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#1618 - You HAVE To Look Back To See How Far You’ve Come…

Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

Have you ever revisited a book or an old journal entry and discovered an entirely new perspective? In today’s episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros’ conversation is an intimate reflection on the gradual yet powerful progression of self-discovery and wisdom gleaned over time. They discuss the profound impact that revisiting past creations can have on our perception of growth. It’s a reminder that the person we are today is built upon the foundation of our yesterdays, and looking back can fill us with gratitude for the roads traveled and the lessons learned.

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Show notes:
(3:35) Zoom out
(6:04) Reflecting on past memories
(10:57) The chance to see the distance we’ve traveled
(14:27) Meet like-minded people and jumpstart your journey to achieving your dreams while optimizing your life. Join Next Level Group Coaching. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/group-coaching/
(17:53) The significance of our past
(19:09) Understanding exponentials and the power of compounding
(24:21) It’s okay to look back
(27:05) Reflecting on growth and gratitude
(31:49) Outro

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Speaker 1:

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1617,. What's your relationship with earning it? I don't feel like that was my strongest communicative. Communicative is that a word? Episode? That's a really. It was a hard concept to explain without sounding like a not so nice person, so hopefully you resonated and got some value from that episode. Today. For episode number 1619, you have to look back to see how far you've come. Alan and I had a blast from the past today. We went back into the old days, when we were younger than we are today. Somebody that I'm friends with on Facebook shared a link to a video of our old high school, because our old high school ended up getting turned into the middle school and they built a new high school and they're getting rid of it. It's a hundred years old, I think. No, 80 years old, so there's just not a lot of use for it.

Speaker 2:

It's in rough shape 1935,. I think is when it was built, so 90 years almost.

Speaker 1:

That's wild and when we were watching this it brought back all the feels. It was a video walking through the halls and interviewed one of the teachers and looking at the gym and the locker rooms and the cafeteria and it was wild. It was so wild to look back and I think the reason it's wild when we look back on stuff like that is that was 20 years ago Almost 18 years ago, almost 20 years ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we graduated in 2007. I haven't seen that building, especially the inside of it, since I graduated high school in 2007. So 17, 18 years ago, and we were talking before we did this episode, and he said what's the point of this? Like, not in a mean way, but what's the point of this episode? And I said I just think we get so caught up in today is almost no different than it was yesterday. It's not really any different than it was at the beginning of the month. It's not really any different than it was at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1:

You have to zoom out, zoom out, zoom out, zoom out. This would be my early, maybe the earliest next level nugget there's ever been. If you're struggling to find contrast in your life, maybe you haven't zoomed out far enough yet, positive or negative. When I look back on that, I'm super inspired and I have a lot of good feelings, because when I was in high school, I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. I had no clue. Podcasting I don't even think it was a thing yet I had no idea. I knew I didn't want to go to college. I had no idea what I was going to do with my life and those were some lonely, challenging times.

Speaker 1:

Allen lives in the town that we both grew up in and oftentimes when I go down to Allen's place, when we're recording or we have a meeting in person, I'll drive down the street I used to live on and I will look at the duplex that I grew up in. It just brings back all the the vibes across the street. If you go up the hill, across the street from where I used to live, there's the town park that we used to call the puddle and I used to go up there and we used to play hockey and we used to party and we used to drink in the woods and it just brings back all the memories because I had no idea who I was, I had no idea what I wanted, I had no idea what my life was gonna look like. I had no idea what my future was gonna look like. But now, when I look back, it's so easy to recognize how different I am. But I don't feel any different than I did last week. I don't really feel any different than I did at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1:

So I always love doing episodes like this because maybe somebody didn't share your high school that you went to on Facebook and you didn't have the opportunity to go. Take a flashback to when you were in high school and you didn't get all of the nostalgia and all the lessons and all the perspective that comes with that. That's why I love doing these episodes, because it's so powerful. It's so powerful to look back and think of that, or look back and think of my first car or my first girlfriend or whatever the first podcast episode, whatever it is. I love episodes like this always. We will do them forever and ever.

