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#1670 - Getting Through “Stuck” - Freestyle Friday

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Have you ever felt like your life’s progress was stuck in quicksand, no matter how hard you tried to break free? In today’s episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros delve into the powerful and transformative journey of overcoming personal struggles using a personal development set point. This innovative tool has proven effective in enhancing physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being and has guided many through life’s toughest challenges. It’s a beacon of hope for those who are feeling stuck.

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Show notes:
(2:09) Reflection for a new perspective
(4:44) Prioritize, Progress, Unstuck
(6:57) Time is emotional
(12:26) Cognitive grit VS physical grit
(15:08) Next Level Dreamliner: the planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy: https://a.co/d/f1FWAQA
(20:32) Massive pain and failure
(22:38) Personal development set point and growth
(26:38) What is your person

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Speaker 1

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1,669, the Problem with Growth Mindsets. Today, for episode number 1,670, did I say 1,669? Yeah, okay, 1,670. Freestyle Friday I was going through my Instagram so, as you know, if you've been listening, I'm going through a midlife crisis, quarter life crisis, whatever it is, and I don't know what is down and what is up, but usually when I experience that, I reflect on old content and that helps me. I reflect on old episodes, I just reflect. I'm looking for perspective. So today I was going through my Instagram back in 2015, 2016, 2017, before this journey started, and I was very in shape. A lot of bodybuilding going on at the time, a lot of chicken and rice being on at the time, a lot of chicken and rice being eaten at the time.

Speaker 1

Rice cakes no, no, rice cakes for me back then. Egg whites, I ate when I was prepping, I ate chicken and rice. I ate. Egg whites, I ate. I had a protein shake. One of my meals was a protein shake. I ate the same things. I ate the same three meals twice a day for six meals.

Speaker 2

It's terrible, it was the worst Oats.

Speaker 1

I got oats in my protein shake. But I was looking back and I so the arc of, let's just say, 2015, 16, and 17,. The arc was in 2015,. Relationship went sideways. Partner left me. That was miserable. Broke work slowed down. I didn't know if I was going to be able to pay my bills. It was brutal. 2016 was the busiest year I ever had at that job and that's the year I made the most money I had ever made. At the time. I that's the year I made the most money I had ever made. At the time. I made $100,000 that year but I spent 10 months living on the road Hotels. It was brutal.

Speaker 1

2017 was suicidal ideation at the end of 2017. 2017 was start the Hyperconscious podcast. Get to the end of the year, realize I want to be a podcaster and I just feel miserable at life. And then 2018 was leave job and go full time into this. But what really jumped off the page today for me, alan, was when I look back. If you said, how long were you feeling lost and directionless and riding the struggle bus? I would have told you it was like a year, I would have said when my partner left me.

Speaker 1

The next year was brutal. It was terrible. It was the worst. In reality, I think it was only maybe two months. It was a month or two months.

Speaker 1

My partner left me in October and then January of the next year was the beginning of the busiest, most again quote unquote financially successful year I ever had. But I was doing a lot of work on myself too. This was my kind of thought for this episode. Getting unstuck is probably easier than you think. You just might not be focusing on the right things.

Speaker 1

When I look back, I thought I was stuck for like a year until I started. I remember I was posting a ton of positive content and that was kind of what got me out of. It was look, I'm going to be positive and I'm going to try to look on the bright side of things and I'm going to try not to catastrophize every single thing that's happening in my life and I'm just going to start being grateful for things that I have and I'm just going to work really hard to get out of this hole. And I wasn't making a ton of progress in the beginning, the first two months. I wasn't making a ton of progress in the beginning.

Speaker 1

The first two months I wasn't making a ton of progress, but I started to feel different and sometimes the feelings that we feel you've never, I won't say you've never. People say I feel stuck. They don't say I am stuck and a lot of it starts with a feeling. So that was yeah, that was my thought for this episode. It didn't take long for me to start trying to rebuild my positivity and to rebuild my gratitude and then I became kind of like a positive person on Instagram and a positive person on Snapchat and I was talking to people and helping people out with the issues that they were dealing with and trying to lead by example, and it just didn't take as long as I originally thought. If you said I will give you $1,000 if you can tell me exactly how long you were stuck for, I would have said it was at least six months, when in reality I think it was two max.

