speaker 2:

But in my head it was like of course you could and I said, okay, maybe run is the wrong term. What about like a light shuffled jog? And she's like well, how big is a mile? Because they use kilometers in Canada and I'm like I looked it up and it was 1.61 and they're like and then her and another member of book club were Private messaging of like oh, I've already walked a mile today and it's like I Realized that she's stuck in an old identity and we're gonna end up doing an episode about identity. But Kev could? He has two options right now. He could say I'm not a rapper and I'm never gonna be a rapper. Or you can say I May not feel like a rapper yet and I may not be a rapper yet, but I'm gonna go rap. And Then let's say you did actually get this like. Let's say you actually did win, like okay.

Speaker 2:

That is a possibility. I know it sounds crazy, but it is a possibility. I Bet you you'd identify as a rapper.

Speaker 1:

After that, the interesting thing is, I wouldn't. It's not that I don't think I could win.

Speaker 2:

What is it I?

Speaker 1:

Don't know, it's just the. You know, I don't really feel like a rapper Until somebody who identifies as a rapper tells me I am one. I think that's just kind of Just like I didn't identify as a podcaster until I started getting around podcasters that identified as podcasters. So it's almost like I need the and this is less than ever, but it's almost like I need the. I Need somebody to co-sign what I'm doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, no wonder why this has been so beneficial, because I'm often doing that definitely and I Wonder how many people need external validation to validate an identity.

Speaker 1:

I would say it's probably the. So I actually recorded. I've recorded two or three songs and when I say songs I don't mean a full song, usually it's I'm putting it on Instagram, so usually it's like a minute, maybe a minute and a half. I just take a piece of the song and I shared it on my story and I tagged him. His handles Kyle beats and he liked my story and I remember I told Tara's like well, that's pretty weird, that's interesting. Now, again, he might like everybody's story. That tags, I don't know, but that built a little bit of belief. Wrapping with Eddie Panero, that built belief. So well, he's a musician. He said I was really good for me.

Speaker 1:

I think it's always about finding the ceiling in the floor and the only way to really find the ceiling in the floor is to do it when you're afraid. Yeah, because if you don't do it, you'll assume you're the ceiling at the floor. If you do end up doing, you might realize, oh, I'm actually closer to the ceiling. And when I say ceiling and floor, I just mean we don't have to say best in the world, worse than the, we just have to for this thought. It's just skilled and not skilled.

Speaker 2:

I, I want to circle back for a second. I, I want to make this really land, because I said, amy, unless I'm missing something drastic, I'm certain you could shuffle, jog a mile at this point. You've exercised every day for 300 days. This is a past version of you that you're basing this off of and you could tell I kind of broke her brain for lack of better phrasing in that moment. She got a little red face and it's like she was opening up. I could tell there's always a moment in coaching and obviously book club I'm doing a little bit of coaching in this but there's always a moment in coaching where they're like open. They're like open to a new identity, a new possibility. And it was this moment I said if you were to try it if, that's a big if, because it's uncomfortable, right, if you were to try it, you would lock in that new identity, if you self-assign it. So imagine she actually tries and does a mile, and imagine she actually does it and it's easy. Who am I now? What does this mean? What else can I do? See how belief and identity. But if she lets the fear and the old identity run and this is the backstory she wouldn't mind me sharing. She used to struggle with an illness where every time she would exercise she'd get chronic pain. And she's still running that same identity, even though she has 300 days of proof that she can handle more. And so, unfortunately, is there a possibility she runs a mile and then she gets chronic pain again? Yes, but that's the risk, just like there's a chance.

Speaker 2:

Yesterday I was in the gym and I was doing heavier weight on the leg press than I thought I could. Quite frankly, I was trying to do 12 reps and I got to the point where it was like I'm gonna go for 15 and this is like a genuine injury risk. And I still tried it and I did it and it was okay. But I was definitely like okay, there's a definite possibility I re-injured my groin here. You gotta take a little bit of risk. I had this moment. I was sitting on the leg press and I was like, okay, I'm gonna go for this higher weight and I'm afraid, I'm afraid to get injured again, I'm afraid to go back, I'm afraid to injure my groin again, I'm afraid of the recovery, I'm afraid to all of it. And I said, but I need to do something. That's a little bit outside my comfort zone. I need to do something that is like a little bit beyond what I'm comfortable with. And I did and I ended up being okay and I was very focused on form for sure, and I made sure I was warmed up and all of that. But at the end of the day, that's where all the growth is. It's right outside what you're comfortable with. It's right outside.

