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#1402 - 3 Reasons Many Early Friendships Don’t Last

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Some childhood friendships don't stand the test of time. Those friendships that didn't last were simply laying the foundation for the true, lifelong ones based on your core values, beliefs, and aspirations you form as you grow older. In this insightful episode, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros shed light on the importance of letting go of those who don't propel you toward your aims and embracing those who encourage your growth. They touch on the essence of constructing relationships on the bedrock of vulnerability and authenticity, which begins with being truthful with yourself and those around you. They underscore the importance of creating a haven for personal growth and the transformative effect of having the right people around.

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Show notes:
[3:08] Reasons why people are in our lives
[9:17] Reflect on your past  relationships
[14:59] John talks about his phenomenal experience working with Kevin and the Next Level Podcast Solutions team
[17:07] Give yourself permission to let go
[21:43] Some friends make fun of each other 
[26:44] BIRGing
[30:46] Outro

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Speaker 1:

Here we go, here we go, here we go. Would you keep it down with those mouth noises? You're making a lot of noises with your mouth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it wasn't that bad, was it?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, for some reason you allow mouth.

Speaker 2:

I know that?

Speaker 1:

what is it about it? I don't know, that's weird. Yes, sir, some people do, some people don't. You know, you slide back a little bit, yeah, I feel like because we're not where you were closer. Okay, it's gonna be, I need to be what this?

Speaker 2:

See, I need to be Little bit.

Speaker 1:

I can't move any closer. This is the last time we're doing this. No, it's not.

Speaker 2:

This is not, it's never. Nothing's ever. The last time you don't know that I do.

Speaker 1:

Kid thinks he knows you'll order some new piece of equipment. Hello, hello, hello, that's probably the best thing ever, and it won't work. I'll have to come down here, waste my half my day driving, sitting in traffic.

Speaker 2:

That's probably pretty good, I like to talk with my hands. I need that. This is good. I Am trying to be an excellent orator Orator.

Speaker 1:

Cheers, cheers man. Episode 4-0 14-0 2.

Speaker 1:

Now it doesn't matter until we hit 1500. Then it won't matter ever again till 2000. Time and ready. Next level nation, welcome back to another episode of next level University, where we teach you how to level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed our latest episode. It was episode number 1401. Are you stuck in an old identity today for episode number 1402? Three reasons many early friendships don't last. I was getting ready for bed last night and I was laying in bed and I was thinking about this episode and I was thinking of when I was younger. Two of my cloak, my best friends, literally lived within two minutes of me. One friend I Met at the bus stop when we were in I don't know, maybe like second grade or third grade. The other friend so friend one and I we used to ride our scooters down this big hill.

Speaker 2:

I remember the scooters the razor, the razor, scooters, razor scooters were the most legit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I was pretty. I was a pretty, you know, whatever, I was pretty badass same.

Speaker 2:

So we'd go. Yeah, did you ever lower the handlebars all the way?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Cuz these were like those fold-up ones and sit on it, and sit on it.

Speaker 1:

Of course, Of course Did you have a wheelie bar. I did yeah same.

Speaker 2:

I did, did you have light up.

Speaker 1:

Did you have light up wheelie bar? No, yeah, you ain't shit.

Speaker 2:

And that's the episode.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna be right Ellen on his lack of scooter hygiene. I used to cook down the. We used to cook, we actually used to cook down the biggest hill in town, cory Hill. Cory Hill, which is where I live now. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know if you want to say that.

Speaker 2:

No, no, it's okay. I mean there's a lot of houses on Cory. Hill so it's the big one, the biggest hell.

Speaker 1:

Yes, okay, we used to go cook it down the sill and there was this family that had a son and a daughter and they used to be jumping on a trampoline in their backyard and one day the dad said hey, you guys wanna come jump on the tramp? And we were like what are you even talking about? What do you mean? What is this tramp you're talking about? He's like the trampoline over there. So we ended up going and jumping on the trampoline. Boom. Now we're the three best friends anybody could ever have.

Speaker 1:

So I was thinking of this the other day because I was on a podcast and we were talking about friends and if you listen to this, you know I'm very big on asking yourself the hard question are the people in my life the best from my past or the best from my future? And when I was on this podcast, I said you have to understand. A lot of the people that are in our lives are in our lives for one of these three reasons. And this just all popped into my head, so I figured we'll do an episode on it. One, geography as I just mentioned, the two best friends I had growing up were the two friends closest to me Georoglifely Georoglifely. For those who used to listen to the hyper conscious podcast, that was the intro. It is maybe the worst intro ever of all time for a podcast.