Speaker 2:

These are my favorite to do for sure, emilia and I, at the beginning of COVID, we were looking at houses all across Massachusetts essentially, and it was a wild time because every weekend we were driving to look at open houses. And I remember one day it was a Sunday and we had 12 houses to look at and it's just. If you've ever house hunted, it's nothing short of absolutely exhausting and it's super defeating too, especially if it's a seller's market or what's known as a seller's market, because there's a line out the door to buy every house. Now it's more of a buyer's market. In other words, interest rates are up and less people are buying houses and there's more available. But back then everyone and their mother was trying to buy a house because interest rates were super low and everyone was fleeing the cities during COVID essentially. And so it was this wild time and it was all honestly pretty brutal. But eventually, I remember Emilia showed me a home and we looked at the satellite image of the home and she showed me all the photos of the inside and all that stuff. And when I saw the satellite image I was like that's the one, yes, 100%, because I know the area.

Speaker 2:

I live in the northern part of the town that Kevin and I grew up in, and the area that I live in is up in the woods. It's a condo complex. It's absolutely beautiful. We have forest all around us. I mean, there's an owl hoeing out my window in the summer. It's just gorgeous up here.

Speaker 2:

But there are parts of this town that are not so great, and Kevin and I grew up in the same area, and so every now and then, one example is a good one is Emilia and I, over the summer, will play soccer, we'll play basketball, and there's a bunch of different courts around here, and one of the courts is actually in the behind the middle school that Kevin and I went to, which is actually a different school than what he was opening with. It's kind of a whole thing when Kevin and I were graduating high school. Just to provide context, we were building the town, was building another high school. That other high school is actually the track that I did my own sort of mini marathon, my own marathon at, essentially, and there's like a really nice track there, and occasionally Emilia and I will go there too.

Speaker 2:

But the middle school that Kevin and I went to I went back to because there's a court behind it and Emilia and I play ball and play ball, play ball. We play basketball. Together in the summer we play soccer and basketball and I remember sitting outside the windows of the cafeteria of the middle school that Kevin and I went to and I'll never forget there was a dance that was in that middle school. That was the very first time the Eminem song came out. What's the most famous Eminem song? Way back, my name is no, keep going.

Speaker 1:

Without me.

Speaker 2:

Mom's spaghetti. Oh, lose yourself, lose yourself, okay, lose yourself, is a really famous Eminem song and I remember everyone had their hoodies on, went in middle school and it was in and I was looking in as an adult now at this tiny little room that used to be what I thought was this huge cafeteria, you know, and that's. It's just so important. And the other thing I'll add in this as well is Emilia, my mother. Over Christmas my mom came over and we hosted. It was a nice little evening and she brought my baby book and this was the first time that Emilia had seen sort of my past and we went through all my old report cards and all my old photos and where we used to live and my birth father was in there, my stepfather, my sister, all that kind of stuff. And so I often love to what I call rewatch the movie of my own life from a higher sense of awareness. And I think the best analogy and this is what I'm encouraging Kevin and I are encouraging every listener to do I use Finding Nemo as an example because I not only love that movie.

Speaker 2:

I know Finding Nemo is getting a lot of shout outs lately, but my best friend growing up and I his name was Kiki we drove our bikes, drove our bikes, we rode our bikes to the movies and we were trying to see a different movie I forget which one. I think this was back in 2004, 2002, 2003,. I don't know when that movie came out, but I know it was the early 2000s. I could tell you yeah, please, thank you. And we rode our bikes there and we missed the movie time, and so we ended up the movie that we wanted to see, we ended up being like damn, we missed the movie time. The only other thing playing is Finding Nemo. And I remember two young men, who were kind of naturally a little ego driven, were like well, I don't wanna go see a kid's movie. And we went and saw that movie and we were. If you've ever seen Finding Nemo, we were blown away. Imagine never having heard of that film and then randomly stumbling upon it and we just had the best time.