Speaker 2

What's the reason why you think it felt longer than it was?

Speaker 1

Because when you're going through it it feels like forever.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it feels like it's never going to end. Time is so emotional.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I was telling the story on the monthly meetup about and in hindsight I shouldn't have done this. I should have just gone on the treadmill, but it was freezing rain last week, two weeks ago. Last week, last week two weeks ago last week last week, two weeks two weeks ago, I think two weeks. No, no, no, one week. No, it was last week. I think it was like last thursday or something and I time hadn't worked out.

Speaker 1

Yet there it is, the old fickle creature.

Speaker 2

Time right right and I was listening to the art of impossible, book that I adore, by the man uh, by a man named Stephen Kotler. We actually interviewed him. That was really awesome, do you remember? No, okay, 400s.

Speaker 1

Next level university, Stephen Kotler. Was it 400s?

Speaker 2

It'll come up, I think, 400s.

Speaker 1

I want to say I don't know, Last time you did this you were like, yeah, it was like episode something, and you weren't even remotely close no, I think it probably was around there, I don't know I got this, I'm on it.

Speaker 2

Hey, we have the power.

Speaker 1

Let's find out I also have another quick story that I've never told you this did I ever tell you that I got a job tiling for a short time?

Speaker 2

no talk to me. You were right, I wasn't even close 632 yeah, yeah, yeah. The art of impossible with steven kotler's 632 you know why?

Speaker 1

knew, because last time it was the same episode you did that before where you were like yeah, I think it was like four or something, and I was like yeah, maybe, and then I looked after I was with Sam Skelly in 402.

Speaker 2

And I always think the 400s was like when we had all the guests. For some reason, I don't know why.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's fair. I got a job tiling because work was slow and I was trying to make money and somebody I knew recommended. They said, yeah, this guy's looking for someone to help. And it was wild. The nicest guy the guy was, his name was John, nicest guy on the planet Earth. He loved cats who knew that's who I was going to become, but it was just. He was elated by my work ethic because he couldn't find anybody relatable. So all I had to do was show up and he was super supportive and he taught me what I need to know so I did uh, I did some tiling for a short time in my late mid to late 20s.

Speaker 1

You want to come down to a couple? I don't have the tools necessary. He had all sorts of tools and fancy skills. I would mix the mortar up and then I would cut the tiles because he had a special saw and then I would remove tiles.

Speaker 2

It was a whole thing nice. So back to the freezing rain story and the fact that time is so emotional. It was miserable. Thursday night last week I was listening to the Art of Impossible and it was like midnight by myself. Emilia's already sleeping, the pets are already sleeping and I'm just like, all right, let's do it Whatever, let's go get some grit. And it's freezing cold and I'm in my sneakers and my sneakers are soaking wet, and just this terrible experience. So I've gone, for I've been setting a timer for a half an hour for over two years now for my exercise, my daily exercise. Normally it's like okay, let's check the time. Okay, we're probably what 25 minutes in, something like that, and I I figured it had to be less than a minute left. I've been out here forever.

Speaker 2

I feel like I've been out here for three hours. It feels like I must be almost done. Now I'm actually starting to think did I forget to set a timer Because it's not going off? What the heck's going on here? I literally checked there's 10 minutes left. I was like are you kidding me? And I had that moment. Of time is emotional. Sometimes time when that moment of time is emotional, sometimes time when you're in pain, time feels like so long. You used to say that back in the hyperconscious days. You used to say when your life sucks, yeah, time goes by so slow it was.

Speaker 1

Some people say that life is too short and other people say life is too long, and I think it's the experience, not the time. It's not. If it's too short, that means you're probably enjoying your life. If it's too short, that means you're probably enjoying your life. If it's too long, it probably means you're not enjoying your life. It's just a perspective.

Speaker 2

Yep. And you used to say, when you were at your lowest, did you used to think life was too long? Yeah, probably. Yeah, because it was painful, right, yeah, yeah. So that's why that two months felt like forever. It felt like forever.

