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#1410 - 3 Words That Put EVERYTHING Into Perspective

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

In this episode, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros talk about mortality and the idea that a firm grasp on the inevitability of our end can birth a profound appreciation for the present and prompt us to live more authentically. This notion, inspired by the imagery in Nickelback's music video, Saving Me, is a sobering reminder to free ourselves from the mundane and prioritize what truly matters. The lens of death also brings certain regrets into focus. They also discuss gratitude over regret and that the fragility of life is a precious reminder to cherish the moments with our loved ones and appreciate the fleeting nature of time. They also talk about embracing life's trials and tribulations, adopting a practice of micro-dosing grief to navigate life's frustrations successfully.

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Show notes:
[2:39] Nickelback music video
[6:02] It allows you to live your life differently
[9:41] People want easy
[11:18] You're going to die
[13:22] What you do in the dash
[19:01] Eddie expresses his satisfaction with Alan's support in his and his business' growth through the Next Level Business Solutions
[20:14] One day, you will wish you had taken the opportunity
[27:04] Microdosing grief
[31:08] Perspective resets
[35:30] Outro

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Speaker 1:

Next level nation. Welcome back to another episode of next level university, or where we teach you how to love your life, your health and your wealth. I almost did a podcast growth you introduction there. We hope you enjoyed our latest episode. It was episode number 1409. Is your social media serving you today? For episode number 1410? Three words that put everything into perspective. I want you to picture a 19 year old Kevin Sitting in front of the television watching MTV, and I don't remember what the music video channel or programs were, maybe TRL the one that was a different channel.

Speaker 1:

I have empty, empty.

Speaker 2:

Mtv had a bunch of music videos on one of them was this I didn't have cable, you didn't have cable, I didn't have cable for many years after my stepfather left, we didn't have cable for.

Speaker 1:

Ever. Do you think that's why you like movies so much?

Speaker 2:

Holy crap, I've never connected that before my goodness gracious, we had a breakthrough right there not even that is interesting.

Speaker 1:

You want me to get back into the content? Yes, please. Okay, I want you to picture Kevin, 19 year old Kevin, sitting in front of MTV and this music video by the biggest band in the world around this time comes on. It's a song called saving me by Nickelback. For some reason, everybody hates Nickelback. Look, they write bops. They're the best. It is what it is their talents and I don't know why everybody hates them. I think everybody hates them because they got so popular. We actually talked about that one time. There was an entire year and I don't know where this came from. There was an entire year where there was a Nickelback song on for every single second of the year on some station on the planet. So that's probably why people hate them because they were so popular.

Speaker 1:

But the premise of this music video is Everybody has a Time above their head and in the beginning we don't know why they have a time above their head and that time is counting down to when they die. And that is the entire premise of this music video is, I think the main character of this music video can save people if he sees that they're coming down to the end of life and maybe they're walking across the street. He can save them. We just watched Tara and I watched a Netflix show recently called manifest and it's a very similar show when there's something called a death date and everybody thinks they're gonna die on this date and everybody lives their lives Drastically different based on the fact that they know when they're gonna die the three words. That puts everything into perspective You're gonna die. Now I know that might be a little bit triggering, I know that's kind of hardcore, but I do believe one of the Biggest benefits to working on your consciousness and elevating your consciousness is it allows you to have that, that kind of perspective.

Speaker 1:

I went down to Alan's house recently and we recorded in person and I got up early and I went to the gym and it's like, oh, it's gonna be an hour and 20 minute ride and I had a moment where I Was driving down and I said it's Monday morning, I'm my own boss, I get to do kind of whatever I want. This is wonderful. This is a wonderful problem to have right now, but I'm always thinking to myself how much does this actually matter, based on the fact that eventually, one day, I'm not gonna be here anymore? And I always try to weigh things that way now again. Am I perfect? No, am I Always 100% focused like that? No, but I do believe it is a wonderful reminder where, look, you might be having a bad day. Maybe you spilled your coffee. Maybe you spilled something on on a new shirt that you love. Maybe had an argument with your spouse, maybe worked and go the way you want. Maybe you got a flat tire. Maybe you got a ticket. All of those things, yes, they can suck and yes, they're all important and they all matter, but if you do hold the perspective of, well, in the grand scheme of things, how big of a problem is this? Is it really that big of a problem?