Speaker 2:

Kevin has this picture that we used at Next Level Live of a person in a fence. Jesse created it, but it was your concept and outside the fence is fear. So someone's in a fence and they're fenced in, and outside of the fence is just fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. If you jump the fence, you realize that the fear was invalid because it was based on an old version. Yeah, maybe when you stood up to your mom when you were young, you got yelled at, and now you're not standing up to your intimate partner or your friend. But you're new. Now You're maybe you're 34, maybe you're 35, or maybe you're 45, or maybe you're 25. But you're an older, upgraded version, but you're treating yourself like the same. That's like treating. That's like going back to the old flip phone and wondering why it doesn't take 4K video. But now you have this brand new iPhone and it really can take 4K video in, zoom, in and out, but yet you're still acting like it's a flip phone.

Speaker 2:

It's there's a way to get new evidence, but it's never gonna happen unless you get uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

I had a similar moment at the gym where I was doing legs and I haven't been doing legs and we won't make this a full fitness podcast for you but I used to squat 315 fairly easily and I just hadn't done it. I hadn't done it in a long time because I wasn't keeping up with mobility and I just my knee was bothering me and I had a moment where I put it on the bar and I literally said, okay, I can do this. I know I can If there's definitely an injury at risk. And this is the question I asked myself. I said, if I did it knowing that I knew I could get injured, would I regret trying it? And then I said no, like if I was to blow my knee out and something was going horribly wrong. I know I'm very aware of the potential risks, I would still do it.

Speaker 2:

I would do it again.

Speaker 1:

What did you?

Speaker 2:

calculate the risk really was. What was the percent?

Speaker 1:

I thought it wasn't super high.

Speaker 2:

It was unlikely right. Most of it was in your head.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was mostly. This is something you haven't done in a minute, whereas if you put 515, it's just reckless.

Speaker 2:

I would get dead.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's. The interesting thing is, if I don't do this, next time an opportunity like this presents itself, I definitely won't do it Because I copped out. I don't wanna say copped out, I'm gonna do it. It's not that I'm really afraid, I just I do. I feel a little bit like an imposter, but I know people that and it's all subjective. I have a buddy who just started launching music on Spotify and I'm subjectively, I am better at the art of rapping than he is for sure, I'm certain of that, and he would admit the same thing. He's told me that behind the scenes and in front of the scenes. So that's something it's. I don't know. I wonder if I just require proof at a little bit of a deeper level. Less than ever. Less than ever why? Because I don't know what I. I don't really know what I am. I don't really know where my skills lie, because I've never. How do you?

Speaker 2:

know, you know that quote of like if you couldn't fail, what would you try? That never resonated with me at all. Yeah, it makes sense, because it's like a silly question in my opinion.

Speaker 1:

Like I do, I agree, I do think it's, I do think it's kind of.

Speaker 2:

It's not really practical.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because it's like, oh, then I would try to fly, yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2:

But again, I understand now why that that's a question that some people resonate with. Because this fear of failure. Jesse, Lizzie and Amy did a next level you NLU live recently in next level nation and I overheard some of it. I didn't watch the whole thing, but I watched some of it and Jesse was saying my favorite part about next level nation in this space at NLU is that Kevin and Alan lead by example when it comes to failing forward. They make failure okay, and if you are really, really scared of failure, I guess let me ask you this why, like what does it mean about you if you fail at this? I'm not as good as I thought.

Speaker 1:

Which you're afraid of. Why? Because I don't know how good I actually am.

Speaker 2:

So it's almost like you want to hold on to the identity that you might be good, more than finding out if you really are good.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I actually do, because for me, when I, when I say I was afraid, it's probably less fear than most. I Was through it pretty quickly. I had a very short moment and this this is probably too much information, but I was scrolling on the toilet. I throw it out there just because it it paints a picture of how I was doing it. And I was literally. I closed it. I saw, I saw the sign up, I opened it and said name email so we can email you the song. It was at first name, last name email and I I was like I'm not gonna do this.

Speaker 1:

This isn't it? And then I closed it and I was like you gotta do this, you absolutely have to do this. And then I opened it back up and did it. So it was a couple. Why do you have to do this? Layers as many layers. His audience is probably actually into self-improvement, because he is into self-improvement. He's not. He's a very positive Guy who's always talking about mindset and he always shares the behind-the-scenes of his failures and how long it took him to succeed. And he's Consistent. He talks about the compound effect.

Speaker 1:

So I think there's also a pressure part of me that's like imagine if this did work, this could be really good for NLU and we could help way more people and this might be an up level for NLU. So I think there's an extra level of yeah, is the opportunity?