Speaker 2:

But my point is is that I've rewatched that as an adult, and as an adult you realize that it's even better than you thought as a kid, because it's one of those movies that families can watch together and the adults enjoy it just as much as the kids. And so I think that every single year of my life Kevin you included what we try to do is rewatch the movie of our own life. We try to reflect back and we try to reprocess it. From that higher sense of awareness, kevin and I are exponentially more intelligent than we were back then, exponentially more capable than we were back then, we have exponentially more self-awareness. We have exponentially more others' awareness. We have exponentially more understanding of how the world works, what has changed and what hasn't, how history works, how it all connects the economy, all this different stuff. And so now we can look back at that high school or that middle school and we can really start to understand.

Speaker 2:

And I think there's a fundamental principle here, where you never really arrive and you don't really know where you are until you look back. And so if you're climbing a mountain, every single day it feels like you're getting nowhere. It feels arduous and treacherous and it feels like a struggle and it's brutal and it feels mundane and defeating and really just hard all the time. And I really feel like that. I know a lot of people resonate with that, because that's really what life is, especially if you're climbing a big mountain. It just feels that way, often all the time, at just another day, it's like God, it's so treacherous and drudgery is what I call it.

Speaker 2:

But when you look down and you look how far you've come, it's wild how far you've come, and so for Kevin and I, that was huge and I hope that we can encourage every listener to really maybe it's photos. Maybe you go back on Facebook Every year. I feel like I do that. I go back and I look at my high school photos and I look at my college photos and I look at my Facebook and I look at my old journals and I look at these, the old podcast episodes, and I see how far we've come, even though it feels on a day-to-day basis like sometimes it feels like we're getting absolutely nowhere. It feels like we're going backwards.

Speaker 1:

Some days, I know Some days it feels like we're going backwards.

Speaker 2:

And we probably are sometimes, but when you look back it's so inspiring and I hope that it's inspiring for all of you as well. And the very last thing I'll say Kev Bob Proctor shout out. He had a quote that I loved. He said when you read a book that you've read before and you noticed something in it that you never noticed before, you're not seeing something new in the book, you are seeing something new in yourself, and I feel that way about shows and movies and images and pictures and Facebook and podcast episodes. You can get more out of these past experiences if you reflect back on them and then, from this higher sense of awareness, relearn who you are, relearn who you aspire to be, relearn deeper understandings of yourself, others in the world, and then reinvest all that into your future. So Kevin and I are 35, I think he's 34, 34.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. 1989, I was born August. What's that? I'll be 35 this year. I'll be 35. Okay 35.

Speaker 2:

So imagine Kevin reflecting on 34 years of his life and then reinvesting all of that 34 years of learning into year 35. I think that's powerful. And yeah, that's all I've got.

Speaker 1:

I've had so many reflective thoughts lately. When I'm either super low emotionally or super high emotionally, that's always my go-to One just to make sure I stay humble and don't lose sight of the mission and how far we have to go, because if we've come this far in five years, how much is gonna change in the next five. Or looking back and realizing how blessed I am to be where I am, based on the fact that, again, I didn't. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. I had no clue, but I was thinking back to one of my best friends at the time.

Speaker 1:

You know how I love watching. There's a YouTube channel it's called Cinema Sins and it's a channel about what's great about this movie, what's not great about this movie. It's just a really cool channel. It's like 10 million subscribers as well. But the one I watched was everything wrong with Dude Where's my Car in 12 Minutes or Less. You wanna talk about a blast from the past? Dude Where's my Car came out in 2000. I was 11 years old when that movie came out and just-.

Speaker 2:

That movie was ridiculous. Yeah, it was super ridiculous, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But just thinking back to, okay, when I was 11, I was hanging out with this person and we were best friends and I'd be over there every day and we'd play baseball and just-. I don't even the gratitude for how different life is now versus how different, and when I say how different, I mean the ways that it's different for other people. Not everybody has had the ability to grow like we have, or the privilege, in certain ways, to do things that we've done, so that gives me an extra layer of context. I wonder what are all the people that we went to high school doing? I think about that, like what are they all doing? Are they well? Did they move? Did they chase the dreams that they said? Are they happy in relationships? Are they healthy? What's going on there? I just yeah, it just brings me back.