Speaker 1:

I think having You're gonna die eventually in your brain somewhere Just brings a really Important level of contrast. That's contrast. That's what that is. We all know Somebody who has passed away and we are usually shaken when that happens, because that might be the first time we've thought about it In who knows how long. And then we're reminded and we tend to live life a little bit differently for a short period of time, and then we Unfortunately fall back into the law familiarity of okay, I'm most likely not gonna die for another 60 years, or whatever it is. So I thought this would be a valuable episode from the place of this all started with a podcast called hyper conscious, acutely aware. This is a very hyper conscious belief to hold because, yes, it's, it's heavy and yes, it's triggering, especially if you just lost somebody, if you did. My apologies that that happened and we did this episode right now. But I I just think it's one of those important, impactful things to hold in your mind, because if it allows you to live life a little bit differently, I Think it's worth it.

Speaker 1:

When Alan and I went to Florida one time, I had a panic this is the first time I ever had a panic attack, anxiety attack and I was laying on the floor, the cold floor, in a hotel room, and I I am not kidding I thought I was going to die and I had a moment where I was like, well, at least I'm living my dreams, at least I'm doing what I love, at least I I left my job and I tried this podcast thing and if this is it which I really thought it was, then at least I was here in, not doing something that I was miserable doing. Now again, I know that's hardcore and I know that's a lot of things, but I want to share that just because that was the perspective that I had then and it's something that I try to think about often because it makes the oh, I had to drive to Alan's, it's not that big of a deal. Oh, okay, I had to drive an hour and 20. I had to commute.

Speaker 1:

For the first time in two years, it's not that big of a deal, or we had to buy a new microphone, or we had to buy a new mixer. Yeah, it was 150 bucks. Whatever, it's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Now, last thing before I kick it to you, alan, after this monologue. Yes, you could also use that negatively. Right well, I'm gonna go to the beach today. I'm gonna go to the beach for the next month because I'm gonna die eventually. Yes, you can use it on both ends. That's the way it works when you have something like this, but hopefully you'll use it in a positive manner that will add value to your life the best way I've ever been able to articulate this is through a concept that I shared with Kev not long ago About duality.

Speaker 2:

You've heard me say things if you're a long-term listener. I say things like life is the dance between two extremes. Life is the dance between expansion and refocus. You expand, you expand, you expand, you learn, you grow, and then you refocus, refocus, refocus. You go explore who you are and then you redouble down on who you are and it's, it's.

Speaker 2:

All of life is a dance between two extremes up and down, light and dark, good and evil. You name it, and I always talk about the three movies. The first movie is An award ceremony all success, no failure and at the end, an even bigger award ceremony worst movie ever. The second movie is Rags no Riches Failure, failure, failure, adversity, adversity, adversity, trauma, trauma, trauma. And then Rags no Riches at the End Second worst movie ever. A great movie is Rags no Riches Success and Failure. In between, trials and Tribulations, adversities and Successes, earned, merited, meaningful Struggle toward Deeply Meaningful Purpose and Goals.

Speaker 2:

Some people want an easy life and their life ends up being really hard because they think things should be easy. Other people think life should be hard, so everything's kind of gravy, because when anything does go well, they're like blown away and they're super grateful for it and everything in between. And every single one of us is living a life either in or outside of alignment with what fulfills us. And so there's my high level philosophy about life. So, with Emilia this Sunday, and we were talking about how people choose to live their life, and we were doing this hike and it was actually a pretty intense I mean, it's not like we're climbing a mountain or anything, but we were getting after it. We were especially on the way back. It was hot, we were sweating, it was good and we were talking about how people want easy and how that's never made sense to me.