Speaker 2:

What episode should people listen to if they want to hear the old, terrible intro? I don't really know.

Speaker 1:

Maybe 35 or something? No, I don't even think we. I would say probably go 60. Probably be safe with 60. Okay, so go check that out.

Speaker 2:

But only listen to the intro. Yeah, yeah, don't listen to any of the rest of it.

Speaker 1:

The intro is bad too. Everything's bad. One geography, so you live close to these people. Two convenience they're the easiest people around you. They're the only options, maybe. Three coincidence I ran into my first best friend at the bus stop. That was a coincidence, I didn't really plan it. We saw each other every day for long enough and I'm sure we said, oh, do you play baseball? Do you like football? Do you ride bikes? And then that ended up creating a budding friendship.

Speaker 1:

The opposite of that is core values, core beliefs and core aspirations. One of the or three of the reasons many early friendships don't last is because they weren't based on what you actually value. They're just based on where you live, or they're based on the fact that you don't want to be bored, or the fact that there weren't that many options, I think now more than ever, as you grow up. So if you're listening to this and you're younger, I don't want to say you should expect to lose friends as you get older, but this is the reason why, and unless you have more in common than just where you grew up or what you used to do when you were kids, odds are the friendship is going to change in some way, shape or form and it goes back to the core values, core beliefs and core aspirations. So that really is the thought in this episode.

Speaker 1:

I didn't connect the dots on this until I was on this podcast and then I thought about it and said, wow, if I lived in a different neighborhood, I most likely never would have known those kids. Definitely we wouldn't have been as good friends. And this is the other thing. When I made friends with them and then I made friends with their friends, they all lived pretty close. They were just a walk on the other side of where they lived.

Speaker 2:

So that, yeah, that just proves the concept here and so, for everyone listening, I hope that you're thinking about your childhood. I hope you're thinking about how many of your friends were geography, how many of your friends were convenience, and then how many of your friends really were aligned, based on mutual goals, mutual core values, mutual core beliefs. I'm gonna name the first names of my friends growing up, only first names Keith, kiki, mark, ian, david, chris, erica, katie all neighbors those were all my neighbors. We had a big neighborhood. Honestly, we had a huge neighborhood growing up and I was friends with. We used to go to the bus stop as well and everyone would be waiting for school and some of us would wrestle. We used to play Star Wars, so we would play pretend lightsabers and it was sticks. We didn't have actual lightsabers.

Speaker 2:

And then eventually we went and bought lightsabers. Did you win?

Speaker 1:

Were there winners, or was it just a?

Speaker 2:

It was. We have choreographed some excellent lightsaber battles for the Star Wars fans out there. I do have a lightsaber battle with Kiki that I to this day remember and have memorized. It's actually quite good. But anyways, the point here is, most of my friends growing up were geography.

Speaker 2:

Now, one thing that I will say is that once the core values started to take hold I'll give one example I used to play Halo 1. So for those of you who remember Halo, I'm sure you've heard of it. It's a very, very famous video game. But all of my closest friends in high school were Halo players. I was a semi-pro Halo gamer. I went to tournaments and blah, blah, blah. So and at one point I was one of the top players in the world and all of my friends loved Halo. Is that because everyone loves Halo? No, that's because I loved Halo, and naturally, the law of attraction attracts other people who have similar passions.

Speaker 2:

You know, if you love personal development books, you're going to most likely join Book Club, or you're far more likely, I should say, because in Book Club, what do we do? It's a bunch of other people who are also super passionate about personal development books. You know, if you listen to this podcast. You're obviously into personal growth, holistic self-improvement for dream chasers. You obviously identify as someone who has dreams, or at least wants to. All of this is based on mutual passions, mutual core values, mutual goals, mutual core aspirations, mutual core beliefs. And I wonder to myself we take ourselves through so much mud and so much turmoil and so much challenge when it comes to losing friends. I know I did. I still to this day have so much junk, both positive, amazing nostalgic emotions and then some negative emotions too, when it comes to all of my past friendships. And it was after 26 that I just went all in and decided you know what personal growth is my life? Maximizing my own unique potential and helping others do the same is what my life is going to be about. And anyone who wants to in on that will be aligned and anyone who doesn't won't. And that was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made. And as I've grown and developed and learned and been in a bunch of different rooms with a bunch of different people from a bunch of different countries, I just realized that that is the one through line of every relationship in my life, including my relationship with Emilia. She's more into personal growth than any human I've ever met in my entire life.