Speaker 1:

Anytime I go to the old town where I was born and raised, it brings back all the feelings. I remember running on those train tracks one night when I was hammered. I remember going up to the town park and doing dumb stuff. I remember that house party. I remember riding my bike here. I remember doing this, I remember doing this, but most of all, I remember not having any clue what I wanted to do with my life, and it's just so weird to go back to an old environment with new awareness and new lessons and new experiences and new knowledge, because it really helps you look at things differently. So again, maybe a different version of a hyper-conscious episode today.

Speaker 1:

But when's the last time you went back to somewhere you haven't been for a long period of time? It, the place, is gonna probably be exactly the same, but you're not. You're completely different than you were. You might not recognize it, especially if you're just doing the same thing every single day. Some days it feels like roundhog day. You just wake up, you do the same thing. You go to sleep, you wake up, you do the same thing, but when you go, get a different piece of scenery.

Speaker 1:

I think it really helps you understand how far you've come. Even if it is what used to be a familiar piece of scenery, that isn't anymore One of my favorite things in the world. I don't think I'll ever get sick of that. I don't think I'll ever, ever, ever get sick of that. There's a part of me that always wants to live close enough where I can go back to the town that I was born and raised in, because it just I don't know, it unlocks something. It unlocks something in me every time I go. So if you haven't had the opportunity to do that or something like that, I hope you do have the opportunity to, because there's a lot of lessons in that for all of us, I think.

Speaker 2:

It's very hard to understand exponentials. I used to say this all the time and I now realize how much this may or may not land, but I used to say the problem with life and why it's so difficult for all of us is and I don't mean I mean all of us, including me is because we think linearly. But everything in the universe is exponential. A tree doesn't grow linearly. It's not one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, it's one, two, four, eight, 16. And I know, Kev, you talk about the magic penny and how, if you take a penny and double it every day for 31 days, what would that number be? And if I could say all right, Kev, I'm gonna give you $10 million and I'm gonna, or, or you can have a penny that doubles every day for 31 days, which would you choose?

Speaker 1:

Every time. And also I don't say that you taught me that, Like I came up with that one day, Like this is a really good example of compounding. You think I came up with that? The power of compounding.

Speaker 2:

You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean Okay, you would take the 10 million, give me the 10 million cash, give me the 10 million, yeah in hand.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so Kev takes the 10 million, I take the penny. That doubles every day for 31 days, yes. And what is it 10 days in or something I have like enough for a happy meal and Kev has his 10 mil.

Speaker 1:

Probably burned through about, and it's not until day 31. Probably burned through about two mil by 10 days in probably burned about two mil of that Just for the contest.

Speaker 2:

And then 31 days. It's not until the 31st day that I surpassed 10.3. I think it's 10.4 million, but it's just wild the power of compounding Because day to day, like we said in the beginning of this episode, it seems like you're getting nowhere. It really does, and it's not until you look back and go wow, I knew nothing back then. I have an 18 year old client and I'm doing my very best to guide him. In a way, I wish I could have been guided and I also had a coaching session.

Speaker 2:

One of Emilia's clients has a son who's 16 years old and she got him a Christmas gift of a coaching call and she wrote out this. It was really cute. She had this plaque and he opened it and it had $150 coaching session with Alan and it said I believe in you and this is proof of that and you're capable of anything with the right guidance, or something like that. I'm paraphrasing if that person's listening, but I actually screenshot it and I kept it in one of my private folders because it was so cool and we ended up doing it and the questions this 16 year old was asking me it was. I wish I cared about this stuff when I was that age. Can you imagine, Kev, you're 16 years old and you're asking you questions, saying, hey, how do you think? One of them is how do I be more consistent in fitness and what do you think is most important for me to be in better shape?

Speaker 1:

Whoa, I wish we cared. I cared it's 16, I cared.