Speaker 2:

I don't understand why easy would be the goal, because easy never creates transformation. And I told this to Emilia when I first met her. I asked her a simple question. I said do you believe that human beings can grow without challenge? She said no. I said okay, do you believe that human beings can have challenge without pain? She said no, and I said so if growth and transformation toward meaningful, purposeful goals is what fulfills us why are we avoiding the one thing we all need, which is pain?

Speaker 2:

I saw a clip recently, kev that was really, really powerful. It was about the hero and the villain. Both have trauma. Look at the hero and the villain in any movie. Their reaction to that trauma is different. The villain is life hurt me. Now I'm going to go hurt the world. The hero is life hurt me, I'm going to go, do whatever I can to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else. I just don't understand why we don't get that and I'm probably not doing a great job articulating it, but the three words are you're going to die.

Speaker 2:

In between the notes, it's what you do in the dash. I have a plaque below me that says it's what you do in the dash. What I mean by the dash is you know, I don't know, steve Jobs was. I don't know when he was born. I want to say 70s to 2011. The dash is in between the years.

Speaker 2:

So my dad I think it was 1960, he passed away and 1991, I believe, and I was recently at a memorial service for my uncle, joe, who was my dad's brother. So Joe and John, it's Jim, joe, john, jane, joan, jeanette. So I have six, oh five, aunts and uncles, now four, and so Joe and John were inseparable, and when John my dad, john's my dad when John passed away, when he was 28 years old I've been to his grave I I just when I was two and a half years old, my father passed away. So to me there was no I've talked about this before, I don't know how to articulate it other than there was no masking mortality. When you grow up in an environment where your father passed away when you were an infant, there's no avoiding the truth that mortality is a thing. I know some people that didn't experience any family members or any friends passing away until they were in their 20s, and for me it was just never that it was. This is just a part of life. You know, death is a part of life and that that's been true for me since the beginning, and so I was at my uncle Joe's memorial service and we went back to put his ashes in the same graveyard as my father and I went to my father's grave and it the dash is there. You know, 1960 to 1989, I think, and or whatever it is, but it's what you do in the dash is the saying, and what that means is what you do with your life. You know you have a year you're born and you have the year that you pass away and it's what you did in the dash that's gonna matter and I legacies my number one core value. So I think about this all the time.

Speaker 2:

I have a flash card in my pocket at all times. It's all tethered and if you're on YouTube you can see it. It's broken and ripped in half, actually, because I've been carrying it around in my pocket. We were on an event she yesterday and I pulled it out because I was driving Emilia's Tesla and she's like you still carry those, huh. And I was like, yeah, she's. She thought that was the cutest, but I said I've been carrying this for however many years.

Speaker 2:

But it's the top five regrets of the dying. It's, they're all written out. I wish I had had the courage to live a life true to myself and not what others expected of me is the number one regret of the dying. There's a woman named brawny where that we interviewed twice who wrote a book and she worked in hospice with the terminally ill and they had an end date to Kevin's point and she would. She thought her job was to take care of them, when in reality, her job was to listen, because they all expressed so much regret. I wish, I wish, I wish. And at 26, after my car accident, when I did get my second chance, I told myself I'll never take it for granted again. And so all of us do. We take it for granted, and it's not until a pet dies or a family member or a friend or an uncle. I remember being at the memorial service with that reminder for sure. It was like, oh yeah, like this is, this is finite everyday matters, and you can spend your life complaining and being upset that someone burnt your sandwich right, or you can just do deeply meaningful work towards meaningful goals for a greater purpose. And to me, adversity is gonna hit you no matter what you do. So you might as well transform from it. You might as well and you really asked me this on the walk. This will be the last thing I say before I let Kevin talk again.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, emilia asked me on the walk. She said when we have kids, how are we going to create? Our children are gonna grow up in abundance. We know that. We already know that because we've earned a lot of abundance at this stage. And when we have kids we'll be very abundant, for lack of better phrasing. And so we're not gonna like traumatize our kids with our own. You know, we're not alcoholics, we're not addicted to any drugs, we don't take any medications.