Speaker 2:

So, whatever it is for you, reflect back, look at oh, maybe I beat myself up about that relationship ending or that relationship having a falling out, when in reality maybe it wasn't that aligned. Not that it wasn't a wonderful person, not that you didn't have good times. I had tons of good times with tons of great people. Seriously, it was a absolute blast and sometimes it was mayhem. But I still have those memories and just because it was aligned back then doesn't mean it's aligned now. And am I still beating myself up for the fact that I wish it would have worked or I wish it would have blah, blah, blah. Free yourself from this responsibility to make things aligned. That might never have been. Or maybe they were when you lived next door. Maybe they were when you both loved Star Wars and went to the movies together and rode your bikes together and played scooters together Played scooters.

Speaker 1:

I was saying about a ride. Riding scooters is pretty serious.

Speaker 2:

Did you ever do inline skating?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think I tried it for a show. I went through I did skateboarding, inline skating, scootering, and then I was big into BMX for a while, oh, you did BMX.

Speaker 2:

I never did the BMX, I did inline. I did skateboard. Mark had a half pipe One of my friends is growing up had a half pipe and then snowboarding, skiing and snowboarding. All my friends snowboard. All my friends scootered. All my friends rode bikes. All my friends loved these things. Are we friends because we all love these things? Or, more importantly, kev, did they all love those things because one of us loved those things and we all influence each other? And that's what you learn as you get older. Kevin and I are 33, 34 years old now and it's like very clear looking back oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not on us. We just don't BMX bike anymore. We don't skateboard anymore, we don't. You know, I still play basketball with Emilia, but all my friends in college loved basketball. I used to play intramural basketball. I used to play pickup basketball every other weekend. Right, it's just you like attracts, like. It's important.

Speaker 1:

I told this a while ago. I was in the. I was at the gym in the boxing room and I was listening to an artist by the name of Mike and this guy came in he was using he was going to use the boxing room with me. He's like, dude, I love this song. I said, oh, you like Mike? And he's like, yeah, man, I have a tattoo of Mike. And I was like, oh, wow, that's okay, awesome, this guy is super nice, just an awesome, awesome person. Loves mixed martial arts, loves lifting heavy, probably like similar music. That is somebody I can definitely be friends with based on the core. I won't, that's not really any of those things, I guess it's just core.

Speaker 2:

Core values.

Speaker 1:

I guess core interest, core interest. Core interest, that's somebody that I can definitely make friends with core passions or podcasters.

Speaker 1:

There's a reason we're friends with podcasters because we have the same understanding. When I played baseball, I got new friends. I still had some a lot of the older friends I had too, but I got new friends and it was based on the fact that I spent way more time with them. We valued baseball, we were growing up together, we were dating, we were learning things about life and then, after high school, that's pretty much the people I spent time with, and as we got older and as things changed, some of those people got closer to me. Other people unfortunately fell away and I reallocated time, but that kind of just is par for the course.

Speaker 2:

I saw on Facebook an old friend of mine who I used to see all the time. Wonderful person. I actually think she listens to the show, by the way. Hello.

Speaker 2:

Hello, and I saw I saw hello to this person Although she wouldn't be able to know that it was her, although she might after this and I saw her With an ex-girlfriend of mine and they were really close back when we were dating and I saw her profile picture was with her recently and I was like, oh, they spent the fourth of July together. Cool, you know, I can't believe. They're still friends. That's awesome. And I had that moment of they must have something still in common that they are still connecting over you know, and and my question for you, kev, but also for every listener that is watching or listening to this what's your take, kev, on? Because I think in the past I I was like, oh, that relationship didn't work out Intimate relationship but in hindsight, isn't it very clear that they're not supposed to work out hundred percent? Yeah, what's?

Speaker 1:

your take on that. That's one of the reasons I talk as much as I do when it comes to relationships, because it's this episode on a nutshell just because you used to be friends does not mean you were friends for the right reasons, and if you don't understand the reasons, it's really hard to actually understand the friendship. What if?

Speaker 2:

you're making long-term friendships based on short-term passions.