Speaker 1

It felt like such a long period of time, even though the last three years have gone by like that, but they didn't in the minute, in the day-to-day.

Speaker 1

In the day-to-day they didn't Like. When I look back now, that's the weird thing, the last since starting this podcast, I'll say since leaving my job and starting this. This is by far the hardest thing I've ever done. The suicidal ideations and I saw a post today where it was me in the mirror flexing. I was doing I think I was getting ready to do my second bodybuilding prep.

Speaker 2

Kev showed me before this interview by the way and I was like oh, and he was joking. He's like yeah, that was me earlier this morning, me. Yeah, I ripped this right before you and I got on here. I ripped this selfie Right before we got on here. I was like dude.

Speaker 1

I'm in much better shape, trust me, very, very good shape. But the caption of it was I woke up today, I did fasted cardio, I lifted, so I exercised twice that day. I went to the gym twice that day before I went to work.

Speaker 2

How reckless is that.

Speaker 1

Hold on, that's nothing, okay. Then I worked an eight-hour day and then we drove 12 hours home from Virginia. So, upon walking in my house and taking this picture. I had been up for 23 hours at that point and all that. And we drove it all the way up the east, not all the way up up the east coast.

Speaker 2

Developing grit skills. That's what that is.

Speaker 1

Well, I developed a lot of them, but that was super challenging but I didn't hate it because it felt like I was making progress. Can we talk?

Speaker 2

a little bit about cognitive grit versus physical grit, because, dude, you and I in the early days we were trying to figure it all out and you had a ton of grit physically but cognitively you would gas out quicker than me.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, I couldn't hang Talk to us. Talk to me. You would probably know better than I. I'm sure there's something scientific my brain wasn't used to being. There would just be a point in the conversation where I just couldn't. I couldn't retain information, I couldn't.

Speaker 2

That used to be the most fun. It's brutal. That used to be the most fun when you would shut down.

Speaker 1

It was so, but that hasn't happened in years now.

Speaker 2

Your brain adapts man. Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

You probably have more data and knowledge on that than I, I don't know. It was always like I can't handle the weight of this conversation. And then next time it was like, oh, not really next time, but it gets a little bit better and a little bit better and a little bit better, like, oh, not really next time, but it gets a little bit better and a little bit better and a little bit better. And then eventually it's like, oh, okay, this is not that big of a deal.

Speaker 2

Well, you and I haven't talked about this in a while, but we have. We created something a long time ago. We co-created it with a man named Alex Hinkle. It was like a trio where we were all Kev doesn't take a ton of credit for this, because he was just kind of there, I was just riding you're just riding the struggle bus with us, but we had this.

Speaker 2

We created something called the pmes system physical, mental, emotional, spiritual and the idea is that the physical is the actions you take. The m is the mental, which is strategy thinking uh, long-term, strategic thinking type of stuff. The e is the emotional, emotional regulation, emotional maturity, emotional intelligence, understanding your emotions. Belief systems actually are there too. And then the last one is s, which is your spiritual. Your calling energy that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2

So physical, mental, emotional and spiritual development, and we used to call it a personal development set point, and it's kind of like a thermostat. So, oh my god, my alarm's going off. I got to take the pets out in 15 minutes. That means I need a little break in between this call and my next call. Makes sense, anyways. So personal development set point Kev's personal development set point in the physical arena was much higher in terms of grit than your M. Your mental arena, my M was much higher in terms of grit than your M. Your mental arena, my M was much higher. So when him and I hung out, he would have to bring his mental up in order to kind of stay in those conversations. And I remember we were where were we when we met David Meltzer?

Speaker 1

The first time, yeah, new Jersey. We went to an event in New Jersey.

Speaker 2

And do you want to tell that story?

Speaker 1

Oh, yeah, yeah, Alright. So we drive like five hours and, just mind you, all the triggers are coming back for me, because I used to drive to New Jersey every single week for work. Yeah, and I'm the driver when Al and I are together. It's just the way it's always been. I like driving, it doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2

I don't, it's all good.