Speaker 2:

Like Emilia and I are very well-rounded, holistically well-developed human beings towards high aspirations, who believe in themselves. And we're gonna screw up parenting, for sure, but it's not gonna be the same as what our childhood was certainly not mine. And so she was asking like how do we help them develop grit? How are we gonna help our kids develop grit? Like our grit came from adversity, a lot of adversity. How are we gonna give them grit? And I said, honestly, I think we lead by example with goals. You can, you can get adversity from goals. For sure, kevin and I have a ton of adversity right now. Like I was down stairs. He means, like what's wrong? I'm like, I'm overwhelmed, I'm so overwhelmed this sucks, like I'm losing in every area. And she's like well, what do you mean? And and she, she said are you losing compared to your own standards or are you actually losing us a call? Compared to my own standards? I'm not. I mean, we're succeeding in pretty much everything right now compared to any statistical norm. But for me I'm I told you this earlier, kevin I'm not feeling successful in any one area really to my standard, and so, anyways, I digress. How we're going to inject it grit into our children, not adversity. Don't inject adversity. Well, how we're gonna inject grit into our children, perseverance and persistence and consistency and work ethic is through goals.

Speaker 2:

If you are out there and you're comfortable, you're in trouble. Comfort is a dangerous game because you don't transform through comfort. No one transforms through comfort. Now, if all you have is discomfort, you're also in trouble. There's, there's a pendulum here. You gotta try to stay at five. Drive to five is everything, I'm convinced. But if you have zero adversity, you're going to get soft, for lack of better phrasing. And when, when s hits the fan which it's gonna, you're gonna have you're gonna crumble. But if all you ever have is adversity, you're gonna have too much trauma, and you know that can go the other way too. So I think life is about growth and contribution towards a purpose, and the adversity that comes as a byproduct of that aspiration is gonna create transformation, and I think that's how we all transform. And so to that third movie analogy failure and success, adversity and advantage, opportunities and difficulties, towards a worthy aim that helps us all become better as a society, as a community, as a globe, as people, and that, to me, is what I think life is about strong monologue.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, brother, you're very welcome, very welcome One of the practices that I've had recently that has genuinely changed my life. I'm not even BSing and I mentioned this on the podcast, but it's alarming how well this works Every morning. So, fudge and Ace, where's my coaster? I have a coaster. If you're watching on YouTube, fudge and Ace.

Speaker 1:

Ace is the Bengal Cat, fudge is the. I call him my little chocolate squirrel, straight up, that's what I say. He's my little chocolate squirrel, that's what I call him. Every morning he jumps up on my desk. So I'm sitting at my desk right now and I have my laptop in front of me and he just wants to love on me, he wants to kiss me and he just gets in my face and breaks flow every single morning and he just wants love. And one day I caught myself because I was very frustrated and it's like oh, I can't type and you're blah, blah, blah, insert a thing here. And I literally looked at him and I pet him and I said to myself one day he is going to die and you are going to wish you took every opportunity you had to love on him. That's gonna happen. It's statistically, he's gonna happen before I die.

Speaker 1:

Just the way it works. He's as a shorter lifespan. Every day when he jumps up here, I love on him. I let him love on me. Does it take him out of flow? Absolutely Yep, but I will regret it if I don't do it.

Speaker 1:

And I try to and Ace doesn't do that. Ace is different, but every time Ace, he'll go. He does this thing where he walks really slow and then looks back at you and then he falls on the floor and looks for bellies, and so every time he does that, I take let me just take five minutes here in between calls if I have it, and let me give him bellies, and it's been. I'm so much more patient. I don't ever get really frustrated because I just say that it's like at some point they're gonna die, they're both gonna die and I'm gonna be so sad and I can either wait until that happens to feel it or I can try to feel it a little bit every day through gratitude. And if you did that now again, is that a dark place to live? Yeah, I know I have a weird, weird relationship with this and a weird perspective, but I think at least it gives you the opportunity to decide.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's a dark place to live. I think it can be.

