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#1414 - How Your Crutches Are Holding You Back…
In this episode, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros talk about the importance of understanding our 'crutches' and their effects on our lives. They discuss how a crutch like social media filters can create a false sense of security, and provide other examples of crutches. They discuss that it is difficult to do at first, but confronting uncomfortable truths motivate you to identify and break free from your crutches.
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Show notes:
[3:56] A positive crutch is not meant to be permanent
[5:46] Hormesis
[11:36] Face the uncomfortable truth and stop using crutches
[14:35] Amanda shares how Alan made her feel valued and supported during their first consultation call and how she appreciates his holistic approach
[15:34] Pain and discomfort catalyzes change
[23:06] It's easier to take the path of most resistance again the next time
[25:39] Good habits are hard to create and harder to sustain
[29:20] Outro
Next level nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we teach you how to level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed our latest episode, episode number 1413, why empathy is so important in your relationships and in your life in general. Today, for episode number 1414, how your crutches are holding you back, I saw something on social media the other day that really blew my mind. I came across this profile and this guy is a.
Speaker 1:He's a bodybuilder, a bodybuilder, a weight lifter, a power lifter. I'm not really sure what he is exactly, but on his page and I don't know how he got good at this either, but on his page he finds people's photos that were photoshopped and he somehow gets the original version and he shows the difference and he zooms in and shows where it's been photoshopped. And the people that are photoshopping these photos are professional bodybuilders, professional models, personal trainers, fitness trainers, men's and women's bikini bodybuilding winners. These people are photoshopping their pictures from on stage where they're holding the trophy. Imagine that level of I don't want to say just imagine. That level of dishonesty is what I'll say. That's a very dishonest thing to do, especially if you're trying to sell a program as a fitness person, and you're not. You don't even look the way you look, and that's very misleading.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you saying that it is dishonest. It's very dishonest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it is as somebody who, again, I told you I don't want any of my pictures ever edited. I don't filters, I don't believe in that stuff. If I don't look that way, it's not good.
Speaker 2:I know it's not good as a fitness model I used to. I did 43 photo shoots in my day and I remember there was a short phase where I was editing and it was like two weeks and I couldn't do it. You remember when we used face tune or whatever.
Speaker 1:I was editing a few of my photos. No, we, I never used it. I did, I did yeah.
Speaker 2:So I did for like two weeks and I couldn't do it. I was like this is I can't do it.
Speaker 1:That's why I want it. I could still blur the background.
Speaker 2:I could still do the blurring of the background, but I could not do it. But, yeah, continue.
Speaker 1:That's why I wanted to do this episode how your crutches are holding you back, even if in the very beginning of this person's fitness journey, they were editing their pictures and they kept doing it, they kept doing it, they kept doing it. Now they are quite literally some of the best competitors in the world and they're still doing it. That crutch in the beginning that maybe was a crutch is not serving them and it's becoming I mean, that's a very if you really think about the layers underneath that, that person is probably very, very, very insecure, very, very insecure. All of this came up for me when I was. Some ad that I got sent was what is that noise on your end? My landscapers Okay, I just want to make sure I wasn't hearing stuff. I got sent this. It's the shirt that says. The tagline is everybody will ask you if you've lost weight. Now I want to make this very clear. I understand that if you're a certain level of insecure, that is a potentially positive crutch to have. Maybe it brings some self-esteem. If you're somebody who's afraid to go to public events because you feel so out of shape or you're so ashamed of your body 100% that's a great crutch to have. But the crutch is meant for us to strengthen so we can eventually live without it. And there's a lot of us who are taking advantage of crutches and we're not understanding the long-term detriment of that whole process.
Speaker 1:I remember I wanted to be able to go out to the bar without drinking. Remember that Because I said getting drunk for me is a crutch. When I go out and I go to the bar, I'm insecure, but when I'm drunk I'm not. When I'm drunk, it's easy. I go places all the time now and I don't drink all the time. When I went to a get-together with our friends, I had one drink when we got there some like seltzer drink. I never had one and that was it. And I just had it because I wanted to taste it.