Speaker 2:

is the perceived opportunity Great enough to where it overcomes the fears.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna do it and I do feel like I will do a good job. Do I think anything will come of it? I don't know. But worst-case scenario, nothing comes of it. I'm okay. Why would old Kevin not do it? Fear judgment Took me along. It took me. I've been writing music since I was 15 years old. I remember I bought a microphone long before I dreamed of being a podcaster and I would rap. I would write raps and and I would never tell anybody, I would never release them because I was afraid I didn't know.

Speaker 1:

You know, there's that stereotype like oh, the white rapper from the small town. Like, oh, everybody knows a rapper that they went to high school with. And then I remember I recorded a song and I said that in the beginning, like I'm that kid from high school, I'm that kid that you're talking about when you say like, oh, yeah, I remember that kid from. So I just tried to own it. But there's always a little bit of fear that people are gonna say this is garbage. I, I just draw, I did a little like a mini song and I put it on my story and I was like singing a little bit and I had a Moment of like, oh, my god, I might hear something about this, because I don't claim to be a singer but then I just did it and said well, what's the worst that can happen?

Speaker 1:

What the worst that can happen is 50 people reach out and say I can't sing. It's like no, I, yeah, I understand, trust me, I don't claim to be able to, I just it's, that's the I and I don't want to interrupt you. No, no, you're good, that's the. The thing that I've tried to get across a lot is if you enjoy something, the benefits of you doing that thing are far beyond any feedback you get.

Speaker 1:

I love rapping. I love it. I just enjoy it so much. It's different. It takes me to a different place. It's just a different side of me. If somebody wants to crap on you for doing something you love, that's. It's just a sad place for them to be this is why near-death experiences.

Speaker 2:

So I was at a Memorial service for my uncle Joe this past Saturday, and anytime I've ever been at a memorial service, it's always such a Challenging but also beautiful reminder that In in the end, you're gonna be grateful that you had the courage to do the things you want to do, and I Think that Steve Jobs has a quote in his Stanford address that I love, which is you are already naked, like in the face of death. There everything else slips away fear of judgment, fear of embarrassment, fear of failure all that stuff is nothing in comparison. And so for him, he had pancreatic cancer and Obviously pancreatic cancer ended up taking him, but in his Stanford address he was talking about how that freed him in many ways, because when you've and after my car accident same deal you with suicidal ideation, there's something powerful to be said about. When you have that perspective of like, am I going to regret staying small the rest of my life, never speaking up, never? And I think at the end of the day and I want this to really land there's a lot of people from my past that don't like me, they judge me, they talk behind my back. I've literally witnessed some of it. Some of my friends have told me like I've been definitely definitely like dragged through the mud for lack of better phrasing. But I know, deep down, at the end of the day it's like at least I had the courage to do something, at least I had the courage to be somebody, to be who I am to.

Speaker 2:

You know, there's 1400 episodes, or almost 1400 episodes, of us putting our heart into public and I think that deep down, everyone has respect for that, even if they don't agree with everything you say or everything you are, everything you do, and I don't know it's, it's you either get to live your dreams and live your passions and live your purpose, live your calling, or you or you stay silent because you're afraid of judgment and no matter what speech you give, I've had speeches that I crushed, that people said that was the best thing I've ever seen. That was amazing, you're a world-class speaker. I've literally had someone say you're a world-class speaker and I've also been to the point where I'm not sure we will ever get invited back here. I'm actually certain we won't, at least not for this training and the walk of shame of Kevin and I literally walking through the audience surprising that we're not getting food thrown at us and I've had everything in between and so at the end of the day, that's I'm grateful that we tried.

Speaker 2:

You know, I would rather try and fail a thousand times than not try at all, and that's that's what was very clear to me after my car accident at 26 when I had that brush with mortality, and so hopefully that can free you. I mean, you can't embarrass yourself more than we have on this microphone it. I mean we have episodes that are just not good. We have every audio mistake, video mistake. We are 1400 episodes in and Kevin's at my place because our audio is still a challenge, I don't know. I just I'm upset. If there's permission that we can give you to go fail like I hope that that's something that you take from this, because we've met the best of the best and the and and people at the very start of every journey speaking, podcasting, personal development, wealth, business, like all over the world. At the end of the day, what's gonna matter is that you chase your passions and that you spoke what you believe and lived what you believe and grew along the way. And you know, I think, that failing forward, it's got to be the best, the best thing in the entire world, even though it it does hurt. It does hurt, but that's what transforms you. I don't think you can transform from easy workouts. I don't think you can transform from non courageous fear chasing. I don't think you can.