Speaker 1:

I think it can come off as dark.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it is.

Speaker 1:

I love it. It's a wonderful perspective, you don't?

Speaker 2:

know the value of something until you lose it fully, right? I mean, it's such an interesting analogy, but that's, you're either gonna regret taking them for granted.

Speaker 1:

Which most likely is the regret.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's most, that's gonna happen, someone who hasn't taken something for granted. I don't know if that's even possible. Humble pie comes and when it does, it sucks, because you have to look back and go oh my god, I, yeah, I totally took that for granted, you know. I mean you and I are even in our 30s now and it's we were jacked in our 20s and it was even that I posted about earlier. It's like it's not the same game in your 30s. I wish I had known, I wish I had.

Speaker 2:

I have an 18 year old client. I'm always telling him I'm saying do not, you know, you got this he's. He's about to deadlift like I think he deadlifts like 360 or something crazy. You know, it's like keep it up, brother. He's in Costa Rica and he did the call. Still, I'm telling you, you're amazing. I can't even tell you how many calls clients have canceled when they're on vacation. He just doesn't miss.

Speaker 2:

It's awesome. I'm such a huge fan. I mean it's that up. It's going to be. It's it's going to be a meaningful, purposeful, goal oriented, aspirational life, and your adversity can be when bad things happen to you, which is going to happen or it can be towards meaningful goals that matter to you and you're going to inspire so many people when you do that. I mean especially kids and stuff. Kids are always looking up. They always look up. They're looking up to people, whether, whether they know it or not. And yeah, I don't know where I got on that, but I don't think it says I don't. I think it's actually living in the light. Acknowledging the dark is living in the light. I'm convinced of it.

Speaker 2:

We can all have you ever heard that saying of? I don't want to say it out loud because that makes it real. Hey, I have a newsflash for everybody. It's real anyway.

Speaker 2:

I told Emilia recently, I told you recently, kev, I'm not avoiding uncomfortable truths ever again. This is an uncomfortable truth that we can all avoid forever. Yeah, or we can live a more meaningful life because we know it's true and I think that that's true for every. Every mirror that you've ever faced at NLU is probably an uncomfortable truth to some extent of like. Yeah, you know what? I'm not giving it my all. You know what? Maybe I am a little lazy. Maybe I am gonna regret Not giving more gratitude to my partner. Maybe I am gonna regret not starting that business or that dog shelter or that dream.

Speaker 2:

You are, you are gonna regret not chasing your dreams. You are I mean you are you're gonna regret not achieving your goals. If they're meaningful, if they're, if they're surface level goals, you might actually regret getting them and realizing that you invested, you know, at the expense of things that you care about for sure. I've had regret on both ends of that. I'll tell you what I've regretted not achieving my dreams and I've also regretted when I hit a goal and I was like, hmm, yeah, no, that way I wish I had focused more on some more meaningful things. But that's the thing. At the end of the day, you're gonna learn and grow and Figure that out as you go. And if you're not giving it your all, I I do believe you will regret that.

Speaker 2:

I regretted that Big time after my car accident. I I was like that could have been it. My dad didn't get a second chance and I do. I did, I am getting one and I'm not screwing this up and that's why we talk about that so much. Like Kevin, suicidal ideation, midlife crisis at 25, we call it a quarter life crisis, but that shifted everything for us. This one thing shifted everything for us because I Realized that the alternative, you know we went in the other. What is it? You never get to hell, yes, until you. Until you experience hell, no.

Speaker 2:

Hmm I think we used to say f yes, Back in the day continue.

Speaker 1:

I consider it Micro dosing grief. That's all I'm doing. When, when something bad happens to us that we don't foresee happening, that's when you get a lot of grief. It's like, oh my god, I can't believe that person passed away. I can, I knew it was gonna happen eventually. Right, it's that's just the way it works. Now again, that something could happen to me and I could go first for sure, but statistically, my, my Mother and grandmother are gonna pass away before I do. Statistically, I've known that for years. I've been thinking about the for years, for years, for a long time.