Speaker 1:It wasn't for me to escape my early next level nugget in this episode is what is your most commonly used crutch and what could we do to start walking in this example, for lack of better phrasing walking without it. I'm not saying crutches are bad. I am saying that if you use them for too long, they're not going to serve you anymore. Imagine if you sprained your ankle and you started using crutches and you just never stopped using the crutches. Your ankle's not going to heal, you're not going to get as strong as you once were. You're limiting yourself so much. You just don't realize it, because there's a lot of pain that must happen in order for you to break free of that crutch in the first place.
Speaker 2:Do you ever hear the concept called hormesis?
Speaker 1:No, unless you've told me about it, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2:It's a scientific concept where a little bit of a bad thing is actually a good thing, and so I mean this applies with like, if you were to work out all day, every day, your body would actually break down. You're actually breaking down your muscles when you're working out. So if you work out five hours straight, super intensely, it's actually not necessarily constructive. But if you work out for an hour long and you're very intense and you're really crushing it, your muscles will grow back stronger, assuming you feed your body properly. Hormesis is the concept that a little bit of a bad thing actually makes you stronger. A crutch is the opposite. A crutch is supposed to be a tool that you use to get back to full strength, but a lot of people are using it and then relying on it, and I think that I've been guilty of that too. I remember talking about how it took me five years to quit drinking, and I would always go to weddings, and weddings were what I call my kryptonite, because weddings. I always said the only thing the only common core value, core aspiration, core belief that we all have in common is that we all knew this couple at one point. So you get thrown into a room. Everyone's dressed up. It's very uncomfortable because you're at a table with people you don't know and it's a bunch of people in a room that don't really know each other for the most part maybe not always, but and then it's open bar and so what do people do at weddings? They go to the bar. They drink, because everyone's the social anxiety and the social discomfort at weddings at the beginning is very high. It's not high later on at all, because most people are drinking and weddings are fun too. So I'm not, I'm not hitting on weddings. I have a blast at weddings. But that was the problem. I would, I would feel this comfort. I remember I went to this one wedding with some college friends of mine and when I got there it was like a college reunion and I was so uncomfortable. I hadn't seen these people in a decade and I was like, okay, I guess I'm gonna have one, I have one drink. And then one turned to two, two turned to four, and that next day I was hung over so badly and I was puking outside my car and I regretted it so much. But Alcohol was a crutch for social anxiety, yeah, and once I admitted that I could at least work on it Just like filters are a crutch to get social media followers or to feel more secure, when in reality you'd you'd actually benefit from posting the picture you're uncomfortable with posting. I can't even tell you how many times I posted. There was a photo I posted the other day that I was like oh my god, I can't believe I posted that. Here's another one.
Speaker 2:Emilia and I take photos together. She posts photos of me all the time that I would never have posted. You ever, you ever have that happen where someone posts a photo of you that you would definitely not have posted? Yep, yep. It's one of those things where you just kind of got a okay, yeah, I mean, that's not my most flattering Moment I have. I'll share this as well because I want to relate here to the audience. I, conscious couples. Our couch it like sinks in kev in the conscious couples podcast on YouTube. I look terrible, in my opinion, in the conscious couples podcast I my gut is like it's a very unflattering angle, seriously, and I haven't looked it's, it's brutal.
Speaker 2:If you see any of the teaser clips, if you zoom in on me, I mean I'm, it's not good, it's not good, but I would rather, rather than not, post it, I would rather just be like okay, alan, getting better shape. Now I understand that people who struggle with self-belief, and I remember a time when I was so insecure I had to leave the gym. I Couldn't look in certain mirrors like I get it. I do, but at the end of the day, these filters whether it's alcohol, there's a, no matter what it is. It could be a drugs, it could be alcohol, it could be filters, it could be.
Speaker 2:I know a lot of people struggle with porn. It could be whatever vice, whatever crutch you're using. Porn is a perfect example. Instead of going out and Falling in love and getting a relationship, getting outside your comfort zone, talking to someone and being intimate, you're just, you know, using porn as a crutch and and at the end of the day, growth is outside your comfort zone and the crutch is designed to get you out of pain. And Kevin and I talked about this recently. Behind the scenes of, you're now crushing it in bodybuilding and you're doing a really good job and you're tracking every calorie and you're like a bodybuilder again and you're you're rock and roll and your self-esteem through the roof. I love it.