Speaker 2:

About fit. Yeah, I was in the gym. He asked me some career questions too Kev.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, no, you can never ask me that, you can never ask me that and I never would ask anybody that.

Speaker 2:

You know how do I do a resume? What do you think is gonna be relevant in the future? You know, what do you think I should focus on now in terms of skill development? These are the questions that'll change your whole world. It just doesn't seem like it At the time. It seems like why would you ask that question? You know, just go have fun. What do you mean? It's all gonna work out. Let me give everyone my truth it's not gonna just work out. It's not gonna just work out, it's just not. And I would much rather you have a future. That was by design and not by default. And the last thing I'll say on this episode is this Emilia and I were talking recently because we've been reflecting a lot lately, which is one of the reasons this episode is happening and it was a trip to look at this video Kevin showed me today of the old halls of Uxbridge High School what a trip. The library and the computer lab back when I remember you and I were using the very first Mac. Remember Gerbil?

Speaker 1:

Like overcoastered. What did you say? Middle school, that was middle school. Oh yeah, gerbil, oregon Trail, the very first, mac.

Speaker 2:

You remember Oregon Trail was awesome, the OG, that was pre-internet.

Speaker 1:

I remember I got my first cell phone. It was a Verizon. No, no, I didn't have a Nokia, I had a flip phone. My first one was a flip phone. It was a Verizon. I don't even remember what it was.

Speaker 2:

You remember the texting without a full keyboard? It was just the numbers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, times are wild. Quarty, it was called Quarty.

Speaker 1:

I had a pager. My mother bought me a pager. I had a pager.

Speaker 2:

What a useless technology.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what am I gonna do with this? Let's seek a payphone. Miss Smith, may I be let out of the class? I have a page I have to respond to. I have to find a payphone. I'll be back shortly. I had a pager for a very short time. I think my mom had it and she let me use it. This is funny.

Speaker 2:

So before Kevin and I it's wild to be these back in our day Emilia and I were reminiscing and I was talking about how I'm really grateful that we live a life on our own terms, and we paid for that with just constant waking up every day trying to earn our stripes, earn our stripes, and Kevin and myself as well but I'm very grateful to live a life on our own terms. We don't have to work today. We choose to, and I just think that that's what all of us crave. And here's what I would say to our listeners If you work hard enough and get smart enough and make good choices that compound over time in the direction of your goals and dreams, you will eventually wake up one day, not only unbelievably proud of yourself, but you will eventually have a life that is entirely on your own terms. Now, I say eventually because it takes a lot longer than we wish. It's taken a lot longer than I hoped. This podcast growing this podcast has taken a lot longer than I hoped, but it's still been worth it, and those worth it moments will come, even when it feels like they're not gonna come. I always hold on to that next worth it moment, that next moment of overwhelming gratitude.

Speaker 2:

Kevin and I, we give a speech one time and it was what we had envisioned and dreamed and talked about and it was in an auditorium of 300 kids and we looked across the stage and we had that moment of remember when we talked about this years ago.

Speaker 2:

And here we are. This is it, and that moment made all the previous suffering almost worth it. It made all the previous suffering worth it, all the previous struggle, all the previous sacrifice worth it, and I will never forget those moments. Those are the moments that I live for and I knew in that moment that was gonna be one of those moments of Kevin never thought we'd get here Definitely. And here we are and I knew we would and that's awesome and I guess go me. But at the end of the day, that's what's possible for everyone, if you can stick with it when everything feels like it's crumbling around you and when everything feels like just drudgery. If you keep climbing, even though it's foggy and you can't see, and it's raining and there's a storm, if you keep climbing, eventually you'll look back and go wow.