Speaker 2:

Why do you think that is you preparing yourself in advance? I?

Speaker 1:

Want to be able to make. I want to be able to make whatever decisions I want with the truth, yeah, that you know, not saying, oh, if I knew that was gonna happen, I would have spent more time with them or I would have done this or I would have texted them, or blah, blah, blah. I think about that and it's weird because I don't talk to my family a ton, but I'm it's conscious, I'm thinking about it, I'm not running on autopilot with that Hyper conscious, hyper conscious. So that's that would be my next level.

Speaker 1:

Nugget is Find out to what level you can micro dose of grief. That what, that's. What grief is? I, for a lot of us, I think it's the, the understanding that what we're missing will never not miss because it's never coming back. I try to do that every day, every time I look at Fudge and ace, to the point where I won't say it around Tara, because I know it, she gets super sad when I say it. But I need that, it's important for me. It's important for me. I need to know, I need to feel it in advance, because when you feel in advance, you'll do something different. How many times have we? I remember I sprained my ankle one time bad, and I was like I cannot believe I've been so Ungrateful for the ability to walk right and then guess what? A year later I forgot about it completely. I got about it completely because it just you

Speaker 1:

know, came. It became normal again. It became normal again. Alan asked me before this. He said what's your intention for this? And I said I just want. I Want to bring up the fact that a lot of the things that we're very frustrated about are like five second frustrations, and there there are other things that are five minute frustrations and there are things that are five day, five week, five month. Just ask yourself that question Is this gonna matter a Year from today? If I don't do this today, will I regret this five years from today? If you're asking yourself those questions, I I can't promise anything, but I'm willing to bet you will have a more holistically successful life. Am I really proud of the way I showed up today with my partner? No, that's okay. At least you admitted it. Now go. Now you can go do something about it.

Speaker 2:

But, if you can, this is someone who says, yeah, I'm the man or I'm the woman, and then does nothing different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's like well then you're not gonna be that successful, you're most likely not gonna be that successful. So that's my next level. I figure out what is the level to which you can micro dose grief.

Speaker 2:

Better last story promise. I Actually mean it this time, kev. I'm in college. You know I've frequented the basketball court in my day.

Speaker 2:

I've heard okay intermirals, championship game Planning and football team pretty serious right, they are not basketball players, they're football players and they're larger than me, especially back then, and they let's just say they are rough around the fouling Area because they are used to football, which is a full contact sport, and in basketball those are fouls. So, anyways, external blaming. Already I go up for rebound, can jump pretty high, can touch rim at this point, could dunk all that. I Come down on two people's feet, so their feet were on top of each other and I I'm talking ankle all the way to the floor like you want to talk an ankle fully rolled. I mean, it was like my ankle was basically touching the floor. Picture a 90 degree angle with your ankle is terrible. Anyways, I end up going to the hospital to see if it's broken. And I was complaining. I was so upset it was spring break. Damn, I'm about to graduate.

Speaker 2:

I can't believe this happened. I'm in crutches, I'm crushing up. I can't go to the party tonight, right? Poor me, poor me, poor me, dude, we go to st Vincent's, which is a hospital in Worcester, massachusetts, and I swear to you, man, I'm driving there going to the ER, mmm, and I see someone crutching up the side up this big hill with one leg and I sit down. That's it. Hmm, that's it. You're done bitching. That's the end. You'd be grateful that you have both legs From this moment on.

Speaker 2:

That was the last complaint I'm hearing from you, and this is my self talk, right, because I was. I can't even imagine Like, are you kidding me that person? I'm complaining that I have a sprained ankle and this person has no leg and they're still crushing up the hill, you know. So I get emotional thinking about it, because I'm just, I just don't like taking things for granted and I try really, really hard not to. I think it's part of human nature. I think we all do it to some extent, but you got to have those.