Speaker 2:But, dude, I was the one who had to come to you and say you're not the guy anymore. Yeah, I used to look to you to information and inspiration. I actually cried behind the scenes with Kev because he was Definitely someone who helped me be better through his inspiration, his effort. I felt very alone in the bodybuilding space, and it's not just Kev. I used to hang out with a lot of bodybuilders and now I don't have a lot of bodybuilders in my life. So of course, I'm feeling it and I shared that with Kevin.
Speaker 2:That pain got him off his ass for lack of better phrasing, you know, I, I joked, I said this is, this is next level. You, this is not dad bod, you, you know, although it's quickly becoming that if you look at the conscious couples podcast. But at the end of the day, I'm not trying to be hateful, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm not trying to self-talk us negatively, none of that. I'm trying to acknowledge that we are living below our own standards and and I'm not gonna ignore that, I'm not gonna crutch that, I'm not gonna filter that and I Think we all would benefit. We'd be surprised. We'd be surprised if we face the uncomfortable truth. I've been on a uncomfortable truth-facing spree Lately and and you will, you'll, you'll be pleasantly surprised with how capable you are when you slowly and incrementally face this stuff and Stop using crutches.
Speaker 1:I went to the barber shop recently. You can't tell if you're watching on YouTube, because I've had on, because I, yeah, I took a quick shower and I have time to do my hair before my next call. It's been a day, it's been an interesting day, and when I left my phone in the car, I Didn't bring my phone into the barber shop. I had my wallet, my keys. I left my phone. I just left my phone in the car and when I went in there, I had a couple of minute wait before I got seated and I was just looking around and it's just awkward to sit there without your phone.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, it's very awkward. I'm just. I'm like what do I look at? Do I look at somebody? They're gonna think upstairs at them. What do I? There's no TV, what am I supposed to look at? But everybody else that was waiting was on their phone. I like that discomfort. I Not know. I don't let me rephrase that. I don't like it, but If I'm the one getting judged because I'm not using my phone, I think that's a good thing If the five.
Speaker 2:For what? Let's let's go into the layers of it, because you're you're basically facing an exposure therapy for social anxiety.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't. It would be very it would be very Strange for me to allow Somebody who maybe hasn't overcome the thing that I'm trying to overcome, judge me for the fact that I've already overcome it. That's where my mind goes of. Is somebody really gonna say, wow, he looks so weird because he's looking around the barber shop? I probably did look very strange.
Speaker 2:But and even if they did, it would be. It would actually get you outside your comfort zone to put yourself in a position to be judged, which would help you grow. My thought is you're constantly avoiding being judged, you're never gonna grow.
Speaker 1:I just don't want to. I don't want to do, I don't want to rely on a crutch. That's my when I go into the restaurant. I don't pull up my phone when I, when I'm doing things where normally the trigger is this is weird or this is yeah, it's, it doesn't seem Completely comfortable. Let me find comfort. That's a crutch. I Consciously say no, don't do it. How do you know?
Speaker 2:when it's a tool versus a crutch.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, yeah, okay, that's the bad. I mean, that's the best, that's the best thing I can say. I have that moment where it's okay, I'm about to sit down, I have a 10 minute wait. You get the urge. I just slide my hand out of his pocket. Here I have a. I have a magic thing that's connected to everything. I could do anything, really. I could watch Netflix if I wanted. That doesn't serve me, though in the moment. Me sitting there and just Looking around is that that's what I would have done 20 years ago? I wouldn't have had a cell phone. I would have had to do that, that. I try to do that, try to practice that.