Speaker 1:

I told you this recently. I said there was somebody that we know, we mutually know, alan, I know this person and this group of people and I said they, they just posted that they were in I don't know Mexico or Cabo or somewhere, somewhere really nice I think Cabo was in Mexico, some tropical place, and they were all hanging out by the pool having drinks and I said there was a little piece of me that was was jealous for a couple seconds of that would be really cool. They're really cool to do that, but I don't really have anybody in my life that would want to do that and I'm okay with that. It was a very quick moment of that. It's not like that's really what I want to do. That was by design.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah it was. It was to a couple things one, to make me grateful for what we have, and also, I Think that's just a nostalgia thing of well, that would be, that would be interesting if life was that way, and nothing against that, but it made me think about it.

Speaker 2:

I used to have that.

Speaker 1:

Hmm.

Speaker 2:

I had a group of people that we grew up with that I was friends with since I was a kid and that whole group still spends time together. Yeah, and I remember my ex-girlfriend. She was so jealous of that. I remember she said, alan, I I don't have friends like you do. I wish that I still had like that core group of friends, that we were friends as kids and I Tried to tell her back then but I didn't understand this. Back then I tried to say it's not what you think, it's not, it's not all it's caught up to be. Now, don't get me wrong, I enjoy it and these people, would, you know, do anything for me. Quote-unquote because we all grew up together. But honestly, I got to say this and I'll be the first of this friend group maybe to say it but we're all. We were all holding each other back for sure, because we're to the last episode old identity. I mean, come on, we played Halo together in your basement. Like we're definitely overly judging each other.

Speaker 2:

I remember one of my new friends came into my life and I want all the listeners thinking about their childhood as well. One of my new friends came into my life and he said you have got to get away from them. You know you have. You are being like because they were all very a lot of them were very unkind when I decided to carve a Different path. And I get it right. Why aren't you spending time with us anymore? Why don't you care about us anymore? But the conclusions they drew where I didn't care about them anymore, which isn't true. I just cared more about this other path I was taking and I think for our listeners, maybe give yourself the permission slip to. I wish that I had given myself the permission slip to kind of just let go of that, because I had a moment recently, kev, where I look back at some of those old photos and it's like oh yeah, there's no way.

Speaker 2:

There's no way you could have achieved your dreams and been in that friend group. It's just not a thing. I it's really not and I, I, I wish I could articulate this better, I don't know if I can. It's so clear in hindsight that you can't achieve this result with that group of people. Can you try to Articulate why that is? I don't know if I'm good at like explaining why?

Speaker 1:

that is why you can't accomplish certain things with certain people.

Speaker 2:

Your friend group is Absolutely 100% the Determining factor of a lot of your success or failure in life. In any arena health, wealth and love Self-belief is number one hands down, because without that you really can't achieve much. After that it's entirely your friend group and and in my old friend group while they're wonderful people and they have all reached a certain level of success, it's very, very clear that a lot of the path that we've carved, you and I there's no way we could have also been a meshed in all that yeah, what's your take?

Speaker 1:

because, Depending on what you're doing, everything is drastically different than what other people are doing. It's it's just the.

Speaker 2:

Well, you've always been bodybuilding when no one else was and doing fitness shows before anyone else in your friend group.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I I'm realizing more than ever. I don't really. I've never really been that afraid of being alone. So I I tried not to delude myself into saying I'd rather be around people that aren't great for me rather than being Just by myself. What do you mean saying it? I would rather be alone and be surrounded by people that aren't that good for me. I would just rather be alone. Because I don't want to delude myself into thinking is that because of your?

Speaker 2:

fear of failure. Like you, you were kind of like well, I'm not gonna be able to succeed. I don't think consciously.

Speaker 1:

No, I just think it was. If I think about it logically, if you don't add that much to my life, I'm probably better off without you. If you add a level three and you subtract a level seven, that's a negative four. I'm better off with zero, I'm just Very logical. I think that's kind of always how I've been when it comes to that. I don't know where that comes from, but just Alan's point If you just said we talked a lot of trash about each other, we made fun of each other, that was kind of the way the friendships were built. That's going to be very, very challenging later on for somebody to get hyper-mature and then be super vulnerable. None of those relationships were built on vulnerability.

Speaker 2:

That's a fact. That's got to be one of the reasons why it's so clearly never could have stayed.

Speaker 1:

That is one of my favorite quotes is the level of vulnerability within a relationship is usually connected to the level of quality of the relationship.