Speaker 2:

I call them perspective resets. That's why I watch certain movies. Hotel Rwanda, there's certain movies that are, you know, really dark, but they they help show you the light Because, you know, kevin and I's challenges are nothing compared to what the genocide that happened in Rwanda. I just, for me, that's important. You know we have a free country, we've got a good economy. You know it's it's, it's a perspective reset. There's another great movie about chess, from a young woman based on a true story in Nigeria, and it's like whoa, that's poverty. You know that's poverty We've got to. You know, god forbid our kind of couple of clients not paying or whatever. You know there's there's. There's a big difference and I think those perspective resets are really powerful. So hopefully this will serve as that for you.

Speaker 1:

So what would your next level nugget be? Micro dose perspective.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, micro dose actively seek perspective resets. I purposely, with Emilia, will choose movies that will. That will reset my perspective and make us more grateful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm glad we did this one Again. It was one of those ones where I knew it would be a hyper conscious one, but I don't know. I think this is everything and it took. It took me a long time to get to this point where I'm really thinking about that, but it's, in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal. Almost nothing is depending on what you want to, what you want to compare it to, right, depending on what you want to compare it to. You can always get yourself into that mind of like I got a flat tire. It's not that big of a deal.

Speaker 2:

I call a number and they come fix it Right.

Speaker 1:

It's like it's not that if this happened 50 years ago I'd be out on the side of the high and again, I don't know, right, I'm assuming I have service or whatever. I don't know. I haven't got a flat time, a flat time in a long time. Cool, cool, you know that's cool, good for me, right. But there's a lot. There's a lot of other things that are way more challenging than that. So hopefully you found perspective in this episode. I know it was a longer one, I know it was deep, but I think it was necessary and that's what my intention for this episode was. Well done, you dig Very much. All right, next up the nation.

Speaker 1:

We very rarely mention this for some reason, but if you don't follow us on social and you want to see my cats, who I'm showing right now on YouTube, I show a lot of pictures of my cats. My handle on Instagram is at never quit kid in Facebook, kevin Paul, mary Allen is a Lazarus a L A Z a R O S 88 on Instagram and Alan Lazarus on Facebook. So, yeah, if you listen to us and you've never followed us on social and you want more of us in your life, we post every day. Some days I miss because I'm out here, jeff and, but Alan does. Alan never misses. So shout out to Jesse, who's helping Alan with the social media.

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Yes.

Speaker 1:

That'll be in the show notes. Our handles will be in the show notes.

Speaker 2:

If you've heard, we have a extremely famous book club, and by extremely famous I mean it's an amazing group of anywhere from eight to 15 individuals every single week. But I do appreciate book club so much. So we have uh, we're about to finish. How emotions are made by Lisa Feldman Barrett. We have a poll in next level nation. It is featured at the top. This is your last chance to vote. We are closing the votes tonight at midnight so that everyone has enough time to get their book.

Speaker 1:

We wait tonight Tonight at midnight. Oh what, what day?

Speaker 2:

What day is this episode? It's dropping.

Speaker 1:

Thursday.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well then, thursday at midnight. It is Thursday at midnight. It is limitless by Jim, so get your votes in now. Limitless by Jim. Quick High performance habits by Brandon Bershard. Your erroneous zones by Dr Wayne Dyer. Indistractable by near Yal. Peak performance by Brad Stilberg. We just are coming off of three very emotionally heavy books and we need a break from emotions books. So these are all about mindset, neuroscience, peak performance, errors in thinking. So it's very much themed. Go vote and this is Thursday, if you're listening to this vote by tonight at midnight, closing it, and then get your book as soon as possible. Midnight EST.

Speaker 1:

Yes, okay, tomorrow for episode number 1411. What are you avoiding? Right now? I found myself avoiding something that I actually wanted, and it was like what is going on here. So, again, I try to take lessons and experiences from my life and share with the audience, with the hope that there will be some value hidden in there, like a needle in a haystack. So that will be tomorrow's episode. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, we're grateful for each and every one of you and an NLU. We did not have fans. We have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

Don't take anything for granted Next time on nation.

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