Speaker 2:You, kevin and I, we Produce a lot of shows at At NLU. We, as in no, the amazing production team produces a lot of shows at next level podcast solutions, and Some clients want the filler words edit it out and some don't. At one point I think our filler words started getting editing out a little bit because we had a new person on the production team that ended up editing some of that stuff out and then I ended up messaging the head of our production team saying please don't edit that stuff out. The reason why is because when Kevin and I listen back to the show we're trying to become better speakers I need the pain of Saying like and you know, a bunch of times Kev says interesting constantly.
Speaker 2:He doesn't want to edit out all the interesting things, aka filter the photo Type of thing, because he wants the pain that will actually catalyze the change. This is my thesis. I believe that all behavior change Cannot happen Without some pain and discomfort. I don't think transformation is possible without pain and discomfort. I just got off the phone with a client. He is going through this new relationship and he is outside of his comfort zone in so many areas and he had to look into some tough mirrors on that coaching call of.
Speaker 2:Am I Overdoing the infatuation stage? Am I allowing this to harm my goals? Am I losing myself in this relationship? That is, the mirrors of discomfort Versus the crutch of just constantly having your partner right there by your side 24 7 365. All of us, if we want to grow, we're gonna have to identify these crutches and we're gonna have to Eventually. When you're riding the bike, you got to take the training wheels off and then, who knows, maybe you go from a two tire bike to a one tire bike. If you're a cyclist, I don't know. Obviously that's a bad analogy, but Whatever your crutch is, whatever was once a tool might be a crutch now. And have to your example of being in the barbershop ten minutes. If, if I were you, I Would have taken out my phone and done some productive work, because I think ten minutes a long time to be staring around.
Speaker 2:It was good, but yeah, oh, hundred percent, hundred percent, and I'm not. But what I'm saying is that would be a tool. Yeah, see, it's not I need this phone To distract me, it's. I actually am gonna use this as an opportunity to add some value here, yeah, or to do some productive work. So, tool versus crutch great concept, huge fan.
Speaker 2:A Little bit of a bad thing, a little bit of pain, a little bit of dust. Comfort is all often actually what's best for us. Too much comfort is not good for us, I'm telling you. Too much comfort is bad for humans. It's bad for that's why the economy crashes.
Speaker 2:We're all too comfortable and then we start getting lazy and complacent. It's human nature. When things are overly abundant for too long, we start to get a little bit complacent and things start to go downhill. And then by the time you realize the plane is crashing, it's like, oh crap, I gotta do my mobility or I gotta be more productive, or I gotta look at my bank account more, or whatever it is. So feedback, just at the end of the day, identify and ask yourself like where are my crutches? What are my crutches? You know, let me get outside my comfort zone. Maybe I don't have to. I was with a couple recently. Maybe we don't have to FaceTime every night, you know, and that's their choice. I think it can be really cute to FaceTime every night, but you know, it's up to you.
Speaker 1:Big fights this weekend, big UFC card Saturday night. So don't worry about it, I'll be available at some points during the day. I'm gonna write a song Saturday. I think it's a whole thing I'm already thinking. So this is what happens. I have my. If you've listened, you know I'm a sports better. I like to bet on fights pretty much that's it. And obviously I like to have my phone because you never know, an opportunity to make a bet in the last minute might happen and I need to have my phone there. I need to have it. But I'm trying to be more conscious of if it's a slow fight or they're talking about something in between fights. For 10 minutes, don't pull out my phone and scroll social media. Just sit there or do something else, but don't say I need a distraction. So that's another question is are your crutches based on distraction?
Speaker 2:Can you articulate the benefits of this stuff? Because?
Speaker 1:it's very.
Speaker 2:It's like you're just doing this because you're doing it, but I know it's more than that. Like what are the? Let's say you didn't. Let's say you did use filters. Let's say you always were on your phone.
Speaker 1:You know, while I use filters, I wouldn't be able to podcast like this and show up seven times a week looking like garbage some days. Some days, I just don't look that good. Some days I have zits, some days, you know, I have bags under my eyes because I haven't been sleeping. It would be very, very hard for me to show up every day without. Now, again, I think you and I are probably pretty extreme examples, because I don't even think about it. I don't even think about being on camera. I don't even think about it anymore. It is so. I'm so numb to that. That's not where my growth is anymore, though. Really, that's not where my growth is.