Speaker 2:

It's not fear chasing unless you're afraid. There's no, there's nothing to. There's there's nothing to. When you lift weights, there's, there's resistance, there's something to work against, and there's always risk of injury. There's always risk of looking bad. There's always risk of sounding stupid or asking a dumb question. There's never not gonna be risk. Just, you just got to use it to transform you and grow. There's never. You know every shot you've ever taken. There's a chance you miss, but I don't know it. You can spend your whole life trying to stay safe and avoid judgment. I just there's just no way you're gonna get judged anyway. You know that's our next episode. You're just, is it? You're judging yourself by staying small and not having courage. So I remember living small. For sure I was the worst, and this is better, even though it's more challenging.

Speaker 1:

I cannot imagine a life without fear. Exists no way. So that really.

Speaker 2:

Only a life of ego right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, but there's fear underneath that. Right, that would be my next level nugget is I do not. I cannot imagine a world or a life in which fear ceases to exist, so you really have to understand what your relationship is with it. One of the reasons and again, there's layers to everything One of the reasons I want to do this is because I do. I see, I don't know what, I don't know who, I don't know when, I don't know where, I don't know any of that, but I'm going to be, I'm going to make a rap album. Eventually it's gonna happen. I just I don't know when, and hopefully we'll be at the level of success where I can attract some people that I look up to. If I'm gonna be afraid, then for sure, of course I am, but if I don't do this, I'm not gonna have the level of fear chasing.

Speaker 1:

Two things before we go Recent and relevant proof. We've talked about this a lot, but you're going to look for the most recent proof you have. When's the last time I wrote a song? And relevant proof When's the last time I got hate or love? I got love? Somebody reached out to me and said wow, the lyrics to this are amazing. Thank you, I appreciate that very much. If you're listening, you're the best and I get a lot of love for the stuff that I write, so it's recent and relevant proof for me. Maybe that'll resonate with you. That's a version two of the next level nugget. What is yours before we go?

Speaker 2:

Next level nugget what's your relationship with failure? If you, if your relationship with fear and failure is keeping you small, check in on that and try to face your fear and your failures. Just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit. We talk about one of the, amy Diaz, and how she was so scared to talk to a stranger at the mall and by the end of that day, with Kev, she was riding zoo animals around the mall, not afraid of judgment at all.

Speaker 2:

So, if that's possible, then what else is? And at the end of the day, yeah, the next level nugget is fail forward for sure. Fail forward, it's all good, you're gonna be grateful you did, even when it hurts. Ultimately, you'll be grateful you did. Even though in the moment you definitely won't.

Speaker 1:

If you are looking for a safe place to fail forward, please join our private Facebook group, next Level Nation 701 member strong. I believe as of today, link will be in the show.

Speaker 2:

If your mental health is strong enough, failure and people making fun of you and judgment isn't gonna affect you nearly as much. I remember when I was in high school, I got made fun of and bullied and you know, it affected me so much. And now when that stuff happens, it's kind of like ah, whatever, I'm proud of me, so I don't really care if you are, you know, whereas back then I needed that so much, so my mental health wasn't very good back then, and so we have a meetup August 10th 2023, at 6pm Eastern Standard Time. I don't know why I said 2023.

Speaker 1:

This year it is this year.

Speaker 2:

Is your mental health hindering your growth? The answer is yes, and if you improve your mental health, you're gonna improve your growth. If you improve your growth, you're gonna improve your results. I've had a therapist now for probably coming up on six months to eight months.

Speaker 1:

I don't know exactly when, but it's been yeah, hashtag time.

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It's been super, super helpful to work on my mental health, so we're gonna talk about that and I hope you join us. The link to the landing page will be in the show notes and, as always, it's free.

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You can participate. You don't have to participate, you don't have to have your camera on, your microphone on. It could be a fly on the wall Whatever is most comfortable for you. That is our goal to create a safe environment.

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Tomorrow, for episode number 1399, we are talking a little bit about judgment. Don't judge a book by its cover. I had a very interesting and I'm nervous, I guess, anxious, to share this because I don't know, I'm afraid, how it's gonna come off, but for the audience, for value, that's my goal. I had an interesting thing happen this weekend that really shaped my perspective on this, so I will share that tomorrow. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and NLU. We do not have fans, we have family. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.

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If Kevin can rap with the rappers, what might you be able to do? Wow, next, sublimation, strong word.

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Nice, nice, nice.

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