Speaker 1

So we drive from Massachusetts at the time to New Jersey, which, depending on where you're going, is anywhere from a four to six-hour ride, and we go to this. I think it was at a college or something.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

There was this event at a college and it was David Meltzer was going to be speaking and there was just a bunch of other people that were going to be speaking. And we planned it around the fact that if we get there at this time, we'll have enough time to see David Meltzer speak, because we had already had him on the podcast at that point. Right, yeah, yeah. So we drive down, we kind of got a little lost when we were like parking and we walk in and we said hey, we're here to to see david melter speak and all that, and they said, oh, no, he already spoke. You know, we were like, well, no, he was. They said he was gonna speak at 2 30 like, oh yeah, no, the schedule got changed. He spoke at 11. It's like, oh, okay, all right. And another guest we had on, or we didn't have him on, we had him on after this. Michael burt was speaking, and we went and saw him speak, shout out to Michael Burt and he crushed it. He crushed that speech. He crushed it.

Speaker 2

I was like this dude is next level. Yeah, he was really good. I remember being in the audience going this is something. I don't know what this is, but this is something special. I knew that the person who couldn't hold that level, yeah, no they were up against it.

Speaker 1

But after we saw him speak, we walked back out into the lobby and we were talking to someone I don't remember who it was Maybe the event coordinator, somebody that worked at the school, I don't remember and I think she asked us how it was and we said oh, we came to see Dave and we didn't get a chance to see him speak because they changed the schedule. And she said oh, I'll take you over, he's doing a little meetup over there in the corner. I'll take you right over, we'll go hang with him right now and we're like all right, cool. And then I proceeded to sit there with a blank stare on my face, for First they took photos. Yeah, they took pictures with us, which was weird, that's. I don't understand that. I don't know why that even happened. I don't that's. That's happened to you way more than it's happened to me.

Speaker 1

But we went over and they were in the middle of the meetup and we sat down and Alan starts firing off questions and other people were asking questions too. But I couldn't ask a question to save my life. I didn't know what was. There was just too much going on. Dave was just talking about the universe and ego and consciousness and all this stuff, and I was just sitting there with a blank stare on my face and eventually we were there for like I don't know. It felt like three hours, I don't know if it was that long, but there was a certain point where I just got to a point where my brain was like that's good, we're good, we're just going to sit here with a blank stare on our face and then when Alan comes and gets you and tells you it's time to leave, then we'll turn it back on because I just couldn't?

Speaker 2

it's just like your eyes start to get heavier. The movie inside out. I don't think you've seen it on pixar. But I picture that there's a big panel and inside out there's these characters inside the brain and I just picture someone shutting down, like pretty much turning a lever where kevin's just like you're.

Speaker 1

It's almost like the top of your head gets very heavy and then your eyes get heavy and it's just a glaze. You just get glazed over and then you wait.

Speaker 2

And then we talked deep at the hotel room.

Speaker 1

With Domino's, I'm sure.

Speaker 2

Oh, yeah, probably.

Speaker 1

You know another story. We haven't told this in such a long time, so that was the first time we ever saw David Meltzer in person. We found out he was coming to Boston, which was like an hour from where we lived at the time, and we asked if we could interview him. And before they even said yes, we rented a hotel room in a really nice hotel in Boston.

Speaker 1

Yeah even said yes, we rented a hotel room in a really nice hotel in boston, yeah, and we drove to boston and we packed up all of our podcast stuff and the lights and the camera, multiple cameras, mixer microphones, microphone cables, everything and we go in and we take the elevator up to whatever floor it was and we walk in. We're like this isn't gonna work at all. There's two beds and there's no room for us to do this interview. So we took one of the beds and we put it, we stacked it on top of the other bed, we took the table out of the corner and brought it in.

Speaker 2

I knocked over the lights, I broke one of the lights, but that's just another example of.