Speaker 2:Did you use to think about?
Speaker 1:it, definitely. I'm sure I thought about it more than I do now. Yeah, it's For me. I know it will be beneficial to do it, because everything gets a little bit easier, because I know I'm going to have another opportunity to do it. It's almost like you're knocking down the first domino, and this was very conscious for me. This started, I believe, at the beginning of Taranay's relationship, where we would be out to dinner, she would get up to go to the bathroom and I would say I'm not going to pull up my cell phone, I'm just going to be uncomfortable. Let me be uncomfortable, okay, but why, Like what's the benefit?
Speaker 1:The benefit is if it's uncomfortable, it serves a purpose to grow. There's some sort of growth there. That's what it was For me, the social anxiety thing.
Speaker 2:So, overcoming social anxiety, one little stair, step at a time through uncomfortable moments and leaning into them instead of going to a crutch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't want to. I don't like crutches. I've never liked crutches. I've never I've used them. I was addicted to porn. I used to have to smoke weed every night to get to bed. Like I've definitely used crutches, for sure.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's it. You have a lot of pain associated with crutches that went too far.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm just trying to get a little bit better. That's part of it. I know I'll be more confident if I don't do the thing that. That's my thought process. If I sit here and just observe and have the potential of getting judged, I don't know. Is the person over there eating their fettuccine alfredo really caring about what I'm looking at? Probably not. They have fettuccine alfredo and breadsticks. They're fine, they're living their best life. They don't care about me. They're not focused on what I'm looking at. If it's, if it's going to be a crutch, I know that I'm most likely going to use the crutch next time and every other opportunity I get. But if I break the cycle here, I don't have to which.
Speaker 2:in the past, you have stayed in your comfort zone so long that you were living smaller and smaller and smaller. And then eventually you felt backed into a corner.
Speaker 1:Fair.
Speaker 2:Can you articulate quickly I know we got to go Can you articulate for our listeners what it was like on the other end when you weren't facing these little fears along the way?
Speaker 1:Because that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2:You're really fear chasing essentially.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been trying to do that every day. I don't know what it was like because it was very unconscious. It was. Any time I got uncomfortable or insecure I would find a crutch. What's the nearest crutch Drink? Go to the bathroom. If we were at events and things got weird, just go to the bathroom, hang out there for a bit and then just tuck away that or go get a drink or go get food or whatever the path of least resistance. I'd find that thing and I'd get on it and I'd ride that thing for as long as I could. Then that was the downside of that it's easier to take the path of least resistance. This is in a nutshell when you take the path of most resistance, it's easier to take the path of most resistance next time. When you take the path of least resistance, it's easier to take the path of least resistance. Next time, you're just making a path for yourself. That's easier to go down. What did I do last time? Oh yeah, last time I pulled up my phone. All right, I'll do it again. What did I do last time? Ah, last time I got a drink. All right, I'll do it again.
Speaker 1:Then eventually, something happens, or you hear an episode, hopefully. And then you say, oh, I don't have to do that. Hmm, let me try that. Ah, yeah, no, last time it was really strange to go to the bar sober, but I feel like I had a really good time and I also understand how weird people are when they get drunk. I don't want to do that. I don't think I want to do that like I used to. Now everything is completely different. You go out with your partner and they go to the bathroom and you say I'm not going to pull up my phone and you feel Confident. You feel like you're standing up for your own self. You feel like you're setting a goal and maintaining it. And then you see other people doing the same, having the same opportunity, but being on their phones, and you might say I am further along than I thought I might be further, I might be more confident than I actually thought.
Speaker 2:That's a win, I'm more confident for you, that's fire. Yeah, that's good, nice, good, good good, I had something. No, but let's move forward. You don't have anything. I think it'll come back to me. What's your next level, nugget.
Speaker 1:I've already said many. I've said many of them, If you had to. Oh, I found one. I found what I was going to say.
Speaker 2:I have my next level, nugget. Sorry Say it, but I'm also not sorry because it's fire. Here's my point, and I didn't come up with it.