Speaker 2:

I really believe that you and I have a very vulnerable relationship, because you can't be authentic without vulnerability. It's almost like if you grow and change and evolve and this will be a stupid, simple example. But I remember one of my friends came to me. He's like, dude, you hate skim milk. I remember being like no, no, I did when we were kids. He's like you hate skim milk. Come on, be real. This is just fitness thing. You really hate skim milk. It's like no, I actually love the fact that there's nine grams of protein per cup and no fat in all carbs. It's perfect. I love skim milk. Now, do I love the taste of skim milk? Maybe not right, but it's that old identity right? It's like our friendship was somewhat built on something that's no longer true for us.

Speaker 1:

Well, it was built on tearing each other down in a way, in some cases, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Imagine okay, that's the pushback you get for drinking skim milk, never mind if you want to quit your job and go all in on your dreams. That's why a lot of our friendships going back to the identity thing, the identity that you used to have is often the identity that people remember you, as it's very hard for them to see you in a new light. I think that's why it's easier to get new friends, because they see you as the person that you are today, not the person that used to be.

Speaker 2:

Go on. I think I just had a breakthrough, and maybe this is obvious to all of our listeners. If it's not, this will be a breakthrough for you as well. Particularly and again I'll speak from my own experience as a man Men tend to be extremely young. Boys tend to be extremely making fun of each other. A lot of my friend group growing up we made fun of each other a lot. I wish that I hadn't participated so much in that, because it creates no psychological safety to actually change. You get so stuck in. Oh well, if I do this, that person's going to make fun of me. I had this moment that was about skim milk.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's what I'm saying One of the least important things ever I remember.

Speaker 2:

I'll show this story very briefly to start interrupting Kevin. I had this friend who was super in shape. Shout out to Nate. Nate was in great shape. I brought him into my huge friend group at one point. I threw these parties and barbecues and bonfires Lots of bonfires on the lake. It was awesome. He brought chicken breasts to cook on the grill. He was the only one in my friend group that was at that level of fitness. He got made fun of by my friend who brings grilled chicken to the party. I remember thinking to myself that's why he's in better shape than all of you. I would bring grilled chicken to a party for sure If he actually cared about what they think he'd be in so much trouble. You know what I mean. You have to free yourself from that.

Speaker 2:

If you got made fun of growing up, I don't think I realized until recently how much that affected me. I was so made. Emilia said you were so made fun of. Even your own family makes fun of you and then you join them in making fun of you. You're like 10 times more than they are.

Speaker 2:

I never really let that in until I started realizing that in all my clients I see this everywhere. Now I'll think of this one friend anonymously, who that whole friend group is kind of mean to you and I always said to him like dude, you could easily take him. You should like put him down at some point. Seriously, like you're like jacked, you're good looking, like that's why they make fun of you. I used to say this At the end of the day, if you're being made fun of, first of all fuck them. Seriously, like I'm swearing in this episode. So, production team, please make the six plus it. I'm serious. If you are being bullied, you have got to get out of it. You would. That will hold you down more than I can possibly articulate.

Speaker 1:

Expectations of others. This is my next level. The expectations of others are very, very, very dangerous. If it's more important for you to stay in alignment with the expectations and not create the reality that you desire, that really is what it is. The expectations of others is. What is this person going to say if I do this? I remember I had somebody say so when my wife and I, for Taren, we reconnected and we started dating. I took her to New Hampshire, I took her on a trip within a month of us reconnecting and somebody gave me crap for it. They're like you just reconnected, you've got to take it easy. And I said no, I know, I know what I'm doing. Like, trust me, everything's going to be fine. I'm going to marry this woman. Trust me, I know what I'm doing here. Trust me, I got this, I'm good. But there was a little piece of me that was afraid that I was going to get that pushback, that the expectation is that you won't do that. So therefore, when you do that, I have to give you some sort of feedback. I really think that's all it is.

Speaker 1:

It's almost like you're supposed to go on this street, but you went on a different street. Why did you go on that street. You're supposed to go on this street. Everybody goes on this street. We always used to go on this street and we go on this street. Why are you on the other street? I don't want to go on that street anymore and you know what. If you do, that's for you. There's nothing wrong with that, but I would never crap on you for wanting to do that. Why are you crapping on me? Because you're doing something different? Yeah, but I don't think we make fun of people?

Speaker 2:

No, but I grew out of that, I used to when I was young, young, young. But you've also been bullied, you know what it's like.