Speaker 1:

I had someone. I told you this behind the scenes, I'll mention this quick. I had somebody reach out to me recently and they said hey, somebody just offered me a really, really, really good job. And this person's a dream chaser, so they're still in the early stages of dream chasing. And they said, yeah, it's like close to multiple six figures to come back, really good benefits. I don't know man. And I said what are you thinking? What are your thoughts? And I said be honest, what are you thinking? And he said I don't know, it's definitely it's piqued my interest. And I said well, what do you? How much money did you make last year? And this person said it last year sucked maybe 30,000. I said okay. I said what are you gonna make this year? And he said, oh, about 120. And I said okay, don't you think you'll make at least 200 next year? He said, yeah, no, I don't. I did think of it that way, but not really to that point. Sometimes you just need somebody to show you how far you've come so you realize how far you're gonna come. That's all. It's just the person.

Speaker 1:

Going back to the episode we did earlier this week or last week, that person knew the answer already. They had the. They knew the answer. They said, oh, this would be a really. This is a really really convenient thing for me to think about right now, cause I'm a struggling dream chaser. But when you look back at how far you've come in a couple of years, it allows you to understand how far you can make it in a couple more. So maybe that's a little bit of perspective. If you've been doing what you've been doing for a couple of years and you've gotten any reasonable results, there's no reason you can't get double, triple, quadruple that the next couple of years. You know so much more than you did at the beginning. So that would be my last next level nugget. I'm glad we did this. I enjoyed this episode very much.

Speaker 2:

The good one I have to give my next level nugget, I would say so yeah, I think that's fair. My next level nugget is never, ever, ever underestimate the power of improving a little bit each day in the direction of your dreams. It will blow your mind eventually. The keyword is eventually.

Speaker 1:

The keyword is always eventually.

Speaker 2:

Next level nation?

Speaker 1:

How many days? 30 days from today 31 days 31.

Speaker 1:

31 days from today is next level live 2024. Alan and I actually put together the presentation today, really outlined it, so we know exactly what we're gonna be talking about. This is the most valuable thing we've ever done by far. It's gonna have the most content we've ever presented to one audience by far. We're selling 30 tickets for in-person, 30 tickets for virtual. It is in Groton Mass. There is a catered lunch that's included with the price of admission.

Speaker 1:

Everybody that joins us in person is gonna get a free next level dreamliner, as Alan is showing on the screen. We would absolutely love to have you come if you're local and you want to come hang out in person If you are not local. That is why we have the virtual component as well. Anywhere in the world you'll get the Zoom link, all that happy jazz, just like a podcast episode that accept. Hopefully it'll be better, more funny and more valuable. So link will be in the show notes. We'd love to see you. It would mean the world to us and hopefully you'll get something from it as well. I'm sure you will and, as Alan mentioned, if you come and you don't get any value, we'll give you your money back If you do the virtual and you don't get any value, we'll give you your money back. You know that's how we try to roll, but we're sure that won't happen.

Speaker 2:

The only thing I'll add is of all the things that we've ever done, this is the highest amount of value for the price point. And, like Kevin mentioned, if, for whatever reason I seriously doubt this would ever happen but if, for whatever reason, you absolutely hate it, we will give you your money back. It's going to be a day that can change your trajectory forever. You will have a bigger, better, brighter future leaving this room. I promise you that. And if, for whatever reason, you don't agree with that statement, I will give you your money back. We will give you your money back.

Speaker 1:

No, like come out of your pocket.

Speaker 1:

Alan's going to give you direct money from his bank account, from his personal bank account. If you're scared, if you're nervous, if it's outside of your comfort zone, in the right amount, do it. That is what I would say, because you will grow from it and the lessons you'll take away to Alan's point, I think, would definitely be worth it. Even the fear chasing itself would be worth it. Tomorrow, for episode number 1600 and hold on, please hold. I messed everything up 19. So I think this is actually 1618. We're doing 1619 is tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

I jeffed it because I moved the order of the episodes. The three core wounds I said we were going to do it today. I knew this was going to be. It was supposed to be a quicker episode, it wasn't. But I want to make sure I can do research, more research, before we do that episode. I want to make sure that I feel like doing an episode like that is a responsibility. You have a responsibility involved and I want to make sure I do my due diligence before we do it. So we're going to do that tomorrow. The three core wounds as always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and an NLU. We do not have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Keep it in perspective no-transcript.

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