Speaker 1

I was just thinking of that recently because I don't know. I sometimes I wonder not sometimes, oftentimes I wonder how we got here in the way that we are and I realized, like we put a lot of I probably forget and I don't mean this with an ego we I've probably forgotten how much recklessness and just smashing your head against the wall we've done over the last seven years, and that's one of them. Like, whatever, whatever it takes, are we going to get fined? I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. Are we going to break the bed? I don't know. We'll figure it out, but it worked.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it worked. When people ask me on other podcasts, how did you guys do it? I often joke. I say massive pain and failure. Yeah, that's fair and I say it playfully, but the truth is a lot of it was. Yeah, and I was watching. I keep shouting this movie out, but it's called the Woman King. It's on Netflix. It was awesome.

Speaker 2

So good, so good, very inspiring. And they're training the Agoge, which is these women soldiers that are trying to fight against slavery, and the training is brutal. It's brutal the things they put them through, and I remember thinking to myself like as an entrepreneur that's similar to what it is. You basically just you just go get bludgeoned for like a long time and and eventually you just have thicker skin. And I was talking to christina yesterday. She had our youngest listener ever.

Speaker 2

His name is jojo, jojo, uh. Shout out to jojo, jojo's starting a youtube channel. Nice, yeah, yeah. And uh, I guess one of his friends at school has a youtube channel and got mad because he thinks he's going to take his subscribers. He might, he just might. So, christina, if you're listening, I hope, I hope you uh don't mind that I'm talking about jojo's youtube channel, but I've seen some of his graphic design stuff behind the scenes. He, he gets a hold of his mom's computer. So christina is the coo of next level university and her son, jojo, does some work behind the scenes. So but, anyways, he's gonna have a youtube channel. Shout out to jojo, I love it.

Speaker 2

But the point is is christina was like well, how do I, how do I lead him to help him understand that when you shine, you're gonna going to get lashed out at and people are going to be mad at you and it's going to be this weird thing Like how do I help him understand that him having a YouTube channel will create haters but it'll also create people that are inspired and that kind of thing? But I digress and I think it all comes back to again the PMES the physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. And this is the question that I would ask myself, kev, we haven't checked in on this in a minute Personal development set point. We used to talk about this all the time, kev. In particular, you had probably 100 episodes where you would mention this quite a bit, and I don't know if it's because we were just going through it back then or what.

Speaker 1

Probably. I used to say a lot of stuff that remember. One of my favorite things ever was if you woke up tomorrow with only the things you said you were grateful for today, what would you have? I haven't said that in a long time. You can only have so many catchphrases. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2

You gotta bring some of them back.

Speaker 1

What was Buzz?

Speaker 2

Lightyear's Hold on Reach for the sky.

Speaker 1

No, that was Woody. That was Woody, yeah, hold on To infinity and beyond. Yeah, you can't have much more than that. You can't have five of those, you only got one.

Speaker 2

No, you can have a lot of them.

Speaker 1

I think. Well, I think so too, but I can't remember I used to go to.

Speaker 2

Storm man, yeah, we don't quote as much as we used to, but anyways. So the personal development set point, but anyways. But anyways, it's like the thermostat in your house. So right now it's super hot right now because it's been cold and then hot and then cold and the whole thing. But our thermostat's at 72, I think.

Speaker 2

And the personal development set point is similar to that where physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. So if you have a, we used to call it the PMES system, we used to call it the drive to 40, zero to 10. How physically well-developed are you? Zero to 10. How mentally well-developed are you? Zero to 10. How emotionally well-developed are you? And then zero to 10,. How spiritually well-developed are you?

Speaker 2

And everyone has a code. So my code was mental first, kevin's was emotional first, so he had to amplify his M, I had to amplify my E. We both grow, drive to 5. Drive to 40. So the thermostat stays at 72. So if the heat kicks on outside kicks on, if the heat, if it gets hot outside, it brings on the air conditioner and brings it back down to 72. So when you succeed beyond I was talking to Jerrianne earlier and she has someone that she's working with, uh daycare situation where we had a breakthrough of oh, one of the things that happened is this person started this business during covid. I'll keep this very, very high level and they've they've succeeded beyond their personal development set point, and so if you've ever heard of self-sabotage, that's what I think people really mean is it's like people that win the lottery you, you, you didn't create the wealth yourself with wealth habits yeah so then a lot of people that win the lottery end up broke after two to five years or whatever, and I don't know the statistics on that.