Speaker 1:

It's the worst. Yeah, it's the worst when you get bullied. I've been bullied and I've definitely bullied. I've talked about that in the past. Not a ton, but more than I am proud of for sure.

Speaker 2:

That's got to be one of the number one things that hold people back. I mean, it is Fear of judgment. 100% your fan bam, I'm telling you. I have yet to meet a client who doesn't have this what we're talking about right now. I'm telling you I have, yet You're probably the most free of it as anyone I've ever met.

Speaker 1:

My circle is very small, that's by design.

Speaker 2:

And I think you grew up without a ton of what I would call tendrils. It's like, okay, I don't think you were necessarily. We talked about this in the last episode. I don't think you were necessarily. I don't think other people had a ton of expectations for you, and so I think because of that, I was on Book Club and shout out to Tiff. Tiff on Book Club. She was talking about how Dr Lawyer engineer failure and she's an engineer like me.

Speaker 2:

We were talking openly about like you know, I think our parents were unconsciously wanting to be seen as successful through their kids and how much that like got on us. And then we did a poll in Book Club I love Book Club where we got how many people you. You brought this psychological tendency to me. I've studied all the cognitive biases and Kevin brought up these two that I've never heard of.

Speaker 2:

And then I brought them to Emilia and she was like, how did he find these? I've been studying cognitive biases my whole life. I watched weird stuff on you, Apparently. So it's called burgeoning, basking in reflected glory, which essentially means when you're more successful, people want to be around you. You know, oh, our team one it's not your team, you just live in that town, that kind of thing. It's called burgeoning and again, nothing wrong with that. But parents that are burgeoning. I put a poll in Book Club how many people think their parents were basking in your success and how much that can control a child, Because they're basically only getting approval unconsciously when they are what the parent wants them to be. I had that for sure. And again, a lot of this is unconscious, but I don't think you had a ton of that.

Speaker 1:

I know one of the best things that ever happened is I didn't have high expectations because I wasn't forced to go to college. I wasn't forced to do anything I didn't really want to do and it gave me a lot of opportunities to take many risks that other people didn't have the privilege to take. But I do remember my mom used to take my car when I started making money. My mom would take my car to work at a nice Mustang back in the day and then I ended up buying a stick shift and she couldn't drive it. She was very sad, but I'm sure that was basking. That was a little bit basking and reflective right now. So good episode it was. You said the F word.

Speaker 2:

I had to. I hate bullies, hate bowler, so much I respect it. That's the one thing that Be whatever you want to be, except for when you are against other people being what they want to be. That's like a big thing for me.

Speaker 1:

This is a good episode. It was strong work you as well. Next level nation. As we mentioned in the previous episode, alan is doing free listener calls. I've been calling them Next level breakthrough sessions. I am him, you are him. You are Jeff.

Speaker 1:

If you are interested in that, maybe you've been listening to this show for a long time, maybe you haven't, maybe you just tuned in and you're thinking I'd like to hop on the phone, on the zoom machine with one, alan Lazarus. Sorry to disappoint you, I won't be there. Alan will be there. Yeah, I know, I know, I know it's not the best, but it could be worse. It's a free 30-minute call. It's not a sales call. It's just let's get to know you and you can bring questions, comments, concerns. Maybe you're trying to make a decision, maybe you feel stuck somewhere. Alan can add value. The link to his calendar will be in the show Notes. While I was here, three people booked, so the more the merrier. I cannot promise this will be around forever. In fact, I'm certain it won't. Just because it's gonna be more challenging to do this as we become more successful. But again, at the end of the day, the reason we are successful is because of you, if you are listening.

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Shout out to one of our listeners. I already shouted her out once Tiff. She has officially Started to embark on her dreams, because her corporate career is what she has articulated as not aligned. And I say only first name for a reason. But she is a huge part of next-level nation, and so if you want to be in a group of people that are Taking leaps of faith towards their own brighter future, that is the place. You will not get bullied there. That's the one thing we can promise you. You will be respected, you will be supported and you will not be bullied. And so if you want a psychologically safe space to actually be yourself which honestly I think is rarer than I ever thought Next overnightion is the place. So click the link below. It's totally free and we hope to see there tomorrow for episode number 1,403.

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one piece of advice we wish we knew earlier. Alan doesn't even know what we're gonna talk about in that episode, so I hope he also wishes he knew it earlier. I'm sure that I do, will find out as always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and at NLU either not a fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow break free from judgment.

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Next overnightion.

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Strong work.

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That was good got me fired up.

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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