Speaker 1:We just went in many directions right there. Do you know what happened? You're like this is my next level. Nugget, I'm sorry, but I'm not because it's fire. It's not mine, somebody else came up with it. We're all over the place right now. That's okay, that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 2:I used to say this stuff all the time. Yeah, and I'm going to bring it back to the hyper-conscious days.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Good habits are hard to create, even harder to sustain, because of this. Yeah, because you want crutches when you're outside your comfort zone. Bad habits are easy to create, hard to break because they're so easy to maintain and easy to create. A bad habit pull out your phone every moment you're uncomfortable A bad habit. Porn every single time you are feeling it. A bad habit. Scrolling on Instagram every time you're bored A bad habit. We all know this right. A bad habit is emotionally eat every time you're having a hard time.
Speaker 2:We all understand that these are bad habits. We know that intuitively. And again, bad and good is a weird label, depending on the goal and the circumstance and you, I love ice cream too it is what it is. But you know, if you're avoiding uncomfortable things, you're most likely creating bad habits that eventually they get grooves and they just become highways and you have a highway to your bad habit and a dirt road to the good habit and eventually you just don't feel in control of your own life. You don't feel confident, you don't have self-respect anymore. You know, I've been there with alcohol. It was so bad and I just don't want that for anybody.
Speaker 1:So same, but my next love of Nugget would be very similar. It's next time you're uncomfortable, ask yourself why, and what is your normal crutch? That would simple one, and just become more conscious of that. A crutch for a lot of people is when we're in public, we put our head down, we don't make eye contact. That's a crutch. It's a crutch. I have the same thing at times. I'm always practicing head up, chest up, make eye contact. That's a simple one. I always say when you're walking down the aisle, there's nothing more awkward than walking down an aisle in a supermarket and somebody's all the way at the other end. What are we doing here? You're going to look at me and I say, hi, there's a lot of time to think about this stuff. Anything could happen, anything. I'm always thinking of that. So if you experience that, you'll know what I'm talking about. Next level nation. If you are listening to this, it is Monday. This Thursday, 6 pm, eastern Standard Time, our 20th monthly meetup in a row. Is your mental health hindering your growth? If what we talked?
Speaker 1:about today this episode is dropping. Oh yes, sorry the 10th. It would have been this Thursday, but we moved it because we're traveling. Nice catch.
Speaker 2:The 10th.
Speaker 1:August 10th, 6 pm, Eastern Standard Time our 20th.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do it together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's on me. Our 20th meetup. Is your mental health hindering your growth? If this episode resonated with you, that might be a sign that your mental health is hindering your growth. I think when we often times, when we talk about mental health, we think depression, anxiety, very, very, very heavy, serious stuff. I would argue that what we talked about today is very connected to your mental health. So join us. It is completely private, it's behind the scenes, totally free. You don't have to participate. You can participate if you want. Please join us. Link will be in the show.
Speaker 2:If you would like to get outside your comfort zone. I have been offering 30-minute free breakthrough sessions only with listeners of this show. This is the only place that I'm actually offering it. I want to meet our listeners. I want to help you unlock your true potential. I want to help you align your goals, your processes, your habits and your systems with your dreams. If you feel like you're lost, directionless, struggling, I can promise you I will believe in you. I will believe in your goals and dreams. I will help you believe in yourself. I will definitely be able to illuminate some things that you hadn't maybe thought about or realized. Sometimes, just sitting down, having someone ask you the tough questions and sitting down and really answering vulnerably I don't bite. It's completely private. I hope that you join. The link will be in the show notes.
Speaker 1:Tomorrow for episode number 1,415, sleep is actually productive. I used to think getting enough sleep was a bad thing for a long time, most of my life, which is alarming, looking back. We're going to talk about sleep. We haven't talked about sleep in a hot minute. I know it's not the sexiest topic, but I also know that our community tends not to get enough sleep, unfortunately. We're going to talk about it because sleep is sexy. Tomorrow, that's tomorrow. As always. We love you, we appreciate you, we're grateful for each and every one of you. We are fans, we have family. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Tools, not crutches. Next time on Asia.