Speaker 2

But the point is is it's very different. If I, if I develop strong financial habits for 20 years and then become wealthy, I would much bet more bet on that person keeping the money than someone who won the lottery on a whim. Yeah, and the reason why is obviously this personal development set point. So if I were to put 40 pounds on kev with a magic wand in you know, six to, at this point, maybe two years I'm kidding in, in two years you would look, you'd, you'd be back to this set point. And the reason why is because you know how to do it. You've developed the skills necessary to learn how to lose weight consistently. Is that fair?

Speaker 2

yeah yeah, okay, and that's. You're doing a jiu-jitsu competition. You're gonna have to weigh in, so you have to lose however many pounds, ten, how many pounds, ten, ten. Okay, so Kev knows how to do it. He's done it before. He can do it again, assuming he wants to. Bad enough, and that's the kicker. But his personal development set point in the physical arena, of physical fitness, is high. Therefore, he'll never let himself go below a certain level. You'll never get.

Speaker 2

I'm not going to wake up one day and have you have 40% body fat, and the reason why is you just know how to keep it lower than that and it's not in alignment. It doesn't vibrate at the same frequency as your development in that area, just like for me. What's a good example of this? Okay, you're not going to see me two, three, five, 10 years from now not tracking anything, not track, no habits, no tracking, no, no finances, because that's not in alignment with my development in that area.

Speaker 2

Human beings like to get better. They do, whether they're conscious of it or not, and my question for everyone, including myself, is what is your personal development set point? Because if it gets really cold out, your heater kicks on the heaters, your thermostat kicks on the heaters and it gets 72. If it gets warm out, it kicks on the air conditioning, brings it back to 72. That's what our personal development set point is doing.

Speaker 2

So all your relationships, all your career opportunities, all your finances, your home, your whole life kind of comes down to, and the quote underneath all this is you don't achieve your goals, you grow into them. Like if I were to take away everything from Kev take away his podcast, take away Next Level University, take me away, take away his finances, take away all his money, take away everything except the clothes on his back and throw him in the middle of some city. He would find a way to be successful, and the reason why is he knows how to do it. Now. He's not going to be as successful as he is right now, but you're not going to be going all the way back.

Speaker 1

It's a good thing. I wore a good shirt today.

Speaker 2

Yeah, exactly, and the reason why you're not going to go all the way back is because now you've learned, you've grown, you have skills you never had before, you have awareness you never had before, you have self-awareness, you understand how the economy works, you understand how finance works. You're never going to fully go back and eventually your life's going to get back to this point.

Speaker 2

Given enough time. Go ahead time, good, sorry. Given enough time, your life will come back to this point. You do, you grow into your goals. It's I used to think. I used to think you have to do more to go achieve your goals.

Speaker 2

You do, but you grow into them too well when you do more, if you do more of the right things, you become more of the right thing yeah, and then and then everything and everyone reacts to you differently, and now you have new opportunities that other people don't have, and that's one of the things that you mentioned too, of like, we got escorted to david melzer I and we got pictures taken. The truth is, kevin I never used to say this because I was scared to say it. I was a fitness model and you were also in great shape. Of course, they want to take pictures with us. That's never happened.

Speaker 2

As arrogant as that might come off, at the end of the day it does make sense.

Speaker 1

Well, that was very new to me. We looked like men of value.

Speaker 2

That's what it comes down to.

Speaker 1

We looked like men of value. That's fair. What was I going to say?

Speaker 2

I had what were you saying Personal development set point.

Speaker 1

I also just realized I have one minute. Oh my goodness, all right, we got to go. Yeah, we'll do. Maybe we'll do a part two on this, but I'll come up with what I was actually going to say. Okay, group coaching starts next Tuesday with the promo code NLU listener. It'll take 30% off. It ends up being $96 and.60 per month and you get four calls per month two with Alan and I and two with the amazing Amy. Link will be in the show notes tomorrow for episode number 1,671, the Difference Between a Habit and a Task. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Keep growing into your goals Thanks.

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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